The more I get to know you, the more respect I have for you Ayesha! Thank you for being a lovely human being. I hope this opens up a way for us to have more civil discussions despite our differences. ♥️
Sidra, you don't realise what a big service you're doing to your own religion too by showing to the world that not all muslims forget basic humanity for sake of their religion. I myself am in awe that a niqabi Muslim woman is capable of such courage and empathy. And I'm ashamed to ever had such stereotypes in my head. You're a wonderful person and i hope this loveliness rubs off on all your fans and followers. Your sweetness makes this world a better place. God bless you ♥️
You are amazing. I have never seen an Islamic apologist ever say sorry to an ex muslim. Never. Ive been watching ex muslims for at least 10 years. Wooooooooow!!!!!! Im a Christian but mightliy impressed by your reflection and humility. Yes we dont agree on theology but your recognition of IN and AA made me almost cry.......almost. looool GOD BLESS YOU NINJA MOMMY
As an agnostic that doesn’t agree with Islam as a whole, I want to say that Sidra has such a beautiful heart and has so much grace. I wish her well and hope she continues to be a great person❤️
She’s a really interesting person. A few months ago a lot of people criticized one of the things she said, and she actually apologized to everyone. I really respect that she’s open to rethinking what she believes.
Amazing and humbling, she acknowledges it's not the same for everyone. Ninja Mommy made it clear following Islam she never experienced oppression of any kind, her world is perfect and this explains a lot. Geniunely I am very happy for her. Everyone has a right to free and happy life.
im an ex Muslim who never really experienced oppression too even tho I'm from a Muslim country, and thanks to my very understanding parents but still i feel like Islam messed up with my personal thinking and just the way I viewed life and non muslims.. I hope she sees the truth because you don't have to experience oppression to feel that way, the religion itself makes women oppress themselves and believe they're not any good
@@princess_selfimprovement Thank you 🙂. The choices we make are limited by if we get a broad education and interactive experiences we have with others who are different. NM is a product of both being narrow in her world.
@The Scary Heathen 😈 i doubt it's taquiya, if it was many dawah people would've done it as well ,i think she was being genuine and obviously i§lām's teachings are still corrupt but on this particular topic i appreciate her efforts
@The Scary Heathen 😈 yeah in the video she acknowledged that she still has to learn about Sharia and Islam, I think if she does her due diligence and keeps herself open, she will find her truth, we should encourage that I feel.
@@itstyler0908 regardless brave of her to put her ego aside and acknowledge her bad in an open forum, I never thought I would be saying this about ninja mommy, just goes to show that people can change, learn and grow, like we( ex muslims) did once.
@The Scary Heathen 😈 while that is true i just doubt it, seems like too much trouble to go through for the results to be friendships with the "infidels " as they call us
In my 6 years of being a supporter of ex-Muslims, I've never heard anything like this. Really great to finally have progress being made between Muslims and ex-Muslims.
I guess that's what anyone has ever wanted from muslims.. Empathy and tolerance for ideas different from theirs. I hope she becomes a torch bearer for other muslims and her wonderfullness rubs off on them
I may be overtly optimistic but i feel that even though she'll still promote Islam, she'll do so cautiously as she's out of her delusion now. I hope she spreads tolerance of differing ideas and how not to take every word of Quran so literally as to overlook all of basic humanity. Which is exactly what muslims needs. But i just hope she doesn't face backlash from the fanatics for it
@To Think Truth Oh God!! Such horrible stuff!!🙈🙈🙈🙈 Well you know there is some amount of stupid stuff in every religion (it's never this violent though 🙈🙈), all you have to do is ignore it and focus on the good stuff. But yeah I'm not sure if she's up for that. I think she once admitted that she believes homosexuals should be killed. I don't know what to believe. You might be right lol. Only time will tell if her content will change or not
*Culture and ex muslims. They haven't betrayed a Muslim state to be apostates rather they have left Islam in a non harmful way(not this girl.) This girl would probably be tried for blasphemy lol as she would 100 years ago in the West
Lol shes not much of a muslim if she said that. Shes more of a people pleaser and probably tries to juggle pleasing her family's religion and pleasing other types of people
@@samuelrigaud6595 lol, not every Muslim is doing Taqiya all the time. I fully agree with you that many apologists repeat lies that have been told to them by their scholars or whatnot but Ninja Mommy does sound genuine in this video on a personal level. It’s good to have some benefit of doubt
Her apologies won't change the reality, that 99% of Muslim gave death threats to Ayesha, neither it is going to decrease 100+ terrorist organizations or mujahideens.
Appreciate your honesty, apology and humility Ayesha. Hope this is the beginning in a new direction of peaceful coexistence. She has a huge following. Our communites both ex muslim and Muslims desperately need this. This ridiculous culture of debunking s.o. their views and the way one interprets and practices Islam, is endemic in Muslim culture, especially leaving faith the dehumanising language, needs to stop. It took courage to make that call Sidra, and appreciated. Seeing the humanity in one other can only be beneficial.
They are all so young and yet a way more matured way of handling a situation . They publicly got at each other and publicly apologising on the same platform. Lovely way of building bridges . The only thing missing was coffee . Three friends having a matured conversation over coffee. May God give the same maturity to all of us . GOD BLESS YOU !
Hopefully, the lady won't receive threats. I disagree with her content but I'd never wish harm on her because it's in everyone's interest to keep the discussion healthy as honourable opponents. This is a refreshing moment indeed.
I hope every Muslim who comes to this realization, comes out and speaks about it to normalize things Muslims and ExMuslims. After all ExMuslims are people who have Muslim brothers, sisters, parents, relatives and some probably husbands and wives. Leaving Islam and no longer believing in Allah does not mean we are against Muslims as a group of people. Some of us even value and cherish some of Islamic values and traditions without looking at it as commands by some god. At the end of the day we look at Muslims as our own people, we want them to live a good life, appreciate our diversity and distance themselves from hatred and violence. It is ok to disagree about every single issue as long as we learn how to live in the same space without vilifying each other and trying to silence the other side.
