It's a shame what has happened to the 405 .Friends has become enemies and enemies are even more hated. Fame and money has changed you all. I miss the old real street racers ya'll used to be.
Money Money Money? What happened to the fun of racing for being on a list? You all keep this unteamly crap going and I’m done watching this crap. F the money. A race is a race ! Wow money ruined it again
Discovery has ruined you guys and what street/ drag racing is and was. The 405 was about street racing for love of cars, motors, and going fast. Now it seems that it’s just what discovery can get sold. The drama, fighting, and running around like kids on this so called ( americas list) is a joke. If I wanted to see (The other guys ) racing I would tone into their channels bring back the og 405 even the channel has broken your friendships up come on guys.
@@codylebleu951 ….. pro mods can be street cars. Every seen Tom Bailey and his Sick seconds Camaro racing at 5 different tracks and driving 1000 miles in a week and winning drag weeks? You comment makes no sense lol especially since none of these are pro mods 😂
@@charlesyaryan6619 THE ONE GUY WHO HAD SUCCESS IN STREET CARS . WHICH NONE OF THESE CARS ARE . I seen him at. Orlando Speed World Street Car Nats. ANCIENT HISTORY
I definitely agree that there is no real determination to prove who is the best anymore,and if they really want to keep pushing themselves it needs to change. Seems to be too many excuses to not race. I miss Shane and Bob,wish he could come back,also can't wait to see kamikaze and the new elco when he gets it fixed.
I've been a fan since day one of these guys racing on "pinks"...but, I agree they need more than just these legends of street racing, racing eachother again. We've been there, seen this!
The problem with "the list" even before the show is that they progressed to the point of sticking steel quarters and roof onto a pro mod.Now you can put a top fuel car on pavement, that's not street racing..to me street racing is racing a street legal car not just the fact that your racing on pavement.. it should just be called who's got the most money in their car outlaws, it's boring.
@Jim S I would say make a division 1500hp or less. Limit tire size and limit what type of prep solution you use. Must be a full steel body none of that stupid quaters and roof bs. Just real still very fast street racing.
@@nalley6815 cars that aren't 3000hp "street cars" you couldn't put any luggage in it. The only one that I've seen that has proven to be a street car is Jeff Lutzs Bel Air.
@@joelkerper8128 street legal is street legal. There’s nothing that says it has to be able to do this or that to be a street car. If it’s legal then it’s a legal street car
This is what happens when you get famous on TV. The first seasons are always the best, then the money comes and it’s a steady decline from there. It’s even happening the JJ
Damn, you are sooo right... You all are street racers not track ! That's what made you all is the streets.. Can't wait for you all to get back there and show who's BOSS Chief...
If they gonna race each other they should draw from bag and have a new number one each time...and whoever wins the most nights is number one, simple.but I think it would be more interesting if they did as they used to and raced other teams all season , Memphis can race on 405 show and vice versus
Wouldn’t work as it’s all based on luck. I could be number five but draw the slowest guys every night, win every race, and be crowned number one even tho I’m not.
Man, I hate it when people get upset about something then put mistakes off on someone else. Jeff was asked if he wanted to do another burn out, he chose no. Then gives the guy shit for "not letting him know he needed a second burn out". If your team asks for a second burnout, take the burn out. Making someone else feel like they fucked up when they didn't, and you're just mad because of something else.. not cool.
This show needs some serious restructuring...they claim to be that fastest street cars in the world....ok well the show should be them racing the world and then at the end of the season race each other to structure the list for next season and choose out of town racers
I liked the show better when their cars were just patched together just to make it to race night. And they used to do funny stuff like when chief Shawn and flip busted chuck doing test hits on the street with their renta cop disguises. Ah the good ol days. Too much money and ego in the show now but I admit I still watch it. It’s just not as entertaining as it was early on
The hoonicorn is fast but wouldn't have a chance against any of the cars in the 405. In no prep these guys are around 200mph in the 1/8. It is a bad ass car though
*Celebrating the rebirth in an Ancient Tomb.* The Grand Passage Tomb is well over five-thousand years old, it defines the winter solstice and celebrates a rebirth of the Sun. "Let the Sunshine In." Have a Wonderful Winter Solstice and a Happy Holiday Season. E pluribus Unum. May the Sunshine. Mother-Nature and Father-Time.
