Keep in mind that some 30+ companies make 1911's and most of them do a poor job. The 1911 historically has been known as a very reliable and accurate handgun which is why MARSOC, Delta, LA SWAT, SIS, FBI HRT, and other top tier groups continue to use them. Not all 1911's are made from MIM parts hastily put together by unskilled labor (Kimber) then stamped with "Custom Shop" as a marketing trick. 1911's are pricey to produce properly (hand fitting) but that doesn't make them bad - just expensive.
I have a "big name" 1911 that has still required some "goings over" by my local gunsmith/gunwizard. I have a second 1911 from a less expensive name that, while looser fitting, has been far more reliable. But it uses quality parts through and through. However, from the factory, it isn't what I wanted, so it, too, needs some extra love from a gun wizard. Like MAC says, a 1911 requires good care and proper fitting. When they have the right fitting and care, they're reliable. But they're not cheap.
My wife has a Kimber 1911 in 9 mm, that cost $600 (sale price). It has the tightest tolerances of any semi-auto we own (including her Remington 1911 R1 Enhanced, and my SA Trophy Match 1911, both in .45 caliber). If you look at the back end of the slide, the fit to the frame and around the extractor and ejector looks to be microscopic. It also shoots an incredible group. It's not my favorite semi-auto by any means (I actually like the two .45s better), but I have no complaints about the Kimber.
fossil gamer What year is her Kimber? The pre-2000 45ACP models are were made well though after that they fell in quality in my experience. No experience with the 9mm versions.
Former meaning I no longer draw a check from Uncle Sugar and I don't wear the uniform. Yes, I am a Marine at heart and will always be. I rate the EGA, however I choose to no longer wear it. I honor the heritage of my beloved Corps through the use of our colors in the logo for MAC.
Actually, the Marines have been using the 1911 for decades. The MEU(SOC) preceded this pistol and this pistol, the MARSOC, is in fact issued to those who actually do the fighting -- because they requested it. MARSOC isn't a bunch of pencil pushers, they're front line warriors.
I love how humble Travis Haley is... In the online gun community that is often dominated by pompous jerks, it's really refreshing to see that from not only someone who is widely and deservedly respected for his knowledge and expertise (and he has a lot of it), but from someone who has put his life on the line for this great country of ours... To couple that with another great and humble member of the community in Tim, wow, kudos to you sir for giving a Recon Marine the honor of the first few rounds!
I'm not sure "humble" is the word I would use to describe Travis. I love the guy, don't get me wrong, but he has some arrogant aspects to his personality, and at times has demonstrated that he has a bit of a fragile ego. Regardless, none of that would stop me from paying for classes, or going to him for advice. In fact, the special forces tends to attract "arrogant" people, for similar reasons that fighter pilots, or the elite of any fields(particularly business) tends to attract these types of people(or perhaps I should say why these personality types tend to succeed in such situations/roles.)
OORAH! 1973-1976 I now have the NEED for one of these. When I was in the Corps, the 1911's we carried were worn out. They were shot to pieces. I have never owned a Colt but......I think I just found the ONE I have to have! Thanks for the professional, courteous review. God Bless! Semper Fi!
That means there's a lot of greedy people out there... Baer, Brown, Wilson, Nighthawk, Fusion, Dan Wesson, etc. Actually, the cost of producing a hand-fit 1911 is substantial. The margins are no different than on lower cost guns, they're just more expensive to produce.
+Military Arms Channel Why do you think that the Marine Corp gets better guns than the Army? Is it because the 'Corp' is a lot smaller and therefore they can spend the money on new pistols and grenade launchers? I'm an Army combat veteran myself and it pisses me off on what the Army is doing to its troops in terms of new weapons or there lack of.
+Okie Rider the only units in the Marine Corps that use the M45A1 to my knowledge are the Recon Battalions. MARSOC recently transition to the Glock 19's and the rest of the Corps are still issued the M9's
I'm just going to leave this here for anyone who is asking questions about why and how. -What merits do steel frames have over polymer? Steel frames, while heavier, have been shown to hold better with continued use wear. They also, due to their weight, allow for softer recoil (the mass absorbs some of the kick) and as such, better weapon handling in inexperienced people. They also have the "First shot on Target" rule going for them. A rule developed in the time of dueling, heavier weapons hold the barrel down more keeping the first shot on target rather than flying high. Polymer guns are more comfortable for extended carry due to being lighter and are "faster" to handle, they are also usually cheaper. - Is the recoil better on this than other 1911's? Very likely due to the double spring. - Capacity is dependent on the manufacturer, I have seen 1911 models that have 10 rounds and over. But a "True" `1911 holds 7 in the magazine and one in the chamber of .45. - Why did the marines choose this? A few of reasons. One is the caliber, the .45 has authority and presence and knockdown power that the 9mm only dreams of outside of rare loads. Second is service history, the 1911 has a very well proven history and is STILL used today in personal use and some units. The only two other weapons in the US arsenal with that kind of history are the M1 Garand variants (M14 and M14 EMR are variants of the original system) and the AR variants. Difference being the 1911 is still essentially the exact same weapon it always has been. Finally Tradition. The Marine Corps is very big on symbols and traditions. The 1911 is American designed and manufactured and is recognized worldwide as the quintessential American Handgun. As we were trying to grab Lugers in WW2, the Germans were trying to grab 1911's. The 1911 symbolizes American Pride, Longevity and History.
- Steel frames wear out slower but cost 3x-4x as much. This is not a benefit especially since the wear and tear differences are not that great. - First shot on target can be manipulated in many ways. Using weight is the worst for a person who has to carry their support gear on their backs. - Double springs are not exclusive to steel frames nor 1911's. That's actually a common thing especially aftermarket. - 10rd+ 1911's are due to aftermarket magazines which are not reliable. Double stacks have been attempted with some success. But this gun isn't one of them. - .45ACP hard ball ammo has very little advantage over 9mm. Knockdown power is a myth from the 90's. Ball ammo is less than 1mm thicker than a 9mm and does not expand. If someone says "energy transfer" and believes it then they should test this on their heads. - The 1911 is almost exclusive to USMC units. Nostalgia is about all I can think of as to why. You use a pistol to fight to get to your rifle. You don't do much fighting with 7rds. This isn't WW1 - The M14 stayed in service because it was in inventories and easier to get. There is a reason why they're replacing them completely with the m110. At the start of the wars it was easier to get and M14 than try to authorization to build a SAM-R order MK12 or SR-25. With no maintenance coverage you could pretty much do what you wanted to the things and no one would care. Want to chop the barrel on that M14 and drill/tap some mounts? Go ahead. Want a spiffy new Troy rail for that M4? Denied, not authorized! - Tradition = trading effectiveness for nostalgia. The USMC didn't want the M1 Garand either due to tradition. 03's were soooo reliable and darn those lazy kids and their fancy smanzy semi-auto M1's.
Love your reviews and i love the 1911. sadly this is out of my price range but my rock island armory tactical 5" .45 does the job just fine and has for over 7,000 rounds fired and many 3 guns it was used in. Thank you again for an amazing review.
Cool love it I have to find me one!. And I carried a Singer 1911 when I was station at Marine Barracks keflavik Iceland. It still shot wonderfully and that was in 1987, I just wished that I could have kept it.
I'm a marine corps armorer (MOS 2111) I was still learning my MOS at the schoolhouse when these showed up to the armory I was one of the first marines to get to handle them as we unpacked them.
The only time I ever really use them is when I fly. I like to be extra sure that the TSA won't say anything. So I put a chamber lock on it as well as putting it in the Box.
Man almost a decade later I'm discovering this piece of art. I need one. Just picked up the fnx 45 tactical with rmr in fde, a beretta m9a3 in fde, and this would really complete my fde pistol fetish
The Corps prefers them as they claim they're more reliable. In my own testing of Wilson mags (which I use a lot of), I've found the 8 rounders to be very reliable, certainly as reliable as the 7 rounders.
