Two excellent knives that in my opinion boil down to taste. They both will get the job done for all us arm chair woodsmen. And will be just fine for the apocalypse too!
Thanx for the review! I own more Bark Rivers than lt wright knives. I do like both companies, but Im starting to maybe, just maybe lean toward Lt Wright, at the moment. Have had some QC issues with BRK, and sold recently few away. But love their knives nevertheless, and f.e. my Bravo 1.25 is one of my favorite knives. Just love the Blade! With my oldest BRK knife, Gunny Scandi in 3v I have almost a special bond, LOL. 8 years of heavy use, with zero issues. ( Has also the best fit&finish). I recently bought the GNS scandi 01. What a nice knife! Such a pleasure to make fires etc. Becoming my go to bushcrafter. Probably quite similar to Genesis scandi. Cheers from a fellow, outdoor/knife enthusiast youtuber from a village of Fiskars!
Like the video sir and love both the Genesis and Bravo! Definitely some confusion and miss information going on brother. I own multiples of both the Genesis and Bravo models and dozens of other LT’s and Bark River models. Both are great companies but for me LT takes the cake with their consistent quality control. First off, LT has unfortunately caught up to BR in the price category in a lot of cases. I have multiple LT MagnaCut and 3V regular Dessert Ironwood Genesis blades that were more expensive than my BR Dessert Ironwood Burl Bravo’s. The price for the LT’s keep creeping up too but the BR blades have stayed pretty consistent. LT does have some more economical smaller blades in pain micarta. Both models come in A2 and both come in Magnacut. The Bravo’s most popular steel options are A2, 3V, CRUWARE and now Magnacut. The Genesis comes in A2, O1, AEB-L, 3V and MagnaCut. The Bravo is only offered in convex grind with the grind height, spear point and ramp options and of course the different models and lengths. The Genesis is offered in scandi, saber, flat and convex, they sometimes offer them with a swedge too. The Genesis also is offered in different lengths models. You are correct in the fact that Bark River has more handle and pin options standard but LT does offer some awesome custom one offs during their special events throughout the year. If you’re a Pouthouse member you have the opportunity to score some cool unique blades too. If ordered through LT’s website, I believe thats the only opportunity to order the Genesis without the sheath but anywhere else it comes with the leather JRE industries dangler sheath. I agree that the JRE sheath is a far superior and I have purchased a few of them for my Bravos. LT also offers the option to order some nice in house kydex sheaths too. Again, I’m a big fan of both makers and own over 60 blades between the two brands and many more have passed through my hands. If the steel option is your only deciding factor like is implied in your video then LT has you covered also. Lots of other great models from both brands worth checking out too! LT is just a more accessible company especially if you’re a Pouthouse member and they absolutely care about what they produce. I’ve never had a problem with any of the blades I’ve bought from them and if I ever do I know I can easily contact them directly and get it figured out quick. Bark River on the other hand, is a different story. I’ve had MULTIPLE issues for miss matched plunge lines and uneven grinds in general to crazy miss shaped handles on my Ironwood and elk handles. My latest issues were two different preorders that I waited months for, had to be refused because of mismatched sized hollow pins. They have some terrible quality control issues and definitely come across as “quantity not quality”, unfortunately! Anyway good video and sorry for the long comment!
Wow! Thank you thank you so much for the info! Going to have to read this three times to make sure I get it all. Is Pouthouse a email list? Where do I find out more?
@@sharpends4279 😂 I definitely wrote a novel! The Pouthouse is LT forum “club” that can be joined on the LT Wright website for a annual fee. I believe it’s still $25 and it gives you access to a ton of topics, a barter house for buying/selling/trading. You also have the opportunity for join two weekly raffles for the chance to purchase blades. Membership enters your for monthly and a yearly knife giveaway and you get access to “Pouthouse only” knives to purchase during their yearly events. Pretty sweet if you’re a LT fan!Hope this helps, cheers.
