There's a difference between kilowatts, the speed with which the DC fast charger is giving your vehicle power, and kilowatt hours (kWh), the capacity of your battery. So when you're charging the speed is 70 kilowatts and not kilowatts per hour. When your charge is complete, the amount of energy that you added to your battery is measured in kWh. I hope that makes sense.
Nice video. Congtratulations on your Ioniq 5! I’m wanting to purchase one soon. Knowing that charging is part of EV ownership, I’m hoping waiting for a charge won’t be a huge deal. I’m sure it will get better as more people own them and as batteries and chargers are improved over time. Having and older ICE car, it is quick to fill and go, but I do hate sitting at the dealership for hours waiting for expensive repairs to be done, waiting in line for an oil change every three months.
If you park head in the charger belonging to your spot still reaches. Parking like you just did when the chargers are busy sometimes leads to chargers not being accessible by other EV drivers. Something to keep in mind
Fabulous car. It can run to 57,000 miles quietly and powerfully. Driving EV makes a person productive. The best time to charge is early in the morning (before anyone else can get to it)
Pro tip: Don't shut off your car while DC Fast Charging. Just hang out inside and poke at your phone, read a book, etc. DCFC is generally best for highway travel use, the *best* place to daily charge is your home or apartment via level 2 while your asleep or watching TV, etc. ABC - Always Be Charging. Treat your EV like a cell phone, and not a gas vehicle.
@Alex I typically don't turn off the car. Most of the time, hang out inside listen to podcasts and collect charging data. Unfortunately, I have no place to charge at home as I live in an apartment complex or a level 2 charger near my house. DCFC is the only way for me to charge.
Its perfect time for ioniq 5! With Tesla Super Chargers now available, im finally decided to go with my first EV, i took it for a test drive, absolutely love the way it drives, so i finally ordered the vehicle, and……………………its not available! because of Port terminal workers strike 🤬😡now i have to freeze my ass on the scooter for another 2 weeks 😤
Keep looking for charging options. Maybe there is a cheaper Level 2 charger near your apartment or place of work vs waiting at a DC fast charger. Also, see if there is a setting you can turn on before you charge that will prep the battery before you get to the charger. I believe the Kia EV6 has something like that. Also, it will charge faster the less battery charge you have. Think blowing air into a balloon. It gets harder and harder as it fills up. Finally, maybe you can find a reliable 350W charger nearby. Remember in the winter you’re battery will lose about 35% of it efficiency and you’ll have to charge more often.
Thank you for the information. I have looked everywhere near my apartment, unfortunately there are no level 2 chargers. Charging infrastructure is still being built up in my area. As far as I know the IONIQ 5 has the technology to pre condition the battery but not enabled in software yet. Hope soon they will add it. Right now I am enjoying the summer months
If you heat your battery up, using the software, it will charge faster. It depends on what model you have if you can do that. Otherwise, if you move to Sport Mode for 4 or 5 miles before going to the charger it will heat your battery up, and speed up charging.
I notice none of the charging stations have overhead covers to keep you from getting rained on or snowed on - I guess you have to sit in your car while charging - I just wonder in a snowy climate will they keep the chargers plowed out so you can get to the chargers?
I'm in the opposite situation. I had a level 2 installed before I got my Ioniq 6 and went from charging at home 100% with my old prius to trying to charge as often on DC fast chargers. Can't beat free. If you can install a home charger after 2 years I would. I use a wallbox pulsar plus still since it delivers the max what the car can take at level 2.
I have only used the 350 kw stall twice as there are no nearby my location. As I charge more on them, I will have a better understanding of the speed on a 350 kw. I have started noticing on a hot day that the battery heats up and takes a while to cool down. The car limits the power during the acceleration. Have you noticed anything similar charging on the 350 kw?
@@PluggingRevolution No I haven’t done any charging during extreme temperatures. Like most EVs the I5 has battery thermal management to either warm or cool the battery pack as needed. Usually the car’s battery management will restrict the charging rate if the battery pack is too hot or cold.
