Toyota's New MANUAL Is INSANE!

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  • Опубликовано: 16 дек 2024
  • Today I show the cool features on the manual transmission in the 2023 Toyota Corolla!
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Комментарии • 9 тыс.

  • @BenHardyCars
    @BenHardyCars  Год назад +355

    Full Review: ruclips.net/video/9347SdBwJnI/видео.html

    • @delanorrosey4730
      @delanorrosey4730 Год назад +1

      Tasty for a Corolla!

    • @tonypate9174
      @tonypate9174 Год назад +1

      What next for Ben ? Eating with a knife and fork ....without self harming ? Get a grip dude not it's not a dark art like front brake on a moto-sickle whatever one them may be..wonder if a wee hint of GINGER at work as the Dad o cat voice is on point

    • @nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489
      @nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 Год назад +2

      I'd rather watch something actually insane, like people getting shot. I can appreciate the fervor. It is not that special. This was already like watching a lame horse walk.

    • @TOYODAxTRONICofficial
      @TOYODAxTRONICofficial Год назад

      Wow and thank you too much for this bro🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

    • @protipskiptoendofvideoandr286
      @protipskiptoendofvideoandr286 Год назад

      It's called a hill brake

  • @corglass
    @corglass Год назад +21938

    If you downshift at 70mph from 6th to 3rd my old Toyota Carina would autorev to the redline ❤

    • @redcrafterlppa303
      @redcrafterlppa303 Год назад +2136

      Automatic money shift 💀💸

    • @Weeblicker
      @Weeblicker Год назад +1506

      And then it auto parks too

    • @corglass
      @corglass Год назад +914

      @@Weeblicker yes, into the ditch

    • @cujbaion1
      @cujbaion1 Год назад +109

      Useful feature for project cars intended for drift to start it. :-)

    • @Deschain-um7jz
      @Deschain-um7jz Год назад +112

      This car will do the same thing. 90mph in 3rd gear is about 6600 RPM and red line is 6800.

  • @Aboygingey
    @Aboygingey Год назад +6492

    Everyone is bashing how it makes it unfun, and too easy?
    Like cmon, we're losing people that want to drive stick. Idc what the car can do as long as there's clutch im driving it.
    Newer manual transmission cars are a rarity, and this can help give manuals a little boost!
    EDIT: There's a fair bit of you that can't understand that manual cars are going extinct. It shifts, it has gears, it's new, it's a manual in my book idc about the damn extras

    • @SaveThePurpleRhino
      @SaveThePurpleRhino Год назад +175

      Yeah. If they want fun, buy a miata. This is for those who like/need manual, but too spooked by it.

    • @randomstuffplusone7223
      @randomstuffplusone7223 Год назад +19

      Hell yeah!!!

    • @fizzinsoda
      @fizzinsoda Год назад +29

      true, but I'm all for automagic

    • @JeanCarlosDHernandez
      @JeanCarlosDHernandez Год назад +5

      Agree!

    • @jkengine02
      @jkengine02 Год назад +46

      Youre right i was a negative nancy but hopefully this shenigans will keep manuals a little longer

  • @neb4587
    @neb4587 Год назад +8000

    Bro just described features 95% of new manuals have as insane

    • @daveswietlik6291
      @daveswietlik6291 Год назад +137

      Bro driving manual with those shoes he needs the help lol.
      Ive only ever owned manuals since my first car 11 years ago. When I finally got a new job where I had to wear shoes like that I found out what a PITA it was to work the clutch on my MS3 with dress shoes on.

    • @badgermetal
      @badgermetal Год назад +73

      ​@@daveswietlik6291 i have the same issue with work boots so i change into shoes for driving as soon as i clock out. Makes the drive home so much more comfortable.

    • @brickson98m
      @brickson98m Год назад +133

      Fr. Guess dude hasn’t seen a manual car in the last 5-10 years

    • @sportscarmusic8353
      @sportscarmusic8353 Год назад +1

      U r right

    • @Sir_Austin_T_Gee
      @Sir_Austin_T_Gee Год назад +94

      I think they’re insane-- insanely useless. People who actually know how to drive manuals don’t need these features.

  • @srtmetal7647
    @srtmetal7647 7 месяцев назад +38

    Let's give Toyota a moment of respect for offering a manual. Even dodge sold their souls not offering a manual option anymore.

    • @Bobspineable
      @Bobspineable 4 месяца назад

      When you have an insane amount of horsepower then a manual doesn’t make sense. Better have those for the lower HP vehicles where one mistake doesn’t blow up the transmission.

    • @srtmetal7647
      @srtmetal7647 4 месяца назад

      @Bobspineable Make that make sense. You think high horsepower cannot be done in a manual? 😄

    • @dilloncordial3190
      @dilloncordial3190 3 месяца назад

      @@srtmetal7647he isn’t saying it can’t be done but it definitely is way easier to blow your transmission up when you’re at 6000 RPMs and you accidentally miss a gear and down shift instead of up shifting.

    • @srtmetal7647
      @srtmetal7647 3 месяца назад

      @dilloncordial3190 I've heard this argument. Only people that are unaware how a manual works say this. You auto guys are out here thinking us manual guys are just breaking into the wrong gear blowing engines.

    • @clozedcaskets1438
      @clozedcaskets1438 3 месяца назад

      As a severely gutted Mazda drift car driver I think the roll back feature deserves to have your man card removed indefinitely. Lol 😂 what losers need that just buy a auto if you suck ass

  • @Baliktusz
    @Baliktusz Год назад +1795

    Autohold is such incredible new tech, my 2006 Subaru came with it as default.

    • @edd2184
      @edd2184 Год назад +76

      I was just about to comment this, yes Subaru has had "Hill Assist" since I can remember

    • @B.V.Luminous
      @B.V.Luminous Год назад

      They ruined cars for everyone else because a VERY TINY FEW PEOPLE can't fucking drive.
      Thanks, 'Democracy'

    • @CMLVI
      @CMLVI Год назад +24

      My 2018 Civic had it as well. "Insane" lol

    • @JettRhoads
      @JettRhoads Год назад +19

      My 03 forester has it as well lol

    • @nicolaimadsen
      @nicolaimadsen Год назад +4

      Well its also "standard" in the Aygo Mk2 from 2014. But somehow heated seats isnt. Toyota is indeed a strange company

  • @CrimsonSlug
    @CrimsonSlug Год назад +1222

    Toyota has had a hold function since the 80's. My 1980 Celica has a break that I can pull up with my hand that stops the car rolling backwards. Amazing how advanced it is.

    • @haidenthomas6002
      @haidenthomas6002 Год назад +46

      That got a good chuckle from me

    • @dillonkoch72
      @dillonkoch72 Год назад +5

      Wow my 92 5 speed 4runner didn't have any of these features.

    • @Theweouthereforrealclub-
      @Theweouthereforrealclub- Год назад +29

      Mine has a pedal that can rev match downshift too, crazy stuff man

    • @sumguy4130
      @sumguy4130 Год назад +2

      that function is exclusive to sedans / coupes my toyota suv / pickup never had that wish i did cause steep hills are scary

    • @Paddlefoot
      @Paddlefoot Год назад

      My 95 tacoma has a handbrake @@sumguy4130

  • @daveyjones8969
    @daveyjones8969 Год назад +993

    My dad always taught me that if you learn something, like driving stick, in a car that's a piece of crap, you'll be brilliant at it when you try a new car lol.

    • @towcat
      @towcat Год назад +39

      Learned to drive in a car where the bite point changes and then spent a few years working st an auction and on dealerships. Can shift anything now

    • @fireblow44
      @fireblow44 Год назад +2

      ​@@towcatthat's awesome

    • @towcat
      @towcat Год назад +7

      No better practice then practice on something that sux

    • @quinnmarchese6313
      @quinnmarchese6313 Год назад +5

      not wrong at all, lol, i first learned in high school in my friend's Mini, that thing's bite point was so unforgiving that when i transitioned into my brother's GTI for a bit (i had a bigger car that he needed for touring with a band) it was easy as heck. my current Kia Forte is manual and is comfortable, but not quite as nice as that GTI

    • @GoofysBandit
      @GoofysBandit Год назад +11

      Newer manuals are so incredibly easy to drive that some of them are literally impossible to stall. Any of the 10th gen Civic manual transmissions, you can literally just drop the clutch with no throttle and it will pick up and start rolling like nothing happened.

  • @Shakeel_._Ahmed
    @Shakeel_._Ahmed 9 месяцев назад +333

    As a Brit, the fact these features exist or need to exist, blows my mind. It's not that difficult.

    • @cmdc778
      @cmdc778 8 месяцев назад +15

      As an American who has been daily driving manuals for years, I agree. My old Civic SI had an indicator light by the tachometer that would flash at suggested upshift points; I eventually just learned to block it out. The car I have now displays what gear you are in on the instrument panel……though I admit that has actually been helpful a couple of times.

    • @shiftystylin
      @shiftystylin 8 месяцев назад +3

      Came here to say this...

    • @Mr.manly.man123
      @Mr.manly.man123 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@shiftystylin same

    • @nikkoshodo
      @nikkoshodo 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@cmdc778 dammn what car you have now? anyway yea i agree that gear display on the tachometer is nice, especially for manual beginners

    • @cmdc778
      @cmdc778 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@nikkoshodo It’s a 2021 WRX. You can actually turn the gear indicator off, but it grew on me. I don’t often really need it, but a situation arises here or there when I forget what gear I am in for one reason or another. It is nice not having to take my eyes off the road for a
      second to look at the shifter, etc.

