The ring turned out amazing! I actually worked for a person doing finishing work on pewter medallions for a local marathon the past couple of years, and one of the chemicals we use is "pewter black" from Jax Chemicals. It oxidizes the surface of the pewter then can be buffed off to give a similar effect to the spray paint. The finish from pewter black may be more chemical resistant than the spray paint, and a 2 oz bottle would be plenty to brush into the details. Edit: As I'm reading their page it says it also works on brass and bronze, so maybe it would work on cold cast props?
I've sat through so many videos that tried to achieve this. This is the first one I've seen that was actually explained well and didnt require a stupid number of complex steps. Well done
That is awesome. I had this wonderful pewter dragon's claw when I was in high school. It was holding a round sparkly glass marble in purple. I sculpt now and my mind started churning with the possibilities of making molds of some of my creations to cast them in pewter. :D - Heidi
It was wonderful wasn't it? I lost almost all my 'things' from high school and before sadly. I think of some of them now and then. That pendant is one of them. I wish I didn't know how people feel who lose everything to a disaster (fire, hurricane, flood etc.) but I do. On the plus side it makes me be more genuinely empathetic. :)
I was wondering if you could make a tutorial about the different use for the dremel in 3d printed parts, how does each bit affect the piece and that kind of stuff.
Pewter isn't really a skin-contact safe metal. The cheapest (or old) pewter has lead in it. you should try pouring wax in your silicone mould and then casting in gold or silver.
All pewter is, is a tin alloy. The tin content can be up to 99%. The additives are often antimony etc, no need to use lead. You are talking about only one of a great many alloys and additives.
Come on Bill, just cast your ring in wax, make a plastermold with the wax model in it, burn out the wax, then use a mapp burner to cast the ring in silver. Only a few steps more. I know you can do it, Bill! Good luck.
to get better detail reproduction, add around 2% of bismuth to your pewter (assuming it doesn't already contain some). it expands while cooling allowing the pewter/tin to fill out the mold better. to get a harder alloy, you could add some copper to it. up to 10 percent should be possible without raising the melting temperature too much for the silicone. another option is zinc. higher melting temp, but can still be done with a torch and the silicone should still be able to handle it. oh and diluted nitric acid instantly blackens tin if you don't want to use spray paint for some reason.
That looks great. I was wondering if you might try castign the ring in Plaster. I personally would want to try and make the ring from Scrap gold, which I am sure is too hot for the Silicone mold. Though I could use your method and remake the Warhammer 40K figures that are now made of plastic and cast them in Pewter like they are meant to be.
I've been dying to do exactly this with some Threepio parts. want to do aluminum so it'll be a few more steps. I'm going to sneak in and use that printer went you're not looking. ;)
thank you . great videos. i'm an old school jeweler (Hobby). I use the lost wax technique and cast in centrifuge casting machine blah blah blah… my question to you is that: your technique is cool but why you didn't instead use Sterling Silver and a simple torch to cast your ring??. Silver is also very cheap and last forever.
hey, I recently bought a Batman glove made out of latex by Rubies. it only comes in one size and it's too big. is there a way to shrink latex to your body?
i've got a cosplay problem. Where do you store your finished projects? I've been cosplaying long enough now that I'm having storage issues, since I can't just throw something like that away
Pewter is a very soft material and gets damaged when using tools... so is gold and silver, iit looks amazing and using any fancier metal will only increase the price, not the durability or the hardness of it
The durability will last a lot longer with silver or gold. They are soft Metal but not has soft has pewter. I work every day in my workshop where I make knives with my silver ring and it's still in good shape.
that's... surprising, I asumed that pewter and gold and silver were in the same toughness range, just different reactivity with chemicals, good to know, I have a jeweler uncle tha can get me cheap silver I'll go with that if I decide to make one of these. thanks
The hardness of Tin (Pewder is made with 90/99% of tin) is 1.5 in the Moth Scale, Silver and Gold have an hardness of 2.5/3. The silver and gold used in jewelry are in fact an alloys who make the metal way more durable. Sterling silver, used in jewelry is 92.5% silver, the rest is most likely copper. 18k gold is most likely 75% gold 15% copper and 10% silver. I don't have the hardness of these alloys but it make the jewelry a lot stronger. I can see scratches on my ring but it's nothing too big, I'm pretty sure i could polish them off. I you can have silver for cheap go for it, even if you don't use it, you can resell it easily !
