From following your Instagram. You've improved massively to what you are here. You are a tough martial artist man. Admire your growth and consistency. ☮🔥👽
From Tuishou/Sanda point of view, the scoring criteria seem a little bit off. I understand the idea that if both fall to the ground, the person who is on top can get a point for initiating or potentially reversing. But clearly a clean throw where you're still standing up while your opponent is at your feet should cost more points!
That's called a dogfight or whizzer kick in English! It's a near universal technique but pops up the most in Iranian wrestling and Sumo. There even used to be fixed grip competitions in 'side hold' or dog fight.
Really Interesting... TBH, it looks like Judo, except with short sleeves and illegal grips. In IJF competition you cannot grab inside sleeve and you may grip same side od uniform for max 3 sec. unless you attempt throw. The taller player here would do very well in Judo competition. Cheers.
Yes I guess after a while, grappling sports will converge into what works well, within the limits of their rule set. I'm not at all pleased with what judo is turning into though. Shuai Jiao seems very interesting.
Lol that's like saying kickboxing is just boxing with illegal strikes. Judo is about throwing the guy in a very specific way, where Shuaijiao is basically just about getting the guy to the ground. It's like the difference between HEMA and kendo, in that one is more grounded in reality while the other one has rules that make it quite different from historical swordfighting.
Yeah there are rules associated with stalling that keep the action moving. Wrestling is wrestling. No Ippon changes things a bit but in essence isn't all grappling similar?
🤔 Looks like a combo between judo and wrestling without submissions. I see techniques from both, but I don’t see any hip tosses. Seems like such a niche martial art. I wonder why someone would be drawn to it. Also I wonder how a world class Chinese wrestler would compare to a world class American wrestler; the gi definitely slows down the play.
As somebody who practices it, there definitely are hip throws. The thing is, more is allowed im shuai jiao than in judo though, so purely because of the variety of throws and takedowns allowed, youre not going to see any one technique as much as in more specific rule sets. Theres also the question of personal style- i dont personally perform many hip throws because if i fuck up against a BJJ guy, theyll end my life cuz i gave them my back- i prefer throws that dont have as severe a punishment for failure. Also, its nit a combination of anything related to judo- this is the oldest grappling martial art im aware of, other than maybe Pankration (which nobody actually knows anymore). Its hard to say where shuai jiao originated, but the evidence ive seen points more towards mongolia, definitely not japan
Nice man, thank you for the clarification. I wasn’t saying that literally it’s a combination of judo and wrestling. I’m aware that many Japanese martial arts originated in China, not the other way around. It’s super cool that you’re doing something unique and not mainstream like BJJ
@Ari-cb2fn ah, my bad then- yeah, I have a thing for trying to preserve more niche styles purely for the sake of them not fading into obscurity/Mcdojo bs. No hate for the mainstream stuff tho
@@DubiousDubsI think Turkish Oil wrestling wins the title for longest running wrestling style with the same rules. If we're tracking lineage with rule changes allowed, all wrestling runs straight back to the dawn of mankind
Shuai Jiao is so cool
Man, Marshall is a beast. Would be honored to train with him.
From following your Instagram. You've improved massively to what you are here. You are a tough martial artist man. Admire your growth and consistency. ☮🔥👽
nicely done, Lavell.
@Rebelinthewindshaolin in the building!🤙🏿🤙🏿🤙🏿
From Tuishou/Sanda point of view, the scoring criteria seem a little bit off. I understand the idea that if both fall to the ground, the person who is on top can get a point for initiating or potentially reversing. But clearly a clean throw where you're still standing up while your opponent is at your feet should cost more points!
Lil bro keeps getting better by the day!
Lavell Marshall please Open An Shuai Jiao Academy in Florida."
Fuck FL
Very nice timing and execution!
He is on channel named *Mpower international association* showing some moves.
wow i never seen a reversal like that when the guy in blue captured his leg
Ya? In judo we call it uchi mata. Can’t grab legs in judo comps anymore but works well in bjj and wrestling.
That's called a dogfight or whizzer kick in English! It's a near universal technique but pops up the most in Iranian wrestling and Sumo. There even used to be fixed grip competitions in 'side hold' or dog fight.
the ref's kaishi pronunciation is a bit funny haha. good game!
I think is still ok. But the 停sound like Ding!
Lov it
0:40 awesome take down!!
Really Interesting... TBH, it looks like Judo, except with short sleeves and illegal grips. In IJF competition you cannot grab inside sleeve and you may grip same side od uniform for max 3 sec. unless you attempt throw. The taller player here would do very well in Judo competition. Cheers.
Yes I guess after a while, grappling sports will converge into what works well, within the limits of their rule set. I'm not at all pleased with what judo is turning into though. Shuai Jiao seems very interesting.