Great video. With free charging sessions offered when new from Hyundai, 350KWh would be the top choice if available. Electrify America needs a better way to identify the KWh from far away. Good video
To be honest, I have driven the car hard before charging somehow the battery still finds a way to get cold. I hope Hyundai enables the battery preconditioning.
Yes you are correct. At the dealership they were saying over and over agin that it can charge at 350 kw. I guess, I had to read the fine print. The battery does warm itself but in my experience if the ambient temperature is below 60F, it can take up to 8 mins for the battery to warm up. In a few cases where the charging speed starts at 120kw then the cold battery sign comes on and the speed drops to 78-85 kw for a few minutes then ramps up to 130 kw. Overall the charging speed is good, I am happy with it so far.
Everytime a battery is charged, it loses a tiny bit of its capacity. A DC fast charger causes that battery to lose more capacity. To make your EV battery pack to last as long as possible always charge at home using the slow charger that came with the car. !
A lot of people get lied to by the UP TO charging speeds without realizing its only in the perfect conditions ie battery can't be too cold or too hot or can't be too full or other stalls must be empty, with the Level3 charger working perfectly, etc... I think its still crazy to buy an EV without home charging option.
Plus: as of March 2024, there isn't a single production passenger EV on the road for under $100,000 take-home that can take the full 350kW that these chargers can deliver (1,000 Volts x 350 Amps = 350,000 Watts / 350 kiloWatts / 350kW) ... the Porsche Taycan Plus can top out at around 320kW as it can take just over 900 Volts at 350 Amps, and the brand new Lotus Emeya is said to be able to hit the 350kW, but you're paying premium money for sports car engineering. Those DC fast chargers are future-proofed. Maybe in 5-10 years the $50,000 level EVs will be able to pull the full amount, but the technology's not quite there yet.
nice,,, you have to pre heat the battery before you fast charge it if you want to get the max off around 240 kw ,, get the grizzl e mini for home charging
the charging curve is not flat,,, charging at around 10% will get the fastest rate,, the higher the battery level the slower it charges ,, it drops alot around 50% then again at around 70 %
In my experience so far, keeping climate controls on doesn't make any difference to the speed of charging. In fact I have gotten better speed with keeping heating on
ya the battery has to be around 70F to get the faster rates ,, use pre conditioning in the setting about 20 miles before the charger,,, the max is not 350,,, thats what you change contect to,,, its max is around 240 kw
The Ionic 5 fast charging is greatly impacted by the weather. Under ideal conditions or once the battery heats up I'm sure your speed will get to the 150kw mark.
I really hope Hyundai provides a software update to enable the battery preconditioning during the winter, the car has the hardware onboard but needs software support. Software is one of the weakness of this car.
So once your account is set up, you don’t have to hit anything to make sure it gives you your free program? I just bought the same car, have not charged yet, but at the dealership I set up my free account with Electrify America. How can you tell a 350 charger vs 150 or 100? Do the chargers show their speed on the unit or screen?
I've seen a video where...under ideal weather conditions you should still get from 10-80% on a 150kw charger in around 22 minutes...it was just cold during this video. Get out Plug and Play EV...he puts out great content on his Ionic 5 and EVs in general.
I know why your car is charging so slow, your cable is bent, the electrons are bumping up and can't move fast enough - you should straighten out the cable next time.
EVs are a JOKE!!! Most get about 250 miles on a full charge, lack of stations, and the friggin time it takes to charge. Gonna be another 20 years till they are even worth having one.
@@PluggingRevolution There are more oil deposits being discovered all the time. There is definitely not a shortage of gasoline in the world, for decades (centuries?) to come.
@@shundawilliams6549 While you are spending hours charging your EV, I will spend minutes filling my gas tank. Compare Accord or Camry to Model 3: they are much cheaper, they have longer range, they have beautiful interior and dashboard, and much better build quality. Accord and Camry also have lower insurance costs, and registration fees too.