I would put my older bark river knives up against anyone at any price range. Recent bark river no so much. They need to get things back on track. I would like to see them make a video admitting to the issues and showing how the are being corrected before I ever buy another bark river knife. My recent preorder knife was terrible from BR.
I live in a highly humid and/or wet environment. While I like tool steels I only like using them a few summer months a year. I’ve been collecting both BR & LT’s knives for years. Since the end of 2019 I saw BR’s quality drop and LT’s availability disappear which are both slowly coming back. Quality would definitely go to LT. Availability, materials and designs choices I would give to BR. All manufacturers are having issues with Magnacut. In comparison over the years I’ve ended up using and preferring more BR’s while my LT’s have kinda turned into collector knives. I’ve also grown to prefer Convex blades to Scandi in most cases.
Though I do have BR Aurora and LT GNS, both are factory 3V convexed blades. In this case the BR is the nicer knife but I still can’t makeup my mind as to which one I prefer...lol
Very humid where I live in the summer month. I solve this with flitz polish. I then use flitz knife wax and then finish with the ceramic sealer. No pitting or rust issues since
I have a lot of both brands. I have more of the BRK's, but that's more due to the handle options as well as their big knife selection, but I absolutely love LT Wright knives for more bushcraft type use. Their scandi grinds and sharp spines are a dream to use for any wood working chores, but the convex edges of BRK are better for food prep or as hunting knives to process fish or game animals.
It's stain resistant and it has some good qualities in that area. But if the finish isn't done well, I've seen it patina and rust. However, if it's finished really well and taken care of, it will be mostly stainless.
@@sharpends4279 also price is wrong : brk bravo 1,25 lt 3v for 200 it's also cheaper than L.T. you just need to know where and when to buy. I pay for all my brk less than 200, (only bravo 1.5 in 3v was 219) still cheaper than L.T.
Hi. Comparing a scandi to a convex grind in my view can’t be done, both grinds are designed for different uses, right? Still a great overview of the different handles. See ya
The way that I compare them was about how they have certain uses that are better in one knife rather than the other. So in that way I do think they can be compared. Thank you for the comment!
That's a aurd. They are both made to cut and have been used as all around grinds for MANy years. Scandinavia has been using a high scandi grind for hunting/fishing etc forever.
@@scrick7112 ok? Why then is a scandi not a good choice for a anything saber is? It's literally the same grind with just a smaller secondary or no secondary.
Esthetically I'd have to go with the LT. Especially an LT in a magnacut flat grind. Even if they were the same price I'd lean LT. Think I'm just biased though, the high polish and bling of the BR's with some of their fancy handles take them down a notch or two for me. I do have some fancies but I tend towards the more classic, utilitarian knives.
LT Wright make Genesis model in A2, 3V, Elmax, AEB-L, Magna-Cut/Handle: Micarta, G10, Desert Ironwood/pins: stainless, brass/Grind:scandi, full flat grind
@@1800moonSugar I am just learning! but having made this video so much was explained to me and I am not a member of the Pouthouse where I am learning even more! I should probably pull down this video and make a new one. But maybe not! Thanks for the comment
I have both and completely disagreed with your preferences re. batoning and feather sticking. I do however 100% agree about the sheaths. I was lucky enough to get most of my Barkies prior to the gross generic sheath…
Both BR and LT knives start with the so called 90 degree spines. LT Wright does one final grind to the spine that creates a large burr that people perceive as sharper. It’s easily damaged and equally easy to recreate on most any knife...hence “It’s Not a real 90 degree spine”...
Seems to me that they've buffed the BRK spine just a little bit. They still throw a spark but not nearly as big as LTW. I've never thought of it as a burr they've created but it makes sense. I haven't noticed damage to the spine once used for batoning or sparks but I'll give it more time to test. Thanks for the comment, I really enjoy your feedback.
