First of all, I want to start out with saying that I am a huge fan of the Shiren the Wanderer / Mystery Dungeon series. I am very interested in playing Shiren 2 (this game) and Shiren 5, but the language barrier makes it quite difficult. If I were capable, I would personally work on a translation patch for Shiren 2. That being said, I cannot say that ChunSoft made a mistake. They made the right move by making this Japanese-exclusive. You see, this game is not really an "RPG". It's actually a sub-genre of RPG called a roguelike. Roguelike games are somewhat niche in that the strong difficulty and permadeath are not popular in Western gaming, even at this time. Specifically, the Shiren series is heavily inspired by NetHack, a game that's almost exclusively English (there is just too much text to make a viable translation, although there have been several attempts, including JNetHack, a translation to Japanese). NetHack is (or at least, was) popular among those that play roguelikes, but it's simply not a popular genre of gaming. So not only is it an unpopular sub-genre of RPG, it is also very Japanese-themed, which is going to alienate a lot of the potential buyer market. Without a really good localization team, some things are just going to be lost in translation or simply not make any sense at all to the player. It would be very difficult to bring this game to the Western market not only because of the amount of translation needed, but the careful localization process that must accompany it. The first game, for the SNES, does have a very nice translation patch made by Aeon Genesis, and a port for the DS came out in Japan. It was actually localized here, no doubt due to the success of other Mystery Dungeon titles such as Pokemon Mystery Dungeon and Chocobo Dungeon. If you like NetHack-style games and want a graphical version you could play on a console, Shiren is definitely the way to go. I hope someday someone does make a translation patch or it gets ported and has a chance to be localized. Here's to hoping it gets ported to the 3DS and comes out in English!
Shiren 3 and 5+ were localized too, but Atlus did a terrible job with 3 hiding from the audience what Shiren truly is (hard and punishing, but also kind and rewarding). But Aksis who brought 5+ for Vita is on the right track. Critical reviews has been nicer to Shiren and gameplays are more popular too. Maybe this is the right time. With rogulites (FTL, Spelunky, Rogue Legacy) becoming famous and with Let's Plays teaching people the basics and the possibilities (like it was with Minecraft), maybe NOW Shiren stand a chance on the western market.
I couldn't agree more. I'm really excited about Shiren 5+'s localization. At the time Shiren 2 was released, it would have been a financial flop in the west, but I think the western market now would at least be open about the idea. Traditional roguelikes and their kin will always be niche, though.
Roguelikes are a mostly western genre, as Rogue itself for example, so I don't really see the point over strong difficulty\permadeath, even because there were some western rpgs that are quite complex on console as well, I think the main reason that we didn't get this in the rest was the n64 itself, and possibily by the fact that Torneko: The Last Hope was destroyed by the american press. So in the end: PSX got three english Mystery Dungeon games (Chocobo 1 and 2 and Torneko) so probably Shiren was not localized either because it was a n64 game or because the setting was not seen as appealing as the other games. Or maybe because it was an original chunsoft IP and they didn't manage to get a distribution deal, while torneko and chocobo had the dungeon warrior and final fantasy branding
The first Shiren for the SNES received a very good translation and Shiren DS2 has a item/monster/menu tranlation (no dialogues) and I hope someday Shiren 4, 2, GB and Asuka's (for Dreamcast) will be translated.
Being western I'm so unlucky to fell in love with this game series. Without a fan translation I will never be able to play shiren 2. =/ Love your videos Hard4Games. N64 Glenn Plant, subbed.
