Just like me every fuckin AI game : ah I took down an entire capital, time to declare peace Edit: this is true btw, steel and flesh, someone declared war (AI) I took down their capital and paid to peace, then I also took down an entire faction and made peace
For all of the Sith Empire classes, if you do Light Side choices, almost every social encounter people going to be like, "Why are you being nice? I don't understand you!"
I love it, they just cant wrap their head around the premise that not everyone in the Empire is a complete Psycho, I mean how do they think their society is running?
My LS Sith Inquisitor sparing everyone got incredible reactions ranging from early "You're a terrible Sith. You'll probably die soon, softhearted weakling." all the way until the late game "Such power you have, and yet you show cunning restraint... it must be a brilliant ploy to ingratiate countless fighters to you for sparing them...."
@@fallendeus actually it was discovered atleast as early as 1000BBY as it was listed in a list of forbidden Jedi abilities during that time also SWTOR isn't canon either so it doesn't matter
"Stand down Sith! We will kill you if you fight us!" "Ok what I wanted is not here anyways, I have nothing against you two, I'll go now." "...wait that's not how you play the game!"
Tis always my favorite to go lightside sith warrior it confuses the Jedi to all hell! Jedi: fight us Sith: Nah! Jedi: Wait what? Sith: may the force be with you I'm out. Jedi: WHAT?
Light Side Sith Warrior is one of my absolute favorite things ever. You're the galaxy's biggest troll and everyone is left completely dumbfounded by you. Love it.
definitly the best grey force user character since revan himself just so many epic moments such as the oasis cave nothing beats a jedi saying you a SITH LORD radiate the light and compassion more then a jedi master who is revealed to be so consumed by hate he might as well be a true sith
@@evknucklehead so is swtor and kotr more so for the storylines for you? The gameplay I find rather dull and I’m not one for having a million buttons to remember…just wondering if I’ll have a good time with this game if I approach it as grinding for story?
@@scottcampbell1635 Yes, it is entirely playable as a solo story game, and almost every class story is worthwhile. You could choose not to interact with other players at all and still have a great time
Jedi: Please, let's talk this out. We don't need to resort to bloodshed. Sith: I agree, let's discuss this like civilized people. Jedi: THAT IS NOT HOW THIS IS SUPPOSED TO GO!
@@rimurutempest4945 I think the entire code of the Jedi would disagree. It seems quite absolute: There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity. There is no chaos, there is harmony. There is no death, there is the Force.
It's like the can't handle a reasonable Sith it cause mass confusion or something. Sith: And than the Jedi fell to the darkside, Master Baras: who are you so wise in the way making Jedi fall still gonna try to kill you later but please teach me your ways.
@@ThePa1riot even if they’re not viscous most Jedi you encounter are kinda railroaded into fighting you either because the dialogue wheel doesn’t give you an option that doesn’t pick a fight or because the Jedi automatically assume you’re trying to trick them or throw them off their game.
Literally of all the jedi in these videos, Uldin is the only one that isn't a prideful jackass that turns evil. He recognizes the unusual situation, walks away in peace, lives and let lives. Good on you Uldin for actually acting like the proper example
Master Timmns is a MUCH better example. Uldin made the mistake of claiming he was stronger than you. That's basically a guarantee to get my Sith to prove you wrong. Master Timmns doesn't do any of that nonsense. He's a true Jedi and the one who made a big impression on my Sith Warrior. He was a pretty major part in my story.
@@pogggaming4470 There doesn't seem to be. Most of the Masters we've come across are arrogant and claim to be stronger than you. My character just let it slide with Uldin since he was otherwise very reasonable, even after he got his butt kicked. Plus, my character wanted to plant that seed of doubt in him.
You know a Sith fucking up Jedi with more light side powers and terminology then the Jedi sounds fucking terrifying honestly like the spookiest Halloween
its the most terrfying thing to the jedi because it threatens there very belifs the very idea that the dark side is so unstoppable that anyone who uses it MUST become evil and cruel meaning the entire jedi way of life could be entirly wrong at least to someone first incoutering a light side sith
But doesn't that make more sense in terms of Sith ideology? Trickery and deceit is of the sith, so it makes sense that sith would appear to be light when it suits their needs. Like good palps.
@@KarmasAB123 Ah, I see your point. I had initially wrongly assumed that you meant somethimg along the lines of 'moral sith', which...Let me just say that I find the notion of 'moral sith' disturbing.
@@ilke3192 but why couldn't you be a moral sith? yeah, the kind of sith you see in the main movies are evil selfish pricks; but the teachings of the dark side are all about embracing emotions and using your power. No one ever said you couldn't use that power for 'morally good' things. and honestly the Jedi aren't very 'moral' either. Stealing children and teaching them their every emotion is only a tool at best but most times is a dangerous enemy to be quashed. and if their handling of anakin is any indication they certainly dont believe in actually teaching them HOW to quash that dangerous emotion.
to be fair a light side sith shows that misconception that one must be a evil monster to be a sith when in reality at its core ideal it simply means a force user who takes power in and indulges there emotions its up to the user and there self controll of what emotions are used and how much controll over them you have
Innacurate, they didn't argue for 3 days over Twitter about the NAP and increasingly unrealistic scenarios, only to cave and bring out the ol' reliable "you're not a real libertarian"
That’s a good point, but say I were to detonate my recreational nuke and you were to get caught in the blast radius, now that would just be _such a shame,_ wouldn’t it?
Jedi Knights: The padawan you were seeking is not here Sith: *_Understandable have_** a nice day!* Jedi Knights: Wait what hey hey **confused screaming** _THATS NOT HOW WE PLAY THIS_
playing a neutral/LS warrior is the best. I personally prefer neutral so in this case I would've tried to talk em down but when Zyldix doens't back down, I would've chosen the attack option. IDK if I would've spared him though.
@@KingNazaru fuck that. I don’t follow the light or the dark. I follow my own path. I’ll be lenient and give him multiple warnings but since he insists on fighting. I’ll give him one and then kill.
While it's largely superficial, it's interesting what can be done with the sith warrior on the light side path, especially after the oasis on Tatooine.
That’s why I’m playing a sith warrior with honor atm I follow the dark side but not a full sociopath but at that moment he repents and starts following the light eventually siding with Jedi in dlc clips I’ve seen
I play mine as a cool and aloof guy. He is superior to everyone else because he is Sith, but he doesn't hold it against everyone else for not being Sith. He doesn't bother with the overly emotional crap because it takes energy to get worked up and makes controlling power harder, so it just seems pointless and self-defeating. It helps that his voice is pretty chill.
its my favourite thing to me it someones who indluges and takes power from there emotions but tempers them with the light making a sith warrior close to a grey force user then true sith
I remember when I first played this class. That story arc legitimately made me change my mind at being dark side.. Sith warrior's story in the first half of the game is fucking amazing.
I haven't played this game (as much as I'd like to) but as someone who has mostly just watched the movies and shows, it's refreshing seeing Jedi and Sith actually able to talk to each other without immediately trying to kill each other.
