Nice one! Am planning to build my first cinelifter soon and the Y split method for 1 XT90 connector solved one of my problems I would have had hehe
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Hi ! Glad that I was able to help you ! Most important thing with the y is to make sure you pick the right gauge to support your current spikes. Otherwise they’ll either melt or not be able to deliver enough, both being dangerous
Great video! How easy would you say it is to just remove the arms for travel? Keeping all wiring and everything else together.
2 года назад
Hi ! Thanks ! It would be a hassle IMHO Those drones are designed so that parts are complimentary and will prevent each other from moving. I wouldn’t recommend although it’d be an interesting engineering challenge !
How to wire 2 esc to 1 fc, can u explain more detail sir.. And the betaflight setting for motor direct Thanks
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Hi ! You just need to find a FC that supports 8 motors. Only one of the ESCs will provide telemetry & power readout but that's fine. In BF, you just have to declare your drone as a X8 drone
@ mind if I ask, what are the reasons that you choose to build the taurus airframe instead of siccario / thicc? What other airframes you were considering before settling onto taurus?
Salut tout d’abord merci pour ta vidéo. , tu as mis des 1300 KV a la place des 1800 , ton choix est-il justifié par le fait que les Esc de 60 A sont Déraisonnablement hors de prix par rapport à des 50 A ?
3 года назад
Salut ! Merci beaucoup ! En réalité, 1300kv en 6S pour un cinelifter c’est le standard. Tu n’as besoin de plus que pour transporter de grosses cam. Que ce soit le Thicc ou le Taurus c’est ce que recommandent les constructeurs et d’ailleurs le Taurus BNF est en 1300kV :) Je n’ai jamais eu de problème avec cette config, jamais le moindre manque de puissance, les moteurs ne sont jamais chauds, j’ai 7mn30 de vol avec une blackmagic et je ne dépasse que rarement les 20A par ESC (télémétrie) alors qu’ils supportent des pics à 70A. Je pense que les 70-80A sont overkill mais que la différence de prix entre 50 et 60 (quelques dizaines d’euros grand max) est pour le coup une différence qui se vaut pour assurer la sécurité du matériel vidéo que tu fais voler. Tout ça n’est que très subjectif : quelle que soit ta source ce sera soit un constructeur qui a intérêt à te vendre plus, soit une expérience de pilote qui se base sur son propre vécu et les incidents qu’il a connu En tout cas encore une fois jamais eu le moindre problème et si c’était à refaire je mettrais certainement exactement la même config même avec toutes les nouveautés qui sont sorties depuis N’hésite pas !
Salut , merci pour ton montage , je ne comprends pas pourquoi tu as branché le VBAT de ta deuxième ESC sur ta FC , dans la mesure ou tu avais déja branché la première ESC sur le VBAT de la FC , elle était déja alimenté en 6s . pourquoi lui infliger 2 arrivées de 22volts ? thank you pour ta réponse .
3 года назад+1
Hello Sebastien ! En fait cest la même source mais avec deux provenances différentes. Tout est question de redondance. Si tu mets deux fois la même source de 22v sur ton FC tu as toujours 22V mais si un des deux parcours s’effondre (un ESC qui meurt, un câble qui se sectionne,…) ton FC est toujours alimenté et tu as plus de chance de pouvoir mettre ton drone et son précieux chargement en sécurité au sol sans risquer de blesser personne. Les ESC sont alimentés séparément, le FC est doublement alimenté, la air unit est alimentée sans intermédiaire, ça réduit à mort les chances de problème critique ! J’espère que ça t’aide ! Merci pour ton passage et au plaisir !
Thanks for the video!! I just have a question, if you don't mind. Do you only hook up vbat, gnd, tel, cur from one of the ESC's? Then the other you only hook up the motor signal wires? Or do you have to hook up all wires from both ESC's to the flight controller? Thanks!!
3 года назад+1
Hi ! sorry for not replying before. That’s almost right. Except that I don’t wire vbat from an ESC as far as I remember. It’s being wired directly from the battery in //. If I was wiring from an ESC, I would do it twice (the F722 HD had 2 vbat pads) for redundancy in case an ESC fails Regarding tel & cur you’re right they come from only one of the ESCs that’s a limitation of X8 drones. You’ll need to x2 in your head the displayed values in order to estimate the total current being drawn. I ended up removing it from my OSD and didn’t even wire it on the second cinelifter that I built I hope it helps !