Hey Glenn, did you know that a translation patch came out for this on September 26th 2021? This sounds like a good opportunity to come back to this game! I'm about to import a copy a this instant thanks to your video. ;)
@@n64glennplant Seeing it's version 1.01, I believe they're mostly done with it now. Glad to also see that copies aren't expensive either, got one for 35$(CAD) shipped. Any chance you explore it again in a video? 😁
I think part of the reason that so many RPGs stayed in Japan after the N64 is that it's roughly around this time that gaming in the west started to go from semi niche hobby to the full fledged entertainment industry that it is today. Now in Japan gaming had always been a huge part of the culture but in the west it only really started to become REALLY main stream later on. Once this started to pick up steam you started to see a lot more western studios developing games and a general shift in the gaming tastes in the west over to FPSs, RTSs and the like. Before this point western developers had mostly tried to mimic their Japanese counterparts who were always FAR and away more successful. Personally I find this development to be a sad one as I never gravitated towards the type of games that seemed to dominate the western sphere of gaming to this days, all the CoD clones and the like. Love the western trend in gaming or hate it you have to admit that games like CoD, GTA and the like have been hugely financially successful. As tastes change Japanese companies just aren't as willing to invest the resources into localizing a game for the western market where they just aren't sure as they used to be back in the 90s that they have a large enough audience to recoup the costs. Again I find this a sad state of affairs :(
@@n64glennplant at krikzz dot com forums there's a topic titled "Shiren the Wanderer 2 N64 Translation", and the first message contains a link to the discord channel hosting the beta patch, which is very close to completion. I had played the translated game for ~30 hours with no issues before abandoning it. It's a pretty standard roguelike with cute audio and visuals.
I've not played this, but the DS version is superb. Chunsoft really know what they're doing with console roguelikes. I think this is tied with Dezaemon 3D (DD version) for N64 game that still (as of late 2017) has not yet been translated.
Great work Glenn! There is little out there on this game, never played it, but i love the transparent in-game map... also the taiko drums when you level up! I would support a patch for this. I am a novice translator- but emulation and ROM hacking/manipulation aren't my speciality :( we need a team! :)
yeah to be honest I'm surprised that the same team that did the snes game didn't move onto this but i think it would be a huge job, the text doesn't look sprite based so shouldn't be impossible
next game in the series, the snes game was the same as the n64 however the n64 game was more like a high res version with some upgraded storyline points etc
Every time I hear the words "translation patch", I feel compelled to Google Segagaga to check process :P This game can wait until that gets done :) Though, awesome episode as always! It's been hard keeping up with your output, but always really well presented.
I was so surprised to find out Mystery Dungeon was a series long before Pokemon did anything with it. After spending many hours on the first 2 series of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games, I'd love to try the main series games.
I'm sure the reason the N64 didn't have more RPG's was the DD's failure, considering there was suppose to be a Pokemon RPG and of course EarthBound 64/ Mother 3. There is also the fact that Square left and worked with Sony.
Did Chunsoft have anything to do with the Dragon Crystal series for Sega? That had similar looking randomly generated dungeons too. Also forests. Also why are all the suggested videos at the end of this video about Kevin Turvey for me? :S
***** don't worry...just blocked him. not sure if he was referring to you or me but he can do one anyway, if you're going to do an insult that was one of the most ridiculously timid ones I've ever seen.
I would love to work on an English patch for this game. I'm not fluent in Japanese yet but I think with the help of a dictionary I could make a half decent translation of this. Unfortunately, I have no knowledge of coding for the N64 (or any programming) If you know anyone (Who knows how to program) who would like to work on this patch together please let me know.
Do you know of any forums where I might meet some good N64 programmers to work on this with? I'm sure you're not the only one wanting this game in English. I've never played it, but I would love to.
Jared Nelson There are basically just two places where you can meet programmers and/or translators willing to translate N64 games: #n64dev - N64 development IRC channel on EFnet - and romhacking.net message board.
I'm personally not a very huge RPG fan, but I will admit this does look good, and if it was in English I would consider giving it a look, as I do like the historical Japanese settings. Also I think the reason we did not get very many RPG titles on the N64 here where a few reasons: 1. lower sales of N64 units compared to PS1 2. cost of development was higher on N64 3. storage limits of N64 carts(reason Square put FF7 on PS1) 4. Nintendo wanted to focus on the 4 Player aspects of the N64 as a party system. 5. At least here in America it was mostly younger kids who owned the N64, and Teens/adults went for the PS1 and/or Sega Saturn. So yeah it's understandable looking back why we did not get as many RPG's on the system.
