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Question: If an enemy heavy hits my MAX with a havoc shell, will I still get the max HP bonus from a friendly engi hitting me with their underbarrel? P.S. I really enjoyed your YT stream while testing/playing with the punisher
About it being a guerrilla warfare weapon, it works perfectly on the hermes cloak infiltrator on VS. ive had up to a 4KD on a session with high Kpm too.
Normally I dont care about new NS weapons, but for this weapon I can truly make an exception for. Looking forward to using this weapon once the patch hits live on PS4
On thing: The HE nades don't have an arm distance like the normal ones. For that reason alone, I actually really like the default under barrel and use it all the time.
@@MrMaxBushido if I remember correctly it deals 850 damage (check IGoRawr's video for the exact number) so you can only one shot them of you hit them in the head with the grenade.
I like the gun. Looks great, feels good and sounds great. It's a good gun but not overly strong imo. The Class specific grenade launcher is a fun gimmick and a great direction in design but for most classes it's just that: a gimmick and very situational at best imho. Heavy assault: can be very nice to crush a MAX push but the fact, that you have to give up your LMG for it hurts it's use. The Ammo is really limited like with all classes except Engineer, wich shouldn't be a problem, when staying with the main push. ASP with MCG as sec weapon helps though. Light assault: It's fun, but that's it mostly. If there was a stronger knockback on enemies, I could see it more useful. For a class like LA, that is mostly cut of from supplies, 2 grenades are not really enough. When you use the punisher as sec. weapon with ASP its ok I guess. Medic: Okayish, if you use the Shield and still want to have an AOE heal but Healing aura is already an option and healing is not that big of a thing normally reviving is, what makes a medic really worth it. Most people use medikits etc. anyways or die pretty fast. The fast TTK in PS2 makes healing a bit weak in general imo. the fact, that you have to give up your assault rife for it is even worse. Infiltrator: nice to have, if you use the punisher, because you like the smg, the grenades aren't that strong. same supply problem, the LA has and that little bit of screen blur is minor and very short. Would recommend the normal grenades here Engineer: The only class specific grenade, that is really worth to take most of the time. Unlimited supply makes it even better. Raising the max health of vehicles can really help on a tank clash and the ability to "save" a burning tank because you can start with a bit of repair from 40 meters away is pretty useful. Aside from that, it does wonders, when you fire it on MAXes and don't have to expose yourself that much. unlike with medic and HA the weapon is not really a downstep from most carbines and reaching ASP makes the punisher potentially weaker than before, cause you could take assault rifles. When using a vehicle, there is pretty much no reason to not take the punisher or Archer soo it's more of a question between offensive or defensive here. Archer can finish off burning vehicles sometimes while punisher can protect you against C4 fairies and repair + raise max vehicle health temporarily. Well that's my impression of the Punisher so far. I'm already excited to hear, what you have to say about it. I love your weapon reviews^^
normal grenade launcher so good, throw an EMP into enemy, launch the grenade and watch them die, if some one still alive finish them off. btw i can't remove The Class specific grenade launcher after equip it, what an annoying bug
Appreciate the inputs and thoughts mate! I will definitely say that I agre with a lot of these points in regards to the underbarrel maybe besides the Medic. I think it has some serious merit in group/chokepoint situations where TTK is a lot messier due to players intersecting and changing positions with each other a lot. Giving up the AR is certainly a rough choice to make but the weapon itself in a pinch is very solid, so in those point hold situations you are more than capable of taking out the odd rogue target who breaches your defences. Once again though, some really solid thoughts here mate :)
@@CAMIKAZE78 After seeing you review, I can understand, why you find the medic one useful. The fact, that it can cleanse the effect of concussion grenades etc. could really be a way to save a chokepoint here and there. I looked at it from a TR main point of view and giving up the AR is really hard, since TR has some of the best ARs ^^ But as always great review. I skipped the recoil part mostly because recoil is a nonissue with this weapon anyways. Thanks for putting the effort in, to make 20 min weapon review :D
TR Medic/Engie player here. The engie grenade is awesome, and so is medic's. The way i use the medic grenade is when i'm pushing alongside the healing aura, when we're point defending and there's something to cleanse or simply when there are too many players that it's hard to shoot so i just spam heal nades and watch certs go brrrr (obviously situational, but pretty common in biolab fights) The way it works for engineer is that it adds max hp to the vehicle while healing it, but here's something you might've not noticed. It adds that HP INSTANTLY. AKA a prowler at 100 HP for example will instantly jump to 600 (whopping 500 HP boost, amazing for maxes) while healing overtime, you can really save a vehicle/max in a very tight spot, and you basically have an infinite supply of it aswell. But that's coming from someone who preferred SMGs over ARs anyway, so maybe i don't see the point you're making. Just wanted to throw my 2 cents on just how good, versatile and FUN the punisher is on medic/engineer specifically (I don't play other classes so i wouldn't know) edit:fixed an error on my side
This gun is my favourite addition to this game in a long, long time. I just recently returned to the game after about 2 years away, and I'm blown away by how much positive change has happened. Thanks for this amazing in depth guide, Camikaze, mate.
Hi Cami, very good review as usual :-) The Punisher seems to me like the beefy big brother of the NS7 (the Cassette Player SMG) and the class-specific underbarrel grenade launcher for sure is a bonus. I rarely get to play PS2 these days but I keep watching RUclips content on it, among them being your weapon reviews. Keep up the good work!
Ever buy a gun in game and think, man I'm just not killing things like I thought I would? Not with this gun. This gun kills. You just have to reload it all the time.
