Warship vs a 100-Foot Wave - USS Pittsburgh

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  • @00kt86
    @00kt86 2 года назад +397

    One of the most fun times I had in the Navy was when we went though a storm in the Indian Ocean. I was on a tin-can DDG 31 that in 1978-1979 was deployed to the Persian Gulf because of the Iranian hostage crisis (we rescued about 32 workers from the coast). But anyway, the ship would ride to the top on one wave only to dive down into the next one, submarining. Standing inside the bow, the ship would violently shudder as it struck the waves. As the ship would rise, you would feel like you weighed twice as much, but as it fell into the trough, you would be almost weightless, and you could jump as high as you dared. And that was fun for an 18 yr old kid.

    • @oneshotme
      @oneshotme 2 года назад +4

      Sounds like fun times! I grew up on the water and have seen just about every counrty on this side of the pond and would have to have been able to see the other side

    • @jasonwcoleman250
      @jasonwcoleman250 2 года назад +10

      The fantail moves around quite a bit as well. I jumped from the 1 deck fantail to the 01 level flight deck on accident once. This was on the 210' CG cutter Venturous where I got lucky the boat didn't rock and disappear out from under me.

    • @nausetbaptistchurch2971
      @nausetbaptistchurch2971 2 года назад +6

      @Mark Roster dd933 same time frame, same place

    • @NotaVampyre111
      @NotaVampyre111 2 года назад +8

      @Mark Roster I was on Uss Coral Seal (CV-43) on my first deployment. We went through a massive typhoon in the Sea of Japan in 77 I think. We lost a few planes and a few lunches but no one was hurt.
      In 86, I was on FF-1057, USS Rathburn and went through a typhoon. I sure missed being on a carrier that day.

    • @00kt86
      @00kt86 2 года назад +6

      @Mark Roster I remember the USS Waddell. Thank you for the reply, nice to hear from you and hope you're doing well.
      I was a sonarman, and my sleeping compartment was forward, so I quickly learned how to sleep with my arm wrapped
      around the pole the bunk was attached too so I wouldn't be thrown out of bed in the middle of the night 😀.

  • @dacox1433
    @dacox1433 2 года назад +524

    As a maritime academy cadet I was on a 900ft container ship that transited through a typhoon on our way to Japan. Watching waves crest over my head from the main deck stern was a sight but the real show was internal. Inside pipe tunnels that ran most the length of ship I watched from aft the bow deflect up and down by at least 10 ft each way.

    • @huwzebediahthomas9193
      @huwzebediahthomas9193 2 года назад +59

      Going across the Irish sea in a ferry once, at it's worst allowable, the noise, boom pause, boom and so on. The lavatories were a mess, water being thrown out of the bowls, with the vomit. Friend and I were ok, perfect. We sat on the centerline in the bar boozing.

    • @josephpacchetti5997
      @josephpacchetti5997 2 года назад +9

      WOW.

    • @timhoran3887
      @timhoran3887 2 года назад +11

      @@huwzebediahthomas9193 lol Ben there don that lol....

    • @pjford1118
      @pjford1118 2 года назад +20

      I was on a cruise ship that hit a tropical depression that was strengthening, My wife got violently sea sick so we went down to the sick bay. That hallway ran most of the way down the ship, watching the ship flex was amazing.

    • @dondelchulia3189
      @dondelchulia3189 2 года назад +33

      Better them flexing like they’re designed to than to snap

  • @fatotis6273
    @fatotis6273 2 года назад +187

    My grandfather was aboard this ship when this happened. He was one the radio operators on board. He lost a close friend, and gave the skipper great praise. My grandfather died in 1996.

    • @AsrielDreemurYT653
      @AsrielDreemurYT653 2 года назад +5

      I'm so sorry for your loss

    • @Dr_Strangelove702
      @Dr_Strangelove702 2 года назад +5

      RIP to a hero.

    • @fatotis6273
      @fatotis6273 2 года назад +5

      @@Dr_Strangelove702 Thank you, he was great influence on me, a good man and sailor.

    • @fatotis6273
      @fatotis6273 2 года назад +2

      @@AsrielDreemurYT653 Thank you

    • @martenkrueger8647
      @martenkrueger8647 2 года назад +5

      What was your GrandFathers Name?
      He deserves too be Remembered on every MEMORIAL DAY..By all of us..
      my poppy is still here he is 99..he served in the South Pacific also!

  • @johnvan6082
    @johnvan6082 2 года назад +272

    You left out one more item. When the search plane sent out to locate the floating bow section spotted it, the pilot radioed back to base HAVE LOCATED SUBURB OF PITTSBURGH then gave it's location !

    • @rpbajb
      @rpbajb 2 года назад +16

      Didn't they name it the McKeesport?

    • @Mikey300
      @Mikey300 2 года назад +17

      @@rpbajb "USS McKeesport", indeed!

    • @GamerPotatoGuy
      @GamerPotatoGuy 2 года назад

      @@rpbajb nah they named it diîasmūïñįqœr

    • @jorgevillavicencio427
      @jorgevillavicencio427 2 года назад +4

      @@Mikey300 how very interesting! There's so much to learn still about this fascinating albeit bloody time in history.
      On another note, if you haven't already seen it, check out Bob Ballard's Finding Bismarck, I think that's the title. Anyway, it's a great documentary about the ship.

    • @miafillene4396
      @miafillene4396 2 года назад +10

      Okay. I want to buy those pilots a drink for that one. Horrible funny pun. I am sure they are gone now, but, damn if that ain't funny as hell.

  • @rpbajb
    @rpbajb 2 года назад +174

    I live in Pittsburgh. There is a model of the USS Pittsburgh in Soldiers and Sailors Hall. It's amazing, probably 10 feet long and incredibly detailed. I've spent quite a bit of time studying and photographing it. You can learn a lot more about ship design from a model than you can from photographs.

    • @JohnDoe-yq9ml
      @JohnDoe-yq9ml 2 года назад +3

      You got any photos or videos posted anywhere I can take a look at?

    • @rpbajb
      @rpbajb 2 года назад

      @@JohnDoe-yq9ml Sorry, no.

    • @DANDYUFC
      @DANDYUFC 2 года назад

      awesosme man! are these avaibble anuywhere?

    • @fastfreddy3103
      @fastfreddy3103 2 года назад

      Yes, I've seen that model.

