How To Safely Come Off TRT?

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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @andre.shaw91
    @andre.shaw91 Год назад +9

    This is interesting. So many other docs talk of complete shutdown on TRT, they never mention that it’s partial shutdown which is dose dependent. Good to hear a less dramatic view on it all.

  • @wte_lifts_417
    @wte_lifts_417 2 года назад +28

    Thank you doc, this was exactly the video I was looking for. I started trt (24 year old using 250mg a week, T levels were on the low end of the range with minor symptoms) about 3 months ago and recently have gotten a lot of anxiety and other psychological side effects. I’ve decided to cease use to improve my mental health and get my lifestyle factors in order to improve my test naturally before trying TRT again. I was scared of stopping without any idea of how to do it but your video helped me so much, subscribed.

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  2 года назад +2

      Glad it helped. Thanks!

    • @saulorona7012
      @saulorona7012 2 года назад +4

      Hey man how did you come off? How are you feeling I'm having a similar issue

    • @leestephen4288
      @leestephen4288 Год назад +1

      @@swintegrativewhat if you were on an HCG already? I was on 200mg a week of test C. Along with an HCG and an estrogen blocker for 7 weeks. is 200 mg too much to where is shut my LH off completely? And while everything returned back to normal quitting this cold turkey I haven’t taken anything for a week now. My hematocrit was way too high so I had to get off of it

    • @sebastianconstantin5176
      @sebastianconstantin5176 Год назад +10

      lol. you didnt start trt, you just started doing roids. replacement is when u dont produce, and 250 is no near trt dose.

    • @SuperSpiroman
      @SuperSpiroman Год назад +1

      200 a week is too much for most guys, I take 120 to 80 a week microdosing every other day with insulin needles. I'd rather start low than high. My T levels were over 1200 and free T was 330with this low dose. I know a guy that was doing 350 a week for years his was over 5000 lol. Check out more plates more dates micro dosing you learn a lot.

  • @LeadAxolotl
    @LeadAxolotl 4 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for providing these answers, I rushed into TRT without giving the lifestyle changes a real shot and was scared I had screwed myself over, this info has made me feel more confident about coming off of it to give those lifestyle changes a chance before committing myself to a lifetime of injections.

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  4 месяца назад +1

      Glad it was helpful good luck

    • @bradfowler1759
      @bradfowler1759 3 месяца назад +1

      i think i am in the same boat as you. i dont think it's helping me at all. i just need to workout daily. the motivation isn't really there so i will have to discipline myself. it seems like biologically, we have the tools to benefit from the gains of testosterone naturally, not injecting it. are we thinking the same thing?

    • @briansylvester9982
      @briansylvester9982 3 месяца назад

      I got on trt after 2 years of lifting and getting lifestyle in check. TRT does wonders but the lifestyle must be in check. Little to no drinking and whole foods that aren't processed. ​@@bradfowler1759

  • @romanmerino1
    @romanmerino1 4 месяца назад +6

    I feel like everything you said.... Is exactly what everyone wants to know... But doesn't know where to find the information, for whatever reason. Love your videos and couldn't thank you enough for the valuable and very pertinent information!

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  4 месяца назад +1

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @Jimii89
      @Jimii89 4 месяца назад

      Agree I thought it was really helpful

    • @satisfactory3368
      @satisfactory3368 3 месяца назад +2

      Yeah cause most the clinics wont tell u this they ramp on how ull need for life (which can be true) but most clinics out to keep getting money from u

    • @Jimii89
      @Jimii89 3 месяца назад

      @@satisfactory3368 so true. Shocking

    • @mind2bodytv308
      @mind2bodytv308 2 месяца назад

      Great info, I see a lot of people on TRT but do not make any videos of how to come off if one decided too! Even andrew huberman claims to be on for a year, but not one video of how he came off, which in his line of work i guess would be beneficial( if he did come off)😅😅😅

  • @Super0343
    @Super0343 Год назад +6

    Taking Clomid for about 3 months can resolve it , it helped me a lot my T levels was 152 and i started taking clomid now my levels are near 500 and now i am again starting clomid i hope i will break the levels of 500 ,wish me good luck

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад

      Good luck!

    • @ericpena7347
      @ericpena7347 Месяц назад

      How long of a break did you take after 3 months of clomid. That is exactly where I am at.. the 3 month level

  • @joediffy
    @joediffy Год назад +3

    Wow best advice I've gotten, my doctor just put me on TRT and I got almost nothing out of it, now I'm feel bad, it seems to be doing the opposite of what TRT is supposed to be doing and my doctor is clueless! I need a specialist to help me with this issue.

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад +1

      Glad it helped

    • @Rog-Nature-vs-Nurture
      @Rog-Nature-vs-Nurture 3 месяца назад

      Hi. Hope you are better. May I ask how long time you used TRT? I am about to try but have thougts.

    • @joediffy
      @joediffy 3 месяца назад

      @@Rog-Nature-vs-Nurture I gave up on it, but I was on it for about 4 months. It seemed to help a bit at first but as time went on I felt no benefit so I stopped. Please don't let my experience stop you from trying it, many men get a huge benefit from it, we are all different. Make sure you get your estrogen levels check regularly because if it gets to high, you could develop a gynecomastia. If this happens, your doctor will need to prescribe an estrogen blockers. Let me know if you have any other questions. I really don't have that much experience but I'll help you all that I can. Take care.

