Solid point @IntotheKnicksVerse, but please enlighten me how come we see that but Tom Shitbodeaux continues to do the same thing game in and game out with his outdated 1995 drop coverage defense, thinking that results would be different in 3pt shooting league? He is not making any adjustments! And I am not eve talking about him not letting Rooks and or other athletic guys on the team more playing time with starters.
It is not surprising that we are the worst or 2nd worst team to defend 3p shooting. As you mentioned, the coach’s understanding of defense is outdated.
Starters: JB, OG, Mikal, Huk/sims and Kat Bench: Cam,Deuce, Hart, Huk/Sims and Precious When Mitch ever comes back, your starters are: JB, OG, Mikal, Kat and Mitch I said what I said.
Say what you want, but once again it's Thibbs who is not playing the bench and the starters are exhausted at the end of the game! "IT IS THIBBS THAT IS STUBBORN"
Playing the inept bench more means a potential 5 point win turns into a 5 point loss. The Knicks are winning some of their games as a direct result of avoiding playing the bench. When you play your five best guys more than your opponent plays their five best guys, short term results are more likely to go in your favor. Blame roster construction and Leon Rose for this situation. You don't win Championships in the NBA with three rookies on your 15-man roster. Especially when none of those rookies were drafted high. Two of them are second rounds and Hukporti was the last pick in the second round. Those rookies may turn into good players in the coming seasons but it's a pipe dream to think we're going to get much out of them this season.
I went to this game.....I'm pissed we didn't win. Knicks were lazy until the last minutes. I could tell because I was right next to the bench and I can see the effort in their faces.
We lost ihart and Mitch has been hurt. The Knicks knew we'd be screwed and traded for Kat. OG has been playing pf and I think its showing. When og plays SF and Mikal is playing sg or 6th man we'll really see this teams potential. I do think thibs needs to play the bench more especially on b2b's. We're not catching Cavs or Boston so its ok. And Mitch should start by the end of the season.
@ I think he’s nice too. Doesn’t change the fact that he refuses to contest shots. Look at how much better our D is tonight. When our wings don’t have to help so much in the paint they can defend the 3. We need a rim protector.
Start sims with kat. Play him 10 mins. He will give you 10 rebounds. He will be a rim protector, play good defense and will set good picks. He doesnt have to shoot. He can rebound and dish out the ball to the hogs who do nothing but dribble and shoot.
Was waiting for your recap George need a safe place to vent frustrations with some one who thinks like me lol😂 sometimes I just feel like smacking some sense to Thibs we always with that stupid drop coverage from three we are getting murdered , we always have some bench player have carreer nights from 3 and we always let the hot three point shooter shoot wide open but guard the cold guys like what.....
Why the f did Leon give up Barrett and Quickley for that overrated role player OG? Leon payed the clown like he is a superstar and he is nothing but a glorified role player who is ranked 51 defensively this year, stats dont lie all I heard was people clamoring about how great a defender he is LMAO. He has been awul and a total flop for what he is payed and the Knicks gave up to get him.
Hart's comments could be about OG. If you remember while in Toronto OG was upset cause he wanted to be more a part of the offense. Here he"s the 4th option.
I think Brunson has grown defensively over the years. He’s contesting a lot more and sticking to his player. But somehow we’ve lost our ability to get a stop.
George this team got used to being treated like something that they are not. . OG is widely overrated. Hart & Brunson with there pod cast where they are interviewing Carmela Soprano & Ben Stiller. Nobody cares guys about that BS. Let Jimmy Fallon do those interviews those guys play basketball enough with the celebrity bull shit. I think the success has gotten to there damn head. This team has done nothing & I’m sick of them losing at home to play in teams. I’m tired of this group, I really am. It’s time for a major shakeup.
Many delusional Knicks fans are now saying it's gonna take a few seasons to build after the trade 🤔.. I guess I missed the memo. I didn't know last season was a tank job ....
It was never magic. When you've played 40 games there is a ton of film out there for other teams to figure out what you like to do on the court. Any early success is dwindling because the rest of the league catches up to your schtick. The problem is the Knicks are a one trick pony. You have to adjust and show you can play different styles. Not having a bench that is ready for prime time is limiting the adjustments that they can make. No major trade will be made to save this season because Leon Rose blew his wad on the two big trades over the offseason. The 2024-25 Knicks are who they are and that's probably it.
He’s not going anywhere while team is 3rd in the East Conf. If they fail in the playoffs then it might be the end of the Thibs era with the Knicks but I’m hoping they figure it out and get to the ECF.
Why is everyone all of a sudden trying to make us feel good about beating nobody lmao. Who gives af if we are projected to win 55 games. 56 games. Whatever tf is it. We are not beating contenders. And we are barely beating young athletic garbage teams. Why should i expect us to beat teams in the playoffs we are not beating now? Experts telling us "you guys are good but not this year" well mf wake me up when its 2026 im not here for participation trophies tf
No time to panick but come on what the fudge are we doing on D? Isnt Tibbs thought to be a defence coach? We are not 2 for stupid loses in MSG and the utah debacle..........
