For those complaining about the stiffness of the leather - that does not make it a low quality leather. On the contrary, higher quality leather is supposed to be stiff so that it can adapt to its wearing lifetime as it is bent, worn, broken into, and as it absorbs moisture and oils and is just generally used to which then it will get more pliable and soft. Lower quality, AKA "Genuine Leather" which is the lowest quality, has to be treated with more processes such as fake tumble patterns and chemicals coats that give it that "buttery" feel. SOURCE: I'm part of the gay leather community in NYC.
I wonder if this loud and opinionated “reviewer” actually knows ANYTHING about sneakers, Jordans, or leather. I’ve watched a few of his reviews and they’ve all been so off the mark. Thanks but no thanks - I’ll be sticking with Chris and Weartesters who keeps it classy, informed, and low-key (besides being an encyclopedia on Jordans) and Heskicks who actually worked and designed at Nike and so knows what’s up. Even DNAShow is better informed! This obnoxious reviewer at least has an apropos name to match his style suited for his comically inept audience: “Foamer”.
Nah dummies who only buy plastic leather shoes have been led to believe. Anybody buying real leather kicks know Jordan 1s are subpar leather shoes especially the tumbled leather gimmick.
@Kenneth The Golden Child all these unnecessary collabs and colorways just annoy the shit outta me lol, especially the Jordan mids they've been putting out 😂
When you bought a baseball glove as a kid was it already broke in? I'm asking because I have these and I am super happy that Jordan brand used real full grain leather because these will last forever and I can wear the hell out of them. The newer 1's are nice fresh out the box but breakdown way to fast. I wore my reverse bred's today and am loving the creases that are starting to form. I'm 44 years old and had a pair of 85's and many other hi-tops in my day and it was a bitch to break em in but when you did they were the best!
Issam Kassab you hit the nail on the head!!! If a rookie or prime Jordan would’ve worn 1s made on the same quality of retroes he’d easily destroy shoes on the court. They’re too soft but these you gotta wear and break them in because they’re tight, thick leather not that soft stuff we’re spoiled on!
Also the mid sole pattern is different from the 1’s of more recent. Besides stiffness of leather has nothing to do with quality of leather. Thus it’s the way they were in 1985 slightly thicker cut of real leather
Got em on SNKRS app! The shoes are amazing, but for some reason, I appreciated the packaging and the dust bags for this shoe more 😆. The dust bags feel great and the leather smell just hits you when you pull it out of the box
Maybe the leather feels “stiff” and “low quality” because it’s REAL LEATHER! My bloodlines were buttery soft out of the box. Logically, why would Jordan cut corners on the limited ‘85 highs over the GR on sale Bloodlines? My guess is that these are made to last and you have to break it in like a baseball glove!
NonLegit Nation for sure. I’d pay $500-$600 for a Chicago ‘85 High. But not for these Ronald McDonald looking shoes. Nope, no sir. Limit them to 23 pairs if you wan’t, I’m not even paying $100 for them...
SwAggY P its real leather, same material they used for og pairs, people always want the the most similar thing to an og pair and when they give it to us people complain. 🤦🏼♂️
@@AlgareteKicks oh ok see I haven't seen them in hand yet but it's true. They def dope but I'm og guy a and I'm sneakers guy for years I started selling shoes in footaction wen I was 13 in 1999 and the shoes are not made the same anymore I can contest to that much and I have lots of pairs from 93 and up that I still wear and they quality and materials are way dif and do vary. I will trust foams review and I'm going based of his word I'm thinking of pulling the trigger that's for sure I want either these or the Travis j lows. Anyone can help me find a pair for a good resell price size 9 ?
@@AlgareteKicks and people need to understand to make something exactly how it was made many years ago is pretty impossible if u ask me first off dif machines did methods dif people making them and the year the era can't be duplicated it's just not realistic people. I use to drive myself crazy about that stuff like oh look how the shoes shaped it off look at the colors the materials but that's cause times change fashion changes and things are changed tweeked or adjusted.
I'd have to say you're wrong on the quality side. I've held these in hand and the quality is better than any Jordan 1 I've ever seen. Real boot-like, sturdy, premium leather on this pair. The kind that you need to break in, the kind that molds to your foot. The soft, buttery, smooth leather is actually an indication of bad quality if anything. That is the kind that cracks with time and generally gets bad pretty fast with wear. Anyway, love the videos! Always eager to hear your opinion!
got em on the sneakers app and will never sell! these are just like my Sky jordans i had in 85, i couldn't get the air ones because i had a size 5 shoe
I love the music you used in this review. As far as the shoe goes, I really don’t like this colorway. I guess I am glad that it was this colorway and not the real bred 1 since it was so limited.