Gorgeous 1911, it's a tried and true design and always will be, I'd love to have one. That being said I believe as far as the military goes in general they should have gone with the FN FNX-45 tactical. Larger capacity, lighter, and a lot less expensive. But I definitely wouldn't complain about this 1911 being my sidearm. Awesome review Tim!
Indeed sir, u should be proud to be a part of that brotherhood. I come from a familly of WWII And Vietnam veterans and I myself am in law enforcement so I have a deep understanding, respect, and gratitude for those who've served. Thanks again and Keep the vids coming.
I am a U.S. Marine.. that is me in the picture back in 04 flying into Al Quaim, with 1st LAR. My Twin brother is a Marine also. He served with 3/5 and 1/5 scout snipers. And deployed with 1/5 to Irag. We both know for a fact that some Springfield MC Operators made it into MARSOC armories as actual USMC service issue pistols, next to their Quantico built counter parts.. We know this because my brother has a friend, that was a former MARSOC Operator, who accused my brother of stealing one, after he seen my brother's MC Operator!!! After talking him down and then proving to him that I had bought it for him as a present... and that his actual pistol was still in the cage, he ( not a gun geek like my brother and I ) never knew the pistol was offered to the public; where 99% of them were sold. PLEASE compare the Springfield Armory "MC operator( with Packmayer grips ) to your M45A1. I would love to see how it stacks up. PS food for thought.. the MC Operator was the very first pistol to ever be sold to the public with a rail. Thank you MY MARINE Brother. Have a happy 4th.
It cracks me up, youtube commandos telling veterans what is or is not a better tool to go to war with. A 1911 saved my life every time I needed it. I cannot say how they work in a sandbox, but they run okay fine in a jungle. Hooah at you, baby. Or to translate for the Marines out there, Oorah!
You do realize that just because you served in the military it doesn't make you an expert on all the firearm alternatives available in the marketplace that you've neither been serviced or trained with right? maybe you should listen to some of these youtube commandos who have more knowledge of firearms than you just as they ought to listen to you about combat advice if they ever needed it.
@@hk4lyfe59 you just can't seem to understand the military grabs a "select" group of folks....IE those that are firearms enthusiasts. You're making assumptions about all military personnel. Assuming they only have knowledge about what they use. Have you ever heard of the saying "when you make an assumption, you make an ass out of you and umption"?
@@smyers820gm "you just can't seem to understand the military grabs a "select" group of folks....IE those that are firearms enthusiasts. You're making assumptions about all military personnel. Assuming they only have knowledge about what they use. Have you ever heard of the saying "when you make an assumption, you make an ass out of you and umption"?" Did you actually read my comment? I didn't say all military people don't know firearms, there's plenty of vets who are also into learning about different types, I said that simply being in the military doesn't make you an expert. Your comment is true, but you should actually try to understand what I type before you critique it.
@@hk4lyfe59 ok fair enough..im sure if you look long and hard enough youll find someone in the air force fixing type writers but doesnt know anything about guns. Id also like to point out 99 percent of these type videos are or were former military and those that arent are emulating military training. They didn't wake up wonder warriors..fair enough?
Former Marine means no longer active duty. What you won't hear Marines say is "ex-Marine". www.military.com/marine-corps-birthday/marine-birthday-no-exmarines.html
+Military Arms Channel great video. liked and subscribed. Thank you for your service to our country and thank you for the time and effort committed to your RUclips channel.
+Anthony Maske Bearing in mind I have never served in the military but after talking with loads of former servicemen and women, it stems from the phrases, "Once a Marine, Always a Marine." By saying "ex" it signifies that you are no longer that title/person/thing and for people who have earned the title they will hang onto it until the day they die, hence why they say former Marine.
very good, now let's take a look at how Pvt Webster defines "former" having been previously : onetime www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/former becoming a Marine is much more than signing a contract with an expiration date, its a transformation, hence "Once A Marine Always A Marine". just because the contract expires doesn't mean you are now a "former" Marine. Marines never stop being Marines, whether on a contract or not. This very thing is what separates Marines from all others. Since you've never served I don't expect you to understand this. Semper Fi...
1911's are the most comfortable pistol to my hand. I'd shot Kahr's, Beretta's, Sig's, Springfield XDm's and various revolvers. The 1911 grip just seems the most ergonomic for me.
1911 has amazing service record, it is reliable and Its nice to see marines still using a variant of it but the design does seem dated, I don't see the benefit over something like the P226 that the seals use with double stack magazine and a de-cocker imo. 9mm v 45 acp is debatable I enjoy both! anyone share your thoughts
Max Spoon I like both rounds as well, but the military is restricted in some cases in using hollowpoint ammo, so they mostly use FMJs. .45 FMJ works well, because it's a fat, slow moving round. Unlike 9mm FMJ, which is small and fast moving and has a tendency to over-penetrate. The 1911 was chosen because the Marines are VERY big on tradition. But only MARSOC is being issued a few of these, so it's not a huge deal.
+Max Spoon I agree im not sure why the marines want it. I would rather carry the current m9 service pistol. The 1911 is probably one of my favorite guns of all time but I would not take it into battle. I want as many bullets in my magazine as possible and I would prefer 9mm for a war scenario more bullets in a clip, more controllable, and more penetration.
Vox Nihili The only real problem with the M9 Beretta is that it gets dirty as fuck, and with the quickness. Don't get me wrong, it's the most accurate handgun I've ever fired, just in front of the 1911, but one roll in the sand or mud and that thing gets dirtier than a San Franciscan whore during Fleet Week. Older M4/M16 models get less dirty, even when doing prone grenade throwing drills in a pile of mud intentionally made for you by the gunny in the middle of Lejeune winter because he's such a wonderful gentleman--that's saying something.
+Max Spoon may i but-in. To me whatever caliber you use- .22, .25, 38 or 9mm, etc, as long that it hit the T-factor or the desired shot placement especially the center mass, throat and forehead will make the bullet effective. It is only when the hit is outside the T-factor or the desired shot placement that caliber counts. If you hit the legs with a .22 or 9mm it may be just impart an injury which will not cause immediate distabilization on the target because of the wound imparted by the smaller caliber. A small caliber causes small wound even if this are special bullets. A bigger caliber causes bigger wounds and so it may impart bigger tissue damage on the target and waht aboutb the impact of a bigger mass(of a bullet like a .45 caliber). The bigger the bullet, the bigger the hole- the bigger the tissue damage.
Tom's a good man. Don't know if you realize but he's been making custom holsters for a while now. They are really nice leather holsters. I had him make me a couple and they're actually the best holsters I own. Good video and very nice gun.
Hey MAC, i love that when you show something on screen and talk about it, you wait 1-2 seconds, not saying anything but keeping enough times for the viewers to actuall SEE what you're talking about. Granted, we love to hear you talk, but you do it correctly :)
Frank Napolitano Good Question. The reason there is no double stack magazine for the 1911 is because the 45. caliber is to large of a round to be double stacked and still fit in the magazine well of a 1911. Pistols with double stack magazines such as the Beretta M9, and the Glock 19 can do this because the round they fire (9mm) is much smaller. These pistols and many more (not all pistols) use double stack magazines as a way to compensate for having a smaller caliber (less stopping power). Its really all about what one wants out of the pistol. In short the 1911s capacity isn't going above 8 rounds, but if one wanted a higher capacity they can either, use an extended magazine or look for a different pistol. The only way the 1911 could have a higher capacity, not use an extended magazine, and still use the 45. caliber round, would require the frame to be widened. Such a modification would make the pistol hard to hold on to as the grip would be to wide, and make the already heavy pistol even heavier with the addition of rounds, and metal. What springs to mind is the double 1911, which is basically two 1911s welded together. (This response doesn't reflect my personal beliefs or opinions, I'm simply giving an educated answer to a question Ive heard many times).