all valid points really, personally for me i think it was because of the storage size, to do a 3d rpg with the same depth as snes games would be a hard task....the lack of rpgs in 3d on the console must show why. holy magic century was ok but hardly any depth to it
The reason the US didn't get any N64 RPGs (with a few exceptions) is because the Playstation was cheaper to produce for, had faster load times, and games could be spread across multiple discs (meaning they weren't held back by limitations of a cartridge that existed at the time). All the major RPG companies were developing for the Playstation and other disc based systems (especially the Saturn), and they didn't bother with the N64. That's why the RPGs that were on the N64 just aren't as notable as other RPGs of the time. Also, developers knew that after Final Fantasy VII on the PS1, anyone who wanted RPGs owned a Playstation over an N64, and they continued to develop exclusively for Playstation. RPG gamers were not going to purchase an N64 for just one or two games, and developers and publishers knew this.
it's a DS rouge like. It was simple and fun. but the game relied ALOT on boobie humor and got repetitive toward the end.I like it and still play it from time to time. I don't know your personal preferences, so i'd recommend try a ROM, or borrowing it first. It was released in PAL territories if i remember. From what i saw. Shiren 2 had very similar maps and turn system. If you want to know anything specific let me know.
Main reasons why we didn't get this? Playstation. The fated blueprint Nintendo console really flooded the market with RPGs... even a bad one was more accessible than an obscure one on N64. This game would never see a US release, simply because it's too Japanese culturally rich for Western audiences. But then I thought of Goemon and how this game has those cultural similarities (rice hats, kappas, errr... swords), and if only this series had a more popular, established US based, just maybe... Either way, thanks for putting this one in the spotlight... this is a real, late release oddity.
I really enjoyed the wii shiren the wanderer and this seems to be pretty good as far as dungeon crawly rpgs go. Im sure this will get a translation eventually although to be honest there are a lot of other jrpgs i would love to see translated first. The reason why we got no rpgs on the n64 is simply that Nintendo of america/europe secretly hates rpgs. At least thats what i like to belive. :-D
I blame the americans for overhyping FPS games on the N64 and making localizing companies to not bother translating the Lost Jrpgs on the system :/ another cool looking rpg we've never gotten was Zool!
I tend to think a combination of Nintendo 64 going cartridge based & Playstation pretty much becoming known for its RPGs is why the N64 didn't get the amount of RPGs like its predecessor did. Final Fantasy VII pretty much help made the Playstation a big name and the place for RPGs (and that game's ambition was only able to be contained on CDs, as it was said). Hence, the N64 selection for RPGs was sparse. I only think of 3 RPGs for the systems without needing to do research. One well received (Paper Mario), one cult status (Ogre Battle 64), and one known more for its infamous status because people played it since they wanted to play an RPG on the N64 but was left disappointed (Quest 64, which you probably knew it as Holy Magic Century since it was called that in Europe). I know on my part when I got a Playstation in 1999, I went and played those RPGs on the system because the N64 didn't cover that genre all that much while the Playstation cornered that market (and coming from someone who had an N64 first before getting a Playstation).
yeah it kinda allowed indie developers to afford to make console games before being an indie developer was a thing really. so many games from small studios on playstation which couldn't happen on n64
As a huge fan of the Siren the Wanderer Series, I would like to say you've summed up the story quite well. I was turned off by the town building mechanic in this game so I haven't played through the entire game, however from watching playthroughs of this game there's sadly not much content beside unlocking more dungeons. The story does build up a bit the more you explore dungeons and help rebuild the town, but for the most part the storyline is very cut and dry. I will go out of my way and say there is a section of the game where you see these weird aliens at a beach which speak Engrish. Here's a link if you're interested... It shouldn't really contain spoilers. ruclips.net/video/8ZNBv3QZILU/видео.html
the wii should of had a lot more of these types of games transleted and should of had more overall cause the vc was a joke and could have been wiis strongest point........
+John Violet It's by the same people, so they're just using their established blueprint. Their first Mystery Dungeon game was back in 93, and even that was based on the 1980 game Rogue.
Or you can stop hoping and think of the actual alternative of learning japanese such as I did? You only deprive yourself for not taking initiative or else It would be more important to you. Just saying.
Learning Japanese isn’t really useful or necessary in my day to day life so time spent learning it to any basic conversational level would be pretty much pointless.
![Forgotten Games: Mystery Dungeon Shiren the Wanderer [SFC] - SNESdrunk](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/6SToz2W6EfI/mqdefault.jpg)
So glad this one is fan translated now!!
