The best is to cross the male sahelian goat and the local female you will have the average height and weight you are looking for. I have done it before and I know it'll work. And my second suggestion is to go for Sokoto red or Maradi red (they're the same) you can cross them directly with the Kalahari red or the Boar goat because they have the characteristics you are looking for. I hope to see you trying this . All the best my brother
Fred, congratulations for leading the way. We thank your wife, baby & team @farminginafrica for supporting you in your quest to feed the nation and teach other budding farmers in Africa 👍
Yes, is a good initiative fred. I started with one saheliean buck and west African dwarf females. Now i have the right size n height to cross with a boer or khalahari. Still gathering funds to make a purchase. This is the best approach. I've tried n tested it for 2yrs now and it works. You are on the right path. Keep moving
I love to see the collaboration in these comments. Some very smart people in these comments. Africans across the continet wokring together. THIS is how you build.
Fred I'm doing same with the exact formula you're using. Last year I got 10 Nannies and 1 Buck from Burkina, thanks to my school mate who now lives in the North of Ghana. From experience I should tell you that, you would struggle to find a tall enough local goat to mount your Nannies. The ideal situation would be to buy a Sahelian Buck and let him mount the local Does. I currently have 4 mixed kids. However, you can cut the first part of the crossing, as there already exist a lot of the mixed breed (Sahelian X Local Goats) in Ghana. Get in touch and I'll explain further my process. We could compare notes
Nice work Mr. Fred. My idea for achieving this would have been to cross your sahelian females with a Nubian male to give the offspring more weight, height and milk production capacity which also translates to bigger kids. Then use the females of that cross breed to mate with a boer male. That's the best 3-way cross. Another hack would be to use a younger boer goat of say 5 months (which should be smaller than a mature male and present less size difference) to cross the WAD goats. It'll still transfer all the right genes without being a physical danger to your females.
Fred, you mean that female local goat that broke her back when the boar goat mounted,died? I'm proud of you for having this crossbreeding mindset, infact that's my next project. This is great because there are some good traits each breed can pass on to a new offspring. Good job, brother. Udeze Anthony.
Yes! Yes! Yes! ❤❤❤❤ Meticulous records beloved, I'm going keep reminding you of that in your comments. Breeds, parentage, gestation, weight, growth, feeding protocols, etc. Also, start planning at some point have to the product tested, gather nutritional data from the breeds your developing. ❤❤❤❤ Congrats! You should feel 100 feet tall @FarmingInAfricaGhana
We carryout cross breeding for a no of reasons, but most time people only capital on size improvement. Beyond size for this project its possible for one to come up with a new breed of goat that will combine features like adaptability with improvement in size and weight. As we know, our WAD goat is small on all fronts, in height, size and weight but when its comes to adapting, they can trive in almost all weather condition unlike others. The sahelian on ther side have a good height but also less in weight just like the WAD, while the boer is high in weight and size but still lacks the height. As we know height is one of the important factor in goat pricing in most markets in west africa. Combining these three goat breeds will product a new line of breed that will thrive well in our weather condition here and also have a good weight to go with it. So it think its a good idea to cross WAD first with the sahel goat before using the exotic breed on the cross breed. Good job, keep it up.
It will surely work. I crossedSahelian goat with wad last year and they are doing fine. The crossb breed have better hight Dan the wad and fatter more than the Sahel goat
Another advice I'll give you is to feed the local and sahelian goats very well so that they can add good weight before you allow the boar, Kalahari red or savannah goats mount them. Another thing is that you will have to get lots of milk from your cows to suppliment for the kids of the crosses, you know that they are offsprings of the exotic breeds and will be drinking lots of milk that their mothers won't be able to produce. Udeze Anthony.
A tenet in crossbreeding is that, the progenies (the kids) will likely get their size from the sire(male)... then the female better be easy kidding. If the sire is from a big, fast growing breed, better have enough, good and nutritious feed for the moms for her to produce the milk needed by the fast growing kids. Same will be true when you triple cross this to a boer. If your mission is to upgrade small native breeds, this objectival approach is fine. If you want profitable operation fast, start with Savanna crossed with galla, then cross the progenies with KR and/or Boer. Galla is good sized and good milker...reasonable to cross with either KR or Boer. You will have fertility/fecundity, hardiness, adaptability, size, milking capacity, meat quality and heat/dry/ pest and desease resistance. Gud luck
Hi Fred.. why don’t u just straight cross the tall desert goat with the Boer goat directly. I don’t really see what the local dwarf goat @ 9kg mature weight is going to add in terms of value ..
