I agree with ya I am part of the same wagon as you are I just hate Google since ads cost money to run in wich ad-blockers help keep ad bills low as well
@@aaronwolfpaws4854 Yeah, i'm not a consumer. I live off grid in the mountains, have been for 20 years now, i don't buy anything that's not like vehicle parts, bags of concrete or a bucket of screws so it's like serving ads to a monkey. Regardless of the ad, if i need brake pads or six 2x4s and some 16d nails i go down to the local mom and pop hardware store and get it i just go get some. I don't need an ad to tell me i need 50 feet of 3/4" ranch pipe to connect my rain barrels. Not a chance i'm traveling 100+ miles over mountains and through deserts to go spend money i don't have to buy some nonsense i saw on RUclips FFS. There's no businesses around to go to, no fast food, doordash or whatever, none of that so 90% of ads i would see are useless. And i don't eat any of that anyways, that's not even 'food' IMO. (I'm a five star chef, corpo pigslop is a joke.) I think i can live without relying on Mr Beast to feed me via delivery drones. Y'all got a wild dystopia down there in the world, it's like Vince McMahon runs society these days. What's cool is i recently looked at my stats and Sponsorblock has nearly saved me two days of my life so far of not watching ads for ballsack trimmers, soylent green and land in Scotland or whatever scam they're selling as a 'service' these days. Service deez nuts lol. But yeah, definitely use Sponsorblock, life is too short to waste it on this scam slop being hawked 24/7 like it's Idiocracy.
@@benzobernd9310does it? The sponsors have little way to tell if you're watching the sponsor, aside from if you buy their incredibly overpriced shitty products. I'd imagine statistically no one does that anyways, so it would be hard to detect sponsor block users
@voidlandguy As a poor android user, i say the same thing as it is exactly like WW3 (Both have dangerous consequences, WW3 for the world, the switch to Meta for my wallet.)
facebook was a non-uninstallable "system app" on every one of my android phones (HTC, Samsung, LG) before i bought a Xiaomi. If they get to own android though, i'll switch to a different platform instantly! Maybe i'll have to actually start buying apple stuff. Or switch back to good old Nokia flip phones now that those are a thing again :)
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I think smartphone vendors get revenue from preinstalling Facebook. Many of them do so.
Do you know what the best part is? 0:04 … 4 seconds in and the first thing I see under the vid is a ad from google, trying to convince you that they make the best ads for your company😂
Even a slap on the wrist is better than nothing. Because that means the gouvernement is watching the company's action, and that even if this time they didn't get anything, if they go further than they will know about it. And it might even be better than their solution, because if meta is buying android, then it's like google with internet explorer, you are just giving the monopole to someone else, who might even be worse than the previous one. The real solution that i would see is making illegal to give money for having google as the default choice. Imagine a company is paying customers to give them printer, how can you try and beat that? They made tiktok live illegal in europe for giving small amount of money to customers (though not bing rewards when they are doing something pretty similar), i don't see why giving millions to company's for using your product should be legal.
android is not really open source anymore anyway and Google has been steering it that way further and further so whatever. I bet less than 0.1% of the population uses a phone with a custom OS such as GrapheneOS that doesn't try to steal your data constantly.
@@MordecroxIf a company with 90% dominance in any market is not a monopoly, then the anti monopoly law is useless. Not even the best lawyers can go this blatantly against the law.
@@Mordecrox No lawyer is good enough to stop a determined lawmaker. What you mean to say is that Google has infinite money to buy every Congressman in every State to "change their mind" about the whole thing. That's very likely to happen.
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx This is not practically possible, since your information is gathered, correlated and aggregated from MANY, different sources. Even things like your screen size are used to track you. Faking your identity in real life is easier than doing it online. The best we can do is to minimize the information we put out there to make it harder to be related to us.
Especially light bulbs and fridges and whatever. The problem is. The instant you allow cars to have custom firmware. Imagine morons spreading Temu firmware via TikTok posts. Gonna have a stranger coming into your living room at 130mph.
@KevinJDildonik just banned the production of e cars. A normal car does everything a car should and needs to do. Making random things have software (like a TV, fridge, and other house appliances) is just a massive Spyware vector. If u need GPS just buy a phone holder for a phone and use that for GPS (preferably one running an os that doesn't spy on you). Not to mention if someone is dumb enough to download random firmware from a random link in a random tik tok post they deserve to be removed from the gene pool as they are a net loss. This is also ignoring the reality that most people just use water is on the device and the moment they hear a tech term they never heard they think it some forbiden black magic.
@@KevinJDildonik fun this is, that's possible today and making it illegal for you to have a custom dash display in your computer car does nothing to keep you safe.
It honestly scares me how dependent we have become on RUclips's existence. I don't think any single thing on the internet would be as damaging to society as a whole if it stopped existing overnight.
@dirremoire you do know that youtube has more value than pure entertainment, right? the amount of culture, recent history, art and freely accessible educational material that would be lost if youtube shut down is ginormous
because everything poltically will eventually affect civillian life. The bigger u are as a company the more the gov will be involved with ur company because now ur like a mini state of ur own that has a union of influence. Hence car manufactures and other big producers...
@@cara-seyun monopolies are destiny. It’s the result of people trying to win lol. It’s a lot harder to avoid them than you might think. When you really think about it…. you’ll realize you knew it all along.
Android is the one thing where I would say that Google does it right. They have their bootloaders unlockable, the os is open source and security and privacy are integrated with the permission system.
While the bootloaders are unlockable, Google is making ROMs and rooting useless step by step, there used to be thousands of fingerprints for spoofing devices to pass the Play Integrity APIs but Google is quickly banning them and now there are only a handful of them left, if they don't stop, the only way to pass Play Integrity is going to be by having the OEM keybox which is hard to get, unless it's leaked
@@axethepenguin because they have to. They won't survive if they did it the apple way. Companies wouldn't use android as an operating system if it's behind a paywall.
Well see, then they've presented the appearance of doing something. That generates just as much political noise as, but costs _way_ less than, actually doing something.
@@jorge69696 what do you mean by competition? nothing changes, just different owners. meta is also big company and is no different from google if not worse
The US shutting down Google's scheme to pay to be the standard search engine monopoly will likely kill Mozilla who's finances almost entirely relies in that very scheme, which make it seem likely to result in Chrome soon being the only browser engine available.
I'd love the idea of an independent RUclips, but it feels like given how big it has gotten since the pre-google days, theres no possible way it could sustain itself anymore without some other big company propping it up And thats the most scary thing, as bad as Google, is, all of the other alternatives (Microsoft, Facebook, even Amazon) are all somehow worse.... It would be nice if they could all be broken up at the same time, but theres no way that will ever happen. Such is life in our Cyberpunk Dystopia.
RUclips is starting to collapse under its own weight. Too many ads, too many channels with the same content and now it's being it with a deluge of crappy AI generated content. My Youtime viewing time is actually going down.
I mean sure, but the fact remains that no other company is in a position to utilise that data as well as google - which means they'd need to make those services shittier to turn a profit on them.
I hope that finally something is done against Googles monopoly, but if it results in Meta getting full control over android Arch or Gentoo is getting my main OS even for my phone.