@@DerekDavis213 naw thanks, EV's are so much nicer to drive, so much lower maintenance cost, and if you can charge where you live you leave each day with a full tank and never have to deal with grimy gas stations, or some of the characters that frequent those places, don't have noxious fumes nor nearly as many fluids to leak, etc, etc, etc. writing is on the wall, ICE is on the way out, and none too soon for our planet!
There's a difference between kilowatts, the speed with which the DC fast charger is giving your vehicle power, and kilowatt hours (kWh), the capacity of your battery. So when you're charging the speed is 70 kilowatts and not kilowatts per hour. When your charge is complete, the amount of energy that you added to your battery is measured in kWh. I hope that makes sense.
You are correct. These terms are relatively new to me as I am coming from an ICE car. Thank you for the explanation.
Congratulation on your new car. I am sure you will enjoy it.
Nice video. Congtratulations on your Ioniq 5! I’m wanting to purchase one soon. Knowing that charging is part of EV ownership, I’m hoping waiting for a charge won’t be a huge deal. I’m sure it will get better as more people own them and as batteries and chargers are improved over time. Having and older ICE car, it is quick to fill and go, but I do hate sitting at the dealership for hours waiting for expensive repairs to be done, waiting in line for an oil change every three months.
Nice video! Hopefully soon fast EV charging will be available everywhere.🚗 ⚡️
Thank you. I hope so that charging infrastructure keeps up with the cars. I have already starting seeing queuing for EV charging.
If you park head in the charger belonging to your spot still reaches. Parking like you just did when the chargers are busy sometimes leads to chargers not being accessible by other EV drivers. Something to keep in mind
Fabulous car. It can run to 57,000 miles quietly and powerfully. Driving EV makes a person productive. The best time to charge is early in the morning (before anyone else can get to it)
Pro tip: Don't shut off your car while DC Fast Charging. Just hang out inside and poke at your phone, read a book, etc. DCFC is generally best for highway travel use, the *best* place to daily charge is your home or apartment via level 2 while your asleep or watching TV, etc.
ABC - Always Be Charging. Treat your EV like a cell phone, and not a gas vehicle.
@Alex I typically don't turn off the car. Most of the time, hang out inside listen to podcasts and collect charging data. Unfortunately, I have no place to charge at home as I live in an apartment complex or a level 2 charger near my house. DCFC is the only way for me to charge.
Its perfect time for ioniq 5! With Tesla Super Chargers now available, im finally decided to go with my first EV, i took it for a test drive, absolutely love the way it drives, so i finally ordered the vehicle, and……………………its not available! because of Port terminal workers strike 🤬😡now i have to freeze my ass on the scooter for another 2 weeks 😤
Keep looking for charging options. Maybe there is a cheaper Level 2 charger near your apartment or place of work vs waiting at a DC fast charger. Also, see if there is a setting you can turn on before you charge that will prep the battery before you get to the charger. I believe the Kia EV6 has something like that. Also, it will charge faster the less battery charge you have. Think blowing air into a balloon. It gets harder and harder as it fills up. Finally, maybe you can find a reliable 350W charger nearby. Remember in the winter you’re battery will lose about 35% of it efficiency and you’ll have to charge more often.
Thank you for the information. I have looked everywhere near my apartment, unfortunately there are no level 2 chargers. Charging infrastructure is still being built up in my area. As far as I know the IONIQ 5 has the technology to pre condition the battery but not enabled in software yet. Hope soon they will add it. Right now I am enjoying the summer months
11 dollars is insane. Gas at 6 dollars in a Prius would cost the same for the same amount of distance travelled.
Yes that's correct. I have an upcoming video comparing the costs of an EV with ICE and a Hybrid.
If you heat your battery up, using the software, it will charge faster. It depends on what model you have if you can do that. Otherwise, if you move to Sport Mode for 4 or 5 miles before going to the charger it will heat your battery up, and speed up charging.