There is another encounter with a fully fledged jedi master on a prison planet. If you are a lightside and very patient sith warrior he will leave you as a friend and share his experience with the order. Later on you receive a friendly mail from him.
This is one of the most perfect moments in SWTOR to show the unique nature of the time, where some sith will not kill needlessly, and some jedi hunt sith like bounty hunters not caring the story just that the sith is dead
Well, Inquisitors are basically the '' SS '' of the Sith's. They are not out there to argue, but to literally exterminate. The Warrior is basically the Military Army branch.
The warrior is also spoon fed opportunity after opportunity, he is basically Fon, he is pushed ahead of his normal trials and only survives Baras because he is stronger than his rival otherwise Baras would of killed him. Unlike the inquisitor the warrior actually learns a thing or two from his master and it alludes to prior training before Tremel brings you to Korriban, the inquisitor is literally a newbie fresh out of slavery and knows 0 about how to be a sith, his master doesn't actually teach him anything because she only sees him as a host, Zash only starts really trying to teach him anything after being trapped. The inquisitor has to claw is way up from nothing to become one of the most powerful sith, their story more alludes to them becoming a Palpatine like figure as they gain more knowledge and power
Light side Sith: "Denounce the Jedi! Embrace the Dark Side!" I would have said "I have found more strength in the light. Return to the Order and reflect on this failure. In time, you will understand the lessons it has taught you." but alas, such an option is never given to us. An oversight by BioWare in regards to purely-light side Sith Warrior characters, I imagine.
Yeah, a shame the scene lets you start it one way but forces you to end it this way. I've not played the game, and don't know the lore behind what a pure blood Sith is, but it'd be a really interesting story to see told fully. Following someone raised in Sith ideals and philosophy, who instead goes on to not only be a paragon of the light, but school and positively influence the Jedi order on how to better follow it, despite facing persecution.
Pureblood Sith are an alien species that are, ironically hybrids of the original alien sith species which were naturally gifted in the dark side and human Jedi who fell to the dark side. Much of Sith culture came from the purebloods even long after they went extinct at the hands of the Jedi.
I think they didn't bother going down that road because true light side sith are too often rejected and killed by the Sith order. A proper light side sith is one who actually cares for the empire and seeks to do what's right for it, but will absolutely get his hands dirty to make it happen if that's what it takes. A true light side sith is largely based in Machiavellian philosophy of good and evil not being black and white, but rather dependent on the outcome. Consider, for example Darth Marr, he is absolutely a dedicated sith, but always seeks what's best for the empire above his own selfishness, unlike most sith.
Well earlier in the game you are exposed to the teachings of an old sith. These teachings is that the sith don’t need to be evil. Sith only really need to embrace passion and their inner emotions. Whereas jedi endorse the lack of emotions and passion, and more of a logic based teachings. I wish there was a way to play as not an evil sith, but a passionate one. As well if there was a special way to endorse these teachings to others. Honestly is the sith lived more like that, they would have a balanced society, but they let their passions overrun them and we get the empire. That’s why I love ambiguous force users, and I think the term is grey jedi, they are basically normal people who would not conform to any normality of either teachings.
You would have to have a pretty strong will to avoid being seduced by the power of the dark side, theres. A reason the Jedi strip emotion. Imagine having all that power and losing your temper. This is why Yoda says those thing lead to .the dark side. Like really really imagine if you yourself just gained that power, it would give you a new sense of confidence, you wouldn't suffer fools. I personally think mediation and basically calming down the ego that would come with power is better than having it fuel your passions. But that's only my opinion.
The dark side is it's own drug, some just have more decorum than others to not give into impulse. There's a reason a grey Jedi doesn't exist, because it's against the dichotomy of the Force. The ones that do are either exiled, by others or themselves, so as to avoid entanglements in the rest of the universe, or they eventually see themselves fully embrace the dark side. The universe simply won't allow it, at least not for very long.
@@christopherclough559 the best method which is kind shown in SWTOR light sith paths is to combine the mantra of the jedi and sith use your emotions but temper them with logic and discpline and training basically do not be a warlord like a syth or a reluctant monk forced to fight like the jedi but be like a knight striving for the best while tempering onesself like a blade
@@ArcNine9Angel there are plenty of grey force users they just arnt united like the sith and jedi many sith and jedi were grey force users such as mace windu who used a grey technquie were he channeled his dark emotions then tempered them with the lightside to make him a better fighter and empower his lightsaber technquies. Yoda also could use such gray technquies as he discoverd the truth of the force threw a anicent ritual on his home world were he fought his inner darkness made real realizing the only way to stop it was to ACCEPT IT as part of himself and so the true nature of the force not light not dark but both in equalibrium or unity.
Jedi 1: you're target is not here sith! Sith: very well I shall take my leave of this place and look elsewhere, farewell gentlemen. Jedi 1: farewell and may the force be with you. Jedi 2: *confused screaming*
@@jeronimomartinezcalsina7690 I mean it makes sense, when people say "balance" is between the Jedi and Sith they don't mean some genocide and some good deeds, they mean using your emotions when necessary, and holding yourself back when you feel yourself going too far.
I always play LS Sith, Warrior and Inquisitor. Sith draw power from their emotions...I just use the positive ones. Love, compassion, hope, curiosity, happiness.
@@JDSleeper And the irony? The Jedi reject those while giving them lip service! You know their code: There is no emotion. As for your Light Sith plays, got any videos or playlists? I wanna see everything you've got!
@@JDSleeper I always got more of a "disgruntled middle-ranking officer" vibe from the LS Sith Warrior. Like he's obviously not "Good" just because he LS, he's still against democracy, still believes in the Empire, and his "Merciful" dialogue still usually only boils down to giving the enemy a polite warning to choose peace before killing them for not listening. So... Not "good", but definitely a breath of fresh air. Like the LS Sith is grumpy, angry, and has authority issues out the ass, definitely lacks the temperament of a Jedi, but where a LS Jedi is like some mythologized Knight holding the line, predominantly restrained and on the defensive, a LS Sith is more of an "Impassioned Crusader" mythologized. Genuinely well-meaning and well-intentioned, honorable and more than fair, but aggressive and on the front lines waging war for whatever cause riled up said passion and not taking anyone's shit.
@@JDSleeper I agree and also negative emotions like anger can be a weapon, if you can control it. Otherwise you can get lost in it. True power of any weapon comes from the heart but only if it is controlled by the mind. And the Sith is a weapon.
I think a Light Side Sith is probably the most dangerous kind of person in terms of potential. Making your enemies confused and causing them to question themselves on a philosophical level is genius because it breaks down the lines. Ulden already showed how it can work; due to the Sith’s unorthodox amicable attitude and non-violent approach, yet still being undeniably Sith, confused him enough that he refused to fight and walked away. Now Ulden will probably go away pondering the encounter and having to reassess what he thinks he knows, which could possibly leading to more Jedi doing the same.
The most likely wisdom he would be given is, a Sith like that is still someone who could potentially denounce the Dark Side and return/turn to the Light Side which means not provoking them into going down a path of darkness by fighting when they don't care for it is the optimal choice
Also it twists the logic and reason a Lightsider normally have and for a padawan, that is often the easiest mistake they make. Either poisonous sense of guilt for letting the villain get away that will cloud their ability to fight in a future encounter and drive them to "do the right thing" and get cut down by someone more experience than they are.
