Interesting to hear the whole loyalty thing being preached about dealers. When most of those machines did not stick around but a few years . I always thought that Agco could have made a decent tractor between the Original Allis and the White line and then just filled in with deutz for under 120 horse. And even kept the big 4w allis tractors with Cummins or Cat power as a nice part of the line. A good friend was a dealer and kept Allis line up until the phase out of the Orange Agcos . He went to New Holland and Kept the Gleaner line til Agco got pissed and took it then he just signed on with Case . Ran Gleaner out of the area since he was about 30 minutes from East Moline. in his 1st year he traded 40 gleaners into Axial Flows
I growed up during this time. I was around the M,M2, L3,R40,50,R60,R52,R62, and R72 Gleaner combines of this time. We use to run two different AC 7000 tractors, a Deutz Allis 6250fwa, and a 9150FWA tractor. Good times
Deutz dropping the 8000 series line, painting the 9000 series Green when they first came out, and dropping the conventional Gleaner combines at least four years early really hurt them. I know several guys who loved the conventional combines but wanted nothing to do with the rotary combines especially after the N series. Our local dealer painted several 9000 series green tractors orange because some customers would not buy the green colored tractors. We demoed a green 9190 Deutz Allis that had been painted orange by the dealer. I really liked the 6250 we had but I think they just pushed the German design/body style a little to quickly on American customers. We never had any issues with the Deutz engines in combines but a lot of guys where glad when the Cummins came out as an option.
Love the video brings back memories growing up on the family farm. My dad bought a new Deutz Dx90 tractor when they came out. Great tractor grew up on that tractor alot of memories
I remember seeing a fair amount of those tractors and implements come out, there's still a few around but they never really took off around here. Cool video
Interesting video, I never cared for the American/European mergers, European met the needs of the European farmer, farmers here in my area tried these half breeds, and you see them in the fence rows. You still see the 60s 70s and 80s tractors working the fields.
That was a cool video! Just another sad example of big companies buying out a good company and ruining it like what happened to Oliver and so many others!!
The Deutz Allis KHD tractors are the best. We currently use two Deutz Allis 7120 tractors and a Deutz Allis 6150 as well as a Gleaner R40 with the Deutz air cooled engine. I am getting ready to close the deal on a green 9150 soon.
It’s sad to see all those tractor manufacturers gone if only some could have stuck it out for a little bit longer and produced some of the things they had come down the pipeline.
The truth is Deutz deemed the Allis tractor line inadequate and killed it since all they were after was a national North American dealer network. Realized after the fact they didn’t have a in house built tractor that met the requirements of the domestic market. So when they finally decided they needed to do something about it Deutz decided rather than doing anything with the Allis line they already owned it just made more sense to buy White rear ends and cabs to mate with Deutz engines, and thus the 9100 series was born. That’s the truth and the only ones butt hurt by it are the Allis guys that can’t get over the fact that AC ceased to exist in 1985 by their own doing. Doesn’t bother me at all. The original comment was just pointless and stupid. If you want to see orange go somewhere else where you can see orange. Don’t sit here and bitch about it.
How do you figure any of that is made up? Maybe you need to get a little education and go read the feature article in heritage iron issue 85 about the development of the 9100 series and what led up to it.
At least the agco white was still a white, Deutz allis had nothing in common with Allis Chalmers. The 8000 sereis allis chalmers was a good modern tractor, just needed a more durable motor in the bigger models, but nobody who ran Chalmers wanted anything to do with an ugly azz European puke green Deutz😆 They should of built off the 8000 sereis instead of abandoning it. If I sit in an 8000 sereis and then a 7800 deere you can see a lot of similarities
Was piss poor market research on Deutz part. Made so sense to kill the line since they had no high horsepower row crop tractors of their own to meet US market demands.