I think LT Wright has a better heat treat. I also think magna cut is a poor choice for a " survival knife." It's very brittle and prone to chipping. Bark River's heat treatment has been scrutinized lately from what I've been hearing. I've seen a BRKT bushcrafter scout break in magnacut. Batoning a small piece of wood. I will be staying away from magnacut knives of all makers. In my opinion its a poor choice. I think there are better choices in stainless that can be used. I would also choose A2 or cpm3v over magnacut all day everyday. I think the genesis in A2 is a much better choice for a survival knife with toughness you can depend on. Magna cut in ny opionion for performance and price is just not worth it. Bravo 1 in A2 would be my choice. A2 bravo 1 is 169.00 today at DLT trading. Thats a bargain.
Both LT and BR use the same heat treatment facility. And all manufacturers including Crucible Industries are having issues with Magnacut. It’s proven to be a great steel, we just need manufacturers to adjust to it’s requirements.
@dlrmon1 do you think it's right selling people knives that are flawed or improperly heat treated for an arm and a leg. That's disgusting to do to customers. I'll never buy magna junk ever again. Even if it's heat treated correctly to the " correct " Rockwell. My BRKT did the same thing. Snapped like a piece of junk. A2 ; CPM-3V ; 01; 20CV are just fine. You can't sell a knife for the crazy money maker's are asking if you know there is a problem. It disgusts me.
Two excellent knives that in my opinion boil down to taste. They both will get the job done for all us arm chair woodsmen. And will be just fine for the apocalypse too!
Thanx for the review! I own more Bark Rivers than lt wright knives. I do like both companies, but Im starting to maybe, just maybe lean toward Lt Wright, at the moment.
Have had some QC issues with BRK, and sold recently few away. But love their knives nevertheless, and f.e. my Bravo 1.25 is one of my favorite knives. Just love the Blade!
With my oldest BRK knife, Gunny Scandi in 3v I have almost a special bond, LOL. 8 years of heavy use, with zero issues. ( Has also the best fit&finish).
I recently bought the GNS scandi 01. What a nice knife! Such a pleasure to make fires etc. Becoming my go to bushcrafter.
Probably quite similar to Genesis scandi.
Cheers from a fellow, outdoor/knife enthusiast youtuber from a village of Fiskars!
Thanks for the comment and I'm going to sub to your channel!
Subbed also, thanx!@@sharpends4279
@@sharpends4279 subbed also, thanx!
Both are winners!!
I have an LTWK & want a Bark River. Looking at Bark River “Survivor 3”!
Thanks for this nice comparison. 👊
Like the video sir and love both the Genesis and Bravo!
Definitely some confusion and miss information going on brother.
I own multiples of both the Genesis and Bravo models and dozens of other LT’s and Bark River models. Both are great companies but for me LT takes the cake with their consistent quality control.
First off, LT has unfortunately caught up to BR in the price category in a lot of cases. I have multiple LT MagnaCut and 3V regular Dessert Ironwood Genesis blades that were more expensive than my BR Dessert Ironwood Burl Bravo’s. The price for the LT’s keep creeping up too but the BR blades have stayed pretty consistent. LT does have some more economical smaller blades in pain micarta.
Both models come in A2 and both come in Magnacut. The Bravo’s most popular steel options are A2, 3V, CRUWARE and now Magnacut. The Genesis comes in A2, O1, AEB-L, 3V and MagnaCut. The Bravo is only offered in convex grind with the grind height, spear point and ramp options and of course the different models and lengths. The Genesis is offered in scandi, saber, flat and convex, they sometimes offer them with a swedge too. The Genesis also is offered in different lengths models.
You are correct in the fact that Bark River has more handle and pin options standard but LT does offer some awesome custom one offs during their special events throughout the year. If you’re a Pouthouse member you have the opportunity to score some cool unique blades too.