Actually it's pretty hearthening that you'd say so because it feels like a bit of a proof that Islam isn't this inherenty invasive force that is only out to sbjegate all people. Because you can still like, you have a human apprishiation for people who don't agree belive and don't make the value or goodness of a person out to be entirly in muslim or not muslim.
Ninja mommy is legit a good person, she don't believe the bad side of Islam, and doesn't know that bad part is true. I don't think she is being dishonest, she might be just Ignorant
Iranian woman here. I never really agreed with a lot of beliefs ninja mommy generally has, but the video she made for iran made me cry. She is one of the few muslims i truly love and respect.
Just hearing Sidra talk normally, and not in the context of an edited tiktok video, her just being herself and talking about her background in a western country, made me respect her a lot. It's great to see that she was willing to hear, empathize and trying to understand the other perspective and even just her admitting that she has a lot to learn. The whole thing felt like it was honest and she was speaking from the heart. Major appreciation to Sidra. I think, Sidra is how we all were at one point. She believes that Islam is correct, and right now I feel like she's in the phase that she thinks "no Islam can't be wrong." However, her just straight up saying that "I'm sorry for my religion" makes me think, she's on a journey that we all went through. Regardless of her religious affiliations, I think we can all appreciate that she is not a person who advocates all the inhumane things in the dogma, much less like a certain "and we are proud of that" apologist. I do think that the fundamental dogma needs to be reformed, and if her interpretation is helping people follow a much less violent, more friendly religion then I'm all for it. This is why I now support Sidra and Ghamdi. Although, I do think she needs to look in some of her own personal biases like homophobia.
@@anjel130 homophobia is prejudice against gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender people If someone chooses not be part of a certain community, they still respect people from that community Just one question, are you part of a muslim community?
What a class of ninja mommy.... now she's like a real ninja in terms of character.... Also nool n Aladdin... great hosts... matured, emotional, fact that you guys could make a muslim apologist understand your side is a testimony to your good intentions in doing this... wishing you more n more success 🙂
I am so proud of Sidra for listening, reflecting, coming around to a new perspective, and apologizing not only to both of you directly but publicly! This was a wonderful video and thank you for uploading for those of us outside both communities who had missed these events as they unfolded! It's very valuable to listen to this!
some people like sidra that have a brain. respect people for being people. simple as it is. because how long can u stay mad at people for believing how long can you stay mad at people for not believing? i mean cmon now, fuck the labels and lets talk human to human instead of arguing about dumbass religions. i have to say that sidra has my respect she has a big platform.... hope she stays safe and doesn't get backlash for having a convo
I'm an ex-Muslim but I wanna make something clear. Just because someone is a Muslim doesn't mean they support EVERYTHING in Islam. More like, they support the majority of it which is why they choose to follow it in the first place. Just because someone is a Muslim doesn't necessarily mean they are closed-minded and support the shitty things in their religion. (I'm not saying ALL muslims are good or bad, depends on the person) You can't blame Muslims for the rules of their religion, rather you can criticize the religion itself. People who choose to react immaturely to the criticism towards their religion just show their true colors. Most importantly, we should not fight about it, rather talk things out and try to understand people's perspectives and choices and understand where they're coming from, and respect it. There's a mature way to deal with things. Everyone should always look from an "outsider" perspective at things. People automatically assume "ex-Muslim" means bashing and just hating Muslims in general. I wish more people would see this video.
Many of the peaceful ones are blissfully unware of the intolerant, violent and misogynistic parts of their beliefs. But you seem to acknowledge that there ARE such bad aspects of that religion.
@@whateverbabei saw some comments under this very video of muslims still cslining that their religion is perfect and mocking others for saying otherwise
I still wanna know if she disagrees with the Koran on death penalty for apostates, gays or people who commit adultery. But since it's the religion of peace, I think I know her stands on it.
@@Mysterychannel12 it's all subjective and about interpretation tbh... So it's upto ppl how and what they believe. So yes you pick and choose what 'God says'
Now that I know that Njnja Mommy is honest, I don't hate her guts anymore😂 she's actually a nice person. As an ex-Muslim,I hope that she will research more about Islam to know the harsh reality.. and I generally wish her the best 🤍
Idk what do you mean by harsh reality, im not at your place but I am a Muslim woman, a Malaysian from a muslim country which also follow sharia law, rule and regulation, i dont feel anything harsh about my religion but accepting and peace.
@@Clover-wg5xx Here's something to think about. We like talking about Nazis because it's comfortable, right? We know about the Holocaust, yea? What if i told you that Muslims oppressed Jews for centuries? What if I told you that the Holocaust pales in comparison to what muslins did in india? Now, tell me something. If you went to Nazi Germany, after they had won the war (alternative history, I know), and you asked them about their doctrines, what do you think they would tell you? I wager it would be one of these things: "We are only protecting and furthering our nation", "We wanted peace but we were pushed", "They (the jews) asked for it". Better yet, let's say Nazism spread to the world and you went to, say, Argentina, and you asked about Nazism. What would they tell you? Maybe something like "What are you talking about? We just want peace". Same exact rhetoric as yours. Same. Exact. Rhetoric. Just because YOU didn't participate in the atrocitices does not.mean they didn't happen. And they happened because of islam. The quran decrees genocide and rape and slavery (and rape of slaves and war prisoners... muslims are even told to make sure to impregnate their prisoners of war too). I get that you see nothing wrong in your personal practice, but you are wrong when you say islam wants peace. You wouldn't know peace if you weren't muslim. Even as a muslim.woman, your rights are diminished to 1. That is the point. That is all.
How about malaysian ex muslims who are affected by that sharia and are arrested? Or even those who do not fast and are persected too. Islam has engrained itself in malay culture that practices are synonymous or interchangeable. Malay ex muslims still face alienation because of this
Omg I'd never thought a Muslim apologist would ever consider us as human beings... Thank you ninja mommy I have more respect for you, eventhough I may not believe in what you believe in, I hope the best for you
Apologist is to believe in something controversial. All religions have millions/billions people who disagree also millions/billions that agree. Overall, it isn't a topic that is overwhelmingly disfavored. As far as your feeling of not being considered a human being, I'm guessing this is due to the Muslims you have around you.