Deutz should have kept the 8000 series AC line. The biggest Deutz made at the time that was not a rebaged 8000 was a 7145 Deutz Allis which was around 145hp. We had a 7145 at the farm I worked at during my high school years. They where very crude in the cab compared to any other brand at the time. We bought an allis orange 9150 when they came out with the 9000 series and also demoed a 9190 Deutz Allis for a bit. I guess I am the odd ball but I loved the looks of that design. They where pretty good machines and had the White rear end. We had a good Deutz Allis dealer in our area and he sold a lot of tractors and combines. In this area at that time Deutz Allis had a good market share around here. When the dealer decided to get out of the AGCO business and sale used combines things quickly turned back to Case IH red and John Deere Green. White was not big in our area at the time due to lack of dealers.
Should forward a copy of this to the AGCO management, seeing how they swear up and down that AGCO does not stand for Allis Gleaner Company
I told my wife we could watch a double feature tonight but she rolled her eyes when I shared these movies 😄.
Love it
Thanks Ethan, I remember those Days in the 90's with all those colors n changes...
Interesting to hear the whole loyalty thing being preached about dealers. When most of those machines did not stick around but a few years . I always thought that Agco could have made a decent tractor between the Original Allis and the White line and then just filled in with deutz for under 120 horse. And even kept the big 4w allis tractors with Cummins or Cat power as a nice part of the line. A good friend was a dealer and kept Allis line up until the phase out of the Orange Agcos . He went to New Holland and Kept the Gleaner line til Agco got pissed and took it then he just signed on with Case . Ran Gleaner out of the area since he was about 30 minutes from East Moline. in his 1st year he traded 40 gleaners into Axial Flows
Enjoy your movies. Thank You,
Remember those tractors quite well even the combines and the equipment Cool little video
I growed up during this time. I was around the M,M2, L3,R40,50,R60,R52,R62, and R72 Gleaner combines of this time. We use to run two different AC 7000 tractors, a Deutz Allis 6250fwa, and a 9150FWA tractor. Good times
Deutz dropping the 8000 series line, painting the 9000 series Green when they first came out, and dropping the conventional Gleaner combines at least four years early really hurt them. I know several guys who loved the conventional combines but wanted nothing to do with the rotary combines especially after the N series. Our local dealer painted several 9000 series green tractors orange because some customers would not buy the green colored tractors. We demoed a green 9190 Deutz Allis that had been painted orange by the dealer. I really liked the 6250 we had but I think they just pushed the German design/body style a little to quickly on American customers. We never had any issues with the Deutz engines in combines but a lot of guys where glad when the Cummins came out as an option.
We went to Ford then New Holland after Allis went under but we still run Gleaner combines
Great films. Loved the Agco Allis and Agco White tractors. Definitely peak Agco right here.
Yep
Watching from Ireland. Brilliant video. Didn’t realise it was Allis Gleaner, in AGCO.
Yep
That was interesting. Looking forward to more of your videos about your projects and farming.
Thank you Ethan . I really enjoyed the history lesson. You really scored at the auction. Keep being yourself, keep the faith
Thanks
Awesome history! Thank you for the effort you put into share found history and stories!
Thanks for taking the time to restore these videos.
Thank U Mr.Ethan for bringing this to us all!
Love the video brings back memories growing up on the family farm. My dad bought a new Deutz Dx90 tractor when they came out. Great tractor grew up on that tractor alot of memories
Thanks for providing these videos, Ethan. So enjoyable.
Thanks so much for the videos. They are highly appreciated.
Thank you for sharing some amazing video’s
I remember seeing a fair amount of those tractors and implements come out, there's still a few around but they never really took off around here. Cool video
I sure enjoy this whole series you have been doing. Thanks, Ethan for sharing
Thanks for sharing Ethan. Michael
Thanks for a great tractor history video 👍🏾 I forgot all about the KHD an they were almost an hour south of me.
They are worth forgetting
Interesting video, I never cared for the American/European mergers, European met the needs of the European farmer, farmers here in my area tried these half breeds, and you see them in the fence rows. You still see the 60s 70s and 80s tractors working the fields.