Hey Bill, did something a bit similar lately I aim for more rings. Just would like to know if you have any update on how it kept shape in time as it's pewter. (Pewter or solder btw ? Is pewter not dangerous with the lead in it thus maybe stronger than solder ?)
Ok so still in good shape ! :) I think the thickness or width are key parameters here, is too thin it will break super easily in pewter :s by experience. Thank you for the answer ! :) Have a sunny sunday !
I know this from a while ago but I only just found it. I'm wanting to make some viking beard beads. Did you have to make your design so it curved to match the ring's curve?
If you want to go the cheap way, use wax. Make your ring out of wax and cast it like in the video. The Form 2 cost 4000$ is way too expensive if you're not made of money. A cheaper, PLA printer could do the trick but you will need to work a lot to have a good result. If you only want to make jewelry, stick to the traditional method and go for the Wax.
SwompyGaming you mean Heat treating, quenching is a method for relief after heat treating. No you can't harden pewter. It just possible to heattreat carbon steels. Plz forgive my bad English and explanation but I hope I helped you
Probably could have skipped the silicone step. I would be interested to see what would happen if you took just the 3D print and bury it in very fine sand then pour the molten metal in it. It should melt the plastic ring replacing it with metal
I've heard of people doing that with PLA plastic and aluminum. I have no idea if this resin off the Form 2 would vaporize. Also I don't think the pewter gets hot enough to get the job done. Soooooo if it was a PLA print and you were casting in aluminum, that would probably work. The benefit of making the silicone mold is the repeatability with a low melt metal like pewter.
Could you use the Ultimaker for a Lost Wax casting mold? A little plaster and a quick and dirty little crucible could cast those things in Silver or Gold. Would love to see you do something along those lines. Had some fun in the past myself and it's really rewarding to cast in precious metals.
Punished Props Aluminum is supposedly extremely toxic when casting/melting so take the proper steps. The being said, I'm certain you can work up some awesome things. I'd like to see you possibly incorporate cast metal components in your high end builds. Something small but prominent that can show off a huge diversity in materials and construction techniques.
I am a time traveler visiting from seven years in the future. You are still married. You will make a new ring to replace this one since it has gotten worn down. De-gas, you must!😊
Just a heads up to everyone, Pewter is a mixture of soft metals, mostly tin but may contain lead!!! Be sure to check to make sure you are not purchasing pewter with lead and making jewelry. I hope Bill's doesn't have any lead XD
Why not get it done in silver?? This would cost $140 to get made in silver, I understand the process is interesting but seems that it's not really a cost effective experiment.
This is really freaking cool. Didn't expect the end product to look this freaking good.
The ring turned out amazing! I actually worked for a person doing finishing work on pewter medallions for a local marathon the past couple of years, and one of the chemicals we use is "pewter black" from Jax Chemicals. It oxidizes the surface of the pewter then can be buffed off to give a similar effect to the spray paint. The finish from pewter black may be more chemical resistant than the spray paint, and a 2 oz bottle would be plenty to brush into the details.
Edit: As I'm reading their page it says it also works on brass and bronze, so maybe it would work on cold cast props?
Bruh I thought this was gonna be easy.. he went tf in 😂😂😂
I've sat through so many videos that tried to achieve this. This is the first one I've seen that was actually explained well and didnt require a stupid number of complex steps. Well done
My dreamed tutorial. Thank you so much for this!
That is awesome. I had this wonderful pewter dragon's claw when I was in high school. It was holding a round sparkly glass marble in purple. I sculpt now and my mind started churning with the possibilities of making molds of some of my creations to cast them in pewter. :D - Heidi
It was wonderful wasn't it? I lost almost all my 'things' from high school and before sadly. I think of some of them now and then. That pendant is one of them. I wish I didn't know how people feel who lose everything to a disaster (fire, hurricane, flood etc.) but I do. On the plus side it makes me be more genuinely empathetic. :)
... Oh!!! may have found next years wedding anniversary present for my hubby.... Thank you for all the awesome tutorials!
