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Level 50 0% Shadow VS 100% Non-Shadow Pokemon, Which is Better? - Pokemon GO
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- Is there a minimum IV for a Shadow Pokémon to be stronger than a Non-Shadow Pokémon in Pokémon Go? Well, today we take a look at a 0% Shadow Tyranitar against a 100% Non-Shadow Tyranitar to see which is stronger through a raid experiment.
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Thumbs up for powering up a literal 0% shadow Tyranitar to lvl 50!!!
first he had to get a 0% shadow which is hard enough
You know 0 0 0 isnt 0% its 37% or Something
@@fishon6502 Wait what?
@@jacobtandbergnielsen8184 hes lying
@@raeesizaac5342 he is correct, 0 / 45 = 0,37 duh
Even though I already knew this, to see it to this degree really is crazy. Also have to thank Brandon for using a lot of resources to give us top level content.
I was actually expecting a lot less
He used an amount equal to half my stardust, crazy how it can go so quickly
@@francisconobrega4940lmfao!??????????!!!! Get grinding babe !!
would have been nice in your testing to also show a 90-100% shadow vs the 0% shadow so we can see the importance of IV for shadow types. I suspect its not as big a difference as the normal vs shadow is, like instead of a 3 second increase maybe a 1 or 2 second?
much respect man! powering up a worthless shadow for the community to prove to us why it is better. no wonder you grind so hard. thanks Brandon!
If it is worthless, what are the normal Tyranitar called then? :D
@@ThaGamingMisfit If you dont have a lot of starseed to have multiple shadow pokemon a non-shadow hundo would be better since it wont die as much. SO i'll call it a stepping stone.
Thanks for the experiment Brandon! This makes a lot of sense, I’ll be sure to hunt a lot more shadows now!
Now we need shadow 0% pokemon vs shadow 100% pokemon, that would be a good one.
I got 0 iv shadow snubul
What would need to be proven by that?
@@XXLRebel if ivs matter duh
@@Zazamaneebut the iv's do matter, specially the attack one. If a pkmn with 1 iv is on a battle against one with 0 ivs on attack then it will ALWAYS lose the speed ties when they use a charged move.
Well i really hate that shadow pokemon are so much stronger and purifying them is just pointless.
Kinda loses the point of "saving" them from corruption, so in essence, lore wise all of us are evil dicks, which allow suffering from pokemon to get some gains, but gains are just way too big to ignore.
Real talk; how many youtubers out there would do this for us? Probably nobody 😆 We all know how difficult it is to collect XL candies and stardusts and he is willing to level up a pokemon to the max (50) that he will never ever use again. I really appreciate you doing this for us Brandon!
You’re the best Brandon!
This video is exactly what I needed to know! I was super disappointed because my shadow were such low IV and I don't have the time to grind Pokemon like other people. But now that I know I don't need them to be super high iv to make them worth powering up now I might finally build some good pokemon for raids!!! Thank you
Old video but people will come across it.
BrandonTan showed it in action but the math behind it is:
IV is a flat amount added to the pokemon’s base stats.
So let’s say a pokemon had 100 attack, 100 defense and 100 HP. A 100% 15/15/15 IV pokemon would have 115/115/115 stats.
and the obvious 0% IV with 0/0/0 would be 100/100/100.
Shadow pokemon get a 20% attack bonus and -20% defense. So a 0% shadow pokemon with those base stats would be 120/80/100 showing that the pokemon has more attack but a lot less defense.
This is gap is only if you powered up a 0% shadow. So imagine a 3-star with possibly 15/15/11 Like the Metagross we saw? Honestly if you get a max attack IV shadow it’s definitely worth it for max damage. Just keep in mind about the Defense debuff, and make sure to dodge otherwise they will faint faster.
A 0% shadow Pokémon is so incredibly rare
Somehow even though this is rare I've gotten at least 5 of them without getting a single 100% I guess I'm just unlucky...
@@EmmeryCheung No you are not lmao.
A questão não era nem essa, mas para provar que qualquer shadow é mais forte que um Pokemon normal, mesmo 100%
Yeah for casual like me, I caught one 0-0-0 nundo and zero 15-15-15 hundo amongst around 2000 pkm since the time I started playing the game@@EmmeryCheung And that's normal pokemon, let alone shadow counterpart of those.
wow thank you for all you do for the pogo community. always dropping the most important tips
You have encouraged me to confidently evolve and power up my shadow pokemons
This is an awesome comparisons and I was actually surprised. Everyone needs to keep in mind also is dodging. When using shadow Pokémon you want to always dodge the charge moves even if they’re resisted so you can survive to get off as many charge moves as possible. This is one reason I use dragon breath on my hundo shadow dragonite and dragon tail on my regular hundo dragonite. Dodging is key to maximize the damage boost.