these guy have doing this a long ass time. i think it’s just them being friends and always doing this together prolly getting to a point as some things do among friends. maybe some rule changes or more racing other people as a team might be good idea. once they get they mojo back then maybe head back to the list and get the friendly competition back
say it too his face then. see this is the problem with ppl now a days. They talk all kinds of crap about ppl but will never talk it to their face. And who cares if he’s a baby he’s still more successful then u
What do they expect. Racing the same 10-12 people every week is not making anyone better. Einstein said, "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
Jason. In reality you are alone in a machine that was built for one reason to go fast,,, you have to have to race your self first ,getting better comes from a focus on your own program
If i didnt know better i’d say this was a memphis chat page from the comments , check ur records how many times has 405 kicked memphis Ass three times go find another channel 405 to the front
Love Murder Nova and Sean but since he split with Chief he hasn't made steady passes and won pretty much any races. Something is just not right with Nova.
geese race night didn’t use to be that much drama do away with the list among your selves if Yaa can’t get along wats the point ! 🤔👍cmon guys get it together get right 🤗👍
They were the fastest but it only takes so long for every one else to catch up. Stop beating up your cars racing each other and focus on racing others.
S.O please race anyone else but yourselves. What ever happened to that. Honestly I like the team races more because you actually get to see who can win against other ppl!!!!!!!!! But daddy Dave and and ryan are your two most consistent. Doc:excuses turned it up too high high Chance of losing. Chief: 50/50 shot. The rest suck
Desire to watch more than these "trailer queens" as someone else posted.. there isn't as much real racing unless you let others race with you... I wish it was more "all in" and not "don't break it" I honestly don't know what needs to change but it does need a change.
At Mega Cash there was no team support. The chief lost and gone he was not to be seen. If there is no leader then there is no team. Ryan seem more of a leader then Chief. Sad so Sad
They ruined it by allowing non steel, pro mods. They needed to make it you can't race a plastic Pro mod if you're racing against the ,405. The 405 was the only group that owned street racing because of this show, they should have made and owned the rules.
These comments are pretty funny this show will never be like when it first started because everyone wants to be number one on the OKC list. OKC started this thing on TV not JJ , you will never see Bog Chief driving Ryan's fireball or Doc driving Daddy Dave's car. Change happens every day so get use to it. I don't like chase is a race , to me that's cheating if you jump but that's JJ hustle. That's part of the 405 thing race and establish your on top ten and take on the world after in your race order.
Love the show but these aren’t street cars. And, none of the cast are outlaws. Need to have a contest to rename the show. My entry would be....The Ryan Martin Show
Lutz is a putz, man. What the hell - why did Chief ask "who's callin' this deal?" and no one speaks so Doc says I'll call and Lutz freaked out. What a putz.
How's lutz gonna get mad when guy said " we shoulda done 2 burn outs " lutz said that's your call I needed to know that .... Um they opened your door and said you should do another burnout and you said no . Dudes a crybaby
"He's still talking about me after I walked off" as he's literally talking about him while walking off 😂
Walked off with that race too 🤣🤣🤣💔💔💔💔
It's a shame what has happened to the 405 .Friends has become enemies and enemies are even more hated. Fame and money has changed you all. I miss the old real street racers ya'll used to be.
Lol it’s just tv drama. Watch their real channels.
@@clontztown5821 1000% agree
@@clontztown5821 so the drama is made up for the show , hmm scripted reality tv
Agreed! The Elco and Farmtruck is the style it should be
Money Money Money? What happened
to the fun of racing for being on a list? You all keep this unteamly crap going and I’m done watching this crap. F the money. A race is a race ! Wow money ruined it again
Discovery has ruined you guys and what street/ drag racing is and was. The 405 was about street racing for love of cars, motors, and going fast. Now it seems that it’s just what discovery can get sold. The drama, fighting, and running around like kids on this so called ( americas list) is a joke. If I wanted to see (The other guys ) racing I would tone into their channels bring back the og 405 even the channel has broken your friendships up come on guys.
Discovery gave them all way too much money and helped grow their heads so they don't fit in their helmets anymore.
I always found it funny they are so called street racers in cars that aren’t street cars all pro mods
Not to mention all the OGs gotta sit and listen to dough boy sell the agenda to them week after week 🤦🏻
@@codylebleu951 sounds like someone can't drive themselves
@@codylebleu951 ….. pro mods can be street cars. Every seen Tom Bailey and his Sick seconds Camaro racing at 5 different tracks and driving 1000 miles in a week and winning drag weeks? You comment makes no sense lol especially since none of these are pro mods 😂
When the show first started out it was balls to the wall and y'all had hella fun I just love to see that competitive fun again
That's what happens when you get fat bank accounts
Foreal it was the best with just the OGs
@@anthonybonnelle786 SILLY TALK CHILD
Yea I want that street outlaws back
That discovery pay check went to their heads
7:48 "He is still talking about me while I walk off"
The self awareness is astounding.