AGENT LOCKE That's not entirely accurate. There are double stack .45s, even double stack 1911s out there that are not ridiculously hard to hold on to or anything like that. The main problem is proprietariness, a noun I apparently just made up because my computer is telling me it's spelled wrong, that is defined as "the state of being proprietary". Para ordnance and a few other companies make double stack 1911s, but the problem is they are generally proprietary in parts and magazines to the company that made them and are not the most reliable things in the world. The standard 1911 has much support from the industry and cheap replacement parts are more easily found and more reliable, particularly with magazines (which are the biggest factor in reliability). Double stacks would be much more expensive than is practical for military use in order to be acceptably reliable. This gun being hand fitted in order to be reliable is expensive enough being something along the lines of $2000.
David Horgan why would you want to refire a catridge with a shitty primer. i would rather just rack the slide and chamber a new round. the only reason this firearm is even being used in militaries today is because of lobbying, politics and outdated requirements for a "combat" pistol. even if you went with a hammer gun, the FN .45 is lightyears beyond this firearm.
Why not the fnp .45 . Twice the rounds for a third the price. Im sure the military pay a diffrent rate but there cant be that much diffrent from that modle. Also if a pistol is only supposed to be pulled as a last resourt the diffrens between a two and one inch group dosent matter as the enemy is almost on top of you. Dont get me wrong i still like the 1911 but its simply out classed.
scrooglemcdoogle A sidearm is rarely if ever used in combat and you only need 3 or 4 rounds to stop a threat. More capacity means nothing if it's not accurate.
Alex K. You can't double stack the .45 ACP caliber in a 1911 Frame, It doesn't have that room. Pistols with larger frames or smaller calibers allow for double stacking, but a relatively thin magazine well on a 1911 chambered in .45 ACP doesn't allow for that. To get a double stacked 1911, you'll need to drop the caliber or make the magazine well larger. And if you have to fight with your handgun, that is practically the WORST case scenario possible. Your sidearm is for fighting so you can get to your primary.
CAepicreviews I don't normally like to correct people on the internet but you are wrong. There are numerous manufacturers that make double stack 1911's that aren't unwieldy to hold. Para Ordnance is one of them. They have slightly thicker grip to accommodate the larger magazine.
TacticalDesire In the 1911 frame, when chambered for .45 ACP, there is not enough room to do so. Para making the frame larger doesn't make it the same frame.
CAepicreviews No but it is still the 1911 platform. It's like a Glock 17 and a Glock 43. One is single stack and one is double but they are both Glocks.
Jeremiah J lol I love to shoot. id shoot every day if it was not for my whiny neighbors. but now days we have all the ability a 1911 could have but with twice the shots
***** yeah, or you get the best of both worlds with a double stack 1911 like from Para USA or RRA. Then you get 14 rounds of .45 in the reliable 1911 design
Great review - I found a leather holster for an M45A1 at the holster shop, St. Cloud, FL - great shop the holsters are hard leather - once you perform the break in, per their instructions, the pistol fits perfectly - I have purchased a number of holsters from their shop all work perfectly. This is my pride pistol - wish I had this pistol when I was in the Marine Corps but the 45s I shot in the Corps were still perfect - great pistol - great review - Semper Fi !
Lol of course not. For that I have my 22/45. And if you need 15-16 rounds to hit a target, then you shouldn't be operating a firearm. At that miss-to-hit ratio, you're more of a danger to bystanders. And let's be honest, how many people are going to be able physically to put up a fight after even 2 body hits from a .45ACP.
Wow, can you sound any more ignorant? First of all in a combat scenario ammo count is VITAL. Ask anyone who has had to defend themselves complaining about having too much ammo. I'll save you some time you won't. Secondly having more rounds doesn't mean shooting recklessly. It just means you can stay in the fight longer if necessary. Thirdly, ballistic ally speaking there really isn't all that much difference between 9mm or .45ACP, especially when you factor in hollow points. Neither is nearly the man stopped some (like you) seem to think. There have cases of people taking full blasts from shotguns to the chest and living long enough to take 10 more paces. Police officers have gotten killed thinking the way you do. You have a bit to learn. I need a nap. Your ignorance is exhausting.
luvfreedom So right you are...You will find many keyboard commandoes that are experts her on Y.T. that's never had a shot fired at them in anger,,,,or have never been in anything resembling a gunfight at all...There preconceived notions are based within Hollywood movies....
+philosophersphone No Sir, that's the sound of money well spent. America's finest deserve the finest weapons to defend their lives while they defend our country. I'm proud knowing that my tax dollars are spent on things such as this pistol. Now the average salary of jerk off politicians who give themselves annual raises while they sign off on bills that erode our Second Amendment is money flushed down the toilet! I say give every "political leader" who has ever supported "gun control" bills a severe pay cut and spend the saved money on more weapons for our troops.
+Eric Warner Spend the money on weapons that are actually an improvement, and it might be justified. I say this as a soldier who fully supports money going to the design of arms for my comrades: I physically recoiled in horror and disgust when I saw the figure of $1,999 on the screen. No 1911 is worth that. Not unless it's this improved version hand signed by both John Browning and Col. Samuel Colt. Since neither man is around to do so, I'd expect to see at least a pair of CZ 75s in that box as well.
+philosophersphone No doubt. Even a .45ACP in a polymer would have done the job in at 7 yards. I laugh at the idiot who thinks you need a sidearm that weighs 40 ounces (in any caliber) in a modern combat situation to get the job done. The design for the 1911 is so outdated for modern miltary use it's a joke. even The Beretta 92 Series needs dumped as well.
Correction sir, not FORMER marine, you ARE a marine! Once a marine, ALWAYS a marine. Thank you for your service. Love your videos and love this pistol, I wish I could afford one!
Let's see $150 case, $50 cleaning kit, $60 in mags, $200 cerakote finish, $120+ g10 grip panels, $200 Novak sights, price of stainless steel is more than aluminum. Seems like a steal at 1900 to me
I separated in late 03’; my 1911 had a Springfield slide, barsto barrel and a Remington lower. It was great for DA. We went with this overpriced 1911 because a general left the corps and took a high ranking position with colt. Hello contract. We should have gone with Glocks for many reasons, number one being cost. We have low budgets, why waste it on pistols that require lots of attention. Another retarded decision just like the one to pass on the fn fal and turn the m1 into the m14. I love my TRP, but if someone placed that next to a g17 on a table and said “ you're getting in a gunfight today, choose one”.
I found one for 2300 bucks (Lightly used, perfect condition) yesterday, and after hearing they were so rare, I had to get it, as I'm a fmr Marine myself. I'm jealous Travis Haley didn't shoot my first 7 rds, but someday I'll take a class from him lol Great review, Tim!
I'm probably missing something... but $2000 ($3800 for the ones on Gunbroker) for this pistol just seems overpriced. Hell, I didn't even pay that much for my Series 80 Gold Cup.
The magazines it comes with are $60 each, the case is another $200, that stupid cleaning kit costs $50. Now slap a Colt logo on everything and brand it with USMC and the price just went up another $500. That leaves us to believe that under any normal conditions this pistol should sell in the $1200 range, where it should be.
He paid $1200 for his Gold Cup. I know I've got one. Add those things to it you said plus the rail, paint/ powder coat, grips, and the sights and you've got a $2000 gun. Don't like it don't pay it. I love my Colts
IT'S FUNNY YIU SAID I WAS THINKING THE SAME EXACT THING, HOWEVER, IT WILL NOT BE THIS MODEL USMC COLT. IT'S BASICALLY COMES DOWN TO WHAT YOU REALLY WANT AND THIS "MAY" BECOME A COLLECTOR'S ITEM ONE DAY, AS THE WILSON WON'T.
The magazine capacity of 7 rounds, is designed for a modern military pistol, too little, even if it is a 45 caliber. There are 1911 pistols, which have a 14 round magazine, Colt should have gone exactly the same way with the new gun for the MC.