As an NSO main, we didn't really have any options for engineer that involved underbarrel grenades before this thing came out, so I'm just happy I can finally toy around with that type of playstyle
IMO the default underbarrel fits the weapon perfectly, and i kind of wished it was in the review. The grenade isn't meant for regular spam, just get either the S weapon or even the thumper to shoot 6 of them rapidly. Where the unberbarrel truely shines is as a finisher, since it has no arming distance, and what feels like a faster switch time, it realy comes in usefull when confirming a kill, just use it when either the CoF gets too big or the small mag runs out.
Really hope the class specific traits of the weapon make their way into more fun toys on the field... Hell even for older weapons! Also hoping to see more variations make it in to crate more unique, different playstyles!
I grabbed it and started playing around with it today, one thing I'll note is that if you're playing light assault and you have maxed out ammo printer it's a good choice with this one, I find that I'm constantly running it out of ammo and the extra clips can be a life saver, it also extends the number of impulse grenades you get. Other than that I'm with Cami on pretty much every point, lean into CQC and don't over accessorize, this thing is actually pretty great out of the box with just extended mags soft point and the class based underbarrel.
Can you put the NSX Tomoe in your list of weapons to review? The only review of it on RUclips appears to be from before the damage model was revamped. No one really has paid attention to this gun. I just auraxed the Tengu twice (-P and Networked) and your review was valuable to me!
Saved a lib several times by jumping out with safefall and hitting it with one of these bad boys when it was on fire. I would definitely recommend for when you're running air/vehicle crew as the quick bonus HP/rep effect when coupled with other repair inputs can be lifesaving.
this is a really solid weapon for medics and engineers to supplement their healing and repair, and it's a real reliable and hard hitter to boot. a big *but* is that there are still better options in each class, so if you're not using it's supplementary underslung then you might be better in the market for faction specifics like the kindred or the more versatile lmg choices. you can't really go wrong with it for close to mid range engagements, and it'll definitely serve you well, even if the damage drops off sooner than you'd like!
LA's Impulse is the closest thing to remind me of Spinfusor Jumping from Starsiege: Tribes and Tribes 2. The downside is I'm so used to Team Fortress 2's air strafing after such a jump, which doesn't work in this game as strafing while in the air kills your forward speed on Auraxis.
I used to use the punisher a lot in Planetside 1 because it was the only weapon in the game that had a secondary underbarrel grenade launcher. I’m glad they decided to bring it to PS2. Now if only they’d bring back core combat weapons.
I've got a question, would spamming the underbarrel attachment as an engineer be able to mass repair a player made base? Would more than 1 instance of it be active like how the repair grenade works when thrown? Also I can think of some situations where the underbarrel option for the heavy will come into play; 1. When moving as support infantry against an enemy tank column. 2. When as a jockey on a Valkyrie or Harasserer since you can fire while in a vehicle. 3rd one I had in mind was when people MAX crash but that's a 50/50 for me.
I was already thinking of setting up a one-size-fits-all ASP medic setup, but this thing? It's practically a gift from gun jesus. I'm thinking secondary obelisk for long range, this thing for short range, HE underbarrel for chokepoints and revive grenades for when a friendly dives in front of the HE.
Could you re-review the Hunter-QCX "crossbow"? The new incendiary bolts are quite interesting and I've recently realized that detector-bolts do enough damage to kill an injured target on headshot.
@@jeffreyhoon like Crown B point hold shot by multiple sources and one grenade, somehow stayed alive until they got to the router, tried to stay alive by staying cloaked, and I just happened to shoot a dart at his head.
Don’t suppose you can do a javelin review on the NSO faction? Been having a hard time understanding the use of this vehicle for some time now on wether or not if it’s more for Combat with the nest launcher or out maneuvering your opponent
This is a fun little weapon - it's pretty much made from the ground up as a support weapon. I like that the built-in HE grenade is considerably weaker than the S-type rifle UBG launcher as well - enough to do a little AoE damage, but nothing stupid. Setting up a little engie nest with this and spamming repair grenades is an awesome way to earn some certs and help the team!
Im already in love with the punisher , it feels like all the best parts of the other smg's rolled in to 1 with the added underbarrel shanigans , i do have a question about your crosshair tho , are you using some sort of mod/addon for it , pretty sure mine doesnt light up that bright when targetting a enemy
I've got a video topic request. I'm re-downloading after a few years away from the game. I left before the base-building features. For someone new(ish) how does one go from the log-in button, to the battle field, and know what to expect? the flow of battle? etc.
Have you considered doing a quick review of the starter weapons with the large number of new and returning players? Then you can add a section to the end to recommend different weapons to go to after getting the starters to auraxium for similar playstyles, or a completely different playstyle to spice things up
I pretty much only use this weapon for the underbarrel as it gives such amazing mobility that drifter jump jets become a viable way to get around in biolabs without all the downtime you would normally have going up again. combined with the Horizon, it's a mid air slaughterhouse combination and the Punisher can get me out of sticky cqc encounters too.
Which server is this and even I too get connection quality as poor like 150 ms but the server latency will jump all the time do you use anything that helps to reduce the server latency or keeps it constant, thank you
Something you didn't mention about the he rounds for the underbarrel is that they have no minimum arming distance, so you are doing less damage than other underbarrels, but you can dish out that damage at close range.