Listen the next a not playing defense. What happened to the defense on typical? Supposed to be a defensive coach, come on. Well, only thing I could say we gotta wait till Mitch. Get back cause we're not questioning off defense. The defense man we missed some of these things. You cannot win a championship or games without defense. Too many people just gone scorn as well. The ones we get Mitch back. Cause midstone really come out to pain. You know what I mean? So we get Mitch back here b. E in that paint block and shot scrabbing. Rebound, that'll give aunt Toms. More customs come out a lot to shoot, so he's not getting that many offensive. Boardsports, well, he comes out and I see a lot of times as the New York Knicks what they do when a day drive come up for jump shot Dave back up stood up Going Out to the play a hole in their hands up. We gotta put pressure on we. It's gotta be like the old last year's team. It's the defense buddy, don't worry, wait to big Mitch, get back.
I’m a big og guy, it’s clear he makes this team tick since he got here last year. I don’t think there’s much here but in a hypothetical where this whole thing goes wrong and he’s traded, wouldn’t mind working out a trade where we send og and a bench piece or 2 for Trey Murphy and yves missi or Lauri markannen and kessler walker
ONLY Knick fans panick when their team is 3rd in the standings, 11 games over 500. Yea we lost a couple of games but what did you expect? You're not going to win ALL OF THEM.
It depends on the goal. If the goal is the championship, it is the time to panic. If the goal is just the playoff eligibility, of course no need to worry.
Knicks still can’t beat elite teams unbelievable 💯
Solid point @IntotheKnicksVerse, but please enlighten me how come we see that but Tom Shitbodeaux continues to do the same thing game in and game out with his outdated 1995 drop coverage defense, thinking that results would be different in 3pt shooting league? He is not making any adjustments! And I am not eve talking about him not letting Rooks and or other athletic guys on the team more playing time with starters.
Love it 😂😂😂 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
It is not surprising that we are the worst or 2nd worst team to defend 3p shooting. As you mentioned, the coach’s understanding of defense is outdated.
Starters: JB, OG, Mikal, Huk/sims and Kat
Bench: Cam,Deuce, Hart, Huk/Sims and Precious
When Mitch ever comes back, your starters are: JB, OG, Mikal, Kat and Mitch
I said what I said.
Say what you want, but once again it's Thibbs who is not playing the bench and the starters are exhausted at the end of the game!
"IT IS THIBBS THAT IS STUBBORN"
Playing the inept bench more means a potential 5 point win turns into a 5 point loss. The Knicks are winning some of their games as a direct result of avoiding playing the bench. When you play your five best guys more than your opponent plays their five best guys, short term results are more likely to go in your favor. Blame roster construction and Leon Rose for this situation. You don't win Championships in the NBA with three rookies on your 15-man roster. Especially when none of those rookies were drafted high. Two of them are second rounds and Hukporti was the last pick in the second round. Those rookies may turn into good players in the coming seasons but it's a pipe dream to think we're going to get much out of them this season.
I went to this game.....I'm pissed we didn't win. Knicks were lazy until the last minutes. I could tell because I was right next to the bench and I can see the effort in their faces.
We lost ihart and Mitch has been hurt. The Knicks knew we'd be screwed and traded for Kat. OG has been playing pf and I think its showing. When og plays SF and Mikal is playing sg or 6th man we'll really see this teams potential. I do think thibs needs to play the bench more especially on b2b's. We're not catching Cavs or Boston so its ok. And Mitch should start by the end of the season.
the main issues, if you can't beat any of the top teams you certainly cant be losing to worse ones
Maybe WE are one of those worst ones? by all measures....
@Green-ey4xn we had an easy schedule so we'll see by then end of the season
I think the ego Josh is referring to is KAT's, due to his refusal to contest shots in the paint and only focus on rebounds to keep his league lead.
No
I think kat is a nice guy .. not much BS person...
@ I think he’s nice too. Doesn’t change the fact that he refuses to contest shots. Look at how much better our D is tonight. When our wings don’t have to help so much in the paint they can defend the 3. We need a rim protector.
Start sims with kat. Play him 10 mins. He will give you 10 rebounds. He will be a rim protector, play good defense and will set good picks. He doesnt have to shoot. He can rebound and dish out the ball to the hogs who do nothing but dribble and shoot.
Was waiting for your recap George need a safe place to vent frustrations with some one who thinks like me lol😂 sometimes I just feel like smacking some sense to Thibs we always with that stupid drop coverage from three we are getting murdered , we always have some bench player have carreer nights from 3 and we always let the hot three point shooter shoot wide open but guard the cold guys like what.....
We have the 2nd worst 3P defense in the NBA in the last 13 games. That drop coverage has got to be dropped from the defensive scheme.
@@IntotheKnicksVersesadly it won't as long as Tom Shitbodeaux is the head coach
Should double coating his TV Screen
KAT in foul trouble and with a hurt hand and the Blockness Monster , Hukporti on bench . SMH
@@IntotheKnicksVerse🎯
You can panic or not, but the Knicks are not a contenders this year.