As much as I like the 1911 it's simply outdated. I can't believe the Marines seriously dropped 2k on a single stack handgun that holds a lousy 7 rounds in the mag plus one in the chamber. Why not a double stack 40 or 45? Heck why not get an XD mod 2 .45 and call It a day?
Panzer D 9mm? I was never talking about 9mm. I was talking about why out of all the 45 options they decided to go with the ancient 1911 that holds a lousy 7 rounds plus 1. when there are other 45 options for example like the XD mod 2 in 45.or how about fnx 45? There are simply better options the Marines could have selected.
+Fabian Taveras Your assumption is that newer and plastic are somehow better than older and steel. I would disagree. Many of john Browning,s (Old) designs are still being used to this day. Though not a browning design, the AK-47 is outdated but is still the standard bearer of assault Rifles. The M14 or M1a is an old design but is still in use today as well as the High Power 9mm and M2 50cal. As a former Marine I can tell you that hitting what your aiming at with the first round is something the Marine Corps takes very serious and it's all about the training. But I understand your curiosity there are a lot of nice pistols to choose from being made these days. I guess they had their reasons.
+Panzer D I'm just not seeing the justification for a single stack 45 Now a days that's just limiting. I would love to hear the Marines reasoning on why they settled spending $2,000 on a single stack hand gun.
Thanks Tim. I had to go back and look for a fave RUclips video for this gun. So many polymer fan boys hate on the 1911. I think they are classy and I’m a fan of them. I’d like to have that one or one of the original decommissioned military units.
7 yards is the most effective distance to train at. Semi auto handguns are by no means a long range firearm. In military, law enforcement, and even civilian use, handguns are used at very close distances. Think spitting distance close. Grouping a pistol at 7 yards is totally acceptable.
Hey Tim, I'm a retired marine myself and your absolutely right, every marine should have one in their collection! when I first came in that is what we used with steel pots on our grapes! I love that the USMC is going back to the 45! I guess somebody got smart at CMC!!
IF you were serving. My older brother who served 8 years in the USMC and not only was a shooting instructor at Pendleton but was also on the USMC shooting team, expert with the pistol and won several competitions with the 1911 (kimber custom II), Berretta m9, and Luger 9mm. Of all of them the match grade 1911 was the favorite pistol to shoot and most wins pistol they had. Before you judge like this make sure you're experience extends further than Call of Duty black ops multiplayer.
I would like to get my hands on one. I tried a couple years ago, and after waiting almost 9 months with promises my rifle would ship "next week" for about 5 of those 9 months, I canceled my order and spent the money on something else. If I could get one in a reasonable amount of time, I would be glad to pick one up.
I carried a WW 2 1911 45 while deer hunting in Maine as there was bears about. They are so heavy to haul around all day so the next day I left the pistol behind. I like the 1911 45.
I ended up going with the Sig Sauer 1911 Scorpion Carry model. It's Cerakoted in fde and has wonderful Hogue G-10 Pirahna grips. Also came with Sig night sights. So far after 500 rounds I absolutely love the gun!! No issues at all. I paid $1049 for it at my local gun store. Just another great option for anyone in the market for a Cerakoted FDE 1911. Great video and sweet Colt 1911 ! ✌
Keep in mind that some 30+ companies make 1911's and most of them do a poor job. The 1911 historically has been known as a very reliable and accurate handgun which is why MARSOC, Delta, LA SWAT, SIS, FBI HRT, and other top tier groups continue to use them. Not all 1911's are made from MIM parts hastily put together by unskilled labor (Kimber) then stamped with "Custom Shop" as a marketing trick. 1911's are pricey to produce properly (hand fitting) but that doesn't make them bad - just expensive.
I have a "big name" 1911 that has still required some "goings over" by my local gunsmith/gunwizard. I have a second 1911 from a less expensive name that, while looser fitting, has been far more reliable. But it uses quality parts through and through. However, from the factory, it isn't what I wanted, so it, too, needs some extra love from a gun wizard. Like MAC says, a 1911 requires good care and proper fitting. When they have the right fitting and care, they're reliable. But they're not cheap.
My wife has a Kimber 1911 in 9 mm, that cost $600 (sale price). It has the tightest tolerances of any semi-auto we own (including her Remington 1911 R1 Enhanced, and my SA Trophy Match 1911, both in .45 caliber). If you look at the back end of the slide, the fit to the frame and around the extractor and ejector looks to be microscopic. It also shoots an incredible group. It's not my favorite semi-auto by any means (I actually like the two .45s better), but I have no complaints about the Kimber.
fossil gamer What year is her Kimber? The pre-2000 45ACP models are were made well though after that they fell in quality in my experience. No experience with the 9mm versions.
Kimber only use’s MIM parts where it don’t matter
I have a 1911 made by Tisas and the quality is up there with a $1000+ custom made 1911
Former meaning I no longer draw a check from Uncle Sugar and I don't wear the uniform. Yes, I am a Marine at heart and will always be. I rate the EGA, however I choose to no longer wear it. I honor the heritage of my beloved Corps through the use of our colors in the logo for MAC.
“The 1911. The pistol that forgot to be obsolete”
-Ahoy
*-Stuart Brown.
Stuart Brown.
"forgot it's obsolete"
FTFY.
Antique.
Veteran.
Patriot.
Ahem
Actually, the Marines have been using the 1911 for decades. The MEU(SOC) preceded this pistol and this pistol, the MARSOC, is in fact issued to those who actually do the fighting -- because they requested it. MARSOC isn't a bunch of pencil pushers, they're front line warriors.
Not just MARSOC Marines but those crazy squids that follow them around to patch up the boo boos bleeders, as we say.
Ethan Douglas SARC’s
And then people like you who just buy em🤷🏻♂️
I love how humble Travis Haley is... In the online gun community that is often dominated by pompous jerks, it's really refreshing to see that from not only someone who is widely and deservedly respected for his knowledge and expertise (and he has a lot of it), but from someone who has put his life on the line for this great country of ours... To couple that with another great and humble member of the community in Tim, wow, kudos to you sir for giving a Recon Marine the honor of the first few rounds!
I'm not sure "humble" is the word I would use to describe Travis. I love the guy, don't get me wrong, but he has some arrogant aspects to his personality, and at times has demonstrated that he has a bit of a fragile ego. Regardless, none of that would stop me from paying for classes, or going to him for advice. In fact, the special forces tends to attract "arrogant" people, for similar reasons that fighter pilots, or the elite of any fields(particularly business) tends to attract these types of people(or perhaps I should say why these personality types tend to succeed in such situations/roles.)
Another great review Tim. Now I MUST have one.
OORAH! 1973-1976
I now have the NEED for one of these. When I was in the Corps, the 1911's we carried were worn out. They were shot to pieces. I have never owned a Colt but......I think I just found the ONE I have to have!
Thanks for the professional, courteous review.
God Bless!
Semper Fi!
Using a .45 to split a playing card? Really MAC??? At least make it challenging for yourself. Try it from 1 mile, from the hip. I have faith in you.
111 years and still going strong, All Hail The 1911 and thank you Mr. Browning for this wonderous invention, RIP.
That means there's a lot of greedy people out there... Baer, Brown, Wilson, Nighthawk, Fusion, Dan Wesson, etc. Actually, the cost of producing a hand-fit 1911 is substantial. The margins are no different than on lower cost guns, they're just more expensive to produce.
Semper Fi, and great video! I learned to shoot the 1911 at Camp Lejuene in the early '80s and have been in love ever since.
Letting Travis Haley break that bad boy in just increased the resale value...however...something tells me that you'll never sell this.
You're right, I never will. :)
Military Arms Channel Does this have a flat fire pin stop? You ever find out how many lbs the recoil spring is rated at?
+Military Arms Channel
Hey Tim I found one for $1499 at a gun shop. Should I pick it up?
+Military Arms Channel
Why do you think that the Marine Corp gets better guns than the Army? Is it because the 'Corp' is a lot smaller and therefore they can spend the money on new pistols and grenade launchers? I'm an Army combat veteran myself and it pisses me off on what the Army is doing to its troops in terms of new weapons or there lack of.