I notice none of the charging stations have overhead covers to keep you from getting rained on or snowed on - I guess you have to sit in your car while charging - I just wonder in a snowy climate will they keep the chargers plowed out so you can get to the chargers?
Max charging is around 240kW, that’s why you use a 350kW charger
Yes, that is correct.
I'm in the opposite situation. I had a level 2 installed before I got my Ioniq 6 and went from charging at home 100% with my old prius to trying to charge as often on DC fast chargers. Can't beat free. If you can install a home charger after 2 years I would. I use a wallbox pulsar plus still since it delivers the max what the car can take at level 2.
I use the key fob or voice command to open the charging port door. Peak charging rate is actually more like 240 kw.
I have started using the voice more now. I have only seen up to 230kw on my car.
@@PluggingRevolution I have seen 240 kw but you won’t always get that much nor does it stay at that level for long. Cold weather rates are much lower.
I have only used the 350 kw stall twice as there are no nearby my location. As I charge more on them, I will have a better understanding of the speed on a 350 kw. I have started noticing on a hot day that the battery heats up and takes a while to cool down. The car limits the power during the acceleration. Have you noticed anything similar charging on the 350 kw?
@@PluggingRevolution No I haven’t done any charging during extreme temperatures. Like most EVs the I5 has battery thermal management to either warm or cool the battery pack as needed. Usually the car’s battery management will restrict the charging rate if the battery pack is too hot or cold.
Great video. With free charging sessions offered when new from Hyundai, 350KWh would be the top choice if available. Electrify America needs a better way to identify the KWh from far away. Good video
Thank you!
If your charge in evening right after road trip you may get your best charging session
To be honest, I have driven the car hard before charging somehow the battery still finds a way to get cold. I hope Hyundai enables the battery preconditioning.
2 things the car can no do 350kw it can do 234kw. And the battery warms itself up while charging
Yes you are correct. At the dealership they were saying over and over agin that it can charge at 350 kw. I guess, I had to read the fine print. The battery does warm itself but in my experience if the ambient temperature is below 60F, it can take up to 8 mins for the battery to warm up. In a few cases where the charging speed starts at 120kw then the cold battery sign comes on and the speed drops to 78-85 kw for a few minutes then ramps up to 130 kw. Overall the charging speed is good, I am happy with it so far.
Everytime a battery is charged, it loses a tiny bit of its capacity. A DC
fast charger causes that battery to lose more capacity. To make
your EV battery pack to last as long as possible always charge at
home using the slow charger that came with the car.
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use your fob to open the charge door or voice command and also your were towards the top of your battery pack so charging slows down
Thank you for the information. I have tried fob but but the voice command. I well definitely try that.
just say open charge door
A lot of people get lied to by the UP TO charging speeds without realizing its only in the perfect conditions ie battery can't be too cold or too hot or can't be too full or other stalls must be empty, with the Level3 charger working perfectly, etc... I think its still crazy to buy an EV without home charging option.
Plus: as of March 2024, there isn't a single production passenger EV on the road for under $100,000 take-home that can take the full 350kW that these chargers can deliver
(1,000 Volts x 350 Amps = 350,000 Watts / 350 kiloWatts / 350kW)
... the Porsche Taycan Plus can top out at around 320kW as it can take just over 900 Volts at 350 Amps, and the brand new Lotus Emeya is said to be able to hit the 350kW, but you're paying premium money for sports car engineering.
Those DC fast chargers are future-proofed. Maybe in 5-10 years the $50,000 level EVs will be able to pull the full amount, but the technology's not quite there yet.
Does the Ioniq not have a 110 volt charging option? Meaning, you could very slowly charge it from home overnight?
It does have that option but I don't have access to my car from the apartment.
nice,,, you have to pre heat the battery before you fast charge it if you want to get the max off around 240 kw ,, get the grizzl e mini for home charging
You will charge exclusively on DC chargers during ownership... at least first 2 yrs ?
