well it's one of my favorite of the series along with PES for PS and Pes 6. Pes 11 in my opinion is the closest KONAMI have ever been to a perfect football sim ( with the right kit and transfer patch of course). The passing system is really good. I also have some remarks - like the goalkepers' reactions are sometimes plain stupid.. like jumping sideways when you try to lob him or the knukleshot is a bit unrealistic ( but i give them credit for trying to incorporate it in the game)
only amateurs who are brainwashed by media like fifa... the real pro's know pes is the only soccer game. it's a simulation, not an arcade.. fifa is cool for friends on a party but if you want the real thing, the real tactics and real feeling than there is only pes. ea sports is trash.
i have my xbox360.been playing fifa 11 at the beginning, then after few months i have tried pes 11.pes 11 with all the problems in the game, is a much more realistic football and a lot deeper than fifa 11.the only reason why many gamers can't play pes 11 is because this game is not easy to pick up with the gameplay style. MESSI does feel very much MESSI and also players like ronaldo.you do feel the players in pes 11.in fifa they all pretty much feel the same even with the personality
I was a PES player for a while, but now im a FIFA player. Both games are fantastic in their own way. PES has AMAZING graphics and a really fun game to play. But when i tried FIFA for the first time, everything seemed so flexible. It was easier to do tricks and it was alot satisfying to score goals. Both games are amazing but i prefer FIFA :)
PES has amazing flow..its just that most players dont use the momentum of the ball. FIFA uses more flow because the players are allowed to do the physically impossible.
what do you think of PES11?...I think its the most perfect soccer game made...the graphics and movements are beautiful..and the gameplay is fun...the players dont make unrealistic movements and you can get the triangle passing going.
A lot of people play PES as it's easier, in FIFA you have to sweat to make a goal, just like real life! If you want a challenge when you are playing against CPU or your friends then play FIFA, if you want easiest gameplay, more wins, and less frustration because you can't score or pass the defense.. just go PES. And if you want REAL football experience go out to a pitch and play with friends!
@ltkmessi I think that Manager mode in PES is more complex. You have more options, better graphics, and it seems more realistic. The only 1 thing I dont like in PES is that you have to wait for a long time during transfers to transfer a player. In FIFA when you put someone on the the transfer list on the other day you got many offers. In PES its much harder to buy and sell a player.
I just picked up Pes 11 today and I have to say it's a better game than FIFA 11. FIFA does some really nice things but with Pes is that I see a much better representation of soccer than FIFA. This is coming from someone with 11 years of experience playing. I think it was Pes 10 or 09 that was really bad but Pes 11 is a great game.
what puts me of the most about pes is how the players run if they sort that out and all the licenses for the teams and everything else game play wise they might stand a chance
the ball control on pes 11 is 10 times better than on fifa 11.fifa games always make you feel "unsafe" when you go for a drrible.pes is always better in this. pes11 has a much better agility and free movement.fifa is only better in tricks, but i don't give a shit about this that much
i think generally pes is better because pes is more realistic..the movements of the players and the gameplay is more realistic than fifa..that's what i think..(and if i've said something wrong then sorry for my english..:)..)
i've been playing fifa almost all my life ... from fifa 2001 to fifa 2010 ... recently i discovered PES ... what you notice in fifa is the momevement ... sure it's realistic and so on ... but it has a massive flaw ... the game engine is designed in such a way that the motions repeat themselves all the time which means the chance of getting something priceless like a goal or move is almost 0% ... PES lacks that engine which means PES > FIFA i played both but simply PES is more realistic ...
It never really bothered me that PES never had a "full" license. Quite the opposite actually. Whenever I got the new PES (3,4,5,6,2008 are what I played before I switched to FIFA) I spent the first 4 to 8 hours just tinkering with it. Changing the names of the teams and players, checking their abilities and if needed tuning them and all this before the first kickoff. It might be just me but I really liked that. :D
I think that new defense system is awful and so impractical... i think they try to make the games way to realistic and are not really fun anymore! Also the Goalkeeper still have troubles deflecting shots.. I have a lot of ideas I think Konami can use to make a great ,realistic and fun game. Maybe they should make the feint moves more to do with the arrows so you can glide past players and really test your skill instead of random combos.... And for FIFA it will never be good, awful engine,faces..
i have played Winning eleven, then PES 3, 4, 5, 6, 2008, 2009, then I switched to Fifa 9, 10, 11, and now i come back to Pes 11 because all my friends are playing Pes 11 now, in my opinion, FIFA 11 is the most brilliant soccer game there is on earth
I played both of these games, and I have to say that PES is much better. Better passes, easier control, and I love the graphics! IMO PES wins this year! :D
@flotech66 totally true, a good game is a game that doesn't need any changes, but a better game is a game that makes you want to change just to enjoy it like it should!
