@@danielwillumsen2934 Literally every year since however long it's been after the last book ASOIAF came out fan channels are like "Here it is, WOW is finally coming!!" Meanwhile GRRM has found time to do anything else but finish his main series... Fire & Blood, working on HOTD and a bunch of spinoffs, God knows what else. I would have taken ONE REALLY GOOD GAME OF THRONES SERIES from start to finish, based on actual finished book material, over every consolation spinoff show and consolation book combined. TBH I wish he had just finished Winds and Dream instead of writing Fire & Blood. He's never gonna finish this series, people. Look at the mans' physical condition-- does that look like a healthy man to you, one that's gonna live that much longer? Listen to all the vague excuse-making in his interviews-- does that sound like a guy that has any intention at all of finishing ASOIAF to you? NO. Neither thing. So we can enjoy our fan theories all we want, but we're never getting the books. At least I held off on investing all the time in reading the series to date. I saved myself the aggravation of not getting a proper ending twice instead of just suffering the destruction of the show.
He finished Winds back in 2015, but he encountered writers block whilst drafting the announcement post and just can't figure out a way to announce it. Apparently there's like 20 million copies of the book sitting in warehouses just waiting for him to post the announcement, some of them are starting to decay.
I promise to send you some of the really good hot sauce that my sister sends me from Mexico to make all those words a little bit tastier to eat. Do you prefer roja or verde?
Under the sea, the mermaids read winds of Winter, with broken bottle spectacles. I know I know oh oh oh. Edit 24 hours later: woke up to my RUclips notification working over time because 1.2k liked my terrible joke. You all are way too kind, and have terrible taste 😜. When we live in a mad Max style post-apocalypse, we can all get together and call our faction, The Winter Dreamers.... I just hope the last book: "Delusions of Spring", doesn't take GRRM another couple decades to finish. He has said for years, that he knows how he wants his story to end. So in theory it's just a matter of getting all the pieces into place and maybe, MAYBE, it'll all fall together... I want the story done, but I do want it done right.
Here you have another reason: The rights for the Spanish publication expire and the publisher didn’t renew them (money issues). Penguin said they will not buy the rights until WOW is finish because, at the moment, it appears the rights are too expensive to be profitable. Well… guess what? Penguin published new editions of all 5 books a couple of months ago!!!! Winter is coming my friends.
I don't think it's delusional. I think we've all gotten so pained and bitter with the wait, that we're inclined to tear chunks out of anyone who still musters up hope. I also had a dream about reading it. I'm not delusional, I'm a 100% certified fortune teller
Luckily we have ppl like you @mylittlethoughttree, quinn, and fantasy haven that render the wait bearable. Thanks! Your service to the community is priceless.
Wow the fans of this series are wild. Talking about it like these people were family waiting for young men to return from war but dying before they did. The book doesn't exist yet. Just think of it that way. Sadly there are many stories in books and other media that the creator never made an ending to for whatever reason. That doesn't mean you "died waiting" for the ending.
@Zwijger guess these same people died waiting for other stuff that doesn't exist... like star wars episode 10, the Lord of the Rings sequel book, The Canterbury Tales, Half-Life 3, My name is earl season 5(?). And thousands of other properties that were never finished.
Before I clicked the video I LITERALLY thought to myself, “great more fuel for my delusions” and then Quinn starts the video by saying “I wanna preface this by saying I’m delusional” 😭
“There is a theory which states that if _The Winds of Winter_ is ever released in this Universe, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by a Universe in which it takes longer to be released. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.”
the biggest piece of evidence for me was the Duexmoi post. Duexmoi is a pop culture gossip site that mostly focuses on celebrities like singers, influencers, or actors. Basically for people like Tom Cruise or Taylor Swift. So for someone to get on there and post about Uncle George and his silly book is out of left field. People who read ASOIaF isn’t the demographic for duexmoi AT ALL. It’d be like if ESPN got news on what Scorsese’s next movie would be about.
@@FictionRaider007 As far as I know, most Deuxmoi posts are to be taken with a moderate grain of salt. So, the posts they show are all anonymous submissions that they can’t verify. So it’s definitely about George, but the source of the post could just be someone who wants to throw the fandom into defcon 2.
Quinn reads the book and finds "The Titan's Brother" written on the next page. At this point he discovered he warged into GRRM and had become a greenseer
"I remembered that, so I allowed myself to hope... perhaps I wanted to... we all deceive ourselves, when we want to believe." - George R.R. Martin, A Feast for Crows
I remember deciding to re-read the series because I thought Winds was likely to come out soon. Since then I graduated left school, graduated university and have been in work for two years. Basically, I'll believe it when i see it
I'm literally 1 minute in, and I paused the video to say this. Never let us doubters who have given up all hope steal your joy of hoping and believing! If it doesn't case you harm to believe, be a believer. If you don't end up feeling let down, keep hoping. I don't want anyone else to turn bitter about something they loved just because I have. Keep believing. Maybe even believe a little for me too! ❤
I've finished the video and honestly I hope you're right, for you and all the folks like you who still believe the last 2 books will be published. For me personally, I doubt I'll buy it even if you're right. I don't want to get invested again just to wait for the last book. Maybe if they're both finished I'll consider buying them someday.
At the end of the HOTD S2 finale, imagine the camera pans to a snowy landscape beyond the wall, a harsh wind loudly blows through the trees, and a date flashes on the screen.
In the official online promotion for season 1 of HotD, GRRM mentioned that he had written a couple of good chapters recently and was anxious to get home so he could carry on writing before he lost his good ideas. I got the impression that the positive experience of being involved with HotD inspired him. Since then I have felt positive that WoW would be soon.
You forgot to mention the meeting he had with his british publisher around 5 months ago, and he said it was about Winds, among other things. Which is a pretty big sign, maybe the biggest one yet
Honestly, I think you are 100% correct on this. As soon as I heard GRRM was going to WorldCon, this all fell into place in my head as well. It makes tremendous sense to announce the book at WorldCon (the place he originally sad he would have) and avoid interrupting any hype for House of the Dragon. He has also already had an essentially completed book (1200+ pages) for years so the timing fits in many ways. It is finally happening.
Even if he hasn't finished I hope to god that he has at least decided to release the first half (or the first 1000 - 1200 pages) of it already since the wait has been so long. It's written, just give it to us!