What's funny is that the sith avoided confrontation and didn't even lie to get what he wants thus showing that you don't need a stupid cult to know true strength
These are great! I love the Sith Warrior storyline overall. The best for me is during Knights of The Fallen Empire when you reunite with Vette if you choose to marry her. She is just so happy and immediately kisses and tries to seduce her husband but then again that is our Vette lol. I am very much looking forward to the new expansion coming out hopefully next month or in December. Keep up the great work!
@@AzureKyle She really is. Honestly Vette is the only companion I will romance with the Sith Warrior. I just wish they added same sex romance for the class companions so I can romance Vette as a female not just a male character. Oh well lol
It is really funny because the Jedi are like "Stand down, you filth!" and the player is just like "Ok! I have no need to fight." and the Jedi are just left confused because they really thought they were about to see some action.
I wish there was an option to invoke the light side during the final dialogue. "Is there such power in the dark side?" "I wouldn't know, I've only ever embraced the light."
I'm confused by the amount of comments saying this. You literally pick a sith in the beginning, so it would make no sense contextually to add that to the game.
@@rd22.rd22 The "sides" of the force are just methods of usage, the force is an energy field at the end of things. Strong emotions are just, well, LITERALLY stronger (ie Adrenaline for instance when in great pain) than no emotion, so generally sith are stronger.
I love this part in the story for both light side and dark side. For light side, you played the Jedi with their light side code. For dark side...you're a master troll. *"I embrace you, 'brother', in a combat to the death!"*
Nothing like a Sith using the light side to convert a jedi into a Dark Jedi, or better yet, a Sith. LOL my main is a Sage who will get the mission done by any means necessary (usually the more expedient way that doesn't require talking and reflection) and save her loved one's in much the same way. It makes for a very interesting story.
Light side sith warrior class is my all time favorite. There's just something so satisfying about playing a "just & noble" sith rath than a typical light side jedi. Even playing a dark jedi can bd a lot of fun.
Defeating 2 jedi by using peaceful negotiations against them, making their commitment for peace and order conflict with their duty to defeat the dark side is the most sith shit I’ve ever seen!
Love that the Jedi have tgeir own preconceptions of the Sith and when they encounter one bright enough to think outside of the box, they start to get frustrated and question themselves.
i like the old republic. we get to see sith who arent bloodythirsty maniacs. take darth marr for example, pragmatic, intelligent and willing to work with the jedi when it serves the greater good. or lana beniko, she is very progressive and intelligent, plus she has a healthy sense of humor.
@@Ancelle_art acina is also pretty cool in her way, under her rule, the sith empire became much more tolerant and open to change. they abandoned their prejudice against non humans and judging by the likes of major anri, a great many slaves were freed and allowed to have careers in the imperial military.
He was terrible. It was the wrong decision. They were at war and it's his job to stick to his guns and make them not at war by fully expiring Sith motivations, and pulling him out of the Empire of death. And then go smack those warcriming senators upside the head.
What is evil, offering to walk away? He is hunting a Padawan not for a defined reason. As far as they are concerned were they told, that he is there to fight but then he offers to walk away. That's not very evil. Full Light side Sith doesn't even screw with Willsaam leavers her a Jedi even. Not very evil.
You know personally I think that being sith dosen't mean being evil and murderhobo everything you came across. For me it means kill who activly try to oppose you or that would be a threat for you in the future or convert to the dark side.
Darth bane is good in this thema. He teach his apprantice, that you should only kill a person, when this lead to a profit for you. A useless person now, can become usefull in the future.
@@grimlord3181 Well yeah in general canon. But one can argue being a "grey jedi" is being a sith. To understand one's emotions and not limit them. However most become drunk off the fact that the dark side gives them so much power. But a sith with temperance is much more dangerous in the long term than a psychopath.
The Canon is that what defines the Dark side id is selfishness and defying the will of the force for the sake of personal power vs the jedi who are meant to listen to and follow the will of the force even if it means separating themselves from their humanity. If you determine the will of the force to be the greater good than Jedi are good guys and sith are bad. If you don't than honestly both sides taken to extremes suck and true good would be somewhere in the middle. Capable of working for the good of more than oneself without losing oneself or your ability to form attachments with others(something both sides oddly agree on destroying). Thus is why the concept of a "gray jedi" is so appealing to people.
I really like this stalemate angle between the Jedi & Sith. It really demonstrates the power both sides have & they have an understanding of their foes, knowing a direct fight is a major gamble.
most fun ive had in swtor was with lightsided sith and a darkside jedi knight. i remember a scene on nar shaddaa, where the jedi knight would just walk into an imperial base and acts like he is the sith those people follow. or those children who live on the lower levels of coruscant, where you have to fix a broken water pipe. good times
Jedi: Please, let's talk this out. We don't need to resort to bloodshed. Sith: I agree, let's discuss this like civilized people. Jedi: THAT IS NOT HOW THIS IS SUPPOSED TO GO! Other Jedi: ...finally, someone with a lick of sense. Let's sit down and- Jedi: NO! SITH ARE EVIL AND BAD AND WRONG! Other Jedi: ...oh my.
Off topic and probably not appropriate, but...does anyone else find the models of the two human characters strange? The textures look plastic and extremely pink on the cheeks and nose. As though under heavy make-up (0:55). And the proportions of facial features (chin especially) and chest muscles looks very off (1:37). Is that a stylistic choice or is something weird going on there?
I like LS Sith Warrior. I mean, "darkside" choice is often just being jerk or cause meaningless bloodshed that doesn't benefit the Warrior himself much. I like to imagine DS is much more impactful and meaningful thing and Sith are calculated and smart.
I agree. and with SW dark side choice actually make you play as a braindead waagh berserk who should NOT have survived up to this point. Because of how much evidence of his actions he leaves and how unsubtle he is. He would get executed by any high ranking sith....
thats mostly because while the sith and jedi code actually come across as ideals to be followed, dark and light side are presented as moral extreems; and we tend to think of the ultimate evil as someone who selfishly and indecriminately throws away lives because 'lol that was badass'; and not the long game of slowly gaslighting and emotionally starving small children so that one day they fanatically follow your every word - I mean...
the "canons" for the characters does show that the canon light side sith warrior as just that someone who was brilliant and powerfull yet more noble and compassionate then any sith before him Lord Wrath ironically was very unlikely to be blindidly wrathfull
Jedi: Please we can talk this out! Sith: Yea ok Jedi: *ignites lightsaber* violence is the… only… way sith…. Uhhhhh Sith: Ima just go. Jedi: FIGHT ME!!!
Such a cool interaction, I love when star wars who is often so black and white allows itself to have some grey zones and pose some difficult questions.
I loved the writing for a Light Side Sith when playing through the games. Your focus is always more about the Empire itself, being reasonable with your opponents or finding creative ways to get around problems that don't involve brute force. And most of the time, the Sith Lords etc that witness you doing this might hitch eyebrows but they can't really deny your effectiveness all the same.