The more time goes by the more I want these shoes more. I wish it was the Original Bred Colorway in comparison to the reverse but the 85 shape is off the chain
Got em of Snkrs in a size 13. I really think they should be called black chicagos. I really like the quality on this shoe in hand doesnt feel cheap at all. Very glad i got these for retail and i will definitely wear these often
I got early access to a pair in the uk 🇬🇧 I’m happy with my pair. Feels vintage. People are complaining which is weird for me as there’s so many shoes before this and after coming soon. It kinda feels like people want to hate it just because they didn’t snag a pair 🤷🏽♂️
@@dougt.6415 I think it was actually generous. No one really needs a review of the 85. Jordan brand themselves put out press telling people leather quality was way above the normal and the work they put into this shoe. I think the way they handled it was best. How does the shoe actually feel and for the price does it seem worth it because now you'll only find it resale so they can't review it as a $200 shoe. So yeah obviously it's good, but is it $700-$1000 good.
Foamie I was hoping you would have done a review of the AJ1 defiant tour yellow’s I heard the leather was really good...I know it wasn’t a smash but it was better than the couture IMO
I didn’t get a pair . These are very close to the OG. I had the blue and black OG pair in the mid 80s as a kid . I would love to have these but I think all the new 1s will be cut this way . It’s such a better look compared to retros.
Doom Gang thanks for the input! I’ve been eyeing the bloodlines. Quality looks really nice! There’s just something different about the leather on the shadows that’s just really dope!
got a pair of these jawns from a cook group, paid my homie 450 for them shits. I dig the shoe. haven't even laced em up yet. the vintage details are awesome. more than likely going to wear these out summer time.
Check sneaker news video he got an 85 version to review and compare. I got them for retail and they’re on StockX and after watching your video I raised the price because I do like them and if I part ways it’ll be for a pretty penny
I have this but the version in the back says ''Since'' 85, ( bought them at the nike outlets about 14 years ago ) color wise they are still great and they barely have scratches, the white rubber part at the bottom has some glue stains due to the soles that came off i just have to put the soles back together and try to clean the soles with some good solution for that but other than that they stil pretty wearable, i do want to sell them some day in the near future, do you have an idea of the ones i am talking about and if yes, for how much you think i can sell them for?
I’d say dead on to the OG . I remember my black Toes in 85 . They and almost every other sneaker on the market had a thick tough leather . My dad use to tell me to rub mink oil on the leather to get it soft and reduce cracking lol. I heard these are real leather so more or less will last 30 years easy
They would sit on shelves just like the bloodlines if the “LIMITED” stamp was not put on them. Hypebeast prices smh! They are worth what people are willing to pay! I personally wouldn’t pay over retail. I’ll just make a pair. 🤷🏾♂️
i purchased mine for $450 and couldn't be happier to get them for that price..i had to add on come extra services for some added gun work but i got the deal done.
Anybody else have sizing issues with these?!? I copped TTS and they are much tighter than a regular Jordan 1. I thought about flipping my pair and going up 1/2 a size.
There wasn't tumbled leather on anything in 1985 unless you bought a blocked bomber jacket/Goosedown and back then no one wanted a Jordan 1 everyone was rocking shells and or puma baskets with the fat laces. 🤷♂️ So yes these are a good representation of the original Jordan 1 if you can call it that
Just paid 650 for a pair on flight club...been wanting a pair since they came out tge prices is fluctuating big time...im thinking prices will definitely be bck in the 1000s by mid 2021
I recently picked up a pair of 1985 Chicago's and the leather on them are the exact same as these new 85' High Reverse Breds. Thick, and will last 35+ years. I bought mine used but they are still in very nice shape for a 35 year old pair. Im assuming by trying to replicate the quality they brought back the thick leather and id assume thats why the old pair have lasted this long due to the thick leather and hand crafted soles like the OG 85's. Everything outside of 1985 was machine made even the soles. So people knock this leather bc of the thickness and stiffness but once you break them in(like my OG 85's) they become buttery. So yea, shoes are made to be worn not sit on a shelf. These that you reviewed are on the way to me now and are going straight to my feet so i can break in! Here the link to mine(before i cleaned them up) : imgur.com/gallery/WLhe2rn EDIT: Paid 650$ StockX on these :(
For those complaining about the stiffness of the leather - that does not make it a low quality leather. On the contrary, higher quality leather is supposed to be stiff so that it can adapt to its wearing lifetime as it is bent, worn, broken into, and as it absorbs moisture and oils and is just generally used to which then it will get more pliable and soft.