+Okie Rider the only units in the Marine Corps that use the M45A1 to my knowledge are the Recon Battalions. MARSOC recently transition to the Glock 19's and the rest of the Corps are still issued the M9's
I'm just going to leave this here for anyone who is asking questions about why and how.
-What merits do steel frames have over polymer? Steel frames, while heavier, have been shown to hold better with continued use wear. They also, due to their weight, allow for softer recoil (the mass absorbs some of the kick) and as such, better weapon handling in inexperienced people. They also have the "First shot on Target" rule going for them. A rule developed in the time of dueling, heavier weapons hold the barrel down more keeping the first shot on target rather than flying high. Polymer guns are more comfortable for extended carry due to being lighter and are "faster" to handle, they are also usually cheaper.
- Is the recoil better on this than other 1911's? Very likely due to the double spring.
- Capacity is dependent on the manufacturer, I have seen 1911 models that have 10 rounds and over. But a "True" `1911 holds 7 in the magazine and one in the chamber of .45.
- Why did the marines choose this? A few of reasons. One is the caliber, the .45 has authority and presence and knockdown power that the 9mm only dreams of outside of rare loads. Second is service history, the 1911 has a very well proven history and is STILL used today in personal use and some units. The only two other weapons in the US arsenal with that kind of history are the M1 Garand variants (M14 and M14 EMR are variants of the original system) and the AR variants. Difference being the 1911 is still essentially the exact same weapon it always has been. Finally Tradition. The Marine Corps is very big on symbols and traditions. The 1911 is American designed and manufactured and is recognized worldwide as the quintessential American Handgun. As we were trying to grab Lugers in WW2, the Germans were trying to grab 1911's. The 1911 symbolizes American Pride, Longevity and History.
135Fenrir Well said, but the normal full size capacity is 7 rounds.
David Horgan You sir are correct, fixed, edited and thank you. Must not have checked my typos, lol.
all terrible reasons to adopt this handgun. basically, blah blah nostalgia
- Steel frames wear out slower but cost 3x-4x as much. This is not a benefit especially since the wear and tear differences are not that great.
- First shot on target can be manipulated in many ways. Using weight is the worst for a person who has to carry their support gear on their backs.
- Double springs are not exclusive to steel frames nor 1911's. That's actually a common thing especially aftermarket.
- 10rd+ 1911's are due to aftermarket magazines which are not reliable. Double stacks have been attempted with some success. But this gun isn't one of them.
- .45ACP hard ball ammo has very little advantage over 9mm. Knockdown power is a myth from the 90's. Ball ammo is less than 1mm thicker than a 9mm and does not expand. If someone says "energy transfer" and believes it then they should test this on their heads.
- The 1911 is almost exclusive to USMC units. Nostalgia is about all I can think of as to why. You use a pistol to fight to get to your rifle. You don't do much fighting with 7rds. This isn't WW1
- The M14 stayed in service because it was in inventories and easier to get. There is a reason why they're replacing them completely with the m110. At the start of the wars it was easier to get and M14 than try to authorization to build a SAM-R order MK12 or SR-25. With no maintenance coverage you could pretty much do what you wanted to the things and no one would care. Want to chop the barrel on that M14 and drill/tap some mounts? Go ahead. Want a spiffy new Troy rail for that M4? Denied, not authorized!
- Tradition = trading effectiveness for nostalgia. The USMC didn't want the M1 Garand either due to tradition. 03's were soooo reliable and darn those lazy kids and their fancy smanzy semi-auto M1's.
1911's are great at the range or home defense, but why someone would want to tote around a 2.5lb gun all day is beyond me.
Got a 45 Rock Island with over 5.000 shots and no problems.
Much more reliable than my Gold Cup.
Love your reviews and i love the 1911. sadly this is out of my price range but my rock island armory tactical 5" .45 does the job just fine and has for over 7,000 rounds fired and many 3 guns it was used in.
Thank you again for an amazing review.
Cool love it I have to find me one!. And I carried a Singer 1911 when I was station at Marine Barracks keflavik Iceland. It still shot wonderfully and that was in 1987, I just wished that I could have kept it.
I'm a marine corps armorer (MOS 2111) I was still learning my MOS at the schoolhouse when these showed up to the armory I was one of the first marines to get to handle them as we unpacked them.
Does anybody ever actually use the locks? I just have a pile of them in my house lol.
I have a gun bag just for locks now...
I use em on my rod holders to lock my rods down haha. I have an endless supply between me my family and friends
Jackson Davis I have a shoebox full of them
My 1911 never even came with one ha
The only time I ever really use them is when I fly. I like to be extra sure that the TSA won't say anything. So I put a chamber lock on it as well as putting it in the Box.
Man almost a decade later I'm discovering this piece of art. I need one. Just picked up the fnx 45 tactical with rmr in fde, a beretta m9a3 in fde, and this would really complete my fde pistol fetish
This was the first MAC video I ever watched. I still think it's the best video quality wise to this day.
The Corps prefers them as they claim they're more reliable. In my own testing of Wilson mags (which I use a lot of), I've found the 8 rounders to be very reliable, certainly as reliable as the 7 rounders.
Gorgeous 1911, it's a tried and true design and always will be, I'd love to have one. That being said I believe as far as the military goes in general they should have gone with the FN FNX-45 tactical. Larger capacity, lighter, and a lot less expensive. But I definitely wouldn't complain about this 1911 being my sidearm. Awesome review Tim!
I got both they both nice
This gun just makes me want to give myself a tactical vickers
Funnily enough Vickers did actually make a custom M1911 based pistol for a videogame back in 2012
Indeed sir, u should be proud to be a part of that brotherhood. I come from a familly of WWII And Vietnam veterans and I myself am in law enforcement so I have a deep understanding, respect, and gratitude for those who've served. Thanks again and Keep the vids coming.
Watching in 2018 and, can I just say, this video is every bit as high-quality as your newer videos.
I'm impressed.
I am a U.S. Marine.. that is me in the picture back in 04 flying into Al Quaim, with 1st LAR. My Twin brother is a Marine also. He served with 3/5 and 1/5 scout snipers. And deployed with 1/5 to Irag. We both know for a fact that some Springfield MC Operators made it into MARSOC armories as actual USMC service issue pistols, next to their Quantico built counter parts.. We know this because my brother has a friend, that was a former MARSOC Operator, who accused my brother of stealing one, after he seen my brother's MC Operator!!! After talking him down and then proving to him that I had bought it for him as a present... and that his actual pistol was still in the cage, he ( not a gun geek like my brother and I ) never knew the pistol was offered to the public; where 99% of them were sold. PLEASE compare the Springfield Armory "MC operator( with Packmayer grips ) to your M45A1. I would love to see how it stacks up. PS food for thought.. the MC Operator was the very first pistol to ever be sold to the public with a rail. Thank you MY MARINE Brother. Have a happy 4th.
Thanks for your service man. Nice picture.
I received my Kimber Desert Warrior as a gift when I returned home from Iraq. How does the Colt EGA match up to the Marine Corps’ Kimber?
It cracks me up, youtube commandos telling veterans what is or is not a better tool to go to war with. A 1911 saved my life every time I needed it. I cannot say how they work in a sandbox, but they run okay fine in a jungle. Hooah at you, baby. Or to translate for the Marines out there, Oorah!
You do realize that just because you served in the military it doesn't make you an expert on all the firearm alternatives available in the marketplace that you've neither been serviced or trained with right? maybe you should listen to some of these youtube commandos who have more knowledge of firearms than you just as they ought to listen to you about combat advice if they ever needed it.
@@hk4lyfe59 you just can't seem to understand the military grabs a "select" group of folks....IE those that are firearms enthusiasts. You're making assumptions about all military personnel. Assuming they only have knowledge about what they use. Have you ever heard of the saying "when you make an assumption, you make an ass out of you and umption"?
