Find out how one SATs exam left some young pupils 'in tears' | 5 News
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► Lots of parents and teachers have complained that one of this year's tests was too hard, leaving children upset and stressed. Well now the schools minister has said he's going to look into those concerns. Our chief correspondent Tessa Chapman has more.
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See this has me questioning why teachers are constantly asking for a pay rise if kids today can't even do their SATs. Are they even teaching kids these days as we all know they are coming out of school with some of the worst grades and even worse attitudes. We all did these tests back when we were in school, perfectly fine. No issues at all. And of course the parents are going to find the tests hard, they aren't in active education and probably haven't been for years.. This is ridiculous, the younger lot needs to be working harder like we had to. 🤷
So many assumptions in this comment! Sometimes exam boards get it wrong - tests vary in difficulty from year to year and they have to adjust the grade boundaries to account for that. Pupils now are not doing the same tests that pupils were doing 10 years ago or even 5 years ago - curriculums change and tests change every year. I don’t know if you know any teachers but they work harder than anyone I know, the workload is insane and growing, they get a real-terms pay cut each year, schools continue to be severely under funded and understaffed - and you wonder why children aren’t getting the grades?! The whole education system needs an overhaul and proper funding
You have it backwards. Higher relative pay leads to more people wanting to join the profession i.e. more competition for teaching jobs, which leads to higher quality teachers selected. It is the exact and only way to increase standards, proven both historically and across the world throughout time
@@gaptoothpatrick Bullshit, son. I know a few teachers and they are bone idle. Children aren't getting the grades because teachers are fucking useless. I do agree with you that the whole eduction system needs an overhaul and it starts with getting rid of the bloody teachers.
This makes me so angry, if anyone has a child who gets upset at SATs they have failed them,SATs are a test of how well that childs school has taught them,they have nothing to do with the child.I never allow any SATs revision classes or talk of them being important,they are not.The secondary school will use the results to place the child in sets but if a child shows aptitude above the SATS results they will be moved,the same as extreme revision will artificially boost that child and they will probably eventually be moved down.Schools drum into parents and children SATs are important as they want the best result possible for their school.A confident good school wont even mention SATs test to the children.
"extreme revision" and "artificially boost" don't belong in that sentence, do you not think that teaching a child study skills for them to make good use of them is a good thing? even if the SAT is a measure of how well the school teaches a child, it still comes down to the child to demonstrate that in the test. The children are the ones being examined, not the school, and so not only is it important that the exam is fair but also that the child is capable of preparing for it
@@luckerowl8990- both of you are wrong; it's half a dozen of one and six of the other
@@luckerowl8990 Children are being taught to pass exams not to learn. There is a reason we currently have, allegedly, the highest level of education ever but most kids can barely even spell or do basic maths and certainly can't do a thing in the work place. Far too much emphasis is being placed on useless bits of paper and nowhere near enough on what is actually relevant to real life. I have n degree and have never needed one despite being employed in a highly technical field (RF engineering). I have worked with many modern graduates who were absolutely no use to man nor beast but they sure had a lot of bits of paper.
I'd love to see the Education Minister to do it himself and publish his scores as compared to the Y6 students.
How well would you do Derek? Would you cry if you gat a question wrong?
And those kids may become future leaders of the country. 😮
My friends son and his class have just finished theirs and no problems! They live in a village and there are 7 in his class, yr6. Why are some of these children getting so upset about them is it because they are thick? 🥴🥴🤷♀️
I’d say you’re the thick one here
it wasnt even that hard 😭
Ah yeah like you know? Are you 10?
@@jacob4690 i got 227/230 I started wheni was young but tbh the test was HARDER than previous years
What this concludes is that children are getting softer
Or you’re thick?
@@jacob4690 No, he is correct. This is what happens when you get a participation medal...
@@jacob4690 aw, did your snowflake cry because his little exam was too difficult? 😢
@@MCDrB-wq8ed you’re thick too then?
@@Huwberts_Emporium considering I don’t have kids then no? The stats prove it was harder but clearly you’re too thick to grasp that
What's the point of SATS?
