The real cost of smart speakers

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  • Опубликовано: 27 дек 2020
  • Alexa's recording you. What’s she doing with it?
    Read Sara’s article about the privacy settings on your smart speaker: www.vox.com/recode/2020/12/9/...
    Correction: At 0:58, we mistakenly suggest that every 1 in 5 American households has a smart speaker. In fact, over one-third of U.S. adults has a smart speaker. We regret the error.
    In 2014, Amazon debuted a simple but industry-changing product: the smart speaker. Technically the Amazon Echo was just a microphone attached to the internet that you installed in your home. But it let users ask a digital assistant, Alexa, thousands of questions and commands, and it was a hit. Before long, Google and Apple followed with their own smart speakers, and today, a device that began as a curiosity has become commonplace: one in five US households now owns a smart speaker.
    Smart speakers offer convenience; much of their popularity can simply be chalked up to that. But tech companies are also clearly pushing the technology onto consumers hard, sometimes selling smart speakers at rock-bottom prices, and building the “listening” technology that drives them into all sorts of other products, from headphones to doorbells. And a big reason for that is all the data that they produce.
    Just like our web searches, online purchases, and social networks, every command you give to a smart speaker is a new piece of data that tech companies own. Most likely, your voice recordings are already being used for improving those companies’ listening algorithms and ad targeting, but there’s very little transparency and no way to know exactly how they use human voice data. All we really know is that these devices have enabled their manufacturers to collect gigantic troves of voice recordings - and that opting out of it isn’t always easy.
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Комментарии • 2 тыс.

  • @Vox
    @Vox  3 года назад +131

    Recode by Vox uncovers and explains how our digital world is changing - and changing us. Subscribe to our daily newsletter to keep up: events.recode.net/newsletters/subscribe/

    • @dasoulfoodbuffet
      @dasoulfoodbuffet 3 года назад +3

      I'm currently learning how to live off-grid in a van or tinyhome away from this mentally-enslaved society. I for one refuse to allow my life to be enslaved by corporations and "convenience", because when there's profit behind the convenience offered to us, there's always a very big catch. And if you think they are worth trusting, and their catches are worth it, then they've got you right where they want you: in a state of ignorance.

    • @BuddyL
      @BuddyL 3 года назад +1

      Can you folks do a video about modern 🖥 *STILL* doesn't get the image right?
      From studios releasing re-cropped images (pan-and-scan has been replaced by "stretched" 4x3 images and cropped _Simpsons_ episodes) to 🖥 manufacturers making motion-smoothing a default setting, why can't any get aspect ratios and frame rates correct?
      For that matter, why have classic _Twilight Zone_ episodes had motion-smoothing added to them on Syfy? 🤢

    • @impossibleanimations1584
      @impossibleanimations1584 3 года назад +2

      When you don't say ok google does it still track our voices?

    • @alvadrive42
      @alvadrive42 3 года назад +1

      duh

    • @lizasamya7359
      @lizasamya7359 3 года назад

      @William Taubenheim stop it

  • @Ryanp1267
    @Ryanp1267 3 года назад +5776

    If your product is free, you're the product.

    • @fysl305
      @fysl305 3 года назад +75

      Dun dun duuuuuuun

    • @devanshkamdar8244
      @devanshkamdar8244 3 года назад +210

      Echo is not free, but I get your point.

    • @probablynot8154
      @probablynot8154 3 года назад +180

      @@devanshkamdar8244 they're getting as close as possible to it. They're practically giving them away and selling them with really thin margins.

    • @gnomsrepnay
      @gnomsrepnay 3 года назад +9

      Unless it's not for profit and doesn't take much money to maintain

    • @nzf-kx2qol1g12
      @nzf-kx2qol1g12 3 года назад +20

      If it's too good, it's sus

  • @kimjong-un6841
    @kimjong-un6841 3 года назад +7292

    We don't need those surveillance devices in my country lol.

    • @werid_kid2967
      @werid_kid2967 3 года назад +153

      The real G

    • @lanceong1499
      @lanceong1499 3 года назад +125

      because you are already the best commander

    • @tom20001229
      @tom20001229 3 года назад +100

      I like your cut, G.

    • @raajpalsinhchudasama4427
      @raajpalsinhchudasama4427 3 года назад +11

      Ohh My! 🙇🙇Jon'gyŏnghanŭn Jidoja, supreme leader, its you.....

    • @moons6725
      @moons6725 3 года назад +17

      Freedom and democracy was created by this god

  • @moorjammin
    @moorjammin 3 года назад +2361

    It’s weird that they’re so popular, I’ve always found them pretty useless.

    • @DreamyFNSubPlz
      @DreamyFNSubPlz 3 года назад +41

      Same

    • @stevenewton6776
      @stevenewton6776 3 года назад +171

      Seriously, unless your like a ceo trying to manage a billion things at once, it's useless

    • @insertchannelnamehere8685
      @insertchannelnamehere8685 3 года назад +278

      Idk, it's actually pretty nice to be able to play music, listen to the news, and set alarms w/o picking up your phone. Esp when you're trying to go to sleep and you're afraid that picking up your phone will send you into an hours-long hole of social media.
      It's so weird, because after 6 years with my Alexa, whenever I stay at a hotel or go to someone's house, I'll often find myself calling for Alexa only to realize it's not there.
      Idk, there's nothing on Alexa that can't be done in other ways, but I still think it's pretty convenient, esp if you're tired of using your phone. Plus they're so cheap...like cheaper than a regular speaker, so why not get one ( other than privacy concerns ).

    • @kushalupreti509
      @kushalupreti509 3 года назад +2

      Same

    • @bluepeng8895
      @bluepeng8895 3 года назад +6

      I have an Amazon Alexa and Siri and I never use either of those

  • @mookiecookie44
    @mookiecookie44 3 года назад +905

    Every once in a while Vox comes out with a video that really makes me think “there were people who didn’t know this already???”

    • @somebodyelse9130
      @somebodyelse9130 3 года назад +73

      Tbh, the fact that 1 in 5 households have a smart speaker was pretty surprising to me. I didn't realize that they've already gotten that popular.