    • @JohnDoe-yq9ml
      @JohnDoe-yq9ml 2 года назад +2

      @@rpbajb dang. I would have loved to see them

  • @BMF6889
    @BMF6889 2 года назад +34

    I was a Marine company commander in the Pacific aboard the USS Tuscaloosa LST (Landing Ship Transport or better known as Slow Static Target). The LST was an amphibious landing ship designed to go right up to a beach, lower the bow ramp and offload Marines and equipment directly onto the beach.
    The LST was the smallest of the amphibious ships and it had a very shallow draft so it could get right up next to the beach.
    I happened to be the senior officer for Marines onboard the Tuscaloosa when we were caught in a Typhoon. It was very violent. We were doing 45-60 degree "snap rolls" from port to starboard and anything not tied down was being tossed around the compartment in a lethal way.
    When morning finally came, the 60 ton bow ramp of the bow of the ship was missing. The storm/seas had ripped it off. The Tuscaloosa was much smaller than the USS Pittsburgh, so perhaps the damage could have been worse. All I know is that night on the Tuscaloosa was very hairy wondering if it would capsize. Every Marine was literally strapped into their bunks by a safety belt to keep from being thrown out during the violent shifts in the ship from port to starboard.
    The Navy crew seemed concerned but not in a panic. I will never forget that night just as I will never forget several terrifying events while I was a Marine platoon commander in Vietnam 1968-69.

    • @treadhead
      @treadhead 2 года назад

      FLEET MARINE FORCE ( FMF )
      DEVIL DOG LEATHERNECKS , THE NAVY'S INFANTRY , TO ALL WHO RAISED OUR RIGHT HAND & SWORE TO " SUPPORT & DEFEND " , PAST, PRESENT & FUTURE , THANK YOU ALL .
      " FREEDOM ISN'T FREE "

    • @joed1901
      @joed1901 2 года назад +3

      Thank you for sharing and for your service.

    • @gargar8196
      @gargar8196 2 года назад +2

      Wow what a life

    • @lgd1974
      @lgd1974 2 года назад +1

      God bless you sir!

    • @jonderek4647
      @jonderek4647 2 года назад

      Loved your story but the LST acronym was affectionally called Large Stationary Target, not Slow Static Target.

  • @judithleckrone2623
    @judithleckrone2623 2 года назад +43

    My Dad was on the USS Pittsburgh when all of this happened. I have several pictures of the ship, one when it was commissioned, one while the USS Pittsburgh was backing in to tow the USS Franklin, while the Franklin was on fire, one of it docked beside a ship like it, in Guam, after the bow was torn off, and one of it after the repairs were made.

  • @Lee-70ish
    @Lee-70ish 2 года назад +31

    I can well relate to this .
    My Dad was Royal Navy and was in the far East having his landing craft transported on a large freighter to Malaya.
    During a storm an ocean wave void opened in front of the ship and the bows dived into it .
    The sea rush in pushing the ships down until both screws where 20 feet out of the sea spinning in mid.
    air
    Once the sea reached the base of wheel house the whole ship just hung bow down for what he said was best part of 30 seconds .
    Before slowly coming on to an even keel.
    The skipper had been in the navy for 40 years and said he had never seen anything like it.
    On deck that found a whole palm tree, and they were over a thousand mile from land.

  • @captainscarlett1
    @captainscarlett1 2 года назад +174

    Imagine how terrifying it would be in a wooden sail ship. They could, and did, simply disappear into an unfortunate wave.

    • @DANDYUFC
      @DANDYUFC 2 года назад +5

      yea... ciao bella

    • @fredericcolombier5380
      @fredericcolombier5380 2 года назад +4

      @@DANDYUFC Closer to you my god without the violins and the orchestra 😄

    • @Crunkboy415
      @Crunkboy415 2 года назад +14

      A lot of wooden ships did in fact foundered under giant waves. In 1281 the entire Mongol fleet of 4000 ships were wiped out by a typhoon and saved Japan from invasion. they called this storm a "Divine Wind" or Kamikaze.

    • @brendanlang3596
      @brendanlang3596 2 года назад +2

      @@Crunkboy415 Japan took tips 📝

    • @sls12III
      @sls12III 2 года назад +1

      @@brendanlang3596 made their own divine winds using planes.

  • @isilder
    @isilder 2 года назад +57

    The extreme case is USS New Orleans, which returned to base after the Battle of Tassafaronga missing everything forward of its SECOND turrets and I mean everything forward of the acrosswise line at the visible part of the turret ( it was clearly inoperable due to missing or exposed below deck spaces .. ) Its like the entire ship's forward section was cut neatly through as close as possible to the external barbette of turret two... which means an entire turret is missing. So its like twice as much.. it lost not just the bow area bulkheads, it lost the first turrent bulkheads. USS Minneapolis also got damaged in the same battle, and returned to base missing its bow (with Turret 1 externally in place but disabled., turret 2 might have been functional. ) USS Pensacola was also survived after a long battle to control fires, whilst keeping it afloat. (If they put out the fires sooner, they would sink it... if they didn't put out the fires quickly, it could explode its ammunition stores.)

    • @rickieoakes5267
      @rickieoakes5267 2 года назад +4

      My dad served on the USS Vincennes which was a New Orleans class heavy Cruiser he said he watched a typhoon strip the flight deck back on an aircraft carrier so it looked like somebody had rolled open a sardine can but he could not remember which carrier it was

    • @rickieoakes5267
      @rickieoakes5267 2 года назад

      He told quite a story of the typhoon they had went through

  • @vanguardactual1
    @vanguardactual1 2 года назад +23

    I had an uncle who was stationed on the USS Pittsburgh when it lost its bow in that Cyclone. He talked about it some, I think he was an electrician mate or something like that, but I was young & didn't have the interest in Military History like I do today. My cousins have all the information & stories recorded thankfully! Hugart Misskelley was his name & he passed away in 2015 I believe.

  • @markkover8040
    @markkover8040 2 года назад +48

    My father's ship, U.S.S. Pakana ATF-108, assisted the Munsee in recovering and towing the bow back to port. It was a very unstable and awkward object to tow. It kept sheering off in odd directions. It kept the crews of both tugs on their toes.

  • @AcmeRacing
    @AcmeRacing 2 года назад +17

    My grandfather was on board the Pittsburgh, and his bunk was in the bow section that broke off. He was on duty at the time, but he lost all his stuff. He died in 1946 just before he would have gotten discharged. For years we had a painting of the damaged ship hanging in the hall. One of my cousins has it now.