Did it? I mean, she clearly recognises what’s happening and her reality is nowhere close to the realities of at least a 100 million people who are ex-muslims and people who live with muslims, yet she somehow thinks islam is beautiful? Nah, bruh.
@@meetankush I feel like shes in the apostating phase, cuz she literally apologised for her religion at one point. and honestly? if we want a middle ground, I'd much favour this. I appreciate the growth and people *do* change. and seeing her not talk in the happy-goey voice for once is definitely a good step, feels more genuine.
@@meetankush Islam is the only thing they know from where to find fulfilment/meaning and leaving it leaves a pretty big void in their lives. It’s not fair to expect people to always have a big picture, be completely mature and analytical especially at a young age.
I had never imagined, such a fruitful conversation between these 2 groups. So amazing to listen to. Im almost a bit emotional and im not even ex muslim/muslim 😂 ❤
I hope this leads to her total awakening. Some Muslims are good people, but referring to someone like Muhammad as their best example forces them to live in a completely different reality and to justify the atrocities against innocent human life.
@Constantine Mithras I see Muslims like that term mangod. The name Jacob means the one who wrestled with God. Ask your imams why they still refer to Jacob by that name if they don't believe that God can manifest in the flesh as pertaining to the story.
@Constantine Mithras Muslims worship Muhammad, who according to Islam's own sources married a six year old girl and his own adopted son's wife, slottered a peaceful Jewish tribe in Medina and raiped his female captives even if they were already married.
This was beautiful to listen to. I still have reverence for portions of Islam and it's history because it's my history but I can't follow the path anymore. Seeing Muslims and ex-Muslims constructively talking to each other is wonderful and provides hope that such dialogues can take place.
Listening to Sidra, here we have an example of humility, honesty and emotional intelligence; and given how toxic these matters can become, firstly an example of bravery.
"I am sorry about the rules of my religion and I know that doesn't show through my actions cause I choose to follow it" "You should speak your truth and you should not be silent" Damn ninja! I am a anti-theist but even I can find this apology respectful she realized the flaws in it which I admire a lot
It’s great to see this discussion. A great example for so many people having difficulty communicating. Just start with a respectful conversation and see what happens.
Congratulations to @Ninja Mommy for her courage, good heart and positive spirit ! Y’all open up new channels and paths for dialogue and tolerance. The three of you show how our humanity reaches out far beyond ideologies or differences,
Glad you guys got your apologies done, seriously religion is gonna be different for everyone and having open discussions about religious beliefs is helpful for many.
I didn’t know about the recent disagreements but am pleased that both parties have reached common ground and have respect for each other. Dialogue is the key. Problems arise when you stop or haven’t started talking like responsible human beings.
This is a big step forward. EVERYONE learned a valuable lesson in empathy and understanding others’ POV. Massive respect to Ninja Mommy for making the move. I hope this is how all dialogues continue between muslims and non muslims.
Ninja Mommy....you have my respect...something which the other apologists should learn from, you were honest and humble. Kudos to Noodle and Aladdin too....you guys have paved a way where others can learn from....a discussion style where we humans should be taking
She was always a good human just that she is kinda stupid and she thinks that world is very nice. That's the only problem and she even explained the same in video.
I've had several discussions with Sidra behind the scenes since this livestream and I genuinely believe she is a kind, compassionate person. I'll admit, I was slightly apprehensive myself in the beginning. But the more I speak to her, the more I realise how wrong my initial perception of her was
A religious person, no matter the faith, admitting that they had it easy and that not everyone else may have, is huge. I can respect this admittance. This is one of the things atheists see that religious people don’t see. I grew up in Muslim countries and was floored at the disregard religious people showed their fellow human beings. Same in other religious countries. It’s one of the biggest turnoffs about religion. We are fellow human beings first and foremost.
hey, my name is Hamid, im a 20 years old guy. I live in Iran I'm a muslim and I have a non-muslim friend who i really love him i think muslims and non-muslims can coexist together in a group and be the best friends, as long as they understand each other and both of them be reasonable people thanks for the video
@@Smithpolly one of the important points that I learned in high school about the Islam was that "in many cases" you can't simply predict that a person will go to the hell or not. it depends on lot's of situations and only God can decide about that person. e.g. I grew up in a muslim family, but he didn't
@@Smithpolly i said I can't judge whether someone will go to the hell or not - it depends. i chose him as a friend not because of his religion, but because he was a reasonable person also we have lot's of common interest,
Coming back to this, I can't believe I was so lucky to witness this live during the livestream- I was literally bawling my eyes out in awe at this. This is like a defining moment in history. One of the most wonderful ones to be honest. I wish it continued farther but nothing seems to have changed between the muslim and ex muslim communities yet...
My respect for Sidra has skyrocketed. Please respect her. I hope she will soon be freed from Islam when she realises the dark side of Islam. Wish her all the best!
I was not aware of Ninja Mommy until a few weeks ago, hearing references to her on Apostate Prophet's channel. I have never heard her speak before. It is great to hear this conversation today. It sounds as if she is opening her eyes to more of what is really happening in the world. Now I would ask her to think about this. In yesterday's BBC there was a news item about an Islamic State (Sunni) suicide bomber who killed himself and at least 50 Shi'ites who were attending Friday prayers in a mosque in Kunduz, Afghanistan. This is not a rare, unusual event. My question: Can Islam be at peace with the world while it is at war with itself? Ninja Mommy is reaching out to those on the "other side" and seeking reconciliation. I commend her highly for this. She is a positive example for others to emulate. I hope others will.
I'm so happy to see the things you've done! All our support is with you! I want to tell something; in reddit exmuslim community everyone was like really agaist her and i feel so sad to see people judge so easily, i really realised that "whichever community you are in it doesn't matter, there is always people that doesn't respect others". I really like her as an exmuslim, wishing the bests for you my friends, keep following your belives!
I don't consider her a snake at all !! She is far better than a lot of muslim apologist like Pikachu etc . But what strikes me are her reasons . According to her " she wasn't aware that ex Muslims are good people who choose to not follow islam " . She thinks that the world revolves around her because she thought that since she has had it all easy everyone else has it too !! Wtf . I'm not convinced here !!