    • @ausernameiguess7058
      @ausernameiguess7058 3 года назад +6

      ha, same. there wasn't really any real information in here besides "data!!!"

    • @carswelllima
      @carswelllima 3 года назад +2

      billions, actually

    • @aaronl22
      @aaronl22 3 года назад +1

      Aside from Sidewalk

    • @MamboBean343
      @MamboBean343 3 года назад +2

      @@somebodyelse9130 They issued a correction-it's one-third of homes now 😬

  • @Aldissimo90
    @Aldissimo90 3 года назад +4668

    this video comes exactly after that millions of humans have un wrapped their smart speaker Christmas present

    • @flipcats
      @flipcats 3 года назад +59

      this is surprisingly true

    • @khein2204
      @khein2204 3 года назад +20

      here I am

    • @elizabethregina2515
      @elizabethregina2515 3 года назад +64

      Oh come on.... you should always be skeptical when something like this is inexpensive...

    • @Baxtexx
      @Baxtexx 3 года назад +13

      I got a google home last year.. I didnt even open it, sold it.

    • @alexandraknibbe232
      @alexandraknibbe232 3 года назад +6

      I got an iPad with Siri in it but she can’t tell me if she listens to me when I don’t use here I guess she heard the video so now she won’t tell me if she listens to me secretly! Fishy

  • @benskinner4624
    @benskinner4624 3 года назад +2370

    Spotify were quite literally giving away hundreds of thousands of Nest Smart Speakers in the UK this year, completely free...
    Worth bearing in mind

    • @aturchomicz821
      @aturchomicz821 3 года назад +9

      hmmm

    • @nicholasmichaluk
      @nicholasmichaluk 3 года назад +151

      same with google, they were emailing vouchers for a 100% discount on a google speaker

    • @Armyguywizerdo16
      @Armyguywizerdo16 3 года назад +40

      how were they free? You had the sign up for a Spotify premium account.

    • @nicholasmichaluk
      @nicholasmichaluk 3 года назад +117

      @@Armyguywizerdo16 which is almost always available for free in the first month, sometimes even first free months. A ton of people that use Spotify already have premium.

    • @LowKey_B
      @LowKey_B 3 года назад +11

      RUclips sent me a nest completely free:(

  • @razijukes9435
    @razijukes9435 3 года назад +897

    If your scared from smart speakers, just imagine all the information your smart phone knows about you.

    • @orangeVSappel
      @orangeVSappel 3 года назад +3

      @Antonio Espinosa that's exactly me

    • @Kni0002
      @Kni0002 3 года назад +2

      Not much

    • @DavidKen878
      @DavidKen878 3 года назад +8

      @Antonio Espinosa No the ones who are afraid are the ones who have zero clue on how technology works. Ignorance of technology is the real problem.

    • @Apelles42069
      @Apelles42069 3 года назад

      They're all the same, four-to-five companies.

    • @M3NO451
      @M3NO451 3 года назад +2

      what a false equivalency, not like its mutually exclusive.

  • @brockobama257
    @brockobama257 3 года назад +261

    Ad targeting makes me uncomfortable because I don’t want to want things.

    • @raptoray1785
      @raptoray1785 3 года назад +4

      yep money will go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

    • @joaohernesto9635
      @joaohernesto9635 3 года назад +1

      now you know why you're always seeing ads that you don't like.

    • @onewayticket2148
      @onewayticket2148 3 года назад +1

      I love your profile pic 😂

    • @woulg
      @woulg 3 года назад

      I think you're underestimating how much targeted advertising can actually change your mind, and this same data can be used to push a political agenda. The other aspect is that the data they collect to serve targeted ads is interpreted into a psychological model of you, which is then used to try to change your mind about things. I agree it's benign if they're trying to sell you breakfast cereal or whatever, but it gets a bit iffy if they are trying to sell you medication, weapons, news or political ads. Not to mention that they can share the info with law enforcement so if you accidentally trip some alarm by looking up used microwaves and then fertilizer or something then they might think you're making a weapon and send someone to "check you out"

    • @Naveen-iu7ej
      @Naveen-iu7ej 3 года назад

      ..

  • @krateproductions4872
    @krateproductions4872 3 года назад +2319

    RUclips channels like Vox and Tom Scott should make a complete tutorial on how to opt-out from personalised data/storing data from all major services (Facebook, Google, Amazon) for the layman to watch and do it for their own good.

    • @DJDiarrhea
      @DJDiarrhea 3 года назад +88

      Vox isn't a youtuber lol. And for most websites it's pretty easy. You just have to dig around their privacy settings.

    • @RomanBellicTaxi
      @RomanBellicTaxi 3 года назад +74

      You only opt-out of personalized ads. Not the bulk data collection. It is always on, no matter what. That's why most privacy-focused channels, sites and communities talk about switching services and providers.

    • @marchaustein1429
      @marchaustein1429 3 года назад +32

      easy
      just live in the woods
      without technology

    • @aerialdarkguy
      @aerialdarkguy 3 года назад +10

      The EFF has some good writeups that can suit your needs.

    • @sentfromheaven00
      @sentfromheaven00 3 года назад +12

      why would vox do that, they are a media company, they benefit from it

  • @masterimbecile
    @masterimbecile 3 года назад +2865

    Feel kinda bad for all the people whose name is actually Alexa.

    • @PatheticTV
      @PatheticTV 3 года назад +221

      At least Apple made up a name that practically nobody has, Siri. Meanwhile, Amazon just didn’t care and ruined the lives of thousands of real people named Alexa b

    • @hilal_younus
      @hilal_younus 3 года назад +134

      @@PatheticTV and google had an “original” name 😂, Google Assistant

    • @user-k3bm7xp2s9
      @user-k3bm7xp2s9 3 года назад +84

      @@PatheticTV I'm a South East Asian, and I'd say Siri and its variants are not uncommon.

    • @sarahk5033
      @sarahk5033 3 года назад +48

      @@PatheticTV I feel bad my friends mom is named siri and I really didn’t believe her at first

    • @scorchinggoat9589
      @scorchinggoat9589 3 года назад +85

      they now live inside a tiny metal disc and are forced to answer questions and sing songs. I truly feel bad for them.