Doc has always been an A hole, always had bad attitude about like Reaper.
I would much rather watch REAL street cars battling it out than six figure trailer queens with no water in the block,50 pounds of boost,etc.
I knew this video was old but 50 pounds of boost proves it! These guys have t run 50 lbs in years, they are running 70-80 lbs now
Anything in the street is awesome, street car or rail car.
Yep, just a bunch of guys that can't make it on the real racing circuit . And cry babies to boot .
@@dennisfrier3191 Can't make it on a real circuit? Google Jeff lutz racing history.
@@charlesyaryan6619 THE ONE GUY WHO HAD SUCCESS IN STREET CARS . WHICH NONE OF THESE CARS ARE . I seen him at. Orlando Speed World Street Car Nats. ANCIENT HISTORY
I definitely agree that there is no real determination to prove who is the best anymore,and if they really want to keep pushing themselves it needs to change.
Seems to be too many excuses to not race.
I miss Shane and Bob,wish he could come back,also can't wait to see kamikaze and the new elco when he gets it fixed.
Yeah, I agree. Shane was great. And I do miss kamikaze embarrassing folks.
Shane and Bob are retired from racing unfortunately
Reapers coming back...
Kamikaze is building a corvette irrc
Kamikaze races and accepts whatever happens. He races to win not argue.
I've been a fan since day one of these guys racing on "pinks"...but, I agree they need more than just these legends of street racing, racing eachother again. We've been there, seen this!
Did you ever see the episode on mtv where they followed chief when he was racing a Honda Civic and he had to run cause he didn’t have a lisence ? Lol
@@jaycevessier7554 I saw that, crazy lol. I also watched Prichett lose his mustang. Make em run for pinks again lol
@@charkey3563 dude hahaha!!! I remember all that shit
Dam I feel old,what ever happen to the host of pinks
@@panchov3129 not sure, I’ll have to google him.
YOU GUYS ARE ( THE GODS OFF STREET RACERS )
DONT LET YOUR ATTITUDES AND KNOWLEDGE KILL THE PASSION 👍👍👍
MSO family street racer's are the best Street Racer's in the World 🌍🌍🌍
Man I love Jeff that old man is hilarious! 😂
Bro the argument at the coin flip was the best 😂😂
What exactly was doc talking about ? everyone before him/them the left side was very fast right side was slick and slow .
It is nice to see you guys racing again. 405
It really is
This is old
Loved your show, love ya all's stories and backgrounds. Keep up the fun, and thanks from the Colorado high desert...
The problem with "the list" even before the show is that they progressed to the point of sticking steel quarters and roof onto a pro mod.Now you can put a top fuel car on pavement, that's not street racing..to me street racing is racing a street legal car not just the fact that your racing on pavement.. it should just be called who's got the most money in their car outlaws, it's boring.
@Jim S I would say make a division 1500hp or less. Limit tire size and limit what type of prep solution you use. Must be a full steel body none of that stupid quaters and roof bs. Just real still very fast street racing.
@Jim S who's MSO? Memphis? If so, then I think they do. I don't watch too much MSO when I get a chance I do. But yea I think you're right.
“Street racing is racing a street legal car”. Well what the fuck do you think those are?
@@nalley6815 cars that aren't 3000hp "street cars" you couldn't put any luggage in it. The only one that I've seen that has proven to be a street car is Jeff Lutzs Bel Air.
@@joelkerper8128 street legal is street legal. There’s nothing that says it has to be able to do this or that to be a street car. If it’s legal then it’s a legal street car
I still don't understand why Lutz is even there. He has never lived in OKC
No one seems like ,this is fun anymore! When you favorite hobby turns into a nightmare JOB! 😖!
I love it how every time one of these guys lose its the road or the car lol NEVER driver error
This is what happens when you get famous on TV. The first seasons are always the best, then the money comes and it’s a steady decline from there. It’s even happening the JJ
JJ also does a lot of non televised events at little local tracks with local racers.
Damn, you are sooo right... You all are street racers not track ! That's what made you all is the streets.. Can't wait for you all to get back there and show who's BOSS Chief...
The show and the pay checks from tv made them
@@scallen3841 no it doesn't those guys have been racing the streets for years... and you don't think there's money involved, your crazy dude....
@@scallen3841 not only that they have sponsors that help them...
@@Linda-ph8tf yeah did they have sponsors before the show ,
@@Linda-ph8tf did they have sponsors before the discovery channel show , yes or no . I know there are fanboys out there
big queef was just going over all the games he plays on the list.