@@smyers820gm "you just can't seem to understand the military grabs a "select" group of folks....IE those that are firearms enthusiasts. You're making assumptions about all military personnel. Assuming they only have knowledge about what they use. Have you ever heard of the saying "when you make an assumption, you make an ass out of you and umption"?"
Did you actually read my comment? I didn't say all military people don't know firearms, there's plenty of vets who are also into learning about different types, I said that simply being in the military doesn't make you an expert. Your comment is true, but you should actually try to understand what I type before you critique it.
@@hk4lyfe59 ok fair enough..im sure if you look long and hard enough youll find someone in the air force fixing type writers but doesnt know anything about guns. Id also like to point out 99 percent of these type videos are or were former military and those that arent are emulating military training. They didn't wake up wonder warriors..fair enough?
smyers820gm motherfuckers are using typewriters?! Shit, we are in the 1940s y’all! 😂😂😂
That was very classy letting Travis shoot the first shots.
Thank you! I had heard of the Wilson Combat CQB 1911 and now this CQBP. It all makes sense now.
Former Marine? Never heard of one of those. ;^)
Former Marine means no longer active duty. What you won't hear Marines say is "ex-Marine".
www.military.com/marine-corps-birthday/marine-birthday-no-exmarines.html
+Military Arms Channel so now whats the difference between "former" and "ex-"? preference .... Marine Veteran ...
Semper Fi ...
+Military Arms Channel great video. liked and subscribed. Thank you for your service to our country and thank you for the time and effort committed to your RUclips channel.
+Anthony Maske Bearing in mind I have never served in the military but after talking with loads of former servicemen and women, it stems from the phrases, "Once a Marine, Always a Marine." By saying "ex" it signifies that you are no longer that title/person/thing and for people who have earned the title they will hang onto it until the day they die, hence why they say former Marine.
very good, now let's take a look at how Pvt Webster defines "former"
having been previously : onetime
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/former
becoming a Marine is much more than signing a contract with an expiration
date, its a transformation, hence "Once A Marine Always A Marine". just
because the contract expires doesn't mean you are now a "former" Marine.
Marines never stop being Marines, whether on a contract or not. This very
thing is what separates Marines from all others.
Since you've never served I don't expect you to understand this.
Semper Fi...
1911's are the most comfortable pistol to my hand. I'd shot Kahr's, Beretta's, Sig's, Springfield XDm's and various revolvers. The 1911 grip just seems the most ergonomic for me.
You let a Marine shoot it first. How thoughtful.
He is a marine
Great video MAC - Nice job by your camera man too. Keep em' coming - Semper !
1911's are awesome but I love the simplicity of my Glock as far as field stripping and maintenance goes.
That gun is damn sexy!!!
Agreed
Indeed.
Except for the finish. Puke
Eh the finish is ok.
Allante715 Good thing the finish was designed for grunts in combat instead of civilian sheep dogs.
Yeah the pistol of the man,how can anybody not like it?
1911 has amazing service record, it is reliable and Its nice to see marines still using a variant of it but the design does seem dated, I don't see the benefit over something like the P226 that the seals use with double stack magazine and a de-cocker imo. 9mm v 45 acp is debatable I enjoy both! anyone share your thoughts
Max Spoon I like both rounds as well, but the military is restricted in some cases in using hollowpoint ammo, so they mostly use FMJs. .45 FMJ works well, because it's a fat, slow moving round. Unlike 9mm FMJ, which is small and fast moving and has a tendency to over-penetrate. The 1911 was chosen because the Marines are VERY big on tradition. But only MARSOC is being issued a few of these, so it's not a huge deal.
+rambokicksass77 Regular units can get them issued if they make a request for them.
+Max Spoon I agree im not sure why the marines want it. I would rather carry the current m9 service pistol. The 1911 is probably one of my favorite guns of all time but I would not take it into battle. I want as many bullets in my magazine as possible and I would prefer 9mm for a war scenario more bullets in a clip, more controllable, and more penetration.
Vox Nihili The only real problem with the M9 Beretta is that it gets dirty as fuck, and with the quickness.
Don't get me wrong, it's the most accurate handgun I've ever fired, just in front of the 1911, but one roll in the sand or mud and that thing gets dirtier than a San Franciscan whore during Fleet Week.
Older M4/M16 models get less dirty, even when doing prone grenade throwing drills in a pile of mud intentionally made for you by the gunny in the middle of Lejeune winter because he's such a wonderful gentleman--that's saying something.
+Max Spoon may i but-in. To me whatever caliber you use- .22, .25, 38 or 9mm, etc, as long that it hit the T-factor or the desired shot placement especially the center mass, throat and forehead will make the bullet effective. It is only when the hit is outside the T-factor or the desired shot placement that caliber counts. If you hit the legs with a .22 or 9mm it may be just impart an injury which will not cause immediate distabilization on the target because of the wound imparted by the smaller caliber. A small caliber causes small wound even if this are special bullets. A bigger caliber causes bigger wounds and so it may impart bigger tissue damage on the target and waht aboutb the impact of a bigger mass(of a bullet like a .45 caliber). The bigger the bullet, the bigger the hole- the bigger the tissue damage.
Tom's a good man. Don't know if you realize but he's been making custom holsters for a while now. They are really nice leather holsters. I had him make me a couple and they're actually the best holsters I own. Good video and very nice gun.
Hey MAC, i love that when you show something on screen and talk about it, you wait 1-2 seconds, not saying anything but keeping enough times for the viewers to actuall SEE what you're talking about.
Granted, we love to hear you talk, but you do it correctly :)
So how much kickback from Colt is the POG supply general/ and congressmen that signed off on this getting?
like your jacket what brand is it and where can I get one
5.11 HAS THAT DESIGN AS WELL.
Tim, I'm curious as to why the USMC did not ask Colt for a double stack 14+1 1911 ?
Frank Napolitano Good Question. The reason there is no double stack magazine for the 1911 is because the 45. caliber is to large of a round to be double stacked and still fit in the magazine well of a 1911. Pistols with double stack magazines such as the Beretta M9, and the Glock 19 can do this because the round they fire (9mm) is much smaller. These pistols and many more (not all pistols) use double stack magazines as a way to compensate for having a smaller caliber (less stopping power). Its really all about what one wants out of the pistol. In short the 1911s capacity isn't going above 8 rounds, but if one wanted a higher capacity they can either, use an extended magazine or look for a different pistol. The only way the 1911 could have a higher capacity, not use an extended magazine, and still use the 45. caliber round, would require the frame to be widened. Such a modification would make the pistol hard to hold on to as the grip would be to wide, and make the already heavy pistol even heavier with the addition of rounds, and metal. What springs to mind is the double 1911, which is basically two 1911s welded together.
(This response doesn't reflect my personal beliefs or opinions, I'm simply giving an educated answer to a question Ive heard many times).
Agent Locke,...Thank you for you excellent answer !
Yes, I thought weight and ergonomics would be a factor in a double stack 1911
Thanks !
AGENT LOCKE Thank you....I got no answer from the Kentucky Colonel on this issue...:>)
AGENT LOCKE That's not entirely accurate. There are double stack .45s, even double stack 1911s out there that are not ridiculously hard to hold on to or anything like that. The main problem is proprietariness, a noun I apparently just made up because my computer is telling me it's spelled wrong, that is defined as "the state of being proprietary". Para ordnance and a few other companies make double stack 1911s, but the problem is they are generally proprietary in parts and magazines to the company that made them and are not the most reliable things in the world. The standard 1911 has much support from the industry and cheap replacement parts are more easily found and more reliable, particularly with magazines (which are the biggest factor in reliability). Double stacks would be much more expensive than is practical for military use in order to be acceptably reliable. This gun being hand fitted in order to be reliable is expensive enough being something along the lines of $2000.
Just came across this. It's still great! Obviously I'm a big fan if the 1911
John Browning was a genious. Colt 1911 greatest gun ever made.