First of all, I want to start out with saying that I am a huge fan of the Shiren the Wanderer / Mystery Dungeon series. I am very interested in playing Shiren 2 (this game) and Shiren 5, but the language barrier makes it quite difficult. If I were capable, I would personally work on a translation patch for Shiren 2.
That being said, I cannot say that ChunSoft made a mistake. They made the right move by making this Japanese-exclusive. You see, this game is not really an "RPG". It's actually a sub-genre of RPG called a roguelike. Roguelike games are somewhat niche in that the strong difficulty and permadeath are not popular in Western gaming, even at this time. Specifically, the Shiren series is heavily inspired by NetHack, a game that's almost exclusively English (there is just too much text to make a viable translation, although there have been several attempts, including JNetHack, a translation to Japanese). NetHack is (or at least, was) popular among those that play roguelikes, but it's simply not a popular genre of gaming.
So not only is it an unpopular sub-genre of RPG, it is also very Japanese-themed, which is going to alienate a lot of the potential buyer market. Without a really good localization team, some things are just going to be lost in translation or simply not make any sense at all to the player. It would be very difficult to bring this game to the Western market not only because of the amount of translation needed, but the careful localization process that must accompany it.
The first game, for the SNES, does have a very nice translation patch made by Aeon Genesis, and a port for the DS came out in Japan. It was actually localized here, no doubt due to the success of other Mystery Dungeon titles such as Pokemon Mystery Dungeon and Chocobo Dungeon. If you like NetHack-style games and want a graphical version you could play on a console, Shiren is definitely the way to go.
I hope someday someone does make a translation patch or it gets ported and has a chance to be localized. Here's to hoping it gets ported to the 3DS and comes out in English!
Shiren 3 and 5+ were localized too, but Atlus did a terrible job with 3 hiding from the audience what Shiren truly is (hard and punishing, but also kind and rewarding). But Aksis who brought 5+ for Vita is on the right track. Critical reviews has been nicer to Shiren and gameplays are more popular too. Maybe this is the right time. With rogulites (FTL, Spelunky, Rogue Legacy) becoming famous and with Let's Plays teaching people the basics and the possibilities (like it was with Minecraft), maybe NOW Shiren stand a chance on the western market.
I couldn't agree more. I'm really excited about Shiren 5+'s localization. At the time Shiren 2 was released, it would have been a financial flop in the west, but I think the western market now would at least be open about the idea. Traditional roguelikes and their kin will always be niche, though.
Roguelikes are a mostly western genre, as Rogue itself for example, so I don't really see the point over strong difficulty\permadeath, even because there were some western rpgs that are quite complex on console as well, I think the main reason that we didn't get this in the rest was the n64 itself, and possibily by the fact that Torneko: The Last Hope was destroyed by the american press.
So in the end: PSX got three english Mystery Dungeon games (Chocobo 1 and 2 and Torneko) so probably Shiren was not localized either because it was a n64 game or because the setting was not seen as appealing as the other games. Or maybe because it was an original chunsoft IP and they didn't manage to get a distribution deal, while torneko and chocobo had the dungeon warrior and final fantasy branding
agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=shiren I dont know if is complete the translation
In playing Shiren Series.
Shiren 1 GB
Shiren GB2
Shiren SNES
Shiren 64
The first Shiren for the SNES received a very good translation and Shiren DS2 has a item/monster/menu tranlation (no dialogues) and I hope someday Shiren 4, 2, GB and Asuka's (for Dreamcast) will be translated.
I might have to check this one out! Thanks for the review!
let me know how you get on! its rad when you get into it but hard as nails without knowing japanese
Being western I'm so unlucky to fell in love with this game series. Without a fan translation I will never be able to play shiren 2. =/
Love your videos Hard4Games.
N64 Glenn Plant, subbed.
There is a translation patch for emulators: krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=8495.0
Hey Glenn, did you know that a translation patch came out for this on September 26th 2021? This sounds like a good opportunity to come back to this game! I'm about to import a copy a this instant thanks to your video. ;)
I did yes, there’s actually been English patch for a while but it was a work in progress but I believe it’s not a finished project translation!