8-10 YEARS AGO...ORIGINAL 405 RACERS, AWESOME...
CHIEF
M NOVA
MONZA
DOC
REAPER
CAMINO....MISS THE OLD DAYS
There's a lot of ppl out there that would love a race with u guy's
Why hasn't Chief been racing that no time/mph, half track, no prep bullshit?
The oldest racers are always the most pissed off
Isn’t this like a old episode?
Yes
If they gonna race each other they should draw from bag and have a new number one each time...and whoever wins the most nights is number one, simple.but I think it would be more interesting if they did as they used to and raced other teams all season , Memphis can race on 405 show and vice versus
Wouldn’t work as it’s all based on luck. I could be number five but draw the slowest guys every night, win every race, and be crowned number one even tho I’m not.
Big Chief is not giving up. He is just scared to do no prep.
He doesn’t want to do NPK!!
Actually his car not fast enough
When lutz gets mad it's so funny to me
I know people like u.......and thats sad 😥
@@operation6604 and I know people like u thats sensitive to comments that wasnt really meant in a bad way...keep it moving sir
@@jayshafer16by
And another 1... SMH
Why does Lutz race for 405 when he's from Pennsylvania?
Man, I hate it when people get upset about something then put mistakes off on someone else.
Jeff was asked if he wanted to do another burn out, he chose no. Then gives the guy shit for "not letting him know he needed a second burn out". If your team asks for a second burnout, take the burn out.
Making someone else feel like they fucked up when they didn't, and you're just mad because of something else.. not cool.
Chief always complains about game playing hes the biggest game playing skemmer on the show
ITS HILLARIOUS WATCHING CHUCKIE LOSE RACES, BUT WHEN HES WINNING HES ALL UP IN RACERS FACES ACTING ALL WEIRD...LMAO
I MUCH rather see blind draw races like this
This show needs some serious restructuring...they claim to be that fastest street cars in the world....ok well the show should be them racing the world and then at the end of the season race each other to structure the list for next season and choose out of town racers
Just think. The first ever episode 1k hp was number one. Now it's 3 k hp to be number one
Can only watch same guys race same guys for 10 years for so long.
We should have done 2 burn outs. Umm Bro you Letrally are the one driving the car! 🤣
What episode was this?
I liked the show better when their cars were just patched together just to make it to race night. And they used to do funny stuff like when chief Shawn and flip busted chuck doing test hits on the street with their renta cop disguises. Ah the good ol days. Too much money and ego in the show now but I admit I still watch it. It’s just not as entertaining as it was early on
Doc had me laughing my ass off
The 405's are street race legends!!! Come on and all race the hoonicorn because it's proven too be fast!!! Straight up big dog's
The hoonicorn is fast but wouldn't have a chance against any of the cars in the 405. In no prep these guys are around 200mph in the 1/8. It is a bad ass car though
When the hell is it coming to the discovery plus app!!!! Seems like it's on season 7 or 8 now but the app only has season 6 like wtf!
*Celebrating the rebirth in an Ancient Tomb.*
The Grand Passage Tomb is well over five-thousand years old, it defines the winter solstice and celebrates a rebirth of the Sun.
"Let the Sunshine In."
Have a Wonderful Winter Solstice and a Happy Holiday Season.
E pluribus Unum.
May the Sunshine.
Mother-Nature and Father-Time.
Only watch when no prep kings is on and it's not the same since Big Chief left
That's why Big Chief and Murder Nova need to get back on the same team
They're actually still on the same team but just not Partners like they were
They need to get back together as partners because they ruled the 405 1 2 as partners
Big Chief can't compete with the No Prep. That's what this is all about.
I ❤️ Camaros💪🇺🇸🔥
I gave up on this show !!!! Memphis is where it’s at !!! #MSO !!!!!!!!!!!!
Hell yeah
these guy have doing this a long ass time. i think it’s just them being friends and always doing this together prolly getting to a point as some things do among friends. maybe some rule changes or more racing other people as a team might be good idea. once they get they mojo back then maybe head back to the list and get the friendly competition back
Americas list was good. They worked together again.
When did this episode air?
Last year
What season is this?
America's List ftw!
Doc is the man still
Doc is such a baby man.... give em a binky
say it too his face then. see this is the problem with ppl now a days. They talk all kinds of crap about ppl but will never talk it to their face. And who cares if he’s a baby he’s still more successful then u
I wish they would go back to the way it was when the show first started.
What episode is this
Lutz sure does run his mouth an awful lot for someone who looks like he can't fight his way out of a paper bag.