It's how a, well, WARRIOR should be. Doing whatever gets the mission done instead of self-centered dumbassary. The sith had so much of it only two ended up existing, and they STILL went for themselves 99.9% of the time. Like they are, at base, more powerful then Jedi, so if they tempered their power a LITTLE instead of going full self-mode, they would have won.
Turning a rash fool to the dark side is so much more twisted than just simply killing them and is proper for a Sith, even if you don't get those delicious dark side points. Really wouldn't this just eventually net you more in the long run?
This is my favorite type of Dark Side RP. Not appearing straight up evil, or even malevolent. Just taking what's good and corrupting it, slowly. The worst kind of evil. The kind that convinces you that it's not evil, until it's too late.
Looks like the Sith knows the 76th Rule of Acquisition: Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies.
Just like me every fuckin AI game : ah I took down an entire capital, time to declare peace
Edit: this is true btw, steel and flesh, someone declared war (AI) I took down their capital and paid to peace, then I also took down an entire faction and made peace
Can’t forget rule 35, peace is good for business
@@humanbeing1931 Or rule 34, War is good for business.
@Naveen KV You've never watched Star Trek before. That's the original rule 34.
@Naveen KV I'm well aware that you were. I was trying to be a smartass.
For all of the Sith Empire classes, if you do Light Side choices, almost every social encounter people going to be like, "Why are you being nice? I don't understand you!"
I love it, they just cant wrap their head around the premise that not everyone in the Empire is a complete Psycho, I mean how do they think their society is running?
My LS Sith Inquisitor sparing everyone got incredible reactions ranging from early "You're a terrible Sith. You'll probably die soon, softhearted weakling." all the way until the late game "Such power you have, and yet you show cunning restraint... it must be a brilliant ploy to ingratiate countless fighters to you for sparing them...."
My inquisitor was merciful short of betrayal & untrustworthiness. Was punishable by choke or shock, & in extreme cases, death.
@@JB-xl2jc I mean... that was the reasoning behind half of my light side choices on inquisitor...
Playing Light Sith and Dark Jedi are both equally fun and rewarding
"You're a Sith! That means you're a bad guy!"
"Well, maybe I don't want to be the bad guy anymore."
@@OfficerHotpants Actually there is a jedi ability call electric justice which is essentially jedi force lightning
@@shadowxxe Which A) isn't cannon anymore (as of yet) and B) was only something that was discovered during the new republic era and beyond.
@@fallendeus actually it was discovered atleast as early as 1000BBY as it was listed in a list of forbidden Jedi abilities during that time also SWTOR isn't canon either so it doesn't matter
“I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.”
― Darth Wreck-it-Ralph
@@henrikmonkee I remember that line! That's what he said right before he killed the younglings with DarkLord Shrek-chan
"Stand down Sith! We will kill you if you fight us!"
"Ok what I wanted is not here anyways, I have nothing against you two, I'll go now."
"...wait that's not how you play the game!"
Xylixx: GET BACK HERE AND FIGHT US
Sith: nah
Xylixx: graaaaaaaagh
Xylixx, servant of the REEEEEEEE-public
Tis always my favorite to go lightside sith warrior it confuses the Jedi to all hell!
Jedi: fight us
Sith: Nah!
Jedi: Wait what?
Sith: may the force be with you I'm out.
Jedi: WHAT?
@@OthelloSilvermoon NOMAN KAAAAAARR, THE MEAN SITH WON'T PLAY WITH MEEEEEE
@@aaron75fy Noman Karr *confused screaming*
Light Side Sith Warrior is one of my absolute favorite things ever. You're the galaxy's biggest troll and everyone is left completely dumbfounded by you. Love it.
definitly the best grey force user character since revan himself just so many epic moments such as the oasis cave nothing beats a jedi saying you a SITH LORD radiate the light and compassion more then a jedi master who is revealed to be so consumed by hate he might as well be a true sith
I always said. Sith use their emotion for power. Jedi use serene detachment. There are a lot of positive emotions, you just need therapy tbh
I've done the light-side Sith Inquisitor storyline, maybe one of these days I'll get back on SWTOR and try the light side warrior...
@@evknucklehead so is swtor and kotr more so for the storylines for you? The gameplay I find rather dull and I’m not one for having a million buttons to remember…just wondering if I’ll have a good time with this game if I approach it as grinding for story?
@@scottcampbell1635 Yes, it is entirely playable as a solo story game, and almost every class story is worthwhile. You could choose not to interact with other players at all and still have a great time
Jedi: Please, let's talk this out. We don't need to resort to bloodshed.
Sith: I agree, let's discuss this like civilized people.
Jedi: THAT IS NOT HOW THIS IS SUPPOSED TO GO!
Other Jedi: ...finally, someone with a lick of sense. Let's sit down and-
Jedi: NO! SITH ARE EVIL AND BAD AND WRONG!
Other Jedi: ...oh my.
@@Nehfarius Seems like the Jedi are banking on the Sith's reputation for violence as being justification to indulge in their own rampant bloodlust.
@@Nehfarius Only Siths deal in absolutes
So uncivilized
@@rimurutempest4945 I think the entire code of the Jedi would disagree. It seems quite absolute:
There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no chaos, there is harmony.
There is no death, there is the Force.
Jedi; "The Padawan you seek is not here!"
Sith; "Alright, I shall leave then. Have a nice day."
Jedi; * confused Pikachu *
It's like the can't handle a reasonable Sith it cause mass confusion or something.
Sith: And than the Jedi fell to the darkside, Master
Baras: who are you so wise in the way making Jedi fall still gonna try to kill you later but please teach me your ways.
@@OthelloSilvermoon Sith: Oh please, just use reason and appear as if you were following the light. They will go nuts over a reasonable sith.
Have a nice day is perfect
@@KamikazeMedias I can't add anything to this!
obiwan: finally, a civilized sith lord
Hey, for once a Jedi who's not a bloodthirsty maniac. And another who will make a fine Sith one day.
You mean the fine sith who probably died before becoming one
yep lol
Most Jedi in this game are pretty zen, the ones that are more vicious stand out precisely because that’s not what a Jedi is supposed to be.
@@ThePa1riot even if they’re not viscous most Jedi you encounter are kinda railroaded into fighting you either because the dialogue wheel doesn’t give you an option that doesn’t pick a fight or because the Jedi automatically assume you’re trying to trick them or throw them off their game.
fine sith? i doubt he would even survived the slugs during the korriban trials
Zylixx: "You're forcing my hand, Sith!"
Sith: "Actually... You're forcing mine." (plays Uno Reverse Card)
Zylixx: "DAMN IT-"
I always knew that card was of the Dark Side
You can also expose Zylixx's darkness if you're playing the third alignment, the Sass-Side Sith
The one you say im a better jedi than you are?
@@joaquinmarichal Yes
Nice lungs he has there.