I have no option to charge anywhere else at the moment.
the charging curve is not flat,,, charging at around 10% will get the fastest rate,, the higher the battery level the slower it charges ,, it drops alot around 50% then again at around 70 %
You're getting all your electricity free. I'd plug in, grab a coffee and sit back and relax while your car recharges for nothing.
Keep heating / air coniditiong off for best battery temperature management.
In my experience so far, keeping climate controls on doesn't make any difference to the speed of charging. In fact I have gotten better speed with keeping heating on
ya the battery has to be around 70F to get the faster rates ,, use pre conditioning in the setting about 20 miles before the charger,,, the max is not 350,,, thats what you change contect to,,, its max is around 240 kw
The Ionic 5 fast charging is greatly impacted by the weather. Under ideal conditions or once the battery heats up I'm sure your speed will get to the 150kw mark.
I really hope Hyundai provides a software update to enable the battery preconditioning during the winter, the car has the hardware onboard but needs software support. Software is one of the weakness of this car.
So once your account is set up, you don’t have to hit anything to make sure it gives you your free program? I just bought the same car, have not charged yet, but at the dealership I set up my free account with Electrify America. How can you tell a 350 charger vs 150 or 100? Do the chargers show their speed on the unit or screen?
Yes the charger is labeled with the speed
You are cold gating, needs to be warm 70 reg.F. to get over 120kw
you have to work with j-z in extreme weather conditions get a ecoflow for those idlewhild times
Do you get free 30 min every day, every week?
Only get an EV if you csn charge at home. Public charge for emergency only or travel
Do you have a AWD or RWD?
I have a SE AWD
So it about 40mpg considering a 5 dollar gallon cost. Seems best to stick with the Prius lol
The EVs are still not there yet in terms of costs unless you get a chevvy bolt. If you have a paid off prius, it's best to stick with it.
I've seen a video where...under ideal weather conditions you should still get from 10-80% on a 150kw charger in around 22 minutes...it was just cold during this video. Get out Plug and Play EV...he puts out great content on his Ionic 5 and EVs in general.
These days in warmer temperatures, I am getting to 80% in about 22 minutes from 10%.
You won't get 10 to 80%, unless it's the summertime or warmer weather in 18 minutes
Hopefully Hyundai can let us use the battery preconditioning via a software update. That should help during winter times
You are not going to get the 120 kwh charging speeds at 46%. If you go below 20% you might get the full speed your car supports.
I know why your car is charging so slow, your cable is bent, the electrons are bumping up and can't move fast enough - you should straighten out the cable next time.
Can you charge two cars at the same time since it has two charging cables but one screen in each charging station
Unfortunately, only one car per charging stall.
@@PluggingRevolution thanks I see people plug in other cable while I am charging my car so not sure what to do
@@nicoleb2669 they are new. There’s two cables for redundancy in case one is broken. 1 car per stall
@@SmokeyBear363 thanks !!!
what a waste of time , gas station 5min in and out.
EVs are a JOKE!!! Most get about 250 miles on a full charge, lack of stations, and the friggin time it takes to charge. Gonna be another 20 years till they are even worth having one.
One nice thing about gasoline:
400 miles of range, in less than 5 minutes. And cold weather does not slow down the pumping of gas.
Gasoline is one difficult energy source to replace due to its usability.
@@PluggingRevolution There are more oil deposits being discovered all the time. There is definitely not a shortage of gasoline in the world, for decades (centuries?) to come.
To each his/her own
@@shundawilliams6549 While you are spending hours charging your EV, I will spend minutes filling my gas tank.
Compare Accord or Camry to Model 3: they are much cheaper, they have longer range, they have beautiful interior and dashboard, and much better build quality.
Accord and Camry also have lower insurance costs, and registration fees too.
@@DerekDavis213 naw thanks, EV's are so much nicer to drive, so much lower maintenance cost, and if you can charge where you live you leave each day with a full tank and never have to deal with grimy gas stations, or some of the characters that frequent those places, don't have noxious fumes nor nearly as many fluids to leak, etc, etc, etc. writing is on the wall, ICE is on the way out, and none too soon for our planet!