  • @frederickspeller8117
    @frederickspeller8117 Год назад +3040

    "ThIs TrAnSmIsSiOn Is InSaNe"
    Those are features that have been in manual transmission for years now.

    • @bldontmatter5319
      @bldontmatter5319 Год назад +114

      This guy is a joke. He said granny low in the new bronco is insane but that was literally a feature on the old bronco

    • @trustyoldiron5416
      @trustyoldiron5416 Год назад +38

      It's a cool feature that's been around for a long time. Subaru's in the 80s had it. But I don't think that takes away the fact Toyota still offers a proper manual today.

    • @AttackOfTheZ0mbies
      @AttackOfTheZ0mbies Год назад +14

      Drive 15 manuals a day, and never seen these in any modern car.

    • @sk8s4aliving
      @sk8s4aliving Год назад +37

      ​@@AttackOfTheZ0mbies in other cars its called hill start assist (can be found in 2013 focus being the earliest I know of) and auto rev matching first I've heard of was in the C7 corvettes

    • @Death_Vail666
      @Death_Vail666 Год назад +6

      ​@@sk8s4aliving you can use the e break just put the e break on until your foot in on the gas then release once you're about to go. Iv used it on a hill before and it keeps you from rolling after trying to press the gas fast enough after releasing the break pedal.

  • @akfortyfo7024
    @akfortyfo7024 Год назад +1764

    This must be Ben’s first modern manual transmission.

    • @formulafish1536
      @formulafish1536 Год назад +85

      Exactly what I was thinking. Auto hold has been a thing for a little while now…

    • @Duke_of_Prunes
      @Duke_of_Prunes Год назад +12

      ​@@formulafish1536My 2017 Mazda 6 has the feature automatically.

    • @seblownds9888
      @seblownds9888 Год назад +15

      ​@@Duke_of_Prunesmy 2012 ford focus has it

    • @Duke_of_Prunes
      @Duke_of_Prunes Год назад

      @@seblownds9888 Cool! I have only drive a Focus with an automatic.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 Год назад +11

      Basically any car with electronic handbrake has autohold...

  • @narwahlssb
    @narwahlssb Год назад +299

    If they left cars with a standard hand brake you wouldnt have that awkward roll back when you release the clutch either.

    • @mySeaPrince_
      @mySeaPrince_ Год назад +2

      No handbrake 🤯

    • @yohansharp3040
      @yohansharp3040 Год назад +5

      You know most cars with a standard hand brake have an auto hold right ?

    • @Ozark-nq9uu
      @Ozark-nq9uu Год назад +22

      You don't need that either. It's called a friction point.

    • @Wishes890
      @Wishes890 Год назад

      ​@@yohansharp3040No.

    • @yohansharp3040
      @yohansharp3040 Год назад +3

      @@Wishes890 in Europe they do 🤷🏼

  • @nedkelly1306
    @nedkelly1306 3 месяца назад +1

    Actually smart for anyone to learn how to drive but everyone who can already drive won't use it and it's a fun economy car

  • @ronniejohnson317
    @ronniejohnson317 Год назад +294

    I have been driving a manual 47 years. My foot work is somewhere between Fred Astaire and stomping out a forest fire.

    • @EC-ol8nz
      @EC-ol8nz Год назад +7

      😂 Same here, depends on the clutch 😂

    • @clarasorchard88
      @clarasorchard88 Год назад +2

      😂 I’d say you got it down sir!!!

    • @donchristie420
      @donchristie420 Год назад

      Wow, I’m between clog and tap😊

  • @axlaxl3661
    @axlaxl3661 Год назад +1887

    That awkard backroll is 100% avoidable even without the feature 😂

    • @Streetlight37
      @Streetlight37 Год назад +217

      Lol right? That doesn't happen if you know how to drive a manual

    • @TacoCat8891
      @TacoCat8891 Год назад +94

      Goes to show you who can and can’t drive a manual

    • @jasonduffy7677
      @jasonduffy7677 Год назад +45

      Yep, its called an Ebrake.

    • @TONOCLAY
      @TONOCLAY Год назад +125

      @@jasonduffy7677 nah just quarter grab the clutch with the foot switch from brake to throttle then hit the throttle about half way down equalizing the speed at with you lift the clutch to the rate at which you press the throttle. do that successfully and you will never roll back.

    • @fungo6631
      @fungo6631 Год назад +13

      Even so, most cars since 2015 or so have this feature on manual models. Lets you keep your hands on the wheel.

  • @ricardoramirez9510
    @ricardoramirez9510 Год назад +894

    You know he’s a salesman with those shoes

    • @OviWanKeno9i
      @OviWanKeno9i Год назад +43

      There's definitely a way of dressing in sales. I can spot them so far away almost every time. Body language and way of speaking is super different too. It stands out quickly.

    • @devongee1776
      @devongee1776 Год назад +4

      One HUNDRED percent.

    • @ArizonaDavis97
      @ArizonaDavis97 Год назад +8

      I can personally confirm… I sold cars for a year at a Kid dealership back in 2021 and I have those exact shoes in three different colors.

    • @k-bear7707
      @k-bear7707 Год назад +18

      @@ArizonaDavis97amazing! On average how many kids did you sell a month?

    • @ShadowRing0219
      @ShadowRing0219 Год назад

      I just wear the shoes bc they’re stylish.

  • @ottojablonka
    @ottojablonka 4 месяца назад +1

    A: auto hold is standard for the European market
    B: if you need your car to help you downshift, learn how to drive or buy an automatic

  • @moisestheentrepreneur637
    @moisestheentrepreneur637 Год назад +2574

    We still need more manuals in this world props to the big company's that still make em

    • @tma4137
      @tma4137 Год назад +20

      Learn punctuation.

    • @okaymatt2497
      @okaymatt2497 Год назад

      @@tma4137 Learn not to be a douche.

    • @DerEchteBabo
      @DerEchteBabo Год назад +71

      Why do we "need" them? Drive them if you like but they have no benefit for the world except for enthusiasts

    • @vinnyvinnn
      @vinnyvinnn Год назад +145

      ⁠@@DerEchteBabothey have benefits, they’re usually cheaper to repair and replace, give the driver more control and can help save fuel, it just seems to be the US where manual cars aren’t common.

    • @johnweiland9389
      @johnweiland9389 Год назад +21

      The automatic cost more to buy and repair. Clutch is low$. That's why I like it.

  • @willkerr665
    @willkerr665 Год назад +659

    The fact that Toyota even still manufactures cars with standard transmission makes me happy

    • @omaoileoinb9
      @omaoileoinb9 Год назад +99

      Half of the world drives manual. We are not all living in north American.

    • @jonchase7752
      @jonchase7752 Год назад +31

      @@omaoileoinb9 many still want a manual but companies are abandoning it in favor of convenience, luxury, computers, and govt regulations.

    • @bruhlewis9508
      @bruhlewis9508 Год назад

      This is such a stupidly American thing to say

    • @kuya_mike7813
      @kuya_mike7813 Год назад

      toyota trash. get a Type R

    • @garyf2871
      @garyf2871 Год назад +11

      Heard the upcoming new 2024 Tacoma will have manual option, at least on the base model

  • @skinnypotato9525
    @skinnypotato9525 Год назад +750

    So basically just rev matching and handbrake hold, something most Honda civics have been doing for a while now

  • @Dani7of7
    @Dani7of7 10 месяцев назад +6

    "Avoids that awkward rollback" feels like an announcement by the professor in Futurama: "Good news everybody! After only a decade of electronics and software research we've fixed the problem we created by removing the break lever!"

  • @rpiian
    @rpiian Год назад +131

    Kudos to Toyota for even having a manual!

    • @VideoArchiveGuy
      @VideoArchiveGuy 11 месяцев назад +1

      Barely even a manual anymore.

    • @rpiian
      @rpiian 11 месяцев назад

      @@VideoArchiveGuy Better than nothing, def not Honda quality though…

    • @bltzcstrnx
      @bltzcstrnx 11 месяцев назад

      IIRC, they patented "manual" on an electric car. Since it's electric, the use stimulate manual instead.

    • @dallasxx
      @dallasxx 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@VideoArchiveGuyhow? its literally a manual transmission. the corolla isnt a sports car so it makes sense to have these technologies. its a real manual thats suited to traffic and beginners

    • @VideoArchiveGuy
      @VideoArchiveGuy 11 месяцев назад

      @@dallasxx Doesn't matter what the car is, if it has a hill holder function, auto rev-matching or stall prevention, it's not a true manual.

  • @revvyishonisd5027
    @revvyishonisd5027 Год назад +724

    Manuals have had “auto hold” to prevent roll back for decades. It’s called the hand brake.

    • @e0nema0tak1v
      @e0nema0tak1v 11 месяцев назад +69

      Thats a "manual hold" tho. And if you have good clutch control you dont need any hold.

    • @bene5431
      @bene5431 11 месяцев назад +23

      ​@@e0nema0tak1vThere are hills where you won't get far with the clutch

    • @davidchav6795
      @davidchav6795 11 месяцев назад

      I never found that hill. ​@@bene5431

    • @StanslaMichael
      @StanslaMichael 11 месяцев назад +10

      @@bene5431 if your good you can, just not recommended.