Lol that's like saying kickboxing is just boxing with illegal strikes. Judo is about throwing the guy in a very specific way, where Shuaijiao is basically just about getting the guy to the ground. It's like the difference between HEMA and kendo, in that one is more grounded in reality while the other one has rules that make it quite different from historical swordfighting.
Yeah there are rules associated with stalling that keep the action moving. Wrestling is wrestling. No Ippon changes things a bit but in essence isn't all grappling similar?
Good
interesting I hope there is a video explaining rules
DOES THIS AMAZING PERSON TRAIN AT THE CUPERTINO CLUB? That's driving distance for me!
As in Cupertino Stevens Creek Boulevard?
I see the same throws as judo is there anu difference besides the ropes??
Wrestling style takedowns are allowed, and there arent illegal grips like in judo
Excellent!!!
Are locks allowed?
I didn't know the ref needs to use Mandarin in Shuai Jiao matches, is it common?
I'm guessing it's tradition, like how people use Japanese for judo.
Is There any Shuai Jiao In Montreal Canada ? Anyone ??
We do a bit at my school. As part of the sparring and Sanda but there's not Pure Shuai Jiao school in the city that I know of
more entertaining than olympic judo
🤔 Looks like a combo between judo and wrestling without submissions. I see techniques from both, but I don’t see any hip tosses. Seems like such a niche martial art. I wonder why someone would be drawn to it. Also I wonder how a world class Chinese wrestler would compare to a world class American wrestler; the gi definitely slows down the play.
With all respect, as a BJJ guy, I’m sure they would kick my ass in stand up
As somebody who practices it, there definitely are hip throws. The thing is, more is allowed im shuai jiao than in judo though, so purely because of the variety of throws and takedowns allowed, youre not going to see any one technique as much as in more specific rule sets.
Theres also the question of personal style- i dont personally perform many hip throws because if i fuck up against a BJJ guy, theyll end my life cuz i gave them my back- i prefer throws that dont have as severe a punishment for failure.
Also, its nit a combination of anything related to judo- this is the oldest grappling martial art im aware of, other than maybe Pankration (which nobody actually knows anymore). Its hard to say where shuai jiao originated, but the evidence ive seen points more towards mongolia, definitely not japan
Nice man, thank you for the clarification. I wasn’t saying that literally it’s a combination of judo and wrestling. I’m aware that many Japanese martial arts originated in China, not the other way around. It’s super cool that you’re doing something unique and not mainstream like BJJ
@Ari-cb2fn ah, my bad then- yeah, I have a thing for trying to preserve more niche styles purely for the sake of them not fading into obscurity/Mcdojo bs. No hate for the mainstream stuff tho
@@DubiousDubsI think Turkish Oil wrestling wins the title for longest running wrestling style with the same rules. If we're tracking lineage with rule changes allowed, all wrestling runs straight back to the dawn of mankind
How Do they do against judo players
Two styles wear different gi. It must be interesting to try
See the video " Judo.vs.chinese wrestling( shuai Jiao)". It happened in a ring in Xu Xiadongs gym.
Depends on the Judoka.
Открытый ковёр по 3 разряду.
Both of them don't even realize to get the opponents hands off
Red has overhand; why would red ever want to? Blue is the one who failed to rectify his disadvantage
Shuia jiao
ruclips.net/video/T_rBi5wWEGI/видео.html
Good lord. I feel like I'm watching two judo white belts.
See the video " judo vs.chinese wrestling( shuai Jiao)". Llavel ( topknot in red ) try as ins MMA fighters including Kai Wu.
俩人都不知道蹬手...
俩人水平都不差，对方看的太死，蹬手等于给对方添力。
@@高文博-z9c 蓝方显然一直手上吃着亏呢 不蹬手强使动作，完全是自己把破绽给对方
@@尚武-i6s俩人差着功夫呢，红方拿住把之后是撑出去的，是两边的把都看紧。明显是推砖的基本功瓷实。蓝方除非俩手拆，一面拆根本拆不出来。要是蓝方撒一个把，去拆另外一个，等于输了把。常练摔跤都懂输跤不输把的道理 俩人实力有差距，把丢了直接被对方做大动作。
@@高文博-z9c 当然 是这么个理 兄弟在哪练呢
This is judo Judo without neowaza.
Is that all it takes to get a point ??? All I got to do is trip my opponent.??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tell me you’ve never wrestled without telling me you’ve never wrestled
This is not Chinese wrestling. This is MONGOLIAN WRESTLING
Mongolians are part of the 56 ethnic groups of Chinese so they are.
Chinese wrestling absorbed elements from Mongolian. That's one of the origins of Chinese wrestling. But these two are different.
bruh ,China destroy Mongolians
No, this is shuai jiao. Bokh uses different jackets
Mongolian wrestling has different rules
Os this Judo
Looks kinda elementary compared to Greco Roman