Well old colts, new ones suck, not even made by Colt half the time, just stamped colts name. Reason I know, I worked for Colt
Why didn't the Marine Corp request for a double stack 45??
Because they would have followed the logical path and went with a 9mm instead.
Because they like to use antiquated technology
please, give us an update video. How's she holding up?
I think I would get a Sig Saur 1911 Scorpion over this.
I have a Sig 1911 Scorpion, and We have the Colt M45A1 at work. They pretty much look the same besides the capacity of the mag
I'm a beretta 92 guy but this is one of the most beautiful handguns I've ever seen
1911's are so iconic, A relative of mine owns a original WWII era Colt still functions properly and still has 2 mags from its day.
Nice firearm but way out of my budget. I can only dream of owning one.
IN 5 YEARS SINCE YOUR COMMENT, YOU COULD HAVE SAVED AND BOUGHT ONE.😂
Cant believe they would go back to a single action .
MARSOC never left the 1911 platform.
lex tomb The problem with single actions are?... You can still recock the hammer and refire on a finicky primer. Also the M9 is single/double action.
David Horgan why would you want to refire a catridge with a shitty primer. i would rather just rack the slide and chamber a new round. the only reason this firearm is even being used in militaries today is because of lobbying, politics and outdated requirements for a "combat" pistol. even if you went with a hammer gun, the FN .45 is lightyears beyond this firearm.
David Horgan The Video seemed like it was going to be standard issue.I see now it is just for Elite MARSOC.
that makes sense lets buy a handgun that is more than an m4
cory gall Everybody is in the business of ripping off the government. Why do you think a Barrett M107 costs $10,000+?
David Horgan That firearm is worth no where what they are asking for. There are so many other .50s that go for around 4K.
cory gall This gun will only be adopted by MARSOC units not general issue.
I love mine.....M45 marked. It’s a great shooter.
The pistol looks super tough the way the front of slide is blackened from the powder. Badass firearm.
Why not the fnp .45 . Twice the rounds for a third the price. Im sure the military pay a diffrent rate but there cant be that much diffrent from that modle. Also if a pistol is only supposed to be pulled as a last resourt the diffrens between a two and one inch group dosent matter as the enemy is almost on top of you. Dont get me wrong i still like the 1911 but its simply out classed.
Marines aren't the brightest individuals.
scrooglemcdoogle A sidearm is rarely if ever used in combat and you only need 3 or 4 rounds to stop a threat. More capacity means nothing if it's not accurate.
1911 will always be greater than a damn Belgian plastic gun
Single stack .45 as a sidearm. What is this, WWI?
Alex K. Yeah I am wondering why they didn't try to get a PARA-14.45 style 1911 for the extra rounds.
Alex K. You can't double stack the .45 ACP caliber in a 1911 Frame, It doesn't have that room. Pistols with larger frames or smaller calibers allow for double stacking, but a relatively thin magazine well on a 1911 chambered in .45 ACP doesn't allow for that.
To get a double stacked 1911, you'll need to drop the caliber or make the magazine well larger.
And if you have to fight with your handgun, that is practically the WORST case scenario possible. Your sidearm is for fighting so you can get to your primary.
CAepicreviews I don't normally like to correct people on the internet but you are wrong. There are numerous manufacturers that make double stack 1911's that aren't unwieldy to hold. Para Ordnance is one of them. They have slightly thicker grip to accommodate the larger magazine.
TacticalDesire In the 1911 frame, when chambered for .45 ACP, there is not enough room to do so. Para making the frame larger doesn't make it the same frame.
CAepicreviews No but it is still the 1911 platform. It's like a Glock 17 and a Glock 43. One is single stack and one is double but they are both Glocks.
Why the 1911? damn put the m1garand back into use while your at it -_-
Not much of a shooter are you. 1911's are great weapons, if not why do most SF teams still CHOOSE to use them. Proof is in the pudding.
Jeremiah J lol I love to shoot. id shoot every day if it was not for my whiny neighbors. but now days we have all the ability a 1911 could have but with twice the shots
***** yeah, or you get the best of both worlds with a double stack 1911 like from Para USA or RRA. Then you get 14 rounds of .45 in the reliable 1911 design
*****
....YES it was !
*****
Sure wish I had one in Iraq back in 2003, got stuck with the POS beretta.
1911, a legend! Nice vid. Thanks
Great review - I found a leather holster for an M45A1 at the holster shop, St. Cloud, FL - great shop the holsters are hard leather - once you perform the break in, per their instructions, the pistol fits perfectly - I have purchased a number of holsters from their shop all work perfectly. This is my pride pistol - wish I had this pistol when I was in the Marine Corps but the 45s I shot in the Corps were still perfect - great pistol - great review - Semper Fi !
FNX 45 tactical. Half the price, twice the fire power.
And not nearly as sexy
15 + 1 round capacity sounds a lot sexier than 7 + 1
Lol of course not. For that I have my 22/45. And if you need 15-16 rounds to hit a target, then you shouldn't be operating a firearm. At that miss-to-hit ratio, you're more of a danger to bystanders. And let's be honest, how many people are going to be able physically to put up a fight after even 2 body hits from a .45ACP.
Wow, can you sound any more ignorant? First of all in a combat scenario ammo count is VITAL. Ask anyone who has had to defend themselves complaining about having too much ammo. I'll save you some time you won't. Secondly having more rounds doesn't mean shooting recklessly. It just means you can stay in the fight longer if necessary. Thirdly, ballistic ally speaking there really isn't all that much difference between 9mm or .45ACP, especially when you factor in hollow points. Neither is nearly the man stopped some (like you) seem to think. There have cases of people taking full blasts from shotguns to the chest and living long enough to take 10 more paces. Police officers have gotten killed thinking the way you do. You have a bit to learn. I need a nap. Your ignorance is exhausting.
luvfreedom So right you are...You will find many keyboard commandoes that are experts her on Y.T. that's never had a shot fired at them in anger,,,,or have never been in anything resembling a gunfight at all...There preconceived notions are based within Hollywood movies....
7 yards more like 7 feet
Hear that flushing sound? That's 1999 of your tax dollars.
+philosophersphone No Sir, that's the sound of money well spent. America's finest deserve the finest weapons to defend their lives while they defend our country. I'm proud knowing that my tax dollars are spent on things such as this pistol. Now the average salary of jerk off politicians who give themselves annual raises while they sign off on bills that erode our Second Amendment is money flushed down the toilet! I say give every "political leader" who has ever supported "gun control" bills a severe pay cut and spend the saved money on more weapons for our troops.
+Eric Warner Spend the money on weapons that are actually an improvement, and it might be justified. I say this as a soldier who fully supports money going to the design of arms for my comrades: I physically recoiled in horror and disgust when I saw the figure of $1,999 on the screen. No 1911 is worth that. Not unless it's this improved version hand signed by both John Browning and Col. Samuel Colt. Since neither man is around to do so, I'd expect to see at least a pair of CZ 75s in that box as well.
+bBlaF go buy you cheap shit , leave the expensive guns to the big boys
+Eric Warner You are so full of shit
+philosophersphone No doubt. Even a .45ACP in a polymer would have done the job in at 7 yards. I laugh at the idiot who thinks you need a sidearm that weighs 40 ounces (in any caliber) in a modern combat situation to get the job done. The design for the 1911 is so outdated for modern miltary use it's a joke. even The Beretta 92 Series needs dumped as well.
Nothing shoots more true and is as comfortable than the Colt M45A1 CQBP
Correction sir, not FORMER marine, you ARE a marine! Once a marine, ALWAYS a marine. Thank you for your service. Love your videos and love this pistol, I wish I could afford one!
$1900 for this?
thats insane
It's over price at $1900.00
Let's see $150 case, $50 cleaning kit, $60 in mags, $200 cerakote finish, $120+ g10 grip panels, $200 Novak sights, price of stainless steel is more than aluminum. Seems like a steal at 1900 to me
INFLATION MY FRIEND, EVERYTHING IS UP IN PRICE.