We all have our opinions depending on our playstyle, and I don't think I can blame you to have to disagree with me ... -Within short range Soft Point Ammo gives you too little advantage as it will be easier to hit 4 headshots instead, with or without SPA -With SPA equipped, 125 damage tier drops at 20 meters, as opposed to High Velocity Ammo, which drops only at 27 meters -HVA allows you to compete with or even outmatch carbines like AF-19, in terms of raw DPS over range -(as opposed to SPA) 20% bullet velocity can have it's places when fighting Light Assault or taking targets at other ranges than CQC -ClassGL is so unique and exclusive - it puts Punisher as the best weapon in the entire game ... Regarding tips and tricks- Have you tried stacking Ambusher jump jets with the ImpulseGL? 50+ meters in one jump! It's so fricking cool, I love it!
this one feel like it best to hip fire most of the time considering the bloom of the crosshair is very small plus the grenade launcher that strapped to the gun at the get-go is very niche
So NS Operatives still don't have access to a normal gun with a standard underbarrel attachment. The NS-66 is a good weapon with interesting underbarrel options, but no smoke and the grenades are nerfed. The Yumi does have the standard underbarrel attachments but the bullet firing is a very niche configuration that most people (including me) cant stand. I guess the wait continues. Good review of the Punisher though. Very informative. Thanks!
They've really been stepping up their game with the additions they have added, I had to do research on those additional types of hard light barrier they added as well This gun sounds like the perfect flexible side grade 👌 as much as I still consider nanite systems weapons controversial because they kind of spoiled the uniqueness of each faction (They really should have added vehicle hacking and cross-faction looting maybe) this gun sounds very useful
"Slightly lower damage than the other underbarrel launchers" It literally does half the damage. You don't even spawn with enough grenades to kill one player. And let's not forget its complete inability to pierce armor while the S rifles get underbarrel Halberds
This is basically a slightly worse edirani (slower reload, worse recoil) with an UBG. Considering Eridani is pretty damn good the punisher isn't too shabby either.
Haven't finished but the GL under barrel also doesn't shoot right down the middle. Trying to fit it between two objects I actually struggled to get it between as shots would typically shoot to the left or right of the center of the cross hairs. Is it normal for under barrel GLs to have this?
I mostly waited punisher for it's impulse granades, but in reality they are just to slow to pull. Let me explain. Carabines have unique querk - they super accurate midair, so there is no way what i would use smg on my light assault. This left only one option - ASP perk for smg as secondaries. And it is just to slow. You need to pull your Punisher, then press gear slot again, wait for switch animation and only then you can use it's underbarel launcher. I wish we could have impulse granades similar to fujin throwing knifes - press G and with short delay you already recieve acceleration. Just one sharp and fast move. Punisher is just a pocket version of "SPACE ASSHOLE" LA loadout - when you equip maxed Heavy Weight implant and push maxes and snipers from air-resupply pods on any tower-type base, like crown. My dissapointment is immesurable and my day is ruined.
I really love this weapon so far, but it needs some overwork (especially for the engineer) I would wish for a longer and stronger repair heal.... example: a car or tank drives by crittically damaged, give him a shot of the repair grenade and focus on other things while the vehicle heals 50 or 75% health over time (can be stopped by any kind of damage and if the target is full heal the effect stops even if the timer didn't run out yet) Right now the repair boost just feels really weak and is almost useless (even with giving the target some extra health, the effect runs out way too fast) Just my opinion.... else it's a wonderful weapon!
Yeah that was a small editting error on my behalf that I didn't pick up on, I was writing down the numbers we gathered from the testing and thought I had cut the video differently. Something to learn from :)
@@CAMIKAZE78 It was the thing I was most interested on ಥ_ಥ since I'm on PS4 and I can't test it myself, but one day I shall. Keep up the good work ᕦ⊙෴⊙ᕤ
In my opinion. We need more guns. And those rare ones need to be more available. And to Aruax should be lowered to 500/600 kills. To a new player 1,160 through 5 guns is a shit ton. But more unique guns would be nice
@@Droid15243Z I'm ps4 bro. They don't even care about us anymore. No matter how large we get or how much money we spend. I just want the Black Camo. Shit makes me sad. Like I spend money and time in a game and it barley rewards me.
It's a pretty good gun as I got mine to Auraxium in like 23 hours. Would have been quicker If I didn't have other stuff to do. It's a very interesting gun though. I can see a nerf coming for it though as the anti repair nades are a bit broken if used well. See an annoying Max with 20 engie on it? Anti repair nade it and watch it die from lack of heals. See that annoying shield sundy getting repaired? Spam anti repair nades and watch it die quickly due to lack of repairs. You also got the impulse nades for the LA. Let's be honest the LA is a pretty unbalanced class already. I found myself getting a lot more kills due to the impulse nade allowing me to go to places far more quickly than normal. It's a very fun nade to use but mixed with the already unbalanced LA it's pretty crazy. Not to mention for VS anyway it's better than all of our smgs which is a bit depressing.
Are they getting ideas from Tribes? Because I can see that working. Lol. Tribes has good weapons. Tried playing the game, sadly I'm terrible so I uninstalled it.
Every single time I watch your videos I wonder... Where do you find people who stay (relatively) still and not spazz around, spamming the crouch key and jumping everywhere?
I swear to god the reticle of my Punisher WITH the laser sight doesn't look as accurate as his does without it. I watch him hipfiring while moving and have no idea HOW the crosshairs are that small.
man i s*wish the MAX got a cool tool like the Punisher... but yeah, this gun changes a LOT how MAX play: engie punishers can take a MAX from 2000 health to 2500, great for pushes, while the Heavy assault's punisher makes sure the MAX can fall out of a 1shot, no matter how many engineers it has.. only thing that relaly annoys me with the Havoc is that a single one can eat half of a self-repair's duration, without the MAX really being able to do much about it
I feel like this weapon needs an magazine size increase. It has a high rate of fire so it should have a base amount of 30 with 40 of the extended mag. I find it underwhelming considering the amount of bullets to kill which will make you reload often. Some SMGs like the VE series has 40 Magazine capacity with a slower firerate. This doesn't make sense to me. Why would higher capacity guns have slower firerates compared to the faster firing ones!?