This looks so good!!!!
I was wondering if you could make a tutorial about the different use for the dremel in 3d printed parts, how does each bit affect the piece and that kind of stuff.
Nice MIIB reference at the start XD
they look so good!
Thanks for sending this out!
+1 for the smart method of spraying black paint and then wiping out the surface with alcohol!
Pewter isn't really a skin-contact safe metal. The cheapest (or old) pewter has lead in it. you should try pouring wax in your silicone mould and then casting in gold or silver.
Jewelry pewter is safe.
I would love to see how doable silver casting is in small scale!
All pewter is, is a tin alloy. The tin content can be up to 99%. The additives are often antimony etc, no need to use lead. You are talking about only one of a great many alloys and additives.
Come on Bill, just cast your ring in wax, make a plastermold with the wax model in it, burn out the wax, then use a mapp burner to cast the ring in silver. Only a few steps more. I know you can do it, Bill!
Good luck.
to get better detail reproduction, add around 2% of bismuth to your pewter (assuming it doesn't already contain some). it expands while cooling allowing the pewter/tin to fill out the mold better. to get a harder alloy, you could add some copper to it. up to 10 percent should be possible without raising the melting temperature too much for the silicone. another option is zinc. higher melting temp, but can still be done with a torch and the silicone should still be able to handle it. oh and diluted nitric acid instantly blackens tin if you don't want to use spray paint for some reason.
Fantastic tutorial - Thank you!!!
whattt.. this is the perfect video. i was thinking that I needed to buy a whole lotta stuff for lost wax casting-
I'd like to find out how to make a mount for gems!
Nice ring
This is awesome guys!!! Great work again!!!
Very nice and interesting video. I learned a lot of new things from this tutorial. Love this video. Thank you.
Beautiful work!!
My husband and I laughed at the spray paint. Nice vid. Thanks.
This is fun and cool
you could pour wax into your silicone and create a higher temp mold from that a la Grant Thompson if you want a more durable ring
That looks great. I was wondering if you might try castign the ring in Plaster. I personally would want to try and make the ring from Scrap gold, which I am sure is too hot for the Silicone mold. Though I could use your method and remake the Warhammer 40K figures that are now made of plastic and cast them in Pewter like they are meant to be.
Try with sand. Plaster is not ideal and can cause a lot a problem. You can find a few video with sand casting on RUclips. Give it a try !
Has the ring held up since the almost 4 years you cast it?
It sure has! I just polish it and re-apply the enamel every once in a while
@@punishedprops that's awesome. I'm going to try and make wedding bands as well. Thanks
Deadly! Do the 'Halo' ring ☺
You could sell these on Etsy, they look awesome!
Do you think it is possible to create a 3D designed Cuban Chain and print it from form 2 wax resign and cast it right away?
I've been dying to do exactly this with some Threepio parts. want to do aluminum so it'll be a few more steps. I'm going to sneak in and use that printer went you're not looking. ;)
Try using casting sand so you can make it in a stronger metal but I don’t know if it will get all the detail cause I’ve never cared anything
Think that mold would resist silver being casted?
How do you guys only have 180k subs. Seriously?! You're awesome! Keep up the great work.
Will do!
Love the shaxx armor😂
Thanks!
That came out awesome!!!! I'm totally doing this!
Hellooo..I must admit you have done an amazing job...This makes me curious to know how much time it took you to get this end product..
thank you . great videos.
i'm an old school jeweler (Hobby). I use the lost wax technique and cast in centrifuge casting machine blah blah blah… my question to you is that: your technique is cool but why you didn't instead use Sterling Silver and a simple torch to cast your ring??. Silver is also very cheap and last forever.
Silver gets a bit too hot for silicone I think, and I was plenty happy with pewter. I use my hands *often* so if I damage it, no worries!
Pretty cool stuff! I was wondering is there an app or software to convert a ring image to 3D file?
