【Nijisanji】 Gundou Mirei on being a Lesbian 【Eng Sub】

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  • Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2024

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  • @madanitranslation3026
    @madanitranslation3026  4 года назад +805

    I've been busy with my job, so I wasn't able to translate any clip as of recent. To cut some time, I tried to make the translation in the form of CC because the editing software I'm using, Filmora9, is making it unnecessarily hard to add subtitles. I was able to take some time to make this clip, which is actually one that I have always wanted to make from the very beginning. I hope I can deliver more for you guys in the future.

    • @Necroneer
      @Necroneer 4 года назад +9

      Thanks for the hardwork man!

    • @ultimatedoge5990
      @ultimatedoge5990 4 года назад +4

      Filmora?? From experience, I do not recommend it. It's just... no

    • @laken6461
      @laken6461 4 года назад +2

      @@ultimatedoge5990 what would you recommend for editing?

    • @ultimatedoge5990
      @ultimatedoge5990 4 года назад +1

      @@laken6461 Well, vegas pro is the standard answer for simple edits and subtitles.

    • @madanitranslation3026
      @madanitranslation3026  4 года назад +7

      @@ultimatedoge5990 Vegas Pro is actually the first program I use with my earlier videos, but it crashes often for me so I switch to the simpler Filmora.

  • @feliscatus5161
    @feliscatus5161 4 года назад +2823

    "what is your body count?"
    "......I' lost count"
    lmao what an absolute chad

    • @ohno4865
      @ohno4865 4 года назад +117

      chad anime girl

    • @j.j1916
      @j.j1916 4 года назад +169

      Absolute chadetto
      "I saw a table with 4 girls... and I slept with all 4 of them lmao"

    • @balanceherosmt7170
      @balanceherosmt7170 Год назад

      @@j.j1916 Even better if it was a foursome

  • @lolwut2434
    @lolwut2434 4 года назад +4261

    Huh, pretty rare for a female vtuber to just outright be all “lol I’m not a virgin.”

    • @kennichigatchalian6710
      @kennichigatchalian6710 4 года назад +837

      They aren't Hololive members where the talents holds a title of "Idol"

    • @Burneth_
      @Burneth_ 4 года назад +102

      @pisher259 same, prefer it that way

    • @arqueiroXD
      @arqueiroXD 4 года назад +337

      @@kennichigatchalian6710 We say that Hololive is crazy...but the Niji girls are on another tier.

    • @chrisboelens2640
      @chrisboelens2640 4 года назад +573

      Thank god Ichikara is a much better company than Cover corp in that regard. Screw idol culture. Just let them be themselves and speak about the obvious truths (like having had relations, not being a virgin etc)

    • @kennichigatchalian6710
      @kennichigatchalian6710 4 года назад +427

      Besides gen 0 the girls auditioned to be Idols, they preferred having more privacy with their lives, 2434 is a Virtual streamer agency, while Hololive is an Virtual Idol Agency, no use comparing them since they were different from the start. It's only been a while that Hololive is becoming more Streamer like with just a hint of Idols, and I hope in the future it will develop to the point Holostars can collab openly with them without backlash from the Unicorns.

  • @NotSoMelancholy
    @NotSoMelancholy 4 года назад +3237

    “How many people have you slept with?”
    >How many breads have you eaten?

    • @conq1273
      @conq1273 4 года назад +70

      Gundooooooooo

    • @zomyaalt6565
      @zomyaalt6565 4 года назад +76

      did i mention im suffering from severe malnutrition and poverty and live in a place with no bread

    • @user-not-found680
      @user-not-found680 4 года назад +3

      Bruh

    • @mksk4395
      @mksk4395 4 года назад +38

      @@zomyaalt6565 that explains why you have internet connection and the time to watch vtubers talking about their sexuality

    • @cleanStr
      @cleanStr 4 года назад +5

      Sleep means to "woohoo" activity? Or just sleep nothin happened?

  • @hynterlads
    @hynterlads 4 года назад +4690

    This is actually very nice, seeing a vtuber, openly sapphic, talks about sexualities in a way that it's not just so people have something to stare on, but an actual serious discussion casually (does this makes sense..?). This feels to nice, I don't know how many times I should say this(lol). Thank you for the translations!

    • @hynterlads
      @hynterlads 4 года назад +148

      Tubble Stop “something to stare on” as in “she’s only talking about it so people have something to fantasize about(fanservice)”

    • @hynterlads
      @hynterlads 4 года назад +163

      @@tubblestop414 my mistake, i think i should rephrase my words better. I meant "fan service" in a negative connotation in which a lot of people meant by "for people who fetishize wlw relationships".

    • @verdantmischief7092
      @verdantmischief7092 4 года назад +67

      I admire her bravery

    • @Sluppie
      @Sluppie 4 года назад +30

      It was a nice insight into a completely different world from my own.

    • @bash33p
      @bash33p 4 года назад +94

      I totally agree! and knowing how many anime fans (and all the industry tbh) is being lgbtq+ is mostly fetishized so i'm happy someone addresses this topic like a normal and serious talk yknow?

  • @Necroneer
    @Necroneer 4 года назад +3008

    This was actually really educational, love how she lost count of the number of people she's slept with, didn't think she was gonna answer after the silence, guess she was counting.

    • @172satoshi
      @172satoshi 4 года назад +213

      Gundou's a total chad

    • @digitalyoutuber154
      @digitalyoutuber154 4 года назад +54

      I personally thought it was a bit gross.

    • @HAJIMEDJ
      @HAJIMEDJ 4 года назад +223

      @@digitalyoutuber154 yeah honestly, that's not of anyone's business. Even as friends, imo, you don't really ask how many people you've had sex with, let alone asking a complete stranger

    • @montanarose4622
      @montanarose4622 4 года назад +52

      hajimedj you have boring friends then. Where I’m from, sex talk among friends is VERY open.

    • @booates
      @booates 4 года назад +21

      @@montanarose4622 shes not your friend

  • @michaelc.4321
    @michaelc.4321 4 года назад +1597

    Everyone talking about her being bi and shit. I’m just concerned by the fact she’s leaving floating trees

    • @hat7475
      @hat7475 4 года назад +147

      worrying about the true concerning things here

    • @wolfmonster1317
      @wolfmonster1317 4 года назад +42

      IKR?!