  • @thmusic7214
    @thmusic7214 3 года назад +527

    "we don't use the recording, but may use the transcript to target ads" that is equivalent to using the recording...

    • @blackcat-mp7kh
      @blackcat-mp7kh 3 года назад +26

      Tricky wording

    • @itswilllthehuman
      @itswilllthehuman 3 года назад +41

      It means they use the WORDS that you SPOKE, but don’t actually hear the AUDIO that the speaker heard

    • @abbiebann2440
      @abbiebann2440 3 года назад +10

      Some people take issue with the audio being used rather than the content of what they said

    • @thmusic7214
      @thmusic7214 3 года назад +7

      @@itswilllthehuman how would you use the audio to target ads without converting it into a transcript?

    • @deng7879
      @deng7879 3 года назад +3

      @@thmusic7214 um... By listening to the recording?

  • @shinxxed
    @shinxxed 3 года назад +901

    This video basically activated my Alexa throughout and she even answered the questions

    • @gracemoreno6778
      @gracemoreno6778 3 года назад +5

      0-0

    • @LeslieT
      @LeslieT 3 года назад +39

      And my google nest! I had to tell it to shut up!😂

    • @guillerhonora717
      @guillerhonora717 3 года назад +2

      well thats convenient

    • @uhhhhh262
      @uhhhhh262 3 года назад +7

      And you’re not throwing these devices out?

    • @blaster1185
      @blaster1185 3 года назад +3

      So now Amazon knows about this video lol

  • @DOLsenior
    @DOLsenior 3 года назад +705

    Consumers shouldn't have to "opt out" of ANYTHING. Everything should be "opt in".

    • @TheAmericanAmerican
      @TheAmericanAmerican 3 года назад +19

      Funny how you refer to citizens as "consumers" 🤔

    • @cloudfox1908
      @cloudfox1908 3 года назад +46

      No, certain features should be opt-out. It's only the privacy ones that should be mandated to be opt-in.

    • @kaloca
      @kaloca 3 года назад +4

      That's why taxation is theft

    • @__goat__
      @__goat__ 3 года назад +2

      Move to the EU, it's opt out here

    • @DOLsenior
      @DOLsenior 3 года назад +13

      @@__goat__ Why would I want to be required to opt out of everything? I think nothing should be activated until you opt in upon initial activation.

  • @idontthink
    @idontthink 3 года назад +121

    Cortana left the chat.

    • @jahyamack8359
      @jahyamack8359 3 года назад +5

      Wasn't there a bixby one too?

    • @johnwickfriends2876
      @johnwickfriends2876 3 года назад +1

      Cortana and Bixby failed!

    • @RamiHaddadin
      @RamiHaddadin 3 года назад +7

      Im pretty sure 99% of people either turned it off/doesn't know what it is or have only used it once.

  • @0Linerider0forever0
    @0Linerider0forever0 3 года назад +161

    This information is really important to spread, that people understand the cost of these products. (This video is just 8 years too late)

    • @Cheetorblz
      @Cheetorblz 3 года назад +4

      Yeah. Cause you have been so damaged by the past 8 years of data collection. Give me a break

    • @offchance789
      @offchance789 3 года назад +2

      @@Cheetorblz That's a hot take, yes, maybe he wasn't physically harmed by 8 years of data collection, but your personally identifiable info is the bogeyman of today. I pay for identity fraud protection and I suggest everyone does the same. How much of your profile is available to fraudsters can be frightening, they know your address, ssn (this number never changes), credit cards, phone numbers, occupation. they can track your purchases, know which websites you share, your emails, shared passwords between websites... the list of information being passed around on the darkweb would probably surprise the ignorant.

    • @Cheetorblz
      @Cheetorblz 3 года назад +5

      @@offchance789 Much ado about nothing. Identity fraud is older than I am and cutting yourself off from technology's benefits will not stop it.

    • @Dakarai_Knight
      @Dakarai_Knight 3 года назад +1

      @@offchance789 even if our data is being brokered around like that on the dark web the likelihood of someone being targeted is so small due to how many people use these services. Data breaches happen occasionally but that info isn't constantly out for individuals to find and sell. Google may sell tracking data to amazon or other sites but nothing like giving people the identificables to most people. That's coming from someone who usually helps most ppl around them with their cyber security. They think studying artificial intelligence and robotics makes me an expert in that field somehow lol. I have dabbled though Ironically because of that misconception.

    • @szuperrosszarcu
      @szuperrosszarcu 3 года назад

      @@Cheetorblz ask alexa about 'surveillance capitalism'

  • @aradhyagaonkar9542
    @aradhyagaonkar9542 3 года назад +358

    When it's cheap
    YOU ARE THE PRODUCT

    • @hellomate6079
      @hellomate6079 3 года назад +5

      Not exactly, look at textile industry and compare it with 80 years ago

    • @drabberfrog
      @drabberfrog 3 года назад +3

      Cable isn't cheap and yet you're still the product. Watching RUclips and being the product for free is a lot better of a deal.

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 3 года назад +2

      Not really, i.e. every single free/libre open source piece of software and hardware. Free and you're not the product whatsoever. Anything else the point's true though.

  • @tim..indeed
    @tim..indeed 3 года назад +1579

    Jokes on them, I don't have any money I could spend on their products.

    • @flvffette
      @flvffette 3 года назад +35

      U have a device to watch RUclips and u don’t have 10 dollars?? What

    • @nicholasmichaluk
      @nicholasmichaluk 3 года назад +16

      smart speakers are often given out for free with many purshases because they're not sold for profit but rather to farm money off of the user

    • @nationeer
      @nationeer 3 года назад +19

      @@flvffette yes, fortunately the computers in the library is free to use for my case

    • @inmortal131
      @inmortal131 3 года назад

      Overvalued product.

    • @aditeerao9455
      @aditeerao9455 3 года назад

      Bruhhhhh

  • @cope7468
    @cope7468 3 года назад +32

    yeah i got a google home for free with my spotify subscription bc i wanted a blue tooth speaker and thought it would work nicely. For some reason my cat HATED it and constantly sought to pick it up by the frabic and chuck it off any surface until it finally broke... maybe he knows something

    • @taranjotsingh3981
      @taranjotsingh3981 2 года назад +2

      He loves you and knows you're better off without one.