That is cool. Can that mold take any other metals well, like possibly Silver?
hey, I recently bought a Batman glove made out of latex by Rubies. it only comes in one size and it's too big. is there a way to shrink latex to your body?
i've got a cosplay problem. Where do you store your finished projects? I've been cosplaying long enough now that I'm having storage issues, since I can't just throw something like that away
Are you planning on using a stronger metal? like an iron or aluminum? I've seen sand as a type of mold
If you want to extend the life of your pewter ring. You should work-harden it using a tumbler.
Cool idea!
Pewter is a very soft material and gets damaged when using tools... so is gold and silver, iit looks amazing and using any fancier metal will only increase the price, not the durability or the hardness of it
The durability will last a lot longer with silver or gold. They are soft Metal but not has soft has pewter. I work every day in my workshop where I make knives with my silver ring and it's still in good shape.
that's... surprising, I asumed that pewter and gold and silver were in the same toughness range, just different reactivity with chemicals, good to know, I have a jeweler uncle tha can get me cheap silver I'll go with that if I decide to make one of these. thanks
The hardness of Tin (Pewder is made with 90/99% of tin) is 1.5 in the Moth Scale, Silver and Gold have an hardness of 2.5/3. The silver and gold used in jewelry are in fact an alloys who make the metal way more durable.
Sterling silver, used in jewelry is 92.5% silver, the rest is most likely copper. 18k gold is most likely 75% gold 15% copper and 10% silver.
I don't have the hardness of these alloys but it make the jewelry a lot stronger. I can see scratches on my ring but it's nothing too big, I'm pretty sure i could polish them off.
I you can have silver for cheap go for it, even if you don't use it, you can resell it easily !
This is incredible!!!!! I have a jewelry design but i need help making it...could you help me??
Did you use form2 3d printer? I thought elagoo mars is a really good printer?
We have a Form 2 so that's what I used, but I have heard good things about the Mars!
That is so awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks!
Hey Bill, did something a bit similar lately I aim for more rings. Just would like to know if you have any update on how it kept shape in time as it's pewter. (Pewter or solder btw ? Is pewter not dangerous with the lead in it thus maybe stronger than solder ?)
+Ritin Kornas This is lead free pewter. It keeps shape OK. It does get beat up a bit, but I can cast more if it gets destroyed.
Ok so still in good shape ! :)
I think the thickness or width are key parameters here, is too thin it will break super easily in pewter :s by experience.
Thank you for the answer ! :)
Have a sunny sunday !
I just purchased form 2 today. Can you use regular resign or do you have to use cast resign to make it into jewelry?
thank you so much. Thumbs up!
Know of any sites , with wedding band cast files 🙏🏻
My Precious
Skyrim coins? I would totally love to see those!
Bananpogo
That would be pretty cool
+BlueBunnY You called it... I have them...! conctact mee...
I know this from a while ago but I only just found it. I'm wanting to make some viking beard beads. Did you have to make your design so it curved to match the ring's curve?
+ImaginationToForm I'm not quite sure what you're asking.
So form 2 is preferable for jewelry? Or can a normal 3d printer work?
If you want to go the cheap way, use wax. Make your ring out of wax and cast it like in the video. The Form 2 cost 4000$ is way too expensive if you're not made of money.
A cheaper, PLA printer could do the trick but you will need to work a lot to have a good result.
If you only want to make jewelry, stick to the traditional method and go for the Wax.
GREAT video! thanks for sharing the process. Very inspiring :-) :-) :-)
Awesome video! I am going to order my stuff to do this soon. Now what about a design.....hmmmmm
can you use this mold for silver?
Would that mold work for fine silver?
I don't believe so. Pewter JUST works because it has such a low melting point and doesn't get as hot as other metals
what app did you use in layout?
Did uou use SLA or DLP for printing them?
What could I use to cast silver rings?
I'm not sure what silversmiths use, but I believe silver gets too hot for silicone
is it possible to quench the ring to make it harder?
Not really.
SwompyGaming you mean Heat treating, quenching is a method for relief after heat treating. No you can't harden pewter. It just possible to heattreat carbon steels. Plz forgive my bad English and explanation but I hope I helped you
Doktor Frankenstein No I mean quenching, YOU got them mixed up.
SwompyGaming XD good luck
No, quench hardening does only work for iron based alloys.
What ultimaker did you use that gave you a resolution and accuracy of an SLA printer?!?!?