It's not because of balance in mind. Some guns have more rounds in them and fire slower, just so that you can increase the duration of hurt being delivered. Something like supression fire. It's not to increase killing potential, it is to increase the time where the door for example is under fire, longer than you would be able to do with other guns.
If this gun had a special compensator that reduces horizontal recoil, it will be perfect. Annnnnnnnnnnnd I had it auraxed within a month without even trying to use it. Can't touch NS-7 ever again(recoil-wise this one has more vertical recoil but horizontal is comparable, and this thing hits way harder at close range).
There isn't any plans to remove it at this stage as far as I am aware mate, but there are certainly ways to get around it! You just can't sit in one spot for a long period of time now.
Man it must be scary to play a fps and not be invisible 100% of the time. I know it's awkward what you are going through and you feel shy sometimes but try to get outside of that cloak and get some sun bud.
Gonna bring this again. I have small gripe about your TTK numbers, PS2 uses weapons with bullet velocity, and your numbers use formula that doesn't add bullet travel time to TTK. The proper formula for any distance shots would be "TTK = ((Shots To Kill-1))*Rate Of Fire/60) + (Distance/Velocity)", you can recheck it in calculators like this - protovision.github.io/ttk-calc .
@@MadMarco All TTK numbers are theoretical, but counting in bullet velocity is important because it's about 0.2s difference for weapons like SMG for long range shots, it adds a lot.
This gun feels a little too strong the way it is. I couldn't outgun it (even at 20 meters) and even with getting headshots. In a 1 on 1 fight I just couldn't do it, and it only seemed to be the Punisher, every other gun I could keep up with, idk.
I wouldn't really call it OP at this stage as it shares the same damage model as the VX-9 Terminus for the VS, and the T9A-Butcher for the TR. It is lacking in uptime too, which is how it keeps itself in check from being OP I think.
i only need 2 day to max auraxium this baby while i need at least 1 week for other gun for all other soldier wonder is this gun worth it. 10 out of 10 worst it
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Question:
If an enemy heavy hits my MAX with a havoc shell, will I still get the max HP bonus from a friendly engi hitting me with their underbarrel?
P.S. I really enjoyed your YT stream while testing/playing with the punisher
The Death Cam, ruined my stealth game in this game, will they remove it? I stopped playing just for that ...
About it being a guerrilla warfare weapon, it works perfectly on the hermes cloak infiltrator on VS. ive had up to a 4KD on a session with high Kpm too.
I wont complain if more 20 minute reviews are coming :3
Might be able to provide chief, glad you enjoyed it!
Normally I dont care about new NS weapons, but for this weapon I can truly make an exception for. Looking forward to using this weapon once the patch hits live on PS4
Do u know when we will be getting it?
I used the punisher it's OP af
@@djovanbarnes7984 I heard early july is when Ps4 is getting a massive update, which includes Construction finally.
Hopefully m8 hopefully
@@bluenightfury4365 Roger that
On thing: The HE nades don't have an arm distance like the normal ones. For that reason alone, I actually really like the default under barrel and use it all the time.
Was actually something I didn't find out while testing this and is a point to consider, thanks mate!
Do they one shot kill at least infils?
@@MrMaxBushido if I remember correctly it deals 850 damage (check IGoRawr's video for the exact number) so you can only one shot them of you hit them in the head with the grenade.
@@ianc8959 ouch
I like the gun. Looks great, feels good and sounds great. It's a good gun but not overly strong imo. The Class specific grenade launcher is a fun gimmick and a great direction in design but for most classes it's just that: a gimmick and very situational at best imho.
Heavy assault: can be very nice to crush a MAX push but the fact, that you have to give up your LMG for it hurts it's use. The Ammo is really limited like with all classes except Engineer, wich shouldn't be a problem, when staying with the main push. ASP with MCG as sec weapon helps though.
Light assault: It's fun, but that's it mostly. If there was a stronger knockback on enemies, I could see it more useful. For a class like LA, that is mostly cut of from supplies, 2 grenades are not really enough. When you use the punisher as sec. weapon with ASP its ok I guess.
Medic: Okayish, if you use the Shield and still want to have an AOE heal but Healing aura is already an option and healing is not that big of a thing normally reviving is, what makes a medic really worth it. Most people use medikits etc. anyways or die pretty fast. The fast TTK in PS2 makes healing a bit weak in general imo. the fact, that you have to give up your assault rife for it is even worse.
Infiltrator: nice to have, if you use the punisher, because you like the smg, the grenades aren't that strong. same supply problem, the LA has and that little bit of screen blur is minor and very short. Would recommend the normal grenades here
Engineer: The only class specific grenade, that is really worth to take most of the time. Unlimited supply makes it even better. Raising the max health of vehicles can really help on a tank clash and the ability to "save" a burning tank because you can start with a bit of repair from 40 meters away is pretty useful. Aside from that, it does wonders, when you fire it on MAXes and don't have to expose yourself that much. unlike with medic and HA the weapon is not really a downstep from most carbines and reaching ASP makes the punisher potentially weaker than before, cause you could take assault rifles. When using a vehicle, there is pretty much no reason to not take the punisher or Archer soo it's more of a question between offensive or defensive here. Archer can finish off burning vehicles sometimes while punisher can protect you against C4 fairies and repair + raise max vehicle health temporarily.
Well that's my impression of the Punisher so far. I'm already excited to hear, what you have to say about it. I love your weapon reviews^^
normal grenade launcher so good, throw an EMP into enemy, launch the grenade and watch them die, if some one still alive finish them off.
btw i can't remove The Class specific grenade launcher after equip it, what an annoying bug
Appreciate the inputs and thoughts mate!