If ordered through LT’s website, I believe thats the only opportunity to order the Genesis without the sheath but anywhere else it comes with the leather JRE industries dangler sheath. I agree that the JRE sheath is a far superior and I have purchased a few of them for my Bravos. LT also offers the option to order some nice in house kydex sheaths too.
Again, I’m a big fan of both makers and own over 60 blades between the two brands and many more have passed through my hands. If the steel option is your only deciding factor like is implied in your video then LT has you covered also. Lots of other great models from both brands worth checking out too!
LT is just a more accessible company especially if you’re a Pouthouse member and they absolutely care about what they produce. I’ve never had a problem with any of the blades I’ve bought from them and if I ever do I know I can easily contact them directly and get it figured out quick.
Bark River on the other hand, is a different story. I’ve had MULTIPLE issues for miss matched plunge lines and uneven grinds in general to crazy miss shaped handles on my Ironwood and elk handles. My latest issues were two different preorders that I waited months for, had to be refused because of mismatched sized hollow pins. They have some terrible quality control issues and definitely come across as “quantity not quality”, unfortunately!
Anyway good video and sorry for the long comment!
Wow! Thank you thank you so much for the info! Going to have to read this three times to make sure I get it all. Is Pouthouse a email list? Where do I find out more?
@@sharpends4279
😂 I definitely wrote a novel!
The Pouthouse is LT forum “club” that can be joined on the LT Wright website for a annual fee. I believe it’s still $25 and it gives you access to a ton of topics, a barter house for buying/selling/trading. You also have the opportunity for join two weekly raffles for the chance to purchase blades. Membership enters your for monthly and a yearly knife giveaway and you get access to “Pouthouse only” knives to purchase during their yearly events.
Pretty sweet if you’re a LT fan!Hope this helps, cheers.
Well said...
I would put my older bark river knives up against anyone at any price range. Recent bark river no so much. They need to get things back on track. I would like to see them make a video admitting to the issues and showing how the are being corrected before I ever buy another bark river knife. My recent preorder knife was terrible from BR.
I live in a highly humid and/or wet environment. While I like tool steels I only like using them a few summer months a year. I’ve been collecting both BR & LT’s knives for years. Since the end of 2019 I saw BR’s quality drop and LT’s availability disappear which are both slowly coming back. Quality would definitely go to LT. Availability, materials and designs choices I would give to BR. All manufacturers are having issues with Magnacut. In comparison over the years I’ve ended up using and preferring more BR’s while my LT’s have kinda turned into collector knives. I’ve also grown to prefer Convex blades to Scandi in most cases.
Though I do have BR Aurora and LT GNS, both are factory 3V convexed blades. In this case the BR is the nicer knife but I still can’t makeup my mind as to which one I prefer...lol
Very humid where I live in the summer month. I solve this with flitz polish. I then use flitz knife wax and then finish with the ceramic sealer. No pitting or rust issues since
I have a lot of both brands. I have more of the BRK's, but that's more due to the handle options as well as their big knife selection, but I absolutely love LT Wright knives for more bushcraft type use. Their scandi grinds and sharp spines are a dream to use for any wood working chores, but the convex edges of BRK are better for food prep or as hunting knives to process fish or game animals.
Totally agree
Totally agree
Within the last few months I picked these two up, and I absolutely love them. I'm surprised that you find the Genesis batons better for you.
Really? I have always found that scandi's do better. Convex is no slouch either and they are really close in performance.
@@sharpends4279 I mainly say that because of how thin the edge is on a scandi. I guess it works as a wedge though.
magna-cut not stainles?
It's stain resistant and it has some good qualities in that area. But if the finish isn't done well, I've seen it patina and rust. However, if it's finished really well and taken care of, it will be mostly stainless.
@@sharpends4279 also price is wrong : brk bravo 1,25 lt 3v for 200 it's also cheaper than L.T. you just need to know where and when to buy. I pay for all my brk less than 200, (only bravo 1.5 in 3v was 219) still cheaper than L.T.