That was a cool video! Just another sad example of big companies buying out a good company and ruining it like what happened to Oliver and so many others!!
Yep and our government lets the Merger and Acquisition still keep going and getting worse.
Awesome dude
The Deutz Allis KHD tractors are the best. We currently use two Deutz Allis 7120 tractors and a Deutz Allis 6150 as well as a Gleaner R40 with the Deutz air cooled engine. I am getting ready to close the deal on a green 9150 soon.
Learned a lot. Thanks for posting the video.
I'm not a farmer but I find these videos pretty cool
Wow... I miss the seperate tractors... Massey Ferguson
Massey Ferguson was not purchased by AGCO until 1994.
@@Fieldman12 okay and....
@@glennschlorf1285 That's why you don't see them in the video.
This was awesome thanks for sharing!
Great video!! Thanks,
Thanks for the video 👍.
Didn't AGCO acquire MF during this time frame as well? Great video, good to see these old films brought back to life. Cheers :)
In 94
Now were talking! LOL
Deutz🍻🚜🤩🥳🥰👍
It’s sad to see all those tractor manufacturers gone if only some could have stuck it out for a little bit longer and produced some of the things they had come down the pipeline.
Yep
I appreciate this as an AGCO shareholder. 👍🏻
Now it’s all fendt
That’s their plan.
What I don't understand is why AGCO gave their heritage brands the ax?
Brand identity
Very poor management
Nice
I wish it was a little more Allis and little less White....
So go to an Allis channel dumbass.
@@Oliver66FarmBoy truth seems to bother you
The truth is Deutz deemed the Allis tractor line inadequate and killed it since all they were after was a national North American dealer network. Realized after the fact they didn’t have a in house built tractor that met the requirements of the domestic market. So when they finally decided they needed to do something about it Deutz decided rather than doing anything with the Allis line they already owned it just made more sense to buy White rear ends and cabs to mate with Deutz engines, and thus the 9100 series was born. That’s the truth and the only ones butt hurt by it are the Allis guys that can’t get over the fact that AC ceased to exist in 1985 by their own doing. Doesn’t bother me at all. The original comment was just pointless and stupid. If you want to see orange go somewhere else where you can see orange. Don’t sit here and bitch about it.
@@Oliver66FarmBoy lol, that's funny, made up, and completely wrong
How do you figure any of that is made up? Maybe you need to get a little education and go read the feature article in heritage iron issue 85 about the development of the 9100 series and what led up to it.
At least the agco white was still a white, Deutz allis had nothing in common with Allis Chalmers. The 8000 sereis allis chalmers was a good modern tractor, just needed a more durable motor in the bigger models, but nobody who ran Chalmers wanted anything to do with an ugly azz European puke green Deutz😆 They should of built off the 8000 sereis instead of abandoning it. If I sit in an 8000 sereis and then a 7800 deere you can see a lot of similarities
Was piss poor market research on Deutz part. Made so sense to kill the line since they had no high horsepower row crop tractors of their own to meet US market demands.
@@Oliver66FarmBoy Damn germans always think they know better than everyone else🤣🤣
Deutz should have kept the 8000 series AC line. The biggest Deutz made at the time that was not a rebaged 8000 was a 7145 Deutz Allis which was around 145hp. We had a 7145 at the farm I worked at during my high school years. They where very crude in the cab compared to any other brand at the time. We bought an allis orange 9150 when they came out with the 9000 series and also demoed a 9190 Deutz Allis for a bit. I guess I am the odd ball but I loved the looks of that design. They where pretty good machines and had the White rear end. We had a good Deutz Allis dealer in our area and he sold a lot of tractors and combines. In this area at that time Deutz Allis had a good market share around here. When the dealer decided to get out of the AGCO business and sale used combines things quickly turned back to Case IH red and John Deere Green. White was not big in our area at the time due to lack of dealers.
The motor was actually quite durable