    • @bene5431
      @bene5431 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@StanslaMichael If you have 3 feet or heel-toe it, sure. I'll stick to 2 feet and a hand

  • @DoubleDTB
    @DoubleDTB Год назад +861

    Everyone: A handbrake is a great way not to roll backwards.
    Toyota: let’s remove that hand brake, replace it with an electronic brake, then install another electronic brake so the car doesn’t roll back!

    • @apersonontheinternet8006
      @apersonontheinternet8006 Год назад +4

      Lol right.

    • @douglasreid699
      @douglasreid699 Год назад +35

      Thing is, my wifes VW passat 2014 model has auto hold in it. Its nothing new to the car world.
      And makes drivers more lazy as they dont have to pull the handbrake button anymore.
      I drive her crazy when i drive the car as i turn autohold off and usually forget to put it back on so when she next uses the car, she gets a fright when it starts to roll back lol

    • @ukaszm1137
      @ukaszm1137 Год назад +71

      ⁠@tomr6955calculators are just for people bad at maths
      synchromeshes are just for people who cannot drive PROPER manual
      motor powered vehicles are just for weak people who are too lazy to use their legs

    • @alexreynolds5258
      @alexreynolds5258 Год назад +2

      I was about to say exactly this 😂

    • @douglasreid699
      @douglasreid699 Год назад +12

      @tomr6955 no, they are tools in a vehicle that let you drive it better depending on your style of driving.

  • @dud335
    @dud335 3 месяца назад +4

    it’s always best to learn how to drive in old slow 4 or 5 speed manual cars like I did

  • @sponduli
    @sponduli Год назад +192

    shifting a manual is not that difficult that you'd need throttle assist but I appreciate Toyota for keeping them alive

    • @s5SnipEmo
      @s5SnipEmo Год назад

      They just killed off the manual in the non GR hatchbacks :(

    • @TheNamesArif
      @TheNamesArif 2 месяца назад

      I'm guessing it makes things easier on track

  • @tristengalambos66
    @tristengalambos66 11 месяцев назад +161

    I had to learn how to control rollback and downshift on my own. I’m pretty happy I learned it in the long run

    • @tede8086
      @tede8086 8 месяцев назад +4

      I've had my first manual now for 8 months and have learned both rev match and roll control. Most fun car I've had so far.

    • @YasEmisDaBus
      @YasEmisDaBus 7 месяцев назад +9

      In Australia, you legally need to be able to do that to be able to drive a manual, they require you to disable all driver assistance technology for the exam

    • @TheSixteensify
      @TheSixteensify 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah, me too, I remember being so nervous the first time and that you do it automatically

    • @HatedJared
      @HatedJared 4 месяца назад

      I have an old jeep wrangler with a 5 speed and no assists. It will be the vehicle my daughter learns manual on. If you can drive with no assists you can drive anything.

    • @RetroGamer74
      @RetroGamer74 4 месяца назад

      That hold is pretty nice though, gotta say 😅

  • @zachhansen7966
    @zachhansen7966 Год назад +160

    1. Pretty much every modern manual (including mine) has auto-hold.
    2. To me, auto-rev matching takes the skill and fun out of driving a manual, which is kind of the whole point. Getting that perfect rev match is so rewarding when you've earned it yourself.

    • @r2db
      @r2db Год назад +6

      Agreed. On your point two, after getting proficient at rev matching on a synchronized transmission, the next level of skill would be driving a 10/ 13/ 18 speed unsynchronized transmission. One does not need to double clutch if one can do perfect rev matching, but if one makes a mistake it might get very awkward and very expensive quite rapidly.

    • @angelito4058
      @angelito4058 Год назад +2

      Yup. And If u rev match correctly in a regular car you don't even have to use the clutch at all.

    • @r2db
      @r2db Год назад +6

      @@angelito4058 I have not driven a huge number of different transmissions despite every vehicle I have purchased for myself being a manual, but I have found that heavier duty synchronized transmissions do not like the driver attempting to shift without clutching. In a light, small, sporty 2-door with a 5-speed, no problem. SUV with a 6-speed manual, it will tolerate with some protest. Trying it in a 1-ton diesel pickup truck with a 6-speed manual, not good. Step up to a truck tractor (Freightliner/ Peterbilt/ etc.) with an unsynchronized transmission and the most proficient drivers only need the clutch to start from a dead stop.

    • @Float_Locker
      @Float_Locker Год назад +2

      It’s the equivalent of a participation trophy but for driving

    • @lol-iy7wv
      @lol-iy7wv Год назад +2

      I believe ypu can turn it off in some newer mt cars tho right? If u can, just save it for the track. Personally, I don't want to muck about with that in traffic

  • @samwang5831
    @samwang5831 4 месяца назад +2

    Manual is more fuel efficient than any automatics.The gearbox is much more reliable and it will let your car accelerate faster. Hopefully more people will drive manual.

    • @Providence83
      @Providence83 2 месяца назад

      Literally each of these points has not been true for at the minimum 7 years now. Modern automatics pound-for-pound have met manuals in fuel efficiency and, depending on the _kind_ of automatic transmission, will blaze past _most_ manual cars, also noting that "most" are probably 15-20 years old comparatively.
      Don't get me wrong though, I wouldn't trade in my manual until its engine blows itself to pieces, at which point I'll go straight to EV. The most sensitive automatic doesn't even get close to the intimate feel that manuals have in terms of your control. You have to kick an automatic in the ass for it to respond how you want with _everything_ you do. Stomp on gas to force it to switch gears, stomp on brake to force it to a complete stop because the engine is always in first and always fighting you. Last time I drove an automatic I found it extremely annoying.

    • @samwang5831
      @samwang5831 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Providence83 Yes, you are right. I did some checking, there is around a 10% improvement for automatics over manuals for new cars. There are now more gears and the computer can shift at the optimal points. Thanks for pointing out my mistake

  • @Sith_dude
    @Sith_dude Год назад +458

    Subaru had the hillholder clutch back in the 80s 😂

    • @scolombe1
      @scolombe1 Год назад +13

      Yeah, they did, I think they had it in the later 70's too

    • @slergdasinna
      @slergdasinna Год назад +46

      If you need the hillholder you shouldn’t be driving a manual…just sayin😮

    • @Sith_dude
      @Sith_dude Год назад +34

      @Sergio Zelaya Scott say that after driving on the streets of San Francisco or up in mountain communities with 8° grades at intersections. I've driven in both and that suby clutch saves your clutch and foot.

    • @dylanreece601
      @dylanreece601 Год назад +11

      Yes! I was thinking this too. Funny how he considers catching up “new features” 😂

    • @DerekinSheboygan
      @DerekinSheboygan Год назад +3

      Came here to say this! I had an 88 DL wagon and thought it was amazing for the time. It also had the e-brake on the front wheels and the spare tire in the engine bay. My mind was blown lol

  • @montanaelkwhisperer1744
    @montanaelkwhisperer1744 Год назад +371

    Subaru had a "hill holder" clutch thirty years ago.

    • @Kevin75668
      @Kevin75668 Год назад +10

      Yup. It went away when they went to hydraulic clutches, but it's back on the newer ones with stability control. Best part about the electronic version, it works when backing up a hill in reverse.

    • @bldontmatter5319
      @bldontmatter5319 Год назад +33

      I have a hill holder. It's called a parking brake.

    • @Thechino231
      @Thechino231 Год назад +8

      Americans when they see this: 😮
      Europeans: 😴

    • @montanaelkwhisperer1744
      @montanaelkwhisperer1744 Год назад

      @@bldontmatter5319 and that will fail your driving test.

    • @montanaelkwhisperer1744
      @montanaelkwhisperer1744 Год назад

      @@Thechino231 Americans responding to smarmy Europeans and their constant smug air of superiority....🤬🖕🦸🇺🇸

  • @dankmemer2774
    @dankmemer2774 Год назад +328

    As long as you have the ability to turn all of that off, I’m all for it.

    • @EMB1199
      @EMB1199 Год назад +18

      The only thing it does alone is the rev matching, and to be honest it's a pretty good feature. It still gives you all the control over the gears and clutch, it just makes downshifting easier

    • @Whyismytacoblue666
      @Whyismytacoblue666 Год назад +4

      @@EMB1199 some things some people like, some things some people dont like, me personally I hate all the new gadgets in vehicles, i think it makes people lazy. My Acura MDX has all kinda of bells and whistles, i turn them all off as soon as i start it.. my buddy has the same vehicle and he loves all the gadgets 🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @dankmemer2774
      @dankmemer2774 Год назад +12

      @@EMB1199 if you can’t turn off the auto rev match feature, it would be a real shame. The rev match downshifts, especially the heel & toe downshifts are the best part of driving a manual. If auto rev match is always on, it’ll be hard to practice your downshifts properly.

    • @EMB1199
      @EMB1199 Год назад +5

      @@dankmemer2774 I don't really like to heel e toe, I do it because it's needed, but I enjoy the manual because it gives me more control over the car, with clutch fiddling and gear choice, so if it's just the heel e toe that is automated it's a win for me, plus I bet the gear chance would be smoother and faster

    • @dankmemer2774
      @dankmemer2774 Год назад +4

      @@EMB1199 it’s never about speed when you opt for a manual car especially with them automatic these days shifting so fast. for me, when I nail a perfect heel toe, it’s orgasmic. The satisfaction is unparalleled. I’m trying both “big toe little toe” and actual “heel and toe” methods. I find that if you are applying low to moderate braking pressure, big toe little toe is enough. But if I am applying high brake pressure, actual heel toe is better. Between having an auto rev match that can be toggled on and off vs no auto rev match, having it is better. But between permanent auto rev match and no auto rev match, I would rather bot have it.