I have much less fear about A Dream of Spring than Winds of Winter. I think the penultimate book is always the hardest to write and most important, but once we get to where we're going, I think he'll be fine.
Man, just two days ago, on June 19, George posted a new "Words of Wisdom" entry. This time is a Roosevelt's Quote: "Far and away the best prize that life has to Offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." . So, I think you should increase the chances from 40% to 41%. It's closer!
It is true that his blogposts have had a more positive vibe recently. I think that he's at least at the point were he's resolved all difficulties and only has to fill up the remaining gaps in the manuscript. That doesn't mean we're necessarily looking at a 2024 release
I hypothesize that George is hybridizing his writing style, an architect-gardener building the hanging gardens of Babylon. I firmly believe that he has been working on the framework for dream of spring for some time. Concurrently with work on winds of winter. It is the only way he could make all the disparate plotlines come together just right.
I've had the same feeling. It would be impossible to set up the conclusion w/o having final plot lines and character arcs pretty firmly figured out. I'm thinking there will be a lot of pruning in George's Winter garden before Spring, so with luck the last book should go more quickly (and probably be more fun to write?). Or I'm delusional too.
I had a dream about a month ago I was at a party, walked into a back room, and George was chilling reading something. I asked him what he was reading and he said it was winds and I could read it if I didn’t tell anyone about it. Then I woke up and haven’t been okay since
guys i had a bonfire the other day and r'hllor talked to me and said winds of winter soon i swear we had a convo hes a chiller he let me hit his bong i promise guys
Was listening to this doing dishes and an ad with heavy breathing popped up and I was like omg is Quinn GM going to hyperventilate but nope just some horror movie trailer.
3:06 It'd actually be hilarious if he released them both at the same time like "here you go, you little shits. It's all here. Enjoy, and leave me alone." Lol
Imagine doing that in secret for 13 years just to fuck with everyone. Dude would deserve a statue after that. "Ah and here are all of the Dunk and Egg stories. I got bored."
Wish he’d drop the 2 books for the main series, Blood and Fire, and the Dunk & Egg novellas all at the same time 😭 but he’s a lazy idiot so I do not think he’s been writing either of those books, like at all
My personal pet theory (or is it wishful thinking?!) of the last few months is that GRRM will announce TWOW right after the end of season 2 of HOTD, so that they can release it this year right in time for christmas shopping. 🙂 Yes! I'm a foolish optimist!😁😁🤣🤣
i bet you the end of season 2 will have a cryptic announcement of an announcement happening at world con. Trust me i saw a fat man standing on the world slaying doubters with a black book in the flames.
I just bought the whole collection of a song of ice and fire. I’m on the first book and honestly fell in love with it. My gamble was that by the time I get done with a dance of dragons winds of winter will come out. Also when you start reading the books and enter the fandom the delusion of when the next book comes out immediately takes hold. My delusion is that he’s been done writing winds of winter and he’s secretly writing a dream of spring and release then together.
Same haha and I’ve been putting it off for years for this very reason lol. I started with fire and blood this year, finished that and Knight of Seven Kingdoms and Game of Thrones before the end of Jan but then slowed down because I realised I’d finish way before Winds came out. 3/4 of the way through Kings rn so hopefully I can somehow pace it just right for the series to carry me through until Winds is released somehow
Ah yes, this delay is a deliverate action to spite specifically _you._ Its not like he actually wants to publish the damn book and be done with the harassment. Spiting you is more important.
@@leandrocastello309 Personally, that's how I would be. Why should I make the people harassing me happy? Making the harassment stop is _way_ less important and gets less and less important as time passes. Why reward bad behavior? No one likes a nag.
You guys have a point. Barely remember the story, but there was a video game developer who made two really awesome games. People made petitions, and letters, but eventually it went to death threats. The creator of the games relented and made game number 3. The only thing that got him, was more of the same treatment until game 4 was out. Martin probably doesn't want to be in a situation, like you guys pointed out, with their behavior is rewarded, and he just gets constant threats until we get book 19 and 20 till infinity LOL
So when this was recommended to me, the video was posted 11 days ago, currently has 111k views and 1,1k comments. I'm taking this as a sign. This video must be correct. The Winds of Winter are blowing.
I'd like to add that the company that sells the German translation released a new cover design for the older books - maybe Winds will be made in that design.
I laughed so hard when I saw the title. Like legit I haven't even watched the video yet but this is actually hilarious just reading the title. Someone used statistics to conclude the average possible release date is like 2032 lol
I think Winter solstice (Dec 21 this year) is a more likely release date than Dec 17, its the darkest and shortest day of the year and ties in thematically with Winds. And its also at the peak of the holiday shopping season.
My thought process clicking on this video: "I am clicking on this video because I am delusional." Opening of this video: "I am delusional." My brain: "Ah, I'm in the right place."
When it's officially done. George will probably have every outlet be on full standby and we'd hear about it from the publishers. Someone would spoil it.
I have an even more conspiracy-brain theory: So, the man has said before that he hates the whole process of people waiting on his books. He's a slow writer but he was never this slow until this book. I think in GRRM's perfect world he finishes the series as soon as possible so that he has time to just enjoy the celebrity his creation has brought while one of the shows is still in the public eye. Now, think about what would happen if he published Winds of Winter. People would be overjoyed, it would be huge news and fans would spend a short while reading it and a little while longer talking about it...and then in a couple months we'd be back to waiting for the next book and he'd start getting questions about it again. Only, it would be much worse than it is right now because right now he's faded into the background somewhat as so many have basically given up on the series ever being completed. In short, if he released the next book, the scrutiny he'd be under would intensify and we know he hates that. Let's look at some time gaps now. AGoT: 8/1/96. ACoK: 11/16/98. ASoS: 8/8/00. AFfC: 10/17/05. ADwD: 7/12/11. That's roughly 2 years each for the first 3 books, just over 5 for the fourth, just under 6 for the fifth. We're at nearly 13 years right now since the last book was published. Yes, he's a slow writer, but this is an unprecedented gap even for him. Game of Thrones passed the books in season 5 or season 6, depending on how you figure it. At that point he'd already failed in his attempt to keep ahead of the show - about 4-5 years after the release of the previous book. What if, once he missed out on the opportunity to write the ending before the show, he took a look around and realized that WoW was no longer the goal? After all, WoW only kept him slightly ahead of the show for a little longer, but definitely wouldn't have stopped the questions and scrutiny. What if, at that point he decided that the best way to write the books in peace was to not say a word till he was done. Not with the next book, but with the whole series. It would explain the truly excessive wait time, it would explain why he's gone so quiet over the last few years and it would be the only way to truly get everyone off his backs. So that's my crazy theory: he's secretly done with the next book and he's holding it until he's done with the whole series so people will stop bitching about him and he can go out in public again.