  • @FD_and_B
    @FD_and_B Год назад +45

    You can tell he’s legit because he’s wearing a shirt

    • @jaredzimmy
      @jaredzimmy Год назад +4

      Legit because legit he is

    • @wakeup3987
      @wakeup3987 Год назад +2

      He looks healthy 😂

    • @gladiation6615
      @gladiation6615 Год назад

      He is wearing scrubs actually

    • @Swole_Geek
      @Swole_Geek 10 месяцев назад

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Naveed-it6wf
      @Naveed-it6wf 9 месяцев назад

      Not cos of shirt but cos he looks tired.. Must be busy and honest

  • @Dreamhawke
    @Dreamhawke 2 года назад +5

    Thank you SO much for this video. This is the realistic perspective I was looking for.

  • @Zakktera
    @Zakktera Год назад +1

    I guess i can see if somebody was having a medical condition contributed from trt to need to stop it. I couldn't imagine taking myself off of it. It literally saved my life.

  • @ForsakenGod23
    @ForsakenGod23 3 месяца назад

    This video reassured me so much, I can't say how thankful I am doc 🙏🏻

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  3 месяца назад +1

      thank you and glad it was helpful.

  • @fooloco
    @fooloco 2 года назад +16

    Thank you for the video. I’m 34 and have considered getting off TRT mainly because it’s been a struggle to keep the estrogen in check and also because I figured I had hypogonadism(total T was 200 when I started) but it could’ve been stress, outside environmental things with where I was at, at that time in my life( I’m type1 diabetic). I wish I had looked into why my levels were so low instead of jumping right onto TRT. I have been on it for 3 years but really I just want to see if I could get back to where I was before I needed TRT. I’d definitely want to get back on it later on in life like after my 40’s, I think it’s great for those cases, but for now, I’d like to see if I could get back to decent levels being natty while having a solid diet and workout plan.

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  2 года назад +2

      Good plan and cortisol is definitely contributing factor to secondary hypogonadism.

    • @paulwhiting8089
      @paulwhiting8089 2 года назад

      Did you get off ?

    • @DozertheBravo
      @DozertheBravo Год назад +2

      Bro im 34 as well and I'm wondering if I should do the same. Don't get me wrong I don't regret starting trt, but I started to notice too much acne on my chest and on top of law's currently changing, plus the fucking cost to do this shit legally... i figure i need to fix all these other things around my life and be more strict with my dieting and health and stop smoking weed and jump back on when I'm older. And go the rout of peptides

    • @tadehpetrossian5698
      @tadehpetrossian5698 Год назад

      I have been on Testosterone replacement therapy for a little over two months and I noticed that I have acne on my chest back and neck. But mainly on my neck. My question is what is the best way to get off Testosterone replacement therapy because my estrogen level has gone up. Before when I started Testosterone my estrogen was at 18 and now my estrogen level is at 43. How can I bring my estrogen level down to 20 to 30 while being on Testosterone replacement therapy?

    • @DozertheBravo
      @DozertheBravo Год назад

      I started micro dosing pinning with insulin needles .07 daily. My acne is under control 💪🏼 eliminate the peaks the valleys

  • @arshavin85
    @arshavin85 Год назад +2

    Thank you for the information. Unfortunately I can't afford HCG right now and only have access to some Nolvadex which I'm going to use for minimalist PCT and hope for the best.

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад

      Best of luck!

    • @heveyweightheveyweight5399
      @heveyweightheveyweight5399 Год назад

      Dont play games with this you need hcg nova is just gona block estrogen not raise naty levels . You need to change your priortys

  • @ryankingsley4801
    @ryankingsley4801 Год назад +1

    I am on TRT one year (age 29). I have been on keto all year and lost 27kg.. soon to be 30kg of fat. (120kg to 94kg as of now 5’10)
    I have very low Testosterone… should I stop TRT and see if my levels return to a normal level? Above what I was when I was 30kg heavier?

  • @georgejacob9715
    @georgejacob9715 Год назад +1

    What is your opinion about using 2x times per week 250iu of HCG while you are in TRT? Thank you for the educational video!

  • @judoguy33
    @judoguy33 Год назад

    Great information. Thank you for explaining it so clearly and comparing it to a dimmer switch rather than an on/off switch. Fantastic analogy! You got a sub from me just because of that

  • @necessaryJustice_4all
    @necessaryJustice_4all Год назад +1

    What about the use of an AI to come off trt? I remembering hearing something about using an AI (no hcg or Clomid) to come off trt. Is that bogus? I think some RUclipsr suggested it.
    I’ve been on trt for about 4 years. It’s helped in different ways, but, I’ve never been able to get estrogen under control. Ever. And I don’t tolerate the addition of an AI to trt,so it’s a lose lose. I want to come off. I’d be willing to use the AI if it helped stimulate production of testosterone. (For a small period) Thanks! Great video. 🙏🏻

  • @Jojo-o6o6w
    @Jojo-o6o6w 10 месяцев назад +1

    Just what I needed.. thanks Doc. I went carnivore (and some fruit) after starting TRT 3 years ago. Now Im seeing a bunch of older guys like me going carnivore and cleaning up their diets/lives and their testosterone is coming back.. Im assuming because of the high LDL. Im going to come off TRT and see what I can make on my own now at 54. My nads also shrank by 50% so itd be nice if they returned to my reg size as well.