  • @cascadesouthernmodeltrains7547
    @cascadesouthernmodeltrains7547 2 года назад +18

    100 foot waves are fun. I was on the USS Stennis when we sailed through a cat 1 typhoon and we had waves breaking over our bow. The waterline is about 80 feet or so below the flight deck of a Nimitz Class carrier just for reference.

  • @chrisbennett812
    @chrisbennett812 2 года назад +29

    My father served on a Fletcher-class destroyer in this theater of the war. Several ships were lost during that infamous typhoon. Dad said the crew of his ship owed a debt of gratitude to its captain for literally saving their lives with his masterful seamanship during that storm. I also spoke with another person who had served on a light carrier. He (too) attested to the severity of that typhoon. I can’t even imagine the hardships they endured.

    • @johnmehaffey9953
      @johnmehaffey9953 2 года назад +5

      I read the report of this typhoon and to say it’s interesting is a massive understatement, if it’s the same typhoon that I read, admiral bull Halsey was reprimanded for putting the fleet in danger as so many ships were lost as well as a lot o f sailors lives , war is severe but nature can be more severe, glad you’re dad made it safely through, my uncle bob was lost in the European theatre his ship was hit during the evacuation of Crete, two different navy’s but both fighting against tyranny

    • @Sturminfantrist
      @Sturminfantrist 2 года назад +1

      a typhoon? it was the "divine wind" Kamikaze !

    • @JFK6781
      @JFK6781 2 года назад +2

      I have been through 2 hurricanes on the USS John F Kennedy CV-67. I saw waves break over the flight deck 75 ft tall

    • @ColoradoStreaming
      @ColoradoStreaming Год назад +1

      @@Sturminfantrist There was actually another "Kamikaze" typhoon that happened after the surrender that would have tanked the US Invasion.

  • @OldHorse1000
    @OldHorse1000 2 года назад +8

    When I was a young lad, I sailed from Hawaii to Canada. We were 30 days at sea on a 37' wooden Ketch with 3 other crew. I can tell you what 60' seas look like from that vantage, weather helm at 12 knots with only a storm jib. The boat had come up from the Samoa's on a starboard tack, we took that sea on a port tack. Wooden boat was dried out on the starboard side and leaked like an SOB.
    We had no electronics, was Loran back then. We navigated with only a compass, sextant and log. Hit the Juan De Fuca Straits dead on.

  • @HollywoodGraham
    @HollywoodGraham 2 года назад +56

    I was on Helena and Saint Paul both Baltimore class Cruisers and been in some rough seas but nothing like that. Good strong ships but the ocean can be even stronger at times.

    • @ronjones1077
      @ronjones1077 2 года назад +4

      Cool name. I’ve got a Graham Hollywood auto and a 36 Cord. Also my Dad was on a destroyer escort in Okinawa during that storm.

    • @HollywoodGraham
      @HollywoodGraham 2 года назад +1

      @@ronjones1077 I have a G.H. that's where the name comes from. I envy you about the Cord.

    • @haskellvanmarter8411
      @haskellvanmarter8411 2 года назад

      I was on the St. Paul from 66 to July 68 . B Div. I worked in # 3 fire room. I recall a first class worked fwd., in one of fire rooms from the Helena I don’t remember his name. But the name Graham sure sounds familure . We’re you in B- Div?

    • @HollywoodGraham
      @HollywoodGraham 2 года назад

      @@haskellvanmarter8411 X-Div. I was a a Lithographer, '63-4.

  • @MrRedrooster53
    @MrRedrooster53 2 года назад +11

    My great grandfather was a welder in Quincy, Massachusetts and worked on the USS Pittsburgh. He ended up being drafted into the Navy to serve as a boatswain mate on the very ship he helped build. For his efforts during the typhoon incident to help save the ship he received the Bonze Star.

  • @charlesstewart9246
    @charlesstewart9246 2 года назад +15

    Another informative film,that showed the things the brave people at sea went through and still came through with a smile and a determination to overcome all "inconveniences ". Thankyou once again 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 👍

    • @fellspoint9364
      @fellspoint9364 2 года назад +1

      I don’t know if the current generation could handle it without posing for pictures but I could be wrong. I saw some good young sailors at Naval Station Norfolk a couple of years ago when I was working on a tugboat. Those men and women were on their game. All business.

  • @kurkruk70
    @kurkruk70 2 года назад +33

    I can just imagine the pucker factor for the sailors of the Pittsburgh in that typhoon! It had to be bad enough to deal with the waves on a ship with all her parts, but then when she lost her bow, I bet there were a lot of men saying some good prayers to save her! Great video!

    • @rickieoakes5267
      @rickieoakes5267 2 года назад +1

      My father was on watch during that typhoon and said you could look out at the Horizon and watch the tin cans ak8 destroyers just drop out of sight and then you'd go into a trough and all you'd see is a wall of water around you and when you popped back up on top there the Destroyers would be again until they went down in another trough

    • @warnerweber5834
      @warnerweber5834 2 года назад

      In its shakedown cruise, the Pittsburg had done the largest roll ever recorded in rough water. They were amazed the ship didn’t capsize.

  • @Jakal-pw8yq
    @Jakal-pw8yq 2 года назад +14

    I served aboard the USS Hancock aircraft carrier during the Vietnam war. There were several times when we got caught up in the tail-end of a typhoon and would take green water over the bow!
    The vibrations that ran through the ship were amazing and actually very frightening but our Skipper, Captain Dickey knew that ship like the back of his hand and always got us through those storms safely.
    We never lost a man overboard or had any heavy damage that we had to put into port to repair. I have to say seeing that water come over the bow will get you to change your shorts real quick!

  • @wanderingweh405
    @wanderingweh405 Год назад +1

    My Grandpa was on this ship. I can't believe I can see this today. Thank you!!

  • @skyden24195
    @skyden24195 2 года назад +37

    How/why USS Pittsburgh got the nickname "Longest Ship in the World" is pretty amazing and (respectfully/perspectivally) hilarious. Good video. Great story.

    • @isilder
      @isilder 2 года назад +2

      Numerous warships, light cruiser or larger, returned to base missing their bows. USS New Orleans is perhaps the extreme. Lost Bow AND the first turret, but returned to a friendly port for repairs. Destroyers actually used ramming as a tactic so perhaps returning to base missing the weapon just means you used it in a fight.