@@501ststormtrooper9 Vette approves
He gets so pissy about it it's glorious. I did the first time as a moderately light-sided sith and I loved it. Greatly recommend
Literally of all the jedi in these videos, Uldin is the only one that isn't a prideful jackass that turns evil. He recognizes the unusual situation, walks away in peace, lives and let lives. Good on you Uldin for actually acting like the proper example
Master Timmns is a MUCH better example. Uldin made the mistake of claiming he was stronger than you. That's basically a guarantee to get my Sith to prove you wrong. Master Timmns doesn't do any of that nonsense. He's a true Jedi and the one who made a big impression on my Sith Warrior. He was a pretty major part in my story.
You seem to forget Nomen Karr turns bad too, ranting about the glory of defeating Baras.
@@suicune2001I mean, Uldin is just a Jedi knight while Timms is a Jedi master, there is a difference
@@pogggaming4470 There doesn't seem to be. Most of the Masters we've come across are arrogant and claim to be stronger than you. My character just let it slide with Uldin since he was otherwise very reasonable, even after he got his butt kicked. Plus, my character wanted to plant that seed of doubt in him.
very few jedi in this game are what jedi should be as an idea.
You know a Sith fucking up Jedi with more light side powers and terminology then the Jedi sounds fucking terrifying honestly like the spookiest Halloween
its the most terrfying thing to the jedi because it threatens there very belifs the very idea that the dark side is so unstoppable that anyone who uses it MUST become evil and cruel meaning the entire jedi way of life could be entirly wrong at least to someone first incoutering a light side sith
Jedi Master: "Only a Sith Lord deals in absolutes!"
Padawan: "That's an absolute statement, Master."
Jedi: "Who are you to lecture us on the light side?! The Sith force us to take measures like this!!!!!"
Light Side Jugg: "Bruh"
My light side Corruption Sorc: Uh….huh…..
Sounds like someone is dealing in absolutes.
@@eray97 only a sith deals in absolutes. Anakin: "jedi hypocrisy, but it's Kenobi and he's cool"
-Who are you to lecture us on the light side?!
-Someone you’re actively trained not to be?
It's a marauder.
I hate how you can try to persuade them that you're light side, but when they lose, you suddenly can only promote Sith tradition.
But doesn't that make more sense in terms of Sith ideology? Trickery and deceit is of the sith, so it makes sense that sith would appear to be light when it suits their needs. Like good palps.
@@ilke3192 But it doesn't let play an honest sith. Like maybe I'm actually a good guy, or maybe I'm a honest trickster, the most devious of all :D
@@KarmasAB123 Ah, I see your point. I had initially wrongly assumed that you meant somethimg along the lines of 'moral sith', which...Let me just say that I find the notion of 'moral sith' disturbing.
@@ilke3192 but why couldn't you be a moral sith? yeah, the kind of sith you see in the main movies are evil selfish pricks; but the teachings of the dark side are all about embracing emotions and using your power. No one ever said you couldn't use that power for 'morally good' things. and honestly the Jedi aren't very 'moral' either. Stealing children and teaching them their every emotion is only a tool at best but most times is a dangerous enemy to be quashed. and if their handling of anakin is any indication they certainly dont believe in actually teaching them HOW to quash that dangerous emotion.
to be fair a light side sith shows that misconception that one must be a evil monster to be a sith when in reality at its core ideal it simply means a force user who takes power in and indulges there emotions its up to the user and there self controll of what emotions are used and how much controll over them you have
Chad Sith: "I'm not immediately attacking you, so you cannot attack me according to the NAP."
Libertarian Jedi: "Fuck."
Innacurate, they didn't argue for 3 days over Twitter about the NAP and increasingly unrealistic scenarios, only to cave and bring out the ol' reliable "you're not a real libertarian"
Egoist Smuggler: "Hippity Hoppity your property is now my property."
Jedi & Sith: "Wait no that's illegal."
That’s a good point, but say I were to detonate my recreational nuke and you were to get caught in the blast radius, now that would just be _such a shame,_ wouldn’t it?
@@0th_Law Smuggler: *Kicks Jedi and Sith in the testicles*
NAP?
Jedi Knights: The padawan you were seeking is not here
Sith: *_Understandable have_** a nice day!*
Jedi Knights: Wait what hey hey **confused screaming** _THATS NOT HOW WE PLAY THIS_
Jedis are really funny drama queen material
Sith: Thank you, that's all I needed to hear! May the Force be with you.
Jedi Knights:...F*ck.
playing a neutral/LS warrior is the best. I personally prefer neutral so in this case I would've tried to talk em down but when Zyldix doens't back down, I would've chosen the attack option. IDK if I would've spared him though.
Being neutral Sith Warrior is awesome. Though I think I heard you can have Zyldix convert to becoming a Sith.
@@KingNazaru fuck that. I don’t follow the light or the dark. I follow my own path. I’ll be lenient and give him multiple warnings but since he insists on fighting. I’ll give him one and then kill.
@@KingNazaru close enough, you can either talk him into joining, or into 'considering his life's goals'. Works on neutral sith too
i love being neutral; it even leaves space to self insert to make childhood dreams come true
Man I always adored how freaking confused people are if you play a "nice" Sith.
Gaslighting Jedi is the best part of the SW storyline
While it's largely superficial, it's interesting what can be done with the sith warrior on the light side path, especially after the oasis on Tatooine.
That’s why I’m playing a sith warrior with honor atm I follow the dark side but not a full sociopath but at that moment he repents and starts following the light eventually siding with Jedi in dlc clips I’ve seen
I play mine as a cool and aloof guy. He is superior to everyone else because he is Sith, but he doesn't hold it against everyone else for not being Sith. He doesn't bother with the overly emotional crap because it takes energy to get worked up and makes controlling power harder, so it just seems pointless and self-defeating. It helps that his voice is pretty chill.
its my favourite thing to me it someones who indluges and takes power from there emotions but tempers them with the light making a sith warrior close to a grey force user then true sith
I remember when I first played this class. That story arc legitimately made me change my mind at being dark side..
Sith warrior's story in the first half of the game is fucking amazing.
Jedi: Draw goddammit!
Sith: Why?
Jedi: I said draw!!
Sith: No.
Jedi: YES!!!
Rdr2 😩
Xith: "Very well, Jedi... Draw four, and blue."
Zylixx: "DAMN IT-"
I visualised the Jedi provoking the Sith into a Yu-Gi-Oh duel reading that :')
Jim Boy Calloway.
Fasest left handed lightsabre duelist in the Sith
Ortan Cela: *I stabbed him in the back... I stabbed him in the goddamn back!*
Veshikk: Well these things happen-
Jedi: *Asks for peace*
Sith: *Pursues peace*
Jedi: *Confused unga bunga*
I haven't played this game (as much as I'd like to) but as someone who has mostly just watched the movies and shows, it's refreshing seeing Jedi and Sith actually able to talk to each other without immediately trying to kill each other.
There is another encounter with a fully fledged jedi master on a prison planet. If you are a lightside and very patient sith warrior he will leave you as a friend and share his experience with the order. Later on you receive a friendly mail from him.
