Commenting before watching to just chime in with a "HECK YEAH!" and to say, I already run my synths like they're broken. But I'm excited to listen to Sarah explain how she does it.
Weird sounds best sounds! This is going to be great. I've been listening to Sludge, Doom, Drone and Noise metal for like 30 years. I love feed back, buzzing overdriven amps crazy pedals, you name it. I just started messing with synths a couple years ago because I saw someone making crazy bleeps and blips and crazy, fuzzy screaches with a synth and I was hooked. Good stuff fren.
While I love modular, I love polyphony with my synths, and that's why I ended up getting the Korg Opsix. The cross-modulation possibilities between six different "operators" allows for creating patches that seem controlled and welcoming, but each one is just a fraction of a decibel away from sending the entire patch into noise, if not entirely breaking the synth itself and having to be powered back on. But it's that reactionary element of cause and effect in everything that makes a digital synthesized voice sound organismic and tangible.
Excellent video - love the way you’re explaining these complex sounds by breaking it down to their pieces one by one! I‘m preparing for a modular live show in 2 days - I‘ll patch some extra feedback cables now 🤩.
Can’t recommend using the NLC Clump matrix mixer for FM and Phase modulation patches. It’s great for utilizing cross modulation and feedback in your fm patches, and the fact it has a seperate vca for each point in the matrix means you can modulate all the different modulations with envelopes and lfos. Huge morphing patches are quite simple to set up.
Thanks for another great video! I recently explored this technique with Moog Mother-32 and Mavis semi-modulars got some pretty spectacular results. Just with those two, you have so many routing and modulation options. Fun stuff!
@@dschesters No, i am surprised that a classical trainied musician explores weird noise in such a serious way, i would expect them to look down on stuff like that.
Ever since the first Intellijel Shapeshifter came out, I’ve loved this type of patching. Very interesting with wavetables. Also love the Mindphaser module
😊 Awesome ! 💐🌺🌻 Thank you to all your works for us ! 🎼🎺🎵 GOOD LUCK ! And more ... 🍀🙏💮 I am watching ... all the videos around VCV Rack (and modular synth ...) and I'm learning. Tnx, thanks 💌
You should see about finding some older modules by Livewire. The Vulcan and Dalek modulators plus the Dual Cyclotron (probably too deep for most modern cases) were cross-modulating beasts. RIP Mike Brown.
Great examples and sounds in the video. It reminded me of the type of broken sounds Ciat Lonbarde excels at, and where these techniques are taken to new heights in Peter Blasser's circuits. For example the entire middle of the Cocoquantus is a giant cross-modulation. I think Sarah would be really happy in the CL world.
@@Varonno Love the plumbutter too, as well as pretty much anything PB has created, though have yet to dive into the Shbobo world. Did a deep dive on Plumbutter and wrote a guide for it in case you're interested.
Heh, some of these are awfully similar to the buzzes and distortions you’d get on FM radio going under a bridge in a car. I’ve gotten similar fragile moments of stability from the feedback parameter in my FM synth, but my big analogue-hybrid has a cross-mod slider too. I’ve not been able to get quite such wildness out of it though, I’m guessing they just restrained it to more of a sweet spot on that one. It gets fairly nasty on its high end of intensity but it’s not got quite the high-frequency squeal. (Hmm, maybe I’m not opening the analogue filter enough. Or its max cutoff is just a little low for those timbres. Or I’m not doing thin-enough pulse waves… More research definitely required! I tend to only apply it as an effect on that synth, rather than living in the unpredictability like in pure FM. Clearly I’ve not gone deep enough!)
Polysynth manufacturers: listen to us. The people want cross mod. The people want filter output as a mod matrix source. You wanted feedback? WE WANT FEEDBACK
amazing! i’ve been playing with modular synths for quite a while, but never plugged in this combination…well, mostly because from a sound engineering perspective, it’s about the greatest mistake you could possibly make. but you can get fantastic sounds, if you don’t blow the speakers!
I have 12 minutes of stereo thru zero cross modulation madness on my channel, for who is interested in this insanity. :) "Madness in the Assimilated" thank you!