Hart shouldn't be talking,his defense isn't slowing anyone up.Brunson defense is totally unacceptable
The Knicks missed the big ragu and the chemistry between them. Also we are missing big mitch
I don’t think Og cares tbh. He had a lot more to play for last year he got his bag now
And he already got a chip I wouldn’t care either
Why the f did Leon give up Barrett and Quickley for that overrated role player OG? Leon payed the clown like he is a superstar and he is nothing but a glorified role player who is ranked 51 defensively this year, stats dont lie all I heard was people clamoring about how great a defender he is LMAO. He has been awul and a total flop for what he is payed and the Knicks gave up to get him.
Hart's comments could be about OG. If you remember while in Toronto OG was upset cause he wanted to be more a part of the offense. Here he"s the 4th option.
We need a nother head coach tibbs is out dated
A new coach won't instantly make the bench more talented and experienced. Three rookies on the bench. Great planning Leon Rose.
I think Brunson has grown defensively over the years. He’s contesting a lot more and sticking to his player. But somehow we’ve lost our ability to get a stop.
There not one player in the league Brunson can guard.
thibs will never learn. fire him. he was good but we want to be great. we won't win the chip with him.
I wan't them to stink it up so Thibs can be fired
OG needs to learn how to rebound
The Knicks paid him a max contract over last summer and they didn't make sure he knew how to rebound first?
mitch will save our defense and bail thibs out but it shouldn't matter. we should be way better than we are right now with our pieces and potential
George this team got used to being treated like something that they are not. . OG is widely overrated. Hart & Brunson with there pod cast where they are interviewing Carmela Soprano & Ben Stiller. Nobody cares guys about that BS. Let Jimmy Fallon do those interviews those guys play basketball enough with the celebrity bull shit. I think the success has gotten to there damn head. This team has done nothing & I’m sick of them losing at home to play in teams. I’m tired of this group, I really am. It’s time for a major shakeup.
Many delusional Knicks fans are now saying it's gonna take a few seasons to build after the trade 🤔.. I guess I missed the memo. I didn't know last season was a tank job ....
KAT
Our magic and spark are gone 😢
It was never magic. When you've played 40 games there is a ton of film out there for other teams to figure out what you like to do on the court. Any early success is dwindling because the rest of the league catches up to your schtick. The problem is the Knicks are a one trick pony. You have to adjust and show you can play different styles. Not having a bench that is ready for prime time is limiting the adjustments that they can make. No major trade will be made to save this season because Leon Rose blew his wad on the two big trades over the offseason. The 2024-25 Knicks are who they are and that's probably it.
They gotta fire Thibs
He’s not going anywhere while team is 3rd in the East Conf. If they fail in the playoffs then it might be the end of the Thibs era with the Knicks but I’m hoping they figure it out and get to the ECF.
Not gonna happen.
PSALMS 42:1 As the deer pants for streams of water, so my soul pants for you, O God.
Why is everyone all of a sudden trying to make us feel good about beating nobody lmao.
Who gives af if we are projected to win 55 games. 56 games. Whatever tf is it. We are not beating contenders. And we are barely beating young athletic garbage teams. Why should i expect us to beat teams in the playoffs we are not beating now? Experts telling us "you guys are good but not this year" well mf wake me up when its 2026 im not here for participation trophies tf
No time to panick but come on what the fudge are we doing on D? Isnt Tibbs thought to be a defence coach? We are not 2 for stupid loses in MSG and the utah debacle..........
Listen the next a not playing defense. What happened to the defense on typical? Supposed to be a defensive coach, come on. Well, only thing I could say we gotta wait till Mitch. Get back cause we're not questioning off defense. The defense man we missed some of these things. You cannot win a championship or games without defense. Too many people just gone scorn as well. The ones we get Mitch back. Cause midstone really come out to pain. You know what I mean? So we get Mitch back here b. E in that paint block and shot scrabbing. Rebound, that'll give aunt Toms. More customs come out a lot to shoot, so he's not getting that many offensive. Boardsports, well, he comes out and I see a lot of times as the New York Knicks what they do when a day drive come up for jump shot Dave back up stood up Going Out to the play a hole in their hands up. We gotta put pressure on we. It's gotta be like the old last year's team. It's the defense buddy, don't worry, wait to big Mitch, get back.
I'm tired of this inconsistency, I stopped watching games for a while...
There is some consistency that Knicks cannot win top teams. Inconsistency is that we may win or lose to middle teams.
Why not kick the tires on Reggie Bullock
Too old
I’m a big og guy, it’s clear he makes this team tick since he got here last year. I don’t think there’s much here but in a hypothetical where this whole thing goes wrong and he’s traded, wouldn’t mind working out a trade where we send og and a bench piece or 2 for Trey Murphy and yves missi or Lauri markannen and kessler walker
ONLY Knick fans panick when their team is 3rd in the standings, 11 games over 500. Yea we lost a couple of games but what did you expect? You're not going to win ALL OF THEM.
It depends on the goal. If the goal is the championship, it is the time to panic. If the goal is just the playoff eligibility, of course no need to worry.
Did Og get the bag and it went to his head?
Sure looks that way.
No he's just not really that talented