    • @skyden24195
      @skyden24195 2 года назад

      @@isilder it does make sense that warships are designed to be able to continue, to a relative degree, operating even with significant damage. I mean, if ocean liner companies are trying to make their ships as "unsinkable" as possible (especially after such maritime disasters as "Titanic,") why wouldn't military naval doctrine strive for any less, and of course more.

    • @somedumbozzie1539
      @somedumbozzie1539 2 года назад +3

      Apollo 11 it the tallest rocket in the world there are parts of on the bottom of the Atlantic and on the Moon.

    • @skyden24195
      @skyden24195 2 года назад

      @@somedumbozzie1539 😆👏👏👏 nice!

    • @insertnamehere313
      @insertnamehere313 2 года назад

      In it's class....pay attention boy's.

  • @kirkkirkland7244
    @kirkkirkland7244 2 года назад +8

    I went through 2 typhoons in the 80's on my ship and it was only a fast frigate! It through us around like we were nothing!
    I'm sure that it's the closest I've ever come to dying when it took a 60 degree roll.
    We thought that it wasn't coming back up and people were flying all over the bridge! I was helmsman and I put the rudder hard over to starboard and she slowly came back up!
    Scared the crap out of everyone and the captain had us going full flank speed after that into the waves.
    It's something to watch the bow go under the waves and the screw throwing water high in the air because the stern has come out of the ocean!!!
    Great times I wouldn't trade for anything!!!!

  • @timothycapps574
    @timothycapps574 2 года назад +3

    My grandpa was on the Pittsburgh. he died in June 2020. He never really talked about it much when I was younger, but in the last 5 years or so of his life he told me several stories. He said during the storm he was at his battle station in the gun powder room below one of the turrets. He said they were locked in so if something exploded it wouldn't take out the rest of the ship so he spent the whole storm praying while surrounded by gunpowder.

  • @LordMarcus
    @LordMarcus 2 года назад +97

    Man, ships with a stupid amount of big guns look so damn cool. I know missile tech has changed naval warfare-or most warfare, what with big artillery shells being dumb as a pile of oddly-ballistic bricks when compared with a cruise missile, which can always know where it is by knowing where it isn't-but they still look cool.

    • @athomicritics
      @athomicritics 2 года назад +12

      yeah , i really wish we still used battleships they look so cool , but hey advance in tech as you said , cant do much about it

    • @josephpacchetti5997
      @josephpacchetti5997 2 года назад +4

      Agree.

    • @HammerJammer81
      @HammerJammer81 2 года назад +7

      I miss the stupid amount of guns as well. Makes your ship going from a Warship to straight badass.

    • @shabmaster7128
      @shabmaster7128 2 года назад +2

      There's still a place for big ass guns, but the RPMs need to be ramped up. Harder to intercept 100 shells than 2 missiles. On the other end of the scale you've got railguns emerging in China supposedly.

    • @signolias100
      @signolias100 2 года назад +4

      @@shabmaster7128 America is working on a rapid firing rail gun. i only know of that rail gun

  • @Kysushanz
    @Kysushanz 2 года назад +7

    In the early 1980's I was talking with a guy who was a sailor on one of the NZ ships [Loch or Bathurst class, can't recall now] but he was saying that they hit a huge wave East of NZ and the whole ship shuddered. deck plates were warped and when they got back to port, the ship was 300mm shorter! The power of the sea!

  • @tedblair8650
    @tedblair8650 2 года назад

    My Uncle was the radio operator at this time,on the Pittsburg..this was awesome,ty.he has told that story to me growing up....

  • @andywhite40
    @andywhite40 2 года назад +60

    Interesting video many thanks! I suspect that poor welding was a result of haste to get the ship into action but 100' waves are going to test any vessel regardless of whether it's been thrown together or not. No loss of life is mentioned which is something of a miracle...

    • @timhoran3887
      @timhoran3887 2 года назад +4

      Agree. I mean how many tons of water is in a 100 ft. Wave !!

    • @CJrun
      @CJrun 2 года назад +9

      Yes. And, to Tim, how long is the wave? Also how wide from trough to peak. Sometimes we motored up and down waves in the Bering that were well over 50 feet, the ship bent, but everything was okay. It really depends on the Set. The distance between the wave peaks. If that's a mile set, it's all good. If you have waves over 50 feet and the set is only a 100 feet, you're in trouble.

    • @artbrann
      @artbrann 2 года назад +3

      The Baltimore class had a history of playing in typhoons, and coming out damaged but saved
      Cobra(the Typhoon a year before) heavily damaged USS Baltimore, damaged USS Iowa, and sank 3 destroyers
      USS Baltimore was in both Typhoons Cobra and Viper(real name Connie) and was part of the group that stayed with USS Pittsburg

    • @DANDYUFC
      @DANDYUFC 2 года назад

      sounds like it...

  • @piethermanus8777
    @piethermanus8777 2 года назад +14

    Excellent narration, clear and not too fast..

    • @scottschroeder4920
      @scottschroeder4920 2 года назад +3

      I dig him a lot too. He narrates a bunch of channels and he actually seems to be slowing it down a little bit on this one. But yeah, he’s awesome 👍

  • @fakenews7266
    @fakenews7266 2 года назад +59

    This is a badass story , the USS Pittsburgh's bow was sheared off and then recovered to become a whole ship again , wow , they don't build ships like they used to 😮

    • @spartacus3608
      @spartacus3608 2 года назад +1

      Don't make people like they used to either....now they build and disassemble people based on FEELINGS from brain washing media and entertainment! When men were men and women were women...now we live in the TWILIGHT ZONE

    • @fakenews7266
      @fakenews7266 2 года назад +3

      @@spartacus3608 Amen to that

    • @isilder
      @isilder 2 года назад +8

      USS New Orleans is perhaps the extreme. Lost Bow AND the entire first turret section, as in , it was sheared off just in front of the second turret (the visible turrent), but returned to a friendly port for repairs.

    • @gibson9516
      @gibson9516 2 года назад +1

      They don’t build men like they use to.