Sadly that's how it is. You punish someone making a monopole, and someone else get powered from the situation. If Microsoft didn't get sued for internet explorer, then maybe chrome wouldn't be that prominent. They could have gone out, but wouldn't be as powerful as today.
@@Mordecrox not as many as I'd want. most people wake up to their OS looking funny with the windows button in the wrong place, shrug, and learn to cope with the new annoyances like farm animals
It got weird when my public middle school got chromebooks and made us all google accounts. The computers were helpful but it felt so odd to be roped into these massive structures, same thing with microsoft accounts and some sectors of education. We need a big stick to break up these companies.
You need to develop a alternative then. Azure and the MS365 ecosystem is extremely vast. As a dev you can do a shit ton of stuff (if you get the access). Personally I believe Microsoft has a way more extreme chokehold on B2B, but Googles chokehold on the Internet is unbreakable. Only china really can escape googles chokehold. Literally just throw enough law at them till they are effectively illegal. The EU would need to restrict american tech-companies and then subsidize european businesses for years till they fully replace american tech products. MS, Google, Apple, etc… can not be stopped “non-violently” ever. Its a delusion.
Imagine if the government used some of that money buying 4 thousand dollar screws (actual thing not an exaggeration) and made their own public education resources for computers...
You don't want that if Google gets broken up the customer are the one who's going to suffer. No one wants Meta to buy Android sometimes there are no good endings only bad and worse.
Then again, what's been stopping Meta from just forking it and replacing GMS with their own backend? Out of every company, they'd probably be the most capable, yet they haven't done anything.
@@sn0w.flowww and that's actually the reason for the BS what they call an anti compete agreement in the license to use Android which holds a gun to the heads of any manufacturers preventing them from selling devices running anything but stock locked down Android with all of Google's spyware and dependencies which is one of the largest reasons for stagnation in the mobile device industry not only to mention how Google purposefully killed the Windows phone and the original Amazon Fire Phone because they just refused to let them use their applications so people bought a smartphone expecting it to be a smartphone but they couldn't use Google RUclips Gmail Facebook so on
no most likely some more evil company get their hands on it and make it even worse. i think google is doing good with android despite their tracking and stuff
What do you mean Android isn't open source? Sure some of Google's apps aren't open source but the operating system still is.
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@@thzene4967 Android is not open source AOSP is. Parts of Android are under a closed source license or only implement part of what is required to operate a device such as e.g. most drivers that don't life in the kernel.
It's really hard for me to get too worked up about Google's gains from their search "monopoly" because it pays for so many other services. Are we really going to switch to open map instead of google map, or is relying on apple maps more virtuous? Do we even have an alternative to google scholar? And I actually don't know the answer to this one: how much of web's technical infrastructure is maintained or supported by google in some way?
The reason we don't have good alternatives is not coincidence or incompetence, it's _because_ of google. Alternatives are competed out of the market by google's monopoly before they have time to get good. And because of the monopoly, whenever a viable alternative pops up, only a handful of people will even try it out.
Microsoft doesn’t really have any issues at this point, other than being big. The cloud maybe, but nobody has more than 50% market share. Though in theory the government or the EU could go after the top three cloud vendors Amazon, Microsoft and Google together if they deem something to be anti-competitive.
Pretty sure governments just see big money, and think "How can we use laws to get some of that?" All we can do is hope the effects of it are in our favor...
Bah, Its all just to provide plausible deniability. Certain agencies need to push public perceptions back towards google being an actual company. In my opinion it's just a shell for 5 eyes surveillance.
@@davidf_bs Do you want to just search for a video that explains the entire situation. While providing evidence for all claims? Or would you rather me explain it. So that you can say I'm a conspiracy theorist and direct people to ignore me?
@@huzafah Who cares? Firefox isn't what is was 16 years ago. It's been Google's little bitch for more than a decade. I hope for a REAL open source browser, like ladybird.
I sure do love the illusion of change. Either nothing happens or the thing that happens is gonna make things worse, because things can't become better anymore.
That's right! Things can never EVER get better. They can only become so terrible that we end up losing everything of value and purpose. Only worthless garbage can exist on this planet now. That's the world we live in and it will never change back. It will end up killing everything and nothing but AI and garbage will be left on earth.
How? That just means it doesn't get the support from Google. Anyone right now can fork chromium and make something from it that's seperate from Google because it's open source. Most browsers are chromium _and_ seperate from Google since they just use the technology.
@@edwardhoffenheim3249 it could mean that some other browser company that uses chromium could pick up development, but thats pretty hopeful because theyd have to do it likely at a loss
Clearly you aren't a dev, every other "smaller" browser - Brave, Opera is/are based on Chromium, they don't look exactly the same as Chrome now do they? If someone wanted to make something good from that project, they still can, just fork and work on it, if it's a better product everyone will use it, but no one has done that till now, why?
The whole "don't forget to like and subscribe and ring the bell" and "comment below" routine is going to look pretty silly if YT ever changes its model.
A long time ago, instead of a like/dislike system there was a 1 star through 5 star rating system. If you ever find old videos from that era, you'll see uploaders asking viewers to "Rate, comment, subscribe"
Idk, neither of those companies have major experience with developing android tho, Oracle does have the Java expertise, but the ART has diverged heavily from the JVM
Should Android devs be worried about Google maybe ditching Android and some other company like Meta or Microsoft taking over? And what’s that gonna mean for Kotlin’s future?
It's an extremely complicated product. It will be maintained just like any other widely used tool, by the companies that use it most, supervised by the board of the open source foundation
@@TheSuperBoyProject Google seems pretty committed to Kotlin, Kotlin Multiplatform, and Compose Multiplatform. If someone else steps in, I hope they don't push their own languages or stuff like .NET MAUI or React Native.
@@paatagigolashvili9551 on top of that they also have a financial pillow to support their +- current spending for at least 3 years, according to their financial reports
What a refreshing video. You barely see videos of this quality where the creator isn't rambling to hit a minute mark and had no interest/ insight into the topic.
People love free stuff, google figured out how to monetize it. Price per ad is essentially a direct measurement of company's power to manipulate you. Buy, buy, buy... on that hamster wheel.
5:49 at that point i'm just lauhing, cause it's much more. i uploaded like 0.8 TB of our university lectures to yt as private videos so i can wath them anywhere i go.
i mean i have them on 2 disks as well but yt interface is just convenient. originally they were on one drive from the covid remote school era and most are still accessible there but one drive video player is a joke
@@galzajc1257 yeah onedrive video player sucks. it's nice that you keep copies in multiple places, i also do that, that way you don't lose your stuff, it has happened before, people's stuff on google drive suddenly disappearing.
first of all i'm extremely slow at reading and there's just no way i would read a multiple hundred page book for a single subject but i can easyly follow lectures at 3x speed, pause it, try to derive/ calculate things myself and when i'm stuck, play the video forward. it's way more effective for me. i know exactly what i'm doing and it works perfectly for me.