It’s not like they matter anyway
Would love to see the questions 👴🏼
Without seeing the questions the whole story is empty and pointless.
@@fizzyb00t not really can’t you understand stats?
It's been many years since I was in formal education. A few years ago out of sheer boredom following another anouncement on the news that our glorious education system had again hit record levels of A grades I decided to see just what the exams were like. I decided to do a maths GCSE paper. It was supposed to be an hour and 45 minutes long (my O level was 2 three hour long papers). I had done no theorectical maths for twenty years and obviously had done no revisision. I finished the paper in 40 minutes and achieved a B grade. I think that says everything we need to know aout the current education system.
Exams are supposed to be hard - other wise what's the point. Oh and shock-horror the questions maybe ambiguous - well I hope so. These kids need to study harder, not cry and demand a more dumbed down test regime. No one benefits from that.
I'm with you all the way on this Dennis.
Didn’t pay any attention to the report then?
I found it sooo easy
bro is 12
Get out of here lol 😂 Your account is almost as old as the kids who took this test
Come on. What's next? Analphabets?
My kids didn't cry when we tested them as part of homeschooling. I guess the problem is the schools.
Sorry but generally we are producing younger generations that are so soft and foolish these days. This is a generation that gets upset and offended by absolutely everything. It does make me wonder just how much education has been dumbed down across the board and what that means for the future when these kids are the workforce.
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Yeah well said all 11 year olds are snowflakes congrats!
The truly scary thing is this is the generation who, if the balloon went up, would be storming the beaches of Normandy. Truly we are utterly screwed.
@@MCDrB-wq8ed same generation that had no respect for women?
We are breeding a generation of losers. Parents need to push their kids harder and make them more tolerant to life’s challenges, otherwise the UK will continue to fail on the international stage.
Bit Harsh
@@DonutTeaBagleIt's really self evident that Britain is becoming way to soft on everything especially with kids. The pendulum has swung too far in the other direction where kids can now figuratively kill someone and the system will allow because they don't want to hurt the kids feelings and stop them having fun.
@@alexpenneytration699 Exactly. Education on the rise but reward on the decline.
wrong in this case.SATs are a test of the schools teaching,if parents push harder using private tuition ect, that in fact is the school "cheating" to get a better result, and the poor teaching of that school goes unanswered.
Yes I'm sure the nurturing unconditional love and kindness emanating from you is a sure sign that you are a great parent.
I'm being sarcastic. Never have a child.
Seriously, where is the thought process behind seeing a government make your life objectively harder and shittier, on a consistent basis, for 13 years, and then turn around and say 'well yeah that's tough luck better pull up your bootstraps'. Bit of a abused housewife mentality to be perfectly honest Gertrude. You realise that if you had kids in the 90s-00s it's a statistical likelihood they are going to be either poorer than you or at the same financial status as you when accounting for real wages, right?
Instead of blaming actual children and ordinary parents, you could perhaps consider first a little look at the government's austerity for public services, including schooling, and disastrous decline in standard of living for literally everyone who was not born rich. Declining wages, parents having to work longer hours and are unable to help children with school work. During this time, the government chooses to make a SATs test that is disproportionately difficult compared to previous ones. Last year they made a GCSE paper that made fucking uni students scratch their heads when trying it. (I can cite that for you if you like).
They also, objectively, cocked up A Levels during covid and caused working class people to be declined from universities despite good results because of a systematically classist system of dragging grades up and down according to the average of their schools - so if your child was talented at mathematics but their school suffered from poor grades, well tough luck your 9 has become a 6. I don't know like work harder or something I guess. 🤷♂ Oh and they were also warned about this and ignored all the concerns.
How low do you have to go before you realise you are knocking on the door to hell? Even for a tory, you've got some self-reflection to be getting on with Gertrude. I'd say 'and I say that with love' usually but i've got to say I can't here. People like you make this country a living hell. Instead of knocking on the door to hell, consider looking up. Or going outside and talking to people. If you are concerned about the country being a laughing stock, perhaps instead of blaming everyone around you, consider first a look in the mirror.