    • @nukeruzzia3832
      @nukeruzzia3832 2 года назад +11

      No, they make them much better now, without defective plate welds that lead to the front falling off in a storm lmao
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pittsburgh_(CA-72)#Damaged_by_a_typhoon

  • @rayperry7315
    @rayperry7315 2 года назад +17

    Myself along with about 4,000 of my shipmates rode out hurricane Hugo while sailing through the Bermuda Triangle in 1989 on the final deployment of the aircraft carrier USS CORAL SEA. True Story folks.

    • @kikupub71
      @kikupub71 2 года назад +3

      Not a sea story ! Welcome home!

  • @BOOMER-rs5qn
    @BOOMER-rs5qn 2 года назад +10

    I remember trying to outrun a typhoon in the sea of Japan on the USS Blueridge in the early 80s. We made it to Sasebo but it was a scary ride with some huge waves!

    • @retiredyeti5555
      @retiredyeti5555 2 года назад +2

      While on the USS Ashtabula AO-51, we ran into a typhoon in the sea of Japan after leaving Tokyo Bay - in 63 or 64. Would have to look in ships cruise book - aging does that to you. Had green water coming up over the bridge - I was in CIC behind the bridge. Ship was commissioned the same month and year that I was born - Aug 1943. She creaked and groaned with every wave that hit the bow, and rolled several times to port and starboard. Each time we held our breath to see if she would right herself. Good thing we had just filled all our bunkers with oil and Avgas! Scary is definitely a descriptive word for an experience like that!

  • @WTH1812
    @WTH1812 2 года назад +20

    Fun thing on the USN AFS was the "small stores" in hold 1 where the nuts, bolts, and metal washers were stored. As the ship crested a big wave and the bow fell into the trough, all the little metal parts would float to the top of their bins, levitate, then crash with a clatter as the bow bottomed out. Pause, Schzech, pause, Schzech, pause, Schzech, pause... for hours.

    • @HeadinTheClouts
      @HeadinTheClouts 2 года назад +4

      Yes, I had that same experience sleeping in a compartment in the bow of a destroyer

    • @josefschmeau4682
      @josefschmeau4682 2 года назад

      😬😬😬

    • @JHNielson4851
      @JHNielson4851 2 года назад

      Did all the parts stay in their bins?

    • @georgew1751
      @georgew1751 2 года назад +4

      I discovered the same happens to a sailor. On a destroyer in the S Pacific we were going through rough seas when I started to run up a ladder connecting decks. I took one step up and the ship dropped out from under me. I was amazed to find myself standing on the upper deck after just one step.

    • @WTH1812
      @WTH1812 2 года назад +1

      @@JHNielson4851 ... Pretty much, but the fluorescent light tubes in hold 3 didn't take the bouncing so well. Pick the box up and it went "Schzech szchech Schzech" too.

  • @garymcaleer6112
    @garymcaleer6112 2 года назад +4

    Great post, D.S. Your research is always commendable.

  • @112chapters3
    @112chapters3 2 года назад +1

    Glad I’ve been here since early days, the growth of channels is amazing. Timmy jimmy or whoever u r.
    U deserve it.
    I’ll see you at the top.

  • @robr2389
    @robr2389 2 года назад +2

    Cool video. Thank You. I didn't know all that. I have been in some VERY violent weather at sea. That show, "Deadliest Catch" focuses on the Bering Sea. I have been there, also. But NOTHING I ever went through has beaten the North Atlantic storms. Winter of 1981, it was SO bad topside, we were rolling 10° to each side at a depth of 400'. It was BAD rough up top.

  • @jamesfloyd1864
    @jamesfloyd1864 2 года назад +1

    I sailed out of Sattahip, Thailand in the spring of 1974 headed for Subic Bay on the Council Grove, an extended T-2 oil tanker (800 ft.) built during WWII. We were shuttling av-gas for the Navy during the Vietnam War. On the second day out of Sattahip we ran into the side of a typhoon off the coast of Cambodia. That poor old T-2 was moaning and groaning, and the old-timers on board were really worried, but she weathered it with a lot of damage. During the storm we couldn't change the watch because of waves coming over the decks. The kitchen was shut down for two days, and the only way you could stay on your rack was to lie on your belly spreadeagle with your arms wrapped around the bed. When the ship rolled, you could run up a bulkhead almost to the overhead and back down again before it rolled the other way. It flattened the handrails and ripped the lifeboats loose. It tore the awning off the fantail. It was my first trip to sea, and what an introduction. I can close my eyes and still see those fifty foot waves coming one after another relentlessly.

  • @artnickel1664
    @artnickel1664 2 года назад +6

    Been through a typhoon on USS Oriskany, took green water over the bow on flight deck. Had over 30 feet of port catwalk rolled up by water.

  • @josephpacchetti5997
    @josephpacchetti5997 2 года назад +5

    That was one Hell of a Ride, Amazing Ship And Crew, Thanks Dark Seas, I'm subscribed to all of the Dark Channels and Watch them everyday, They are among the best on YT. 👍 🚢 🇺🇸

  • @blurglide
    @blurglide 2 года назад +9

    He talks about the storm and wave at 9:10

  • @bobbrown5529
    @bobbrown5529 2 года назад +1

    that was an awesome episode . Truly glad you are bringing these events that happened a life time ago . It shows just how hard life was , & it was not a holiday in the Bahama's

  • @mauricedavis2160
    @mauricedavis2160 2 года назад +1

    I was born in Pittsburgh, how could I not view this episode, thank you!!!🙏👍👻

  • @mikemullay5622
    @mikemullay5622 2 года назад +6

    A story I heard from my mother many times over the years is when the new bow was fitted to the USS Pittsburgh in the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard in Bremerton, Washington the calculations were only 1/4 inch off in an era using only slide rules and mathematics.

  • @georgew1751
    @georgew1751 2 года назад +4

    Things have changed so much since I was in. When we went to battle stations my protective gear was a Mae West and a helmet liner. We didn't even get the steel helmet-just the liner. No ear ear or eye protections just load the big guns and fire until we tell you to stop. That was early 60's on a Tin Can.

  • @timmotel5804
    @timmotel5804 2 года назад +1

    Excellent. Thank You for this piece of history.

  • @davidponseigo8811
    @davidponseigo8811 2 года назад +11

    My uncle commanded the fleet at Iwo Jima from the USS Arkansas battleship. Admiral George McFadden O'Rear. He begged the higher ups to more firepower but never got it.