It was the Ultimaker 2+ Extended. I wouldn't say it's the SAME resolution as the Form 2, but it definitely did an amazing job.
How much money in resin do you think it costs just to print that ring he showed? I hear it's .15 cents per milliner so would that be 15 bucks about?
I probably used like 10mL, so closer to $1.50.
Probably could have skipped the silicone step. I would be interested to see what would happen if you took just the 3D print and bury it in very fine sand then pour the molten metal in it. It should melt the plastic ring replacing it with metal
I've heard of people doing that with PLA plastic and aluminum. I have no idea if this resin off the Form 2 would vaporize. Also I don't think the pewter gets hot enough to get the job done. Soooooo if it was a PLA print and you were casting in aluminum, that would probably work. The benefit of making the silicone mold is the repeatability with a low melt metal like pewter.
Could you use the Ultimaker for a Lost Wax casting mold? A little plaster and a quick and dirty little crucible could cast those things in Silver or Gold.
Would love to see you do something along those lines. Had some fun in the past myself and it's really rewarding to cast in precious metals.
Punished Props Aluminum is supposedly extremely toxic when casting/melting so take the proper steps. The being said, I'm certain you can work up some awesome things.
I'd like to see you possibly incorporate cast metal components in your high end builds. Something small but prominent that can show off a huge diversity in materials and construction techniques.
good video. what printer do u use ? thank you !
I have several printers. The Ultimaker is one of my favorites.
I am a time traveler visiting from seven years in the future.
You are still married.
You will make a new ring to replace this one since it has gotten worn down.
De-gas, you must!😊
Tools and engineering are totally metaphysical! Totally helpful! You are tuned in to the Universe around you! Cheers!
use silver or gold possible ?
I'm not sure. Their melting points are probably different and the silicone may not be up to it.
Great Vid!
what about painting with metalic airbrush paint ?
You can definitely do that. Although the paint would eventually wear off a ring if you wear it every day.
Once I Clicked on this I cannot look away
Just a heads up to everyone, Pewter is a mixture of soft metals, mostly tin but may contain lead!!! Be sure to check to make sure you are not purchasing pewter with lead and making jewelry. I hope Bill's doesn't have any lead XD
Punished Props That's a relief! Who am I supposed to watch make props on youtube if Mr.Chinbeard himself gets lead poisoning!!
Cool
Could that silicon handle aluminum?
Punished Props o darn. Is there any silicon that can go up against hotter temps?
make the one ring to rule them all. [Lord of the Rings]
its been made :)
wait... where, when, who, how?
www.thingiverse.com/thing:313883
Files cut on the forward stroke only and should never be used in a sawing motion.
Form make an evap resin you can lost resin cast with sand
I‘d love to start doing that but I‘d need a place to do it as well as the whole molding equipment :/
Start small! you don't have to acquire supplies all at once
why didnt u just cast it in gold ?
True?
Hi Great video But pewter is a lead based alloy. if you need to learn how to make a silver or gold ring give me a e-mail
thanks
Nice video...We work with 3D software development. What your current software? We are looking for collaborators!
is pewter healty for human skin?!. pewter includes lead I think.
There are a few different lead-free pewter blends. Best to look for those when making anything.
Use some silver instead of pewter.
Why not get it done in silver?? This would cost $140 to get made in silver, I understand the process is interesting but seems that it's not really a cost effective experiment.
Notification squad
put a clear coat on the ring
It's B e a uuuuuuutiful
Your welcome
How about Hircine's ring from Skyrim.
I would remove it, then wash your hands before eating. Pewter contains led, and you don't want to eat that.
The pewter we use is lead free.
looks great but you should never wear rings around machinery. trust me i train safety for living that is a good way to lose a finger
but that being said you could always 3d print a breakaway ring out of ninja flex or something like that for when your in the shop.
I hope for you that that metal doesn't have nickle in it.
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Here's everything we have on 3D printing: punishedprops.com/3d-printing/
Or old busted hotness
metal casting......Jewelry ? with tin ahahahahah ! no Serious !
Hey it works! The wedding band I cast from pewter is worn every day and it's still holding up 1.5 years later.
made one wedding ring? what about your wife's?
What wife?