Unfortunately the explanation for the exorbitant delay is that he tried to do too many things, backed himself into a corner with his plotlines and insane worldbuilding (because I’m sorry but who the fuck cares about political struggles between people who want to play king when his worldbuilding confirms Lovecraftian gods exist in that universe?!) and he’s just too fucking lazy to figure it out, and too fucking egotistical to ask some other writers for help. He in fact has not been writing the series, at all.
The long awaited epic fantasy sequel by a legendary fantasy author whose title starts with Wind did in fact get finished today: Brandon Sanderson announced that stormlight 5 "Wind and Truth" is finished.
It'd be honestly hilarious if BrandoSando drove down to New Mexico from Utah and ordered a dragon cake to celebrate his book without dragons in it just to mess with people.
I'm very happy to open a video in which the first screenshot reads 'I have gone insane from waiting for The Winds of Winter'. Edit: On a more serious note, I believe this truly is it. That blogpost + him attending the WorldCon all seem to point to a very big announcement. I believe he might announce it himself during a panel or something, and everybody will go crazy and someone will post a video of that and then the internet will explode. Either way, GRRM wouldn't have posted that post randomly, he knows that we know. So overall I believe you're right in everything.
IG post explicitly says "release of his long-awaited book". So, if we believe it, then: • The author is male. • It is a book release, not a television show. • The book has been long-awaited. So, it is not for 𝘏𝘰𝘵𝘋. Given that the author is prominent and from New Mexico (and that GRRM is the only author who is widely associated with the state, I think), it seems like he is at least in good contention. The cake is dragon-shaped. So, the book is probably a fantasy novel and involves dragons. Moreover, cutting into the cake could be symbolic of slaying the dragon - which would be a fitting metaphor for this book. I cannot think of anyone else who matches the description, nor any other book(!) which would. I may just be uncultured, but from my data-set, there is exactly one way to interpret that post if it is true.
@@orcocan: We do not. One might be able to figure out whether they are a caterer, where they are based and which region they service, whether they have actually made the cake, etc. - based on their posts to date - but that validates the background facts and does not prove that their claim is fundamentally correct.
Has anyone heard of any GRRM party for 𝘏𝘰𝘵𝘋 premiere? I have not. But I 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 seen him post the Words of Wisdom thing on Facebook - separately from Not A Blog, meaning that he wants to emphasize it. So, assuming that the original post is correct about there being any party planned at all, and that there was not one already, then it seems even more likely that it would be for a book. GRRM's birthday is not until 20 Sep. (which is my sisters birthday too), which may or may not be too distant from now to be planned in this way.
It would be awesome if at the end of HOTD season 2 finale, after the credits finish, GRRM pops up and gives the announcement. That would be cool. I’m delusional too 😂
Honestly I would have thrown out most of what you said (I too am a delusional winds coper too) but the Worldcon stuff is very interesting. I can almost imagine GRRM thinking about how spectacular of an announcement that would make, given his famous/infamous internment comment and it being right after the end of hotd season 2, it would create unparalleled hype (which is already unparalleled). It reads to me very throneslike. I have a feeling!
Y’know, the best thing about all this is that he seems to still think he’s going to finish this series. Like he’s planning on it. And that’s good. I think he really super gardened himself into a corner in Mereen, and it took him a long time to fight his way out of that thicket, considering how dense the lore of his garden is, how much things intertwine. I think this next book might be really big and then the final one will be only about half or 2/3 as long, and he seems to plan on them being finished. He says he also wants to be involved in the other new shows too, though, which might not both be possible. I know he really likes being involved as much as possible with all extensions of the representation and handling of lore that is his LIFE’S WORK and one of the biggest high fantasy franchises of all time, but like there are realities like there only being 24 hours in a day and 365 days in a year. Y’know what I mean?
I've been feeling this too! I'm glad to see that other people are feeling the same way outside of the depressing cesspool that is reddit. Great video Quinn, hopefully Winds is coming soon.
Damn Quinn, all the effort I made on not being delusional has been thrown out the window. I think your reasoning is very very interesting. Now I'm looking forward to the historic day. I can't imagine what the reaction will be from all the community... One of the happiest days of our lives
The optimist in me: It's taking so long because he's working on WoW and DoS simultaneously The pessimist in me: he'll finish it when he stops cashing HBO's checks
Im also delusional to the point that when the finale for season 2 airs, at the end, George will speak to the audience and announce the winds of winter release date
I hope about whay you are saying, but I still can see Martin doing a joke at WorldCon saying something like "now put me in the acid, I'm sorry" or something like that, joking a little bit and saying "I'm 3/4 with the book, it's gonna be the longest book in the series..." and all the things he says every year
Just saying, he's doing a fantasy QnA with Philip Pullman (who is also nearing completion on the next book in his series) in the beginning of August. I could fully see a double-release date drop for the next book of dust and ice and fire together... that would be a week before worldcon where he could potentially have a finished manuscript in hand
I was really not convinced by the "Words of Wisdom" translating to "Winds of Winter" UNTIL I went to his not a blog and saw there have been TWO MORE recent blogs with similar titles. Another "Words of Wisdom" with a cryptic Teddy Roosevelt quote, and "Waldrop Wins One" which is also a stretch but is so weird that it would be weirder to title it that if it wasn't a coded message to me the government is sending me coded messages I'm being gang stalked by men in black suits someone is in my bushes with a telephoto lensohnoohnothecloudsareawatchingmeeeee
My brotha I’ve been binge watching all your vids over the last week since my friends got me back into asiof and it might just be recency bias but I’ve been thinking the same thing. Hope is a dangerous thing and ik im stupid for getting lost in the weeds but goddamit this kool-aid taste so damn good. Crossing my fingers and praying for a joyous day! Keep on being a goat my boy and thanks for all you do
Optimistic videos are a breath of fresh air. I stopped watching Preston Jacobs altogether because of how negative he is. Thank you for the optimism. More would be appreciated. Too many people just think it's never coming
@@alantyndall85 I remember Schwift's pictionary with Glidus, and rolling with laughter. It was like two lines and a gess, that's how delusional we all got from waiting. We've been waiting 15 years, and I think the stars have finally aligned.