@@n64glennplant Seeing it's version 1.01, I believe they're mostly done with it now. Glad to also see that copies aren't expensive either, got one for 35$(CAD) shipped. Any chance you explore it again in a video? 😁
I think part of the reason that so many RPGs stayed in Japan after the N64 is that it's roughly around this time that gaming in the west started to go from semi niche hobby to the full fledged entertainment industry that it is today. Now in Japan gaming had always been a huge part of the culture but in the west it only really started to become REALLY main stream later on. Once this started to pick up steam you started to see a lot more western studios developing games and a general shift in the gaming tastes in the west over to FPSs, RTSs and the like. Before this point western developers had mostly tried to mimic their Japanese counterparts who were always FAR and away more successful. Personally I find this development to be a sad one as I never gravitated towards the type of games that seemed to dominate the western sphere of gaming to this days, all the CoD clones and the like. Love the western trend in gaming or hate it you have to admit that games like CoD, GTA and the like have been hugely financially successful. As tastes change Japanese companies just aren't as willing to invest the resources into localizing a game for the western market where they just aren't sure as they used to be back in the 90s that they have a large enough audience to recoup the costs. Again I find this a sad state of affairs :(
Well someone finally made a translation for this game.
Where!?!! I’d love to see it
@@n64glennplant at krikzz dot com forums there's a topic titled "Shiren the Wanderer 2 N64 Translation", and the first message contains a link to the discord channel hosting the beta patch, which is very close to completion. I had played the translated game for ~30 hours with no issues before abandoning it. It's a pretty standard roguelike with cute audio and visuals.
As always very well done, keep doing what your doing. I really enjoy all the videos you make. Thanks
thank you! ill keep more on the way as long as people keep enjoying !
azure dreams n64 version frankly that's what shiren the wanderer is
Damn this looks really fun shame we never got this this looks like a game u could spend hours on and enjoy every second
yah its very fun trying out all the weapon load outs too....the skull shield with the red eyes is a cool one
it looks badass hope we get a translation one day
I've not played this, but the DS version is superb. Chunsoft really know what they're doing with console roguelikes. I think this is tied with Dezaemon 3D (DD version) for N64 game that still (as of late 2017) has not yet been translated.
Wow, what a good looking game. I bet translating this game would be a mammoth task.
i think that too but the snes game got one so its not impossible :)
Great work Glenn! There is little out there on this game, never played it, but i love the transparent in-game map... also the taiko drums when you level up! I would support a patch for this. I am a novice translator- but emulation and ROM hacking/manipulation aren't my speciality :( we need a team! :)
yeah to be honest I'm surprised that the same team that did the snes game didn't move onto this but i think it would be a huge job, the text doesn't look sprite based so shouldn't be impossible
I didn't know you were sponsored by Retroware. I really liked the demo for "Iron Meat" and can't wait for the full game to drop.
I've enjoyed other Shiren/Mystery Dungeon games so I wouldn't mind giving this a play.
Looks good
i remember chocobo dungeon for ps1 mostry for the sprite characters over a 3d world , so here it is the same but it looks right...
yeah if you like the other mystery dungeon games then this is just the same with a different story than some of the spin offs
mmhh...so it has some connection with the shiren wanderer for the wii? or it just the next game in the saga?
next game in the series, the snes game was the same as the n64 however the n64 game was more like a high res version with some upgraded storyline points etc
nope, the n64 game is a prequel
Translation patch done!
Yup!
Every time I hear the words "translation patch", I feel compelled to Google Segagaga to check process :P This game can wait until that gets done :) Though, awesome episode as always! It's been hard keeping up with your output, but always really well presented.
I was so surprised to find out Mystery Dungeon was a series long before Pokemon did anything with it. After spending many hours on the first 2 series of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games, I'd love to try the main series games.
you should, the snes one actually has an english translation...just a shame there isn't one for this n64 version....yet!
Koppa is a weasel, not a squirrel.