I guess digital must be totally different to analog when it comes to cross modulation, because it's feedback - so programmers need to worry about recursive loops in their code, and in analog... would it mean that tiny non-linearities in the electronics sometimes get amplified?
And to the turbulence also… It’s the James Gleick book “chaos” that made chaotic systems fascinate me. Especially in music. But it can be paralleled to almost any aspect of our life.
Ummm. Nord Modular all in one plus microphone input. Guitar pedals…Lifetime of possibilities of chaos. A phone with apps as an oscillator? Saved you $1000 :)
The video I’ve been waiting for!! Yes 10000%!!!! Much love for the experimentalist mindset in these
Commenting before watching to just chime in with a "HECK YEAH!" and to say, I already run my synths like they're broken. But I'm excited to listen to Sarah explain how she does it.
I always love the juxtaposition of a soft-spoken, gentle voice, and absolutely mind-bending slaps to the face from instruments.
Amazing as always! A detailed introduction to the world of Power Electronics! Cross Modulation and filter feedback forever!!!
Weird sounds best sounds! This is going to be great. I've been listening to Sludge, Doom, Drone and Noise metal for like 30 years. I love feed back, buzzing overdriven amps crazy pedals, you name it. I just started messing with synths a couple years ago because I saw someone making crazy bleeps and blips and crazy, fuzzy screaches with a synth and I was hooked. Good stuff fren.
While I love modular, I love polyphony with my synths, and that's why I ended up getting the Korg Opsix. The cross-modulation possibilities between six different "operators" allows for creating patches that seem controlled and welcoming, but each one is just a fraction of a decibel away from sending the entire patch into noise, if not entirely breaking the synth itself and having to be powered back on. But it's that reactionary element of cause and effect in everything that makes a digital synthesized voice sound organismic and tangible.
I already love this new series in a major way
Excellent video - love the way you’re explaining these complex sounds by breaking it down to their pieces one by one! I‘m preparing for a modular live show in 2 days - I‘ll patch some extra feedback cables now 🤩.
Rad. Gonna like absorbing this series. X-mod's fun on 2 0-Coasts, or even a single unit. I like to use both. Have FUN!
Can’t recommend using the NLC Clump matrix mixer for FM and Phase modulation patches. It’s great for utilizing cross modulation and feedback in your fm patches, and the fact it has a seperate vca for each point in the matrix means you can modulate all the different modulations with envelopes and lfos. Huge morphing patches are quite simple to set up.
Thanks for another great video! I recently explored this technique with Moog Mother-32 and Mavis semi-modulars got some pretty spectacular results. Just with those two, you have so many routing and modulation options. Fun stuff!
So glad you found it inspiring!
DPO is the king of cross modulation madness
I’ve coaxed sounds out of that damn DPO that have no business coming out of an analog Osc
Plenty of good ideas here to play with, your mic sounds really nice too. You and hainbach sound so warm and easy to listen too.
This is one of the most clarifying videos for the music I want to make. Can't thank you enough!
Great to hear, you're welcome!
God thanks for this video my synth has been working so well and I’ve just desperately been trying to fix that
I still can't believe that you are a classical trained musician doing this. And explaining stuff in seriousness while making the weirdest noises.
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Can't tell if you are annoyed or what?
@@dschesters No, i am surprised that a classical trainied musician explores weird noise in such a serious way, i would expect them to look down on stuff like that.
There’s a long tradition of classically trained musicians in the avant-garde.
Super powerful and easy to understand 🤯 thank you!
Ever since the first Intellijel Shapeshifter came out, I’ve loved this type of patching. Very interesting with wavetables. Also love the Mindphaser module
There you go spilling all the beans. :p
This is so good! Thank you
😊 Awesome ! 💐🌺🌻 Thank you to all your works for us ! 🎼🎺🎵 GOOD LUCK ! And more ... 🍀🙏💮 I am watching ... all the videos around VCV Rack (and modular synth ...) and I'm learning. Tnx, thanks 💌
You should see about finding some older modules by Livewire. The Vulcan and Dalek modulators plus the Dual Cyclotron (probably too deep for most modern cases) were cross-modulating beasts. RIP Mike Brown.