You said tighten the dampers. What experience did you have. Mine flies great in the google, but my Blackmagic gyro shows wobble on pitch axis. Could it be too loose?
Hi I have a question about the reason you solder the ESC wires directly to the FC instead of connecting to the side of the FC connectors
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Hi ! These specific ESCs and FC connectors wire orders do not match. Instead of remapping them which doesn’t feel safe to me, I preffered soldering individually to the pins
Hi , great build and great instruction video . Very professional. Can you please tell me , im a newby going to buy a second hand built one . Air unit not included . Is there anything I should be looking for that might be a problem ? Like I said , im very much not a pro like yourself .
2 года назад+1
Hi ! Thanks so much ! I’f the air unit isn’t included, then you won’t have any video in your googles. Cool thing is you can buy one and connect it as I show in the build video Just make sure that your flight controller is HD. Otherwise it won’t work with a air unit Feel free to use my links for your purchases if you want to support the channel ! Have a great day and thanks for watching Vincent
Hi, I would like to say thank you for creating this video! I have a couple of questions because I am not very good with circuitry. Is it okay for me to use the 50amp esc's because i accidentally bought those instead? Also, is it okay for me to use tx 60s for all of the battery connections, or is a tx 90 needed in that one spot? One last question, do you happen to know what size fuse you used to test the motors at about 7:50 in the video? Thank you again!
2 года назад+1
Hi ! Regarding the ESCs, I would say it depends on what weight you’ll be carrying and how agressive your flight will be. You may come to a point where they’re not able to follow when energy peaks are needed, even tho they should be fine most of the time. I honestly wouldn’t take that risk especially considering how expensive those rigs are. Tx90 is a MUST. Also big gauge wires. Your tx60s will just melt The fuse is a 6A fuse. I own an electronic fuse that is limited to 2A and will break on battery connection. 8 motors booting at the same time require a few more amps
hey, can I ask how much you paid for all the parts? want to compare with the pre built. and did you use a 50 amp esc? any problems with it? 200 bucks per esc seems a bit much to me... very clean build bro!
3 года назад+3
Thanks so much man !! I can’t recall accurately but I think total parts cost was around 1100$ vs 1600 for the BNF The BNF version has been reported substantial qc issues (even potato jet’s smoked on first power) The escs I used are 60A « only ». The ones most people use on Thicc builds and I strongly doubt I’ll ever reach more than 120A total Anyways every component I use is listed under the video and there are differences with what IFlight picked ! Hope this helps
@ hey thanks, just read that you answered, I am a builder so.. I will probably build this (at some point), and buy a backup frame and still save some $$:) its a nice and expensive frame lol
I can't understand how 2 ESC connect with flight controller and what is the motor mapping like same 4motor or uper motor direction is same then under side motor or something change like no one motor is clock and 2nd is anti clock
2 года назад+1
Hi ! Those are FCs that can accept 8 motors. Then in beta flight, you set it up as X8 instead of quad and there you go ! They even show you how to map motors !
Very informative, thank you for sharing :] Do you connect the telemetry wires from both ESCs? And do you use BiDirectional Dshot?
2 года назад
Hi ! Thanks so much ! I actually only measure CUR from one of the ESCs in order to make sure there’s no spike on my OSD I don’t use bi directional D Shot as for now. Might take a look at some time :) Thanks for coming by !
Antenna extension is not included in the frame kit?
3 года назад
I don’t think it was but I might be wrong. I bought a kit from AliExpress before recieving the frame and i don’t have spare left Frame LEDs were included tho
@ Oh, okay thats kinda strange for me, Iflight should have included it. Thanks for the answer
3 года назад
@@szikszaimate3291 you’re right especially given the frame kit price. I think their plan was to only include frame parts & their house made LEDs I would suggest double checking on their website in case I’m wrong ! Are you planning on building it ?
@ Yeah, I am already ordered most parts except the BEC(and the extensions). I am still searching for a reliable one. Maybe I will try to power a BMPCC from the lipo so in that case it would be even more important to find a good one
3 года назад
I would tend to think that the weight saving of internal battery - power cable - power consumption is like 1-2% and won’t make much of a difference but anyways I hope that you’ll enjoy your build ! It’s a great drone
All links are dead. Would be great if you listed the part names
11 месяцев назад
I’ll update the parts list asap Aliexpress loves doing that : they disable links so that you don’t get any money anymore even though you bring buyers in !