I’m gonna make a bold prediction that I have almost nothing to back it up with. We will get an update on August 9th, which would be the 29th anniversary of the death of a GRRM’s favorite musician and heavy influence on the series, Jerry Garcia. This could also actually add up with the idea that he’s waiting for HotD to air fully since it would be a few days after the s2 finale on August 4th
I’m hoping right along with you my man! Hope and despair are two sides of the same circle and I’ve been on the despair side long enough that im coming back around to hope.
“I am delusional” as an opener is a power move
We're ASOIAF fans. It's our tagline, icebreaker, and fandom name.
Being delulu is the solulu
It’s how we know this is a safe space😂😭
Absolutely delulu
He is going to school to be a lawyer, makes sense lol
I absolutely love this comment section. The ASOIAF-community is held together by copium, pain and sarcasm.
We're like a machine that is more duct tape than metal at this point.
We have spent the last decade looking at a parked car making “vroom vroom” sounds
@@guccifer764 And now it looks like the car might be move! look, the light has turned on in the rear, and the wheels look like they are turning.
@@danielwillumsen2934 Literally every year since however long it's been after the last book ASOIAF came out fan channels are like "Here it is, WOW is finally coming!!" Meanwhile GRRM has found time to do anything else but finish his main series... Fire & Blood, working on HOTD and a bunch of spinoffs, God knows what else. I would have taken ONE REALLY GOOD GAME OF THRONES SERIES from start to finish, based on actual finished book material, over every consolation spinoff show and consolation book combined. TBH I wish he had just finished Winds and Dream instead of writing Fire & Blood. He's never gonna finish this series, people. Look at the mans' physical condition-- does that look like a healthy man to you, one that's gonna live that much longer? Listen to all the vague excuse-making in his interviews-- does that sound like a guy that has any intention at all of finishing ASOIAF to you? NO. Neither thing. So we can enjoy our fan theories all we want, but we're never getting the books. At least I held off on investing all the time in reading the series to date. I saved myself the aggravation of not getting a proper ending twice instead of just suffering the destruction of the show.
also theories. We are held together by the theories we create and consume.
Don't do that, don't give me hope.
Beat me to it! Also same! 😂
Was thinking this 😅
Quinn is an eternal optimist if nothing else.
that was my first thought!
It's called clickbait. Never heard of it?
He finished Winds back in 2015, but he encountered writers block whilst drafting the announcement post and just can't figure out a way to announce it. Apparently there's like 20 million copies of the book sitting in warehouses just waiting for him to post the announcement, some of them are starting to decay.
Source?
Melisandre:
@@RealLifeIronManI have seen it in the flames
@@RealLifeIronMan The visions caused by the fumes of Daenerys's foul smelling stools. THE AMERICAN TOLKIEN!!!
@@fakeplaystore7991
Based and old-hippie-pilled.
The book will be completed in July and it will release December 24th 2024. I have seen it in a dream.
Dragon Dreamer NetoJader.
It is known
May The Seven hear you!
Maggie the frog herself said it
Keep on dreaming
Quinn: "I am delusional, this is a mangled conspiracy theory mess"
Me: "The Mahdi is too humble to admit he is the Mahdi"
Lisan-al ghaib!😂
It is written
Mashallah brother ❤️
@@Thatguy-sm8cwas was foretold
All the more reason to know that he is!!
Quinn is going full damphair and is hearing the drowned got in his head
I am a godly man
@@QuinnTheGMno godless man could ever do what you do
...and rises again, harder and stronger
@@andrzejkopalnia
That's literally me, fr, fr.
@@andrzejkopalnia just like my d*** after a good dose of tadalafil
"I know you're delusional, but are you delusional too?" is how we should ALL sign off our videos
I certainly have no delusions over your upcoming feast
Holy shit on Velcro Batman! Weren't you last seen a horse?.. Love the pisstakes can't wait to see more. Hope all is well.
Get that blender ready buddy.
I promise to send you some of the really good hot sauce that my sister sends me from Mexico to make all those words a little bit tastier to eat. Do you prefer roja or verde?
What is your favorite flavor of book to eat?
Quinn is seeing visions in the flames
The book is dark and full of terrors!
I can’t wait to read The Titan’s Brother on December 17th 2024
When he searches for it all he sees is grim.
The visions never lie but sometimes we mortals err
He had a dragon dream!
I'm telling you, it's coming, I can feel it, 2021 is gonna be the year
Oof
Under the sea, the mermaids read winds of Winter, with broken bottle spectacles. I know I know oh oh oh.
Edit 24 hours later: woke up to my RUclips notification working over time because 1.2k liked my terrible joke. You all are way too kind, and have terrible taste 😜. When we live in a mad Max style post-apocalypse, we can all get together and call our faction, The Winter Dreamers.... I just hope the last book: "Delusions of Spring", doesn't take GRRM another couple decades to finish. He has said for years, that he knows how he wants his story to end. So in theory it's just a matter of getting all the pieces into place and maybe, MAYBE, it'll all fall together... I want the story done, but I do want it done right.
lmfao
I've missed you, Patches
lol
he is horror clown character with creepy music box music playing in the background
😂😂
Here you have another reason:
The rights for the Spanish publication expire and the publisher didn’t renew them (money issues).
Penguin said they will not buy the rights until WOW is finish because, at the moment, it appears the rights are too expensive to be profitable.
Well… guess what? Penguin published new editions of all 5 books a couple of months ago!!!!
Winter is coming my friends.
Thats actual evidence
Hope so
This is actually quite compelling. Trying to engage so more people see your comment!
Can’t believe late stage capitalism is giving me hope for once.
@@azlanadil3646 we had late stage capitalism since the late 19th century dude
The announcement: "Winds of Winter will be released in 2054"
2197
At least is a date
… 2054 AC
Hey bro, I might still be alive by then, I'll take it.