    • @bubbles000
      @bubbles000 4 года назад +56

      Makes sense for many closeted lesbians or bi people etc. ... it’s so rare for someone to be so casual about it. To hear about it so openly meant a lot to me ☺️. Not for fanservice or a joke, it was really nice to hear 👍

    • @marshalljohnson6976
      @marshalljohnson6976 4 года назад +14

      IKR! That bothers me A LOT!

    • @fchr0099
      @fchr0099 4 года назад +5

      Aeroponics

  • @kelnhide
    @kelnhide 4 года назад +1175

    I love how when she brought it up to Ichikara, the company just went all "why would that be a problem?"

    • @rigierish3807
      @rigierish3807 4 года назад +172

      when you see what happened with the lgbt community in Japan those last decades, it would be understandable that it would be a problem (not being it but talking about it during a stream)

    • @rigierish3807
      @rigierish3807 4 года назад +29

      @@tubblestop414what?

    • @jutton11
      @jutton11 4 года назад +95

      Tubble Stop How is homosexuality even remotely similar to incest?

    • @Polyfron
      @Polyfron 4 года назад +43

      J B Tibble Stop is probs a troll, based on his activity in this comment section so far.

    • @giantdad1661
      @giantdad1661 4 года назад +67

      Homosexuality is extremely frowned upon by most Japanese. So for Nijisanji to say that must mean there's been some improvement. Not a lot but a little.

  • @saidrew1030
    @saidrew1030 4 года назад +3723

    Gundou is a lesbian!? That means my chances with her went from 0% to 1% with her, right? I like those odds

    • @ianwells7916
      @ianwells7916 4 года назад +631

      Based on the numbers she pulls, its just a matter of finding that bar she goes to.

    • @saidrew1030
      @saidrew1030 4 года назад +336

      @@ianwells7916 time to do some research

    • @IncredibleMD
      @IncredibleMD 4 года назад +131

      She literally said she's bisexual.

    • @saidrew1030
      @saidrew1030 4 года назад +296

      @@IncredibleMD she said she's not sure if she's bi but she thinks she may be. Either way, still looks good for me 🤩

    • @jimby7080
      @jimby7080 4 года назад +91

      @@IncredibleMD she literally said she's never been in love with a guy.

  • @hamiltonianmarkovchainmc
    @hamiltonianmarkovchainmc 4 года назад +1522

    Therapist: Female Chad Thundercock isn't real.
    Female Chad:

    • @youraveragegamer8832
      @youraveragegamer8832 3 года назад +32

      Chad ThunderClit

    • @blee-bleep3906
      @blee-bleep3906 Год назад +6

      @@youraveragegamer8832 this is so funny but please never comment again 😭

    • @youraveragegamer8832
      @youraveragegamer8832 Год назад +7

      @@blee-bleep3906 Too late. I've been spreading my cursed comments everywhere for the past year

  • @RockSolitude
    @RockSolitude 4 года назад +1205

    "I still think its hard to find a partner..."
    "Slept with all four of them"
    *talks like "meeting" potential partners is easy*
    *lost count the number of people she's slept with*
    Yeah, I think she's doing far better than most straight people.

    • @CartoonHangout
      @CartoonHangout 4 года назад +30

      Yep. I have had only 3 relationships, all failures. And all 6+ years ago lol. So she's doing really good considering.

    • @shoutenry
      @shoutenry 4 года назад +186

      In gay communities it's generally easy to get laid, but hard to get into a long steady relationship.

    • @koromoro6682
      @koromoro6682 4 года назад +127

      I think what she means is it’s harder to find other wlw near her. Like, her having slept with all four of those ladies was more of a testament to how small the circle of wlw in her area was.
      I remember seeing something about how it sucks being a lesbian in a rural area because there’s only 3 other lesbians nearby, two of which are dating each other, and the other one being your ex. I think that was the struggle she was talking about

    • @koo-core7274
      @koo-core7274 4 года назад +16

      @@shoutenry maybe with gay men, definitely not lesbians. its hard to even find lesbians, it is harder to spot them vs their male counterparts, and it feels like they have some secret lesbian society that only a few people know about.

    • @ddshocktrooper5604
      @ddshocktrooper5604 3 года назад +18

      @@koo-core7274 They definitely do have secret lesbian societies. I was part of one during my uni years. Which is weird considering I'm male, but don't sweat the details, I was just there for the food. Made some cool friends.

  • @LN-3000
    @LN-3000 4 года назад +458

    oH. so that’s why kaoru seta always calls girls her "neko-chan,” she’s just saying “hello bottoms”

  • @lonelytuning
    @lonelytuning 4 года назад +572

    as a bi girl with a pretty heavy female lean, it’s awesome to see a vtuber talk about sexuality so openly. i’ll totally have to check out her future streams, she seems incredibly chill. it’s really interesting to hear her talk about her experiences as a lesbian!

  • @tigerfestivals5137
    @tigerfestivals5137 4 года назад +283

    It's refreshing to hear about actual dynamics with bi or lesbian relationships (at least casual ones in this case) in Japan. A lot of vtubers will tease each other about being lesbian and fans will ship them and such but there's rarely an honest conversation like this one.

    • @nguyentienchung9913
      @nguyentienchung9913 3 года назад +25

      Because gay baiting is a staple in Japanese entertainment, both yuri and BL. Most of them are posers and not actually gay themselves.

  • @yoursonisold8743
    @yoursonisold8743 4 года назад +537

    I saw this a long time ago already, but it just reminds me again how real Gundou is. Her language is precise, her experiences clear and candid. She knows the specific terms of the community and mentions things people who are just baiting wouldnt even understand. Although Gundou is also an entertainer and does often exaggerate things (god her recent collab with Hoshikawa was kind of stomach churning), she also has a very clear identity. At the point in time of this stream there were basically no other Vtubers who were out of the closet. She is an absolute forerunner in that regard.
    I dont care whether the whole GunKan things is real. She said she has no romantic interest in men, but as with any bisexual, a certain experience can change perspective on many matters. Either way she is still the same Gundou she was back then. I feel sympathy for her because her relationships never work out. It can be heartbreaking, it can be discouraging. Yet she sounds not bitter at all. My respect.

    • @roadent217
      @roadent217 4 года назад +40

      @Adam Evans
      And what might they be, exactly?