    • @matta5498
      @matta5498 2 года назад

      You know he got comments when he was a rear admiral. Like Rear Admiral Lower Half O7'Rear.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 2 года назад

      More firepower wouldn't have mattered. The Japanese had to be dislodged with marines and the higher ups knew it. That volcanic sand just soaked hits up. What they finally did was roll drums of fuel into the caves and set them on fire.

  • @richspillman4191
    @richspillman4191 2 года назад

    One of the best episodes done, very good.

  • @SolarHarvestSolutions
    @SolarHarvestSolutions 2 года назад +2

    USS Kansas City AOR-3 year 77-81 Indian Ocean and Pacific Ocean got rough , lost load weekly when listing in waves…fun times then , too young then to know the real dangers until emergency dry dock and cargo deck revealed cracks … thanks to all who served 🇺🇸

  • @112chapters3
    @112chapters3 2 года назад

    100% Timmy jimmy or whoever… the growth of your channels and network… glad I’ve been here for the ride under many names.
    You crushing it bro

  • @naslan
    @naslan 2 года назад +1

    Just love your stuff. Given how difficult and contradictory naval specs can be, this is spot on research.

  • @whatsreal7506
    @whatsreal7506 2 года назад +1

    This is one of your best! Excellent and well done! Keep 'em coming! 👍👌

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear 2 года назад

    Thanks

  • @kcstafford2784
    @kcstafford2784 2 года назад +1

    by no I watch some of the others I watch all of yours thanks from a old Navy guy❤

  • @Charles-bo8iy
    @Charles-bo8iy Год назад +1

    I spent two years deployed to the Western Pacific aboard the USS Midway. During that time, we went through three typhoons, the worst being north of the Japanese Islands. The sea changed color, and the waves became mountainous. It was something to behold.

  • @TheCarlWeezer01
    @TheCarlWeezer01 Год назад +1

    My grandpa served on the Pittsburgh when it was recommissioned in 1951. Only thing I remember him telling me about it was that at one time they got trailed by a sub in prob ‘51 ‘52 and we’re in their battle stations for 3 days before it left.

  • @colbeausabre8842
    @colbeausabre8842 2 года назад +3

    In the Great War, the destroyer HMS Nubian (Tribal Class) had her bow blown off by a torpedo, but made it back to Britain. In port, was a sister, HMS Zulu, which had lost her stern to a fish. "Are you thinking what I'm thinking?" Yes, the RN grafted the forward part of Zulu onto the after part of Nubian and christened the Frankenship, HMS Zubian. It paid off - she sank a U-boat before the end of the war.

  • @wmden1
    @wmden1 28 дней назад

    Thanks, Dark Seas. These are always educational and educational. Your narrator is excellent. I feel certain he is a real person, not an AI generated voice. He pronounces everything correctly, as far as I know, and he even sounded like he had a cold when this narration was recorded.

  • @dodoubleg2356
    @dodoubleg2356 2 года назад +4

    Born, raised, & still livin' in Pittsburgh, it's a proud feeling to hear about a warship that embodied what it meant to call the STEEL CITY your home. 💪🖤💛😉✌️

    • @user-up1us9jf1o
      @user-up1us9jf1o 2 года назад

      Shaht aht to the USS Yinzer 🤣

    • @K37-h1z
      @K37-h1z 2 года назад +1

      I heard this ships fuel can be substituted with yueniling? Any truth to that?

    • @tommygilliam8890
      @tommygilliam8890 2 года назад

      I live in Tennessee, drive a truck, over the last 24 yrs I have met some great folks from Pittsburg. One of my favorite places to go.

  • @msamov
    @msamov 2 года назад

    Again, you rock. Great bit of naval history.

  • @terminalpsychosis8022
    @terminalpsychosis8022 2 года назад +1

    What an awesome story. Very apt nickname for this brutal survivor of a seagoing vessel.
    I enjoy all the vids on this channel, but this one really hit me. Good on all those brave men. Cannot imagine going through that.

  • @geoben1810
    @geoben1810 2 года назад +10

    This is the reason for the order to batten down the hatches. You have a significantly better chance of saving the ship and crew should the ship be damaged by the enemy, an accident, or nature. And as was drilled into us beginning in boot camp, if you can save the ship, you save yourself and your shipmates. Oh, and never abandon ship until the order is given. If you abandon ship and Damage Control saves her you could be left in the water if no one saw you go in and just sails on.
    USN PO3 '73>'77 🇺🇸

  • @earnestbrown6524
    @earnestbrown6524 2 года назад +38

    There is another WW2 ship that lost their bow. Had a new one put on then decades later the bow was found by divers. The divers had a hard time finding out what ship it was from because they were looking at ships that sank in the area.
    I think they ID the class then found a small article about the replaced bow.

    • @RyGuyTheStrong
      @RyGuyTheStrong 2 года назад +6

      Yeah, the Cruiser Honolulu had her bow blown off by a either a mine or a torpedo. Similar situation. Sailed back into port minus the bow.

    • @isilder
      @isilder 2 года назад +5

      Numerous warships returned to base missing their bows. USS New Orleans is perhaps the extreme. Lost Bow AND the first turret, but returned to a friendly port for repairs.

    • @chrislaub9452
      @chrislaub9452 2 года назад +1

      Wow I never would of thought they could keep floating after that. But all the ways they can block stuff off or flood or drain that makes sense

    • @ToolofSociety
      @ToolofSociety 2 года назад +8

      @@chrislaub9452 Superior damage control and training.

    • @Ivellios23
      @Ivellios23 2 года назад +5

      Iirc Alaska lost both bow and Stern. She and HMS Javelin are testaments to US and UK damage control. Both were saved, towed in for repairs, and each with new bow and Stern went back out for more.

  • @jeromebarnett7565
    @jeromebarnett7565 2 года назад

    I truly enjoy your videos. I have been watching them for years. Thanks for all your hard work.

  • @jessdigs
    @jessdigs 2 года назад +15

    The ship had (9) 8” 55 caliber guns, meaning the barrels were 55 bore diameters long or 440”. An 8 inch (one) caliber gun would only be 8” long

    • @NashmanNash
      @NashmanNash 2 года назад +2

      Don´t bother..Creator does not read comments and..well..often enough he shows that he can´t even read a wikipedia article properly,let alone a book

    • @spikespa5208
      @spikespa5208 2 года назад +1

      @@NashmanNash Not uncommon these days.