Cant dodge in raids. The app is too dogshit and wont register the dodge.
@@xboyjonnydont spam fast attacks and buffer one move at a time. This’ll allow you to dodge more easily
Thanks for this experiment! It makes me feel better that I don’t NEED the highest iv’s for my shadow Pokemon to actually have pretty strong Pokemon!
Can you do another test for a low iv shadow Pokémon Vs a high iv shadow Pokémon?
It will probably show no difference - especially in such an easy raid as the Shinx raid. A perfect IV Shadow hits a bit harder and in certain situations last a little longer than the 0 IV but if you don't have any problems beating the boss with your team(s) then the very small difference doesn't matter. IV are very overrated!
@@BenjaminEngel507 That's not what he asked to see - he wanted Shadow vs. Shadow!
He already did that video. He did a 90%, 93%, 96%, and 100% shadow. They all only vary by a couple secs. From 90%-100% i think was a 6-7sec difference.
This will only matter if you are trying to duo/trio a legend. Otherwise, any shadow is good enough.
@@adrianb4121 ah ok, I'll try to find that video later, thanks!
usually the difference in stats between a 0% and 100% is roughly 4-8% each depend on their base stats
Damn, fully leveled shadow nundo for our viewing pleasure? That's an instant sub, thanks very much for this video!!!
That is amazing. I have to tell my son. He trades Shadow Pokemon to the professor if they have poor IV's. This proves him wrong. That's Brandon! :) :) :)
Thanks for sharing! I'm up to 15 shadows powered up to level 40+. Quit hoarding your dust and power up your shadows, people!
great content. thanks for doing the experiment brandon!
I got a 98% Iv Shadow Lugia from Giovanni , gonna use it ultra league now !
I have always been pondering this question. Thank you for the huge investment. I can comfortably power up my shadows now.
Nice Shadow Collection bro! I recently caught a 100% Shadow Magikarp. He's now a lvl 40 Gyarados. I'm Ultra buddies with him right now and I'm close to having the XL candies to maxing him out as much as I can.
I’m trying to just shadow hunt now
Thank you so much for this video. This is extremely helpful. After watching this I can nw level some of my shadow
Now I am happy that I have a 15 attack shadow Tyranitar
Best video, finally answers the LAST question I had about shadows that no other you tuber answered
Hello Brandon,
How about another experiment on how much damage a 0% shadow can do compared to a hundo after it faints, just to take into consideration the 17% a shadow take as added damage compared to a hundo. This would represent a stronger pokemon effectiveness, specially for tier 5 and mega raids.
Also, is a shadow Ho-Oh with sacred fire+ better than a purified one with sacred fire ++? In other words is it worth purifying a Shadow Ho-Oh with sacred fire+?
This is what i was thinking about too haha
Thanks for the video. Helps me feel better about some of my better shadows not being too great. Good to know they are better than 100 IVs.
Would have been good to see this on a level 3 raid too. Just to see how long it lasts vs how much damage it did. Maybe a part 2 coming?
They do take more damage tho
i'm glad you specified 100% and 0%, if you didn't, i would've assumed there's something in between **rolls eyes**
Wow he got so much better on camera in just a year
When it comes on to shadow pokemon, I'd usually keep and power up the ones that could be purified into hundos. But, I don't purify shadow pokemon, so any IVs that's 13/13/13 and above is an elite
I have a 10 15 15 shadow charizard. 2492 CP with Dragon claw and Fire blast. I’m using it in the ultra league which is quite fun. Should I purify and/or power up to max? (2800+). Or should I keep using it in the ultra league? I’m only level 38 so I can’t power it up to level 50 yet
@@Worstestvideos keep as shadow for sure
If your lower than level 40 I'd purify all your shadow pokemon that are not good to work on your purifier medal
@@codenamebreezee except for maybe the 1k purifys to save for the challenge on level 44 or 45 I think?