Lower quality, AKA "Genuine Leather" which is the lowest quality, has to be treated with more processes such as fake tumble patterns and chemicals coats that give it that "buttery" feel.
SOURCE: I'm part of the gay leather community in NYC.
I wonder if this loud and opinionated “reviewer” actually knows ANYTHING about sneakers, Jordans, or leather. I’ve watched a few of his reviews and they’ve all been so off the mark.
Thanks but no thanks - I’ll be sticking with Chris and Weartesters who keeps it classy, informed, and low-key (besides being an encyclopedia on Jordans) and Heskicks who actually worked and designed at Nike and so knows what’s up. Even DNAShow is better informed!
This obnoxious reviewer at least has an apropos name to match his style suited for his comically inept audience: “Foamer”.
The OG's never had tumbled leather. We've been led to believe since 2015 that tumbled leather on a Jordan 1 is the utmost.
Facts
People don't know. I'm surprised foamer didn't either.
Fun fact, most of the leather on the shattered backboards is synthetic.
Nah dummies who only buy plastic leather shoes have been led to believe. Anybody buying real leather kicks know Jordan 1s are subpar leather shoes especially the tumbled leather gimmick.
@@McStrokeAvision A lot of the leather is synthetic too, even the nice looking leather.
Mannn Jordan brand needs to stop playing and retro the natural gery 1's and finish the metallic 1 series
@Kenneth The Golden Child all these unnecessary collabs and colorways just annoy the shit outta me lol, especially the Jordan mids they've been putting out 😂
Yo I agree the metallic series are nice. I'd really like to see a purple or green pair release
My point exactly!
Been searching for the Neutral Lows for a minute. Such an underrated cw
Funny is that those released with the Royals back in 02-03.
They're worth a grand? Nope, still want the bred 1's and chicagos
Chicago's would be worth a rack if I couldnt pick up retail, no cap.
@@JayyBlaze216 maybe more for both in some sizes but i would say the color blocking on the two were better than these
Nah, now it's less than 600
Jordan Brand you hearing that?
@@a.ffirmative good to know
When you bought a baseball glove as a kid was it already broke in? I'm asking because I have these and I am super happy that Jordan brand used real full grain leather because these will last forever and I can wear the hell out of them. The newer 1's are nice fresh out the box but breakdown way to fast. I wore my reverse bred's today and am loving the creases that are starting to form. I'm 44 years old and had a pair of 85's and many other hi-tops in my day and it was a bitch to break em in but when you did they were the best!
Issam Kassab you hit the nail on the head!!! If a rookie or prime Jordan would’ve worn 1s made on the same quality of retroes he’d easily destroy shoes on the court. They’re too soft but these you gotta wear and break them in because they’re tight, thick leather not that soft stuff we’re spoiled on!
If someone THINKS they're worth that amount and I'm the seller, I'm not gonna argue. Neither will my back account!
A grand for these shoes naw man I better be able to levitate
If it was a GR there would be no hype and they'd resell for 275.
Cap
Resell for retail honestly. These shoes are average Jordan 1s look wise. Put a limited stamp and a story to them, and they 1k lol.
Thaaaats debatable
Facts
BIG FACTS
This pair along with the “new beginnings” pack. Nice pieces put in collection if you can cop for retail but definitely not worth the $1000+ hype. NOPE
to be honest whit you,if i have 1G i pay for new begenning ,but i don't have......i'm gone try to buy'them.
Also the mid sole pattern is different from the 1’s of more recent. Besides stiffness of leather has nothing to do with quality of leather. Thus it’s the way they were in 1985 slightly thicker cut of real leather
Got em on SNKRS app! The shoes are amazing, but for some reason, I appreciated the packaging and the dust bags for this shoe more 😆. The dust bags feel great and the leather smell just hits you when you pull it out of the box
@NonLegit Nation smell from a new pair of 1s is amazing
Maybe the leather feels “stiff” and “low quality” because it’s REAL LEATHER! My bloodlines were buttery soft out of the box. Logically, why would Jordan cut corners on the limited ‘85 highs over the GR on sale Bloodlines? My guess is that these are made to last and you have to break it in like a baseball glove!
yes, these are designed to be like the original pair in 85..thick, stiff leather. I mean, its a bball shoe, it needs to have some form to it
They suck and the colorblocking is trash. These are an L. RIP to those who overpaid
NonLegit Nation for sure. I’d pay $500-$600 for a Chicago ‘85 High. But not for these Ronald McDonald looking shoes. Nope, no sir. Limit them to 23 pairs if you wan’t, I’m not even paying $100 for them...