I will definitely say that I agre with a lot of these points in regards to the underbarrel maybe besides the Medic. I think it has some serious merit in group/chokepoint situations where TTK is a lot messier due to players intersecting and changing positions with each other a lot. Giving up the AR is certainly a rough choice to make but the weapon itself in a pinch is very solid, so in those point hold situations you are more than capable of taking out the odd rogue target who breaches your defences.
Once again though, some really solid thoughts here mate :)
@@CAMIKAZE78 After seeing you review, I can understand, why you find the medic one useful. The fact, that it can cleanse the effect of concussion grenades etc. could really be a way to save a chokepoint here and there. I looked at it from a TR main point of view and giving up the AR is really hard, since TR has some of the best ARs ^^
But as always great review. I skipped the recoil part mostly because recoil is a nonissue with this weapon anyways. Thanks for putting the effort in, to make 20 min weapon review :D
TR Medic/Engie player here. The engie grenade is awesome, and so is medic's.
The way i use the medic grenade is when i'm pushing alongside the healing aura, when we're point defending and there's something to cleanse or simply when there are too many players that it's hard to shoot so i just spam heal nades and watch certs go brrrr (obviously situational, but pretty common in biolab fights)
The way it works for engineer is that it adds max hp to the vehicle while healing it, but here's something you might've not noticed. It adds that HP INSTANTLY. AKA a prowler at 100 HP for example will instantly jump to 600 (whopping 500 HP boost, amazing for maxes) while healing overtime, you can really save a vehicle/max in a very tight spot, and you basically have an infinite supply of it aswell.
But that's coming from someone who preferred SMGs over ARs anyway, so maybe i don't see the point you're making. Just wanted to throw my 2 cents on just how good, versatile and FUN the punisher is on medic/engineer specifically (I don't play other classes so i wouldn't know)
edit:fixed an error on my side
I believe the Suits approve this review. Here's to hoping they cut you a bonus check.
Thanks for the kind words mate!
Vanu smiles upon you.
This gun is my favourite addition to this game in a long, long time. I just recently returned to the game after about 2 years away, and I'm blown away by how much positive change has happened.
Thanks for this amazing in depth guide, Camikaze, mate.
The under barrel is great for getting snipers off pads as a light assault lol
oooh that sounds devious AND fun.
The NS-66 Yeetisher
Hi Cami, very good review as usual :-)
The Punisher seems to me like the beefy big brother of the NS7 (the Cassette Player SMG) and the class-specific underbarrel grenade launcher for sure is a bonus.
I rarely get to play PS2 these days but I keep watching RUclips content on it, among them being your weapon reviews.
Keep up the good work!
Glad you are enjoying the content mate, thanks for the feedback!
Ahh a fellow veteran who keeps up to date with the game despite rarely being able to play (or in my case, I haven't played in years!)
Ever buy a gun in game and think, man I'm just not killing things like I thought I would?
Not with this gun.
This gun kills.
You just have to reload it all the time.
One of my favorite weapons from PS1, so glad to see they added this
And it looks so faithful to the original, VERY cool indeed!
As an NSO main, we didn't really have any options for engineer that involved underbarrel grenades before this thing came out, so I'm just happy I can finally toy around with that type of playstyle
IMO the default underbarrel fits the weapon perfectly, and i kind of wished it was in the review.
The grenade isn't meant for regular spam, just get either the S weapon or even the thumper to shoot 6 of them rapidly.
Where the unberbarrel truely shines is as a finisher, since it has no arming distance, and what feels like a faster switch time, it realy comes in usefull when confirming a kill, just use it when either the CoF gets too big or the small mag runs out.
Really hope the class specific traits of the weapon make their way into more fun toys on the field... Hell even for older weapons! Also hoping to see more variations make it in to crate more unique, different playstyles!
*The Emperor approves of this Review*
I'm glad mate!
@@CAMIKAZE78 The Death Cam, ruined my stealth game in this game, will they remove it? I stopped playing just for that ...
@@brunofernandes3765 git gud
@@brunofernandes3765 You are never meant to be standing in one spot after killing an enemy
I feel like the Punisher + Battle Rifle Secondary might be new meta for Medics. Idk, just a feeling.
Could be a very powerful build to try for sure!
ahahha, it is usless for cm. Cycler TRV will melt people with punisher faster.
@@ДмЮнит Just the Cycler?
Not the Terminus or Tross?
The Republic approves this review
But dont approves mag size :D
@@pavelkolishev9936 I can't use it without ext mags
I grabbed it and started playing around with it today, one thing I'll note is that if you're playing light assault and you have maxed out ammo printer it's a good choice with this one, I find that I'm constantly running it out of ammo and the extra clips can be a life saver, it also extends the number of impulse grenades you get. Other than that I'm with Cami on pretty much every point, lean into CQC and don't over accessorize, this thing is actually pretty great out of the box with just extended mags soft point and the class based underbarrel.
Less punishers were used this weekend than I anticipated
Can you put the NSX Tomoe in your list of weapons to review? The only review of it on RUclips appears to be from before the damage model was revamped. No one really has paid attention to this gun. I just auraxed the Tengu twice (-P and Networked) and your review was valuable to me!
Saved a lib several times by jumping out with safefall and hitting it with one of these bad boys when it was on fire. I would definitely recommend for when you're running air/vehicle crew as the quick bonus HP/rep effect when coupled with other repair inputs can be lifesaving.
this is a really solid weapon for medics and engineers to supplement their healing and repair, and it's a real reliable and hard hitter to boot. a big *but* is that there are still better options in each class, so if you're not using it's supplementary underslung then you might be better in the market for faction specifics like the kindred or the more versatile lmg choices. you can't really go wrong with it for close to mid range engagements, and it'll definitely serve you well, even if the damage drops off sooner than you'd like!