I literally watch aisha sidra and mubina all three together nd i always found it that u guys can match it ..i cant describe in words how happy i am to see a genuine convo bw u three..💓 respect to all three...
I'm watching this video 2 years after it has been posted, and I 'm speachless about the falsehood and hypocrisy of this conversation. I'm very disappointed about the two exes, and disgusted by the attempt of manipulation of Ninja Mommy. A really sad show.
Thank you ninja mommy for acknowledging ninja mommy your mistakes. Thank you for understanding that you have came across the wrong way you were so open and honest in the video. Criticising religious ideologies is crucial for societal progression nobody should be attacked, killed for leaving Islam or get death threats. I'm not anti Muslim I just focus on criticising the Claims made by the ideology. I do not hate Muslims I just don't agree with Islamic philosophy.
I think this one of my favorite videos on the internet ❤ I am so glad you guys had this discussion 😀 Definetly wasn't expecting this!!! Sending you guys lots of love ❤ Good wishes and lots of kisses😘❤
As an nonreligious person, I have to say this is much better than someone like Apostate Prophet (or those Dawa Muslims who just want to convert you or attack you rather than simply just listen to ex-muslims and their truth). Glad I discovered your channel.
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The more I get to know you, the more respect I have for you Ayesha! Thank you for being a lovely human being. I hope this opens up a way for us to have more civil discussions despite our differences. ♥️
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awwwww you guys are so sweet
W for Ninja
Sidra, you don't realise what a big service you're doing to your own religion too by showing to the world that not all muslims forget basic humanity for sake of their religion. I myself am in awe that a niqabi Muslim woman is capable of such courage and empathy. And I'm ashamed to ever had such stereotypes in my head. You're a wonderful person and i hope this loveliness rubs off on all your fans and followers. Your sweetness makes this world a better place. God bless you ♥️
You are amazing. I have never seen an Islamic apologist ever say sorry to an ex muslim. Never. Ive been watching ex muslims for at least 10 years. Wooooooooow!!!!!! Im a Christian but mightliy impressed by your reflection and humility. Yes we dont agree on theology but your recognition of IN and AA made me almost cry.......almost. looool GOD BLESS YOU NINJA MOMMY
I've never experienced a conversation like this between any Muslim and Ex-Muslim. A win for humanity.
Asrar koa ap pakistan se ho
@@huzaifa2369 Yes.
Will this happen in muslim country
As an agnostic that doesn’t agree with Islam as a whole, I want to say that Sidra has such a beautiful heart and has so much grace. I wish her well and hope she continues to be a great person❤️
@@samuelrigaud6595 Huh?
She's a deceiver just like her prophet. Had she not gone public, what she'd have said would be different.
@@nightprowler6336 Shes not
@@nightprowler6336 seems more like you are
She’s a really interesting person. A few months ago a lot of people criticized one of the things she said, and she actually apologized to everyone. I really respect that she’s open to rethinking what she believes.
I respect the fact that ninja mommy came to apologize and express her views 🥰
Same
Yep same
She's just doing taquiyya
@@honda-akari 🤣
Amazing and humbling, she acknowledges it's not the same for everyone. Ninja Mommy made it clear following Islam she never experienced oppression of any kind, her world is perfect and this explains a lot. Geniunely I am very happy for her. Everyone has a right to free and happy life.
im an ex Muslim who never really experienced oppression too even tho I'm from a Muslim country, and thanks to my very understanding parents but still i feel like Islam messed up with my personal thinking and just the way I viewed life and non muslims.. I hope she sees the truth because you don't have to experience oppression to feel that way, the religion itself makes women oppress themselves and believe they're not any good
I’m happy for her and also I’m happy for you, for choosing to not be Muslim
@@princess_selfimprovement Thank you 🙂. The choices we make are limited by if we get a broad education and interactive experiences we have with others who are different. NM is a product of both being narrow in her world.
@@Loveskelly-hr lies, that won't even be possible in a democracy and that's the ground reality of this world that has a curse called usslam
@@imnik2118 how am i lying? You don't me and I'm not saying everyone had an easy relationship with Islam as I did
I just hope muslim's don't harass Sidra for this, which I feel is inevitable
@The Scary Heathen 😈 i doubt it's taquiya, if it was many dawah people would've done it as well ,i think she was being genuine and obviously i§lām's teachings are still corrupt but on this particular topic i appreciate her efforts
@The Scary Heathen 😈 yeah in the video she acknowledged that she still has to learn about Sharia and Islam, I think if she does her due diligence and keeps herself open, she will find her truth, we should encourage that I feel.
@@itstyler0908 regardless brave of her to put her ego aside and acknowledge her bad in an open forum, I never thought I would be saying this about ninja mommy, just goes to show that people can change, learn and grow, like we( ex muslims) did once.
@The Scary Heathen 😈 while that is true i just doubt it, seems like too much trouble to go through for the results to be friendships with the "infidels " as they call us
@The Scary Heathen 😈 yeah agreed. But from her whole vibe I didn't feel like it was a show, I have been wrong before 😭
In my 6 years of being a supporter of ex-Muslims, I've never heard anything like this. Really great to finally have progress being made between Muslims and ex-Muslims.
I guess that's what anyone has ever wanted from muslims.. Empathy and tolerance for ideas different from theirs. I hope she becomes a torch bearer for other muslims and her wonderfullness rubs off on them
I may be overtly optimistic but i feel that even though she'll still promote Islam, she'll do so cautiously as she's out of her delusion now. I hope she spreads tolerance of differing ideas and how not to take every word of Quran so literally as to overlook all of basic humanity. Which is exactly what muslims needs. But i just hope she doesn't face backlash from the fanatics for it
@To Think Truth Oh God!! Such horrible stuff!!🙈🙈🙈🙈 Well you know there is some amount of stupid stuff in every religion (it's never this violent though 🙈🙈), all you have to do is ignore it and focus on the good stuff. But yeah I'm not sure if she's up for that. I think she once admitted that she believes homosexuals should be killed. I don't know what to believe. You might be right lol. Only time will tell if her content will change or not
*Culture and ex muslims. They haven't betrayed a Muslim state to be apostates rather they have left Islam in a non harmful way(not this girl.) This girl would probably be tried for blasphemy lol as she would 100 years ago in the West
@To Think Truth go away with taqqiya that's been debunked 100 times yet you can't see it😂😂
"I'm sorry for the rules of my religion"
I never expected to find a muslim saying that, this is so amazing and brave to be honest.