  • @mazensworld1014
    @mazensworld1014 2 года назад +6

    Please make more videos like this. A lot of guys I’m the same Situation like me with no answers. I’m 26 and been on trt for a year. I never even ended trt in the first place but tricked myself into thinking I needed it. Test levels before I got on before was at high 500’s. Started at 200mg a week and now dropping to 100 a week. Took HCG on and off and now I’m taking it constantly with trt at 500 iu HCG a week with 100 trt. Should I continue my weed off cycle? It’s only been 1 week at 100 a week. I have a new job and am unsure how bad the crash is going to be.

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  2 года назад +2

      For most people it is not as bad s they expect it to be. I will make another video on this.

    • @radatabass
      @radatabass 2 года назад +4

      @@swintegrative my crash was horrible. Worse than any withdrawals I’ve ever had.
      Due to that crash I came off with HCG and Enclomaphene which was completely painless.

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  2 года назад +1

      @@radatabass Good for you, thanks for sharing.

    • @paulwhiting8089
      @paulwhiting8089 2 года назад +2

      @@radatabass I'm facing that crash now, 4 weeks ago it's horrendous the experience

    • @radatabass
      @radatabass 2 года назад +1

      @@paulwhiting8089 ya man. Some people have reported it worse than opioid withdrawal. I️ had psychosis from it and literally thought I️ was going crazy. I️ feel for you. Hang it there you’re probably almost over the hump.

  • @gettingfitat5015
    @gettingfitat5015 Год назад +2

    first off: Thank you for this video!! Very informative. Secondly: rather that give a long story, will coming off TRT shrink your prostate (if it's been enlarged by the testosterone)?

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад +2

      Probably yes. I would expect the psa to drop which is a proxy for prostate size.

  • @drjohnashfield3915
    @drjohnashfield3915 Месяц назад +1

    Have stopped TRT after 6 years, but am having some issues of poor urine flow now. How long will this withdrawal effect take to resolve? It's very worrying!

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Месяц назад +1

      Not sure that is related to stopping trt but can last 2-6 months

  • @johnmontana18
    @johnmontana18 Год назад

    I would like to know how to restart TRT after stopping totally due to a pulmonary embolism. 5 weeks since the clots and seeing the very low T symptoms.

  • @frusciantegeartone
    @frusciantegeartone 2 месяца назад +1

    What if I had low LH and FSH to begin with? Never used any steroids or peds but pituitary gland didn’t function properly? Would hcg help?

  • @mrrealessexxlifex2632
    @mrrealessexxlifex2632 Год назад +2

    Hi doc , I’ve been taking sustanon 250 mg per week for 4 years now and looking to completely come off, would you recommend HCG for 4/6 weeks then clomid ?
    Thanks

    • @iamthefiremanjj
      @iamthefiremanjj Год назад

      Enclomid made me feel horrible by the way absolutely terrrible

  • @iamthefiremanjj
    @iamthefiremanjj Год назад

    When do you notice testes size getting bigger ? After one week on the HCG? Or what I’m doing 3-4 weeks pct with higher dose HCG and 25mg enclomid

  • @judahniknam5957
    @judahniknam5957 2 года назад +1

    24 years old with total test at 82 and Free test at 4. I’m thinking of going on trt for the overall benefits, but I’m concerned about coming off. I want to roll with it, but I just don’t want to screw my self up naturally or if I make some “gains” I don’t want to lose that either.

    • @tongpoo8985
      @tongpoo8985 Год назад +1

      82 is insanely low you should get on it. Are you taking any opioids or steroids in the past or are your levels just like that naturally?

    • @neilwattoo
      @neilwattoo Год назад +1

      If you want kids, don't ever get on.

    • @togrulahmadov4917
      @togrulahmadov4917 Год назад +1

      Your profile picture doesn’t say that tho. You might ve abused the hell of steroids and didn’t do good PCT protocol. 😅

    • @thehomefront1905
      @thehomefront1905 10 месяцев назад

      If it's that low, there's a reason for it. Are you on drugs? Opioids lower the test massively

  • @joshuaharper4439
    @joshuaharper4439 Год назад +1

    Currently, my doctor has me on 2500. I use three times a week for the next five months. Is that normal? What will that do? How will that help? I should say thanks I forgot to mention that’s HCG

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад

      That is a higher dose but it will stimulate testes to make spermatozoa and testosterone.

  • @mattlofty5884
    @mattlofty5884 Год назад +3

    I came off trt 4 months ago cold turkey, my hormones are all Back to good levels however my LH is still elevated , I’m assuming this will start coming down into normal range soon as my testicles are clearly working

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад +2

      Yes it should.

    • @endofd-d7c
      @endofd-d7c Год назад

      How long was u on trt and what dose

    • @mattlofty5884
      @mattlofty5884 Год назад

      @@endofd-d7c
      200mg a week for 2 months only.
      In hindsight I wish I started low , I’d probably still be on trt

  • @chrisg.5585
    @chrisg.5585 11 месяцев назад

    43 years old. Was only on trt for 3-4 months. Caused cystic acne and I made the decision to jump off and used a pct protocol of weaning shots to nothing 3 1/2 weeks ago , then took clomid and tamoxifen. Kinda feel like shit. When will I get to baseline feeling of normal??? Thanks

  • @TheMatrixgod
    @TheMatrixgod Год назад

    i use to be on patches i beleive 2m i think,was on it like 4 months but then stopped as i didnt feel anything but always thought if it made my levels worst

  • @tacticalribeye9583
    @tacticalribeye9583 Год назад +2

    What are the long term effects of trt? I've been taking for over a year, 180 cc a week due to levels being 275 at the age of 34. I have no plans on wanting to stop any time soon as i feel great. However, I need to donate blood to reduce red blood cells every 6-8 weeks. Is this normal? Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.