  • @zone07
    @zone07 4 месяца назад +1

    No heel toe, no rev match, might as well get an automatic.

  • @jamessizemore7103
    @jamessizemore7103 Год назад +725

    Might as well let the car do the shifting for you at that point

    • @VirtuousWanderer
      @VirtuousWanderer 11 месяцев назад +19

      I have this exact transmission. I don't think I have ever unironically used the imt button other than off the lot to try it out. The auto break hold is pretty neat, tho, but not a feature I use too often.

    • @jamessizemore7103
      @jamessizemore7103 11 месяцев назад +39

      @@VirtuousWanderer meh, part of the joy of driving manual is learning how to manipulate 3 pedals simultaneously

    • @paulklp8262
      @paulklp8262 11 месяцев назад +34

      Manuals in base Corollas aren't about fun or control, they're about budget and saving money. I'm glad it has auto rev and hold.

    • @OlympiaUnlimited
      @OlympiaUnlimited 11 месяцев назад +31

      It’s a Corolla not a Ferrari lmfao not everything has to be a purebred driving experience it’s an economy car for practicality and functionality.

    • @nibirdtamuli8429
      @nibirdtamuli8429 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@jamessizemore7103 no every has to enjoy driving , its a necessary chore for most

  • @patrickmaloy5262
    @patrickmaloy5262 Год назад +150

    It was called "Hill holder" on the 1950's Studebaker.

    • @deanugbuFX
      @deanugbuFX Год назад

      That was just a parking brake bro

    • @snafubar5491
      @snafubar5491 Год назад +2

      @@deanugbuFX.........No, it wasn't.

  • @seanb9698
    @seanb9698 Год назад +111

    I immediately disengaged the hill hold in my 2011 STI. It would grab when I wasn't expecting it and annoyed the hell out of me. I've been driving manual for 27 out of my 41 years on this earth and have quick feet so I only roll back a few inches at most.

    • @VanillaWahlberg
      @VanillaWahlberg Год назад +11

      You can also apply the handbrake, if it's really steep and you have a bumper rider, and let the clutch out to the bite point, then release the handbrake. Easy way not to roll back.

    • @frontagulus
      @frontagulus Год назад +1

      VW Golf - it doesn't always seem to release in reverse, so my wife uses it but I don't

    • @johannesbohm6458
      @johannesbohm6458 Год назад +12

      You can also just get the clutch to slightly engage before letting go of the brake and quickly switch to the gas with your right foot.
      This way you won't roll back at all on most (not so steep) hills.

    • @chriscohlmeyer4735
      @chriscohlmeyer4735 Год назад +1

      It's a pain time wise but if they are too close to you it is their fault - my standard instruction to my children as they learned to drive a manual.

    • @mamba101
      @mamba101 Год назад +1

      This is how you prematurely wear out your clutch.

  • @1989hainoki
    @1989hainoki 4 месяца назад

    My car is from 1972 has a hold button as well, its called a handbrake, i pull it up, then when I want to set off I just bring the clutch to biting point then push the little button on the handbrake and move it down, best part is too its all mechanical, so I dont have to pay an auto electrician stupid amounts of money to fix it

  • @NiNjAcAt5677
    @NiNjAcAt5677 Год назад +143

    Manually rev matching is the best part of driving a manual car.

    • @multitablez7825
      @multitablez7825 Год назад

      this

    • @keenanvandeusen
      @keenanvandeusen Год назад +6

      Agreed. Rented the new Civic Type R for a trip and had to disable the auto rev matching because it took all the fun out of it

    • @largol33t1
      @largol33t1 Год назад +1

      ONLY if the dumb brand doesn't put the gas so low that you can't reach it. I can't do it with my car because the brake pedal is so high up that I can't "heel" or blip the gas.

    • @furosukki1301
      @furosukki1301 Год назад +2

      ​@@largol33t1yeah, but you can still rematch while not braking

    • @marcusj17
      @marcusj17 Год назад

      Same goes for motorcycles

  • @kramericaindustries65
    @kramericaindustries65 Год назад +107

    No way! I cant believe a new toyota has a feature that has been around in manual cars for years. Absolutely insane and revolutionary. Please tell us more.

    • @hojnikb
      @hojnikb Год назад +1

      yeah, features like these had been in economy cars for decade or more...

    • @adriaanroets7434
      @adriaanroets7434 Год назад

      Toyota had these features for a few years now, maybe it’s something new in the region or the model idk. Having a button for the auto hold is overkill though, my Hilux doesn’t have a button for it it’s just on

  • @jaelynnholloman4260
    @jaelynnholloman4260 Год назад +399

    My dad left me on that hill until I had the courage to do it by myself I’ll always remember that

    • @byronn.2885
      @byronn.2885 11 месяцев назад +61

      That right there is where the problem lies today. You had a Dad teaching you how to be a man. These days every single mother shield their “little boy” from any chance of failure.

    • @jaelynnholloman4260
      @jaelynnholloman4260 11 месяцев назад +16

      @@byronn.2885 I know brother I know. That’s why I posted the comment, it’s sad what we’ve seen this generation grow into

    • @dtreeman
      @dtreeman 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@jaelynnholloman4260 It's just where we are in a cycle. Gotta get bad after some good so that things can get good again.

    • @wyslink9354
      @wyslink9354 11 месяцев назад

      my old man was always way too akward at trying to teach anything so I got the briefing from my mom then they just let me go with my learners lmao@@byronn.2885 who cares bro also what are you all even talking about

    • @burtonholmes2096
      @burtonholmes2096 11 месяцев назад +10

      That's what a good dad does, make you learn how to drive. I'll bet he also taught you accountability as well.

  • @passletters6465
    @passletters6465 4 месяца назад +1

    I dont drive manual, but i ride sportbikes. I dont understand the need for heel-toeing. If you down shift, the engine naturally slows the car, so unless you're going way too fast up to a red light, theres no need. Just down shift and revmatch with your whole foot.

    • @arcanevoid9199
      @arcanevoid9199 4 месяца назад

      engine braking is much stronger in bikes, and sometimes you want to downshift smoothly while going down a hill etc

  • @AlzhinSon
    @AlzhinSon Год назад +79

    Man wasn't living in a cave, he was residing in the Mariana trench

  • @riffhammeron
    @riffhammeron Год назад +423

    Subaru had the auto hold feature back in the '70s. They called it "Hill Holder"

    • @seandepoppe6716
      @seandepoppe6716 Год назад +3

      Facts

    • @leithchesser7449
      @leithchesser7449 Год назад +11

      Studebaker also had it about 30 years before Subaru fun fact

    • @BlueOvals24
      @BlueOvals24 Год назад +4

      Toyota probably asked them for that feature when they bought their 20% stake.

    • @ninjaknight-jn9ky
      @ninjaknight-jn9ky Год назад +1

      Came here to say this it was mechanical back then and in the mid 2000s they chenged it to semi mechanical the clutch also has a delayed behavior on hills in the mid 2000s ones for hills using a ball bearing in the fluid.

    • @pnweezy
      @pnweezy Год назад

      Just use the brake! 😅

  • @anichols5845
    @anichols5845 Год назад +637

    Nothing like fixing problems that don’t exist

    • @lumbardo1041
      @lumbardo1041 Год назад +37

      I will say hill start assist in my WRX is very useful

    • @xythiera7255
      @xythiera7255 Год назад +20

      ​@@lumbardo1041Thats a function not a solution for something that doesnt exist like in that clip . For exampel roleing back your car only means you dont have any clutch controle at all and meaby shoud lern that instat of haveing a aka technical solution at that point just drive automatic

    • @lumbardo1041
      @lumbardo1041 Год назад +18

      Hill start assist seems like exactly the same as "auto hold". The first feature explained in the video. And preventing your car from rolling back on a hill does not require clutch control. If you are using your clutch to prevent your car from rolling down a hill you are slipping the clutch when you don't have to. You should either hold the brake until the clutch disc engages with the flywheel, then press the gas. Or use the handbrake.

    • @lukanislol
      @lukanislol Год назад +9

      @@lumbardo1041 Ever heard of first add some gas under handbrake and lift?

    • @lumbardo1041
      @lumbardo1041 Год назад +2

      @@lukanislol that's what I meant by the handbrake

  • @thomas316
    @thomas316 4 месяца назад +2

    Was roll back ever a real problem? Most of us learned to either use the handbrake or use our heel on the brake pedal and toe on the throttle.

  • @corporalpunishment924
    @corporalpunishment924 Год назад +49

    Am so use to doing it the old school way that even when cars have these functions I just do it as I’ve always done it

    • @JohnSmith-pn1vv
      @JohnSmith-pn1vv Год назад +1

      Can you imagine a hooman from today trying to drive a model t?

    • @corporalpunishment924
      @corporalpunishment924 Год назад +1

      @@JohnSmith-pn1vv Right? 99% of people probably couldn’t get the thing started let alone get it into gear and get moving. In fact most people aren’t capable of even checking their oil for cryin’ out loud.

    • @icantcook9998
      @icantcook9998 Год назад +2

      Everything he said that he loved about the new technology is everything that I hate about it

    • @lol-iy7wv
      @lol-iy7wv Год назад

      ​@@corporalpunishment924to most people, driving and cars is a nescesity. They just want a functional and comfortable machine to get from a to b.