    • @maddie-xk2uv
      @maddie-xk2uv 4 года назад +24

      Adam Evans what are you even saying??

    • @vinny-gq6nz
      @vinny-gq6nz 4 года назад +6

      @Adam Evans is the problem that she's too good for anyone? Because yeah 😔

    • @giantdad1661
      @giantdad1661 4 года назад +5

      She's confident in who she is. I can respect that. She takes pride in herself and that makes her a beautiful person.

    • @giantdad1661
      @giantdad1661 4 года назад +1

      @Adam Evans Can honestly agree with that tbh..half of the problem may lie with her.

  • @sulthanms305
    @sulthanms305 4 года назад +1039

    GunKan fans : wait,Gundou sensei is bisexual ?
    veteran gundou fans : always has been *shot GunKan fans*

    • @goodloser80
      @goodloser80 4 года назад +23

      I recently got into Gundou...and yeah this was a surprise to me

    • @ndr6961
      @ndr6961 4 года назад +12

      Wouldn’t that means she likes guys and girls?

    • @goodloser80
      @goodloser80 4 года назад +75

      @@ndr6961 but she's taking the initiative with girls so she's more on the lesbian side

    • @lyubit9841
      @lyubit9841 4 года назад +149

      @@ndr6961 ​ If you have to throw labels around as people love to do with something as weird as human sexuality, she seems like she'd be Bisexual with a Female Preference.

    • @aerenntyne1099
      @aerenntyne1099 4 года назад +6

      I believe she does like some guys...but primarily 2D, I might be wrong but that's the impression I have of her

  • @bitarctic4859
    @bitarctic4859 4 года назад +1070

    as a bi person, incredibly refreshing when to hear this talked about openly and without any stipulations thrown in. just a true, genuine talk about her experiences as a lesbian.
    i enjoy her mentioning the niji management being perfectly fine with it. i do like the hololive talents, but they will never be able to shake the idol trappings and ensuing management oversight. i mention this because some of the girls legitimatly seem to be, at the very least, not hetero, but theyll never be able to say it. girl-girl relationships are only okay as a tool to increase viewer counts, but if they were allowed to come out, well then the idol purists are pissed because their incel ass delusions of "having a chance" are crushed.
    this isnt a purely hololive issue per se. my absolute favorite vtuber is amano pikamee, and from her group, VOMs theres also tomoshika, who constantly talks of her love for pika... the problem is its hard to tell if she actually, truly likes pikamee in that romantic sense, and not just as a dynamic meant to appeal to viewers. i want to have faith since the VOMs girls have said theyre individuals and should be treated as one would treat independents, but you never know.
    not being forced to wonder if representation is just fanservice is a real blessing...

    • @hamiltonianmarkovchainmc
      @hamiltonianmarkovchainmc 4 года назад +9

      They do have a chance. The incels have seen Back Street Girls. They know what they must do but do they have the resolve?

    • @axelleon67
      @axelleon67 4 года назад +72

      I feel u on this (Mostly from just hearing Marine stories) but I feel like they'll never be able to truly express how they feel and who they are by all means should they while the Antis and idol fans would just lose their minds i feel like especially here in the west their fans would not only accept them and love them even more the drive in like I said pairing shipping etc would just boost them so high in popularity sadly Cover just doesn't want to upset its "core fanbase"

    • @amatsukauto1178
      @amatsukauto1178 4 года назад +1

      @@axelleon67 you mean Marine still a lesbian ? I thought she ended up straight after graduation

    • @HAJIMEDJ
      @HAJIMEDJ 4 года назад +80

      @@amatsukauto1178 Lol, no way. From the way how I hear her talk about it, my guess is that she's also bi but with a large bias towards women. I've never really heard her swoon over some dude. On the contrary, it's always "oppai this" and "oppai that". And Matsuri has always been openly les

    • @Reydotcom
      @Reydotcom 4 года назад +52

      @@HAJIMEDJ Matsuri is bi, even more so than Marine. Matsuri has talked about guys before, Marine hasn't.

  • @FugiYo
    @FugiYo 4 года назад +279

    People are asking how she can talk about these things casually..
    I mean she's just gotten to a point in life where she's okay with talking about it with viewers.
    Life advice: You'll eventually get used to talking about it. Whatever that it is or are, doesn't really matter because again, you'll get used to talking about it.

    • @dipucena1049
      @dipucena1049 4 года назад +3

      She spends 12 hrs everyday streaming for more than a year.it is bound to happen sooner or later.

    • @yoursonisold8743
      @yoursonisold8743 4 года назад +16

      I think that is an overgeneralization. In many cases coming out has averse consequences. You cant just say that you will get used talking about it, because in many cases you have nobody you can talk to it about. There are 40 year old lesbians in the closet out there for a reason.

    • @olgierdvoneverec4135
      @olgierdvoneverec4135 4 года назад +8

      Not everybody gets used to talking about taboo topics like sexualty, let alone non hetero ones, and even less as a public figure working for a company like her.
      We're making strides towards a society that just lets people explore themselves freely, but for now not everyone can discuss these topics like she did. A big part of what LGBTQ+ comunities are trying to change.

    • @anari234
      @anari234 4 года назад +2

      @@dipucena1049 Isn't she a fulltime teacher?

  • @chowderboiosu
    @chowderboiosu 4 года назад +269

    "I look to the table on the right with four girls and I've slept with all of them"

  • @CapemanProducti0ns
    @CapemanProducti0ns 4 года назад +581

    "I slept with all four of them"
    My poor virgin heart can't take this.

    • @ceshmate1953
      @ceshmate1953 4 года назад +9

      Well apparently, from a comment up above she slept with 24 in total. However she probably is still single sooooooo she'll probably die single as well :D

    • @piero7tnx
      @piero7tnx 4 года назад +89

      @@ceshmate1953 dude, what?

    • @24no73
      @24no73 4 года назад +24

      at the rate that im going, im bound to be an isekai protag at this point

    • @Jenson139
      @Jenson139 4 года назад +7

      CeshMate What is wrong with you?

    • @Jenson139
      @Jenson139 4 года назад

      Discount Shintaro IKR?