    • @manoo422
      @manoo422 Год назад

      Why do you think you need to give blood? What is your hematocrit?

    • @tacticalribeye9583
      @tacticalribeye9583 Год назад

      @@manoo422 to many red blood cells.

  • @iamthefiremanjj
    @iamthefiremanjj Год назад

    I did hcg for two weeks after getting off at 500 IU per day and 25 mg enclomid it helped with symptoms but my blood work is still absolute shit . I started 2 weeks after my last test prop shot and felt good for 2 weeks and now it’s weird . Hopping I start feeling better in a few weeks . I kept all my gains tho like still looking like a savage beasts

  • @michaelcerbone389
    @michaelcerbone389 3 месяца назад +1

    I was on 160 mg of test cyp. Wanna try for a kid.. sperm count was low but not gone dropped to 100 mg test.. while taking clomid 50 mg and 1500 units hcg 3x a week.. for about a month.. decided to stop test all together a week ago.. you think soon i will be more fertility or am i still looking at that 3 month mark? Thank you so much , your video's are very informative.. just what i was looking for.

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  3 месяца назад +1

      More yes hard to say how much more. Just had someone have normal sperm count despite being on TRT (and no hcg) last week so it is possible.

    • @michaelcerbone389
      @michaelcerbone389 3 месяца назад

      @swintegrative thank you I started taking zinc as well and also a natural test booster with tongkat ali , ashwaghanda etc.. hopefully it helps.. cant wait to go back on.. 😩

  • @YourLifeRedefined
    @YourLifeRedefined Год назад +1

    Thank you for this video

  • @joshuaharper4439
    @joshuaharper4439 Год назад +1

    Also, is it normal for your blood pressure to be high and also be hot quite a bit when normally you’re cold a lot can it also cause breathing issues lately my breathing has been a little bit harder when I’m taking the hCG

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад

      Estrogen can go up with HCG use and has been known to cause hot flashes. Sounds like these r things to discuss w your doctor

  • @alejandroga366
    @alejandroga366 Год назад

    Hey doc I been on TRT for 2 I'm thinking of stoping cause it's causing smatch problems for me do I need pct or I just stop an also how long untill I go back to normal

  • @michaelnorth9526
    @michaelnorth9526 2 года назад +1

    Is it fine to be on hcg the entire year along with testosterone replacement therapy? Would being on hcg as well affect anything when coming off of both?

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  2 года назад +1

      I usually have people take 2 week breaks every few mo but I think most clinics do it continuously.

  • @ForsakenGod23
    @ForsakenGod23 3 месяца назад

    Some people in forums say that if you stop you should expect to feel like hell for up to 6 months, why that long ? (Assuming the person had normal levels before)

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  3 месяца назад

      that is the not how it works for everyone. Yes some people do feel worse for a few weeks or a few months. 6 mo is longer than i would expect and likley these people felt this way proir to starting so they just feel bad again. Everyone is different and there are so many different situations that can occur.

  • @mattjames5858
    @mattjames5858 2 года назад +4

    How safe is HCG? I have some in my fridge but I have been hesitant to inject it. I have been on TRT for a year I’m thinking about getting off and started the HCG cycle to get everything firing on all cylinders again.

  • @megiMove
    @megiMove 2 года назад +1

    Could you give us a dose of clomid after trying coming of trt ? I cant get hcg here. But, clomid i do. If you have some form of dosages and length.. please tell ?

    • @ShepherdMinistry
      @ShepherdMinistry Год назад

      Look up Dr Scally Power PCT.
      Day 1-20 : 2000iu HCG every other day.
Day 1-30 : Nolva 40mg/day (20mg was taken twice per day) ; Clomid 100mg/day (50mg was taken twice per day)
Day 31-45 : Nolva 40mg/day (20mg was taken twice per day)
      Some do lower amounts of hcg. A few Doctors state you don’t need more than 500iu per day but I believe this all comes down to many factors.
      Please consult a dr for their recommendation on this protocol. This is just info I know from research, but a DR should be the one telling you what you should do.

  • @giannisgiannaros489
    @giannisgiannaros489 Год назад +2

    I dont understand very good English can we use only clomid without hcg?

  • @henry1343
    @henry1343 Месяц назад +1

    My level is 183.4 if i start trt for 3 to 4 months. When i come off will it go back to 183.4?

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Месяц назад

      It’s not the same for everyone. My experience short term use of TRT you will return to baseline after stopping. If it was short term more likely.

  • @shakapower1
    @shakapower1 Год назад +1

    Does the same thing happen if you taking orals only?

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад +1

      I would assume so but I don’t use those

    • @shakapower1
      @shakapower1 Год назад

      @Southwest Integrative Medicine what is your thoughts on the multi easter test 400mg vs single easter test 300?

  • @sakibc1787
    @sakibc1787 Год назад +1

    Coming off TRT doctor is saying to take HCG and clomid every other day for 8 weeks? Isn't that too much ? should I take HCG and Clomid both ? or one or the other ? Please somebody advice.