They're like a perfect Jordan 1 but still not worth 1,000 bucks
Word get the cut right but the material off. Nike always doing that giving us half of what the real Jordan heads want.
SwAggY P its real leather, same material they used for og pairs, people always want the the most similar thing to an og pair and when they give it to us people complain. 🤦🏼♂️
@@AlgareteKicks oh ok see I haven't seen them in hand yet but it's true. They def dope but I'm og guy a and I'm sneakers guy for years I started selling shoes in footaction wen I was 13 in 1999 and the shoes are not made the same anymore I can contest to that much and I have lots of pairs from 93 and up that I still wear and they quality and materials are way dif and do vary. I will trust foams review and I'm going based of his word I'm thinking of pulling the trigger that's for sure I want either these or the Travis j lows. Anyone can help me find a pair for a good resell price size 9 ?
@@AlgareteKicks and people need to understand to make something exactly how it was made many years ago is pretty impossible if u ask me first off dif machines did methods dif people making them and the year the era can't be duplicated it's just not realistic people. I use to drive myself crazy about that stuff like oh look how the shoes shaped it off look at the colors the materials but that's cause times change fashion changes and things are changed tweeked or adjusted.
SwAggY P yeah i got them bro, and you can tell is 100% leather, they dont use real leather no more. I got em retail prize but size 11.
Yo that music u got going on in the background is bangin!! Some smooth sh@t
I'd have to say you're wrong on the quality side. I've held these in hand and the quality is better than any Jordan 1 I've ever seen. Real boot-like, sturdy, premium leather on this pair. The kind that you need to break in, the kind that molds to your foot. The soft, buttery, smooth leather is actually an indication of bad quality if anything. That is the kind that cracks with time and generally gets bad pretty fast with wear. Anyway, love the videos! Always eager to hear your opinion!
Clean I pick these up over all star weekend as well . Had to come thru and make sure I got all the knowledge before I upload my video lol
One of the best channels man 💯
got em on the sneakers app and will never sell! these are just like my Sky jordans i had in 85, i couldn't get the air ones because i had a size 5 shoe
These are a must have for the collection
I pulled out my 2001 Breds and wore em. I gotta say the rec laces on these are 🔥 and I prefer the red to black .
No. At the end of the day, they’re just leather and rubber shoes. Don’t get me wrong I am a sneaker head but after all they are just shoes.
So true.
history and art brother nothing you can say can take that away
@@slinertheonegod2211 Sure, and that is why JB and Nike Marketing are very smart to keep profiting on those "values".
Fuck you
Get ‘em for resale, worth the wait tho 🤞🏽💯🔥
I love the music you used in this review. As far as the shoe goes, I really don’t like this colorway. I guess I am glad that it was this colorway and not the real bred 1 since it was so limited.
I have compared these to my OG 85 Breds and they seem to be super close if not spot on. They’re not for everyone but they good enough for me.
The more time goes by the more I want these shoes more. I wish it was the Original Bred Colorway in comparison to the reverse but the 85 shape is off the chain
Dope, straight forward video as usual, that fkn beat in background!!!! 🔥🔥💯
Salute from Phinix Blahk
S S what’s phinix blahk?
Got my pair from the SNKRS App... very dope in my opinion !
Another Great Video Brother!!!!!!!!
Got em of Snkrs in a size 13. I really think they should be called black chicagos. I really like the quality on this shoe in hand doesnt feel cheap at all. Very glad i got these for retail and i will definitely wear these often
Love them foamie, got them at in store raffle in 🇪🇺 for personal at retail 🙏🏽
These are fire not in to the hype but definitely love these
That background music was dope.