@@Johnnythefirst 🤣🤣🤣
I don't think it's delusional. I think we've all gotten so pained and bitter with the wait, that we're inclined to tear chunks out of anyone who still musters up hope. I also had a dream about reading it. I'm not delusional, I'm a 100% certified fortune teller
Luckily we have ppl like you @mylittlethoughttree, quinn, and fantasy haven that render the wait bearable.
Thanks! Your service to the community is priceless.
Loved the Littlefinger video, one of my fav characters, it’s good seeing him get some love
a fat man standing on the world slaying doubters with a black book - i saw it in the flames
Dreaming about reading it is crazy haha
LET HIM COOK
Eyyy Fantasy Haven love your stuff man
Nooooo Don’t burn the stew, George 😭
Gurm can cook all he wants, as long as he doesn't eat. PUT DOWN THE FORK AND PICK UP THE PEN GEORGE!
Cool to see you here!
@@fakeplaystore7991GRRM 😂
It makes me sad thinking about the number of fans who have died waiting for Winds.
I know of a user from tumblr who had great theories and sadly died a few years ago...
Their watch has ended. :(
Wow the fans of this series are wild. Talking about it like these people were family waiting for young men to return from war but dying before they did.
The book doesn't exist yet. Just think of it that way. Sadly there are many stories in books and other media that the creator never made an ending to for whatever reason. That doesn't mean you "died waiting" for the ending.
@Zwijger guess these same people died waiting for other stuff that doesn't exist... like star wars episode 10, the Lord of the Rings sequel book, The Canterbury Tales, Half-Life 3, My name is earl season 5(?). And thousands of other properties that were never finished.
@@daianad377that was sad to read. My condolences to his family and friends
Before I clicked the video I LITERALLY thought to myself, “great more fuel for my delusions” and then Quinn starts the video by saying “I wanna preface this by saying I’m delusional” 😭
Okay ngl, a Victarion chapter named “The Titan’s Brother” goes pretty hard
"It was revealed to me in a dream" fuck, you've done it, you've convinced me.
“There is a theory which states that if _The Winds of Winter_ is ever released in this Universe, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by a Universe in which it takes longer to be released.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.”
is this a Douglas Adams-style joke?
HITCHHIKER REFERENCE!!!
We’re all delusional and insane in the ASOIAF community buddy, at least we can all go crazy together :)
😂❤
100%! 😅
Write it all George... Write it all!! Write it all!
The "you saw it in a dream" part really convinced me
the biggest piece of evidence for me was the Duexmoi post. Duexmoi is a pop culture gossip site that mostly focuses on celebrities like singers, influencers, or actors. Basically for people like Tom Cruise or Taylor Swift. So for someone to get on there and post about Uncle George and his silly book is out of left field. People who read ASOIaF isn’t the demographic for duexmoi AT ALL. It’d be like if ESPN got news on what Scorsese’s next movie would be about.
Yeah, but at that point you have to wonder if not GRRM then who the heck were they talking about?
@@FictionRaider007 As far as I know, most Deuxmoi posts are to be taken with a moderate grain of salt. So, the posts they show are all anonymous submissions that they can’t verify. So it’s definitely about George, but the source of the post could just be someone who wants to throw the fandom into defcon 2.
@@FictionRaider007itd have to be George. The only other prominent New Mexico writer is Cormac McCarthy and he died last year
Quinn reads the book and finds "The Titan's Brother" written on the next page. At this point he discovered he warged into GRRM and had become a greenseer
Martin see @QuinnTheGM body and thinks: That would be a second life worthy of a king
"Egg... I dreamt I was an old fat hippie"
You mean a GRRMseer
"I remembered that, so I allowed myself to hope... perhaps I wanted to... we all deceive ourselves, when we want to believe."
- George R.R. Martin, A Feast for Crows
I remember deciding to re-read the series because I thought Winds was likely to come out soon. Since then I graduated left school, graduated university and have been in work for two years. Basically, I'll believe it when i see it
The white winds are gathering, call the banners…winter is here.
While the white winds gather, the black wind howls. ASOIAF will shortly perish.
I'm literally 1 minute in, and I paused the video to say this. Never let us doubters who have given up all hope steal your joy of hoping and believing! If it doesn't case you harm to believe, be a believer. If you don't end up feeling let down, keep hoping.
I don't want anyone else to turn bitter about something they loved just because I have. Keep believing. Maybe even believe a little for me too! ❤
I've finished the video and honestly I hope you're right, for you and all the folks like you who still believe the last 2 books will be published.
For me personally, I doubt I'll buy it even if you're right. I don't want to get invested again just to wait for the last book. Maybe if they're both finished I'll consider buying them someday.
You’re doing it. You’re giving me hope. I’m scared.
At the end of the HOTD S2 finale, imagine the camera pans to a snowy landscape beyond the wall, a harsh wind loudly blows through the trees, and a date flashes on the screen.
The amount of cope, omg🤣💀
damn... goosebumps
And words are just winds
Only a dream now that the season is over
George RR fans try not to get their hopes up Challenge : Impossible
In the official online promotion for season 1 of HotD, GRRM mentioned that he had written a couple of good chapters recently and was anxious to get home so he could carry on writing before he lost his good ideas. I got the impression that the positive experience of being involved with HotD inspired him. Since then I have felt positive that WoW would be soon.
These are my exact thoughts!
My comment has not aged well. It's likely that the stress GRRM feels, rightly or wrongly, over season 2 is going to impede the writing of WoW
You forgot to mention the meeting he had with his british publisher around 5 months ago, and he said it was about Winds, among other things. Which is a pretty big sign, maybe the biggest one yet
Either that or the publisher summoned him there to yell at him with his cute accent.
Honestly, I think you are 100% correct on this. As soon as I heard GRRM was going to WorldCon, this all fell into place in my head as well. It makes tremendous sense to announce the book at WorldCon (the place he originally sad he would have) and avoid interrupting any hype for House of the Dragon. He has also already had an essentially completed book (1200+ pages) for years so the timing fits in many ways. It is finally happening.
Even if he hasn't finished I hope to god that he has at least decided to release the first half (or the first 1000 - 1200 pages) of it already since the wait has been so long. It's written, just give it to us!
prob he cut 10 chapters from the book, already ready to go into dream of spring
And, hey, if it doesn't happen, he gave us permission to use the acid pit.