U know this sahelian goat are much more expensive in nigeria market especially in lagos and they are much more bigger than other goat breed you can find in the market. Well am talking base on my experience with goat markets in Lagos nigeria.
Why do what everyone else is already doing? I think what he is doing is great. West african goats are used to the climate in west africa and it's only wise to cross breed a goat from the south and the west to create a whole new breed for west africa.
Bonjour stp il faut penser à l insémination artificielle, et de S approcher de université du Ghana pour aussi avoir certains expériences scientifiques n ignore pas des fois on a des choses qu on va chercher ailleurs ❤r❤
I agree with you Fred, since the trait you are trying to pass on is in the imported goats, then it is normal that you use the imported male. God speed.
It may not work out bro coz they will get compilations during producing. So get a low pedigree Male of 80% to cross them and then cross those offsprings with the pure males. You will thax mi later
Avec l insémination artificielle vous pouvez vite atteindre votre objectif et n oubli pas la consanguinité des des animaux et génétique par leur comportement
For me, you should do artificial insemination using sperm from the boha goats to insert into the female goats of the saharian goats and eveethe female goats of the saharian goats
I am just wondering if this is a agricultural tourism or an actual farm. We saw cows(didn't work), poultry(didn't work), Pigs(never started), fish pond(didn't start), local goats(too small), kalahari & boaer goats(not yet successful), massive goat pen(updates pls), overgrown grass, broken down machines and now Sahelian goats and crossbreeding experiment. Guys, I am not hating here, I am a fan of all farmers and I am a farmer myself. WHERE ARE YOU GOING FRED? I/we are confused as to the direction of this channel and possibly your farm. Other channels (Value Farm, FarmUp, etc) have a path we can see and follow. Where are we going here? Is it an adventure or it's really farming? I am always hopeful that you succeed but I believe anyone who actually wishes you success should also have clarity in your direction. "TRANSPARENCY " . I just fear that your excitement and your ability to fund these things are blinding you. I hope i am wrong. If I followed your example every step of the way from when you started this channel, I will be so broke and lost by now. Those who followed FarmUp(poultry), Value farm(pigs/goats), snail & Rabbit farms you just covered are struggling and growing in those particular disciplines. Which discipline are we following here? I continue to pray you find that diamond 💎 and become a very successful and profitable business. God's blessings in your ventures ❤
It’s either you clearly don’t understand what Fred meant by L&D farm the reasons for doing what we are doing. First off Fred didn’t fail at Poultry or Cattle farming. We simply sold most of our cattle to focus on commercial goat farming. And we still have cattle at the farm. Deciding to stop investing in poultry isn’t also a failure. Please get your facts right and if you want to truly understand what we are doing, why don’t you come have a one-on-one at the farm? That way I’m sure you will appreciate more the work we are doing here and of course as much as we are transparent we cannot record every single activity at the farm so sorry if we are not able to show you the daily activities happening at the construction of the commercial goat pen
@FarmingInAfricaGhana Didn't work doesn't mean "failed" just so you follow and it's ok to ask for a sense of direction and to know your directions. It's always seen to be negative if one asks tough questions especially in our African cultures but my intentions are really not that. If you look at it from a positive/reasonable view you will see why I(maybe others) are having a hard time following. I am still a fan, I still want to see success and will still contribute my ideas. You ask us to comment below hence I comment. Some of these comments actually helps push you guys to actually succeed. Like I said, I failed for 15yrs to now be successful in last 5yrs as a rancher. I see my image in most of what you guys do and that maybe why I come from a different perspective than many other viewers. If you can't follow then I apologize for the unnecessary noise. I still wish you all the best and I will continue watching. Thanks.
The best is to cross the male sahelian goat and the local female you will have the average height and weight you are looking for. I have done it before and I know it'll work. And my second suggestion is to go for Sokoto red or Maradi red (they're the same) you can cross them directly with the Kalahari red or the Boar goat because they have the characteristics you are looking for. I hope to see you trying this . All the best my brother
True i have also done that before. The outcome is fast maturing, tall and big goat.