I feel like in a few months they are going to go up like crazy
Hmmmmmmm nah
I got early access to a pair in the uk 🇬🇧 I’m happy with my pair. Feels vintage. People are complaining which is weird for me as there’s so many shoes before this and after coming soon. It kinda feels like people want to hate it just because they didn’t snag a pair 🤷🏽♂️
Nah bruh. The shoe really sucks 😂
I thought the same Mikey
quality is nothing special neither is the colourway
1’s are my favorite. But the whole release behind this just makes it a 6/10. Something like this should be available for everyone
Lucky to get a pair from SNKRS. Gonna pimp ‘em. Definitely look sicker with the black laces IMO.
Passed on them. waiting for this weekend to strikeout on the off-white 5s 😣
almost 500k subs... congrats!
Old video, but what's this beat in the background?
good to know, its worth giving it some thought
These are a work of art
No doubt best RUclipsr so far.....thanks for not loving evey hype shoe when reviewing them!
Had to see what ol buckets had to say about em
Buckets.. scale from 1-10
Buckets:”We’ll uhh they look like a classic sneaker”
So.... that’s like ah N slash A non applicable?
Buckets:”Yah”
😂😂😂😂
What a cop out rating
@@dougt.6415 I think it was actually generous. No one really needs a review of the 85. Jordan brand themselves put out press telling people leather quality was way above the normal and the work they put into this shoe. I think the way they handled it was best. How does the shoe actually feel and for the price does it seem worth it because now you'll only find it resale so they can't review it as a $200 shoe. So yeah obviously it's good, but is it $700-$1000 good.
i have nothing really more to add. your opinion on the j's is pretty much aligned with mine.
Foamie I was hoping you would have done a review of the AJ1 defiant tour yellow’s I heard the leather was really good...I know it wasn’t a smash but it was better than the couture IMO
Got em on snkrs size 14. I absolutely love them 10/10.
MPLS_ Sole tried for a size 14, ended up paying $610 on stock for my size 14 😢 congrats on your W
@@JohnSmith-fk7cq man that sucks. Thanks
Your background music is always fresh. What is the one in this video called?
Copped a pair for 400.00... like you said that was my max limit... love them for the collection!
I didn’t get a pair . These are very close to the OG. I had the blue and black OG pair in the mid 80s as a kid . I would love to have these but I think all the new 1s will be cut this way . It’s such a better look compared to retros.
man y'all need an award the for choice of music alone!!!
Every video, "ah the volumes kinda low let me turn in up like one level"
"HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE WORKSHOP"
Bit the whole clip and bought a few pairs resell, we'll see how it goes InShaAllah
I bought the Gym Red High Strap 1s and some aftermarket laces for all of $134, and they look pretty damn similar to these thousand-dollar Js.
What retro 1 has similar leather quality to the shadows? Shadow 1s are my favorite 1s and I’m looking to buy another 1s with the same leather
Michael Maldonado Bloodlines, Hyper Royals, Gatorades, Sails, and Bred Toes all have amazing leather quality.
Doom Gang thanks for the input! I’ve been eyeing the bloodlines. Quality looks really nice! There’s just something different about the leather on the shadows that’s just really dope!
Michael Maldonado Bloodlines are so worth it. One of the best sneakers of 2019. They’re a neutral shoe yet that hint of red looks dope af.
So crispy in person. Anyone whose hating on them hasn’t seen them
We just traumatized from our SNKRS experience
I think there alright looking but there not worth 1k.
Snap - def not. Maybe they’ll go up to 800 if you hold on to them for a year or 2
Jordan Wright yea that’s true.
Im holding on to mine. Theyll be worth more.
got a pair of these jawns from a cook group, paid my homie 450 for them shits. I dig the shoe. haven't even laced em up yet. the vintage details are awesome. more than likely going to wear these out summer time.
Got a W in size 13 🔥🔥!
How much would you guys pay for the bred 1a? Really want 1 but it's expensive AF.
Check sneaker news video he got an 85 version to review and compare. I got them for retail and they’re on StockX and after watching your video I raised the price because I do like them and if I part ways it’ll be for a pretty penny
Buckets always steals the show with his one liners 😂
Lmaooo hilarious 😂😂😂😂
I’m definitely copping, just waiting to see how low the go
I’d rather have 2 pairs of Chicagos than this pack even, but to each his own
I have this but the version in the back says ''Since'' 85, ( bought them at the nike outlets about 14 years ago ) color wise they are still great and they barely have scratches, the white rubber part at the bottom has some glue stains due to the soles that came off i just have to put the soles back together and try to clean the soles with some good solution for that but other than that they stil pretty wearable, i do want to sell them some day in the near future, do you have an idea of the ones i am talking about and if yes, for how much you think i can sell them for?