@@felipebrugnera8326 That is what I am thinking as well. At the very least he could move some to Spring as well if he doesn’t want to split Winds.
@@Seelenverheizer That’s what I am thinking too. He has done this in the past too.
I have much less fear about A Dream of Spring than Winds of Winter. I think the penultimate book is always the hardest to write and most important, but once we get to where we're going, I think he'll be fine.
It's been said about every single book since Feast. "Now that the Meereeneesee knot is done with, Winds CAN'T take him more than like 3 years!"
I'm pretty sure he'll need more than seven books to wrap up the story. Winds, if it ever comes out, won't be the penultimate book in the series.
Man, just two days ago, on June 19, George posted a new "Words of Wisdom" entry. This time is a Roosevelt's Quote: "Far and away the best prize that life has to Offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." . So, I think you should increase the chances from 40% to 41%. It's closer!
It is true that his blogposts have had a more positive vibe recently. I think that he's at least at the point were he's resolved all difficulties and only has to fill up the remaining gaps in the manuscript. That doesn't mean we're necessarily looking at a 2024 release
I hypothesize that George is hybridizing his writing style, an architect-gardener building the hanging gardens of Babylon.
I firmly believe that he has been working on the framework for dream of spring for some time. Concurrently with work on winds of winter.
It is the only way he could make all the disparate plotlines come together just right.
I've had the same feeling. It would be impossible to set up the conclusion w/o having final plot lines and character arcs pretty firmly figured out. I'm thinking there will be a lot of pruning in George's Winter garden before Spring, so with luck the last book should go more quickly (and probably be more fun to write?). Or I'm delusional too.
@@stephaneeismIt is known
"It was revealed to me in a dream" - Jojen Reed.
I had a dream about a month ago I was at a party, walked into a back room, and George was chilling reading something. I asked him what he was reading and he said it was winds and I could read it if I didn’t tell anyone about it. Then I woke up and haven’t been okay since
Istg this fandom is the funniest and saddest thing simultaneously🤣🤣
So it really WAS revealed to you on a dream
@@irenegalicia834 it’ll be announced within 3 months
Did you like the book
I, for one, am completely on board with you
(If only to give myself false hope)
guys i had a bonfire the other day and r'hllor talked to me and said winds of winter soon i swear we had a convo hes a chiller he let me hit his bong i promise guys
Over the past few weeks I've seen everyone start getting hyped for winds, I can't even, I exist with total apathy so I never feel disappointed
Literally me. Disappointed is impossible when you expect nothing.
Keep telling yourselves that. The fact that you clicked on the video means that deep inside, you still hope 😁
"The Titan's Brother" goes hard as a chapter title ngl, very GRRM-esque
Funnily enough he has just made another blog post called Words of Wisdom today
"Book sales would go pretty well" is such a massive understatement lol
Was listening to this doing dishes and an ad with heavy breathing popped up and I was like omg is Quinn GM going to hyperventilate but nope just some horror movie trailer.
I can't wait to see this video when it's 6 years old and the book still isn't out yet reach my recommendations again
3:06
It'd actually be hilarious if he released them both at the same time like "here you go, you little shits. It's all here. Enjoy, and leave me alone." Lol
Imagine doing that in secret for 13 years just to fuck with everyone. Dude would deserve a statue after that. "Ah and here are all of the Dunk and Egg stories. I got bored."
@@Johnnythefirst it's the ultimate troll but I'd be here for it 😂. Especially if I got all my Dunks n Eggs 🤣🥰
That would be very Sandersonian of him. We can only hope...
Wish he’d drop the 2 books for the main series, Blood and Fire, and the Dunk & Egg novellas all at the same time 😭 but he’s a lazy idiot so I do not think he’s been writing either of those books, like at all
“It was revealed to me in a dream” is the most on-brand thing for ASOIAF.
My personal pet theory (or is it wishful thinking?!) of the last few months is that GRRM will announce TWOW right after the end of season 2 of HOTD, so that they can release it this year right in time for christmas shopping. 🙂
Yes! I'm a foolish optimist!😁😁🤣🤣
i bet you the end of season 2 will have a cryptic announcement of an announcement happening at world con. Trust me i saw a fat man standing on the world slaying doubters with a black book in the flames.
@@SeelenverheizerThat was probably Santa.
I just bought the whole collection of a song of ice and fire. I’m on the first book and honestly fell in love with it. My gamble was that by the time I get done with a dance of dragons winds of winter will come out. Also when you start reading the books and enter the fandom the delusion of when the next book comes out immediately takes hold. My delusion is that he’s been done writing winds of winter and he’s secretly writing a dream of spring and release then together.
Sweet Summer Child.... All us latecomers go through this.
I just started "A Storm of Swords" and that's my hope too
Same haha and I’ve been putting it off for years for this very reason lol. I started with fire and blood this year, finished that and Knight of Seven Kingdoms and Game of Thrones before the end of Jan but then slowed down because I realised I’d finish way before Winds came out. 3/4 of the way through Kings rn so hopefully I can somehow pace it just right for the series to carry me through until Winds is released somehow
GRRM GIVE ME ME MORE YOUNG GRIFF!!!!!
I wish the Aegon camp had more chapters
He is trying. He has been at it for more of a decade, put down the leash please.
@@mocha5742 Me too
Here to take the black for house blackfyre! ❤️
@@leandrocastello309 I know I could never truly be angry with our Lord and Savior GRRM. I just really want more Young Griff and Blackfyre stuff.
In the words of D&D: Martin just sort of forget about his world con promise
Ah yes, this delay is a deliverate action to spite specifically _you._ Its not like he actually wants to publish the damn book and be done with the harassment.
Spiting you is more important.
@@leandrocastello309 Personally, that's how I would be. Why should I make the people harassing me happy? Making the harassment stop is _way_ less important and gets less and less important as time passes. Why reward bad behavior? No one likes a nag.
You guys have a point. Barely remember the story, but there was a video game developer who made two really awesome games.
People made petitions, and letters, but eventually it went to death threats. The creator of the games relented and made game number 3.
The only thing that got him, was more of the same treatment until game 4 was out.