@@mat5669 baldie never made it off the planet whenever i played
This is one of the most perfect moments in SWTOR to show the unique nature of the time, where some sith will not kill needlessly, and some jedi hunt sith like bounty hunters not caring the story just that the sith is dead
Warrior uses his brain more than the inquisitor, I’ve noticed
Why use brain when you got force lightning ;)
Yawn* bzzzt
inquisitors be like: ha ha Lightning go brrrrrr
Well, Inquisitors are basically the '' SS '' of the Sith's. They are not out there to argue, but to literally exterminate.
The Warrior is basically the Military Army branch.
The warrior is also spoon fed opportunity after opportunity, he is basically Fon, he is pushed ahead of his normal trials and only survives Baras because he is stronger than his rival otherwise Baras would of killed him. Unlike the inquisitor the warrior actually learns a thing or two from his master and it alludes to prior training before Tremel brings you to Korriban, the inquisitor is literally a newbie fresh out of slavery and knows 0 about how to be a sith, his master doesn't actually teach him anything because she only sees him as a host, Zash only starts really trying to teach him anything after being trapped. The inquisitor has to claw is way up from nothing to become one of the most powerful sith, their story more alludes to them becoming a Palpatine like figure as they gain more knowledge and power
Light side Sith: "Denounce the Jedi! Embrace the Dark Side!"
I would have said "I have found more strength in the light. Return to the Order and reflect on this failure. In time, you will understand the lessons it has taught you." but alas, such an option is never given to us. An oversight by BioWare in regards to purely-light side Sith Warrior characters, I imagine.
you: sophisticated comment
me: lightsaber go brrrr
@@hiddio my social skills in a nutshell.
Yeah, a shame the scene lets you start it one way but forces you to end it this way. I've not played the game, and don't know the lore behind what a pure blood Sith is, but it'd be a really interesting story to see told fully. Following someone raised in Sith ideals and philosophy, who instead goes on to not only be a paragon of the light, but school and positively influence the Jedi order on how to better follow it, despite facing persecution.
Pureblood Sith are an alien species that are, ironically hybrids of the original alien sith species which were naturally gifted in the dark side and human Jedi who fell to the dark side.
Much of Sith culture came from the purebloods even long after they went extinct at the hands of the Jedi.
I think they didn't bother going down that road because true light side sith are too often rejected and killed by the Sith order. A proper light side sith is one who actually cares for the empire and seeks to do what's right for it, but will absolutely get his hands dirty to make it happen if that's what it takes. A true light side sith is largely based in Machiavellian philosophy of good and evil not being black and white, but rather dependent on the outcome. Consider, for example Darth Marr, he is absolutely a dedicated sith, but always seeks what's best for the empire above his own selfishness, unlike most sith.
This Sith uses light side to get rid of Jedi, while the Jedi is using the dark side!
I just love it when you exposed a Jedi that's more Darker than a Sith.
Well earlier in the game you are exposed to the teachings of an old sith. These teachings is that the sith don’t need to be evil. Sith only really need to embrace passion and their inner emotions. Whereas jedi endorse the lack of emotions and passion, and more of a logic based teachings. I wish there was a way to play as not an evil sith, but a passionate one. As well if there was a special way to endorse these teachings to others. Honestly is the sith lived more like that, they would have a balanced society, but they let their passions overrun them and we get the empire. That’s why I love ambiguous force users, and I think the term is grey jedi, they are basically normal people who would not conform to any normality of either teachings.
Yes the close thing we get to that on film is Luke in return of the Jedi
No look at Disney that Luke was not luke anymore
You would have to have a pretty strong will to avoid being seduced by the power of the dark side, theres. A reason the Jedi strip emotion.
Imagine having all that power and losing your temper. This is why Yoda says those thing lead to .the dark side.
Like really really imagine if you yourself just gained that power, it would give you a new sense of confidence, you wouldn't suffer fools.
I personally think mediation and basically calming down the ego that would come with power is better than having it fuel your passions. But that's only my opinion.
The dark side is it's own drug, some just have more decorum than others to not give into impulse. There's a reason a grey Jedi doesn't exist, because it's against the dichotomy of the Force. The ones that do are either exiled, by others or themselves, so as to avoid entanglements in the rest of the universe, or they eventually see themselves fully embrace the dark side. The universe simply won't allow it, at least not for very long.
@@christopherclough559 the best method which is kind shown in SWTOR light sith paths is to combine the mantra of the jedi and sith use your emotions but temper them with logic and discpline and training basically do not be a warlord like a syth or a reluctant monk forced to fight like the jedi but be like a knight striving for the best while tempering onesself like a blade
@@ArcNine9Angel there are plenty of grey force users they just arnt united like the sith and jedi many sith and jedi were grey force users such as mace windu who used a grey technquie were he channeled his dark emotions then tempered them with the lightside to make him a better fighter and empower his lightsaber technquies.
Yoda also could use such gray technquies as he discoverd the truth of the force threw a anicent ritual on his home world were he fought his inner darkness made real realizing the only way to stop it was to ACCEPT IT as part of himself and so the true nature of the force not light not dark but both in equalibrium or unity.
Jedi 1: you're target is not here sith!
Sith: very well I shall take my leave of this place and look elsewhere, farewell gentlemen.
Jedi 1: farewell and may the force be with you.
Jedi 2: *confused screaming*
A true master of the darkside "controls" the darkside not the other way around...Jedi
Lord momin doesnt believe that
@@jeronimomartinezcalsina7690 XD
A true Jensaraii/Imperial Knights moment
@@jeronimomartinezcalsina7690 I mean it makes sense, when people say "balance" is between the Jedi and Sith they don't mean some genocide and some good deeds, they mean using your emotions when necessary, and holding yourself back when you feel yourself going too far.
Sith: Look at me.
Jedi: Wha-
Sith: I'm the Jedimaster now.
Stuff like this is why playing as a Light Sith is great!
I always play LS Sith, Warrior and Inquisitor. Sith draw power from their emotions...I just use the positive ones. Love, compassion, hope, curiosity, happiness.
@@JDSleeper And the irony? The Jedi reject those while giving them lip service! You know their code: There is no emotion.
As for your Light Sith plays, got any videos or playlists? I wanna see everything you've got!
@@JDSleeper I always got more of a "disgruntled middle-ranking officer" vibe from the LS Sith Warrior. Like he's obviously not "Good" just because he LS, he's still against democracy, still believes in the Empire, and his "Merciful" dialogue still usually only boils down to giving the enemy a polite warning to choose peace before killing them for not listening.
So... Not "good", but definitely a breath of fresh air. Like the LS Sith is grumpy, angry, and has authority issues out the ass, definitely lacks the temperament of a Jedi, but where a LS Jedi is like some mythologized Knight holding the line, predominantly restrained and on the defensive, a LS Sith is more of an "Impassioned Crusader" mythologized. Genuinely well-meaning and well-intentioned, honorable and more than fair, but aggressive and on the front lines waging war for whatever cause riled up said passion and not taking anyone's shit.
@@patchwurk6652 A good quote to sum LS Warrior up is 'The Sith deserve a better Empire, but the Empire also deserves better Sith.'