LA's Impulse is the closest thing to remind me of Spinfusor Jumping from Starsiege: Tribes and Tribes 2. The downside is I'm so used to Team Fortress 2's air strafing after such a jump, which doesn't work in this game as strafing while in the air kills your forward speed on Auraxis.
Tribes Ascend was such a masterpiece
I used to use the punisher a lot in Planetside 1 because it was the only weapon in the game that had a secondary underbarrel grenade launcher. I’m glad they decided to bring it to PS2.
Now if only they’d bring back core combat weapons.
Damnit I'm stuck at work. Won't be able to see until I get home. Construction sites are not for videos
One of my favourite parts of the weapon is the default ironsights are great, I hope they do this for future NS weapons.
I've got a question, would spamming the underbarrel attachment as an engineer be able to mass repair a player made base? Would more than 1 instance of it be active like how the repair grenade works when thrown?
Also I can think of some situations where the underbarrel option for the heavy will come into play; 1. When moving as support infantry against an enemy tank column. 2. When as a jockey on a Valkyrie or Harasserer since you can fire while in a vehicle. 3rd one I had in mind was when people MAX crash but that's a 50/50 for me.
Favorite gun in the game!
I was already thinking of setting up a one-size-fits-all ASP medic setup, but this thing? It's practically a gift from gun jesus. I'm thinking secondary obelisk for long range, this thing for short range, HE underbarrel for chokepoints and revive grenades for when a friendly dives in front of the HE.
Could you re-review the Hunter-QCX "crossbow"? The new incendiary bolts are quite interesting and I've recently realized that detector-bolts do enough damage to kill an injured target on headshot.
How injured would be the question, like if they've just been EMPed or with some health stripped already?
@@jeffreyhoon like Crown B point hold shot by multiple sources and one grenade, somehow stayed alive until they got to the router, tried to stay alive by staying cloaked, and I just happened to shoot a dart at his head.
@@Dplusithicus Hmm... might be pistol scaled damage if that's true but can't quite tell
Don’t suppose you can do a javelin review on the NSO faction? Been having a hard time understanding the use of this vehicle for some time now on wether or not if it’s more for Combat with the nest launcher or out maneuvering your opponent
Nice, I'll buy it when I have 1k certs spare
My favorite weapon from PS1 is back! Thanks for the review.
This is a fun little weapon - it's pretty much made from the ground up as a support weapon. I like that the built-in HE grenade is considerably weaker than the S-type rifle UBG launcher as well - enough to do a little AoE damage, but nothing stupid. Setting up a little engie nest with this and spamming repair grenades is an awesome way to earn some certs and help the team!
I LOVE THIS GUN! I finally got a weapon that plays to my playstyle!
Im already in love with the punisher , it feels like all the best parts of the other smg's rolled in to 1 with the added underbarrel shanigans , i do have a question about your crosshair tho , are you using some sort of mod/addon for it , pretty sure mine doesnt light up that bright when targetting a enemy
I believe there's a setting for that as I recall trying it in game once.
You can equip both extend mag and the new under barrel attachment at the same time
I've got a video topic request. I'm re-downloading after a few years away from the game. I left before the base-building features.
For someone new(ish) how does one go from the log-in button, to the battle field, and know what to expect? the flow of battle? etc.
Have you considered doing a quick review of the starter weapons with the large number of new and returning players? Then you can add a section to the end to recommend different weapons to go to after getting the starters to auraxium for similar playstyles, or a completely different playstyle to spice things up
I pretty much only use this weapon for the underbarrel as it gives such amazing mobility that drifter jump jets become a viable way to get around in biolabs without all the downtime you would normally have going up again. combined with the Horizon, it's a mid air slaughterhouse combination and the Punisher can get me out of sticky cqc encounters too.
I love how one of the Vanu you killed was named MURIKAFACKYEAH at 3:58
Which server is this and even I too get connection quality as poor like 150 ms but the server latency will jump all the time do you use anything that helps to reduce the server latency or keeps it constant, thank you
Great review, thanks for the tips
Trying to get exact numbers or even consistent effects on that ACU drove me crazy.
It's insane... But, with the numbers we have to work off it's pretty solid overall.
Can't believe it's been 11 months and I still like this sci-fi p-90 because it's a sci-fi p-90
Something you didn't mention about the he rounds for the underbarrel is that they have no minimum arming distance, so you are doing less damage than other underbarrels, but you can dish out that damage at close range.
Solid weapon review! Your videos have helped me tremendously. Thanks. Word.
Do you think they should add the adaptive under barrel to older guns or should it just limited to new gun?
I've been playing on ps4 on and off for years and just got back into it, can't wait to get my hands on this.
We all have our opinions depending on our playstyle, and I don't think I can blame you to have to disagree with me
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-Within short range Soft Point Ammo gives you too little advantage as it will be easier to hit 4 headshots instead, with or without SPA
-With SPA equipped, 125 damage tier drops at 20 meters, as opposed to High Velocity Ammo, which drops only at 27 meters
-HVA allows you to compete with or even outmatch carbines like AF-19, in terms of raw DPS over range
-(as opposed to SPA) 20% bullet velocity can have it's places when fighting Light Assault or taking targets at other ranges than CQC
-ClassGL is so unique and exclusive - it puts Punisher as the best weapon in the entire game
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Regarding tips and tricks- Have you tried stacking Ambusher jump jets with the ImpulseGL? 50+ meters in one jump! It's so fricking cool, I love it!
Thx I’m using this with An infiltrator on the flash 2 extra emp grenades is bad ass and you can pick up ammo packs.
this one feel like it best to hip fire most of the time considering the bloom of the crosshair is very small plus the grenade launcher that strapped to the gun at the get-go is very niche
so, on 6/20/2020 the engineer's specific grenade was not repairing a friendly NC MAX.