I can sorta see what they were trying to do with PES12..i'm still trying to get into it. I'm good with Spain and Holland. I think they could have made the graphics a bit bolder to give it that classic pro ev feel. And I think they should have touched up the animation becuase some movements just look unnatural. It seems they were focusing on having more direct/quicker gameplay as opposed to strings of passing movements. I keep giving the game a chance..sometimes mostly get frustrated with it.
Graphics - FIFA Gameplay - FIFA Controls - FIFA Commentary - FIFA Licensing - FIFA Ultimate Team vs Online Mater league - Ultimate Team I have both games and i honestly think FIFA's the better game
All of you fanboys are exaggerating the flaws of either game you hate. They're both great games, each in their own way. If you wanna have a fun kick around, get PES 2011, if you wanna delve into the serious stuff, get Fifa 11. (or wait until PES and Fifa 12 come out)
Did u guys realized La liga had Pes 2011 on the adverting board few months ago now they have Fifa 11 or Somos 11 on it. Even Liga Bbva the only good partially licensed team has left them
I used to play fifa since 1994 until 2004. on 2005 i discovered PES series which i think is more realistic and fun to play, while FIFA was too slow monotonic. in PES you were able to score so many different goals, in FIFA it's just 1 on 1 situations or a header after a cross or corner. However, i think this year, FIFA finaly came back and made the biggest improvment since their last title at 2003. i own both games, and i must say, this year - it's deffinitely FIFA.
@ThaProo1 it is really dependent in what kind of game style you prefer.fifa is more like a team game .on pes you have some more time to preform some individual play.someone like messi feels much more powerfull on pes than on fifa.i choose pes because i like the freedom that the game offers me.pes 11 has some many issues that need to be fixed of course, but it is still my choice
Fifa has always been better for me until this year. I like the gameplay, however, having installed it into my hardrive, has become offline and online for unknown reasons. Therefore, I will be getting PES 2011 to see if it fares any better.
In my opinion, if you play more with friends, you can't beat PES, if you love the solo play than FIFA is the best. PES has the graphics, the physics and it's easy for any starter, FIFA has all the leagues, all the teams, all the players, and a lot more space for improvement because it's not as simple as PES. I love both, but I'm a PES fan.
I have had Pes every single year right from Pes 1. Pes 6 was undoubtedly the best game of PS2. Now that they are on the bigger consoles I have noticed FIFA has just accelerated forward and I think they have yet to get Pes right. Although, Pes is getting there and money comparison, Konami are do very well, considering EA are the 2nd richest Games Company in the world.
You cant say which one is better, everyone has different opinions, i think the only ones who can say which games is better are professional footballers themselves.
fifa has the worst keepers. Sometimes it's just painful when the keeper lets a slow(i mean really slow) shot pass through. point is, it's too freaking easy to score.
pes 11 is a very powerfull football game.despite all the issues that need to be fixed,it's still much more football than fifa 11. fifa 11 is more like a directed show when the players are always loosing their balance and fall down for no reason. when i am playing pes 11 on my xbox360 , i do feel very much involved in a real football game.let's hope that pes 12 will bring some new high standard with it so we won't have to compare both games again.
@sionpwns It's the same with the passing.. With PES it is so much more precise and harder than Fifa.. which makes it more realistic and gives the better players a chance to shine.. Either way, it's just a matter of opinion and me blabbing about the pros of pes isn't gonna change your mind and vice versa too..
I completely agree..I think PES11 was thye best soccer game ever made. And I thought FIFA12 was their best attempt but I dont like it either. And they changed PES12 soo much..its soo hard..what did you think?
I remember those days when I used to play these games on pc. Fifa was boring and repetitive, Pes was much better. But ultimately I got tired of both games. I'll be back when I'm no longer troubled by homework, and one of them creates a truly incredible, unpredictable game.
The Facts: You will side what you play EVEN if its slightly worse. PES wins as a competitive game. FIFA being the official game, has monopoly over teams. Gamplay mainly depends on you, If PES2011 is like NFS. FIFA2011 is more Mario Kart. You can take both seriously but they have different learning curves. If you hate losing to noobs, go PRO. If you want more teams, FIFA. Ultimately I think you'll adapt to what your friends play .
the amount of boots,and how each boots have their own attributes,and boot updates thru-out the season when new boots are released in real life,unlike fifa who have the same 4pair of nike boots,and a pair of nike lime green mercurials (the boots neymar usually wears),yet ur unable to use them on your virtual pro(created player) instead u have to use the basic ea lime green basic boots lol,and detail put into players individually...eg.tattoos ect...that in my opinion is superior to fifas selection
But imagine this,if fifa and pes developers were to fuse,there would be no competition so they would get allot of money,we would get a much better game and everyone would be happy.