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад

      I can’t say if it is too much for you but it does sound like a lot.

  • @davidharden7575
    @davidharden7575 Год назад +2

    Thanks for the info. I started TRT 4 weeks ago. I'm 46 and i feel amazing but i am terrified about the idea of coming off it. I don't believe i want to live on it for the rest of my life. I am going in for my first blood work (next week) since starting April 14 and will talk to him about HCG and how to restart my system. My testicles have already shrunk. I got on TRT because i was dealing with exhaustion and my weight has crept up to 270. I am 6 foot 5 but I was a marathon runner and did triathlons in my 20's and 30's and i haven't been able to figure out how to get back into shape. In 1 month i've already lost 20 lbs and i'm training like i did in my 20's . Im still afraid of long term side effects.

    • @ruinerfixxxer
      @ruinerfixxxer Год назад +3

      Same age here. Been on trt for about a year on a low dose (1ml) every two weeks. For the past month, I've been on .7ml every week. I feel a lot better. No fatigue, depression, etc. I don't like the idea of being on something for the rest of my life, but I'm not going back to my old life before taking try. I was in a quagmire mentally and physically.

    • @The_Burning_Sensation
      @The_Burning_Sensation Год назад

      @@ruinerfixxxer Glad you're feeling better. :D

  • @GJ-DT
    @GJ-DT Год назад +3

    If you quit trt cold turkey instead of tapering off does it take longer for the estrogen to come down than the testosterone, and if so how much longer does it take for the estrogen to lessen or come down after the testosterone crashes. Thankx.

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад +1

      There is another video where I talk about this and has to do with the fish and lh levels… about 2-3 weeks longer

  • @michaelurukalo4657
    @michaelurukalo4657 Год назад +1

    Im 30 been on trt for 3 years testosterone cypiomate will i be okay?

    • @wonderingelf-p6x
      @wonderingelf-p6x Месяц назад

      If you research how to come off using clomid and HCG you will be alright man, slow and steady don't cold turkey it

  • @bradfowler1759
    @bradfowler1759 3 месяца назад +1

    i have been on it over 4 years now. i do not think it does anything for me. i think it's caused me to gain weight, some muscle, but it's also made my low back issues worse, exposing my weak core. diminishing returns... i don't see a point in continuing it. i just need to consistently work out. not worried about my libido, just being able to look down and see my penis again would be great. thoughts?

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  3 месяца назад

      Sounds like u know what to do. Hard to say though without knowing all the health details. Testosterone can be very helpful for motivation and muscle growth when in range and balanced with other hormones but it’s not magic. You have to put in the work ( not to say u are not). The effort u needed at 25 will not work the same at 45 though. Good luck

  • @therighttruth8702
    @therighttruth8702 Год назад +2

    Can low T cause insomnia

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад

      Raising testosterone seems to help some people with low T

  • @Thepainwall
    @Thepainwall 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video doc. I’m scared of coming off of testosterone as being a body builder I was taking 2cc a week for almost a year. I’ve been having heart palpitations and chest pains that are very new. I came off of it cold turkey a few months ago and crashed super hard. I thought I was dying. My body was freaking out. And not I’m pinning .5 cc twice a week. Trying to stop taking it and I’m just scared of the crash again and that it might hurt my heart.

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  2 года назад +2

      Why would stopping testosterone do something to your heart?

    • @warrenb8228
      @warrenb8228 Год назад

      Cocaine destroys the heart muscles, which is amazing considering the density of the muscle cells.

    • @jonathanartiga5320
      @jonathanartiga5320 Год назад +1

      When I’ve tried stopping testosterone i get those same symptoms, i would believe you should know this information Doc. Chest pain and heart palpitations with high blood pressure are symptoms of low T. Does it cause heart problems??? Who knows, but those of us who have experienced those symptoms sure do feel like it could cause heart problems. Heavy breathing, fatigue and palpitations make us feel that way.

    • @heveyweightheveyweight5399
      @heveyweightheveyweight5399 Год назад

      Sound like your shit was cut

    • @onlyonecannoli3952
      @onlyonecannoli3952 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@swintegrativeMaybe he's just heartbroken cause he's not seeing Testosterone anymore... didn't think of that did ya Mr. smarty pants doc?

  • @Engineer_GM_Ford_Chrysler
    @Engineer_GM_Ford_Chrysler 2 года назад

    So your saying you really don't need PCT coming off Test if your a healthy individual? And HCG is a good boost to get things up and running quickly? Is Tapering a good way for your natural production to come back? When tapering down, does your natural production begin to make up the difference in lack of injected Test? Or will your natural production just completely stop when your body knows its getting it from TRT or will there still be natural production if your taking a very low dose? I guess I am trying to understand if taking test will change your level of natural production rather than just completely shutting down. Im 51 and beginning feeling the symptoms of what I think is just getting older. I want to bring some of that energy, muscle back and thinking of TRT, but want to know if I can come off easily after trying it for a year or two. Thank you!

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  2 года назад

      If you are on a small enough dose, you will still produce LH. If you have LH, you still have internal production. How much idk.

  • @damonsmith1049
    @damonsmith1049 Год назад

    Out of curiosity, would a cold reboot of TRT be a good idea? My hematocrit, hemoglobin and RBC went high after about 7 months on 200mg/week then backed down to 140 for a few weeks.
    I'm thinking of giving my body a few months off then starting again around 120-140 mg/week in hopes it doesn't raise my blood again.