I hated the BRK sheath as well until I bought a dangler for it.
Maybe the regular bravo 1 is a better battoner because of the thickness
Hi. Comparing a scandi to a convex grind in my view can’t be done, both grinds are designed for different uses, right? Still a great overview of the different handles. See ya
The way that I compare them was about how they have certain uses that are better in one knife rather than the other. So in that way I do think they can be compared. Thank you for the comment!
@@sharpends4279 ok, great point. I guess I didn’t get it. Thx
That's a aurd. They are both made to cut and have been used as all around grinds for MANy years. Scandinavia has been using a high scandi grind for hunting/fishing etc forever.
@@1800moonSugar every one has a right to there opinion.
@@scrick7112 ok? Why then is a scandi not a good choice for a anything saber is? It's literally the same grind with just a smaller secondary or no secondary.
I have genesis and bravo in A2 both excellent knives. I also have a white river ursus in s35vn and love that very much. Im a big fan of s35vn steel.
Esthetically I'd have to go with the LT. Especially an LT in a magnacut flat grind. Even if they were the same price I'd lean LT. Think I'm just biased though, the high polish and bling of the BR's with some of their fancy handles take them down a notch or two for me. I do have some fancies but I tend towards the more classic, utilitarian knives.
LT Wright make Genesis model in A2, 3V, Elmax, AEB-L, Magna-Cut/Handle: Micarta, G10, Desert Ironwood/pins: stainless, brass/Grind:scandi, full flat grind
Thank you!
@@1800moonSugar I am just learning! but having made this video so much was explained to me and I am not a member of the Pouthouse where I am learning even more! I should probably pull down this video and make a new one. But maybe not! Thanks for the comment
I have both and completely disagreed with your preferences re. batoning and feather sticking. I do however 100% agree about the sheaths. I was lucky enough to get most of my Barkies prior to the gross generic sheath…
Both BR and LT knives start with the so called 90 degree spines. LT Wright does one final grind to the spine that creates a large burr that people perceive as sharper. It’s easily damaged and equally easy to recreate on most any knife...hence “It’s Not a real 90 degree spine”...
Seems to me that they've buffed the BRK spine just a little bit. They still throw a spark but not nearly as big as LTW. I've never thought of it as a burr they've created but it makes sense. I haven't noticed damage to the spine once used for batoning or sparks but I'll give it more time to test. Thanks for the comment, I really enjoy your feedback.
I don't buy knives from Mike Stewrat.
Why
I think LT Wright has a better heat treat. I also think magna cut is a poor choice for a " survival knife." It's very brittle and prone to chipping. Bark River's heat treatment has been scrutinized lately from what I've been hearing. I've seen a BRKT bushcrafter scout break in magnacut. Batoning a small piece of wood. I will be staying away from magnacut knives of all makers. In my opinion its a poor choice. I think there are better choices in stainless that can be used. I would also choose A2 or cpm3v over magnacut all day everyday. I think the genesis in A2 is a much better choice for a survival knife with toughness you can depend on. Magna cut in ny opionion for performance and price is just not worth it. Bravo 1 in A2 would be my choice. A2 bravo 1 is 169.00 today at DLT trading. Thats a bargain.
Both LT and BR use the same heat treatment facility. And all manufacturers including Crucible Industries are having issues with Magnacut. It’s proven to be a great steel, we just need manufacturers to adjust to it’s requirements.
@dlrmon1 do you think it's right selling people knives that are flawed or improperly heat treated for an arm and a leg. That's disgusting to do to customers. I'll never buy magna junk ever again. Even if it's heat treated correctly to the " correct " Rockwell. My BRKT did the same thing. Snapped like a piece of junk. A2 ; CPM-3V ; 01; 20CV are just fine. You can't sell a knife for the crazy money maker's are asking if you know there is a problem. It disgusts me.