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth Год назад

      It's just gimmicks

  • @colin55594
    @colin55594 Год назад +68

    Best manual is you doing all the work. Once you master it theres nothing more satisfying

    • @allseeingotto2912
      @allseeingotto2912 Год назад +6

      Exactly, they are taking the skills out of driving and riding with this bullshit .

    • @gild651
      @gild651 Год назад +5

      Thank you! If you want it to be easier, just get an automatic like most other people.

    • @spyker_aileron
      @spyker_aileron Год назад +4

      I’d like to watch a gen z’s head explode when they see an unsynchronized double-clutch manual. Were you have to clutch out in neutral to synchronizethe next gear.
      Never need to do leg day… every day is leg day with one of those.

    • @kuunib7325
      @kuunib7325 Год назад

      @@spyker_aileron Well give me a lap in your car then....

    • @bradhall7855
      @bradhall7855 Год назад

      Well said!

  • @thatslegit
    @thatslegit Год назад +145

    Europeans: "look what they have to do to match a fraction of our power"

  • @pflewellen
    @pflewellen 4 месяца назад +1

    Wow! A stick shift in a small car does still exist! Awesome Toyota. I haven't driven a manual since my 20's! Used to love it❤❤

  • @civicrocker
    @civicrocker Год назад +216

    That “Awkward” roll back is the best part! Lets you really light up the tires!!!

    • @specialneedsmolester1957
      @specialneedsmolester1957 Год назад +10

      Hell yeah I love doing that in my fucking fwd Corolla

    • @stamfordly6463
      @stamfordly6463 Год назад +9

      Or - and this might be a radical idea - you could just use the bloody handbrake like a sensible person and not feck up your tyres and clutch.

    • @turbolab2376
      @turbolab2376 Год назад +11

      You can also just be quick and smooth.

    • @1keykneedeep
      @1keykneedeep Год назад +10

      That rollback is a test of skills. And fun too

    • @DarrellWilkerson4.6
      @DarrellWilkerson4.6 Год назад +5

      Dude most people here with manuals have stock fwd cars 😂, they're not driving old rwd muscle cars.

  • @everydaybodybuilding2282
    @everydaybodybuilding2282 Год назад +78

    Like every new manual has that roll back hold. Auto rev match is common too.

    • @throwback19841
      @throwback19841 Год назад

      Yeah i had it on a budget vauxhall rental car recently lol. Premium feature it aint. Confused the hell out of me... I was trying to give it some gas to pull away briskly and the bloody thing kept rev cutting on me.

    • @matthewcollette3424
      @matthewcollette3424 Год назад +2

      Have this on my 09 a3 bruh that’s 14 years ago smh

    • @iuopunderstandyourjokes9914
      @iuopunderstandyourjokes9914 Год назад

      The golf 8 doesn't have auto rev match

    • @thevegastan
      @thevegastan Год назад

      Not everywhere in the world. But if there's any carmaker that can make it GLOBALLY available & accessible, it's gonna be Toyota.

    • @everydaybodybuilding2282
      @everydaybodybuilding2282 Год назад +1

      @@iuopunderstandyourjokes9914 does have auto hold tho

  • @michaelholt8590
    @michaelholt8590 Год назад +1056

    Tell me you can't drive a manual properly without telling me you can't drive a manual properly.

    • @carterrrrrrr
      @carterrrrrrr Год назад +59

      literally i’m on my third month of driving a manual and i just never roll back cause i like actually use my feet 💀

    • @danielgodfrey4415
      @danielgodfrey4415 Год назад

      If you coast to stop or play the hippie hop.

    • @ryanrich9186
      @ryanrich9186 Год назад

      Love it

    • @hybrid9mm
      @hybrid9mm Год назад +16

      New feature had me laughing, this has been around for over 10yrs 🤷‍♂️
      Plus the handbrake releases automatically anyway without the hill start button being activated and it automatically applies it when you turn off the ignition.

    • @privatezeron
      @privatezeron Год назад +55

      Please. Giving some features that help newer people drive a manual is exactly what we need in order to save the manuals.

  • @AndyBonesSynthPro
    @AndyBonesSynthPro 8 месяцев назад +2

    I like the roll-back of a manual trans! It's a bit of tactile feedback that reminds me I'm directly, mechanically in control of my 330ci's drivetrain & unless I'm in gear, clutch-dropped it is just a weighted object with 4 wheels

  • @adawg3032
    @adawg3032 Год назад +88

    “I been driving a manual since I was 4” says everyone when asked how long they drive manual

    • @zombiebong6
      @zombiebong6 Год назад +21

      My dad use to let me shift for him when I was still in the Sack, he'd just toss his nuts on the shifter and I'd do the rest.....

    • @obviousness8113
      @obviousness8113 Год назад +4

      I was 14 in 1988 when I learned how to drive my dad's little 1979 Plymouth Arrow. So simple, so fun. I miss the truck and I miss Dad.

    • @Lousasshol
      @Lousasshol Год назад

      @@zombiebong6.. I tried to stick shift my dads dick when my mom was pregnant w me , I’m natural

    • @Mr.NiceGuy80
      @Mr.NiceGuy80 Год назад +1

      I used to shift from thebpassenger seat when i was super young. I learned to drive a VW beetle when i was 10-12 i can't remember. My grandmother's 70s super beetle.

    • @chacorta8306
      @chacorta8306 Год назад +1

      You must be American… most people in my country learn how to drive (a manual) at around 5-6 years old. By 10 they’re better drivers than 97% of Americans who don’t know a difference between a passing lane and the fast lane. Not to mention they don’t know blinkers exist

  • @tj4234
    @tj4234 Год назад +103

    Anyone who needs an "autohold" button to stop their car rolling whilst they release the clutch should hand in their licence.

    • @merlijnwiersma7801
      @merlijnwiersma7801 Год назад

      In The Netherlands you can fail your driver's license test if you do.

    • @luk4s56
      @luk4s56 Год назад +8

      yep in my country you wont pass the license test if you cant catch the car up hill with minimal roll
      so yeah you wont even get a license if you cant do it

    • @richmondvand147
      @richmondvand147 Год назад +1

      based

    • @ugaladh
      @ugaladh Год назад +2

      Agree, but also my Mazda prevents rollback by using the brake without you having to push any button to do so, so that's not some big invention.

    • @Ngcarson1337
      @Ngcarson1337 Год назад

      I guess, but most fun modern cars coming in a manual, have this sort of feature. Shit, even my MK6 GTI had it…

  • @TheDigitalArk
    @TheDigitalArk Год назад +54

    These are cool toys, but the feature I appreciate most is you can turn both the hill holder and rev-match off.

    • @AGyuh
      @AGyuh 11 месяцев назад +1

      I had an Elantra N for a while and it had all these features. I was really happy that you could turn them on and off quickly. If I'm driving alone, I will drive a bit more spirited and I enjoy rev matching myself and don't mind if the car jerks a little more downshifting and such but when I had my wife in the car, she gets carsick easily so having the rev matching on makes it a lot smoother for her. It was real nice to have the option.

    • @ccreations123
      @ccreations123 11 месяцев назад

      Hill holder in a subaru was annoying, i'd take off and suck the back of the car down waiting on it to release

    • @warrenmcelroy4718
      @warrenmcelroy4718 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@AGyuhif you aren’t double clutching when downshifting then what’s the point of revving the engine in the first place? It doesn’t do anything mechanically if the clutch pedal is pushed in while you rev the engine

  • @HavokStrifeX
    @HavokStrifeX 8 месяцев назад

    My 11 year old Subaru has hill assist. I don't even think it has a button, it just does it.
    I never have rev matched a single time daily driving my car. I never blew a clutch, trans, etc. either. Nor do I give my passengers whiplash with downshifting.
    So, yeah. Cool.

  • @allseeingotto2912
    @allseeingotto2912 Год назад +267

    So another complicated solution to a problem that was never a problem in the first place .

  • @ImTheDudeMan471
    @ImTheDudeMan471 Год назад +36

    Dear Toyota, I still prefer the pull up handbrake beside your seat with thumb release.

    • @starbound03
      @starbound03 Год назад +1

      Wait what do they do for handbrakes now?

    • @ronaldnorris2179
      @ronaldnorris2179 Год назад +1

      @@starbound03switch control…power

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth Год назад +1

      ​@@starbound03in this short, when the guy points to the "hill hold" button, the button right next to it is the parking brake.
      Instead of there being a normal handle that you can modulate manually.

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth Год назад

      The button with a capital P with a circle and brake shoes around it.
      Even though a parking brake (drum or drum-in-disc) has the shoes _inside_ the circular drum.

    • @dknollRX7
      @dknollRX7 11 месяцев назад +2

      My GR Corolla still has a manual hand brake. I work for BMW and hate all of the electric parking brakes. Just more crap to fail, leave you stranded, and cost you lots of money.