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад +1

      Lowering your dose sometimes does the trick.

    • @damonsmith1049
      @damonsmith1049 Год назад

      @@swintegrative thanks for the input! I was experiencing light headedness, tingling in arms and hands, and my blood pressure was a bit higher for me. Not out of control but 125/65 - 130/70 when I was normally 115/70 or better. Interestingly my fasting glucose was always about 103-106 which I attributed to the ratio of blood being off from the thickness of it. Was always 90 or below.
      Been off for 7 days now feel ok waiting for the inevitable symptoms.

  • @leestephen4288
    @leestephen4288 Год назад

    Question. I was on 200mg a week of test C. Along with an HCG and an estrogen blocker for 7 weeks. is 200 mg too much to where is shut my LH off completely? And while everything returned back to normal quitting this cold turkey I haven’t taken anything for a week now. My hematocrit was way too high so I had to get off of it

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад

      200mg per week would likely reduce lh and fish to zero.

  • @sh4094
    @sh4094 2 года назад +1

    New sub here. Quick question doc, would someone need to take a PCT after stopping TRT after only 4 weeks of taking 150mg (Cyp 75mg twice a week) ?

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  2 года назад +2

      Hard to say for sure as it is not “needed” anyway. It just helps ease the landing. Given the short duration it probably would be overkill.

    • @cocaine_hookers
      @cocaine_hookers 2 года назад +1

      After 4 weeks no you’ll be fine.

    • @Jimiinphinity317
      @Jimiinphinity317 Год назад

      Why would you stop on the week when it's actually just kicking in? No point in taking any AAS for that short of a period. Not even worth it

  • @skinfiddler
    @skinfiddler Год назад

    I'd rather not quit TRT because I haven't felt this great in memory. I have to come off of it though because high PSA (14) and will be undergoing biopsy(s?)/ treatment in the future. I'm 71 and tried HCG previously and it made me feel like crap. Would Clomid be a reasonable substitute or other??

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад +1

      With psa of 14 you just focus on that

    • @yordy59
      @yordy59 Год назад

      Don’t take clomid it’s the worst

  • @iamthefiremanjj
    @iamthefiremanjj 11 месяцев назад

    lol I got gyno quitting TRT cold Turkey 5 weeks after my prop shot got a painful lump in left nipple gonna go get blood work because I should be good now did enclomid 25mg a day and 500 IU hcg for 3 weeks

    • @overnightavenger1470
      @overnightavenger1470 2 месяца назад

      You do cold turkey or the last part you said? Or you went in after to get hcg and enclomaphine?

    • @iamthefiremanjj
      @iamthefiremanjj 2 месяца назад

      @@overnightavenger1470 I tapered thrn did enclomid for 3 weeks

  • @sammyquintana6156
    @sammyquintana6156 Месяц назад +1

    Im off cold turkey after 6 months of 80 a week, its too expensive w blood tests and cyp at a clinic,not much gain in my experience, gained 10 unwanted lbs of water wt even w working out at times twice a day. My opinion. Peace

  • @Rboling4199
    @Rboling4199 Год назад

    I was on TRT for about 2 months, decided to get off cold turkey, a few weeks later I have thee worst depression /anxiety/insomnia, so I got back on it, been about 3 weeks now and symptoms are still here.
    Want to get off all together, what pct would you recommend? Please help

    • @Rboling4199
      @Rboling4199 Год назад

      @@ShepherdMinistry Ty brother

    • @manoo422
      @manoo422 Год назад

      2 months on, a few weeks off, 3 weeks on....sounds like you need to make you mind up, you are neither on or off!!

  • @harryide4063
    @harryide4063 Год назад +2

    Iv been on a pretty strong dosage of test c for about 20 months now, starting at the age of 19. Iam now 21 and looking to come off, is it possible for my natural testosterone to come back as it was before with the right pct such as HCG and clomid. Also how long can you estimate it to come back ? It was a big mistake coming on and I regret it.

  • @daviddavid1057
    @daviddavid1057 Год назад +1

    Hello! One question: if you are already on trt and you have to do the next blood test to test your testosterone levels, is it better to stop taking supplements like multivitamins and stuff a few days before or it is not necessary and will be totally not affect your testosterone levels at all? because I hear some say it will have an effect on it! What is your opinion on this? Thanks Doc

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад +1

      Most vitamins are not going to affect it especially when u are taking exogenous sources

    • @daviddavid1057
      @daviddavid1057 Год назад

      @@swintegrative Thank you for your quick response Doc! But what about biotin interference with lab tests? Do you know anything about that?

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад +1

      @@daviddavid1057 actually biotin can skew tests but that is the only one. You have to avoid it for about 1-2 days before testing

    • @daviddavid1057
      @daviddavid1057 Год назад

      @@swintegrative When you say avoid biotin 1-2 days before the blood test, are you talking about supliment biotin or do you also have to avoid eggs for example, because the eggs also contain biotin right?! Thank you!

  • @truthsek
    @truthsek Год назад

    Hlo sir i had 1 ml trt short thn i left it do i need pct?