  • @MegaApostel
    @MegaApostel 4 года назад +205

    Damn didn’t knew it
    But she is true that something like in a manga barely happens so Crossick is a real miracle

  • @vtuberdoodles
    @vtuberdoodles Год назад +15

    gone during pride month..... goodbye queen

  • @akhiira2212
    @akhiira2212 4 года назад +136

    Gundou being open about this, Tomoe loving girls and how she said "same sex relationships are not weird!" Also her relationship with Sukoya is self explanatory(check them out yourselves ww), Yamagami talking about how she really really likes the female staff she met while recording, Hayase (ran-neechan) saying she has lots LGBTQ+ friends from her cosplaying circle so she says she won't be surprised IF Sukoya is dating Tomoe. Aizono saying she dated a girl(cosplaying onee-san 👀) once "it's not really something I should hide..."
    Ofc there are more things Nijisanji livers are able to be open about other than sexuality and gay things (which I appreciate btw) and maybe be there are more livers who talked about stuff that I'm not aware of. Overall, this is just one of the reasons why I like the NIJISANJI family so much. Hope they get more recognition overseas.

    • @Haruuuuu02
      @Haruuuuu02 4 года назад +17

      Not only the girls, Akina literally said he wanted to kiss his male coworker (Kanae) on stream.
      I’m glad Nijisanji (the company) allow their member to be themselves and open up to their viewers as they please.

    • @akhiira2212
      @akhiira2212 4 года назад +10

      @@Haruuuuu02 omg 👀 it's the first time I heard about that! That's cool! And yeah it's really the one of the main reasons why I like the livers from NIJISANJI they just feel natural to me and being their genuine selves not like the others who just do things for business (not shading anyone btw). I really wish they get the attention they deserve 😌😔

    • @Haruuuuu02
      @Haruuuuu02 4 года назад +5

      aster I agree, and that’s why they’re fun to watch, because they can mess around and play around, doing stupid things like a bunch of friends without having to worry about restrictions.

    • @kudryfume4667
      @kudryfume4667 4 года назад

      Aizono? Really? You have link?

    • @akhiira2212
      @akhiira2212 4 года назад +4

      @@kudryfume4667 ruclips.net/video/YWgXb65v-sI/видео.html it's around 1:01:13 there are no eng subtitles or translated ones but she basically she did date a girl once

  • @samuelsalvatore4511
    @samuelsalvatore4511 4 года назад +363

    "im lesbian"
    90% of the females v-tubers: 👁👄👁

    • @starz1234-q2m
      @starz1234-q2m 4 года назад +3

      Wut

    • @matt4280
      @matt4280 4 года назад +1

      so what??? I don't understand what's the punchline here? what r u trying to say

    • @samuelsalvatore4511
      @samuelsalvatore4511 4 года назад +4

      @@matt4280 what im trying to say is: it's nothing weird nor surprising if she's lesbian since most of the female v-tubers have (or at least act like they have) a crush on other v-tubers

    • @samuelsalvatore4511
      @samuelsalvatore4511 4 года назад +8

      @@kalprown nothing to do with my comment.

    • @revlo8483
      @revlo8483 4 года назад +6

      @@samuelsalvatore4511 but that's a role for a character they're playing, I may be mistaken but maybe the person behind her is lesbian irl

  • @kemilyroxy
    @kemilyroxy 4 года назад +98

    She is cool, and the management is cool too.

  • @ivybaril9070
    @ivybaril9070 4 года назад +968

    this is a win for every lesbian who watches vtubers. finally

    • @amphioctopus
      @amphioctopus 4 года назад +98

      yeah like 99.9% of the fanbase are straight boys

    • @TouhouGaijin
      @TouhouGaijin 4 года назад +162

      Except this isn't Hololive.

    • @corasundae
      @corasundae 4 года назад +93

      The title says she's Nijisanji, not Hololive.

    • @ivybaril9070
      @ivybaril9070 4 года назад +2

      東方外人 lol

    • @ivybaril9070
      @ivybaril9070 4 года назад +4

      corasundae lol i dont care

  • @HakunonMatata
    @HakunonMatata 4 года назад +63

    I thought she was joking when she said she wanted to go to Hololive to kiss all of the girls
    Turns out she was likely being completely serious

  • @lotteyanson4033
    @lotteyanson4033 4 года назад +97

    There are also lots of boyish lesbians that are just boyish because thats their aesthetic or lifestyle without identifying as a guy in any way, but other than that this whole story was hella cool. Thanks for the representation! Also just wanted to mention that its not necessarily only divided by tachi or neko, but there are also people that are both. These are just some things i wanted to add as a fellow lesbian/bi girl who has never fallen for a guy ^^;

    • @JR-qt8qb
      @JR-qt8qb 4 года назад +3

      Same. Mildly offending to hear her say that shit as a butch lesbian.

    • @miko-nv9cl
      @miko-nv9cl 3 года назад +7

      @@JR-qt8qb To be fair, she was speaking from her perspective of the Japanese LGBTQ+ community, which *is* quite different from the "western" one. Sure, it doesn't make it less offensive, but it's somewhat important to know that it's probably just down to the differences of the "western" and the Japanese LGBTQ+ community rather than pure malice.

  • @1hiyay
    @1hiyay Год назад +10

    I can't believe we lost THE bisexual legend during pride month

  • @molicake0111
    @molicake0111 Год назад +12

    goodbye nijis biggest lesbian 😢 i really enjoyed her stream

  • @ValkyrieTiara
    @ValkyrieTiara Год назад +10

    Here to pay homage to a true legend. SKB will never be the same.

  • @mabithebard
    @mabithebard 4 года назад +392

    Interesting. As a lesbian myself, most people in all the online circles I’m in prefer more masculine women, I guess it’s a cultural difference? And it doesn’t have to mean you’re trans, gender roles don’t correlate with gender after all. Personally I’m nonbinary, lesbianism is my only connection to womanhood. I guess you can think of it this way: calling myself a “woman” feels wrong, I’m definitely not, but calling myself a “women who loves women” feels completely right. It’s only in a lesbian context that I feel somewhat like a “girl”, but in the long term I’m not. Though I doubt this would make sense to a non lesbian.