Your contact 🙏
Thanks
@@maxkenzie57200547453110
Get Gala goats from Kenya and crossbreed with the South S Africa goats
Mr. Fred thank you sososoo much u aa more than agric minister in Ghana here
Fred, congratulations for leading the way. We thank your wife, baby & team @farminginafrica for supporting you in your quest to feed the nation and teach other budding farmers in Africa 👍
Thanks very much. I do appreciate your support too
Yes, is a good initiative fred. I started with one saheliean buck and west African dwarf females.
Now i have the right size n height to cross with a boer or khalahari. Still gathering funds to make a purchase. This is the best approach. I've tried n tested it for 2yrs now and it works. You are on the right path. Keep moving
That's great. Thanks
I love to see the collaboration in these comments. Some very smart people in these comments. Africans across the continet wokring together. THIS is how you build.
Yeah right 💪🏾
Wooooow, congratulations and keep moving higher 👏. 😊
Thank you, I will
Fred I'm doing same with the exact formula you're using. Last year I got 10 Nannies and 1 Buck from Burkina, thanks to my school mate who now lives in the North of Ghana.
From experience I should tell you that, you would struggle to find a tall enough local goat to mount your Nannies. The ideal situation would be to buy a Sahelian Buck and let him mount the local Does. I currently have 4 mixed kids. However, you can cut the first part of the crossing, as there already exist a lot of the mixed breed (Sahelian X Local Goats) in Ghana. Get in touch and I'll explain further my process. We could compare notes
Alright sure. You can get in touch using this number +233241177677
please what do you mean by, cutting the first part of the crossing?
Nice work Mr. Fred.
My idea for achieving this would have been to cross your sahelian females with a Nubian male to give the offspring more weight, height and milk production capacity which also translates to bigger kids. Then use the females of that cross breed to mate with a boer male. That's the best 3-way cross.
Another hack would be to use a younger boer goat of say 5 months (which should be smaller than a mature male and present less size difference) to cross the WAD goats. It'll still transfer all the right genes without being a physical danger to your females.
That’s also a great plan. Thanks for sharing
Farm in Africa is pushing me towards my accomplishment. Thanks so much
You’re welcome. Pleasure is always ours
Great initiative Fred. Keep helping us out with all this amazing information.
Thanks, will do!
Fred, you mean that female local goat that broke her back when the boar goat mounted,died?
I'm proud of you for having this crossbreeding mindset, infact that's my next project.
This is great because there are some good traits each breed can pass on to a new offspring.
Good job, brother.
Udeze Anthony.
Yea it died. Thanks Anthony
My brother Fred, I like your dynamic nature. This is a brilliant idea. It's always exciting to watch your videos. 👍 👌 🥳
Thank you so much 😀
Thanks for the transparency when it comes to breeding. Wishing you success
Much appreciated. Thanks for watching
Wow I can't wait to hear your progress
I will keep you updated 💪🏾
Ayikoo Mr Fred
I miss your farm
It's been awhile
I'm so excited to see video
Congratulations 🎉👏
Thanks 🙏🏾
I am living in up northern Nigeria and these same ideas crossed my mine am happy you put it into practice...can’t wait for the results.
Wonderful! Will share them with y’all 💪🏾
@@FarmingInAfricaOfficial welcome fred
@@AshrafFarmscan you please send your contact
Yes! Yes! Yes! ❤❤❤❤ Meticulous records beloved, I'm going keep reminding you of that in your comments. Breeds, parentage, gestation, weight, growth, feeding protocols, etc. Also, start planning at some point have to the product tested, gather nutritional data from the breeds your developing. ❤❤❤❤ Congrats! You should feel 100 feet tall @FarmingInAfricaGhana
Yes! Thank you!
Crossing with galla goat always stand out great.
Hi fred any Update on the boar, dwarf and sahel breading.?
Thanks in advance❤
Not yet. Still waiting for results
I love ur drive ur enthusiasm its so contageous, i pray u go far u deserve that nd more,thank u for sharing
Thank you so much! I’ll always try my best
Great Job Fred congratulations 🎉
Thanks 🙏🏾
Hi Fred. Why not cross the sahelians directly with the boar/kalahari goats?
We don’t want to cross-breed with the Boer/Kalahari females but rather with the local females and South African males
Hi Fred. What about crossing the Sahelians with the Boers directly since they've got the height.
Yeah that could also work
This is very smart Fred. However have you considered crossing directly the sahelian with the boer male? any way keep us updated.