Im interested...Could you expand mate? Im considering PES 13... I had pes 10 and thought the defense played way too deep, teams were not compact at all. huge gaps between midfield and strikers, strikers never dropped off to collect like rooney does. In the new do players use space intelligently. When you say pES is more realistic what exactly do you mean? Im not interested in player faces and animations, im interested in working opening and creating chances like Barca
i dont understand why so many people like pes more than fifa, i mean the graphics are better and everything is pretty realistic, but i just hate the pes running(as if you run like that in real life, shooting (ball is always spinning backwards) and its really hard to make skill moves in pes
@JumpDiveSlope yeah definitely know what you mean... fifa just feels a bit more 'real' to play, whilst pes like you say does feel more cold and empty. however, pes does feel more arcade-ish and this can sometimes be a winner. however, if im having a sesh with the lads, fifa >> pes anyday. Fifa is just a bit more well rounded, where you can play all out attack in an arcade style mashup, but you can play realistic tactical midfield battles too. it's just more well rounded imo.
@jordan23850 your english is actually pretty good my friend. and i agree, this year Fifa is better, but only if you learn extra stuff like placed shot and all kinds of tricks. it makes the game far more realistic and enables you to score some nice goals unlike previous Fifa games. the problem with PES remains the licenses. the crowd is terrible, the announcers are terrible there's no real football game atmosphere like in Fifa
FIFA 12:be the referee FIFA 13:be the lineman FIFA 14:be a fan FIFA 15:be Jimmy Jump FIFA 16:be the ball FIFA 17:be the grass FIFA 18:be the post FIFA 19:be Maradonas tie FIFA 20:be a bartender at a sports bar FIFA 21:be the camera man FIFA 22:be the commentator FIFA 23:be the clouds (be the rain and snow too) FIFA 24:be Messis Blackberry FIFA 25:be Sergio Ramos's hair FIFA 26:be the global warming (extra:be an earthquake,tsunami or tornando) Put this on other FIFA videos to make 'em laugh :D
If any of you had played pro evo like you said you did and claimed "oh no licenses boohoo", you would have known in 5 mins you would have everything settled with one click of an option file, PS3, PC, Xbox360. All teams proper kits, names etc. That's cause PES has an amazing edit mode and editing community, which makes it worthwhile cause Konami gives us fans freedom to change things. I rather have totally no licenses.
@Marcatosh i wont agree with you cause moves in fifa are done more Naturally and u can see player moving the ball rly well in fifa, pess only has better graphics that is all that is better in Pess ! Actions are much better in fifa as well
@Roberi1991 the gameplay on pes 11 is very tough this year, but when you try fifa11 gameplay ,it is boring after few days and very annoys in my opinion.pes 11 gameplay is more deep and more challenge for me because nothing is going easy there like on real life .ofcourse there are some issues to be fixed for next year, but still i choose pes 11 style
PETE DONALDSON, A WHOOHOO :p He's the producer of the podcast for the football ramble. I don't work for the podcast but honestly it's really funny. Just if you fancy look it up on iTunes :)
Heres the breakdown: FIFA=Realistic, alot of skill needed-Can be stressful PES=Fun Kick about with friends-9/10 Fun Both games are Epic in their own rights.
iv always bought fifa games since fifa 96 on ps1...lol,but i had too too too many problems with fifa 2011...game freezing on a basic 'quick match'...whenever the other team does a substitute...kicked from the servers during online games...game freezing on certain screens for no reason...but gameplay wise is everything i want...both virtual pro (clubs) and ultimate team are BRILLIANT!!!...i was wondering if pro evo has anything similar to fifas VIRTUAL PRO?...one thing i do like about pes tho is
@SGT69 did you play PES though? I guess no, because I played both of these games and I like them both. But I think that PES is a little bit better. I love the graphics in PES and alot of stuff, but goals scored from a long distance in FIFA are just epic! These both games are good!
Having both i love them both. But the licensing on PES is pathetically poor. I only play manager mode/master league. Fifas manager mode is infuriating as your player can be made man of the match for 3 matches and you'll get an email saying he's doing poorly and his overall is a point less.
@ArjaeEajra perhaps pes 11 tricks system is not that advanced like on fifa 11, but it's more effective in the game.on fifa 11 you just go crazy with the tricks and still nothing really happen
fifa may have the gameplay but it lacks an in depth career mode, presentation, SERVERS, takes to long to load subs etc. but pes has presentation but lacks great tackling, shooting, crossing, physics, passing, faces but at least the stadiums have steps. they are both great in their own ways but fifa is just overall better. but they both need imrpvment. pes is gameplay, fifa in modes.
i've been waiting.. when PES and FIFA is going to be 1 game.. it will becomes Pro Evolution FIFA.. it will be cool games ever.. combination of Best Quality graphic and Best Quality gameplay..