  • @emberchord
    @emberchord 3 года назад +13

    I wish I could send this video to my german-speaking mother. I was mortified when she told me that she bought three at once lol.

  • @Nuclear241
    @Nuclear241 3 года назад +705

    Here's a useful list: Mozilla's "Privacy Not Included" Buyer's Guide.

    • @dauts
      @dauts 3 года назад +21

      yeah it's pretty shocking

    • @srimangoel1318
      @srimangoel1318 3 года назад +28

      Awesome list really - breaks down the privacy risks of each product amazingly.

    • @dziban303
      @dziban303 3 года назад +20

      Mozilla ain't all that, either. Firefox actively pushes users to install a writing analyzing extension to catch grammar mistakes, et cetera-with the result that all of a person's writing in the browser gets sent to some third party for analysis ( *and datamining* ). Suggesting your users install a keylogger, great idea Mozilla

    • @noahvaldez5554
      @noahvaldez5554 3 года назад +6

      @@dziban303 Isn't it easy to opt out of though? I know it's not as good as opting-in, but going through settings they make some of the "callback" stuff clear to read and easy to disable. However, I remember there was a controversy where extensions didn't work unless you updated firefox, which you couldn't do without enabling "studies," but that only happened once. Or are you talking about something else?

    • @chris-hayes
      @chris-hayes 3 года назад +53

      @@dziban303 those extensions have nothing to do with Mozilla. If your want to install Grammarly, that's your choice. Not sure why you blame Mozilla for your choice of extension. They also aren't keyloggers, you're misusing the term.

  • @WengChoongChan
    @WengChoongChan 3 года назад +79

    She activated my Google Assistant when she said "okay Google" 😂

  • @DawgFL
    @DawgFL 3 года назад +80

    I mean, we carry around a smartphone with a camera and microphone all day long, laptops with the same. If anything smart speakers are the least of your privacy worries.

    • @felreaverguy
      @felreaverguy 3 года назад +5

      and since the end of net neutrality our service providers sell our geolocation data

    • @TusharSundarka
      @TusharSundarka 3 года назад +6

      Exactly. I don't understand why people are super scared of smart speakers when they own hundreds of other devices which are much better at spying on them

    • @unknownperson3691
      @unknownperson3691 3 года назад

      Finally a comment that makes sense.

    • @gingerfail1669
      @gingerfail1669 3 года назад

      @@TusharSundarka How many devices with a camera or microphone do you own?

    • @lifescansdarkly
      @lifescansdarkly 2 года назад

      Saying "smart speakers aren't bad because phones are worse" is like saying "burglary isn't bad because bank robbery is worse." They are both bad, and we should not have *any* devices spying on us at *any* time, simple as that.

  • @3rKoPlaysMinecraft
    @3rKoPlaysMinecraft 3 года назад +31

    "Hmm I will not buy that cuz I don't want to be spied on"
    *My phone*: "Sorry, I didn't quite catch that"
    O.O

  • @afuu794
    @afuu794 3 года назад +581

    "What they might do with that information is still a mystery"
    *Its for money.* Mystery solved.

    • @ArtemisScribe
      @ArtemisScribe 3 года назад +55

      Money is the end result of what they do with your data, it still doesn't tell you what they're doing with your data in order to get that money. "How are you going to fix my car?" "Money" sure you're gonna pay your mechanic when they've fixed your car, but they haven't answered your question on what they're actually going to do to your vehicle.

    • @thecompanioncube4211
      @thecompanioncube4211 3 года назад +24

      It's ultimately money sure. But that's not the 'goal'. The goal is complete market control. With every aspect of our lives channeled through a singular ecosystem and every recommendation, every suggestion decided FOR you nd not BY you.

    • @PR2k9
      @PR2k9 3 года назад +3

      @@thecompanioncube4211agreed. Money is just a means to control. Money provides control. Data provides control. More than both data and money these companies want control.

    • @LaVaZ000
      @LaVaZ000 3 года назад +1

      So they will do it's for money, congratulations.

    • @uhhhhh262
      @uhhhhh262 3 года назад +1

      Money is the byproduct of this massive data grab.

  • @J_for_Jirachy
    @J_for_Jirachy 3 года назад +156

    "Yea! I got smart speaker as Christmas present!"
    Vox : "Congratulation! Here's the video as we explaining why your data is going to be their Christmas present from now on"

    • @SMVJenks
      @SMVJenks 3 года назад +1

      It’s unnecessarily alarmist. You can easily delete your data , and companies like Amazon and Apple don’t have incentives to act in anti-consumer ways.

    • @Wilker_uwu
      @Wilker_uwu 3 года назад +11

      @@SMVJenks if they had no incentives for that, Windows 10 updates wouldn't be so agressive, the iOS wouldn't be a jail, Google would target ads based on content _currently_ on screen only, instead of collecting the entire users' history, Amazon wouldn't be placing DRMs on the Kindle, and Facebook wouldn't end in so much trouble about wanting to merge with WhatsApp and Instagram.

    • @mcofficer
      @mcofficer 3 года назад +5

      @@SMVJenks in the EU, citizens have the right to request all data that a company possesses about them. When one customer in germany made such a request, amazon gave him hundreds of hours of alexa recordings - **from the wrong person**. that's how much they care about the consumer, and that's how they take good care of your data...

    • @hisuianpitch
      @hisuianpitch 3 года назад

      @@Wilker_uwu Windows 10 updates are only aggressive if you didn't update for like half a year

    • @Wilker_uwu
      @Wilker_uwu 3 года назад

      @@hisuianpitch you're tellimg me that the frequent popups with no opt-out on Windows 7 are only agressive if i didn't update to Windows 10 for like half a year.
      and even then consent should be a requirement.

  • @HunterHogan
    @HunterHogan 3 года назад +63

    "We don't know what they will do with that data." Wait, what? Have you already forgotten Facebook and the 2016 election?