  • @SirNutty95
    @SirNutty95 Год назад +71

    It’s a travesty seeing all these manufacturers losing the manual parking brake lever to add the gross electric ones. 😢

    • @pizzamangametime9773
      @pizzamangametime9773 Год назад +6

      And they are expensive to fix too my uncle had a new Silverado and it went out and it was not cheap at all

    • @magnolia972
      @magnolia972 Год назад +6

      everything manufacturers do these days is taking simple processes and complicate them to the max…and than they call it new technology.
      and not only in the car industry…..everywhere!
      why? most people are lazy…and weak and always want to go the easy way. so these manufacturers have the best foundation to make huge amounts of money….and rule the world.
      people are like addicts for things “that make their life easier“ but in most cases it’s the opposite. all of this “new tech” generates problems we hadn’t before and we don’t need.
      every major company these days: “we polluted and destroyed the planet. we try to save it and -make it green again- and destroy and pollute it even more….or take the pollution to other countries. we are the good people! (shoulder tap)”

    • @leon.690sm9
      @leon.690sm9 Год назад +4

      fr fr i want to be able to drift with my manual hand brake

    • @roygillotti4615
      @roygillotti4615 Год назад +2

      Yeah glad the Tacoma still has a traditional Parking Brake and not that electric abomination.

    • @llamaeatingpie
      @llamaeatingpie Год назад

      ​@@pizzamangametime9773 Silverado is a piece of junk tho

  • @largeadam
    @largeadam 3 месяца назад +1

    All of the "cool features" aside, I am just happy to see a manual transmission, instead of the hideous CVT. Use the CVT for their massive rental car market.

  • @flitflit4579
    @flitflit4579 Год назад +118

    So instead of just pulling the hand brake, you got a bunch of other parts to break, E.g. switch, motor, cables sensors what a great idea!

    • @getoutside5231
      @getoutside5231 11 месяцев назад +3

      My thoughts exactly

    • @jacobwebb8818
      @jacobwebb8818 11 месяцев назад +17

      Switches rarely ever break*, handbrake has sensors and cables already, the only thing you need to worry about is the motor lmfao.
      That's like saying "I don't want to buy this car. It has push to start! That button might break" even though it's been proven for years.
      I prefer a handbrake too but I'm not gonna let it keep me from buying a car

    • @VirtuousWanderer
      @VirtuousWanderer 11 месяцев назад +1

      Honestly, the E-parking break and auto hold are handy for beginners (i have been manual since 2015). If you dont want to use them, that's fine by me, but the "switches break" argument is a bit silly. I have had my 21 corolla since it had 16 miles and not once had an issue with them not working as intended.

    • @flitflit4579
      @flitflit4579 11 месяцев назад

      Oh, yeah, I forgot about the automatic applying, that basically locks down your vehicle when the battery voltage drops. park brake can't release. If only the electrical engineers understood the mechanical side of their work.
      One last thing, just because your particular model is okay right now, what about all the other vehicles out there?
      Here's another great one, can't get vehicles into neutral unless the motor is running, so on crashed vehicles with no coolant or oil that's always fun, that the motor has run to be put in neutral for towing, Brilliant!@@VirtuousWanderer

    • @andries4561
      @andries4561 11 месяцев назад +1

      Lol no sensors, the motors pull more power when they contact the rotor and then the system knows its good

  • @tst3vens
    @tst3vens Год назад +29

    Not that driving a manual is especially hard, but my 2015 Mini JCW does both of these things

    • @sammilburn445
      @sammilburn445 Год назад +3

      My mates 2008 135i coupe has hill start assist, and I’m fairly sure rev match was basically standard on f generation BMWs too. Really don’t see how this is anything new or special. And auto hold on electric handbrakes is nothing new either, you can get in a 2013 Volkswagen Golf with it

    • @thevegastan
      @thevegastan Год назад

      Yeah, but where I live, a Mini JCW costs $95,560.
      So if this IMT tech can go into an average Corolla Altis that costs $26,000 here, it'll fare better.

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 Год назад

      Subaru had that hold feature years ago, the brake would release just as the clutch was starting to engage when you were on a hill, as I recall when you were sitting on a hill with the clutch pushed in if you pulled up on the parking brake lever and let it back down it'd stay applied and you could take your foot off the brake, then when you were letting the clutch out just as it started engaging the brake would release.
      I can remember driving a friend's mid 80's Subaru that had that feature, lots of hills where I live and it really came in handy.

  • @hunterromano5562
    @hunterromano5562 Год назад +261

    "I don't know how to drive a manual" starter pack.

    • @iwantchocolate8017
      @iwantchocolate8017 Год назад +29

      Congratulations, thanks for pointing out you are the son of Ken Block himself and you never have had any problems with any kind of transmission in any kind of car in any kind of traffic in any kind of weather

    • @eshuorishas9987
      @eshuorishas9987 Год назад +19

      I’m guessing you like to announce that you drink only black coffee and always make a comment about who is a real man at Starbucks when your wife makes you go.

    • @watosmate8935
      @watosmate8935 Год назад

      Corola skillissue

    • @gurpreetsoomal5408
      @gurpreetsoomal5408 Год назад

      ​@@iwantchocolate8017no weather or incline, should make driving a manual difficult. It requires a different technique to start, but it's nowhere near difficult. It takes a few days of driving to learn to never slip a wheel, and go easy on the clutch. It's all about learning the clurch6 friction zone, and being able to keep idle at 500-800pms no matter what driving situation you are in. Heel toe, manual Handbrake if it's a very steep hill and you are driving on bald tires, etc.

    • @watosmate8935
      @watosmate8935 Год назад

      @@gurpreetsoomal5408 riding a motorbike is alot easier I reckon, swear I can't feel the engine when I've driven a few times

  • @danieldube8035
    @danieldube8035 8 месяцев назад

    I can understand those features potentially being useful for a beginner, but I find it difficult to imagine clicking buttons being efficient when one can simply know how to shift, clutch, and rev-match. Impressive engineering, but unnecessarily complex, and with it benefit for an experienced driver.

  • @davidpritchett855
    @davidpritchett855 11 месяцев назад +54

    Auto hold so you don't roll back. My man I'm still in my 20s and even I know. One hand on the wheel, one on the parking brake, release the clutch and e brake at the same time while revving. Grew up in Colorado on steep icy roads. It just works

    • @TakeNoShift
      @TakeNoShift 8 месяцев назад +13

      Unless you're in a pickup and your parking brake is on the floor. Right foot on the brake, clutch foot comes up until the clutch starts to bite, let off brake, give it gas and let clutch out. No hand operated parking brake in my F150.

    • @Atrociousa3
      @Atrociousa3 8 месяцев назад +7

      Unless your car comes with a lame electronic parking brake that requires you to press on the brake pedal to disengage. Automakers taking the fun out of driving

    • @falsefreedom1713
      @falsefreedom1713 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@TakeNoShift I guess that comes down to test driving a car before you buy it.

    • @TakeNoShift
      @TakeNoShift 8 месяцев назад

      @@falsefreedom1713What?

    • @coryswanson2247
      @coryswanson2247 8 месяцев назад +1

      Or you know just send it and take the 6” rollback like a man

  • @musicbykazemura
    @musicbykazemura Год назад +581

    Having a new manual is insane by itself

    • @theycallme_nightmaster
      @theycallme_nightmaster Год назад +68

      Yeah I'm not going to complain about the hand holding features if they keep making manuals. At least they are optional.

    • @warviking7647
      @warviking7647 Год назад +13

      Corolla is an affordabke reliabilitet car. Manuals are more reliabilite then automatic, more fuel efficient and cheaper

    • @GabrielRM
      @GabrielRM Год назад +11

      ​@warviking7647 cheaper yes, more efficient? Not necessarily, new automatic cars from good manufacturers are likely more efficient than manual nowadays. Especially when you use them in eco mode. Not even mentioning extra features they can come with nowadays.
      And if you really want manual for whatever reason, you can manually shift the gears yourself anyway.

    • @thebaconsonful
      @thebaconsonful Год назад +9

      @@warviking7647as much as I am a manual fan boi. All our families cars are manual. A modern automatic is more efficient. They shift more often keeping the car in peak efficiency.
      Plus in stop start traffic. And slow crawling traffic the auto will get more efficiency.

    • @canul3801
      @canul3801 Год назад

      @@GabrielRMto be precise. its cvt gearbox that made lot impact. low rev at all time. even high rev is still somehow effiecent. low performance but more efficient

  • @kettle_of_chris
    @kettle_of_chris Год назад +92

    I thought Subaru had a feature called a hill holder way back in the late 80's/90's

    • @georgewilkinson1068
      @georgewilkinson1068 Год назад +3

      It did.

    • @classicrockonly
      @classicrockonly Год назад

      Still does in my 2018 Crosstrek. It just does it for you, no buttons

    • @kettle_of_chris
      @kettle_of_chris Год назад +1

      @@georgewilkinson1068 Thanks! I'm not losing my memory just yet.

    • @kettle_of_chris
      @kettle_of_chris Год назад

      @@classicrockonly Interesting. You mentioned 'buttons' & more memories came back to me (from 1993) My then girlfriend had a Subaru w/that feature...a station wagon w/a 5 speed. Helped her learn to a drive a stick.

    • @classicrockonly
      @classicrockonly Год назад +1

      @@kettle_of_chris ahh I love when memories come like that. Reminds me now of teaching my wife to drive. She came from a different country and didn’t have a car

  • @umaxen0048
    @umaxen0048 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you Baby Jesus! A Corolla Sport Hatch with 6 SPEED MANUAL, reliable a/c and great seats!!

  • @jamessever8936
    @jamessever8936 Год назад +61

    I'm just happy some manufacturers are still making manuals

    • @Dreyno
      @Dreyno Год назад +6

      Why wouldn’t they make them? They sell millions every year.