@@JDSleeper I agree and also negative emotions like anger can be a weapon, if you can control it. Otherwise you can get lost in it. True power of any weapon comes from the heart but only if it is controlled by the mind. And the Sith is a weapon.
I think a Light Side Sith is probably the most dangerous kind of person in terms of potential. Making your enemies confused and causing them to question themselves on a philosophical level is genius because it breaks down the lines.
Ulden already showed how it can work; due to the Sith’s unorthodox amicable attitude and non-violent approach, yet still being undeniably Sith, confused him enough that he refused to fight and walked away. Now Ulden will probably go away pondering the encounter and having to reassess what he thinks he knows, which could possibly leading to more Jedi doing the same.
The most likely wisdom he would be given is, a Sith like that is still someone who could potentially denounce the Dark Side and return/turn to the Light Side which means not provoking them into going down a path of darkness by fighting when they don't care for it is the optimal choice
@@ameliakyle7054 "Look, just because I'm a Sith doesn't mean I have to be an asshole. We can talk things out. It's a job like anything else."
Also it twists the logic and reason a Lightsider normally have and for a padawan, that is often the easiest mistake they make. Either poisonous sense of guilt for letting the villain get away that will cloud their ability to fight in a future encounter and drive them to "do the right thing" and get cut down by someone more experience than they are.
Jedi: Begone as you're a threat
LS Sith: Okay
Jedi: Wait... what 😯
What's funny is that the sith avoided confrontation and didn't even lie to get what he wants thus showing that you don't need a stupid cult to know true strength
👏👏👏👏👏👏🏆
There's an old Sith proverb. "Every so often, show your enemy mercy. It confuses them."
Sith outplays foolish Jedi with facts and logic
Jedi: Surrender Sith!
Sith: I surrender..... I want no bloodshed!
Also Jedi: THAT'S NOT HOW YOU PLAY THE GAME!!!
jedi: what you seek is not here go away
sith: okay
jedi: *jedi.exe has stopped working*
This isn't even the Sith's fault at this point. This is just Self Defense
Ig there’s a reason they say the Jedi code isn’t fit for warfare.
"Is the Dark Side really so much stronger?"
"No... You just suck."
These are great! I love the Sith Warrior storyline overall. The best for me is during Knights of The Fallen Empire when you reunite with Vette if you choose to marry her. She is just so happy and immediately kisses and tries to seduce her husband but then again that is our Vette lol. I am very much looking forward to the new expansion coming out hopefully next month or in December. Keep up the great work!
I prefer Lanas reason and calmness. Vette is a little over the top for my taste.
Vette is the best, she reminds me so much of Mission from Kotor (and yes I know same VA and similar looks) Who was one of my favorite characters.
@@AzureKyle She really is. Honestly Vette is the only companion I will romance with the Sith Warrior. I just wish they added same sex romance for the class companions so I can romance Vette as a female not just a male character. Oh well lol
@@codywhite6337 Yeah, I started my Jugg as a DS character, but then after meeting Vette, roleplayed in my head that she turned him to the Light.
@@AzureKyle Nice! Man I cannot wait for the new expansion to launch soon. It is going to be a lot of fun
I love how quickly the one jedi goes from "Murder all the Sith" to "Maybe the Dark side isnt so bad", really shows his priorities
It is really funny because the Jedi are like "Stand down, you filth!" and the player is just like "Ok! I have no need to fight." and the Jedi are just left confused because they really thought they were about to see some action.
I wish there was an option to invoke the light side during the final dialogue.
"Is there such power in the dark side?"
"I wouldn't know, I've only ever embraced the light."
I'm confused by the amount of comments saying this. You literally pick a sith in the beginning, so it would make no sense contextually to add that to the game.
@@rd22.rd22 The "sides" of the force are just methods of usage, the force is an energy field at the end of things. Strong emotions are just, well, LITERALLY stronger (ie Adrenaline for instance when in great pain) than no emotion, so generally sith are stronger.
@@rd22.rd22 it's becouse they already given you light option as sith so many would like to make full redemtion arc
I love this part in the story for both light side and dark side.
For light side, you played the Jedi with their light side code.
For dark side...you're a master troll.
*"I embrace you, 'brother', in a combat to the death!"*
Jedi: Are you a calm and reasonable person
Sith: Yes
Jedi: You're not suppose to say that
They really nailed the portrayal of the Jedi in this game, including the nuances and the flaws, right down to their overly abstract speech patterns.
Nothing like a Sith using the light side to convert a jedi into a Dark Jedi, or better yet, a Sith. LOL
my main is a Sage who will get the mission done by any means necessary (usually the more expedient way that doesn't require talking and reflection) and save her loved one's in much the same way. It makes for a very interesting story.
Just started a neutral/light side Warrior run, and a Dark Jedi too.
Inspiration courtesy of this series of course.
Dark Jedi is also interesting I found, loved it
"You're a Sith! You're supposed to be evil!"
"Dude, all I wanted was to be a walking tesla coil, but nooooooo..."
"Understandab- WAIT A MINUTE!!"
Light side sith warrior class is my all time favorite. There's just something so satisfying about playing a "just & noble" sith rath than a typical light side jedi. Even playing a dark jedi can bd a lot of fun.
Darkness doesn't always mean "bad guy". There can be good in the shadows and bad in the light.
"The Jedi you want isn't here."
"Okay I'll look somewhere else then."
"Wait that worked?"
Defeating 2 jedi by using peaceful negotiations against them, making their commitment for peace and order conflict with their duty to defeat the dark side is the most sith shit I’ve ever seen!
*casually walks up to Jedi*
Jedi: "Stand Down, sith"
Well, I can see when I'm not wanted. Good day.
"We are more than your match!"
*Is a silver*
Fully trained jedi knight is basically just the strength of a sith apprentice
Love it how the Sith tries to be good and everyone's like "kill him with fire"
This entire conversation is literally the sith going "No U " 🤣😂😅 and the Jedi get so confused 🤔
Love that the Jedi have tgeir own preconceptions of the Sith and when they encounter one bright enough to think outside of the box, they start to get frustrated and question themselves.
i like the old republic. we get to see sith who arent bloodythirsty maniacs. take darth marr for example, pragmatic, intelligent and willing to work with the jedi when it serves the greater good. or lana beniko, she is very progressive and intelligent, plus she has a healthy sense of humor.
I agree! Dart Marr and Lana Beniko are one of my favorite characters
@@Ancelle_art acina is also pretty cool in her way, under her rule, the sith empire became much more tolerant and open to change. they abandoned their prejudice against non humans and judging by the likes of major anri, a great many slaves were freed and allowed to have careers in the imperial military.
I love Darth Marr
Got respect the Uldin's convection, he was taught to show restraint and he did.
He's a fine example of a Jedi
He was terrible. It was the wrong decision. They were at war and it's his job to stick to his guns and make them not at war by fully expiring Sith motivations, and pulling him out of the Empire of death. And then go smack those warcriming senators upside the head.
Making him a bad person, and a failure as a guardian of peace.
You don't achieve piece by letting evil walk away.