    • @kingssuck06
      @kingssuck06 2 года назад

      Dude thats what they were called. Everyone refers to battleship guns as 16 inch guns, are those 16” long too? Mr technical over here

    • @jessdigs
      @jessdigs 2 года назад +2

      @@kingssuck06 no they were not called 8 inch caliber guns. For instance the Iowa class battleships had 16 inch 50 caliber guns. The North Carolina class had 16 inch 45 caliber guns. The New York class had 14 inch 45 caliber guns. The caliber is how many bore diameter in lengths they are.

  • @johnvan6082
    @johnvan6082 2 года назад +3

    Another item. After her decommissioning, the U.S. government offered to give the PITTSBURGH to the city of PGH.to use as a museum ship. This led to much excitement and fundraising to tow her up the Mississippi untill someone pointing out that there are a lot of bridges between New Orleans and Pittsburgh !!!

    • @Mikey300
      @Mikey300 2 года назад +4

      If Pittsburgh could have been brought upriver to the Point (where the submarine Requin now rests), we would have needed to keep the training and elevation mechanisms for her main turrets in working order. Then we could point the turrets at Cincinnati, Cleveland, or Baltimore whenever the Steelers played the Bengals, Browns, or Ravens.

    • @rpbajb
      @rpbajb 2 года назад +2

      There was a steamboat that used to visit Pittsburgh when I was a kid. She had stacks that hinged down flat to get under the bridges.

  • @jharris0341
    @jharris0341 2 года назад +1

    My grandfather, Stanley "Buck" Harris, was a gunner's mate on the USS Pittsburgh during WWII. This incident was one of the few wartime experiences he related to his sons before he died.

  • @longtabsigo
    @longtabsigo 2 года назад +4

    09:00. Ships do not provide Close Air Support. The provide naval gunfire support to ground forces and Anti Aircraft Fire Support.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 2 года назад

      The Pittsburgh could fly!

  • @virt1one
    @virt1one 2 года назад +8

    pretty impressive that the bow stayed afloat and available to be recovered. And looking at the front of the ship, there's a lot there up front. I can't understand how no one was in that part of the ship when it broke away? Or there were, but they were recovered alive, along with the bow?

  • @ultimatebucco3181
    @ultimatebucco3181 2 года назад +1

    An anchor from the Pittsburgh was located outside the old Allegheny Center Mall on Pittsburgh's North Side. Checked it out a lot when I was a kid. Not sure if still there. Really neat video!!!!

  • @tommycollier7290
    @tommycollier7290 2 года назад +3

    Nice video!

  • @Mr.XJ.96
    @Mr.XJ.96 2 года назад +1

    My Grand Farther was on the Baltimore Class Destroyer U.S.S Quincy Ca-71 or the Quincy II. as Machinists Mate 43-45. I remeber the story of him telling me about going through that Typhoon many times. He talked about the Pittsburgh getting her bow ripped off and how scary it was for him on his Ship going through that storm.

  • @Cha-y412
    @Cha-y412 Год назад

    My Uncle was a 17 year old gunners mate on the USS Astoria CL90 (Cleveland Class Cruiser light ) The Astoria was in that typoon and lost her Float planes and sustained other minor damage. My Uncle lost a front tooth during the storm when he was thrown face first into a bulkhead.
    Salute t0 the greatest generation.

  • @oldsalt7534
    @oldsalt7534 2 года назад

    I was on the USS Robert H. McCard DD822 . We got ride out Hurricane Betsy in '65. Now that was the ride of a lifetime.

  • @mathbrown9099
    @mathbrown9099 2 года назад

    Ok, Mr. DS, You’ve slowed your repartee considerably so have doffed my cap by subscribing. Keep it slow, and keep many of your newest subs. Thank you.

  • @spraudoggy
    @spraudoggy 2 года назад +1

    Great story! What a ride that must have been for those sailors.

  • @markbegley1564
    @markbegley1564 2 года назад

    Brilliant job on narration and info, thank you. I'll be back!

  • @itsallspent
    @itsallspent 2 года назад +1

    I lived near Pittsburgh . It was a smokey city . They called money smoke. The polluted air injured my lungs. Grew up stoking a coal furnace. Most of the steel mills are gone.

  • @allgood6760
    @allgood6760 2 года назад

    Thanks for this 👍

  • @sierrawhiskey5155
    @sierrawhiskey5155 2 года назад

    Many thanks for making this. Would have been good to have a few more shops of the damage & repairs at the end.

  • @barrykevin7658
    @barrykevin7658 2 года назад

    Brilliant Channel.

  • @marianosantopinto
    @marianosantopinto 2 года назад

    I love your work man

  • @rogerjohnson2562
    @rogerjohnson2562 2 года назад

    A really enjoyable and informative video, thanks!

  • @roypublic3269
    @roypublic3269 2 года назад +4

    In 1992 I was on a Navy contracted Research vessel running from Kauai to Oahu to escape Hurricane Iniki when we got an SOS call for a sinking fishing vessel. We launched a 16 foot RIB in 30' seas in the middle of the night to search for survivors. Going up and down those monsters was one of the craziest things I ever did. Being an adrenaline junky, I laughed all night like Lt. Dan on that little "Shrimp" boat.

    • @JHNielson4851
      @JHNielson4851 2 года назад

      Did you rescue any survivors?

    • @roypublic3269
      @roypublic3269 2 года назад

      @@JHNielson4851 No. One person died, the rest were picked up by the CG.

  • @ogkush2539
    @ogkush2539 2 года назад +1

    Love your videos and the amazing impacting footage of the time also your narrations you seriously put in work not sure if it's just a one man show running these channel's but if not you got a great team salute🇺🇸👏🏼👌🏼💯 As well as your other channels I'm subbed to all of them 👍🏼

  • @0mn0mable
    @0mn0mable 2 года назад +3

    "the longest ship in the world" hah! Not only did the Greatest Generation save t he world from tyranny, they also had some top-tier comedy/zingers. Literally lol'd at the end when i heard the punchline.

  • @darylsmioth1904
    @darylsmioth1904 2 года назад +4

    During the Korean war my father was a weatherman and they flew ahead of the ships to help steer them away from major storms. No weather satellites back then and everything had to be done by plane.