    • @jamessever8936
      @jamessever8936 Год назад +8

      @@Dreyno Yeah but its really hard to find vehicles with manual versions in the US. I am specifically looking for a small 2 door pickup that is manual. Doesn't exist anymore

    • @Dreyno
      @Dreyno Год назад +4

      @@jamessever8936 Could you import a Toyota Hilux from Mexico? Seems crazy that you can’t buy manual pickups because the vast majority of pickups worldwide are manual.

    • @jamessever8936
      @jamessever8936 Год назад +1

      @@Dreyno importing is an option, but that seems expensive and complicated. As far as I know there are only two trucks that are currently being sold in the US with manual transmissions and both of them have like 4ft beds and may as well be SUV's

    • @williamgreen5575
      @williamgreen5575 Год назад +2

      I would say ALL manufacturers still make MOSTLY manual cars and only sell the autos to the USA. Almost every other country in the world drives predominantly manual transmissions. Its only the US that think a manual is hard to learn/drive.

  • @telepresencebot2
    @telepresencebot2 Год назад +9

    They had to add the auto hold feature because they removed the hand brake, which is how you normally do that "easily"

    • @adriandeleon6341
      @adriandeleon6341 Год назад +1

      Removing the traditional handbrake is one of the stupidest things on modern cars, imo. Increasing cost and complexity while reducing functionality just to get more "stremlined" interior designs that nobody asked for. Pretty much sums up the current automotive industry

    • @LuckyCharms777
      @LuckyCharms777 Год назад

      What, they removed the handbrake?! So I guess when you park, the auto-hold engages. Is the auto-hold going to stop the car if the master cylinder fails? And how much to fix the auto-hold versus a handbrake cable?

    • @scrambledmandible
      @scrambledmandible Год назад

      ​​@@LuckyCharms777No, there's a separate electronic "e-brake" that takes the place of the parking brake
      As to the answers to your questions? Lol probably not but idk
      If the electricity fails so does the e-brake I've heard
      Also of course, it's something only the dealer can fix because it's electronic

    • @LuckyCharms777
      @LuckyCharms777 Год назад

      @@scrambledmandible
      Man, I’m just going to hold onto my old cars as long as I can. These new cars are nothing but crutches for people that can’t drive. They might as well be riding in an escalator.
      Also, if the e-brake fails without electricity, what happens when the battery is dead or disconnected?! I hate that you can’t even shift modern cars into neutral with a dead battery, which prevents you from pushing them.

  • @dominator-tc8ik
    @dominator-tc8ik Год назад +12

    the rollback isn't awkward, it's character.

    • @chadzx27
      @chadzx27 Год назад

      The newer cars like mine which is a manual actually gives you a couple seconds before rolling back. Somehow the car knows when I’m on a hill.

  • @jayprajapat
    @jayprajapat 4 месяца назад +1

    Meanwhile in Europe, we figure out clutch control on our first driving lesson....

  • @netob6826
    @netob6826 Год назад +63

    Make the manual transmission great again!

  • @alaub1990
    @alaub1990 Год назад +14

    Hats off to toyota for keeping the manual alive.

    • @Dreyno
      @Dreyno Год назад +1

      80% of all cars sold in Europe are manual. They’re not a rarity.

    • @alaub1990
      @alaub1990 Год назад

      @@Dreyno Ok i live in the US. Dont give a shit about europe. So my comment is referring to where i live.

    • @Dreyno
      @Dreyno Год назад +2

      @@alaub1990 Toyota aren’t American They’re from Japan. They’re not “keeping the manual alive”. They’re making cars that the rest of the world buys, not because a few people in the USA give them kudos for it.
      So nobody gives a shit whether you take your hat off to them or not.

    • @alaub1990
      @alaub1990 Год назад

      @@Dreyno So why tf are you responding to my comment if "no one cares". Do a fucking google search smart guy. Here in the first world where toyotas are very much a popular car, manual transmissions are being phased out along side combustion engines.

  • @shiekastate
    @shiekastate Год назад +47

    My biggest gripe with my 2019 Honda Civic is that I can't turn off the Hill Assist. I'd rather roll and catch it with the clutch than have it trick me. I've nearly stalled several times because enough gas to disengage Hill Assist isn't always enough gas to move on a hill, so the RPMs drop off like crazy. It's easier to just have it roll a few inches because I know exactly how much gas I need to give it.

    • @roberts1677
      @roberts1677 11 месяцев назад +2

      There has to be a way. Might involve a reflash.

    • @AFTER_MIDNITE
      @AFTER_MIDNITE 11 месяцев назад +7

      Heck sometimes you just want to roll backwards a few inches or feet instead of having to use reverse. I would detest mandatory hill assist / anti-rollback.

    • @taylormartins1631
      @taylormartins1631 8 месяцев назад

      i would def try searching youtube. for the gr86 and brz community you have to do some obscure button hold to get hill assist off

    • @Swaghettiyolonese1
      @Swaghettiyolonese1 8 месяцев назад

      Mine turns off. Literally by pressing the button by the e brake.

    • @justinbennitt835
      @justinbennitt835 8 месяцев назад

      I also have it on my MX-5, however it only enables under certain circumstances (when releasing the foot-brake. It doesn't trigger if releasing the handbrake so it won't interfere with a traditional hill start) and it's also is only active for 2 seconds.

  • @sliferinora9652
    @sliferinora9652 4 месяца назад

    Hold feature: in german manusls for over 10 years
    Rev matching: optional in nissans for over 10 years

  • @brolly2479
    @brolly2479 Год назад +123

    The damn thing does everything for you might as well be a automatic

    • @iiiiii7680
      @iiiiii7680 Год назад +6

      yep, may as well use you + and - on an auto or dct at that point

    • @Coffee.Crisp.
      @Coffee.Crisp. Год назад +1

      @@iiiiii7680 Manual in newer and basic car like a corolla is pointless anyway

    • @GW71093
      @GW71093 Год назад +6

      @@Coffee.Crisp.makes the car a lot more fun though. Slow cars are always so much better with a manual.

    • @Coffee.Crisp.
      @Coffee.Crisp. Год назад

      @@GW71093 I have a Miata , sure it is more fun, but most new car arent has much has old manual transmission

    • @TheWholeGrainBread_Real
      @TheWholeGrainBread_Real Год назад

      ​​@@Coffee.Crisp.correction, you think it's pointless. Funny you day a manual is useless in a car like this Corolla yet you drive a Miata. One of the most basic bitch cars out there.

  • @The_R-n-I_Guy
    @The_R-n-I_Guy Год назад +20

    I probably wouldn't push the buttons to use those features. But I do love a manual transmission 😊

  • @jonm4995
    @jonm4995 Год назад +9

    I love driving a manual. They are a great theft detterant too! I looked at around 100 trucks (forgive me for loving my Ranger too) and only about 10 of them had a manual. I ended up with a supercab sport 4x4 with the 4.0sohc and vinyl floor. Still have it and still love it.

  • @adamsmith4002
    @adamsmith4002 4 месяца назад +1

    Auto hold sounds like an easy way to build a bad habit that'll show when driving a different manual

  • @UberDude
    @UberDude Год назад +19

    The roll back is the best part!

  • @dougmildram3032
    @dougmildram3032 Год назад +121

    Insane? Maybe worth that as a compliment. Auto rev on downshift sounds smart (saving driver from a double clutch move, where you gas up in neutral with clutch up/engaged, to match revs before depressing clutch again, saving you from excess wear on synchros along with clutch wear when you release/engage). Then again, its another feature to fail someday? And/or another skill that folks won't have to learn? Still, anything that keeps the manual transmission popular and available is an old school plus. Thanks for the info.

    • @duckdestroyer2412
      @duckdestroyer2412 Год назад +5

      I mean, a few other manufacturers use rev matching. Honda and Ford, I know, do. But I am sure there are more.

    • @brarautorepairs
      @brarautorepairs Год назад +33

      Who is double clutching on a fully synchronized transmission? It's not a semi 🚛 that carrying 60,000 lbs that needs to be double clutched. Also, what wear are you going to have on the synchros? You just need to shift slowly into each gear to help speed up the gear to match the speed of the output shaft. The clutch takes most of the force when you don't rev match on a downshift.

    • @TA_Plus_Hemi
      @TA_Plus_Hemi Год назад +6

      ​@@brarautorepairs far more power shifters then double clutchers

    • @brarautorepairs
      @brarautorepairs Год назад +15

      @@TA_Plus_Hemi I never power shifted any transmission. It's not worth the 0.1 seconds you gain on a passenger car. All my cars clutches lasted forever. I had to do one replacement because the pressure plate had broken a spring but that was because I let my brother drive it.

    • @TA_Plus_Hemi
      @TA_Plus_Hemi Год назад +7

      @@brarautorepairs I totally agree with you. I don't race but I do pull away from stoplights exuberantly and whatnot sometimes. No reason to even attempt a power shift unless you're on the strip but there are cars that are coming with no lift shift capabilities, like the Camaro, and rev-match downshift. So in the long run I would be willing to bet there are a lot more power shifters than there are double clutchers
      Edit: I'm probably also talking about 1% or less of all Camaros in the correct year range.

  • @don2deliver
    @don2deliver Год назад +6

    A simple hill hold was available on some horse carriages. In 1936 Studebaker had a hill hold feature. It returned in 1980 with Subaru.