From legal standpoint, RUclips is technically an independent company with its own CEO and board of directors, that just so happens to be owned by Google. But we all know that breaking them up would require RUclips to buy hundreds of thousands of servers from Google to continue operating as usual, and RUclips is not profitable at all. They’d have to paywall many features like uploading 4k, re-encoding videos and limit the max length, they’re also probably going to delete all of the old, lesser known videos that don’t generate much revenue and it would probably be much more difficult to become a partner. Despite all that, RUclips will probably survive on its own as it has an enormous audience and thousands of talented creators, they just need to figure out the funding model...
@@MorganNull-uj6uu It makes more money than it spends. If youtube wasn't profitable for google, they would have axed it like every other service they no longer provide. They haven't been running a video hosting service (very expensive) for almost 2 decades out of the goodness of their heart lol.
6:50 make sure Google photos doesn't sync otherwise. I know so many people using Google photos to look at their phone images and didn't realize they enabled sync. Then it starts deleting your images on your phone not just Google storage
Amazon is the most monopolistic. They’ve got grocery stores, delivery trucks literally everywhere, TV streaming sticks that everyone uses etc. Google is also guilty of this but not as much.
If the fine of that is less than 100B dollars then we can definitely say that US government is controlled by those corporations. And also we can say for sure that its residents are cooked
"If the fine of that is less than 100B dollars then we can definitely say that US government is controlled by those corporations." Might I interest you in the concept of "lobbying?"
2:22 I don't know that's necessarily going to last that much longer - even the average user is starting to notice how trash Google search results are becoming. I just wish we taught people conscientious consumption so people weren't so easily prone to spending money through ̶b̶r̶a̶i̶n̶w̶a̶s̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ advertisements. But, I guess, capitalist interests won't let that sort of education happen.
Take your meds, kiddo. Conscious consumption is your assumptions of what should be critical thinking. Conscious consumption 😂 did you come up with that yourself? Awareness and critical thinking is all it takes to make a person conscious of the world they live in instead of keeping these Dolts in their bubble of a world it's up to us to pop their bubbles so we aren't living in Idiocracy.
If Google is split up, no one should be allowed to purchase the resultant companies. Meta buying Android would not improve the situation one bit. They should have to either succeed on their own or die, and if they die, then let them sell their physical assets, but their intellectual properties should become public domain. Companies buying other companies is a big part of what is leading to the over-centralization problem we're facing. The practice of big tech companies buying smaller competitors in their infancy is a more egregious anti-competitive practice than paying to be the default search engine. This goes beyond the tech industry as well; it isn't hard to think of companies which were ruined after selling out to a competitor. I would much rather have businesses have to compete openly and sometimes fail than everything being under the control of a few secure giants.
It’s not even a search engine anymore, it’s an add serving platform, all of your queries are rewritten to include the most key phrases to sell products as possible. Like if you search red shirt it’s gonna give you a specific brand that paid to have their product put at the top of the list
Google monopoly is bad, before we think about what google do for internet.. Firefox, android, youtube, google drive... Maybe good way to divide "good" services from monetization?
Firefox isn't google, they are independant, but funded mostly by google (paid for having google as the default search engine). Problem is, every service need monetization. The way google does it is by relying on other services to get that monetization Which isn't negative by itself, you wouldn't like to pay for your browser or to have an ad play when you boot up your browser What's negative is when the browser direct profit is clearly negative, notably by literraly paying company's to use your product. Imagine you pay customer if they take your printers. Of course this company is gonna live while other company's sink because they don't have client anymore. With printers it's already more or less the case, but at least they try to hide. Not google.
I wish more people could speak on these complex issues half as well as you, Google is a deal with the devil but the alternative is always horrifyingly worse, is it anti-competitive to not be the absolute worst choice every time? Sometimes I'm not even sure
It's way more than listed in this vid. Google threatens hardware vendors with terminating their Google Play Services agreements (whatever they're called) if they release anything non-Google but still Android, shipped with any competing GMS replacement. Try to remember: despite Huawei or Xiaomi having GMS replacement for ages, they didn't ship their Chinese replacements, for better or for worse, till they got hit with prohibitive US sanctions. The same agreement strangles any competition on the market worldwide, because preinstalls matter.
There are some other things that they did good. Chrome isn't a bad browser, especially at the time where internet explorer was his concurrent. RUclips wasn't that bad. Google drive too. What mades all those services bad are the ads. Chrome became the tools to delete adblockers, youtube got infested with more ads than news websites, and google drive while google drive don't have ads, for some reason they decided to screw over paying customer. The search engine is the only one with still a good image, because it's only service were the ads aren't abusive. You don't have image ads, only link ads. Experienced users just scroll past or have adblock, and gullible users doesn't know that they are ads.
@serzaknightcore5208 agreed, but it ideally would be better to have these extra services as different companies entirely. Tho, the logistics of starting a video streaming website, for example, isn't a thing capable of a normal person or business this day and age. Yea... most things are incapable of being up without the backing of a worth of a country.
my main issue with chrome is the selective searching. not sure when it came into existence, but duckduckgo is unfortunately taking the same route. some searches will never show you what you're looking for, based on their discretion.
Honestly I think almost everything Google/Alphabet has done has been really good, personally I think the only issue they have is their ad department. It's just, unfortunately, it also has the most successful and most power in the company, corrupting, and even more unfortunately, holding up every other part of the company
that chart at 0:48 is heavily misinterpreted. don't confuse corresponance with correlation, the chart speaks nothing about the relationship between spending on default placement and ad revenue. This was a time period where google was growing fast so of course they're getting higher revenue and of course they're spending more on placement. I'm not here to disprove the argument but this chart is inappropriate and logically inadequate evidence for the statement being made about it. Please work on your data literacy folks.
I think I almost understand what you mean, but could you walk me through it a little more? I'm learning about graph data misrepresentation right now and I want to be sure I get the logic/failure on this. Here's my specific question: the graph does show that their spending on default placement across those years increased, and their ad revenues from searches also increased. While that in a vacuum is not evidence, I believe it's intended to be supporting documentation. Google was growing very fast, but the case revolves around the premise that the reason for that is their payments for default placement. So what I essentially want to know is--what information should be represented on the graph? What would be better to include in order to better support the argument? I definitely understand that the info included here does not itself prove causation. I think it could be one piece of supporting info for an argument to prove causation though.
The problem is that the lawsuit only covers text search not other forms of search and it certainly doesn't affect their ad-revenue conflict of interest of buying and selling ad's. This was covered in another pod cast I listen to that covers the legal breakdown of the case. So this is like a slap on the wrist for them only.
don't forget that adam smith, the philosopher that a lot of capitalists love to incorrectly reference, was absolutely against monopolies because of their limiting effect on the liberties of individuals... his philosophy of free market activity was such that governments would restrict corporate activity to allow for a free market for individuals...
I'm saving RUclips lots of money by not having them waste bandwidth serving me ads and autoskipping sponsors.
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I agree with ya I am part of the same wagon as you are I just hate Google since ads cost money to run in wich ad-blockers help keep ad bills low as well
Sponsorblock only hurt the content creators.