If she has to apologize for the rules of their religion, they should question whether to stay in said faith.
Yeah
@@MeMe-pj8ve as a Muslim I agree
Lol shes not much of a muslim if she said that. Shes more of a people pleaser and probably tries to juggle pleasing her family's religion and pleasing other types of people
Time stamp???
"The supreme art of war is to subdue your enemy without fighting." -Sun Tzu
I loved when Ninja Mommy apologised for the rules of her religion, she really touched my heart. She has A LOT of guts 😊
@@samuelrigaud6595 haha yeaa
@@samuelrigaud6595 lol, not every Muslim is doing Taqiya all the time. I fully agree with you that many apologists repeat lies that have been told to them by their scholars or whatnot but Ninja Mommy does sound genuine in this video on a personal level. It’s good to have some benefit of doubt
@@samuelrigaud6595 pretty sure it is spelt taqqiya
Timing pls
Her apologies won't change the reality, that 99% of Muslim gave death threats to Ayesha, neither it is going to decrease 100+ terrorist organizations or mujahideens.
Appreciate your honesty, apology and humility Ayesha. Hope this is the beginning in a new direction of peaceful coexistence. She has a huge following. Our communites both ex muslim and Muslims desperately need this.
This ridiculous culture of debunking s.o. their views and the way one interprets and practices Islam, is endemic in Muslim culture, especially leaving faith the dehumanising language, needs to stop.
It took courage to make that call Sidra, and appreciated. Seeing the humanity in one other can only be beneficial.
They are all so young and yet a way more matured way of handling a situation . They publicly got at each other and publicly apologising on the same platform. Lovely way of building bridges . The only thing missing was coffee . Three friends having a matured conversation over coffee. May God give the same maturity to all of us . GOD BLESS YOU !
This is such a progressive conversation, that is extremely important. Thank you to all of you 💞
Seen this 3 times now, on the original chat, on friendly exmuslim, and now. I hope that there will be much more to come out of this.
Hopefully, the lady won't receive threats.
I disagree with her content but I'd never wish harm on her because it's in everyone's interest to keep the discussion healthy as honourable opponents.
This is a refreshing moment indeed.
Her name is Sidra. You can say her name.
@@AWlpsSHOW36 not allowed in islam
@@imnik2118
Nice try.
Actually, it would not be bad if she does (online), it would make her realize something important.
@@theastronomer5800 She get's hate all the time.
After her twins where born a hater commented something along the lines of 'more terrorists'.
This is great. I can't believe how apologetic she was. This was a really great chat I'm happy you're all getting along now. That's growth.
I hope every Muslim who comes to this realization, comes out and speaks about it to normalize things Muslims and ExMuslims. After all ExMuslims are people who have Muslim brothers, sisters, parents, relatives and some probably husbands and wives. Leaving Islam and no longer believing in Allah does not mean we are against Muslims as a group of people. Some of us even value and cherish some of Islamic values and traditions without looking at it as commands by some god. At the end of the day we look at Muslims as our own people, we want them to live a good life, appreciate our diversity and distance themselves from hatred and violence. It is ok to disagree about every single issue as long as we learn how to live in the same space without vilifying each other and trying to silence the other side.
Actually it's pretty hearthening that you'd say so because it feels like a bit of a proof that Islam isn't this inherenty invasive force that is only out to sbjegate all people. Because you can still like, you have a human apprishiation for people who don't agree belive and don't make the value or goodness of a person out to be entirly in muslim or not muslim.
Ninja mommy is legit a good person, she don't believe the bad side of Islam, and doesn't know that bad part is true. I don't think she is being dishonest, she might be just Ignorant
I think so too. Many of them are blissfully unware of the intolerant, violent and misogynistic parts of their beliefs.
Most of the Muslims are like this .
Cherry picking
@@timmay676i think that’s christians because if the quran says something we follow
Name one bad side about Islam. I’m waiting
@@sieg6635 she can’t because there is no bad in islam, let them bark.
So happy to see the harmony between muslims and ex-muslims 🙌🏻
@@samuelrigaud6595 saudi arabia is insane
Iranian woman here.
I never really agreed with a lot of beliefs ninja mommy generally has, but the video she made for iran made me cry. She is one of the few muslims i truly love and respect.
Just hearing Sidra talk normally, and not in the context of an edited tiktok video, her just being herself and talking about her background in a western country, made me respect her a lot.
It's great to see that she was willing to hear, empathize and trying to understand the other perspective and even just her admitting that she has a lot to learn.
The whole thing felt like it was honest and she was speaking from the heart. Major appreciation to Sidra.
I think, Sidra is how we all were at one point. She believes that Islam is correct, and right now I feel like she's in the phase that she thinks "no Islam can't be wrong." However, her just straight up saying that "I'm sorry for my religion" makes me think, she's on a journey that we all went through.
Regardless of her religious affiliations, I think we can all appreciate that she is not a person who advocates all the inhumane things in the dogma, much less like a certain "and we are proud of that" apologist.
I do think that the fundamental dogma needs to be reformed, and if her interpretation is helping people follow a much less violent, more friendly religion then I'm all for it. This is why I now support Sidra and Ghamdi. Although, I do think she needs to look in some of her own personal biases like homophobia.
Just because she does not support lgbtq doesn’t mean she’s homophobic
@@libz1888 Umm no hun that's literally what it means.
@@anjel130 homophobia is prejudice against gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender people
If someone chooses not be part of a certain community, they still respect people from that community
Just one question, are you part of a muslim community?
Being part of the Ex-Muslim community, I am gobsmacked by this. I would never have expected to see this. Thank you.