    • @wmurd
      @wmurd 3 года назад +1

      what about it? (also I'm not from us - what use I could be? not being a spy or a rocket scientist...)

    • @PostScarcitytCat
      @PostScarcitytCat 3 года назад +8

      @@wmurd Idk about the US but in the UK the conservative party got their hands on some of Facebook's data (thanks to Cambridge Analytica) and used it to send targeted/personalised ads to people during the Brexit referendum (and general election).

    • @antonberglund117
      @antonberglund117 3 года назад

      You know that Trump just copied Obama? They used the same trick.

    • @Cecil_Augus
      @Cecil_Augus 3 года назад

      @@wmurd The republican party alongside with Cambr.idge Analy.tica and Facebook used people's data to manipulate election in Trump's favour.

  • @Jesse__H
    @Jesse__H 3 года назад +5

    What Orwell failed to predict is that we would happily buy the surveillance devices ourselves 🤷‍♂️

  • @timmaltekrugler2873
    @timmaltekrugler2873 3 года назад +867

    Data privacy is not a joke, Jim. Millions of people suffer every year. - Dwight K. Schrute

    • @Sneaker3719
      @Sneaker3719 3 года назад +27

      That's a misquote. He was talking about identity theft.

    • @GothBatty
      @GothBatty 3 года назад +5

      Who is that

    • @9s346
      @9s346 3 года назад +14

      @@GothBatty A hard working employee

    • @shamiksinha4808
      @shamiksinha4808 3 года назад +9

      @@Sneaker3719 r/whoooooooooosh

    • @Sneaker3719
      @Sneaker3719 3 года назад +4

      @@GothBatty
      A character from the Office. It's apparently a good show, but I've never watched.

  • @ferrerorocher4013
    @ferrerorocher4013 3 года назад +301

    We are inviting surveillance into our home.

    • @DOLsenior
      @DOLsenior 3 года назад +7

      That's pretty much the gist of it.

    • @Cheetorblz
      @Cheetorblz 3 года назад +8

      Yeah, sort of like having servants in days gone by. You can see how the wealthy were concerned their privacy was being compromised by having all these servants making their life easier. Get a grip people.

    • @dylanschmidt9056
      @dylanschmidt9056 3 года назад +17

      @@Cheetorblz Servants didn't pool their information in centralized servers where, voluntarily or involuntarily, it might fall into the hands of a variety of hostile forces. Furthermore, those aristocrats were afraid of democratic revolution, whereas we're concerned about demagogues manipulating people's anxieties and fears to seize power or tyrannical governments crushing dissent. And in Amazon's case, the information wouldn't even need to change hands, given their attacks on labour rights.

    • @Cheetorblz
      @Cheetorblz 3 года назад +6

      @@dylanschmidt9056 yeah, like they are going to manipulate my fear of rain tomorrow.
      You are living in an adventure world of your own invention.

    • @AmiCestLaVie
      @AmiCestLaVie 3 года назад +11

      With smartphones, we already have been

  • @simonibrahim9403
    @simonibrahim9403 3 года назад +2

    I really wish Vox spent more time talking about Apple’s side. And their starkly different approach of “the product is the product, not the consumer”. For example, the Amazon Echo Dot is $50. The Apple HomePod mini is $99. The Echo Dot uses your questions to target ads, analyze your data, and tries to sell you products. HomePod does none of that.

  • @leechCat
    @leechCat 3 года назад +13

    *The FBI has been real silent since this came out.*

  • @paolob.5667
    @paolob.5667 3 года назад +162

    "when it first arrived from Amazon, I didn't know what it was"
    Man, how many memes started like that

  • @simguy97
    @simguy97 3 года назад +198

    Never understood why Alexa or Google assistant is provided as a feature in headphones...I only want good audio quality!

    • @looming_
      @looming_ 3 года назад +22

      Not everyone shares your opinion obviously.

    • @starboysuniverse9956
      @starboysuniverse9956 3 года назад +1

      bro i like google so your opinions are not relevant

    • @DOLsenior
      @DOLsenior 3 года назад

      Cool channel icon!

    • @casperguo7177
      @casperguo7177 3 года назад

      Cuz hand free phone calls are real blessings

    • @CityLifeinAmerica
      @CityLifeinAmerica 3 года назад +1

      @@starboysuniverse9956 The phone would handle Google/Alexa/Siri. Not the headphones themselves.

  • @kevray
    @kevray 3 года назад +20

    I like how people are afraid of their Alexas spying on them when they already have a device that can spy on them worse. The phone.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 3 года назад

      The worst thing about that is that it doesn't have to be that way. There is no reason why a smartphone needs to be designed to collect data on its users. Google and co just chose to make them like that. There are a couple of smaller companies out there proving it by making phones that don't spy on you, but you have to pay a hefty premium for them (because no economies of scale and no data collection to subsidise the hardware), and they have their own, much more limited, software ecosystem.

  • @cb235
    @cb235 3 года назад +9

    00:32 Amazon released what would become one of the greatest memes of all time

  • @simonkempe1212
    @simonkempe1212 3 года назад +10

    the fact that the question "this is a deal breaker, maybe you shouldn't buy one" doesn't even come up. Means that they've already won. Imagine if we began to place a shiver of responsibility on the consumers that after all have decided time and time again that they don't care about privacy if they get the marshmallow now

  • @DJDiarrhea
    @DJDiarrhea 3 года назад +72

    Atleast someone has to listen to me swearing at my google home

  • @andybaldman
    @andybaldman 3 года назад +10

    Remember when Google's motto was 'Don't Be Evil'?

  • @Whatsayoutuber
    @Whatsayoutuber 3 года назад +4

    One time my friend and I played back recordings from my alexa and discovered that our recorded voices were almost indistinguishable, while our real life voices were quite different

  • @Justin3
    @Justin3 3 года назад +87

    Data being sold to advertisers - Us humans has started to become commodities ourselves once again.

    • @zelenskysboot361
      @zelenskysboot361 3 года назад +11

      We always have been.

    • @TheAmericanAmerican
      @TheAmericanAmerican 3 года назад +20

      Capitalism? Yea, definitely Capitalism.