@@aaronwolfpaws4854 Yeah, i'm not a consumer. I live off grid in the mountains, have been for 20 years now, i don't buy anything that's not like vehicle parts, bags of concrete or a bucket of screws so it's like serving ads to a monkey. Regardless of the ad, if i need brake pads or six 2x4s and some 16d nails i go down to the local mom and pop hardware store and get it i just go get some. I don't need an ad to tell me i need 50 feet of 3/4" ranch pipe to connect my rain barrels.
Not a chance i'm traveling 100+ miles over mountains and through deserts to go spend money i don't have to buy some nonsense i saw on RUclips FFS. There's no businesses around to go to, no fast food, doordash or whatever, none of that so 90% of ads i would see are useless. And i don't eat any of that anyways, that's not even 'food' IMO. (I'm a five star chef, corpo pigslop is a joke.) I think i can live without relying on Mr Beast to feed me via delivery drones. Y'all got a wild dystopia down there in the world, it's like Vince McMahon runs society these days.
What's cool is i recently looked at my stats and Sponsorblock has nearly saved me two days of my life so far of not watching ads for ballsack trimmers, soylent green and land in Scotland or whatever scam they're selling as a 'service' these days. Service deez nuts lol. But yeah, definitely use Sponsorblock, life is too short to waste it on this scam slop being hawked 24/7 like it's Idiocracy.
@@benzobernd9310does it? The sponsors have little way to tell if you're watching the sponsor, aside from if you buy their incredibly overpriced shitty products. I'd imagine statistically no one does that anyways, so it would be hard to detect sponsor block users
Android under facebook should never happen 💀
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android should just be independent imo lol. and if they have to be bought out, have a smaller company like mozilla buy them
I'm surprised samsung doesn't outright own Android.
I swore to NEVER get an iPhone, but if META (🤮) gets access to android I'm swapping over.
@voidlandguy As a poor android user, i say the same thing as it is exactly like WW3 (Both have dangerous consequences, WW3 for the world, the switch to Meta for my wallet.)
if meta buys android, then be ready for every android device to come with facebook preinstalled, and tracking to be even worse
facebook was a non-uninstallable "system app" on every one of my android phones (HTC, Samsung, LG) before i bought a Xiaomi.
If they get to own android though, i'll switch to a different platform instantly! Maybe i'll have to actually start buying apple stuff. Or switch back to good old Nokia flip phones now that those are a thing again :)
I think smartphone vendors get revenue from preinstalling Facebook. Many of them do so.
It was an uninstallable app on my Moto which bugged the shit out of me.
Phone number irrevocably linked to your Facebook account
Guess I'm switching to Ubuntu Touch 😔😔
companies are not countries, if they are treated as such, then something has gone HORRIBLY wrong
East India company and Dutch East Indies checks out
They have prominent lobbying power and too little people paying attention
The entire West is pretty much property of Blackrock nowadays.
@@shadowflash705 Lol true
I mean, look at Disney they are basically their own country already probably considered the first semi-non-physical country
Do you know what the best part is? 0:04 … 4 seconds in and the first thing I see under the vid is a ad from google, trying to convince you that they make the best ads for your company😂
Where’s the lie?
Omfg I literally have the same ad 💀
@@idkjb777language..
They probably do though
I mean yeah that was the whole bit of the first 4 minutes of the vid. They do, that's the problem
I want this to hurt Google, but I’m worried they’ll just get a slap on the wrist
Even a slap on the wrist is better than nothing. Because that means the gouvernement is watching the company's action, and that even if this time they didn't get anything, if they go further than they will know about it.
And it might even be better than their solution, because if meta is buying android, then it's like google with internet explorer, you are just giving the monopole to someone else, who might even be worse than the previous one.
The real solution that i would see is making illegal to give money for having google as the default choice. Imagine a company is paying customers to give them printer, how can you try and beat that? They made tiktok live illegal in europe for giving small amount of money to customers (though not bing rewards when they are doing something pretty similar), i don't see why giving millions to company's for using your product should be legal.
I'm scared it's gonna end up screwing over the consumer more. Very concerned for the future of android rn
@@2004seraphYeah I wouldn't worry about android. It has backing from at least 10 megacorporations.
android is not really open source anymore anyway and Google has been steering it that way further and further so whatever. I bet less than 0.1% of the population uses a phone with a custom OS such as GrapheneOS that doesn't try to steal your data constantly.
I'm not worried, I already know it will be an over-hyped slap on the wrist. That's always the outcome.
Just handing Android over to another monopoly like Meta would be the most ironic court ruling of all time.
I hope this forces them to make Google search good again.
lol not gonna happen they got the far-left right up their ass.
We'll have to wait and see if Google search engine's leadership would do it or not
lol and my comment got removed, typical
No, it won't.
Ai has replaced search. Searching is now obsolete and outdated. @@TheTundraTerror
and this won’t mean much because big corpos can find their own loophole
Which baffles me Google getting this since they have infinite money to buy the best lawyers to specifically prevent this
@@MordecroxIf a company with 90% dominance in any market is not a monopoly, then the anti monopoly law is useless. Not even the best lawyers can go this blatantly against the law.
@@Jose04537bro let’s not count our eggs yet.
It's open corruption if they can get away with it
@@Mordecrox No lawyer is good enough to stop a determined lawmaker. What you mean to say is that Google has infinite money to buy every Congressman in every State to "change their mind" about the whole thing. That's very likely to happen.
The one thing I hate is the talk of "share its info with other companies". Please no, Google, CIA, ABIN and SERASA having all my info is enough
You forget MI6, DEA, NSA. They, by proxy, receive it right away too.
@@BatkoNashBandera774 speaking as a black woman, I think the only proper reaction to this situation is to provide them with inaccurate information.
Ora ora ora. Vejo que tem um BR nos comentários. ABIN denunciou bonito aí.
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx"speaking as a black woman", "is to provide them with inaccurate information" 😂😂😂.
P.S. It took me a good minute to get the joke.
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx This is not practically possible, since your information is gathered, correlated and aggregated from MANY, different sources. Even things like your screen size are used to track you. Faking your identity in real life is easier than doing it online. The best we can do is to minimize the information we put out there to make it harder to be related to us.
Hot take companies should be legally mandated to have all devices made have unlocked bootloaders.
Microsoft exists as a business by paywalling you from legally doing that
Especially light bulbs and fridges and whatever. The problem is. The instant you allow cars to have custom firmware. Imagine morons spreading Temu firmware via TikTok posts. Gonna have a stranger coming into your living room at 130mph.
@KevinJDildonik just banned the production of e cars. A normal car does everything a car should and needs to do. Making random things have software (like a TV, fridge, and other house appliances) is just a massive Spyware vector. If u need GPS just buy a phone holder for a phone and use that for GPS (preferably one running an os that doesn't spy on you). Not to mention if someone is dumb enough to download random firmware from a random link in a random tik tok post they deserve to be removed from the gene pool as they are a net loss. This is also ignoring the reality that most people just use water is on the device and the moment they hear a tech term they never heard they think it some forbiden black magic.
@@Praisethesunsonwhat? How?
@@KevinJDildonik fun this is, that's possible today and making it illegal for you to have a custom dash display in your computer car does nothing to keep you safe.