    • @yoursonisold8743
      @yoursonisold8743 4 года назад +55

      No offense, but I dont think that makes a lot of sense to most lesbians either. Understanding nonbinary is entirely removed from homosexuality. I cant even remotely understand what that is like and I'm trying to be more open-minded than most.
      As for many lesbians prefering butch/masculine girls, well that's certainly a more recent trend as far as I can see. We've already broken out of the old faux gender roles BS where a butch has to love femmes and vice versa, but I do notice that in Japan there are far more femmes in general. And they tend to like femmes more as well. So that might indeed be a cultural thing.

    • @mabithebard
      @mabithebard 4 года назад +76

      Yourson Isold Dont worry I’m not offended, you’re being very respectful about not understanding. There’s actually a lot more nonbinary lesbians than you’d think, a lot of people who understand my experiences. I’ve even seen Japanese nonbinary lesbians on twitter! It’s not all unheard of. It doesn’t have to be removed from homosexuality, but the common misunderstanding is that “nonbinary” always means “neither male nor female”, when all it means is you don’t fit into the strict boxes of “either completely male or completely female”. It means your gender is divergent from that “binary” in some way, so it can mean a lot of things and be very fluid and complex!

    • @moominsocks
      @moominsocks 4 года назад +50

      i think this makes perfect sense to me, because gender doesnt equal sexuality. you can be nonbinary and not coincide with society's gendered roles and still know that you are a lesbian. i am the same way! i mostly use they/them pronouns but in a basic sense, i do present as a girl. i just dont necessarily feel my identity fits in with the binary of woman/man that society has created. i think that's completely understandable because gender roles can be exhausting and more often than not restricting and demeaning. you can totally express your gender freely and know who you're attracted to! i believe nonbinary and trans lesbians have always belonged within this circle. gender and sexuality might cross paths on some occasions, but they dont rely on each other. i can see that this might be confusing for those who dont really question their gender identity much? either way, i do agree that ive seen a lot of lesbians prefer masculine women, at least in my country. but im the opposite, ive always been a femme who prefers other femmes, but its just up to personal preference in the end! :)

    • @healiaquastar
      @healiaquastar 4 года назад +29

      This is one of the best explanations for non-binary lesbians I’ve seen imo

    • @washingmachine4993
      @washingmachine4993 4 года назад +8

      I don't want to be rude but i think a lot of 'non binary' lesbians have some sort of internalised mysogyny going on. It's fine to accept yourself as a woman who's a lesbian, i don't really get why you believe you are not a woman.

  • @Arcterion
    @Arcterion 4 года назад +53

    4:43 -- Gundou the chad.

  • @taro8095
    @taro8095 4 года назад +105

    this makes me incredibly happy to see a popular vtuber who's a wlw (woman-loving-woman).
    as another bisexual girl, we hardly ever see any positive representation. it's always fetishized or hardly spoken about like it's a taboo. to see someone with such a platform discuss it in a positive light? finally treating this sexuality as a normalcy in conversation? i couldn't tell you how brave she is.

  • @StarbitO
    @StarbitO 3 года назад +20

    Most vtubers: "hehe im a kawaii anime girl uwu"
    This lady: "i went to a lesbian bar lol"

    • @adelinah.
      @adelinah. 3 года назад +1

      Looks at Hololive, Nijisanji and Vshojo
      Press x to doubt

  • @Sleepy_Newt
    @Sleepy_Newt 4 года назад +48

    always knew gundou was a mega-chad
    its also really nice hearing a Vtuber openly talk about being LGBT, its nice to feel like who you are isnt some coy secret

  • @Kanchito
    @Kanchito 4 года назад +116

    > Roa-chan is really my type
    ouch :[

    • @dipucena1049
      @dipucena1049 4 года назад +3

      Why ouch?roa is adorable

    • @タマ48
      @タマ48 4 года назад +2

      @@dipucena1049 well dont you know what happen about two of them?

    • @srslykaveh
      @srslykaveh 4 года назад +3

      @@タマ48 what happened ?

    • @タマ48
      @タマ48 4 года назад +67

      @@srslykaveh back then mirei and roa are used to be really really close like for real they always do collab stream together all the time especially in minecraft. And belmond is actually quite really close to the both of em too the 3 of em quite often do minecraft collab back then (thats how belmond is close to roa till this day). But suddenly i dont know what happen back then mirei and roa were not close again like they usually did. And back then i watched roa stream and she talk about what happened to her and mirei, she said that while crying she is afraid that maybe or somehow she will just become burden to mirei since mirei was always helping her out and always reach her out. And eventually in one of mirei stream some viewers are asking why mirei didn't do collab anymore with roa and she said that mirei herself are afraid and didn't want to make roa's image become bad since you know what is like mirei (she always doing perverted jokes and everythings) she just doesnt want to make roa's image bad because of her thats why they didn't do any collab stream anymore till this day.
      Thats all i hope my explanation are clear enough since my english is not really that well.

    • @タマ48
      @タマ48 4 года назад +6

      @@srslykaveh and all of this thing happened quiete a long time ago around almost 1 and half year ago if im not mistaken

  • @Ruki1411
    @Ruki1411 4 года назад +35

    gundou-sensei bless us with some knowledge about lesbian world :">
    btw, i think in SKB, gundou is the one with most experience, and the one with no exp is ange xD

  • @Pyrobaconstudios
    @Pyrobaconstudios 4 года назад +21

    Dang, she's brave.(particularly when you consider japan's.. not quite there yet in regards to gay rights/general acceptance of people of different orientations though it's getting better ofcourse and then you couple that with vtubers tending to get harassed for ever daring to have a romantic connection to anyone because of obsessive creeps) Props to her just being so casual about it.

    • @jackb450
      @jackb450 3 года назад +1

      That's mostly hololive due to their idol title, nijisanji doesn't have that (for the most part)

  • @ZigZagKangaroo
    @ZigZagKangaroo 4 года назад +14

    I tried really hard to keep up with the lesbian terms but it's still really hard.
    I respect her for being so open about being a lesbian.

  • @clairavoyant1212
    @clairavoyant1212 4 года назад +14

    Mirei knows that the really girly girls in dresses and stockings are massive tops

  • @NekoUrabe
    @NekoUrabe 4 года назад +17

    Everyone talking about how wild this reveal is and im like bruh her voice sounds so different when she isnt going "NEEEE!" or messing around with the other members xD

  • @Angrarim
    @Angrarim 4 года назад +12

    Shout out to her IRL students that know her both as their teacher and Gundou Mirei tho.