There is no comparison, PES hands down! The only thing that i liked on fifa was the shooting and more free player moves. PES is way better in gameplay and in speed of menu, the little things that really count when you play it.
I don't know why but I still prefer PES. Since Fifa 96 that I prefer Konami football games instead of the EA ones... Nowadays I only buy EA football games when there is a World Cup or European Cup.
@AlbertimusPrime wut? if i am not mistaken, you can choose your own celebration by pressing certain buttons or moving the analog. I was disappointed with some animation of the celebrations though, stiff and unnatural somehow.
the only thing i like on pes 11 are the systen requirements , because i can run it on high without a better CPU but fifa is more good , graphics and gameplay
@Youkickmydog1988 thank you dude, i am glad to meet someone who knows a bout football: fifa 11 is so much directed and just a big show.pes 11 is a true football game. my xbox360 can't handle the fifa 11 disc (-: can you believe it? (-:
Pro Evo was always better on ps2 and xbox, but when they moved the games to ps3/xbox 360 fifa improved drastically and pes stayed still....Fifa's now a better game
The funny is that easports have copied alot of PES for example the menus before a game where you pick your squad. That was already in PES 4. Fifa is to static, like a train on a trail. In PES EVERYTHING can happen. It's more random.
I've played both. FIFA 9/10 PES 8/10 Just because FIFA is slightly better, doesn't mean you should just hate PES, this fanboyism pisses me off. Online is a lot better on FIFA though.
how is pes realistic ? i play real football for a local club and i still think that fifa is better, i play as a defensive midfielder and the slide tackles in pes is just ridiculous as you can fly over when you get tackled :)
@TheRahan100 no, indeed, i agree with you sir. fifa is just easier and pes is harder. in pes, if you can past almost the whole defence with doing tricks, then you're just really good.
you american guys dont like pes because you are custom with fifa gameplay for longer but if you play pes more often you will feel it a way better than fifa... it's become more difficult nowadays but both have distinctive differences in their gameplay.... the gameplay in pes really like the real..... as well as the graphic.... for me pes is much better than fifa
im one of the biggest football fans ull meet, but im starting to find football games boring, they are not moving on fast enough in technology and this arguament (fifa vs pes) is getting really old.
FIFA se especializa en el juego invidual, osea dribles, movimientos, muuy bueno en eso el FIFA, cosa que atrae a los aficionados no conocedor de aspectos tacticos ni tecnicos (osea la mayoria), el PES se especializa en el juego en equipo, trianguilaciones, paredes cortas y rapidas, contragolpes, cosa que atrae al aficionado concedor de aspectos tacticos, que lamentablemente son pocos, es por eso que no tiene tantas liciencias, pues no vende los suficienta para pagarlas =(
If you like the harder and better gameplay go for the pes. (the graphic is not bad too,its actually pretty good) For realism go for Fifa ( The gameplay is not bad too,its pretty good.) i own both of them and enjoy playing both of it
This was a really one sided interview leaning towards PES. But hes right, if you want to just play, get PES, but if youre serious about football, Fifa.
@DjJoeee i think the best name will be FIFA EVOLUTION 12 :)) .....with pes graphic and fifa gameplay , they can make a great game , and people will buy it without regard to price . For true fans of football games it doesen't matter the price , no ?
well it's one of my favorite of the series along with PES for PS and Pes 6. Pes 11 in my opinion is the closest KONAMI have ever been to a perfect football sim ( with the right kit and transfer patch of course). The passing system is really good. I also have some remarks - like the goalkepers' reactions are sometimes plain stupid.. like jumping sideways when you try to lob him or the knukleshot is a bit unrealistic ( but i give them credit for trying to incorporate it in the game)
"You can buy both or you can buy neither..." Or you can download both and play the one you like! :D
only amateurs who are brainwashed by media like fifa...
the real pro's know pes is the only soccer game. it's a simulation, not an arcade.. fifa is cool for friends on a party but if you want the real thing, the real tactics and real feeling than there is only pes. ea sports is trash.
Oobe Exactly ❤
This still holds up.
i have my xbox360.been playing fifa 11 at the beginning, then after few months i have tried pes 11.pes 11 with all the problems in the game, is a much more realistic football and a lot deeper than fifa 11.the only reason why many gamers can't play pes 11 is because this game is not easy to pick up with the gameplay style.
MESSI does feel very much MESSI and also players like ronaldo.you do feel the players in pes 11.in fifa they all pretty much feel the same even with the personality
I was a PES player for a while, but now im a FIFA player. Both games are fantastic in their own way. PES has AMAZING graphics and a really fun game to play. But when i tried FIFA for the first time, everything seemed so flexible. It was easier to do tricks and it was alot satisfying to score goals. Both games are amazing but i prefer FIFA :)
PES has amazing flow..its just that most players dont use the momentum of the ball.