It honestly scares me how dependent we have become on RUclips's existence. I don't think any single thing on the internet would be as damaging to society as a whole if it stopped existing overnight.
You are kidding, right? You mean we'd have to socialize with our friends, read books, take up a hobby, and clean the house?
Alternatives do exist, you know
@@dirremoire Sounds awful, not gonna lie.
@@WildVoltorb the alterantives are awful compared to youtube.
@dirremoire you do know that youtube has more value than pure entertainment, right? the amount of culture, recent history, art and freely accessible educational material that would be lost if youtube shut down is ginormous
I hate google but I also don't exactly trust Microsoft, so bing isn't an attractive competitor
In practice, that leaves you with basically Brave or Yandex, since almost all others rely on the web indexes of Google and Microsoft.
i use the opera gx browser with firefox’s search engine. works really well and its easy on your cpu.
@@kevinmcfarlane2752I don’t trust a Russian search engine…Yandex that is
Brave all the way. People don't rave about it enough. Vpn and ad blocker, values privacy.
Why does it feel like everyone loses regardless of what happens?
because everything poltically will eventually affect civillian life. The bigger u are as a company the more the gov will be involved with ur company because now ur like a mini state of ur own that has a union of influence. Hence car manufactures and other big producers...
That’s what happens when monopolies are allowed to form
Exactly. They're just rearranging the deck chairs.
@@cara-seyun monopolies are destiny. It’s the result of people trying to win lol.
It’s a lot harder to avoid them than you might think. When you really think about it…. you’ll realize you knew it all along.
Because the government is involved. It's always the same reason.
Android is the one thing where I would say that Google does it right. They have their bootloaders unlockable, the os is open source and security and privacy are integrated with the permission system.
While the bootloaders are unlockable, Google is making ROMs and rooting useless step by step, there used to be thousands of fingerprints for spoofing devices to pass the Play Integrity APIs but Google is quickly banning them and now there are only a handful of them left, if they don't stop, the only way to pass Play Integrity is going to be by having the OEM keybox which is hard to get, unless it's leaked
Did. It's turning more and more into a walled garden with each release.
Bruh you are horrendously wrong. Google is making android worse ios. It is giving android more and more restrictions since android 10
Just like Chromium, Android is open source for a reason, they want to dominate all markets
@@axethepenguin because they have to. They won't survive if they did it the apple way. Companies wouldn't use android as an operating system if it's behind a paywall.
Outlaw is famous enough to have bots spam his video within a nanosecond of release. Quite the feat, honestly.
I find that it's ironic when bots mimicked Mental Outlaw back in the day.
as a bot I can confirm.
nice try, bot
Its also pretty common for people to point that out on every video of his
May just be bots pointing out bots for the LOLZ
what would be the point of taking android away from google only to allow another big company to buy them
i feel like that would be worse
It would create competition.
Well see, then they've presented the appearance of doing something. That generates just as much political noise as, but costs _way_ less than, actually doing something.
@@jorge69696 what do you mean by competition? nothing changes, just different owners. meta is also big company and is no different from google if not worse
it still would be big tech company android vs another big company ios
The US shutting down Google's scheme to pay to be the standard search engine monopoly will likely kill Mozilla who's finances almost entirely relies in that very scheme, which make it seem likely to result in Chrome soon being the only browser engine available.
That was my thought when I heard him say that that was how Mozilla made money
its gonna make chrome even more popular💀
What about ladybird?
Man if google losing is gonna kill android and firefox I might have to cheer on google as crazy as it is to even say that.
What if Opera or Brave blows up and becomes the standard, that'd be wild
I'd love the idea of an independent RUclips, but it feels like given how big it has gotten since the pre-google days, theres no possible way it could sustain itself anymore without some other big company propping it up
And thats the most scary thing, as bad as Google, is, all of the other alternatives (Microsoft, Facebook, even Amazon) are all somehow worse....
It would be nice if they could all be broken up at the same time, but theres no way that will ever happen. Such is life in our Cyberpunk Dystopia.
yeah maybe only way it doesn't become worse
This. As bad as Google is, Android is a gift to the world. I'd be worried about its future if it got spun off.
Well, to be fair with how aggressive youtubes ads are, plus all the RUclips premium subscribers, they *might* just make it
RUclips is starting to collapse under its own weight. Too many ads, too many channels with the same content and now it's being it with a deluge of crappy AI generated content. My Youtime viewing time is actually going down.
@@dirremoire Thats not a RUclips problem, thats an everywhere problem...
Also they're not running "at a loss", they're investing in data harvesting assets, which is very profitable
RUclips has way greater costs than what could be harvested from the data. Gmail probably pays for itself though.
I mean sure, but the fact remains that no other company is in a position to utilise that data as well as google - which means they'd need to make those services shittier to turn a profit on them.
Brother, did you watch the video? That was his entire point and he went through great lengths to clarify exactly what you've said here.
I hope that finally something is done against Googles monopoly, but if it results in Meta getting full control over android Arch or Gentoo is getting my main OS even for my phone.
Agreed
Sadly that's how it is. You punish someone making a monopole, and someone else get powered from the situation. If Microsoft didn't get sued for internet explorer, then maybe chrome wouldn't be that prominent. They could have gone out, but wouldn't be as powerful as today.
Living under a rock? Win11 made many quit cold turkey
@@Mordecrox not as many as I'd want. most people wake up to their OS looking funny with the windows button in the wrong place, shrug, and learn to cope with the new annoyances like farm animals
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx thats way too acurate
Having meta take over android would be disastrous. Privacy would be a thing of the past
It's already a thing of the past my friend
You think privacy still exists? Cute
What? Apple buying Android? Meta buying Android?
I, for one, welcome our Google overlords
Obviously Apple would not be allowed to.
Apple is getting broken up and so is Meta. They all are.
"Wipe them out. All of them." - Darth Sidious, Star Wars Episode I The Phantom Menace.
Interesting ruling, I’m skeptical of how drastic the breakup will be though.
I always figured there are like some intelligence implications.
It got weird when my public middle school got chromebooks and made us all google accounts. The computers were helpful but it felt so odd to be roped into these massive structures, same thing with microsoft accounts and some sectors of education. We need a big stick to break up these companies.
You need to develop a alternative then. Azure and the MS365 ecosystem is extremely vast. As a dev you can do a shit ton of stuff (if you get the access).
Personally I believe Microsoft has a way more extreme chokehold on B2B, but Googles chokehold on the Internet is unbreakable.
Only china really can escape googles chokehold. Literally just throw enough law at them till they are effectively illegal.
The EU would need to restrict american tech-companies and then subsidize european businesses for years till they fully replace american tech products.
MS, Google, Apple, etc… can not be stopped “non-violently” ever. Its a delusion.
Imagine if the government used some of that money buying 4 thousand dollar screws (actual thing not an exaggeration) and made their own public education resources for computers...
yeah in high school i was forced to use google suite and now in college i have to use microsoft…at least google is free
You don't want that if Google gets broken up the customer are the one who's going to suffer. No one wants Meta to buy Android sometimes there are no good endings only bad and worse.