  • @ShinichiroKururugi
    @ShinichiroKururugi 4 года назад +11

    Big props to Ichikara respecting people of different sexual orientations and Mirei for opening discussions about deeper and more personal gender topics.

  • @aenoire
    @aenoire 4 года назад +8

    It's even harder to find someone the older you get, and girls think you're being friendly when you're trying to flirt. And I can definitely tell she's a top ahaha. But yeah. For me I was a late bloomer, didn't have my first kiss until 18, and didn't even know until after high school..

  • @SweetLitzLM
    @SweetLitzLM 4 года назад +13

    they have bracelets to separate tops and bottoms, they are living in the future

  • @lordofgangstas
    @lordofgangstas 4 года назад +105

    “What happened to GunKan?”
    “Gone, reduced to ashes.”

    • @aberrationeech.1838
      @aberrationeech.1838 4 года назад

      My thoughts hahajau

    • @rigierish3807
      @rigierish3807 4 года назад

      but don't be desperate, there is still hope, she didn't said she wasn't into guys, so there is a chance... a slight chance but still a chance !

    • @alianar.d.8724
      @alianar.d.8724 4 года назад +23

      I mean she said she was bi not full on lesbian lmao. I feel like she just has a large preference for girls, and is more comfortable with talking about girls. I'm also like this so its not that we don't like guys, we just don't like/talk about them as much.

    • @gamechannel1271
      @gamechannel1271 4 года назад

      @@rigierish3807 She basically admitted that she sleeps around, she's not the type of person to get attached. Even if she hooks up with Kanda (probably has already if it ever was going to happen), it would be short-lived.

    • @rigierish3807
      @rigierish3807 4 года назад

      @@gamechannel1271 Yeah, I just said that for kidding, but I saw some information about her, and indeed, when I see with how much she slept with, I can't but agree with what you said

  • @Bakatora04
    @Bakatora04 4 года назад +60

    Don't you love how people miss the date of the stream this clip is from and the fact that she mention she bi multiple times.

    • @kudryfume4667
      @kudryfume4667 4 года назад +2

      Yes, and?

    • @Anisarian
      @Anisarian 4 года назад +27

      I mean afaik she's also mentioned she's only sexually attracted to men, not romantically, in her bio which is why she refers to herself as both bi and a lesbian.

    • @Anisarian
      @Anisarian 4 года назад +7

      @It gets better m.facebook.com/VYkusa/posts/499248450782558
      This is the post I found it mentioned, I haven't been able to find the specifics being mentioned bc my Japanese is not strong enough to go archive diving, but its consistent with her statements here

    • @carloscedillos9407
      @carloscedillos9407 4 года назад +5

      @It gets better It was never alive from the beginning, but yeah i think it is, to be honest that was the main reason i watched both of them, i won't say i do not watch any of them now, im not judging of course to each their own, its like why would you watch a romance anime when somebody already spoiled you that the MC is gonna be alone at the end...you get me?

    • @00Kalypso
      @00Kalypso 4 года назад +31

      @@carloscedillos9407 i can't for the life of me understand you people shipping vtubers, even less when your shipping is the only reason you actually watched them. Like at the end of the day these are people, not anime characters. Do you watch twitch streamers hoping they'll bone someday? ...idk maybe the wrong approach is mine but i just watch them as personalities and game streamers. You don't even know what they actually look like or are like irl, whats your ''ship'' based on lmao. Point proven by the fact that mirei doesn't even like men yet 90% of the shippers either choose to ignore the fact or flat out don't know kek

  • @WillowMeow
    @WillowMeow 4 года назад +13

    This is a quick change from when she's usually around Kanda

    • @dafaqu694
      @dafaqu694 4 года назад +5

      She usually compose when she does stream by herself
      But whenever she with kanda, she became like thst

  • @jive7391
    @jive7391 4 года назад +166

    So that's why GunKan can only be friends.

    • @Yu-uk9nu
      @Yu-uk9nu 4 года назад +10

      I only just found out. I'm a bit sad they'll only be friends.. but well, each to his own

    • @Prodigi50
      @Prodigi50 4 года назад +40

      I mean... she’s Bisexual with a preference for girls. She could still end up falling for a guy and it wouldn’t contradict anything she’s said.

    • @jheyderbismarcklopezartavi3834
      @jheyderbismarcklopezartavi3834 4 года назад +8

      @@Prodigi50 She is Bi, and she has slept with many people mostly woman but it can be also males, so.... Kanda is a man, she and Kanda are close... In my head they already did it and no one can change my mind in that. IT'S CANON

    • @Prodigi50
      @Prodigi50 4 года назад +8

      @@jheyderbismarcklopezartavi3834 Lol. I wouldn’t take it that far but their dynamic is WAY too couple-like for me to accept that they’re just friends. Especially when Kanda can so easily fluster her when she’s quite experienced with relationships.

    • @gamechannel1271
      @gamechannel1271 4 года назад +13

      @@Prodigi50 Sexual experience and relationship experience are two different things. Sounds to me like she's had a lot of what equates to one night stands.

  • @JoaquinNSanchez
    @JoaquinNSanchez 4 года назад +25

    i learned a lot from the video, and its really cool both ichikara and the public has an open minded attitude towars these themes

  • @idontcheckmynotifsdontboth7753
    @idontcheckmynotifsdontboth7753 4 года назад +15

    Title: on being a lesbian
    Her: I’m bi

    • @Mr.Fudanshi
      @Mr.Fudanshi 3 года назад +3

      Lesbians tend to get more views then us bi people

  • @lori47
    @lori47 4 года назад +10

    THIS IS A W FOR THE LESBIANS WOOOO

  • @sevenover42
    @sevenover42 2 года назад +3

    damn the "boy tachi" and "fem tachi" talk, i am glad it's universal lmao it's hard

  • @noairtime
    @noairtime 4 года назад +29

    Surprisingly civil comments here.
    As for why Roa is Gundou's type, there's a reason why Lulu ended up kissing Roa ;)

    • @Kusamancer
      @Kusamancer 4 года назад +15

      I remember seeing a translated video about that, it happened at some live show that Nijisanji had. At that same show, Lulu asked to and received permission from Gibara to lift her skirt and look at her panties. Honestly, Lulu seems a lot more cultured than I think most people realize. But yeah from what Lulu said, Roa is apparently really cute in person.