They HAVE to be broken in to look nice. DS makes them look cheap, ironically.
I’d say dead on to the OG . I remember my black Toes in 85 . They and almost every other sneaker on the market had a thick tough leather . My dad use to tell me to rub mink oil on the leather to get it soft and reduce cracking lol. I heard these are real leather so more or less will last 30 years easy
oh hey we follow the same channels lol
I was fortunate enough to get them for retail but missed out on everything else oh well and they're not worth a rack
Rather put down on bred toes or Banned. Those Unite 3s are dope. So happy there were a million releases so I could actually cop a pair.
Buckets- “ I do not “ 😂😂
Love that jazzy intro
Hit on the SNKRS app in my size 14 they're 🔥,blessed to get blessed
Love that you put the show name/model in the title of the video. More of this.
I have a pair and they are awsome. I love the og shape. I got them from Kickz Berlin for retail in a raffle. Rock em
Sneaker news has a very detailed video on these kicks!
@Foamer Simpson where do we grab the Valentines Day Hoodies?
In my opinion the leather quality on my pair is fantastic and the leather is thicker than normal definitely not thin in any means.
Very nice camera shots
They would sit on shelves just like the bloodlines if the “LIMITED” stamp was not put on them. Hypebeast prices smh! They are worth what people are willing to pay! I personally wouldn’t pay over retail. I’ll just make a pair. 🤷🏾♂️
Shalako Cumberbatch this color way would never sit like bloodlines
cheesychristiann I guess we would never know now.
@@shalakocumberbatch5056 na we do know. Wouldnt sit like bloodlines
Wrong
Chicago colorways never sit but I get what you mean.
Hey Mr. Foamer, what do you think is more worth it? The Jordan 1 85 or the Off White Jordan 5?
Nice video yea they dropping in price quickly
I want these so bad. They’re gorgeous
I like his hoodie, where can I get one?
I copped on SNKRS, not keeping though because I hate black toe boxes.
what's the music called in background?
I have a pair or Jordan 1 High Straps that, once you take out the straps, look almost exactly like these. And I got 'em for $127.
I got a size 9.5 on SNKRS and the box came back damaged😢😭😡 still a clean pair tho
i purchased mine for $450 and couldn't be happier to get them for that price..i had to add on come extra services for some added gun work but i got the deal done.
Some fire reverse bred 1
Anybody else have sizing issues with these?!? I copped TTS and they are much tighter than a regular Jordan 1. I thought about flipping my pair and going up 1/2 a size.
I have always been about the Chicago 1’s the 1985 ‘s and 1994 and the 2015’s are my favorites
There wasn't tumbled leather on anything in 1985 unless you bought a blocked bomber jacket/Goosedown and back then no one wanted a Jordan 1 everyone was rocking shells and or puma baskets with the fat laces. 🤷♂️
So yes these are a good representation of the original Jordan 1 if you can call it that
These instrumentals are beautiful. What’s it called
What song is in the background?
Goat got em in the 650 range right now
These are blazin hot 🔥🔥🔥 but no shoe is worth a G! Nope. Not one! Foamer always bringing the dopest videos!
Can You do a vídeo about J3's SE Fire Red? 🥺
Just paid 650 for a pair on flight club...been wanting a pair since they came out tge prices is fluctuating big time...im thinking prices will definitely be bck in the 1000s by mid 2021
Naw playa. It's around $500
I can’t get over how well the song in the background goes with this video I need this song in my life please
The background song is a copy of the song "Change" by Shadez of Brooklyn
I recently picked up a pair of 1985 Chicago's and the leather on them are the exact same as these new 85' High Reverse Breds. Thick, and will last 35+ years. I bought mine used but they are still in very nice shape for a 35 year old pair. Im assuming by trying to replicate the quality they brought back the thick leather and id assume thats why the old pair have lasted this long due to the thick leather and hand crafted soles like the OG 85's. Everything outside of 1985 was machine made even the soles. So people knock this leather bc of the thickness and stiffness but once you break them in(like my OG 85's) they become buttery. So yea, shoes are made to be worn not sit on a shelf. These that you reviewed are on the way to me now and are going straight to my feet so i can break in! Here the link to mine(before i cleaned them up) : imgur.com/gallery/WLhe2rn
EDIT: Paid 650$ StockX on these :(
Copped for retail on SNKRS, I think I'm gonna flip them and use the money I make off them to cop a pair of OG Bred 1s