I am ! But I’m not sure I would build the same thing today given all new technologies that have emerged since then. Cinema DIY drones have evolved super fast
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8:00 Most chargers have digital power option to simply supply voltage. It works like a smoke stopper but you can set any amperage cut off you want.
Thanks for the tip ! I use a Hota D6 pro and I have no clue if it can do that
@ I use cheap imaxb6 for that, its so convenient
Je n’ai pas encore eu le temps de regarder mais rien que le fait que tu aies choisi de traiter le sujet... je m’abonne!!
Merci man ! Je savais que ça t’intéresserait !
Nice one! Am planning to build my first cinelifter soon and the Y split method for 1 XT90 connector solved one of my problems I would have had hehe
Hi ! Glad that I was able to help you ! Most important thing with the y is to make sure you pick the right gauge to support your current spikes. Otherwise they’ll either melt or not be able to deliver enough, both being dangerous
Great video! How easy would you say it is to just remove the arms for travel? Keeping all wiring and everything else together.
Hi ! Thanks ! It would be a hassle IMHO
Those drones are designed so that parts are complimentary and will prevent each other from moving. I wouldn’t recommend although it’d be an interesting engineering challenge !
@ Okay cool! Thanks for the insight. I will see if it's possible when I get mine next week.
How to wire 2 esc to 1 fc, can u explain more detail sir.. And the betaflight setting for motor direct Thanks
Hi ! You just need to find a FC that supports 8 motors. Only one of the ESCs will provide telemetry & power readout but that's fine. In BF, you just have to declare your drone as a X8 drone
Thank you for the great build guide video. 💪🏻 Liked and subbed! ✌🏻
Thanks so much dude ! I really appreciate !!
@ you're most welcome!
will you be doing a calibration and tuning guide too? If yes, LET ME KNOW.
@ mind if I ask, what are the reasons that you choose to build the taurus airframe instead of siccario / thicc? What other airframes you were considering before settling onto taurus?
Salut tout d’abord merci pour ta vidéo.
, tu as mis des 1300 KV a la place des 1800 , ton choix est-il justifié par le fait que les Esc de 60 A sont Déraisonnablement hors de prix par rapport à des 50 A ?
Salut ! Merci beaucoup !
En réalité, 1300kv en 6S pour un cinelifter c’est le standard. Tu n’as besoin de plus que pour transporter de grosses cam. Que ce soit le Thicc ou le Taurus c’est ce que recommandent les constructeurs et d’ailleurs le Taurus BNF est en 1300kV :)
Je n’ai jamais eu de problème avec cette config, jamais le moindre manque de puissance, les moteurs ne sont jamais chauds, j’ai 7mn30 de vol avec une blackmagic et je ne dépasse que rarement les 20A par ESC (télémétrie) alors qu’ils supportent des pics à 70A. Je pense que les 70-80A sont overkill mais que la différence de prix entre 50 et 60 (quelques dizaines d’euros grand max) est pour le coup une différence qui se vaut pour assurer la sécurité du matériel vidéo que tu fais voler.
Tout ça n’est que très subjectif : quelle que soit ta source ce sera soit un constructeur qui a intérêt à te vendre plus, soit une expérience de pilote qui se base sur son propre vécu et les incidents qu’il a connu
En tout cas encore une fois jamais eu le moindre problème et si c’était à refaire je mettrais certainement exactement la même config même avec toutes les nouveautés qui sont sorties depuis
N’hésite pas !
@ merci pour ta réponse 👍 complète et précise
jai limpression quil utilise des 60A et non des 50A... moi jpartirai sur des 60A deja que la vrai configue necessite des 80A
Salut , merci pour ton montage , je ne comprends pas pourquoi tu as branché le VBAT de ta deuxième ESC sur ta FC , dans la mesure ou tu avais déja branché la première ESC sur le VBAT de la FC , elle était déja alimenté en 6s . pourquoi lui infliger 2 arrivées de 22volts ?
thank you pour ta réponse .
Hello Sebastien !