Seems like you are easily manipulated by taquiyya
@@honda-akari Seems like you're easily manipulated by a 7th century book
What a class of ninja mommy.... now she's like a real ninja in terms of character....
Also nool n Aladdin... great hosts... matured, emotional, fact that you guys could make a muslim apologist understand your side is a testimony to your good intentions in doing this... wishing you more n more success 🙂
Ninja were not muslims, but they were also sneaky and a nuisance to people.
Very nice conversation, it was very emotional and I also wish if I can give a hug to every ex Muslim because I am also an ex Muslim from Pakistan.
I am so proud of Sidra for listening, reflecting, coming around to a new perspective, and apologizing not only to both of you directly but publicly!
This was a wonderful video and thank you for uploading for those of us outside both communities who had missed these events as they unfolded! It's very valuable to listen to this!
Wait what?, this is something I never expected in my wildest dreams, I am absolutely shocked that she even chose to speak you guys...
I'm still in shock too
some people like sidra that have a brain. respect people for being people. simple as it is. because how long can u stay mad at people for believing how long can you stay mad at people for not believing? i mean cmon now, fuck the labels and lets talk human to human instead of arguing about dumbass religions. i have to say that sidra has my respect she has a big platform.... hope she stays safe and doesn't get backlash for having a convo
@@oxynvm5216 she is just good at taquiyya apparently
@@honda-akari I see you in the comments spreading hate against Muslims all the time. Reported. No sides is not doing Taqiyya.
@@honda-akari ur seriously repeating the same comment in each conversation....
I hope Sidra remains safe and can take this time to reflect.
Ali Dawah really made two accounts to dislike this video lol
This video was absolutely amazing, I'm so proud of both of you for the way you handled this.
I'm an ex-Muslim but I wanna make something clear. Just because someone is a Muslim doesn't mean they support EVERYTHING in Islam. More like, they support the majority of it which is why they choose to follow it in the first place. Just because someone is a Muslim doesn't necessarily mean they are closed-minded and support the shitty things in their religion. (I'm not saying ALL muslims are good or bad, depends on the person)
You can't blame Muslims for the rules of their religion, rather you can criticize the religion itself. People who choose to react immaturely to the criticism towards their religion just show their true colors. Most importantly, we should not fight about it, rather talk things out and try to understand people's perspectives and choices and understand where they're coming from, and respect it.
There's a mature way to deal with things. Everyone should always look from an "outsider" perspective at things. People automatically assume "ex-Muslim" means bashing and just hating Muslims in general. I wish more people would see this video.
Many of the peaceful ones are blissfully unware of the intolerant, violent and misogynistic parts of their beliefs. But you seem to acknowledge that there ARE such bad aspects of that religion.
Well theres no talking nicely with real muslims that obey Mohammed,They killing our christians n the "NICE" muslims say nothing.
@@whateverbabei saw some comments under this very video of muslims still cslining that their religion is perfect and mocking others for saying otherwise
I still wanna know if she disagrees with the Koran on death penalty for apostates, gays or people who commit adultery.
But since it's the religion of peace, I think I know her stands on it.
she disagrees because she does not properly follow her religion.
@@Mysterychannel12 that's fine she doesn't have to follow it to the letter. Belief is personal
@@ussinussinongawd516 oh really can you cherry pick the words of god
@@Mysterychannel12 yes
@@Mysterychannel12 it's all subjective and about interpretation tbh... So it's upto ppl how and what they believe. So yes you pick and choose what 'God says'
Now that I know that Njnja Mommy is honest, I don't hate her guts anymore😂 she's actually a nice person.
As an ex-Muslim,I hope that she will research more about Islam to know the harsh reality.. and I generally wish her the best 🤍
Stop lying Edward
Idk what do you mean by harsh reality, im not at your place but I am a Muslim woman, a Malaysian from a muslim country which also follow sharia law, rule and regulation, i dont feel anything harsh about my religion but accepting and peace.
@@Clover-wg5xx Here's something to think about. We like talking about Nazis because it's comfortable, right? We know about the Holocaust, yea? What if i told you that Muslims oppressed Jews for centuries? What if I told you that the Holocaust pales in comparison to what muslins did in india? Now, tell me something. If you went to Nazi Germany, after they had won the war (alternative history, I know), and you asked them about their doctrines, what do you think they would tell you? I wager it would be one of these things: "We are only protecting and furthering our nation", "We wanted peace but we were pushed", "They (the jews) asked for it". Better yet, let's say Nazism spread to the world and you went to, say, Argentina, and you asked about Nazism. What would they tell you? Maybe something like "What are you talking about? We just want peace". Same exact rhetoric as yours. Same. Exact. Rhetoric. Just because YOU didn't participate in the atrocitices does not.mean they didn't happen. And they happened because of islam. The quran decrees genocide and rape and slavery (and rape of slaves and war prisoners... muslims are even told to make sure to impregnate their prisoners of war too). I get that you see nothing wrong in your personal practice, but you are wrong when you say islam wants peace. You wouldn't know peace if you weren't muslim. Even as a muslim.woman, your rights are diminished to 1. That is the point. That is all.
@@Clover-wg5xx 'cause that's what they made you to believe
How about malaysian ex muslims who are affected by that sharia and are arrested? Or even those who do not fast and are persected too. Islam has engrained itself in malay culture that practices are synonymous or interchangeable. Malay ex muslims still face alienation because of this
This is such a wonderful conversation. So much love. Bravo to all of you! ❤️❤️
Omg I'd never thought a Muslim apologist would ever consider us as human beings... Thank you ninja mommy I have more respect for you, eventhough I may not believe in what you believe in, I hope the best for you
Are you kidding me? She's not a 'Muslim apologist'. She's a Muslim.
There's stuff that even she is critical towards within Islam.
Apologist is to believe in something controversial. All religions have millions/billions people who disagree also millions/billions that agree. Overall, it isn't a topic that is overwhelmingly disfavored. As far as your feeling of not being considered a human being, I'm guessing this is due to the Muslims you have around you.
As a muslim, I was honestly waiting for this moment.