FIFA uses more flow because the players are allowed to do the physically impossible.
what do you think of PES11?...I think its the most perfect soccer game made...the graphics and movements are beautiful..and the gameplay is fun...the players dont make unrealistic movements and you can get the triangle passing going.
A lot of people play PES as it's easier, in FIFA you have to sweat to make a goal, just like real life! If you want a challenge when you are playing against CPU or your friends then play FIFA, if you want easiest gameplay, more wins, and less frustration because you can't score or pass the defense.. just go PES.
And if you want REAL football experience go out to a pitch and play with friends!
@ltkmessi
I think that Manager mode in PES is more complex. You have more options, better graphics, and it seems more realistic. The only 1 thing I dont like in PES is that you have to wait for a long time during transfers to transfer a player. In FIFA when you put someone on the the transfer list on the other day you got many offers. In PES its much harder to buy and sell a player.
I just picked up Pes 11 today and I have to say it's a better game than FIFA 11. FIFA does some really nice things but with Pes is that I see a much better representation of soccer than FIFA. This is coming from someone with 11 years of experience playing. I think it was Pes 10 or 09 that was really bad but Pes 11 is a great game.
what puts me of the most about pes is how the players run if they sort that out and all the licenses for the teams and everything else game play wise they might stand a chance
the ball control on pes 11 is 10 times better than on fifa 11.fifa games always make you feel "unsafe" when you go for a drrible.pes is always better in this.
pes11 has a much better agility and free movement.fifa is only better in tricks, but i don't give a shit about this that much
i think generally pes is better because pes is more realistic..the movements of the players and the gameplay is more realistic than fifa..that's what i think..(and if i've said something wrong then sorry for my english..:)..)
i've been playing fifa almost all my life ... from fifa 2001 to fifa 2010 ... recently i discovered PES ... what you notice in fifa is the momevement ... sure it's realistic and so on ... but it has a massive flaw ... the game engine is designed in such a way that the motions repeat themselves all the time which means the chance of getting something priceless like a goal or move is almost 0% ... PES lacks that engine which means
PES > FIFA
i played both but simply PES is more realistic ...
What you played from 2011 to 2021??
It never really bothered me that PES never had a "full" license. Quite the opposite actually. Whenever I got the new PES (3,4,5,6,2008 are what I played before I switched to FIFA) I spent the first 4 to 8 hours just tinkering with it. Changing the names of the teams and players, checking their abilities and if needed tuning them and all this before the first kickoff. It might be just me but I really liked that. :D
I think that new defense system is awful and so impractical... i think they try to make the games way to realistic and are not really fun anymore! Also the Goalkeeper still have troubles deflecting shots.. I have a lot of ideas I think Konami can use to make a great ,realistic and fun game. Maybe they should make the feint moves more to do with the arrows so you can glide past players and really test your skill instead of random combos.... And for FIFA it will never be good, awful engine,faces..
i have played Winning eleven, then PES 3, 4, 5, 6, 2008, 2009, then I switched to Fifa 9, 10, 11, and now i come back to Pes 11 because all my friends are playing Pes 11 now, in my opinion, FIFA 11 is the most brilliant soccer game there is on earth
@RatoDoEsgoto
DUDE WTF Pes has the most robotty walk of every football game in the world
I played both of these games, and I have to say that PES is much better.
Better passes, easier control, and I love the graphics!
IMO PES wins this year! :D
@flotech66 totally true, a good game is a game that doesn't need any changes, but a better game is a game that makes you want to change just to enjoy it like it should!
I can sorta see what they were trying to do with PES12..i'm still trying to get into it. I'm good with Spain and Holland.
I think they could have made the graphics a bit bolder to give it that classic pro ev feel. And I think they should have touched up the animation becuase some movements just look unnatural. It seems they were focusing on having more direct/quicker gameplay as opposed to strings of passing movements.
I keep giving the game a chance..sometimes mostly get frustrated with it.
Graphics - FIFA
Gameplay - FIFA
Controls - FIFA
Commentary - FIFA
Licensing - FIFA
Ultimate Team vs Online Mater league - Ultimate Team
I have both games and i honestly think FIFA's the better game
All of you fanboys are exaggerating the flaws of either game you hate. They're both great games, each in their own way. If you wanna have a fun kick around, get PES 2011, if you wanna delve into the serious stuff, get Fifa 11. (or wait until PES and Fifa 12 come out)
Did u guys realized La liga had Pes 2011 on the adverting board few months ago
now they have Fifa 11 or Somos 11 on it. Even Liga Bbva the only good partially licensed team has left them
check it on wikipedia man, FIFA developers are from Canada and its well known.
people who say that FIFA is better than PES have never played football before
graphic and edit: pes 2011
gameplay and skills: fifa 11
hope you like it
I used to play fifa since 1994 until 2004. on 2005 i discovered PES series which i think is more realistic and fun to play, while FIFA was too slow monotonic.
in PES you were able to score so many different goals, in FIFA it's just 1 on 1 situations or a header after a cross or corner.