What is evil, offering to walk away? He is hunting a Padawan not for a defined reason. As far as they are concerned were they told, that he is there to fight but then he offers to walk away. That's not very evil. Full Light side Sith doesn't even screw with Willsaam leavers her a Jedi even. Not very evil.
@@schnek8927 You don't achieve peace by perceiving everything as evil.
Jedi: uses dark side logic against the sith
Sith: You merely adopted the dark side, I was born into it
*proceeds to use light side arguments
You know personally I think that being sith dosen't mean being evil and murderhobo everything you came across. For me it means kill who activly try to oppose you or that would be a threat for you in the future or convert to the dark side.
Play to your strengths and keep those useful more alive. It's what Bariss does ironically enough.
Darth bane is good in this thema. He teach his apprantice, that you should only kill a person, when this lead to a profit for you.
A useless person now, can become usefull in the future.
Sith are kind of evil.
@@grimlord3181 Well yeah in general canon. But one can argue being a "grey jedi" is being a sith. To understand one's emotions and not limit them. However most become drunk off the fact that the dark side gives them so much power. But a sith with temperance is much more dangerous in the long term than a psychopath.
The Canon is that what defines the Dark side id is selfishness and defying the will of the force for the sake of personal power vs the jedi who are meant to listen to and follow the will of the force even if it means separating themselves from their humanity. If you determine the will of the force to be the greater good than Jedi are good guys and sith are bad. If you don't than honestly both sides taken to extremes suck and true good would be somewhere in the middle. Capable of working for the good of more than oneself without losing oneself or your ability to form attachments with others(something both sides oddly agree on destroying). Thus is why the concept of a "gray jedi" is so appealing to people.
Zyldix: Future Jedi Council Member.....only the Jedi deal in absolutes.
The Jedi: *visible confusion*
Love how two fully trained Jedi masters come in to (assumingly) cake walk a lone sith,
both leave intrigued with the sith side
I really like this stalemate angle between the Jedi & Sith. It really demonstrates the power both sides have & they have an understanding of their foes, knowing a direct fight is a major gamble.
Jedi: You idiot, you got tricked. The padawan you’re looking for isn’t here.
Sith: Okay, I’m leaving.
Jedi: Wait.
Sith: oh hey guy what's up?
Jedi: YOURE A MURDERER AND EVIL
Sith: wow and you're racist
Sith: let's go our separate ways
Jedi: *confused screaming*
most fun ive had in swtor was with lightsided sith and a darkside jedi knight.
i remember a scene on nar shaddaa, where the jedi knight would just walk into an imperial
base and acts like he is the sith those people follow.
or those children who live on the lower levels of coruscant, where you have to fix a broken water pipe.
good times
Jedi: Please, let's talk this out. We don't need to resort to bloodshed.
Sith: I agree, let's discuss this like civilized people.
Jedi: THAT IS NOT HOW THIS IS SUPPOSED TO GO!
Other Jedi: ...finally, someone with a lick of sense. Let's sit down and-
Jedi: NO! SITH ARE EVIL AND BAD AND WRONG!
Other Jedi: ...oh my.
_You've come to kill us!_
*Nah, have a good one*
_!?!_
*Give your master my regards~*
Lol
Sith defeats Jedi with facts and logic
Off topic and probably not appropriate, but...does anyone else find the models of the two human characters strange? The textures look plastic and extremely pink on the cheeks and nose. As though under heavy make-up (0:55). And the proportions of facial features (chin especially) and chest muscles looks very off (1:37). Is that a stylistic choice or is something weird going on there?
This game is 10 years old, the graphics don't quite live up to today's standards
I like LS Sith Warrior. I mean, "darkside" choice is often just being jerk or cause meaningless bloodshed that doesn't benefit the Warrior himself much.
I like to imagine DS is much more impactful and meaningful thing and Sith are calculated and smart.
I agree. and with SW dark side choice actually make you play as a braindead waagh berserk who should NOT have survived up to this point. Because of how much evidence of his actions he leaves and how unsubtle he is. He would get executed by any high ranking sith....
thats mostly because while the sith and jedi code actually come across as ideals to be followed, dark and light side are presented as moral extreems; and we tend to think of the ultimate evil as someone who selfishly and indecriminately throws away lives because 'lol that was badass'; and not the long game of slowly gaslighting and emotionally starving small children so that one day they fanatically follow your every word - I mean...
the "canons" for the characters does show that the canon light side sith warrior as just that someone who was brilliant and powerfull yet more noble and compassionate then any sith before him Lord Wrath ironically was very unlikely to be blindidly wrathfull
I don't know, that "Jedi" seems pretty angry and passionate.
Jedi's confusion is the best thing about playing a Sith.
Playing a light Sith is so much fun. You just confuse everyone
Light side sith isn’t real, it can’t hurt you.
Light side sith:
Love how they are voiced by superman
That Jedi was already at the precipice of the Dark Side
If the sith were more like this, they win much more often
Jedi: Please we can talk this out!
Sith: Yea ok
Jedi: *ignites lightsaber* violence is the… only… way sith…. Uhhhhh
Sith: Ima just go.
Jedi: FIGHT ME!!!
I never realized the alliteration Zylixx had: "I have no crisis of conscience assuming his assessment is sound"
Jedi: Light?
Sith: Darkness.
Sith: Light.
Jedi: Light?
Jedi: Darkness.
Me: Chaos.
CHAOS WILL CONSUME ALL!!!
Such a cool interaction, I love when star wars who is often so black and white allows itself to have some grey zones and pose some difficult questions.
There was more story, character development and even action in this 2:56 clip than the whole 'MoDeRn' Star Wars Trilogy. Good job Disney 🙄
I loved the writing for a Light Side Sith when playing through the games. Your focus is always more about the Empire itself, being reasonable with your opponents or finding creative ways to get around problems that don't involve brute force. And most of the time, the Sith Lords etc that witness you doing this might hitch eyebrows but they can't really deny your effectiveness all the same.
It's how a, well, WARRIOR should be. Doing whatever gets the mission done instead of self-centered dumbassary. The sith had so much of it only two ended up existing, and they STILL went for themselves 99.9% of the time.
Like they are, at base, more powerful then Jedi, so if they tempered their power a LITTLE instead of going full self-mode, they would have won.
Turning a rash fool to the dark side is so much more twisted than just simply killing them and is proper for a Sith, even if you don't get those delicious dark side points. Really wouldn't this just eventually net you more in the long run?
Yeah wait, why is the only Dark option killing the idiot? It's way way way more Sith to actively turn them.
That's why I love SWTOR, so many choices and the option of different outcomes.
Light and Dark, Jedi and Sith, it's too arbitrary. The all-time greats always defy such definitions.
Zylaxx: "Who are you to lecture about the light side!"
Sith: "I am sith but quirky."
This is my favorite type of Dark Side RP. Not appearing straight up evil, or even malevolent. Just taking what's good and corrupting it, slowly. The worst kind of evil. The kind that convinces you that it's not evil, until it's too late.
not really the case here
"Mastercard's word is proof enough."
-YT Auto-CCs
Yet more proof that Jedi rather fight then talk to their enemies. At least one was confused so hard to not fight.