Martin probably doesn't want to be in a situation, like you guys pointed out, with their behavior is rewarded, and he just gets constant threats until we get book 19 and 20 till infinity LOL
I think he's going to pay for a room with a fake lake of acid and a cage and hope everyone has a good laugh about it.
The timing is right. House of the Dragon airs its last episode on Aug 4. Worldcon opens Aug 8.
I’m rock hard!!!
bro what
@@MrMustache-yn4zmhe’s rock hard
@@joeschmo4646 honestly same
ahahahaahgdj
it came to me in a dream is the most solid evidence here
I've been feeling it for a while myself, like I can't tell if it's a nerds hope or the universe saying the winds are coming.
So when this was recommended to me, the video was posted 11 days ago, currently has 111k views and 1,1k comments. I'm taking this as a sign. This video must be correct.
The Winds of Winter are blowing.
Words are wind…
And words of wisdom are winds of winter!
@@alihijazi4451i like that take
Somehow, the news im most convinced by, is the cake and catering. GRRM is no slouch when it comes to food extravagaza
That “Dreaming” post could mean he’s started writing “A Dream for Spring”
I'd like to add that the company that sells the German translation released a new cover design for the older books - maybe Winds will be made in that design.
Were translations usually released concurrently with the original in the past, or was there a delay?
@@Andystuff800 They were
@@dabestestgoblin8495they were not, the german translation of Dance were released one year after the original release
I laughed so hard when I saw the title. Like legit I haven't even watched the video yet but this is actually hilarious just reading the title. Someone used statistics to conclude the average possible release date is like 2032 lol
I think Winter solstice (Dec 21 this year) is a more likely release date than Dec 17, its the darkest and shortest day of the year and ties in thematically with Winds. And its also at the peak of the holiday shopping season.
So book stores will all simultaneously have it in stock by dec 21?
Unfortunately WorldCon has now passed and there’s no announcement 😢
He has a 80 min panel at the bubonic (bubonium)? Con
My thought process clicking on this video: "I am clicking on this video because I am delusional."
Opening of this video: "I am delusional."
My brain: "Ah, I'm in the right place."
When it's officially done. George will probably have every outlet be on full standby and we'd hear about it from the publishers. Someone would spoil it.
Oh okay we'll just take your word for it then
“probably” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here
yeah you're right
Bro I watched this like 3 times today because I'm insane 😭
Same here 😂
We're collectively loosing our sh!t🤣
I have an even more conspiracy-brain theory:
So, the man has said before that he hates the whole process of people waiting on his books. He's a slow writer but he was never this slow until this book. I think in GRRM's perfect world he finishes the series as soon as possible so that he has time to just enjoy the celebrity his creation has brought while one of the shows is still in the public eye.
Now, think about what would happen if he published Winds of Winter. People would be overjoyed, it would be huge news and fans would spend a short while reading it and a little while longer talking about it...and then in a couple months we'd be back to waiting for the next book and he'd start getting questions about it again. Only, it would be much worse than it is right now because right now he's faded into the background somewhat as so many have basically given up on the series ever being completed.
In short, if he released the next book, the scrutiny he'd be under would intensify and we know he hates that.
Let's look at some time gaps now. AGoT: 8/1/96. ACoK: 11/16/98. ASoS: 8/8/00. AFfC: 10/17/05. ADwD: 7/12/11. That's roughly 2 years each for the first 3 books, just over 5 for the fourth, just under 6 for the fifth. We're at nearly 13 years right now since the last book was published. Yes, he's a slow writer, but this is an unprecedented gap even for him. Game of Thrones passed the books in season 5 or season 6, depending on how you figure it. At that point he'd already failed in his attempt to keep ahead of the show - about 4-5 years after the release of the previous book.
What if, once he missed out on the opportunity to write the ending before the show, he took a look around and realized that WoW was no longer the goal? After all, WoW only kept him slightly ahead of the show for a little longer, but definitely wouldn't have stopped the questions and scrutiny. What if, at that point he decided that the best way to write the books in peace was to not say a word till he was done. Not with the next book, but with the whole series. It would explain the truly excessive wait time, it would explain why he's gone so quiet over the last few years and it would be the only way to truly get everyone off his backs.
So that's my crazy theory: he's secretly done with the next book and he's holding it until he's done with the whole series so people will stop bitching about him and he can go out in public again.
I think you're onto something 🙌
Unfortunately the explanation for the exorbitant delay is that he tried to do too many things, backed himself into a corner with his plotlines and insane worldbuilding (because I’m sorry but who the fuck cares about political struggles between people who want to play king when his worldbuilding confirms Lovecraftian gods exist in that universe?!) and he’s just too fucking lazy to figure it out, and too fucking egotistical to ask some other writers for help. He in fact has not been writing the series, at all.
The long awaited epic fantasy sequel by a legendary fantasy author whose title starts with Wind did in fact get finished today: Brandon Sanderson announced that stormlight 5 "Wind and Truth" is finished.
It'd be honestly hilarious if BrandoSando drove down to New Mexico from Utah and ordered a dragon cake to celebrate his book without dragons in it just to mess with people.
I'd die if, somehow, Wind and Truth and Winds of Winter were to release in the same month... The dream come true
I'm very happy to open a video in which the first screenshot reads 'I have gone insane from waiting for The Winds of Winter'. Edit: On a more serious note, I believe this truly is it. That blogpost + him attending the WorldCon all seem to point to a very big announcement. I believe he might announce it himself during a panel or something, and everybody will go crazy and someone will post a video of that and then the internet will explode. Either way, GRRM wouldn't have posted that post randomly, he knows that we know. So overall I believe you're right in everything.
IG post explicitly says "release of his long-awaited book". So, if we believe it, then:
• The author is male.
• It is a book release, not a television show.
• The book has been long-awaited.
So, it is not for 𝘏𝘰𝘵𝘋.
Given that the author is prominent and from New Mexico (and that GRRM is the only author who is widely associated with the state, I think), it seems like he is at least in good contention.
The cake is dragon-shaped. So, the book is probably a fantasy novel and involves dragons. Moreover, cutting into the cake could be symbolic of slaying the dragon - which would be a fitting metaphor for this book.
I cannot think of anyone else who matches the description, nor any other book(!) which would. I may just be uncultured, but from my data-set, there is exactly one way to interpret that post if it is true.
but how do we know that its not just some random person posting BS?