Good to know 👍
I'm sure the reason the N64 didn't have more RPG's was the DD's failure, considering there was suppose to be a Pokemon RPG and of course EarthBound 64/ Mother 3. There is also the fact that Square left and worked with Sony.
all very good reasons!
great review Glenn, yet again we missed out! has this had a fan translation yet do you know?
no translation, although the snes game did which is easy to find, if you like that then you'd like this. that was on super nintendo btw
I would love to have this game in English. I played a lot of Torneko's Last Hope on the PS1 and it's the same type of game
Did Chunsoft have anything to do with the Dragon Crystal series for Sega? That had similar looking randomly generated dungeons too. Also forests.
Also why are all the suggested videos at the end of this video about Kevin Turvey for me? :S
Christopher Wolfe
They don't want me there :(
***** don't worry...just blocked him. not sure if he was referring to you or me but he can do one anyway, if you're going to do an insult that was one of the most ridiculously timid ones I've ever seen.
*****
Lol, I didn't think he he may have been responding to you too :D
I love the art style of ogre battle so this is a must for me.
I would love to work on an English patch for this game. I'm not fluent in Japanese yet but I think with the help of a dictionary I could make a half decent translation of this. Unfortunately, I have no knowledge of coding for the N64 (or any programming) If you know anyone (Who knows how to program) who would like to work on this patch together please let me know.
Jared Nelson i have no knowledge either but this is one of the games id love to see. i have no idea why nobody has started it before
Do you know of any forums where I might meet some good N64 programmers to work on this with? I'm sure you're not the only one wanting this game in English. I've never played it, but I would love to.
Jared Nelson There are basically just two places where you can meet programmers and/or translators willing to translate N64 games: #n64dev - N64 development IRC channel on EFnet - and romhacking.net message board.
Wow, Thank you I will check those places out :)
I'm personally not a very huge RPG fan, but I will admit this does look good, and if it was in English I would consider giving it a look, as I do like the historical Japanese settings. Also I think the reason we did not get very many RPG titles on the N64 here where a few reasons:
1. lower sales of N64 units compared to PS1
2. cost of development was higher on N64
3. storage limits of N64 carts(reason Square put FF7 on PS1)
4. Nintendo wanted to focus on the 4 Player aspects of the N64 as a party system.
5. At least here in America it was mostly younger kids who owned the N64, and Teens/adults went for the PS1 and/or Sega Saturn.
So yeah it's understandable looking back why we did not get as many RPG's on the system.
all valid points really, personally for me i think it was because of the storage size, to do a 3d rpg with the same depth as snes games would be a hard task....the lack of rpgs in 3d on the console must show why. holy magic century was ok but hardly any depth to it
The reason the US didn't get any N64 RPGs (with a few exceptions) is because the Playstation was cheaper to produce for, had faster load times, and games could be spread across multiple discs (meaning they weren't held back by limitations of a cartridge that existed at the time). All the major RPG companies were developing for the Playstation and other disc based systems (especially the Saturn), and they didn't bother with the N64. That's why the RPGs that were on the N64 just aren't as notable as other RPGs of the time.
Also, developers knew that after Final Fantasy VII on the PS1, anyone who wanted RPGs owned a Playstation over an N64, and they continued to develop exclusively for Playstation. RPG gamers were not going to purchase an N64 for just one or two games, and developers and publishers knew this.
very valid points...agree with them all really
this looks interesting. It reminds me a lot of the Izuna: Legend of the unemployed ninja games. If this was in English I'd so buy it.
I'm not familiar with that game should i check it out?
it's a DS rouge like. It was simple and fun. but the game relied ALOT on boobie humor and got repetitive toward the end.I like it and still play it from time to time. I don't know your personal preferences, so i'd recommend try a ROM, or borrowing it first. It was released in PAL territories if i remember.
From what i saw. Shiren 2 had very similar maps and turn system. If you want to know anything specific let me know.
I've played Pokémon Mystery Dungeon, and that was fun. No doubt this will be as good if not better than that.
similar style of game except no pokemon here....although there actually kind of is as you can catch assistants to help you who are animal based
Taka Michinoku FTW! game looks great for a system lacking on RPGs outside of Europe
yeah defo a genre the console needed more of!
Can't you get this game on the DS? Or is that a different game?
Seok-Ju Kim the ds game had different graphics
Dawm, I love the Shiren Series, wish someone whould translate this into english!!! =)
This games looks to be a lot of fun and interesting as well too bad the n64 didnt have any RPG's great video gleen
thanks wesker. id like to review some of the rpgs we did get but need time to do them as they take ages to record
***** take your time my friend cant wait for your next video:-)
I wonder if all the top japanese games could be translated.