  • @neilwattoo
    @neilwattoo Год назад

    Man, I'm gonna attempt getting off. Been on for about a decade and my sperm count is 0 and LH and FSH also very low. Wanna try and have kids again. Didn't think I would want more until I met my lady. Got all my meds lined up to help. I'm getting back on later, for sure. But I really hope I can start producing sperm again. Heard some get pregnant after 2 and 3 months off. Heard some take a year. Some never. Scary stuff. Didn't know this would shut me down like this when put on. Gonna do a huge blast for the next 3 months, and then start to come off. Outta be fun 😭

  • @teamsafetysales5673
    @teamsafetysales5673 2 года назад

    doc, may i know how long nebido (testosterone undecanoate ) out of body completely ? it hard to find online

    • @timtrainage
      @timtrainage 12 дней назад

      That's a longer ester, but you're looking at a minimum of 6 weeks before the drug is out of your system.
      Get blood levels checked after 3 months

  • @Rickmaki
    @Rickmaki 2 года назад

    Great Video !!!

  • @user-Red5hield-exp0ser
    @user-Red5hield-exp0ser Год назад +2

    Get onto HCG and / or HMG while on the TRT. Then, lower the TRT and eventually come off as your FSH, LH, and testes grow back.. Do not just come off it!! Why this doctor is recommending to just come off it is quite bizarre. That is not an option unless you were blasting(steroid cycle) and are in your 20s... Most people on TRT are 30+. Have high SHBG and/or some sort of problem along the HPT Axis, which means they needed it in the first place anyway

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад +2

      Thanks for your feedback and input. The content of this video is based on direct experience working with patients coming off testosterone. There are many reasons people benefit from TRT and equally many reasons for it being low to begin with. This kind of nuance is not always captured when doing a video like this. That’s why it is best to discuss with your prescriber. I do find that many do not need hcg but some do. I have another video coming out soon that tries to capture a little more nuance.

  • @MichalskiTube
    @MichalskiTube Год назад

    I have been on TRT for 3 weeks had 3 doses. I want to come off and look at improving my lifestyle less alcohol and more sleep. Like I should have done before trt. Since it’s only been 3 weeks can I assume I don’t need a pct?

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Год назад +1

      Most people that are on for one month or less will have little to no issues coming off. Of course, everyone is different.

    • @MichalskiTube
      @MichalskiTube Год назад

      @@swintegrative thank you. You have a new subscriber

    • @judahlion3330
      @judahlion3330 Год назад

      ​@@MichalskiTubedid u have any issues?

    • @manoo422
      @manoo422 Год назад

      What could you possibly conclude from being on for 3 weeks!!?

    • @adeelahmed8641
      @adeelahmed8641 4 месяца назад

      Give us an update in the same boat buddy?

  • @marcosperales2550
    @marcosperales2550 2 года назад +1

    Thanks.

  • @bradfowler1759
    @bradfowler1759 3 месяца назад

    Doc - i also take anastrozole and kisspeptin... what about those? i don't wanna have DD man boobs.

  • @iamthefiremanjj
    @iamthefiremanjj Год назад +1

    I finally tapered i waited two days after last prop shot started on 400-500 IU hcg everyday until my vial runs out so that’s about 12 days . I am also using 25mg enclomid with this. Then for 6-7?more days I’ll run hcg at 800iu a day with 25mg clomid. That will be a 3 week SUPER charged pct. I think I’ll be fine was only on 87.5mg test prop a week. I actually feel so much better just on the HCG honestly
    Added 4000 IU vitamin d
    K2

  • @EvermontKing
    @EvermontKing 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for your video. Prior to trt I had 259 ng per dl and 59 free. I don't know what I am now but I've been on it for maybe 2 months taking it daily at 70 mg per week taking small daily doses with insulin needle. I'm starting to feel tired again and I've been losing erections and feeling weak. I think maybe I should get off because I don't like how I feel and I think there's probably a better way to raise my levels to acceptable like long jack or onions. I don't like how I feel at all anymore.

  • @musawir99
    @musawir99 2 года назад

    Thank you

  • @BizzyIzzy87
    @BizzyIzzy87 Год назад +2

    Thinking about this because TRT has don’t nothing to improve my sex life and only made it worse. Helped my physique but man the libido and erections 👎

    • @joeprimal2044
      @joeprimal2044 Год назад +1

      Possibly to much estrogen. Id try skipping a dose and then coming back on at a lower dose. I feel best way down at 80mg / week, but I build muscle better at higher doses. Anything over the 80 mg and I need some aromasin to knock my estrogen down. Generally speaking the older you are the more you aromatize into estrogen.

  • @dazSls13
    @dazSls13 Год назад

    People really believe this dude is a doctor

  • @1888CHAD8881
    @1888CHAD8881 Год назад

    Easiest way is to simply go on a blast cycle.

  • @Zx10ninja0104
    @Zx10ninja0104 2 года назад +1

    I don’t say this to be rude whatsoever or condescending, but it’s funny how much people will believe what is said in this video and jump on TRT, I know TRT has a ton of benefits, but the cons are significant as well. I’m no doctor but I think it’s very safe to say that testosterone injections stop your natural production of TRT which will not start again after injections. Very hard to find information with people admitting or talking about this. if you are on the fence about this I would wait until your older and would consider staying on injections 4 Eva.