However, i think this year, FIFA finaly came back and made the biggest improvment since their last title at 2003.
i own both games, and i must say, this year - it's deffinitely FIFA.
@ThaProo1 it is really dependent in what kind of game style you prefer.fifa is more like a team game .on pes you have some more time to preform some individual play.someone like messi feels much more powerfull on pes than on fifa.i choose pes because i like the freedom that the game offers me.pes 11 has some many issues that need to be fixed of course, but it is still my choice
Fifa has always been better for me until this year. I like the gameplay, however, having installed it into my hardrive, has become offline and online for unknown reasons. Therefore, I will be getting PES 2011 to see if it fares any better.
In my opinion, if you play more with friends, you can't beat PES, if you love the solo play than FIFA is the best. PES has the graphics, the physics and it's easy for any starter, FIFA has all the leagues, all the teams, all the players, and a lot more space for improvement because it's not as simple as PES. I love both, but I'm a PES fan.
I have had Pes every single year right from Pes 1. Pes 6 was undoubtedly the best game of PS2. Now that they are on the bigger consoles I have noticed FIFA has just accelerated forward and I think they have yet to get Pes right. Although, Pes is getting there and money comparison, Konami are do very well, considering EA are the 2nd richest Games Company in the world.
You cant say which one is better, everyone has different opinions, i think the only ones who can say which games is better are professional footballers themselves.
fifa has the worst keepers. Sometimes it's just painful when the keeper lets a slow(i mean really slow) shot pass through. point is, it's too freaking easy to score.
pes 11 is a very powerfull football game.despite all the issues that need to be fixed,it's still much more football than fifa 11. fifa 11 is more like a directed show when the players are always loosing their balance and fall down for no reason.
when i am playing pes 11 on my xbox360 , i do feel very much involved in a real football game.let's hope that pes 12 will bring some new high standard with it so we won't have to compare both games again.
@sionpwns It's the same with the passing.. With PES it is so much more precise and harder than Fifa.. which makes it more realistic and gives the better players a chance to shine..
Either way, it's just a matter of opinion and me blabbing about the pros of pes isn't gonna change your mind and vice versa too..
@khrystyyoo10 you right, but I think a good gameplay (FIFA 11) is much more important than great graphisme (PES 2011)
I completely agree..I think PES11 was thye best soccer game ever made.
And I thought FIFA12 was their best attempt but I dont like it either. And they changed PES12 soo much..its soo hard..what did you think?
I remember those days when I used to play these games on pc. Fifa was boring and repetitive, Pes was much better. But ultimately I got tired of both games. I'll be back when I'm no longer troubled by homework, and one of them creates a truly incredible, unpredictable game.
The Facts:
You will side what you play EVEN if its slightly worse.
PES wins as a competitive game.
FIFA being the official game, has monopoly over teams.
Gamplay mainly depends on you,
If PES2011 is like NFS.
FIFA2011 is more Mario Kart.
You can take both seriously but they have different learning curves.
If you hate losing to noobs, go PRO.
If you want more teams, FIFA.
Ultimately I think you'll adapt to what your friends play .
the amount of boots,and how each boots have their own attributes,and boot updates thru-out the season when new boots are released in real life,unlike fifa who have the same 4pair of nike boots,and a pair of nike lime green mercurials (the boots neymar usually wears),yet ur unable to use them on your virtual pro(created player) instead u have to use the basic ea lime green basic boots lol,and detail put into players individually...eg.tattoos ect...that in my opinion is superior to fifas selection
But imagine this,if fifa and pes developers were to fuse,there would be no competition so they would get allot of money,we would get a much better game and everyone would be happy.
Im interested...Could you expand mate? Im considering PES 13... I had pes 10 and thought the defense played way too deep, teams were not compact at all. huge gaps between midfield and strikers, strikers never dropped off to collect like rooney does. In the new do players use space intelligently. When you say pES is more realistic what exactly do you mean? Im not interested in player faces and animations, im interested in working opening and creating chances like Barca
FIFA is better when it comes to gameplay and tricks but Pro Evo is a legendary serie since PES 6 was released ;) THAT game was absolutely amazing! ;D
i dont understand why so many people like pes more than fifa, i mean the graphics are better and everything is pretty realistic, but i just hate the pes running(as if you run like that in real life, shooting (ball is always spinning backwards) and its really hard to make skill moves in pes
I wish EA and Konami could work together to create the ultimate soccer game. Konami's got the graphics and EA's got the gameplay physics.
PES is like +18 , only people who know what is football play it .
FIFA is now more famous but only kids play it , it is like COD !!