Loving the mutual dialogue of understanding and respect!! 🙌🔥 ❤️
I feel that Sidra has something going on in life. I think you need to talk to her personally.
Like she’s actually reading her scriptures?
@@ramabapat like something she didn't expect happened with her in real life, making her realize that ex muslims weren't kidding
@@archierego i think so too
This was a beautifully wholesome moment ❤️
This is so beautiful! ❤️
I hope Ninja Mommy stays safe. The Dawah boys aren't gonna like this call.
Be safe, Sidra.
My estimation of Ninja Mommy as a person just skyrocketed!
Did it? I mean, she clearly recognises what’s happening and her reality is nowhere close to the realities of at least a 100 million people who are ex-muslims and people who live with muslims, yet she somehow thinks islam is beautiful?
Nah, bruh.
@@meetankush I feel like shes in the apostating phase, cuz she literally apologised for her religion at one point. and honestly? if we want a middle ground, I'd much favour this. I appreciate the growth and people *do* change. and seeing her not talk in the happy-goey voice for once is definitely a good step, feels more genuine.
@@meetankush Islam is the only thing they know from where to find fulfilment/meaning and leaving it leaves a pretty big void in their lives. It’s not fair to expect people to always have a big picture, be completely mature and analytical especially at a young age.
Taqqiya Mode : ON
👍 %100
I had never imagined, such a fruitful conversation between these 2 groups. So amazing to listen to. Im almost a bit emotional and im not even ex muslim/muslim 😂
❤
Have never seen a Muslim who is so kind and loving and respectful like you in public.i hope all Muslims would be respectful.thanks ninja mummy.
I hope this leads to her total awakening. Some Muslims are good people, but referring to someone like Muhammad as their best example forces them to live in a completely different reality and to justify the atrocities against innocent human life.
@Constantine Mithras What about atheism ? We don't have to follow a religion nowadays
@Constantine Mithras I see Muslims like that term mangod. The name Jacob means the one who wrestled with God. Ask your imams why they still refer to Jacob by that name if they don't believe that God can manifest in the flesh as pertaining to the story.
@Constantine Mithras Muslims worship Muhammad, who according to Islam's own sources married a six year old girl and his own adopted son's wife, slottered a peaceful Jewish tribe in Medina and raiped his female captives even if they were already married.
@Constantine Mithras this does not help ex-muslims
@Constantine Mithras people who dont believe in god
This was beautiful to listen to. I still have reverence for portions of Islam and it's history because it's my history but I can't follow the path anymore. Seeing Muslims and ex-Muslims constructively talking to each other is wonderful and provides hope that such dialogues can take place.
Why can’t you follow the path anymore? Do you still believe in God? And have you read the Qur’an?
I love this, I hope more connections like this are possible and ppl can follow what the want freely and harmlessly 🥰
I am emotional watching this and im not even Muslim nor exMuslim ... just from a humanly perspective. this is giving me hope.
There is hope for humanity
Please keep doing what you’re doing
good that ninja mommy has apologize and opened her eyes
Good that both parties apoligized.
I wasn't expecting this at all, and I'm very pleasantly surprised. Props to everyone involved.
This started my whole day out on such a high note 🥰 all the feels!!! What a great video.
You just earned yourself a subscriber.
I respect you all for deciding to have a friendly conversation rather than fighting with each other.
Listening to Sidra, here we have an example of humility, honesty and emotional intelligence; and given how toxic these matters can become, firstly an example of bravery.
Know this is 3 years old, but glad you posted this. ❤ touched my heart.
"I am sorry about the rules of my religion and I know that doesn't show through my actions cause I choose to follow it"
"You should speak your truth and you should not be silent"
Damn ninja! I am a anti-theist but even I can find this apology respectful she realized the flaws in it which I admire a lot
It’s great to see this discussion. A great example for so many people having difficulty communicating. Just start with a respectful conversation and see what happens.
Congratulations to @Ninja Mommy for her courage, good heart and positive spirit !
Y’all open up new channels and paths for dialogue and tolerance. The three of you show how our humanity reaches out far beyond ideologies or differences,
She is sorry, thats the first step in realizing the dogma that is Islam.
Glad you guys got your apologies done, seriously religion is gonna be different for everyone and having open discussions about religious beliefs is helpful for many.
I didn’t know about the recent disagreements but am pleased that both parties have reached common ground and have respect for each other. Dialogue is the key. Problems arise when you stop or haven’t started talking like responsible human beings.
This is a big step forward.
EVERYONE learned a valuable lesson in empathy and understanding others’ POV.
Massive respect to Ninja Mommy for making the move.
I hope this is how all dialogues continue between muslims and non muslims.
I have never seen an active daee take this level of refelction. Makes me think maybe women are the answer to resolving Islam. Anyone else?
I agree
Alrighttttt what a crazy wholesome video , this video actually made me happy lol
Ninja Mommy....you have my respect...something which the other apologists should learn from, you were honest and humble. Kudos to Noodle and Aladdin too....you guys have paved a way where others can learn from....a discussion style where we humans should be taking
I want to believe Ninja Mommy has changed but I'm still on the fence. We'll see
She was always a good human just that she is kinda stupid and she thinks that world is very nice.
That's the only problem and she even explained the same in video.
same with ya wacka wacka
I've had several discussions with Sidra behind the scenes since this livestream and I genuinely believe she is a kind, compassionate person. I'll admit, I was slightly apprehensive myself in the beginning. But the more I speak to her, the more I realise how wrong my initial perception of her was
Same, due to "Taqiya"
@@InfidelNoodle Well whatever the case, I hope that you continue to fight for the rights of ex religious people 😊
AMAZING! ❤
Thank you, Ninja Mommy (Sidra), for your honesty! Respect!
Ninja mommy i take my head off for you. I hope you stay safe.