What do they expect. Racing the same 10-12 people every week is not making anyone better. Einstein said, "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
Jason. In reality you are alone in a machine that was built for one reason to go fast,,, you have to have to race your self first ,getting better comes from a focus on your own program
When the hell do these spisodes come on the only new episodes I get when I search for street outlaws are for NPK
why are they posting this like it just happened? this was last season!
If i didnt know better i’d say this was a memphis chat page from the comments , check ur records how many times has 405 kicked memphis Ass three times go find another channel 405 to the front
Who TF are you talking about half of us like Memphis too you ain't nothing but a fan bruh just like us so stfu
All they have to do is change some of their rules and the problems go away!
Wait Shaun thought he was gonna go 10-0 I wouldn’t put my last dollar on that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yesssssss we need more of this shit bring it back 405
In the video game Street Outlaws the list I learned how to street race murder Nova and Farmtruck and Asian
Love Murder Nova and Sean but since he split with Chief he hasn't made steady passes and won pretty much any races. Something is just not right with Nova.
You think he dont notice????
geese race night didn’t use to be that much drama do away with the list among your selves if Yaa can’t get along wats the point ! 🤔👍cmon guys get it together get right 🤗👍
Drama sells and the producers know that, that's why they've been filming tv shows for years
Yaa well they look a fkn joke 🤷♂️👎
They were the fastest but it only takes so long for every one else to catch up. Stop beating up your cars racing each other and focus on racing others.
S.O please race anyone else but yourselves. What ever happened to that. Honestly I like the team races more because you actually get to see who can win against other ppl!!!!!!!!! But daddy Dave and and ryan are your two most consistent. Doc:excuses turned it up too high high Chance of losing. Chief: 50/50 shot. The rest suck
Desire to watch more than these "trailer queens" as someone else posted.. there isn't as much real racing unless you let others race with you... I wish it was more "all in" and not "don't break it" I honestly don't know what needs to change but it does need a change.
That's what you need , new roads
Maaan I miss this show.
Loved the show initially but it sucks these days
At Mega Cash there was no team support. The chief lost and gone he was not to be seen. If there is no leader then there is no team. Ryan seem more of a leader then Chief. Sad so Sad
Yeah chief could do with lookin at JJ da boss as an example of how to be a team leader..??
The car I got in street outlaws the list video game is badass and I wrecked it
Starting to get old seeing the same guys/ cars race over and over again. Everything has its time.
lutz talked all that shit jus to get dragged 😂😂
They ruined it by allowing non steel, pro mods. They needed to make it you can't race a plastic Pro mod if you're racing against the ,405. The 405 was the only group that owned street racing because of this show, they should have made and owned the rules.
All their cars are steel roof and quarter cars with vins, tags and insurance dude. They haven't had promods for years dude
@@stylepoints.180 I'm in Australia dude, we're running about three years behind on the show.
Its really sad when people think this is good tv. Embarrassing
Perfect video
These comments are pretty funny this show will never be like when it first started because everyone wants to be number one on the OKC list. OKC started this thing on TV not JJ , you will never see Bog Chief driving Ryan's fireball or Doc driving Daddy Dave's car. Change happens every day so get use to it. I don't like chase is a race , to me that's cheating if you jump but that's JJ hustle. That's part of the 405 thing race and establish your on top ten and take on the world after in your race order.
This got me dead 🤣🤣
NOTHING better than seeing a 'street cheat" crash
i feel like with those cars its not street racing anymore.
The fastest is just a self proclamation!!! And a prepped road is not street racing. No lights no cameras no ambulances etc.
LOVES the 405 !!!
Doc is either really fast or really slow. No in between
Love the show but these aren’t street cars.
And, none of the cast are outlaws.
Need to have a contest to rename the show.
My entry would be....The Ryan Martin Show
Lutz is a putz, man. What the hell - why did Chief ask "who's callin' this deal?" and no one speaks so Doc says I'll call and Lutz freaked out. What a putz.
I’m surprised doc launched as hard as he did and that shitty road
That's why jj is so popular.he street races.but the ghetto talk makes it hard to watch.
Bring back goatee bo! 🇺🇸
How's lutz gonna get mad when guy said " we shoulda done 2 burn outs " lutz said that's your call I needed to know that .... Um they opened your door and said you should do another burnout and you said no . Dudes a crybaby
God damn I miss chief on this show
By 405 you mean Ryan Martin ?
Street racing went from 500hp cars to 4500hp cars that's not street racing
Shocking that Lutz still has teeth in his mouth.
What money goes to the number one guy??? I thought it was a crown not money