It’s a tool, one day your employer will require you to use something similar. Just deal with it and use something else in your private life
If Meta acquires Android, there’s nothing stopping Google forking it and creating their own mobile OS again. This could be a good thing.
Then again, what's been stopping Meta from just forking it and replacing GMS with their own backend? Out of every company, they'd probably be the most capable, yet they haven't done anything.
Google can always start their own company and sell it to them. Just run it from the shadows
This is horrifying.
I will switch to literally anything to avoid that, I will go full flip phone at that point
@@2004seraphthey've done some really sneaky stuff in the past I forget pertaining to what exactly
If the zucc gets android, I might have to switch to Apple and make my old droids completely offline
I really hope to God that this means Android will become truly open source
0% chance if owned by a big data harvesting corporation.
The government won't let that happen.
@@sn0w.flowww and that's actually the reason for the BS what they call an anti compete agreement in the license to use Android which holds a gun to the heads of any manufacturers preventing them from selling devices running anything but stock locked down Android with all of Google's spyware and dependencies which is one of the largest reasons for stagnation in the mobile device industry not only to mention how Google purposefully killed the Windows phone and the original Amazon Fire Phone because they just refused to let them use their applications so people bought a smartphone expecting it to be a smartphone but they couldn't use Google RUclips Gmail Facebook so on
Not if it is bought out, it could very well become closed source if bought up. Hope would it make money
no most likely some more evil company get their hands on it and make it even worse. i think google is doing good with android despite their tracking and stuff
Splitting open source project such as android is a bad idea. They should either ban these contracts or split off RUclips.
They should target google play services and manifest V3
Android isn't really open source thou.
What do you mean Android isn't open source? Sure some of Google's apps aren't open source but the operating system still is.
@@thzene4967 Android is not open source AOSP is. Parts of Android are under a closed source license or only implement part of what is required to operate a device such as e.g. most drivers that don't life in the kernel.
Never comment again
We should have never abandoned our Blackberries.
A literal case of the meme, "Upgrade. Upgrade. Fuck, go back!"
Several channels I watch are predicting nothing will come of this. They'll settle or something.
The problem with RUclips: Too many channels with the same content.
That's what Microsoft did
What an authoritative source of information.
@@CarrotConsumer You sound like someone who trusts the mainstream media...
Yes it will. Google is being broken up, my family in Congress is involved, and so am I as a military man.
Meta taking over Android sounds like a nightmare.
It's really hard for me to get too worked up about Google's gains from their search "monopoly" because it pays for so many other services. Are we really going to switch to open map instead of google map, or is relying on apple maps more virtuous? Do we even have an alternative to google scholar? And I actually don't know the answer to this one: how much of web's technical infrastructure is maintained or supported by google in some way?
yea thats the problem they have their foot in everything and it shouldnt be that way. it will suck for a while but we will adapt
@@animeloveer97 nah i already have enough stuff in my life SUCKING right now the last thing I need is for my mapping software to quit working too
The reason we don't have good alternatives is not coincidence or incompetence, it's _because_ of google. Alternatives are competed out of the market by google's monopoly before they have time to get good. And because of the monopoly, whenever a viable alternative pops up, only a handful of people will even try it out.
Now we just need to go after Microsoft, apple and countless others
Yeah right. When pigs fly.
They already are iirc
Monopoly
Countless others
@@Vexxter Yeah right, the IRS lost against microsoft and they hired an entire law firm to go after them.
Microsoft doesn’t really have any issues at this point, other than being big. The cloud maybe, but nobody has more than 50% market share. Though in theory the government or the EU could go after the top three cloud vendors Amazon, Microsoft and Google together if they deem something to be anti-competitive.
Never in my wildest nightmares would I ever want Android to be acquired by anyone else but Google.
Yeah, there is no world where it is a good idea to split up google.
@@eps-nx8zgAgree.
@@eps-nx8zg so true!
IKR! it's a disaster for android!
they say its to stop a google monopoly. but im 100%, certain the motives are not that
Pretty sure governments just see big money, and think "How can we use laws to get some of that?" All we can do is hope the effects of it are in our favor...
Bah, Its all just to provide plausible deniability. Certain agencies need to push public perceptions back towards google being an actual company. In my opinion it's just a shell for 5 eyes surveillance.
@@RichardDresslerI’ve heard of the 14 eyes but what are the 5 eyes?
MetroAndroid It won't be trust me
@@davidf_bs
Do you want to just search for a video that explains the entire situation. While providing evidence for all claims?
Or would you rather me explain it. So that you can say I'm a conspiracy theorist and direct people to ignore me?
Hopefully this won’t kill Mozilla’s funding…
I am hoping on ladybird to become an actual foss and indipendent alternative
But i don't want to illude myself with too bug hopes
@@no_name4796 no, just no.
Very scary, if firefox is harmed by this im gonna cry
Firefox had plenty of time to find a way to stay afloat without google's allowance.
@@huzafah Who cares? Firefox isn't what is was 16 years ago. It's been Google's little bitch for more than a decade. I hope for a REAL open source browser, like ladybird.
I sure do love the illusion of change. Either nothing happens or the thing that happens is gonna make things worse, because things can't become better anymore.
That's right! Things can never EVER get better. They can only become so terrible that we end up losing everything of value and purpose. Only worthless garbage can exist on this planet now. That's the world we live in and it will never change back. It will end up killing everything and nothing but AI and garbage will be left on earth.
0:25 america online people have my respect
lmao i use aol as a search engine nowadays cause it actually gives me results and is more simple like internet in the early 2010s
i wonder how many netscape users are out tgere
My girlfriend's family uses AOL they're way out in the countryside where dialup is the only way to get Internet
Honestly, I wouldn't care if Google remained a monopoly, if they would simply not manipulate their search results.
The issue with monopolies is that the manipulation is inevitable under monopolistic conditions.
Chromium becoming independent from Google sounds so amazing
unless its bought by something else worse
@@alexisroux2448 Hopefully there's a movement to make chromium it's own non-profit foundation, like what happened with .NET
How? That just means it doesn't get the support from Google. Anyone right now can fork chromium and make something from it that's seperate from Google because it's open source. Most browsers are chromium _and_ seperate from Google since they just use the technology.
@@edwardhoffenheim3249 it could mean that some other browser company that uses chromium could pick up development, but thats pretty hopeful because theyd have to do it likely at a loss
Clearly you aren't a dev, every other "smaller" browser - Brave, Opera is/are based on Chromium, they don't look exactly the same as Chrome now do they?
If someone wanted to make something good from that project, they still can, just fork and work on it, if it's a better product everyone will use it, but no one has done that till now, why?
"The Google Monopoly is coming to an End" he posted on a google site.
The whole "don't forget to like and subscribe and ring the bell" and "comment below" routine is going to look pretty silly if YT ever changes its model.
A long time ago, instead of a like/dislike system there was a 1 star through 5 star rating system. If you ever find old videos from that era, you'll see uploaders asking viewers to "Rate, comment, subscribe"
"The Google monopoly is coming to an end" no it is not.
The BlackRock monopoly is not coming to an end.