@JumpDiveSlope yeah definitely know what you mean... fifa just feels a bit more 'real' to play, whilst pes like you say does feel more cold and empty. however, pes does feel more arcade-ish and this can sometimes be a winner. however, if im having a sesh with the lads, fifa >> pes anyday. Fifa is just a bit more well rounded, where you can play all out attack in an arcade style mashup, but you can play realistic tactical midfield battles too. it's just more well rounded imo.
@jordan23850
your english is actually pretty good my friend.
and i agree, this year Fifa is better, but only if you learn extra stuff like placed shot and all kinds of tricks. it makes the game far more realistic and enables you to score some nice goals unlike previous Fifa games.
the problem with PES remains the licenses. the crowd is terrible, the announcers are terrible there's no real football game atmosphere like in Fifa
O MY GOSH...THEY GUESSED THE CHAMIONS LEAGUE FINAL....ON THE TV IN THE BACKGROUND, THE GAME GOING ON IS BARCA vs MANU
FIFA 12 - Be the Player runnin away from the earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis.
FIFA 12:be the referee
FIFA 13:be the lineman
FIFA 14:be a fan
FIFA 15:be Jimmy Jump
FIFA 16:be the ball
FIFA 17:be the grass
FIFA 18:be the post
FIFA 19:be Maradonas tie
FIFA 20:be a bartender at a sports bar
FIFA 21:be the camera man
FIFA 22:be the commentator
FIFA 23:be the clouds (be the rain and snow too)
FIFA 24:be Messis Blackberry
FIFA 25:be Sergio Ramos's hair
FIFA 26:be the global warming (extra:be an earthquake,tsunami or tornando)
Put this on other FIFA videos to make 'em laugh :D
If any of you had played pro evo like you said you did and claimed "oh no licenses boohoo", you would have known in 5 mins you would have everything settled with one click of an option file, PS3, PC, Xbox360. All teams proper kits, names etc. That's cause PES has an amazing edit mode and editing community, which makes it worthwhile cause Konami gives us fans freedom to change things. I rather have totally no licenses.
@Marcatosh i wont agree with you cause moves in fifa are done more Naturally and u can see player moving the ball rly well in fifa, pess only has better graphics that is all that is better in Pess ! Actions are much better in fifa as well
@christosGTAIV you are playing for the comentary or for the game.
@Roberi1991 the gameplay on pes 11 is very tough this year, but when you try fifa11 gameplay ,it is boring after few days and very annoys in my opinion.pes 11 gameplay is more deep and more challenge for me because nothing is going easy there like on real life .ofcourse there are some issues to be fixed for next year, but still i choose pes 11 style
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He's the producer of the podcast for the football ramble. I don't work for the podcast but honestly it's really funny. Just if you fancy look it up on iTunes :)
its all about how you set your formation and game plan.
The beauty of the FIFA is the licenses of all the teams, u can easily enjoy FIFA if u never played Futbol in the real life, but PES have best physic
Heres the breakdown:
FIFA=Realistic, alot of skill needed-Can be stressful
PES=Fun Kick about with friends-9/10 Fun
Both games are Epic in their own rights.
iv always bought fifa games since fifa 96 on ps1...lol,but i had too too too many problems with fifa 2011...game freezing on a basic 'quick match'...whenever the other team does a substitute...kicked from the servers during online games...game freezing on certain screens for no reason...but gameplay wise is everything i want...both virtual pro (clubs) and ultimate team are BRILLIANT!!!...i was wondering if pro evo has anything similar to fifas VIRTUAL PRO?...one thing i do like about pes tho is
@SGT69 did you play PES though? I guess no, because I played both of these games and I like them both. But I think that PES is a little bit better. I love the graphics in PES and alot of stuff, but goals scored from a long distance in FIFA are just epic!
These both games are good!
Having both i love them both. But the licensing on PES is pathetically poor. I only play manager mode/master league. Fifas manager mode is infuriating as your player can be made man of the match for 3 matches and you'll get an email saying he's doing poorly and his overall is a point less.
i used to say pes was no match to fifa, then the fifa 12 demo came out and i've been thinking otherwise now.....
@ArjaeEajra perhaps pes 11 tricks system is not that advanced like on fifa 11, but it's more effective in the game.on fifa 11 you just go crazy with the tricks and still nothing really happen
fifa may have the gameplay but it lacks an in depth career mode, presentation, SERVERS, takes to long to load subs etc. but pes has presentation but lacks great tackling, shooting, crossing, physics, passing, faces but at least the stadiums have steps. they are both great in their own ways but fifa is just overall better. but they both need imrpvment. pes is gameplay, fifa in modes.
i've been waiting.. when PES and FIFA is going to be 1 game.. it will becomes Pro Evolution FIFA.. it will be cool games ever.. combination of Best Quality graphic and Best Quality gameplay..