En fait cest la même source mais avec deux provenances différentes. Tout est question de redondance. Si tu mets deux fois la même source de 22v sur ton FC tu as toujours 22V mais si un des deux parcours s’effondre (un ESC qui meurt, un câble qui se sectionne,…) ton FC est toujours alimenté et tu as plus de chance de pouvoir mettre ton drone et son précieux chargement en sécurité au sol sans risquer de blesser personne.
Les ESC sont alimentés séparément, le FC est doublement alimenté, la air unit est alimentée sans intermédiaire, ça réduit à mort les chances de problème critique !
J’espère que ça t’aide ! Merci pour ton passage et au plaisir !
@ Biensurs , c'est tres interessant , tu as raison effectivement pour la sécurité et la fiabilité de la machine . . merci de ta réponse rapide .
Thanks for the video!! I just have a question, if you don't mind. Do you only hook up vbat, gnd, tel, cur from one of the ESC's? Then the other you only hook up the motor signal wires? Or do you have to hook up all wires from both ESC's to the flight controller? Thanks!!
Hi ! sorry for not replying before.
That’s almost right. Except that I don’t wire vbat from an ESC as far as I remember. It’s being wired directly from the battery in //.
If I was wiring from an ESC, I would do it twice (the F722 HD had 2 vbat pads) for redundancy in case an ESC fails
Regarding tel & cur you’re right they come from only one of the ESCs that’s a limitation of X8 drones. You’ll need to x2 in your head the displayed values in order to estimate the total current being drawn. I ended up removing it from my OSD and didn’t even wire it on the second cinelifter that I built
I hope it helps !
Thanks for your tutorial. thats goodjob!
Thanks mate ! Glad that it helped
You said tighten the dampers. What experience did you have. Mine flies great in the google, but my Blackmagic gyro shows wobble on pitch axis. Could it be too loose?
Impressionnant le boulot ... Bravo !!!
Merci !!! 😀
Great build but i have a question everyone uses only one battery with "y" connection but can you use 2 6s batteries instead incase the voltage sag
Hi ! I would rather use sag protection equipment than use different power supplies for each ESC
very informative , but how to do you attatch the 2 motor plates together ? is there a screw and a bolt as the video doesnt show ?
One on the plates is designed to take the screw head while the other has an integrated bolt as far as I remember
Oh and thank you !!
@ thank you for taking the time to reply but do you have any idea where i can find the manual , i have been searching online for days but with no luck
Hi I have a question about the reason you solder the ESC wires directly to the FC instead of connecting to the side of the FC connectors
Hi ! These specific ESCs and FC connectors wire orders do not match. Instead of remapping them which doesn’t feel safe to me, I preffered soldering individually to the pins
Did you just hardwired the two ECS us to the one flight controller?
Yes sir !
Hi , great build and great instruction video . Very professional. Can you please tell me , im a newby going to buy a second hand built one . Air unit not included . Is there anything I should be looking for that might be a problem ? Like I said , im very much not a pro like yourself .
Hi !
Thanks so much !
I’f the air unit isn’t included, then you won’t have any video in your googles. Cool thing is you can buy one and connect it as I show in the build video
Just make sure that your flight controller is HD. Otherwise it won’t work with a air unit
Feel free to use my links for your purchases if you want to support the channel !
Have a great day and thanks for watching
Vincent
@ Thanks for the fast response.
Great channel .
Hi,
I would like to say thank you for creating this video! I have a couple of questions because I am not very good with circuitry. Is it okay for me to use the 50amp esc's because i accidentally bought those instead? Also, is it okay for me to use tx 60s for all of the battery connections, or is a tx 90 needed in that one spot? One last question, do you happen to know what size fuse you used to test the motors at about 7:50 in the video?
Thank you again!
Hi !
Regarding the ESCs, I would say it depends on what weight you’ll be carrying and how agressive your flight will be. You may come to a point where they’re not able to follow when energy peaks are needed, even tho they should be fine most of the time. I honestly wouldn’t take that risk especially considering how expensive those rigs are.
Tx90 is a MUST. Also big gauge wires. Your tx60s will just melt
The fuse is a 6A fuse. I own an electronic fuse that is limited to 2A and will break on battery connection. 8 motors booting at the same time require a few more amps
@ Thank you very much! This has been very helpful!
Hi, the links no longer work.