Alright. Will keep you updated
Good job done i say akwaba to them congrats.
Thanks
Great 👍, please Fred do you have IMO in your agro store?
Not yet!
@FarmingInAfricaGhana Alright thank you, but please how soon will you get it.
Please, any information on where I can get it?
We carryout cross breeding for a no of reasons, but most time people only capital on size improvement. Beyond size for this project its possible for one to come up with a new breed of goat that will combine features like adaptability with improvement in size and weight. As we know, our WAD goat is small on all fronts, in height, size and weight but when its comes to adapting, they can trive in almost all weather condition unlike others. The sahelian on ther side have a good height but also less in weight just like the WAD, while the boer is high in weight and size but still lacks the height. As we know height is one of the important factor in goat pricing in most markets in west africa. Combining these three goat breeds will product a new line of breed that will thrive well in our weather condition here and also have a good weight to go with it. So it think its a good idea to cross WAD first with the sahel goat before using the exotic breed on the cross breed. Good job, keep it up.
Thanks
It will surely work. I crossedSahelian goat with wad last year and they are doing fine. The crossb breed have better hight Dan the wad and fatter more than the Sahel goat
Oh great
Another advice I'll give you is to feed the local and sahelian goats very well so that they can add good weight before you allow the boar, Kalahari red or savannah goats mount them.
Another thing is that you will have to get lots of milk from your cows to suppliment for the kids of the crosses, you know that they are offsprings of the exotic breeds and will be drinking lots of milk that their mothers won't be able to produce.
Udeze Anthony.
Yeah right. Thanks again
Fred Fred Fred bravo
Thanks 🙏🏾
I think if you want height you should look for Gara goats,
Thanks. Will research on that
Be careful with humidity and above all avoid direct contact with rain. because our Sahelian goats don't like having their heads wet.
That’s very much for the info 💪🏾
A tenet in crossbreeding is that, the progenies (the kids) will likely get their size from the sire(male)... then the female better be easy kidding. If the sire is from a big, fast growing breed, better have enough, good and nutritious feed for the moms for her to produce the milk needed by the fast growing kids. Same will be true when you triple cross this to a boer. If your mission is to upgrade small native breeds, this objectival approach is fine. If you want profitable operation fast, start with Savanna crossed with galla, then cross the progenies with KR and/or Boer. Galla is good sized and good milker...reasonable to cross with either KR or Boer. You will have fertility/fecundity, hardiness, adaptability, size, milking capacity, meat quality and heat/dry/ pest and desease resistance. Gud luck
Well noted. Thanks
Hi Fred.. why don’t u just straight cross the tall desert goat with the Boer goat directly. I don’t really see what the local dwarf goat @ 9kg mature weight is going to add in terms of value ..
Is it wise to to crossbreed boer and kahalari
I wouldn’t advise that but it is possible. Kindly use this link to connect with us linktr.ee/contactfia
How do you keep mosquitoes and flies away from the goats
Constant Disinfecting
How can I get this in Nigeria
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i think this breed of goat is the gala or the somali goat. so you can even cross breed with the savanah if they gain little bit of weight
Well noted
Bisa kah di kirim ke indonesia dengan harga murah
U know this sahelian goat are much more expensive in nigeria market especially in lagos and they are much more bigger than other goat breed you can find in the market. Well am talking base on my experience with goat markets in Lagos nigeria.
Oh really? Cool
why not just breed the boer or kalahari goats? or cross them? i'll watch the video again to see if i messed the answer to that
Why do what everyone else is already doing? I think what he is doing is great. West african goats are used to the climate in west africa and it's only wise to cross breed a goat from the south and the west to create a whole new breed for west africa.
I think they have the size and you can cross them with the boer goats now, crossing them with the dwarf is going backwards if you ask me.
Well noted
breed it with your savana it works perfectly than to cross breed with the local before
Alright. Noted
Bonjour stp il faut penser à l insémination artificielle, et de S approcher de université du Ghana pour aussi avoir certains expériences scientifiques n ignore pas des fois on a des choses qu on va chercher ailleurs ❤r❤
Alright thanks
Why not try Sokoto red with WAD
Then boar male the the offspring of SRxWAD
Yeah that’s also a good one 👍🏾
Why can't you cross the sahelian with the boer goat?
That’s also a possibility
Crossing the male Sahelian with a female Boar or Kalahari should give you the desired hight and body max.