My opinion is that people hate PES because they play it on xbox and ps3?
There is no comparison, PES hands down! The only thing that i liked on fifa was the shooting and more free player moves. PES is way better in gameplay and in speed of menu, the little things that really count when you play it.
Does PES have a 'theater mode' ?
I don't know why but I still prefer PES. Since Fifa 96 that I prefer Konami football games instead of the EA ones... Nowadays I only buy EA football games when there is a World Cup or European Cup.
@AlbertimusPrime wut? if i am not mistaken, you can choose your own celebration by pressing certain buttons or moving the analog.
I was disappointed with some animation of the celebrations though, stiff and unnatural somehow.
@saamy23 if u want to experience a realistic passing in fifa11, just change your passing style in manual, you can feel that, much better the pes
the only thing i like on pes 11 are the systen requirements , because i can run it on high without a better CPU but fifa is more good , graphics and gameplay
"FIFA great game, looks amazing, BUT Pro Evo is so much fun" lol true...
i Just Love You Guyz, You Make So Many Awesome Videos :D
@Youkickmydog1988 thank you dude, i am glad to meet someone who knows a bout football:
fifa 11 is so much directed and just a big show.pes 11 is a true football game. my xbox360 can't handle the fifa 11 disc (-: can you believe it? (-:
Pro Evo was always better on ps2 and xbox, but when they moved the games to ps3/xbox 360 fifa improved drastically and pes stayed still....Fifa's now a better game
This is the second biggest rivalry in gaming I belive (after COD and MOH)
The funny is that easports have copied alot of PES for example the menus before a game where you pick your squad. That was already in PES 4. Fifa is to static, like a train on a trail. In PES EVERYTHING can happen. It's more random.
I've played both.
FIFA 9/10
PES 8/10
Just because FIFA is slightly better, doesn't mean you should just hate PES, this fanboyism pisses me off. Online is a lot better on FIFA though.
@100moneymaker1 yep, very much agree with you.some people choose pes gameplay like myself and some will take fifa gameplay.
both games are very good this year but i prefer PES (first time since pes6). Master league online is brilliant
how is pes realistic ? i play real football for a local club and i still think that fifa is better, i play as a defensive midfielder and the slide tackles in pes is just ridiculous as you can fly over when you get tackled :)
@TheRahan100 no, indeed, i agree with you sir. fifa is just easier and pes is harder. in pes, if you can past almost the whole defence with doing tricks, then you're just really good.
lately, i have replaced the fifa 11 with the pes 11 on my xbox360. it just feels more football and less a directed presentation like fifa
for all the people who criticize pes11 only for the missing licenses: 5 minutes of patch installation will fix your game, so stop crying about that !!
you american guys dont like pes because you are custom with fifa gameplay for longer but if you play pes more often you will feel it a way better than fifa... it's become more difficult nowadays but both have distinctive differences in their gameplay.... the gameplay in pes really like the real..... as well as the graphic.... for me pes is much better than fifa
im one of the biggest football fans ull meet, but im starting to find football games boring, they are not moving on fast enough in technology and this arguament (fifa vs pes) is getting really old.
FIFA 11 last 3 years made Significant change in football games
FIFA se especializa en el juego invidual, osea dribles, movimientos, muuy bueno en eso el FIFA, cosa que atrae a los aficionados no conocedor de aspectos tacticos ni tecnicos (osea la mayoria), el PES se especializa en el juego en equipo, trianguilaciones, paredes cortas y rapidas, contragolpes, cosa que atrae al aficionado concedor de aspectos tacticos, que lamentablemente son pocos, es por eso que no tiene tantas liciencias, pues no vende los suficienta para pagarlas =(
If you like the harder and better gameplay go for the pes. (the graphic is not bad too,its actually pretty good)
For realism go for Fifa ( The gameplay is not bad too,its pretty good.)
i own both of them and enjoy playing both of it
This was a really one sided interview leaning towards PES. But hes right, if you want to just play, get PES, but if youre serious about football, Fifa.
the master league in PES 11 is basically Ultimate Team in FIFA 11, but UT is much better
@DjJoeee i think the best name will be FIFA EVOLUTION 12 :)) .....with pes graphic and fifa gameplay , they can make a great game , and people will buy it without regard to price . For true fans of football games it doesen't matter the price , no ?
i think there shouldn't be any comparison. Just enjoy the games for Pete's sake.
Pro Evo was the fucking daddy for years. But, for maybe the last 3 or 4 years, it's been FIFA.
fifa could be so much better if it had an update system like pes with new boots etc
What a surprise. A tie. One guy likes one, the other likes the other. BUY 'EM BOTH! WE GET HAPPIER ADVERTISERS THAT WAY.
PES' graphics and realism + FIFA's mechanics and fluidity = SOMETHING THAT CANT BE EXPLAINED.