    • @lenn939
      @lenn939 3 года назад +3

      You should watch “the social dilemma” on Netflix

    • @thePronto
      @thePronto 3 года назад +2

      If the product/service is free, you are the product.

    • @ehsan_kia
      @ehsan_kia 3 года назад

      It shows no one here knows how any of this works if you think they sell your data directly to advertisers.

  • @jorrinvynck
    @jorrinvynck 3 года назад +52

    I’m just waiting for the next scandal to be revealed, so that people finally take the power away from those companies

    • @TheAmericanAmerican
      @TheAmericanAmerican 3 года назад +12

      Ha!!! As if.
      The only way the people will take the power away from these capitalist monsters is by force.
      The corporations bought our country decades ago. We the people are only now slowly waking up...

  • @DylanODonnell
    @DylanODonnell 3 года назад +71

    You lumped Apple into the infographics but didn’t extrapolate their stance.

    • @ravenizer
      @ravenizer 3 года назад +34

      Because unlike the rest, Apple's devices parse most of the text on device. It's one of the biggest reasons they cost more. And secondly, they take privacy super seriously. They don't care about ad dollars and Siri improvement based recordings are opt-in, which is presented to you as an option when you set up Siri or any new Siri enabled devices. I don't want to come across as a fan boy, but Vox had no business putting Apple in here; which is why they had nothing to say about it.

    • @KhanPiesseONE
      @KhanPiesseONE 3 года назад +7

      @@ravenizer That may be true, but Apple still collects vast amounts of user data from iPhones, they use it for quality assurance purposes but that doesn’t mean that they’re not doing anything wrong with that information. Apple is so secretive that we have no way of knowing what exactly they do with our data. At least with Google and Amazon we know what they are doing.

    • @beelzemobabbity
      @beelzemobabbity 3 года назад +6

      @@ravenizer yeah, apple may be hella overpriced, but I’ll admit they feel way more secure.

    • @mho...
      @mho... 3 года назад

      apple doesnt matter!

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 3 года назад +6

      @@KhanPiesseONE I honestly, truly trust Apple more because their products cost so much that they don't have a NEED to use your data, and they advertise this. By default their devices 100% collect far less data.

  • @joermnyc
    @joermnyc 3 года назад +7

    It’s the same as “smart” TVs... it’s there to mine you for your personal data so someone can sell you something via targeted advertising.

  • @Mr_Ahir_977
    @Mr_Ahir_977 3 года назад +150

    Before buying any technology or gadgets ask yourself "Do i really need this?"

    • @rdvgrd6
      @rdvgrd6 3 года назад +18

      Okay mr obvious

    • @sidharthjagan3449
      @sidharthjagan3449 3 года назад +11

      Capitalism: am i joke to you?

    • @gameofbros4728
      @gameofbros4728 3 года назад +3

      And I’m answer every time is, hmmmm actually yes I do need this, I like to turn on my smart light from my bed and tell Alexa to lock my door.

    • @Toon444
      @Toon444 3 года назад +1

      @@Vii905 Wow so scary they are gonna personalize ads, whatever shall I do. 🙄 You make it seem like they want to sell your credit card details on the dark web

    • @FlowersInHisHair
      @FlowersInHisHair 3 года назад +1

      I mean literally everyone asks themselves that before a tech purchase, this is not a unique insight particular to smartspeakers

  • @aaaaaaa_aaaaaaaaaa
    @aaaaaaa_aaaaaaaaaa 3 года назад +63

    It took y'all nearly a decade to realize smart speakers invade your privacy?

    • @FlowersInHisHair
      @FlowersInHisHair 3 года назад +5

      No I think everyone knew it from the start

    • @zelenskysboot361
      @zelenskysboot361 3 года назад +3

      The world is full of lemmings

    • @fwogboy
      @fwogboy 3 года назад

      @@FlowersInHisHair people are gullible. its important to remind everyone these things.

  • @aarhanaadib8021
    @aarhanaadib8021 3 года назад

    And here we are making Alexa, Siri ,Bixby and Assistant talk to each other and argue

  • @pupasarus
    @pupasarus 3 года назад

    Half the time Alexa doesn't understand your question. So big deal.

  • @pietvanleeuwen110
    @pietvanleeuwen110 3 года назад +70

    Me:
    Watching this on my google phone, in a room with a google home mini, two chromecasts and three smart lights
    👁️👄👁️

    • @hilal_younus
      @hilal_younus 3 года назад +7

      Bruh You put your entire ecosystem in one company which has literally the worst privacy policy (except for Facebook and possibly Amazon) , Like it would’ve been better if you had been in an ecosystem which has a good stance on privacy

    • @extrapolate
      @extrapolate 3 года назад +9

      That’s why I prefer apple. Their business model barely profits from ads and selling personal data. Basically they don’t make money off of invading my privacy, I pay them upfront for that and I’m ok with that.

    • @vijaykumar-to5vd
      @vijaykumar-to5vd 3 года назад +1

      same hero bro. with google home mini and a chromecast and two lights

    • @bluedreamkush2392
      @bluedreamkush2392 3 года назад +2

      @@extrapolate yeah but their products are insanely expensive and they are pro censorship which is something I hate about apple.

    • @dark12ain
      @dark12ain 3 года назад +1

      @@extrapolate yeah but apple is too expensive for me nowadays, also I can't just download stuff strait from the internet like I can on my pixel also apple phones don't offer expandable storage witch is a big deal for me

  • @ValdemarDeMatos
    @ValdemarDeMatos 3 года назад +134

    Isn’t this already known?

    • @RealityBoat
      @RealityBoat 3 года назад +11

      Obviously data privacy is important but I don't feel that threatened when it only records when you give a command. Besides it's some random underpayed employee surveying a small portion of the recordings to find bugs. The real issue is that if they are using your data for ads we should get payed royalties

    • @Dan-do2op
      @Dan-do2op 3 года назад +3

      Yes, but this is classic Vox “making things look worse than it is and using fancy infographics”

    • @FindecanorNotGmail
      @FindecanorNotGmail 3 года назад +3

      @@RealityBoat It also records everything else in the room while someone is giving it a command.