So NS Operatives still don't have access to a normal gun with a standard underbarrel attachment. The NS-66 is a good weapon with interesting underbarrel options, but no smoke and the grenades are nerfed. The Yumi does have the standard underbarrel attachments but the bullet firing is a very niche configuration that most people (including me) cant stand. I guess the wait continues.
Good review of the Punisher though. Very informative. Thanks!
I just wondered, do you speed up your material? I move slower ingame
5:40 Wait.. ALL NS weapons kick to the left, and all faction weapons kick to the right. Right?? Thats always been the case if Im not mistaken
They've really been stepping up their game with the additions they have added, I had to do research on those additional types of hard light barrier they added as well
This gun sounds like the perfect flexible side grade 👌 as much as I still consider nanite systems weapons controversial because they kind of spoiled the uniqueness of each faction (They really should have added vehicle hacking and cross-faction looting maybe) this gun sounds very useful
I want to see s class weapons getting 2 rail options as well. The s class weapons are rarely used and it would help shake up the meta
Thanks. I'm getting the gun now.
"Slightly lower damage than the other underbarrel launchers"
It literally does half the damage. You don't even spawn with enough grenades to kill one player. And let's not forget its complete inability to pierce armor while the S rifles get underbarrel Halberds
This is basically a slightly worse edirani (slower reload, worse recoil) with an UBG. Considering Eridani is pretty damn good the punisher isn't too shabby either.
Haven't finished but the GL under barrel also doesn't shoot right down the middle. Trying to fit it between two objects I actually struggled to get it between as shots would typically shoot to the left or right of the center of the cross hairs.
Is it normal for under barrel GLs to have this?
No, not to my experience. The Punisher's UBGL just seems to fire a little weird.
I found the IRNV underwhelming on a new gun. It is only b/w and not coloured on the newer weapons which I found to be a huge improvement.
Honestly thinking about just unlocking this bad boy just for medic. Under barrel healing grenades is the most NC thing ever.
Seems the polar opposite of NC to me. xD
I mostly waited punisher for it's impulse granades, but in reality they are just to slow to pull. Let me explain.
Carabines have unique querk - they super accurate midair, so there is no way what i would use smg on my light assault. This left only one option - ASP perk for smg as secondaries. And it is just to slow. You need to pull your Punisher, then press gear slot again, wait for switch animation and only then you can use it's underbarel launcher. I wish we could have impulse granades similar to fujin throwing knifes - press G and with short delay you already recieve acceleration. Just one sharp and fast move.
Punisher is just a pocket version of "SPACE ASSHOLE" LA loadout - when you equip maxed Heavy Weight implant and push maxes and snipers from air-resupply pods on any tower-type base, like crown.
My dissapointment is immesurable and my day is ruined.
So basically you wanted to be OP?
Downsize is magazine size *AND* slow reload speed.
Underbarrel aside, the Eridani ( and its empire equivalents ) is a superior weapon
Correction:The default underbarrel grenade does no vehicle damage its intended for anti infantry only,
How would you fix the spown camping issue in ps2? I know its been around for a long time but its one of big resons why new players leave the game.
Redeploy to new base. If the spawn is being camped the fight is over. Move or comeback with valks or gal drops
I really love this weapon so far, but it needs some overwork (especially for the engineer) I would wish for a longer and stronger repair heal.... example: a car or tank drives by crittically damaged, give him a shot of the repair grenade and focus on other things while the vehicle heals 50 or 75% health over time (can be stopped by any kind of damage and if the target is full heal the effect stops even if the timer didn't run out yet)
Right now the repair boost just feels really weak and is almost useless (even with giving the target some extra health, the effect runs out way too fast)
Just my opinion.... else it's a wonderful weapon!
Since NSO don't have S type weapons this seems a good option for my engi
WHYY CAMI WHYY ARE YOU DAMNING YOUR AUSSIE AUDIENCE(jkjk love you, just hate the fact that it premieres at 1:00am)
yeah, going by the poll, it seems, most of the viewers are from europe
@@ilsgrade8357 Yet last stream was at midnight for us :)
It's a tough call to make, the majority of the audience here come from the US and EU so I have some serious timezone troubles on my hands XD
The video footage for the engineer specific class underbarrel was very underwhelming
Yeah that was a small editting error on my behalf that I didn't pick up on, I was writing down the numbers we gathered from the testing and thought I had cut the video differently. Something to learn from :)
@@CAMIKAZE78 It was the thing I was most interested on ಥ_ಥ since I'm on PS4 and I can't test it myself, but one day I shall. Keep up the good work ᕦ⊙෴⊙ᕤ
I mean you could run punisher/jackhammer on HA.
I've seen players using the repair launcher to fix broken shield generators or ICU from safe distances.
In my opinion. We need more guns. And those rare ones need to be more available. And to Aruax should be lowered to 500/600 kills. To a new player 1,160 through 5 guns is a shit ton. But more unique guns would be nice
Yeah, working on Auraxxing my LMGs but that's gonna take awhile since I don't usually main HA
Aurax weapons aren't meant for noobs. Also the rare weapons aren't a drop anymore, you get them at the Sanctuary.
@@Droid15243Z I'm ps4 bro. They don't even care about us anymore. No matter how large we get or how much money we spend. I just want the Black Camo. Shit makes me sad. Like I spend money and time in a game and it barley rewards me.
It's a pretty good gun as I got mine to Auraxium in like 23 hours. Would have been quicker If I didn't have other stuff to do. It's a very interesting gun though.