  • @milloey
    @milloey 4 года назад +5

    Hoshikawa: Chotto matte, what about gunkan?
    Veteran Gundou fans: Gone, reduced to atoms.

  • @birdontheinternet
    @birdontheinternet 3 года назад +5

    "What's your body count?"
    *intense contemplation* "I lost count"
    What an absolute chad

  • @Pokemaster-wg9gx
    @Pokemaster-wg9gx 4 года назад +6

    Meanwhile the women from the story that just happened to be watching her for some reason “i knew that voice sounded familiar”

  • @himekoyakuza1750
    @himekoyakuza1750 4 года назад +23

    So if I'm going to the bar she goes, I can meet her? Interesting 👀

    • @riechan3650
      @riechan3650 4 года назад +4

      Lemme join you, my ghei fren. 😌

    • @yoursonisold8743
      @yoursonisold8743 4 года назад +1

      If you can find the right bar in Tokyo maybe. Good luck with that lol

    • @kennymuliamin2631
      @kennymuliamin2631 4 года назад +1

      @@yoursonisold8743 tbh lez bars are so rare you might find at most 10 of them at a certain vicinity within Tokyo... Kind of dangerous lol

    • @yoursonisold8743
      @yoursonisold8743 4 года назад +1

      @@kennymuliamin2631 Oh I know they are hidden, but it's all about knowing where to look. Tokyo has quite a strong scene actually, compared to most of the rest of the country. Only place that compares is Osaka.

  • @anakin148
    @anakin148 4 года назад +138

    ok, I love that she is able to talk about this topics freely. I don't like it when they are shown as taboo or as something that doesn't exist (like when some people say they are just joking). And I love that she uses specific words like lesbian, gay, and transgender, instead of stuff like "crossdressing" or "bl" or "yuri", bc I think these other terms are kind of downplaying real experiences of real people and labeling as just a kink.
    Anyway, thank you for the translation and for the introduction to Gundou Mirei :)

    • @dafaqu694
      @dafaqu694 4 года назад +19

      Crossdresser and transgender are a whole different thing tbh

    • @narudayo5053
      @narudayo5053 4 года назад +10

      why do you writed crossdresser? Crossdressing has nothing to do with lgbt or your sexual orientation. It's just mean that you wear opposite gender clothes not that you want to transition to the opposite gender it's not the same thing.

    • @yoursonisold8743
      @yoursonisold8743 4 года назад +26

      @@narudayo5053 That's their point. People who just look at it as fetishes dont understand the difference and misuse terms.

    • @narudayo5053
      @narudayo5053 4 года назад +2

      @@yoursonisold8743since. It's has no need to be pointed here. Maybe the words futanari or shemale but not crossdressing.

    • @rigierish3807
      @rigierish3807 4 года назад +5

      ​@@narudayo5053 well, it is pretty related, as transgender are people whose their gender identity doesn't match with their biological gender, and crossdressing is a practice which consist in wearing clothes that are not associated with the gender's person doing it. So, one doesn't imply the other one but it's not like it "has nothing to do with lgbt or your sexual orientation".

  • @Catherine_Ea
    @Catherine_Ea 4 года назад +13

    I watched it all with a silly smile on my face and at some point, I felt my eyes watering.
    I don't know. I think it is the first time I hear a wlw - bisexual especially - talking so casually, candidly, and truthfully about her dating experience. I had a certain image about how wlw dating would go, but it was built by the internet so I hardly trusted it, so yes, this was definitely nice, to hear someone with similar tastes, that hasn't content focused on the community - you know, someone you do not expect to talk about it-, talk about this, and like that. The experience made me genuinely happy and my heart lighter.
    I think this is my favorite vtuber clip.

  • @ALiteralLamp
    @ALiteralLamp 3 года назад +2

    I always love coming back to this video and hearing her stories

  • @cwxc
    @cwxc 4 года назад +16

    That Chitose popping made me skip a beat :'( Thanks for the translation !

    • @hepburnromanization2024
      @hepburnromanization2024 4 года назад +2

      Same ma fren...glad shes doin good now

    • @dorian4646
      @dorian4646 4 года назад

      @@hepburnromanization2024 dont forget to check her new song guys 😉

  • @foafster
    @foafster 4 года назад +18

    as a lesbian, it's a pretty nice change of pace to see vtubers talking openly about this stuff, ESPECIALLY trans people. most of the time, lgbt stuff is either teased for the sake of shipping or ignored entirely.

  • @yudhaadrian47
    @yudhaadrian47 4 года назад +25

    I just realized Japanese often refers Lesbians for either "Lez" or "Bian". I wonder what's the difference tho... 🤔

    • @yudhaadrian47
      @yudhaadrian47 4 года назад +2

      @Adam Evans I see. Somehow I have a feeling that I've heard this somewhere before. Maybe from one of the many vtuber clips, but I can't remember which one... Thanks. 🙏

  • @LyrinaeSings
    @LyrinaeSings 2 года назад +2

    Wow, thank you for clipping and translating. It's really interesting to see how different and unique lesbian culture is in japan :o

  • @rizqeenurhani3683
    @rizqeenurhani3683 4 года назад +7

    As much as we want gunkan to happen. The fact is they are colleges and if they date and broke up it could cause awkwardnes in the air

  • @GG-no8ec
    @GG-no8ec Год назад +2

    ive never seen a JP vtuber actually talk about sexuality without tiptoeing around it before. this is really relieving, somehow

  • @gamalielbontilao3679
    @gamalielbontilao3679 Год назад +6

    We lost such an extremely based individual

  • @00Kalypso
    @00Kalypso 4 года назад +71

    Kinda saddens me that asia in general is still at the level that people will ask you if you want to become a man when hearing you're a lesbian. The weeb demographic that watches these vtubers is also full of such bigots, even in the west. This comment section is surprisingly mostly civil but there's some in here too. Gotta admire her for saying of all of this to such an audience, knowing she might lose sub counts over it. Especially since the shippers weirdos make up a big part of her fanbase