Which wires did you connect from each esc to the fc?
Vbat, gnd, m1 to m4 and on one of the ESCs tel and cur
@ thanks! :)
hey, can I ask how much you paid for all the parts? want to compare with the pre built. and did you use a 50 amp esc? any problems with it? 200 bucks per esc seems a bit much to me... very clean build bro!
Thanks so much man !!
I can’t recall accurately but I think total parts cost was around 1100$ vs 1600 for the BNF
The BNF version has been reported substantial qc issues (even potato jet’s smoked on first power)
The escs I used are 60A « only ». The ones most people use on Thicc builds and I strongly doubt I’ll ever reach more than 120A total
Anyways every component I use is listed under the video and there are differences with what IFlight picked !
Hope this helps
@ hey thanks, just read that you answered, I am a builder so.. I will probably build this (at some point), and buy a backup frame and still save some $$:) its a nice and expensive frame lol
Hay man!
Can you make a video with betaflight settings for this drone? Many thanks!
Hi !
I would strongly downloading iFlight’s beta flight dumps
They have all you need (including PID). Beware that the FC orientation is wrong
I can't understand how 2 ESC connect with flight controller and what is the motor mapping like same 4motor or uper motor direction is same then under side motor or something change like no one motor is clock and 2nd is anti clock
Hi !
Those are FCs that can accept 8 motors. Then in beta flight, you set it up as X8 instead of quad and there you go ! They even show you how to map motors !
@ thanks brother
Very informative, thank you for sharing :]
Do you connect the telemetry wires from both ESCs? And do you use BiDirectional Dshot?
Hi ! Thanks so much !
I actually only measure CUR from one of the ESCs in order to make sure there’s no spike on my OSD
I don’t use bi directional D Shot as for now. Might take a look at some time :)
Thanks for coming by !
I built my TX8 almost of these same specs...do you have any pids you could share
Hi ! I used iFlight beta flight dump PID and they work just fine for me :€
hey, How do you set up the motor layout in betaflight?
Hi !
Just pick X8 instead of quadcopter in the main settings tab
Beau travail 👏
Merci beaucoup !!
What large capacitor size are you using? The product is not available in the item list anymore. Thanks
Hi Andrew
They are 1000uF 35V caps :)
Sorry for the dead link I’ll update it at some point !
@ Thanks!! No worries its out of your control lol
what is the BEC
Antenna extension is not included in the frame kit?
I don’t think it was but I might be wrong. I bought a kit from AliExpress before recieving the frame and i don’t have spare left
Frame LEDs were included tho
@ Oh, okay thats kinda strange for me, Iflight should have included it. Thanks for the answer
@@szikszaimate3291 you’re right especially given the frame kit price. I think their plan was to only include frame parts & their house made LEDs
I would suggest double checking on their website in case I’m wrong !
Are you planning on building it ?
@ Yeah, I am already ordered most parts
except the BEC(and the extensions). I am still searching for a reliable one. Maybe I will try to power a BMPCC from the lipo so in that case it would be even more important to find a good one
I would tend to think that the weight saving of internal battery - power cable - power consumption is like 1-2% and won’t make much of a difference but anyways I hope that you’ll enjoy your build ! It’s a great drone
Missed capacitors?
Is it taurua x8 v3?
is it laowa 9mm?
No it’s the 7.5mm
@ thanks bro
vivement que je puisse investir, en tout cas merci pour la vidéo !
Avec plaisir !!! 😀
Ça viendra j’ai aucun doute
All links are dead. Would be great if you listed the part names
I’ll update the parts list asap
Aliexpress loves doing that : they disable links so that you don’t get any money anymore even though you bring buyers in !
That makes sense. Thanks man!@
could you please show us the wiring diagram?
Hi !
This would be a lot of work. Would suggest heading to « FPV cinelifters » on FaceBook where a lot of diagrams were posted
@ Thank you very much! :)
What is Total cost???
are you happy with this still?
I am ! But I’m not sure I would build the same thing today given all new technologies that have emerged since then. Cinema DIY drones have evolved super fast
any suggestions?? hit me
How did you wire 2 esc on to a fc?. You weren't clear on that. Did you double up the 2 esc wires on to the one pad on the fc?
You need an FC that supports 8 motors.
As he said ! :)
Hlo brother
Aloha