  • @Melvin_RongDong
    @Melvin_RongDong 4 месяца назад +1

    Just learn your bite point for your clutch, you can feel it in your foot, I just tried it one day on a hill and did no roll back, foot on the brake, slowly let out clutch to bite point, foot off clutch keeps it from rolling back, lil gas let off clutch and away you go, but hey maybe its trickier on some cars

  • @a1e20
    @a1e20 Год назад +11

    Question: is that an option you have to go to the dealer for if you want a Corolla built with one? The Toyota website doesn't allow you to build one with a manual. They all only have the CVT. I'm a truck driver and I'd like to keep consistency with my transmissions. I'm tired of driving an automatic.

    • @CortMarshal
      @CortMarshal Год назад +2

      No more manual Corolla in US. They discontinued it after 2022

    • @a1e20
      @a1e20 Год назад

      @@CortMarshal Well that sucks. I guess I'll have to go with another manufacturer for my compact car manual fix.

    • @brandonscoolvideos
      @brandonscoolvideos Год назад

      @@a1e20 Nissan versa still offers it.

    • @6lemans10
      @6lemans10 Год назад

      I drive a 10 speed straight gear manual transmission tractor trailer.

  • @FennixGamingYT
    @FennixGamingYT Год назад +16

    Hey, Studebaker had that brake hold feature back in the 50’s 🤣

  • @adawg3032
    @adawg3032 Год назад +332

    If you want to never have your car stolen just drive a manual

    • @JK-tn6sx
      @JK-tn6sx Год назад +92

      Only in America💀💀💀

    • @Ceph_Bluejay9
      @Ceph_Bluejay9 Год назад +15

      Yeah now reverse that for Britain
      I had to explain to my dad how to use a semi automatic transmission I don’t even drive I’m 14!

    • @dxno7275
      @dxno7275 Год назад +9

      Only america fr fr

    • @OutOfPocket-h9e
      @OutOfPocket-h9e Год назад +10

      Yeah that don't work here in Australia

    • @oldschooldude8370
      @oldschooldude8370 Год назад +7

      That only applies to young americans.

  • @J.M.Savage
    @J.M.Savage 4 месяца назад

    I had a 2019 manual jetta. Loved it. The only thing i hated was the auto hold for hill starts and i couldnt turn it off

  • @pyro_69
    @pyro_69 Год назад +456

    Can Americans not drive manual or something?

    • @sconartist
      @sconartist Год назад +119

      Sadly for the most part no…

    • @bshinn4884
      @bshinn4884 Год назад +64

      I mean pretty much. Older gens can usually. Gets less common the younger the age group becomes. MTs are just not near as common as Autos, and usually the only places MTs are desired are in sport and offroad applications

    • @jorgemarquez8288
      @jorgemarquez8288 Год назад +13

      I can’t I drive automatic. Although gonna make it a goal to drive manual one day.

    • @SavageXD9
      @SavageXD9 Год назад +10

      I’m 25 and I’ve owned 3 different vehicles so far, all being manual.

    • @diegomontoya7004
      @diegomontoya7004 Год назад +36

      @@SavageXD9 once you go manual there’s no other alternative

  • @stonemove4207
    @stonemove4207 Год назад +51

    Seeing modern 2023 manual transmission warms my heart❤

    • @b.w.9392
      @b.w.9392 Год назад +2

      its not that modern though, the nissan 370z also has that function on the manual. and most cars with an electric ebrake have a hold function as well where it disengages when you drive off

    • @Kit_Bear
      @Kit_Bear Год назад +2

      Only in America would someone say this.

  • @miroslavorlovic2616
    @miroslavorlovic2616 Год назад +597

    These things only Americans need.

    • @Kit_Bear
      @Kit_Bear Год назад +9

      Oh you know it!. Can't live without a manual personally.

    • @boost331
      @boost331 Год назад +20

      I cant help but laugh at people who drive manuals like this. Even the hyundai Ns and civic type Rs. With their driving assist features like auto rev match most of them are horrible at driving manual. If you need these features, just know its like puting the side bumpers up at the bowling alley.

    • @infernoking7504
      @infernoking7504 Год назад +9

      Alot of americans use to only drive manuals theres not many left today and many are not willing to learn

    • @VAspeed3
      @VAspeed3 Год назад +3

      I don't need it, but my 10 year old Focus ST has everything he mentioned except the auto rev match, which I don't need because I'm an expert at toe/heel revmatch.

    • @misaplays3322
      @misaplays3322 Год назад +3

      I've driven everything from tractors to straight cut gear 4 speeds and 3 on the tree and new mustangs and focus st these things aren't a requirement just nice to have. like ac or heated seats

  • @BakedSalmonela
    @BakedSalmonela 3 месяца назад +1

    Made for americans 100%, auto hold is old af, nice to have tho, since every non-ancient manual has a synchro you can just downshift while releasing the clutch slowly, it bites a bit, then just wait a sec or less and it auto revs the car, so the rev match stuff isnt really necessary for non sport cars

  • @simonbeech6073
    @simonbeech6073 Год назад +23

    Toyota solves two problems that were actually not problems.

    • @swamp-yankee
      @swamp-yankee Год назад

      Yep, id rather run my 02 with a real manual

    • @BeesKneesBenjamin
      @BeesKneesBenjamin Год назад

      "real" lol

    • @bldontmatter5319
      @bldontmatter5319 Год назад +1

      ​@@BeesKneesBenjamin yeah, a manual where it doesn't do 99% of the actual work for you.

    • @Chimera6297
      @Chimera6297 Год назад

      @@bldontmatter5319 you know you can disable those features, right? They are useful for beginners and probably makes it a little less annoying to drive in traffic, I really don't see how that's a bad thing. At least it's not a slushbox.

    • @malariaa0293
      @malariaa0293 Год назад

      ​@@bldontmatter5319 amerimutts bragging about knowing how to drive stick when the rest of the world mainly drives MTs will forever be funny

  • @anastasiskanidis1925
    @anastasiskanidis1925 Год назад +5

    No way it rev matches by itself, that's so amazing. I'm a manual guy and I know it's not traditional, but it's still such a cool feature.

    • @dandiegidio7729
      @dandiegidio7729 Год назад +1

      The 370z had that a long time ago

    • @anastasiskanidis1925
      @anastasiskanidis1925 Год назад

      @@dandiegidio7729why did I just learn about this 😭, thanks for letting me know dude

  • @smol_yote
    @smol_yote Год назад +15

    These are the dad features I’d honestly want it I ever bought a new manual. A big part of me wants to have fun slamming through gears, another part just wants the day to be over after driving a semi all day

    • @LanxPenzenpepper
      @LanxPenzenpepper Год назад +1

      Yeah and somehow, a lot of people thinks that all people must be like them who are extremely addicted to manuals 😂
      I get it, they're fun... But if you only have one car and you can't really choose and you're using it as daily, sometimes you just can't be bothered 😂
      If only dual transmissions were cheap 😂

  • @Ottienger
    @Ottienger 8 месяцев назад

    Idk why people think you need to rev match when downshifting with a clutch pedal. I only do it in my car if clutchless down shifting because you need to or in a rig because you need to in alot of them even if using the clutch because of the design. Otherwise in my car i just let yhe clutch out NEVER have an issue and doesnt feel jerky at all.

  • @strikelandviktor
    @strikelandviktor Год назад +140

    I know an anti roll back feature, it's called knowing your car

    • @dahorn100011
      @dahorn100011 9 месяцев назад +6

      Do Americans not get taught how to use the handbrake for a hill start. Use it until the car starts to bite, then roll away

    • @zenshy2139
      @zenshy2139 9 месяцев назад +11

      ​@@dahorn100011or just keep the right foot on the brake and let go of the clutch slowly and when it bites, take right foot off from brake and start to accelerate. Very easy.

    • @eliodecolli
      @eliodecolli 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@zenshy2139 except it might stall. Proper technique taught in driving schools is using a handbrake.

    • @xPRODIGYxGAMER
      @xPRODIGYxGAMER 9 месяцев назад

      ​​@@eliodecolli You do realize you can stall handbrake if you pull the brake too fast before letting the clutch fully engage right?
      There is ZERO difference to using handbrake vs brake. It's LITERALLY and I do mean LITERALLY the exact same principle. The same reason handbrake starts work is the same reason brake starts work.
      The only reason new learners are taught the handbrake method is because brake control is harder on a new learner vs handbrake.
      If you can heel toe effectively it makes zero difference.

    • @eliodecolli
      @eliodecolli 9 месяцев назад

      @@xPRODIGYxGAMER well that made zero sense

  • @slothymango
    @slothymango Год назад +19

    My 2012 Golf GTI did this too.

    • @DeRico1337
      @DeRico1337 Год назад

      Yeah I was about to say my 2012 Audi S4 had small of this without having to push any buttons.

  • @stanleyngobeni1291
    @stanleyngobeni1291 Год назад +190

    In South Africa our Corolla doesn't have that hold button... We know how to drive 😂😂

    • @markmcfarling
      @markmcfarling 11 месяцев назад +46

      They didn't waste 21st century tech on a 20th century country. 😂😂

    • @wyslink9354
      @wyslink9354 11 месяцев назад

      this guy "tech" lol@@markmcfarling

    • @chocoball604
      @chocoball604 11 месяцев назад

      Americans are the worst drivers 😂

    • @tyler7992
      @tyler7992 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@markmcfarlingjust say you can't drive and move on

    • @Alex462047
      @Alex462047 11 месяцев назад +23

      ​@@markmcfarling At least they aren't using technology to replace their ability to do things.