I can see a nerf coming for it though as the anti repair nades are a bit broken if used well. See an annoying Max with 20 engie on it? Anti repair nade it and watch it die from lack of heals. See that annoying shield sundy getting repaired? Spam anti repair nades and watch it die quickly due to lack of repairs. You also got the impulse nades for the LA. Let's be honest the LA is a pretty unbalanced class already. I found myself getting a lot more kills due to the impulse nade allowing me to go to places far more quickly than normal. It's a very fun nade to use but mixed with the already unbalanced LA it's pretty crazy. Not to mention for VS anyway it's better than all of our smgs which is a bit depressing.
Use it as Engineer and Medic, when you just need one to defend yourself but also at a distance
The Light Assault's impulse payload is a bit Tribes'ish, minus hurting yourself.
Are they getting ideas from Tribes? Because I can see that working. Lol. Tribes has good weapons.
Tried playing the game, sadly I'm terrible so I uninstalled it.
Every single time I watch your videos I wonder... Where do you find people who stay (relatively) still and not spazz around, spamming the crouch key and jumping everywhere?
i cant remember, is there ASP smg as 2ndary for Heavies??
No. Just for LAs. HA has Heavy Weapon Secondary.
If more weapons had iron sights like Titanfalls I wouldn't use any alternative sights lol.
Umm... how do I use the underbarrel? I think I'm doing something wrong...
Oh wait you press the number 1 key again for primary to switch to the underbarrel... damnit.
Added in the best of
I swear to god the reticle of my Punisher WITH the laser sight doesn't look as accurate as his does without it. I watch him hipfiring while moving and have no idea HOW the crosshairs are that small.
Keep in mind that he's running at 110 FOV. That probably makes the crosshairs seem tighter.
man i s*wish the MAX got a cool tool like the Punisher... but yeah, this gun changes a LOT how MAX play: engie punishers can take a MAX from 2000 health to 2500, great for pushes, while the Heavy assault's punisher makes sure the MAX can fall out of a 1shot, no matter how many engineers it has.. only thing that relaly annoys me with the Havoc is that a single one can eat half of a self-repair's duration, without the MAX really being able to do much about it
I feel like this weapon needs an magazine size increase. It has a high rate of fire so it should have a base amount of 30 with 40 of the extended mag. I find it underwhelming considering the amount of bullets to kill which will make you reload often. Some SMGs like the VE series has 40 Magazine capacity with a slower firerate. This doesn't make sense to me. Why would higher capacity guns have slower firerates compared to the faster firing ones!?
It's not because of balance in mind. Some guns have more rounds in them and fire slower, just so that you can increase the duration of hurt being delivered.
Something like supression fire. It's not to increase killing potential, it is to increase the time where the door for example is under fire, longer than you would be able to do with other guns.
If this gun had a special compensator that reduces horizontal recoil, it will be perfect.
Annnnnnnnnnnnd I had it auraxed within a month without even trying to use it.
Can't touch NS-7 ever again(recoil-wise this one has more vertical recoil but horizontal is comparable, and this thing hits way harder at close range).
The Death Cam, ruined my stealth game in this game, will they remove it? I stopped playing just for that ...
There isn't any plans to remove it at this stage as far as I am aware mate, but there are certainly ways to get around it! You just can't sit in one spot for a long period of time now.
Stealth campers are scum! Go ahead and camp so I can return the favor after revival
You could move after a kill, wait till they respawn so they think you haven't moved and ambush them, etc.
Man it must be scary to play a fps and not be invisible 100% of the time. I know it's awkward what you are going through and you feel shy sometimes but try to get outside of that cloak and get some sun bud.
Games like these are SUPPOSED to have a kill cam.
Ah yes, LA with _force push_
Eclipse + NS-66 is the best setup on LA. NS-66 as a main weapon is pretty lacking compared to other SMG's.
17.28
*falls off chair* wait, what?!
This gun is actually really good. I've been using it for weeks now its definitely worth the 1000certs.
The under barrel for the light assault is more of a joke attachment than a useful combat attachment. I don't see how this will replace my horizon
How much does it cost
It should be a 12 shot kill @75m+ (4:25).
so jackal or punisher? :D
Obviously the punisher. Dont waste tour time with the jackal
Gonna bring this again. I have small gripe about your TTK numbers, PS2 uses weapons with bullet velocity, and your numbers use formula that doesn't add bullet travel time to TTK. The proper formula for any distance shots would be "TTK = ((Shots To Kill-1))*Rate Of Fire/60) + (Distance/Velocity)", you can recheck it in calculators like this - protovision.github.io/ttk-calc .
Thats why it's called theoretical time to kill, and in his reviews Cami mentions that he doesn't count in bullet velocity
@@MadMarco All TTK numbers are theoretical, but counting in bullet velocity is important because it's about 0.2s difference for weapons like SMG for long range shots, it adds a lot.
I use this gun to repair ally aircrafts and things I don't want to get to close to.
This gun feels a little too strong the way it is. I couldn't outgun it (even at 20 meters) and even with getting headshots. In a 1 on 1 fight I just couldn't do it, and it only seemed to be the Punisher, every other gun I could keep up with, idk.
I wouldn't really call it OP at this stage as it shares the same damage model as the VX-9 Terminus for the VS, and the T9A-Butcher for the TR. It is lacking in uptime too, which is how it keeps itself in check from being OP I think.
@@CAMIKAZE78 not OP at all, just a humble Auraxian's opinion. Looking forward to more quarter master's reviews btw!
i only need 2 day to max auraxium this baby while i need at least 1 week for other gun
for all other soldier wonder is this gun worth it. 10 out of 10 worst it
how is it üpossible to make 1160 kills in 2 days ????????
@@eduardb.7781 easy, 700 kill in first day, not just me atleast 4 guys max auraxium same time with me
@@eduardb.7781 KammyNS auraxed this one in 4-5 hours. You can probably find this robot rampaging across Emerald all the time