    • @thecompanioncube4211
      @thecompanioncube4211 3 года назад +8

      Yes it is. But new privacy breaching "features" are becoming opt-out instead of opt-in. Which means people are almost forced to give up privacy as the opt-out options are hidden deep in settings and are never fully explained

    • @ValdemarDeMatos
      @ValdemarDeMatos 3 года назад

      @@thecompanioncube4211
      Well, at least in Europe legally, companies that sell these kind of devices can’t do that. GDPR requires an active acceptance by the user to Opt-in before the user can Opt-out.
      Although some companies have no problem paying huge fines as they violate these laws.

  • @FinancialShinanigan
    @FinancialShinanigan 3 года назад +15

    Just shows how desensitized we are with our own privacy when only 47% and 31% find those things unacceptable

  • @samuelmassicotte9645
    @samuelmassicotte9645 3 года назад

    Ive watched so many memes about Alexa that it's the first time I actually hear the commercial

  • @FreekToTakex
    @FreekToTakex 3 года назад +112

    Read The Age of Surveillance Capitalism if you want to learn more. Highly recommended.

  • @Jegrygerfede
    @Jegrygerfede 3 года назад +99

    I can’t see why they are useful

    • @gabbypalmer3301
      @gabbypalmer3301 3 года назад +54

      I can see why they are useful for someone like my grandfather who is disabled and can make calls if he falls down with no one home, or do other things if he left his phone in the other room, but I agree that they dont have much of a purpose for the general public

    • @allansh828
      @allansh828 3 года назад +1

      they are super popular among old people

    • @mosijahi3096
      @mosijahi3096 3 года назад +4

      @@allansh828I don’t know where you live, but theses Devices are popular among other sectors of populations besides older people.

    • @woutervn
      @woutervn 3 года назад +7

      It's quite useful for smarthomes. Controlling lights and stuff

    • @mrpw1402
      @mrpw1402 3 года назад +3

      My main use is home automation

  • @Custmzir
    @Custmzir 3 года назад

    I actually find personalised ads really useful and have kept it turned on

  • @feketefeher
    @feketefeher 3 года назад

    i’m so glad for this Open Source series here on Vox. please keep them coming and reflect on current issues (as much as possible)! i really feel
    people should get info on these in a much more understandable way. i am really concerned what could become of these things in the future.

  • @brothercharanus1927
    @brothercharanus1927 3 года назад +107

    "It steals 100$ worth of information for 12 seconds."

    • @avivg.4971
      @avivg.4971 3 года назад +1

      lol what

    • @mystier3423
      @mystier3423 3 года назад +6

      Or 0$. If your information is useless 😂

    • @brothercharanus1927
      @brothercharanus1927 3 года назад

      @@mystier3423 oh right!

    • @gnomsrepnay
      @gnomsrepnay 3 года назад +3

      _loud russian yelling in distance_

    • @jmhastings0
      @jmhastings0 3 года назад +5

      I'm not sure who wants to listen to me eat potato chips for half an hour

  • @Electric__
    @Electric__ 3 года назад +6

    Alexa is an actually interesting device tbf

  • @fburton8
    @fburton8 3 года назад +3

    "... and while I soon forget my question, Amazon remembers it." So if you ask Alexa what was my last question...?

  • @VivekBabbar
    @VivekBabbar 3 года назад +13

    Who else turned off their Google Ad Personalization settings?

    • @kewgardensstation
      @kewgardensstation 3 года назад +2

      Me!

    • @drabberfrog
      @drabberfrog 3 года назад +1

      Why would you do that? Now all the ads you'll get will just be random.

  • @AdamGCurtis
    @AdamGCurtis 3 года назад +44

    Imagine paying to be spied on

    • @donotcareatall
      @donotcareatall 3 года назад

      You mean protected

    • @TurnaboutAdam
      @TurnaboutAdam 3 года назад +1

      What did you use to post this on?

    • @AdamGCurtis
      @AdamGCurtis 3 года назад +1

      ​@@TurnaboutAdam Corporations aren't your friends, friend

    • @biplabkumarghosh6300
      @biplabkumarghosh6300 3 года назад

      @@AdamGCurtis They aren't your enemies, either

    • @AdamGCurtis
      @AdamGCurtis 3 года назад +1

      @@biplabkumarghosh6300 They're literally infringing on people's privacy my dude

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 3 года назад +30

    At what cost?
    *Everything.*

  • @lindsayryan3143
    @lindsayryan3143 3 года назад +5

    When she said “Okay Google ...” my google speaker answered
    Love a little heart attack moment

  • @sumnerd7511
    @sumnerd7511 3 года назад +1

    Am I the only one who has never seen the actual Amazon Echo commercial because I only watch the memes?

  • @fredmon.
    @fredmon. 3 года назад +18

    I like how this got recommended to me five minutes after I just had a conversation about this 👀

  • @Leafeon-gd5en
    @Leafeon-gd5en 3 года назад +4

    Seeing all this new technology you really start realizing how our generation is living in the dreamed of cyberpunk era

  • @nukicy
    @nukicy 3 года назад

    Well played, when he said "Alexa what's the temperature", my Alexa responded 😂

  • @maedusa
    @maedusa 3 года назад

    All jokes aside, this is what I love about Vox. I have a smart speaker, and several Amazon products, so this was very helpful just to know in general, with solid information and a source.

  • @chiefpriest6041
    @chiefpriest6041 3 года назад +14

    Good thing I've never been a fan of these smart speakers to begin with.

  • @doesntmatter6827
    @doesntmatter6827 3 года назад +25

    Buying anything from Google is like paying for your private information to be sold

    • @potfdron
      @potfdron 3 года назад

      An alternative???

    • @sembarangwes549
      @sembarangwes549 3 года назад +12

      But... U r using RUclips rn

    • @g00rb4u
      @g00rb4u 3 года назад +11

      You've commented on RUclips - owned by Alphabet who also owns Google.
      You've done so with a Gmail account.
      Alphabet and its subsidiaries are already profiting off you.