BlackRock and Google has any connection?
Two different companies mate.
@@testacals Vanguard and Blackrock hold the largest shares in every big corpo including Alphabet (Google). "Two different companies" lol, not really.
explain what blackrock has a monopoly on. ill wait
@@ShobanChiddarth 6.27% is nothing. Blackrock is just a investment firm. You pay them money and they invest it.
Imagine M$ taking over of Android. Heck, let Oracle have it.
Idk, neither of those companies have major experience with developing android tho, Oracle does have the Java expertise, but the ART has diverged heavily from the JVM
Oracle is an absolutely atrocious company, a horrible choice. Might as well close the whole project right away instead if you plan to do that.
@@Shajirr_ that's the joke
Can we have a Darknet Opsec Bible 2024 Edition please Mr Outlaw?
i remember when their motto was “do no evil”
What a coincidence that the moment Google cornered the market its services got crappy.
Should Android devs be worried about Google maybe ditching Android and some other company like Meta or Microsoft taking over? And what’s that gonna mean for Kotlin’s future?
It's an extremely complicated product. It will be maintained just like any other widely used tool, by the companies that use it most, supervised by the board of the open source foundation
@@TheSuperBoyProjecti wish
G Play services should be open source
@@TheSuperBoyProject Google seems pretty committed to Kotlin, Kotlin Multiplatform, and Compose Multiplatform. If someone else steps in, I hope they don't push their own languages or stuff like .NET MAUI or React Native.
Firefox is screwed if Google can't fund them
not really,this lawsuit will go on for years,until then mozilla has time
only if they could actually manage the money instead of for example, paying the ceo 5$ million for doing absolutely nothing to improve the browser
@@adelite mozilla is more than just browser,they are also activist company,and they should move beyond firefox
@@paatagigolashvili9551 on top of that they also have a financial pillow to support their +- current spending for at least 3 years, according to their financial reports
I hate monopolies.
Created by the government
Hmm. Wonder why they happen. Beats me.
We all do buddy
@@romdotdogderegulation gone too far.
@@12time12 Not quite. Try again.
Great, just need to break up microsoft, apple, amazon and...
Internet explorer eating glue in the corner is hilarious.
What a refreshing video. You barely see videos of this quality where the creator isn't rambling to hit a minute mark and had no interest/ insight into the topic.
People love free stuff, google figured out how to monetize it. Price per ad is essentially a direct measurement of company's power to manipulate you. Buy, buy, buy... on that hamster wheel.
Litterary free market
I don't remember buying anything I saw in an ad, is anyone else like this?
I will believe it when I see it.
Another smokescreen
Reminder that GrapheneOS is currently about to go to war with Google over their monopolization of Android via their Play Integrity.
God bless GrapheneOS, and thank God for Daniel Micay.
All it would take to destroy googles search engine would be someone implementing a 10 year old version of its algorithm.
real
NPCs would still use the shitty modern one.
"The Anatomy of a Large-Scale HypertextualWeb Search Engine" is how it worked when it was new. If only I knew how to index pages.
5:49 at that point i'm just lauhing, cause it's much more. i uploaded like 0.8 TB of our university lectures to yt as private videos so i can wath them anywhere i go.
based
i mean i have them on 2 disks as well but yt interface is just convenient. originally they were on one drive from the covid remote school era and most are still accessible there but one drive video player is a joke
@@galzajc1257 yeah onedrive video player sucks. it's nice that you keep copies in multiple places, i also do that, that way you don't lose your stuff, it has happened before, people's stuff on google drive suddenly disappearing.
That's pretty sad.
Bro is so lazy he thinks having private lectures is easier than reading a book to full detail?
first of all i'm extremely slow at reading and there's just no way i would read a multiple hundred page book for a single subject but i can easyly follow lectures at 3x speed, pause it, try to derive/ calculate things myself and when i'm stuck, play the video forward. it's way more effective for me. i know exactly what i'm doing and it works perfectly for me.
From legal standpoint, RUclips is technically an independent company with its own CEO and board of directors, that just so happens to be owned by Google. But we all know that breaking them up would require RUclips to buy hundreds of thousands of servers from Google to continue operating as usual, and RUclips is not profitable at all. They’d have to paywall many features like uploading 4k, re-encoding videos and limit the max length, they’re also probably going to delete all of the old, lesser known videos that don’t generate much revenue and it would probably be much more difficult to become a partner. Despite all that, RUclips will probably survive on its own as it has an enormous audience and thousands of talented creators, they just need to figure out the funding model...
One of the CEOs is dead. 😢
RUclips is profitable though.
@@devilselbowHow
@@MorganNull-uj6uu It makes more money than it spends.
If youtube wasn't profitable for google, they would have axed it like every other service they no longer provide.
They haven't been running a video hosting service (very expensive) for almost 2 decades out of the goodness of their heart lol.
@@devilselbow But how does it make more money than it spends? Think of all the RUclipsrs who are making money. That’s millions a day surely?
I recommend getting into mobile Linux before Android reaches new levels of evil. Just to have a backup plan. ^^'
But what about ROBLOX? D:
I just hope that Firefox survives without Google's money
They won't
6:50 make sure Google photos doesn't sync otherwise. I know so many people using Google photos to look at their phone images and didn't realize they enabled sync. Then it starts deleting your images on your phone not just Google storage
Omg so it isn’t just me who had this happened…. Back in 2019 it deleted thousands of my meme pics. F Google
Unlockable bootloaders, Standartized boot and firmware loading for all!
That would be one of the most beneficial things to come out of this if it happened (which I doubt)
Amazon is the most monopolistic. They’ve got grocery stores, delivery trucks literally everywhere, TV streaming sticks that everyone uses etc. Google is also guilty of this but not as much.
I wonder why the EU doesn't sue Google!
If the fine of that is less than 100B dollars then we can definitely say that US government is controlled by those corporations.
And also we can say for sure that its residents are cooked
Government controlled by corporations it's litterary result of free market
"If the fine of that is less than 100B dollars then we can definitely say that US government is controlled by those corporations."
Might I interest you in the concept of "lobbying?"
2:22 I don't know that's necessarily going to last that much longer - even the average user is starting to notice how trash Google search results are becoming. I just wish we taught people conscientious consumption so people weren't so easily prone to spending money through ̶b̶r̶a̶i̶n̶w̶a̶s̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ advertisements. But, I guess, capitalist interests won't let that sort of education happen.
Take your meds, kiddo. Conscious consumption is your assumptions of what should be critical thinking.
Conscious consumption 😂 did you come up with that yourself?
Awareness and critical thinking is all it takes to make a person conscious of the world they live in instead of keeping these Dolts in their bubble of a world it's up to us to pop their bubbles so we aren't living in Idiocracy.
They should make a version of Monopoly based on Google, where no matter what anyone does, Google always wins.