Great examples and sounds in the video. It reminded me of the type of broken sounds Ciat Lonbarde excels at, and where these techniques are taken to new heights in Peter Blasser's circuits. For example the entire middle of the Cocoquantus is a giant cross-modulation. I think Sarah would be really happy in the CL world.
Plumbutter is great. Met him in 2012 and bought a Shnth
@@Varonno Love the plumbutter too, as well as pretty much anything PB has created, though have yet to dive into the Shbobo world. Did a deep dive on Plumbutter and wrote a guide for it in case you're interested.
i m gonna try this on the DFAM it sounds fun as hell
Hi Sarah, please do a video about your favourite songs. It would be great to hear which bands/artists pricked your ears up growing up.
I found spilling my beer on my synth does the job. I like using these "broken" sounds filtered and vca'd for percusive sounds. Thnaks for the tips!
good job. thanks!
Good description 👍
Great stuff, thankyou. Need to get a scope in XY mode going with this.
11:19 I don't know why, but that made me lol way to much. I just pictured someone really exited about something clapping out of control.
Wonderful! You're an inspiration.
Awesome! 👾🎶😎
Nice video, I love cross mod!
More like that Sounds cool.
Good stuff Sarah. What is that Serge panel behind you, I cannot see well.
I've actually been avoiding that for decades. Not weird sounds, I mean, but making my synth sound broken. I prefer to make them sound sweet. 🙂
boooooooooooooooooooo!
:)
Very crazy and awesome...
Fantastic! I had never considered monitoring the different output signals if one is FM-ing with something else. Cool! Have you played with a Benjolin?
I was just going to ask that! I've got three of the Ciat-Lonbarde "Peterlin" benjolins and one of the After Later Eurorack ones.
Soo cool ❤
everything about this rules
Nice video as always!! Btw, is there some different 259e revision? Why does one of it read Complex waveform..(like on 261e)?
Ah I can see that one did not have the memory bank it seems
Heh, some of these are awfully similar to the buzzes and distortions you’d get on FM radio going under a bridge in a car.
I’ve gotten similar fragile moments of stability from the feedback parameter in my FM synth, but my big analogue-hybrid has a cross-mod slider too. I’ve not been able to get quite such wildness out of it though, I’m guessing they just restrained it to more of a sweet spot on that one. It gets fairly nasty on its high end of intensity but it’s not got quite the high-frequency squeal. (Hmm, maybe I’m not opening the analogue filter enough. Or its max cutoff is just a little low for those timbres. Or I’m not doing thin-enough pulse waves… More research definitely required! I tend to only apply it as an effect on that synth, rather than living in the unpredictability like in pure FM. Clearly I’ve not gone deep enough!)
Sarah do you ever use IME Harvestman modules? Their great. Also the Tete/Tetrapad from Intellijel is an amazing controller.
Polysynth manufacturers: listen to us. The people want cross mod. The people want filter output as a mod matrix source.
You wanted feedback? WE WANT FEEDBACK
I’m gonna be the first person to figure out where I can install some patch point sockets in my etch a sketch and get some funky sounds.
Hi ✌🏻 …whats the Name of the Touchpad in the Background ?
Nasty gnarly in love 🎉
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amazing! i’ve been playing with modular synths for quite a while, but never plugged in this combination…well, mostly because from a sound engineering perspective, it’s about the greatest mistake you could possibly make. but you can get fantastic sounds, if you don’t blow the speakers!
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I have 12 minutes of stereo thru zero cross modulation madness on my channel, for who is interested in this insanity. :) "Madness in the Assimilated" thank you!
I guess digital must be totally different to analog when it comes to cross modulation, because it's feedback - so programmers need to worry about recursive loops in their code, and in analog... would it mean that tiny non-linearities in the electronics sometimes get amplified?
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no input mixing on steroids
Cross modulation is analogous to the chaotic feedback interactions between magnetic fields and tidal effects on two orbiting neutron stars.
And to the turbulence also… It’s the James Gleick book “chaos” that made chaotic systems fascinate me. Especially in music. But it can be paralleled to almost any aspect of our life.
Ummm. Nord Modular all in one plus microphone input. Guitar pedals…Lifetime of possibilities of chaos. A phone with apps as an oscillator? Saved you $1000 :)