This one had been ⬆️
Main reasons why we didn't get this? Playstation. The fated blueprint Nintendo console really flooded the market with RPGs... even a bad one was more accessible than an obscure one on N64. This game would never see a US release, simply because it's too Japanese culturally rich for Western audiences. But then I thought of Goemon and how this game has those cultural similarities (rice hats, kappas, errr... swords), and if only this series had a more popular, established US based, just maybe... Either way, thanks for putting this one in the spotlight... this is a real, late release oddity.
N. DiMaio certainly is, i just wish that one day it gets a translation
I really enjoyed the wii shiren the wanderer and this seems to be pretty good as far as dungeon crawly rpgs go. Im sure this will get a translation eventually although to be honest there are a lot of other jrpgs i would love to see translated first. The reason why we got no rpgs on the n64 is simply that Nintendo of america/europe secretly hates rpgs. At least thats what i like to belive. :-D
I blame the americans for overhyping FPS games on the N64 and making localizing companies to not bother translating the Lost Jrpgs on the system :/ another cool looking rpg we've never gotten was Zool!
yeah i almost won zool the other day but got sniped on it!
***** Sorry to hear that :(
nice video. this needs a translation
ya i think it would be good translated
I tend to think a combination of Nintendo 64 going cartridge based & Playstation pretty much becoming known for its RPGs is why the N64 didn't get the amount of RPGs like its predecessor did. Final Fantasy VII pretty much help made the Playstation a big name and the place for RPGs (and that game's ambition was only able to be contained on CDs, as it was said).
Hence, the N64 selection for RPGs was sparse. I only think of 3 RPGs for the systems without needing to do research. One well received (Paper Mario), one cult status (Ogre Battle 64), and one known more for its infamous status because people played it since they wanted to play an RPG on the N64 but was left disappointed (Quest 64, which you probably knew it as Holy Magic Century since it was called that in Europe).
I know on my part when I got a Playstation in 1999, I went and played those RPGs on the system because the N64 didn't cover that genre all that much while the Playstation cornered that market (and coming from someone who had an N64 first before getting a Playstation).
yeah it kinda allowed indie developers to afford to make console games before being an indie developer was a thing really. so many games from small studios on playstation which couldn't happen on n64
=D i really enjoy the pokemon Mystery Dungeons which looks the same and works the same but it looks stunning for n64 this title
yeah for an n64 title the graphics etc are really awesome, goes with it originally being an n64dd title i think
good gfx!
As a huge fan of the Siren the Wanderer Series, I would like to say you've summed up the story quite well. I was turned off by the town building mechanic in this game so I haven't played through the entire game, however from watching playthroughs of this game there's sadly not much content beside unlocking more dungeons. The story does build up a bit the more you explore dungeons and help rebuild the town, but for the most part the storyline is very cut and dry.
I will go out of my way and say there is a section of the game where you see these weird aliens at a beach which speak Engrish. Here's a link if you're interested... It shouldn't really contain spoilers.
ruclips.net/video/8ZNBv3QZILU/видео.html
It's funny I pictured you with long blond hair, it must be because your voice reminds me of Julian Sands, the guy from the movie Warlock.
Haha well I did have long blonde hair when I was a kid, like ric flair white...then puberty hit and bam! Brunette
the wii should of had a lot more of these types of games transleted and should of had more overall cause the vc was a joke and could have been wiis strongest point........
So Pokemon mystery dungeon wasn't a random genius after all, they just copied this
+John Violet It's by the same people, so they're just using their established blueprint. Their first Mystery Dungeon game was back in 93, and even that was based on the 1980 game Rogue.
Released in the wrong console (Nintendo 64 sold worse than Sega Saturn in Japan) and never re-released or remade.
Or you can stop hoping and think of the actual alternative of learning japanese such as I did? You only deprive yourself for not taking initiative or else It would be more important to you. Just saying.
Learning Japanese isn’t really useful or necessary in my day to day life so time spent learning it to any basic conversational level would be pretty much pointless.
There's a translation now