  • @huwzebediahthomas9193
    @huwzebediahthomas9193 2 года назад +9

    That German movie is a must watch for anyone that hasn't seen it - Das Boot. The one about one of their WW2 submarines. Those in the know who have been in such sharp ends said it was totally realistic. The scene where it is battling through weather on the surface for speed, ultra dramatic.

    • @al1rednam
      @al1rednam 2 года назад +1

      Agreed.
      But beware, there are 3 versions of it.
      The original is a TV movie in 6 parts of ~1h each. Sadly I couldn't find a DVD of that. I'm 45 now but I remember the times in the 80ies (often around Xmas for whatever reason) I was glued to the TV 30 minutes in advance and full of suspense.
      Then there came a ~100min cinematic version. That one is just trash in my opinion. It's reduced to a cheap action movie.
      Last there is a director's cut of the cinematic version. That one is all right. Not as good as the 6h version but much easier to find

    • @JEJAK5396
      @JEJAK5396 2 года назад

      @@al1rednam Weird how it’s hard to find anything good produced about the German involvement in WW2

    • @al1rednam
      @al1rednam 2 года назад

      @@JEJAK5396 you're right.
      One part of the weirdness (and not the smallest one) is, that anyone who tries to show some realistic portrait of the german side of this time without overemphasizing the negative aspects risks to be called a N**i - at least in Germany.
      We as "the Germans" still proudly carry the shame of our ancestors where we would do well to finally come to terms with our past.
      In that regard even "Das Boot" is displaying a euphemism as it's crew (from the Ka'Leu aka captain lieutenant down to Wilhelm the ghost) don't just act out any order but are displayed having a conscience. Just look into the Ka'Leus eyes when he has to order "engines back" instead of saving survivors of a burning ship they just sank.
      According to written testimony I got more of the impression that at least persons in leading position were chosen for their loyalty or believe in the Reich.
      But nevertheless the atmosphere aboard U96 is definitely well and captivating displayed.
      I have visited the movie prop at Bavaria Studios in Munich and an actual WW2 Uboat at Kiel. I was disappointed by the clean look and feel of the original...

    • @JEJAK5396
      @JEJAK5396 2 года назад

      @@al1rednam The perspective you and the rest of the world has been given about Germany in WW2 is inaccurate at best and a betrayal of truth at its worst. The fact that we have to pretend that only some Germans had a conscience and weren’t all bloodthirsty monsters is preposterous. The history books you grew up studying were and are not accurate.

  • @scotth6814
    @scotth6814 2 года назад +3

    I'm amazed that the bow stayed afloat on it's own.

  • @robertweilmuenster1178
    @robertweilmuenster1178 2 года назад +5

    My dad was on the USS Attu, CVE 102, they were in the same typhoon and followed the Pittsburgh back for repairs, as their flight deck had been raised 3 feet. He said he was so sick he didn't care if they sank or stayed afloat......

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 2 года назад

      My grandfather was on the island of Attu.

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 2 года назад +1

    Awesome tale!

  • @magicsinglez
    @magicsinglez 2 года назад

    A retired admiral was talking about something like this. On a Nimitz class carrier they were returning to Norfolk. Waves came up to the flight deck. Water came up to/onto the flight deck at the peak of the worst waves. They weren’t even in a hurricane. They were following a hurricane after first letting it pass.

  • @benjaminrush4443
    @benjaminrush4443 2 года назад

    Wow! Never knew about this Incident. Excellent. Thanks.

  • @franktatom1837
    @franktatom1837 2 года назад

    My father told me about this typhoon, he was on the USS Torrance, KA76, he said several smaller ships crested waves so high that the ships broke and sank in minutes. There was little reporting on it during the war because the typhoon was known to be approaching and could have been avoided. My father said the fleet admiral (Halsey, I believe), should have been court-martialed and imprisoned. Halsey was known for making incorrect decisions, such as buying the Japanese feint during the invasion of the Phillipines that left the rear of the invasion fleet exposed. Halsey and his staff (McCain included) were always saved by the bravery and commitment of the sailors and Marines that served under them - as were many generals and admirals throughout history.

  • @mrpritchard3535
    @mrpritchard3535 2 года назад +1

    good story about my home town. thanks

  • @AirborneAnt
    @AirborneAnt 2 года назад +22

    In WW2, more US Navy ships were lost to the weather, than were lost to the enemy…

    • @huwzebediahthomas9193
      @huwzebediahthomas9193 2 года назад +8

      Suppressed at the time, yes. Can't take chances with Mother Nature at her worst.

    • @zorankomadina7540
      @zorankomadina7540 2 года назад +5

      Yes officially , because of U Boats.

    • @jameschenard7691
      @jameschenard7691 2 года назад +2

      Not to nitpick but that’s only true if you’re talking about the merchant marine and you take into account Zoran Komadina’s comment.

    • @timber_wulf5775
      @timber_wulf5775 2 года назад

      You’re not to bright on history huh?

    • @AirborneAnt
      @AirborneAnt 2 года назад

      @@timber_wulf5775 the pacific typhoons lol…guess you missed that one there bright guy

  • @skiddrowe9104
    @skiddrowe9104 2 года назад +1

    GOOD TO SEE......KID ROCK-WE THE PEOPLE-(OFFICIAL VIDEO)...........SO TREMENDOUS!!!! SO FINE.....SO GREAT.......SO TRUE AMERICANA.

  • @michaelmcdonald3057
    @michaelmcdonald3057 2 года назад

    I was a BT on the U.S.S. Cone DD866 in Viet Nam in the South China Sea . While trying to skirt a typhoon to meet up with an oiler we encountered seas of 75 to 100 feet. On cresting one of these monsters our stern came up completely exposing the twin screws (25 tons of bronze each) to the air. The sudden loss of pressure on the starboard prop caused it to separate from the shaft and fall to the bottom. We managed to steer around the storm with considerable difficulty and much reviewing of the possible existence of God.

  • @robertwaddell1161
    @robertwaddell1161 2 года назад

    Very nice narrative on the war, weather and such. But very little on storm damage.

  • @dullonion797
    @dullonion797 2 года назад +1

    Onboard USS Independence CV-62…and across Atlantic ended up in the west side of an eastern moving hurricane. It slowed and Indy became ‘stuck’….couldn’t turn out of winds or away from huge seas on the bow. Slowed to minimum steerage and rode it out. CO sat on bridge for about 30 hours….later said he wasn’t sure the ship would survive it. Ship lost all its deck level antennas and bow catwalks aft to island.