@ZenFN I'd only save the shadows that purify for 1k. You have to do so many grunts and leaders you'll have more than enough for the task.
how does one achieve so much like this man. this account is wild. I feel like i never have enough stardust or candy to do anything
This changes everything. I got 3 shiny shadow bagon...im so going to power them up and wait for the comm day for the OUTRAGE move. thanks BT91
Well it's a good thing I just used a couple hundred of my charged TM's to get frustration off all my pokemon during the event! I had like 700 that I NEVER use, haha
It would be sick to see a 100% mega pokemon vs a 0% shadow of the non-mega, and to see the difference there
Thanks for doing an experiment! It was really hard for me to wrap my head around this. Since CP has been the most important thing forever
I have a 98 % Shadow tyranitar but I made the huge mistake of purifying it (since I really wanted a Hundo Tyranitar at that time). I learned my lesson hard. 😢😂
I swear Brandon only does these videos so he can flex by maxing out 0% pokemon
Really cool and educational.
Makes me feel better about blindly listening to you when I first found your channel and maxing out (lv 40 at the time) my 98% shadow Machamp.
That's some top level content! Thanks for the video.
This is super interesting. I caught a shadow shiny nundo Carvhana yesterday. It’s my second nundo and it’s a freaking shiny and I was debating if I power it up for laughs
we would also need to have in count that even if shadow has higher dps (damage per second), it doesn't mean it's going to have higher tdo (total damage output) beacuse it doesn't have the same amount of health points. You should try testing out how much damage you do by playing against a friend in a pvp match
Thanks for demonstrating what we conceptually know but wonder. Kudos for going with a nundo shadow to 50 epic resources for that video
Brandon powered a zero-zip-zilch-nada Pokémon to level 50. Priceless!
Love how u mention the ball+ every video. I definitely didn’t understand how that worked a year ago when I was watching ur videos lol
now show us one of those really awesome shadows vs the zero iv one. that's my bigger curiosity.
I think it was unnecessary to do this test when you can easily say base ttar has 251 attack power + 15 for max attack IV stat is 266. Shadow base ttar attack is 251+(.2(251))=301. 35 power difference. Did not need to waste resources to see that.
Do you owe the Trainer Club a royalty ?“ Here we Go!” 😆
Brandon truely you are legend.... You are my inspiration....
This is amazing, thanks for the doing this test!
After this video I evolved powered up my shadow swinub as much as my candies let me. The ivs are 10/5/8
I think an event where shadow Pokemon spawn in the wild for a day would be so cool.
Think of it as a community day but for a meta shadow Pokemon.
They can even create a lore for it like maybe during a team rocket event all their shadow Pokemon escaped into the wild and it's up to us to rescue them
Facts! The storyline could be something like Pokémon broke out of the team rocket factory!
Lmfao spoofers would have a field day getting all the 100% shadows
This was an eye-opener. I have a few shadow larvitars that I was just holding not knowing what to do with them. Now I know...
Dude, I probably catch like at least 10 shadows a day and I never get any good IV’s 😂
Thankyou man , you did so much work to help the community ❤️❤️
This guys content is so weirdly wholesome, I love it
I have 100% Shadow Suicune. I couldn't believe it considering how rare 100% shadows are. Plus I got it from Giovani so what are the chances??
no you get legendary shadow pokemons from giovanni but getting a hundo is well amazing
the chance of getting it from Giovani is 100% because it is the only way you can get shadow legends.
1/1000
@@bigfudge2031 bruhhh
I wish you also tested a lvl 50 15 attack shadow tyranitar
Thanks for showing us the difference.
Can you show the difference between a max attack and zero attack when both are non-shadow?
Awesome video, I remember a video like this in the past, very nice to get an updated experiment!
from 8:30-8:33 you were litary SPITTING facts :D
Great video! Would have been good to see how fast it can be done with your highest IV shadow Ttar!
You always help me when it matters the most Brandon, Thank you for this .!
I know this is old, but I am getting back into the game now, I hope you read my comment though. Because, I do not completelly agree with you, yes the shadow is faster in fainting the pokemon, however it does so loosing more hp, and also, it has less max hp. If your point was to compare them, you should compare to how much total damage can both do (till they faint) because I believe if you bring 6 hundos to a 3-4* raid those will make more total damage than 6 shadow 0 IV (so you may beat it with less people, or even solo it, although it will be slower).
I made a brief calculation and, till they faint, the shadow would beat its opponent if it had 9.9 times more health, however the hundo would beat one that had 15.5 times more health.