Yes but in this case we don’t want to cross the local male with the South African goats but rather the South African males with our local females
I agree with you Fred, since the trait you are trying to pass on is in the imported goats, then it is normal that you use the imported male. God speed.
Don't the boers and kalaharis get to 100kilos??? Why are yours so small???
The males are bigger than females
@@FarmingInAfricaOfficial how do you manage to keep the animals alive when moving from one location to another??? Sometimes they get sick and die??
Sahel goat +WA Dawf will u tall n huge goats
Yes, they do produce a good cross. We have them on our farm
Awesome! That’s the goal
It may not work out bro coz they will get compilations during producing. So get a low pedigree Male of 80% to cross them and then cross those offsprings with the pure males. You will thax mi later
Well noted
You could cross a male saheliean to a female Boar and continue from there
Yes that’s true but don’t want to change the bloodline of the South African females
@@FarmingInAfricaOfficial the male children that will come out from it can still cross the Sahelian females…
Avec l insémination artificielle vous pouvez vite atteindre votre objectif et n oubli pas la consanguinité des des animaux et génétique par leur comportement
For me, you should do artificial insemination using sperm from the boha goats to insert into the female goats of the saharian goats and eveethe female goats of the saharian goats
Yeah that’s also an option
I am just wondering if this is a agricultural tourism or an actual farm. We saw cows(didn't work), poultry(didn't work), Pigs(never started), fish pond(didn't start), local goats(too small), kalahari & boaer goats(not yet successful), massive goat pen(updates pls), overgrown grass, broken down machines and now Sahelian goats and crossbreeding experiment.
Guys, I am not hating here, I am a fan of all farmers and I am a farmer myself. WHERE ARE YOU GOING FRED?
I/we are confused as to the direction of this channel and possibly your farm. Other channels (Value Farm, FarmUp, etc) have a path we can see and follow. Where are we going here? Is it an adventure or it's really farming?
I am always hopeful that you succeed but I believe anyone who actually wishes you success should also have clarity in your direction. "TRANSPARENCY " .
I just fear that your excitement and your ability to fund these things are blinding you. I hope i am wrong. If I followed your example every step of the way from when you started this channel, I will be so broke and lost by now. Those who followed FarmUp(poultry), Value farm(pigs/goats), snail & Rabbit farms you just covered are struggling and growing in those particular disciplines. Which discipline are we following here?
I continue to pray you find that diamond 💎 and become a very successful and profitable business. God's blessings in your ventures ❤
It’s either you clearly don’t understand what Fred meant by L&D farm the reasons for doing what we are doing. First off Fred didn’t fail at Poultry or Cattle farming. We simply sold most of our cattle to focus on commercial goat farming. And we still have cattle at the farm. Deciding to stop investing in poultry isn’t also a failure. Please get your facts right and if you want to truly understand what we are doing, why don’t you come have a one-on-one at the farm? That way I’m sure you will appreciate more the work we are doing here and of course as much as we are transparent we cannot record every single activity at the farm so sorry if we are not able to show you the daily activities happening at the construction of the commercial goat pen
You again with this sane negative comment?
I believe there is more to learn beyond his videos. Have a discussion with Fred and just maybe you will appreciate his moves.
@FarmingInAfricaGhana Didn't work doesn't mean "failed" just so you follow and it's ok to ask for a sense of direction and to know your directions. It's always seen to be negative if one asks tough questions especially in our African cultures but my intentions are really not that. If you look at it from a positive/reasonable view you will see why I(maybe others) are having a hard time following. I am still a fan, I still want to see success and will still contribute my ideas. You ask us to comment below hence I comment. Some of these comments actually helps push you guys to actually succeed. Like I said, I failed for 15yrs to now be successful in last 5yrs as a rancher. I see my image in most of what you guys do and that maybe why I come from a different perspective than many other viewers. If you can't follow then I apologize for the unnecessary noise. I still wish you all the best and I will continue watching. Thanks.
@@davidleandro7026 Objective is not negative. Sorry if we see things differently.
Educate others and stop saying farming in Africa. How about 'farming in w Africa, here in ghana'.
Whats your problem and what point are u tyna make
@BobbyFizz if you have to ask, it will take too long to explain to you.
You use the word Basically with no meaning. What is it. 🕺
just use AI. semen from the dwarf goat male into the female bore goat
Yeah that will work