    • @inoueokaito
      @inoueokaito 4 года назад +8

      Space Cats there is the fact media and news talk and feature more of transgenders or crossdressing entertainers rather than homosexuality itself or normal cis gay people so i'm afraid the image people have on the word gay is immediately transgenders cause that's what they are accustomed to seeing, the fact she can openly express herself with her audience shows how much she trust her fans which is pretty cool

    • @armorparade
      @armorparade 4 года назад +11

      they ask people this in America too what's this about "Asia" lol
      don't make weird assumptions about things when you don't know anything
      there certainly are serious issues gay and trans ppl in japan but do not speak for them if you are ignorant to their struggles
      as an american i don't want anyone speaking for me and taking pity on me if they can't understand what we put up with here lol

  • @GabrielGabriel101
    @GabrielGabriel101 4 года назад +3

    WHAT omg I’m so glad I found her, as a lesbian I’m so happy to have found a vtuber who shares her experiences so casually. I’m sure she’ll be my favorite vtuber now. Lesbians and sapphics truly have won this time✨

  • @ayakid921
    @ayakid921 3 года назад +4

    lesbian CHAD doesn't remember her body count. I Stan

  • @Mamiya645
    @Mamiya645 4 года назад +34

    So when's Marine + Gundou offcollab

  • @leenexx9203
    @leenexx9203 3 года назад +3

    I'm so happy that she can talk about her sexuality freely and no one judges her especially that we all know vtuber community consists of mostly males.

  • @lethimdohisworkforyou1177
    @lethimdohisworkforyou1177 3 года назад +6

    Everyone just needs to accept that she loves women,I don't known why people are digging this up so much.

  • @財帽子
    @財帽子 4 года назад +1

    海外だと更に捉え方が違う人もいてコメントを見てて面白い
    2次元だからこそ越えれる壁があるんですね

  • @ulcydia4553
    @ulcydia4553 4 года назад +16

    none of this surprised me tbh. but the thing i found funny was how when she talked about reply of ichikara, she sounded exactly like kuzuha and all i could think was damn kuzuha is high up in the hierarchy

    • @nonsensicalabyss
      @nonsensicalabyss 4 года назад

      Oh nooo this cracked me up 😭😭😭

    • @ulcydia4553
      @ulcydia4553 4 года назад +3

      @Ace Gonzales nothing really its just that at 8:51 or so when she says iin janai su ka, it sounds like a kuzuha impression

  • @leekmage7946
    @leekmage7946 4 года назад +2

    Ive learned a surprising amount of the Lesbian community in Japan today. How nice.

  • @Carrotspy
    @Carrotspy 4 года назад +8

    Finally some Bi rep in the vtuber community

  • @teddym5349
    @teddym5349 4 года назад +2

    Her voice is so nice! So kind and calming

  • @jocchis
    @jocchis 4 года назад +4

    randomly stumbled upon this video (i dont watch nijisanji, but i watch other vtubers) and i wasnt expecting this random vtuber to say trans rights, i love that for her

    • @Miropup
      @Miropup 3 года назад +1

      Did she? Unless the translation was weird or i completely misunderstood what she meant she kinda just seemed to conflate boyish/butch lesbians with trans men, say its an entirely different world from being a lesbian and move on.

  • @Kukus-xy3gi
    @Kukus-xy3gi 3 года назад +6

    "I lost count"
    If that aint chad material, i dont know what is

  • @reicelestial2478
    @reicelestial2478 3 года назад +4

    This was a pretty interesting insight into the non straight dating scene in Japan

  • @hachikoi2324
    @hachikoi2324 4 года назад +2

    Things aside was pretty fucking awesome that Nijisanji was like: "Eh!m I would I have problems?"

  • @chariot9285
    @chariot9285 4 года назад +9

    queen of being herself

  • @steppecreature9570
    @steppecreature9570 4 года назад +1

    it’s so interesting hearing how different those with different cultures/languages talk about sexuality and gender! especially from this “insider” perspective

  • @starlight444
    @starlight444 4 года назад +5

    I love seeing more sapphics being normal about it ;-; i want a gf too aaa

  • @Marconius6
    @Marconius6 4 года назад +2

    It's good to hear the company was chill about it too. That's probably not true for a lot of idol groups, even today.

    • @shinyhappyrem8728
      @shinyhappyrem8728 4 года назад +1

      Less chance of boy 'trouble' / pregnancy leave ;)

  • @stelrock2
    @stelrock2 4 года назад +3

    ah, i love finding sapphic vtubers.

  • @yopi_yopi
    @yopi_yopi 4 года назад +2

    This is so precious to see her share about it so openly 😻
    It's also super interesting to hear about gay bars in Japan. I'm not surprised she would know most people there... It's not easy to be gay and live a tranquil open life abd meet many fellow lesbians, but in Japan? It sounds really rough...
    It also sounds like NB and trans peeps go there because Japan is not the best place to accept them outside of those bars heh? You could meet bi people anyway in there! I'm also happy she's accepted in her workplace as far as we know.
    Thrive, lesbian queen.

  • @youngblood1352
    @youngblood1352 3 года назад +4

    *Imagine telling "I lost count"*
    🤣🤣😄😃😌😟

  • @jjju3
    @jjju3 4 года назад +2

    I dont know why I keep getting anime girl twitch streamers in my recommended but I did learn an interesting lesson abt queer culture in Japan so I'll live with it

  • @Rachel-Pham
    @Rachel-Pham Год назад +3

    shes so real for this

  • @baniboo
    @baniboo 4 года назад +2

    Nijisanji sure is a place with kind people

  • @lostbebi
    @lostbebi 4 года назад +8

    i love people like this being open about their sexuality, we all need it in this society

  • @ChronicalV
    @ChronicalV 4 года назад +1

    I'm glad she never holds back on talking about things like this
    I also like her gentle teacher voice while she explains things

  • @joshuasama2233
    @joshuasama2233 4 года назад +3

    Even their dating system is organized.

  • @guisseppimelon8224
    @guisseppimelon8224 4 года назад +4

    Omg that’s such an inefficient digging method

  • @Cueballx
    @Cueballx 4 года назад +3

    Thanks for the translation

  • @darlinglove7602
    @darlinglove7602 3 года назад

    super super interesting tyvm. tbh most of the clips of gundou i watch she's yelling at the top of her lungs, so it's so interesting seeing her as like, a proper adult. i get a totally different impression her now, she must be really cool irl.