You must mean Hat 👒 😀
@@Kool.. or hijab
Head, hihihi
Aladdin is such a great sport the way he graciously accepts being cut off by the ladies 😂❤️❤️
A religious person, no matter the faith, admitting that they had it easy and that not everyone else may have, is huge. I can respect this admittance. This is one of the things atheists see that religious people don’t see. I grew up in Muslim countries and was floored at the disregard religious people showed their fellow human beings. Same in other religious countries. It’s one of the biggest turnoffs about religion. We are fellow human beings first and foremost.
hey,
my name is Hamid, im a 20 years old guy. I live in Iran
I'm a muslim and I have a non-muslim friend who i really love him
i think muslims and non-muslims can coexist together in a group and be the best friends,
as long as they understand each other and both of them be reasonable people
thanks for the video
So you would be surprised if God would send your friend to Hell simply for not believing in Islam?
@@Smithpolly one of the important points that I learned in high school about the Islam was that "in many cases" you can't simply predict that a person will go to the hell or not. it depends on lot's of situations and only God can decide about that person.
e.g. I grew up in a muslim family, but he didn't
You're an apostate, you just don't know it yet.
@@hamidbluri3135 So is that a Yes? You would be surprised if God sent your friend to Hell simply for not believing in Islam?
@@Smithpolly i said I can't judge whether someone will go to the hell or not - it depends.
i chose him as a friend not because of his religion, but because he was a reasonable person
also we have lot's of common interest,
Beautiful conversation! So encouraging!
Congratulations for breaking away from the other Abrahamic cult.
Ali dawah will now troll ninja
"Apostate Ninja" would be great! I look forward to her apostasy, being free from the chains of Islam. Love you Sidra!
This is as weird as muslims who says that they are looking forward to someone converting into islam
@@jeeonkinks_113 yep
apostate ninja😂😂
@@Mysterychannel12 nah I'd prefer her continuing to be ninjamommy just changed a bit
@@ussinussinongawd516 apostate ninja is dope😂😂
How sweet! She’s sorry for the atrocities allowed and encouraged by her religion.
She thinks homosexual relationships are haram and wouldn't accept it if her children would be in such a relationship.
Coming back to this, I can't believe I was so lucky to witness this live during the livestream- I was literally bawling my eyes out in awe at this. This is like a defining moment in history. One of the most wonderful ones to be honest. I wish it continued farther but nothing seems to have changed between the muslim and ex muslim communities yet...
This is the most beautiful thing 💛
that's a really rare moment of kindness on the internet! thank you for making it happen!
I never expected this breakthrough!
Because it isn't.
My respect for Sidra has skyrocketed. Please respect her. I hope she will soon be freed from Islam when she realises the dark side of Islam. Wish her all the best!
@V ... Not yet but her tone sounds skeptical to her belief system. Watch her videos and she often sounds stress. You can read it from watching.
Ninja mommy has a good heart 🥺❣️ I wish her the best.
She thinks homosexual relationships are haram and wouldn't accept it if her children would be in such a relationship.
I was not aware of Ninja Mommy until a few weeks ago, hearing references to her on Apostate Prophet's channel. I have never heard her speak before.
It is great to hear this conversation today. It sounds as if she is opening her eyes to more of what is really happening in the world. Now I would ask her to think about this.
In yesterday's BBC there was a news item about an Islamic State (Sunni) suicide bomber who killed himself and at least 50 Shi'ites who were attending Friday prayers in a mosque in Kunduz, Afghanistan. This is not a rare, unusual event. My question:
Can Islam be at peace with the world while it is at war with itself?
Ninja Mommy is reaching out to those on the "other side" and seeking reconciliation. I commend her highly for this. She is a positive example for others to emulate. I hope others will.
These Women were lovely and respect goes out to them both finding middle ground.
I'm so happy to see the things you've done! All our support is with you!
I want to tell something; in reddit exmuslim community everyone was like really agaist her and i feel so sad to see people judge so easily, i really realised that "whichever community you are in it doesn't matter, there is always people that doesn't respect others". I really like her as an exmuslim, wishing the bests for you my friends, keep following your belives!
That's how real people handle disagreements love and respect to all
I still doubt her motives!
Same 😐
Don’t
Same.... never trust the snake 🐍
I don't consider her a snake at all !!
She is far better than a lot of muslim apologist like Pikachu etc .
But what strikes me are her reasons .
According to her " she wasn't aware that ex Muslims are good people who choose to not follow islam " .
She thinks that the world revolves around her because she thought that since she has had it all easy everyone else has it too !!
Wtf .
I'm not convinced here !!
@Constantine Mithras I don't think I am !!
Wow. This is how ex Muslims and Muslims can be friends again. You and Ninja mommy are so brave
By believing in taquiyya
@@honda-akari wish I could just block you
Was getting emotional seeing all the comments..and then you pop in
@@anamhana3590he is right
We love you, Noodle!! Stay safe :)
This is so wholesome!!
Ninja Mommy is a Loving Mommy! ❤️
I literally watch aisha sidra and mubina all three together nd i always found it that u guys can match it ..i cant describe in words how happy i am to see a genuine convo bw u three..💓 respect to all three...
I'm watching this video 2 years after it has been posted, and I 'm speachless about the falsehood and hypocrisy of this conversation. I'm very disappointed about the two exes, and disgusted by the attempt of manipulation of Ninja Mommy. A really sad show.
I’m 3 years late but y’all brought to tears
Thank you ninja mommy for acknowledging ninja mommy your mistakes. Thank you for understanding that you have came across the wrong way you were so open and honest in the video. Criticising religious ideologies is crucial for societal progression nobody should be attacked, killed for leaving Islam or get death threats. I'm not anti Muslim I just focus on criticising the Claims made by the ideology. I do not hate Muslims I just don't agree with Islamic philosophy.
This is my favourite video ever.... Thank you
❤😢Excellent MashaAllah May Allah unite us upon GOODNESS (Ameen🤲🏾) #awwsosweet
I think this one of my favorite videos on the internet ❤ I am so glad you guys had this discussion 😀 Definetly wasn't expecting this!!! Sending you guys lots of love ❤ Good wishes and lots of kisses😘❤
As an nonreligious person, I have to say this is much better than someone like Apostate Prophet (or those Dawa Muslims who just want to convert you or attack you rather than simply just listen to ex-muslims and their truth). Glad I discovered your channel.
This is a good way not to make discussions personal.