@@orcocan: We do not. One might be able to figure out whether they are a caterer, where they are based and which region they service, whether they have actually made the cake, etc. - based on their posts to date - but that validates the background facts and does not prove that their claim is fundamentally correct.
@orcocan welcome to celebrity news!
Has anyone heard of any GRRM party for 𝘏𝘰𝘵𝘋 premiere? I have not. But I 𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘦 seen him post the Words of Wisdom thing on Facebook - separately from Not A Blog, meaning that he wants to emphasize it.
So, assuming that the original post is correct about there being any party planned at all, and that there was not one already, then it seems even more likely that it would be for a book. GRRM's birthday is not until 20 Sep. (which is my sisters birthday too), which may or may not be too distant from now to be planned in this way.
It would be awesome if at the end of HOTD season 2 finale, after the credits finish, GRRM pops up and gives the announcement. That would be cool. I’m delusional too 😂
Honestly I would have thrown out most of what you said (I too am a delusional winds coper too) but the Worldcon stuff is very interesting. I can almost imagine GRRM thinking about how spectacular of an announcement that would make, given his famous/infamous internment comment and it being right after the end of hotd season 2, it would create unparalleled hype (which is already unparalleled). It reads to me very throneslike. I have a feeling!
Y’know, the best thing about all this is that he seems to still think he’s going to finish this series. Like he’s planning on it. And that’s good. I think he really super gardened himself into a corner in Mereen, and it took him a long time to fight his way out of that thicket, considering how dense the lore of his garden is, how much things intertwine. I think this next book might be really big and then the final one will be only about half or 2/3 as long, and he seems to plan on them being finished. He says he also wants to be involved in the other new shows too, though, which might not both be possible. I know he really likes being involved as much as possible with all extensions of the representation and handling of lore that is his LIFE’S WORK and one of the biggest high fantasy franchises of all time, but like there are realities like there only being 24 hours in a day and 365 days in a year. Y’know what I mean?
I've been feeling this too! I'm glad to see that other people are feeling the same way outside of the depressing cesspool that is reddit. Great video Quinn, hopefully Winds is coming soon.
I agree with you! Its happening! It isn't just the bag of hopium that I've been taking MASSIVE inhales of.
Damn Quinn, all the effort I made on not being delusional has been thrown out the window. I think your reasoning is very very interesting. Now I'm looking forward to the historic day. I can't imagine what the reaction will be from all the community... One of the happiest days of our lives
It was revealed in a dream? By the seven! GRRM is playing with glass candles in anticipation of the upcoming release of his book!
The optimist in me: It's taking so long because he's working on WoW and DoS simultaneously
The pessimist in me: he'll finish it when he stops cashing HBO's checks
George: "Great news everyone I have actually found a way to continue to write my book in the afterlife"
Im also delusional to the point that when the finale for season 2 airs, at the end, George will speak to the audience and announce the winds of winter release date
I hope about whay you are saying, but I still can see Martin doing a joke at WorldCon saying something like "now put me in the acid, I'm sorry" or something like that, joking a little bit and saying "I'm 3/4 with the book, it's gonna be the longest book in the series..." and all the things he says every year
Just saying, he's doing a fantasy QnA with Philip Pullman (who is also nearing completion on the next book in his series) in the beginning of August. I could fully see a double-release date drop for the next book of dust and ice and fire together... that would be a week before worldcon where he could potentially have a finished manuscript in hand
It would be poetic, perfect, sweet, etc. to release TWOW at worldcon a week after conclusion of HOTD S2 (i’m delusional)
I've had this feeling since the Words of Wisdom post and I can't contain my excitement. hopefully we get an announcement soon
Im worried George will pass away before he’s finished and they will take what he has and finish it themselves to release it abs they will ruin it
I honestly think a few of the GoT theorists here on RUclips would actually do a much better job than GRRM…
I was really not convinced by the "Words of Wisdom" translating to "Winds of Winter" UNTIL I went to his not a blog and saw there have been TWO MORE recent blogs with similar titles. Another "Words of Wisdom" with a cryptic Teddy Roosevelt quote, and "Waldrop Wins One" which is also a stretch but is so weird that it would be weirder to title it that if it wasn't a coded message to me the government is sending me coded messages I'm being gang stalked by men in black suits someone is in my bushes with a telephoto lensohnoohnothecloudsareawatchingmeeeee
My brotha I’ve been binge watching all your vids over the last week since my friends got me back into asiof and it might just be recency bias but I’ve been thinking the same thing. Hope is a dangerous thing and ik im stupid for getting lost in the weeds but goddamit this kool-aid taste so damn good. Crossing my fingers and praying for a joyous day! Keep on being a goat my boy and thanks for all you do
I gotta say, finding out that George is aware of ASX and Glidus is in itself a piece of knowledge that makes my day
0:14 aren’t we all, ist that the whole point
We are all delusional, Quinn! And it’s glorious!!!
Optimistic videos are a breath of fresh air. I stopped watching Preston Jacobs altogether because of how negative he is. Thank you for the optimism. More would be appreciated. Too many people just think it's never coming
Wait, what?!
GRRM talked about Glidus & Alt Schwift X?
They met up a few weeks ago, but not for any on the record interview. I can only assume it was a private performance of the Tyrion rap.
@@alantyndall85 I remember Schwift's pictionary with Glidus, and rolling with laughter. It was like two lines and a gess, that's how delusional we all got from waiting. We've been waiting 15 years, and I think the stars have finally aligned.
I remember when I used to get excited when I saw headlines like this. I was such a sweet summer child back in 2016.
I think the "it was revealed to me in a dream" part is the strongest proof that we're getting WOW soon
Delulu is the solulu
Imagine a world where Martin goes up on stage and says, "Winds isn't coming. It's out right now.' Then holds up a copy. The internet would explode.
I’m gonna make a bold prediction that I have almost nothing to back it up with.
We will get an update on August 9th, which would be the 29th anniversary of the death of a GRRM’s favorite musician and heavy influence on the series, Jerry Garcia.
This could also actually add up with the idea that he’s waiting for HotD to air fully since it would be a few days after the s2 finale on August 4th
I’m hoping right along with you my man! Hope and despair are two sides of the same circle and I’ve been on the despair side long enough that im coming back around to hope.