If Google is split up, no one should be allowed to purchase the resultant companies. Meta buying Android would not improve the situation one bit. They should have to either succeed on their own or die, and if they die, then let them sell their physical assets, but their intellectual properties should become public domain. Companies buying other companies is a big part of what is leading to the over-centralization problem we're facing. The practice of big tech companies buying smaller competitors in their infancy is a more egregious anti-competitive practice than paying to be the default search engine. This goes beyond the tech industry as well; it isn't hard to think of companies which were ruined after selling out to a competitor. I would much rather have businesses have to compete openly and sometimes fail than everything being under the control of a few secure giants.
You are correct.
It would be hilarious(ly dark) if under your Android sell off scenario, MSFT buys it. Icing on the cake with monopoly tactics.
Windows Mobile is coming back, baby!
@@VioletRM As a former windows phone user, I'm all for it.
None of them are really search engines any more, they are ad engines.
It took the goverment decades to figure out what everyone already knew.
No it's just the Biden Administration appointed someone that wasn't a corporate bootlicker but actually did their damn fuckin job for once
Hopefully that means this adocalypse will also end. (I'm tired of them claiming it's against TOS just because we want an ad block on.)
It’s not even a search engine anymore, it’s an add serving platform, all of your queries are rewritten to include the most key phrases to sell products as possible. Like if you search red shirt it’s gonna give you a specific brand that paid to have their product put at the top of the list
If the FTC allows another big tech to buy android then we are SCREWED
In theory maybe
But will in practice anything change
Google monopoly is bad, before we think about what google do for internet.. Firefox, android, youtube, google drive... Maybe good way to divide "good" services from monetization?
Firefox isn't google, they are independant, but funded mostly by google (paid for having google as the default search engine).
Problem is, every service need monetization. The way google does it is by relying on other services to get that monetization
Which isn't negative by itself, you wouldn't like to pay for your browser or to have an ad play when you boot up your browser
What's negative is when the browser direct profit is clearly negative, notably by literraly paying company's to use your product. Imagine you pay customer if they take your printers. Of course this company is gonna live while other company's sink because they don't have client anymore. With printers it's already more or less the case, but at least they try to hide. Not google.
so called effective altruism is the road to hell paved with good intentions
@@serzaknightcore5208 Google is 80% of found
You can't it's too late that's how free market works
@@Stszelec01 I hate free market
A lot of monopolies are coming down. Another big one is Apple and honestly i’m all for it. it’s been long enough!!
It's easier to imagine Google forcing the government to break up, than the government forcing Google to break up.
I wish more people could speak on these complex issues half as well as you, Google is a deal with the devil but the alternative is always horrifyingly worse, is it anti-competitive to not be the absolute worst choice every time? Sometimes I'm not even sure
Nah don't get hopes too high.
Thank you Lina Khan for breaking Google's monopoly. Now it's John Deere's turn.
"Nothing ever happens"
Perhaps they saw the writing on the wall all those years ago when they first started work on Google Fuchsia?
It's way more than listed in this vid. Google threatens hardware vendors with terminating their Google Play Services agreements (whatever they're called) if they release anything non-Google but still Android, shipped with any competing GMS replacement.
Try to remember: despite Huawei or Xiaomi having GMS replacement for ages, they didn't ship their Chinese replacements, for better or for worse, till they got hit with prohibitive US sanctions.
The same agreement strangles any competition on the market worldwide, because preinstalls matter.
Googles search engine is the only thing that google has ever done good and Google should have never been anything else but that.
There are some other things that they did good. Chrome isn't a bad browser, especially at the time where internet explorer was his concurrent. RUclips wasn't that bad. Google drive too.
What mades all those services bad are the ads. Chrome became the tools to delete adblockers, youtube got infested with more ads than news websites, and google drive while google drive don't have ads, for some reason they decided to screw over paying customer.
The search engine is the only one with still a good image, because it's only service were the ads aren't abusive. You don't have image ads, only link ads. Experienced users just scroll past or have adblock, and gullible users doesn't know that they are ads.
@serzaknightcore5208 agreed, but it ideally would be better to have these extra services as different companies entirely. Tho, the logistics of starting a video streaming website, for example, isn't a thing capable of a normal person or business this day and age. Yea... most things are incapable of being up without the backing of a worth of a country.
@@serzaknightcore5208 but aren't some of the search adds malicious tho?
my main issue with chrome is the selective searching. not sure when it came into existence, but duckduckgo is unfortunately taking the same route. some searches will never show you what you're looking for, based on their discretion.
Honestly I think almost everything Google/Alphabet has done has been really good, personally I think the only issue they have is their ad department. It's just, unfortunately, it also has the most successful and most power in the company, corrupting, and even more unfortunately, holding up every other part of the company
that chart at 0:48 is heavily misinterpreted. don't confuse corresponance with correlation, the chart speaks nothing about the relationship between spending on default placement and ad revenue. This was a time period where google was growing fast so of course they're getting higher revenue and of course they're spending more on placement. I'm not here to disprove the argument but this chart is inappropriate and logically inadequate evidence for the statement being made about it. Please work on your data literacy folks.
I think I almost understand what you mean, but could you walk me through it a little more? I'm learning about graph data misrepresentation right now and I want to be sure I get the logic/failure on this.
Here's my specific question: the graph does show that their spending on default placement across those years increased, and their ad revenues from searches also increased. While that in a vacuum is not evidence, I believe it's intended to be supporting documentation. Google was growing very fast, but the case revolves around the premise that the reason for that is their payments for default placement.
So what I essentially want to know is--what information should be represented on the graph? What would be better to include in order to better support the argument?
I definitely understand that the info included here does not itself prove causation. I think it could be one piece of supporting info for an argument to prove causation though.
Your going on graduate level critical thinking. Something MANY Americans do not possess
Was that the intention at all of showing them together?
Google just has the best ui. All other search engines look like they were made in 2010
The problem is that the lawsuit only covers text search not other forms of search and it certainly doesn't affect their ad-revenue conflict of interest of buying and selling ad's. This was covered in another pod cast I listen to that covers the legal breakdown of the case. So this is like a slap on the wrist for them only.
It's really frustrating that %60 or more of my emails are junk/spam, and it would take forever to sort it all out.
Even if they don't default I'm defaulting it to Google because it's so much better with Google account and and all the features
8:10 - None of which allow users to upload their own videos so be careful what you wish for, else you might end up losing your own cash cow.
cool art 3:16
Makes me wanna say Hell yeah
Hell yeah
They key word is "could be"
End of the video.
don't forget that adam smith, the philosopher that a lot of capitalists love to incorrectly reference, was absolutely against monopolies because of their limiting effect on the liberties of individuals... his philosophy of free market activity was such that governments would restrict corporate activity to allow for a free market for individuals...
0:04 Bill Gates be looking like 🤓
Btw Bill Gates was a business tyrant and would do very questionably ethical things throughout his entire career
“First time?”
Cringe comment
Glasses = 🤓
PLEASE LAUGH
you be looking like 👶
Watch this go nowhere
like everything in 2024
it usually does, ain't the first time google's been sued for this exact same reason lol
It's going to go somewhere, why do you think it won't?
1:55 I just keep the installer on a thumb drive at this point, so I don't even open Edge, ever.
Honestly L, edge is based.
Nothing will change. The only things that will change are the only that you don't want to change.
Switched over to brave about a year ago. Best decision I've ever made.