    • @exaucemayunga22
      @exaucemayunga22 3 года назад

      Or USING Google, which tou already use everyday

    • @Lightningflamingice
      @Lightningflamingice 3 года назад

      @Jao Bai Dun you dont but what the guy is saying is that the reason RUclips is free is because the data they collect (what type of videos you watch) is used to target advertising towards you. Of course, their algorithm will only look for generalized patterns (e.x. watch a lot of gaming videos? Here's an ad for Xbox because we know you're more likely to buy it compared to the average viewer), and going on incognito or turning off data collection in privacy settings will turn this off

  • @Vexwisval28
    @Vexwisval28 3 года назад

    That moment when you don't care "as" much because you have a burning hate towards ads and have never been convinced by one, nor ever bought something through one

  • @ABHISHEKKUMAR-td4cs
    @ABHISHEKKUMAR-td4cs 3 года назад +1

    Eagerly waiting for Vox's 2020 rewind

  • @kialuvsyoo
    @kialuvsyoo 3 года назад +43

    I was outraged when I saw the one targeted specifically to kids.

  • @razijukes9435
    @razijukes9435 3 года назад +9

    Imagine all the things our smart phones know about us 🤯

  • @andybaldman
    @andybaldman 3 года назад

    It's amazing that this video is informative to anyone. Everyone should know these devices are doing this.

  • @BlueCleanClamp
    @BlueCleanClamp 3 года назад +1

    LOL 0:21 it activated my Siri

  • @leizylromero
    @leizylromero 3 года назад +49

    I have a google smart speaker. Google was offering free smart speakers for RUclips premium members. I guess the data is so valuable that they’re just giving them away. I rarely use the speaker.

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 3 года назад

      @@luxcyrus3754 Yes, RUclips Music is great. More music than literally any other platform, and has great suggestions. But if you already find all your music on another service feel free to stay there.

    • @edwardiiiofengland9337
      @edwardiiiofengland9337 3 года назад

      We use ours as an alarm and a speaker. That’s... it.

  • @bmwmrt
    @bmwmrt 3 года назад +22

    "The things you own, end up owning you." Tyler Durden

    • @jmckendry84
      @jmckendry84 3 года назад +1

      Quoting Fight Club, wow, so deep

  • @justanotherguywithoutamous5788
    @justanotherguywithoutamous5788 3 года назад +1

    Vox: the real cost of smart speakers
    Almost a million people: interesting....

  • @5n5i5c5k5
    @5n5i5c5k5 3 года назад +2

    While watching this video my echo was giving me weather updates ahaha

  • @h.m.1318
    @h.m.1318 3 года назад +6

    I kinda want to buy one now it's nice to think that someone has an interest in my life. I lowkey flattered that someone spying on me ( :

  • @gwen5437
    @gwen5437 3 года назад +32

    The real cost of smart speakers:
    Your privacy.

  • @akarshJD
    @akarshJD 3 года назад

    As a Software Enginner, it was a hard problem to solve. All we need is a mic, speaker and a bare bones processor is all that you need. Cloud is the next frontier.

  • @taekwondoboy23
    @taekwondoboy23 3 года назад +1

    Dang it, you guys activated my speaker 🤣

  • @JackStrood
    @JackStrood 3 года назад +33

    Literally EVERYONE'S smart devices have just replied to this video...

    • @thePronto
      @thePronto 3 года назад

      Not mine...I unplugged it months ago. It was a gift.

  • @stonks2929
    @stonks2929 3 года назад +355

    "Ok google, say Alexa, say Ok google repeat"
    Google: Alexa, say ok google repeat
    Alexa: Ok google repeat
    Google: ....
    Alexa: ....
    And they went on from that day

    • @anp1609
      @anp1609 3 года назад +11

      your genius frightens me

    • @thegamerkhan
      @thegamerkhan 3 года назад +7

      I had to read that a thousand times to understand it

  • @vivkonz8880
    @vivkonz8880 3 года назад

    when the video said "alexa whats the temperature" my alexa woke up and answered 32 degrees too.

  • @davidmendezlopez6236
    @davidmendezlopez6236 3 года назад

    Everyone’s Alexa activating in this video

  • @saxyrep1
    @saxyrep1 3 года назад +56

    Better title for the vid : Reason why you should stay away from a smart speaker.

    • @kingpopaul
      @kingpopaul 3 года назад +1

      'smart' anything as they are either vulnerabilities or spying on you, or both.

  • @uss_04
    @uss_04 3 года назад +5

    I got like 8 of these. Without asking.
    “Hey here’s a cheap thing that young people who use computers like”

  • @penguinhistory2458
    @penguinhistory2458 3 года назад +1

    No one:
    Bixby:Hello??

  • @ryand2389
    @ryand2389 3 года назад

    Thank you for keeping the journalism real

  • @fredrikolsson2482
    @fredrikolsson2482 3 года назад +6

    Before looking at the video, let me hazard a guess:
    Our privacy and data?

  • @thomasalder850
    @thomasalder850 3 года назад +4

    Every one in five homes....are being surveilled 24 hours a day.

  • @brainnourishmenttt
    @brainnourishmenttt 3 года назад

    I can’t be only one who’s Alexa activated during this video

  • @rqmxn.
    @rqmxn. 3 года назад +1

    Amazon: releases speaker
    Memes:

  • @Frohicky1
    @Frohicky1 3 года назад +32

    This video isn't informative to anyone who is even slightly informed.

    • @antbing1831
      @antbing1831 3 года назад

      Imo it’s a little bit informative

  • @Explains
    @Explains 3 года назад +17

    *Santa Claus:*
    He knows when you're sleeping
    He knows when you're awake
    He's knows whether you've been good or bad
    So be good! For heaven's sake
    *Smart speakers in Russia:*
    It knows when you're sleeping
    It knows when you're awake
    It knows whether you've been good or bad
    So be good! For heaven's sake
    *Or go to gulag.*

  • @stalwartneon8251
    @stalwartneon8251 3 года назад

    I like how this video just set off every Android, Iphone, and Alexa

  • @ironknightgaming5706
    @ironknightgaming5706 3 года назад

    Alexa stop spying on me.
    Alexa: Sorry. command invalid.