I separated in late 03’; my 1911 had a Springfield slide, barsto barrel and a Remington lower. It was great for DA.
We went with this overpriced 1911 because a general left the corps and took a high ranking position with colt. Hello contract.
We should have gone with Glocks for many reasons, number one being cost. We have low budgets, why waste it on pistols that require lots of attention. Another retarded decision just like the one to pass on the fn fal and turn the m1 into the m14.
I love my TRP, but if someone placed that next to a g17 on a table and said “ you're getting in a gunfight today, choose one”.
I would love to have one of these. If it's good enough for the USMC it's good enough for me. This 1911 will be next after my TRP.
I found one for 2300 bucks (Lightly used, perfect condition) yesterday, and after hearing they were so rare, I had to get it, as I'm a fmr Marine myself. I'm jealous Travis Haley didn't shoot my first 7 rds, but someday I'll take a class from him lol Great review, Tim!
I'm probably missing something... but $2000 ($3800 for the ones on Gunbroker) for this pistol just seems overpriced. Hell, I didn't even pay that much for my Series 80 Gold Cup.
Welcome to Colt Co.
The magazines it comes with are $60 each, the case is another $200, that stupid cleaning kit costs $50. Now slap a Colt logo on everything and brand it with USMC and the price just went up another $500. That leaves us to believe that under any normal conditions this pistol should sell in the $1200 range, where it should be.
He paid $1200 for his Gold Cup. I know I've got one. Add those things to it you said plus the rail, paint/ powder coat, grips, and the sights and you've got a $2000 gun. Don't like it don't pay it. I love my Colts
Beards and firearms. How much manlier could you get?
The gun community is a very hairy one.
THAT'S THE NEW STYLE, IT'S CALLED THE OSAMA BIN LADEN'S BEGINNER'S KIT.😉😏😂
At this price I think I would rather have a Wilson Combat 1911.
IT'S FUNNY YIU SAID I WAS THINKING THE SAME EXACT THING, HOWEVER, IT WILL NOT BE THIS MODEL USMC COLT. IT'S BASICALLY COMES DOWN TO WHAT YOU REALLY WANT AND THIS "MAY" BECOME A COLLECTOR'S ITEM ONE DAY, AS THE WILSON WON'T.
Having a legend like Travis Haley shoot the first shots 😍
That's a Beauty MAC Congrats on getting your hands on one.
I'd love to own this weapon, but for $2000? Probably not.
If I found one for a good deal, I'd buy one. But as you said, not for $2000.
WKZworks get an MC Operator from Springfield. Half the cost, more features.
I can only afford a RIA...
The magazine capacity of 7 rounds, is designed for a modern military pistol, too little, even if it is a 45 caliber. There are 1911 pistols, which have a 14 round magazine, Colt should have gone exactly the same way with the new gun for the MC.
8 rounds = less reliability. Original 1911 was designed with a 7 round mag.
louie000007 less reliability? Get outa here with that crap and get yourself a decent magazine.
cwalkcory I agree, ive used mec-gar 8 round magazines ever since my first 1911 and they havn't missed a beat.
As much as I like the 1911 it's simply outdated. I can't believe the Marines seriously dropped 2k on a single stack handgun that holds a lousy 7 rounds in the mag plus one in the chamber. Why not a double stack 40 or 45? Heck why not get an XD mod 2 .45 and call It a day?
+Fabian Taveras Because they actually hit what they are aiming at with the first round, instead of of spray and pray with the 9mm.
Panzer D 9mm? I was never talking about 9mm. I was talking about why out of all the 45 options they decided to go with the ancient 1911 that holds a lousy 7 rounds plus 1. when there are other 45 options for example like the XD mod 2 in 45.or how about fnx 45? There are simply better options the Marines could have selected.
+Fabian Taveras Your assumption is that newer and plastic are somehow better than older and steel. I would disagree. Many of john Browning,s (Old) designs are still being used to this day. Though not a browning design, the AK-47 is outdated but is still the standard bearer of assault Rifles. The M14 or M1a is an old design but is still in use today as well as the High Power 9mm and M2 50cal. As a former Marine I can tell you that hitting what your aiming at with the first round is something the Marine Corps takes very serious and it's all about the training. But I understand your curiosity there are a lot of nice pistols to choose from being made these days. I guess they had their reasons.
+Panzer D I'm just not seeing the justification for a single stack 45 Now a days that's just limiting. I would love to hear the Marines reasoning on why they settled spending $2,000 on a single stack hand gun.
+Fabian Taveras That is a good question that I would actually like to know the answer to also.
that gun will out live us all.
It's already replaced by the M18
@@Totemparadox the old ones are not going away,, lol 😆😂😂😆
I had a old one, still worked great.
Thanks Tim. I had to go back and look for a fave RUclips video for this gun. So many polymer fan boys hate on the 1911. I think they are classy and I’m a fan of them. I’d like to have that one or one of the original decommissioned military units.
22 million dollar mistake. The FNP is a better battle pistol. A 1911 is a gunslingers pistol.
The US will always love the 1911, if we didn't choose it immediately as a .45 of choice then we wouldn't be American.
7 yards... lol. stop.
7 yards is the most effective distance to train at. Semi auto handguns are by no means a long range firearm. In military, law enforcement, and even civilian use, handguns are used at very close distances. Think spitting distance close. Grouping a pistol at 7 yards is totally acceptable.
I don't think he was at 7 yards! he only walked about six steps to the Target. @ 2'-0 each step
Man you are very good at shooting and very knowledgable and professional. Subscribed!
Now that is a perfect video! And a guest appearance from Travis Haley. A++++
I think the awesomeness of this thing would make someone fight better regardless of on paper reasoning
Hey Tim, I'm a retired marine myself and your absolutely right, every marine should have one in their collection! when I first came in that is what we used with steel pots on our grapes! I love that the USMC is going back to the 45! I guess somebody got smart at CMC!!
by far the best looking video youve done.
Thank you for your service!!!!! Soldiers, Police, Fire Fighters, and EMS are REAL HEROES and kick superman's butt!!!!!
Great Review Mac. I like that the USMC decided to go back to America's Roots or just a really amazing handgun. Semper Fi!!! Skoot
Love the depth of field in those cameras...
I have watched this video over 15 times and it never gets old. This makes me want to do a lat move just so I can use it in country.
IF you were serving. My older brother who served 8 years in the USMC and not only was a shooting instructor at Pendleton but was also on the USMC shooting team, expert with the pistol and won several competitions with the 1911 (kimber custom II), Berretta m9, and Luger 9mm. Of all of them the match grade 1911 was the favorite pistol to shoot and most wins pistol they had. Before you judge like this make sure you're experience extends further than Call of Duty black ops multiplayer.
Very nice 1911 I carried the 1911 3rd and 35th armored battalion Bamberg Germany Warner concern still love this pistol
I would like to get my hands on one. I tried a couple years ago, and after waiting almost 9 months with promises my rifle would ship "next week" for about 5 of those 9 months, I canceled my order and spent the money on something else. If I could get one in a reasonable amount of time, I would be glad to pick one up.
That Gun is Beautiful!!!!
This is my favorite handgun of all time by far.
Thank you for the review! I was doubting about buying one but this video answer all my doubts!
It seems like the 1911 will never die.
It WILL NEVER die
I carried a WW 2 1911 45 while deer hunting in Maine as there was bears about. They are so heavy to haul around all day so the next day I left the pistol behind. I like the 1911 45.
I ended up going with the Sig Sauer 1911 Scorpion Carry model. It's Cerakoted in fde and has wonderful Hogue G-10 Pirahna grips. Also came with Sig night sights. So far after 500 rounds I absolutely love the gun!! No issues at all. I paid $1049 for it at my local gun store. Just another great option for anyone in the market for a Cerakoted FDE 1911. Great video and sweet Colt 1911 ! ✌
Had mine converted to series 70, shoots much better. Better trigger..