In conclusion, it would be nice to see a comparison in a stronger opponent so you can see how much damage they can make till they faint, and maybe explore what IVs would make a shadow pokemon beat a hundo in total "damage till fainted".
Another interesting comparison would be how much damage can a team of 6 shadow (0 IVs) make till the timer of a 5* raid is over (while using max revive after all are fainted keep fighting) vs a team of hundos (since those last longer maybe wont even have time to heal up and continue for that long). Btw, I know these pokemon are super hard to get, I am just wishing it could be tested :)
Pd: It seems you make a video of these every year, so maybe this year's one can have a different test.
Thanks so much for this video.
Never been able to get beter than a 2 star shadow.
This is a real eye opener for a coming back player
That was interesting, but I wish you would have gone against a Legendary to see how much damage each could do before they fainted. Like you've done before where you enter the same battle twice to have an exact comparison. Seems that would have been a more accurate measurement. I never use shadows myself. It's one of my overall goals to "rescue" as many as I can. :)
This is hard to do. Not guaranteed you get hardest hitter
This video made me realize how much I screwed up with purifying. Soooo sad.
Thanks for clarifying.
Would like to see a low IV shadow salemance versus 100% regular rayquaza
Hi Brandon, thank you for the educational video which was really missing for many players. The idea of using shadow Pokémon was always a doubt for me mainly to understand what iv floor should I consider to invest. Comparing to non shadow it doesn’t matter for raiding.
Crazy how level 50 0% has almost the same CPs as level 40 hundo 😂
0IV SHADOW TYRANITAR SO FRICKING RARE!!! BRANDON UR A GOD
Crazy I heard it was better but I haven’t evolved my shadow because I been waiting for a good IV one, I’m currently maxing out my 98% shadow Metagross, will start leveling up my other low IV shadows,seeing this was very interesting
Nice! Ever Since slowpoke comm day I’ve been grinding for candies for my hundo beldum. I quick caught it because I thought that the Ivs would suck.
Thanks for the video and explanation Brandon! That said, I don't like the way Niantic implemented Shadows - they're too OP. A 0% Shadow should not be better than a 100% regular. Otherwise, why should I spend money chasing 100% Legendaries?
so it looks like the trend is max any 3 star shadow. thanks! very helpful.
Oh my god brandon thanks soo much i was transferring soo many shadow pokemon because they weren’t at tier 3 thanks for clearing this up!!
Thank you for giving me a better understanding of shadow Pokemon
I thought u did one of these already. Just watched it. Watched this cuz ur gr8
Just got a 100% shadow larvitar but I don't play that often. Gonna need a few years to max hahahah
Nice
Now you need a part 2: 100% shadow Ttar vs 0% shadow Ttar.
thats obvious, the 100% shadow would be better
But how much better is the question.
This video was helpful
Very informative, new subscriber for you - thank you. More like this please.
Now do the test with a high IV shadow tyranitar
brandon we thank you for the expirement you made sacrificing the xl candy for us to see
you’re fighting very low level Pokémon’s. It’s primarily DPS that’s being taken into account.
So basically a 0 star with 15 attack tyrannitar would perform the same as your 100% in this test.
Is the 20% bonus dmg for shadow better than mega boost? I have a 96% shadow latios and feel tempted to purify it to have a mega hundo. What you guys think?
probably a bad idea, since you can probably get a good one (doesn't need to be 100%) from doing normal raids, but you will never get another 96% chadow latios lol
Thank you for another experiment it was not needed but more than appreciated
Love how scientific your test was.
Thank you for this I needed this to decide for my shadows.
I love your Shadow Nundo Collection Bradon. 🙂
Fantastic experiment and greatly appreciated Brandon! 👍👍👍
Thumbs up for the effort and resource spent!!
This information is huge! Thank you!
i got a shadow shiny charmander yesterday!! i was pretty excited he was 3 stars and I purified him to get him to 100% iv I'm really happy!!!
pretty sure you did this with a houndoom before. good vids tho. i'm not brave enough to power up a 0%. you the man!
now i feel bad for tm'ing frustration from only stuff pokegenie said was good shadow ivs lol.
Good video. Keep it up
Is a shadow pokemon with 80% IV better than a shadow pokemon with 0% IV? Please make a video?
No wonder that a shadow wins bacause 20%+ damage is more that +15atk
But against legendarys it is not the best idea to use such low iv ones for defense 😂