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  2 года назад +4

      Hi Ernest, thanks for sharing. You mentioned "testosterone injections stop your natural production of TRT which will not start again after injections." I do not find this to be the case. On numerous patients testosterone levels do seem to come back to their pre-injection levels after stopping TRT. This seems to be the rule and not the exception in my practice. I know it is possible for production to permanently be suppressed (but not completely shut down) with long term use. After 14 yrs of practice, I have yet to see this though. I am curious if you have different information/experience.

    • @30mattdavies
      @30mattdavies Год назад +1

      Good job you’re not a dr as what you advised is completely false. Jumped on and off trt for years (8 months longest time on) and regular blood work. My test always recovers to pre levels within 4 months. Rough time for around 6 weeks after it’s out of my system, but always a gradual return.

    • @overnightavenger1470
      @overnightavenger1470 2 месяца назад

      ​@@30mattdaviesdid you use pct when on and off ?

  • @Allias1121
    @Allias1121 2 года назад

    What happens if you are not able to come off yet with the assistance of hcg or clomid?

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  2 года назад

      This would all depend on the context and the situation...what happens when you try... why you want to come off...and many other questions. A doctor's visit.

  • @Trentonn2
    @Trentonn2 Год назад +1

    only good video on this

  • @chriswoyce6285
    @chriswoyce6285 Год назад

    In my personal experience just taper off.

  • @johnthicks8568
    @johnthicks8568 Год назад

    You should never go off. What would be the point of that.

  • @paulwhiting8089
    @paulwhiting8089 2 года назад +4

    I decided to come off due to fertility problems even after taking hcg.
    My doctor said just go cold turkey and you will be fine.HOW WRONG WAS HE!
    4 weeks later I'm so emotional like I could cry at any minute
    I get anxious quite frequently.
    I'm fatigued more
    Everything is a challenge, even getting to work which always puts up my fight or flight response.
    Horrible experience

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  2 года назад +1

      Most people do bounce back but it can take 5-8 weeks… depends on your dose when you stopped.

    • @paulwhiting8089
      @paulwhiting8089 2 года назад

      @@swintegrative my dose was 0.5ml every 5 days and I was on about 16/17 months. Hopefully I've getting over the worst of it. 🤞

    • @chrisdelacruz1355
      @chrisdelacruz1355 2 года назад +2

      You may need clomid. I just had an experience like that. i know horrible!! Mine lingered for 2-3 months. And im just now atarting to feel better but i miss the motivation i had before

    • @paulwhiting8089
      @paulwhiting8089 Год назад

      @Adam Hull I got my wife pregnant and decided to go back on trt. It's been 6 weeks now and starting to feel much better. Low T is no joke that's for sure

    • @paulwhiting8089
      @paulwhiting8089 Год назад

      @Adam Hull if you do come off mate make sure you use a pct to make the transition as smooth as possible. All the best mate 👍

  • @chriswoyce6285
    @chriswoyce6285 Год назад +1

    Less is more👍🏻

  • @dragonspirit1639
    @dragonspirit1639 Месяц назад

    Your hair tells me you have been savaged by TRT.

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  Месяц назад

      Haha no not really just the typically androgenic alopecia

    • @dragonspirit1639
      @dragonspirit1639 29 дней назад

      @@swintegrative I’m sorry 😔

  • @holykhaos1337
    @holykhaos1337 2 года назад +2

    Just did my first blood hormone panel ever.
    Total Testosterone at 497 the Normal range 263-916 ng/dl
    Shbg 38.1 nmol/L normal range 16.5-55.9 nmol/l
    Testosterone Free Calc 88.4 pg/ml normal range 42.3-190.0 pg/ml
    IGF-1 Insulin-Like Growth Factor-1
    241 ng/ml normal range 95-290 ng/ml
    LH 4.1 normal range 1.8-8.6.
    Miu/ml
    Estradial 19.8 normal range 7.6-42.6 pg/ml
    TSH 2.590 Normal range 0.450-4.500 uIU/ml
    FSH 2.1 Normal range 1.5- 12.4. mIU/ml
    Need your advice brother. I have all the symptoms of low T. I'm 35 years old lifelong Natty. I normally transform my body way faster than the average person with proper food and decent sleep training hard of course. However when I stop training and eat like trash I also get out of shape just as fast. So i can work out for 12-20 weeks 5 days minimum a week and literally look like I been training for year or years. I been working overnights for the last year and not sleeping well I been training again from taking 5 months off got out of shape and now am some months into training now but this year has been weird I'm not transforming as fast. I just had my hormone panel blood test done for the first time in life would like your input on it. How do I reach out to you???

    • @swintegrative
      @swintegrative  2 года назад

      It sounds like you need an actual appointment. 480 451 5407 or email DrT@swintegrativemedicine.com

    • @drain9993
      @drain9993 2 года назад +1

      your bloods are absolutely perfect. Symptoms they use to sell TRT are vague at best. Mine was 200 when i started and even I want to get off it.

    • @crystalholdread8591
      @crystalholdread8591 2 года назад

      @@drain9993 me too. Why do you want to get off of it?

    • @danielhigdon2646
      @danielhigdon2646 Год назад

      My red blood cell profile increases. I try to donate but sometimes it is not enough. Any way to mitigate this?

    • @pixelmobbin
      @pixelmobbin Год назад

      if its HCT - I have made mine lower by lowering dose, and drinking a ton of water a day sometimes I miss and feel the sides (tired, sore hands) went from 52.5 to 50 just doing that no donating (can't - deal with thyroid - need my iron) @@danielhigdon2646