Developer: "What should we do for secondaries?" WG: "Base them on the Atlanta" Developer: "...but the Atlanta doesn't have secondaries?!" WG: "Did I stutter?" Narrator: "And so, our hapless developer slapped an Atlanta to either side of the Hannover and called it a day"
@@shikikan6345 wait for the super dds. they are 2m long onl, have 500m concealment and 10sec 20 torps reload. next step of bullshit is right around the corner.
@@debilus7921 The irony is that Shinano was not a very good carrier. It was certainly not better than Taihou in any respect beyond sheer tonnage. Despite her size, Shinano couldn't carry more planes than a normal fleet carrier--and she was slower than them regardless.
@@joey_f4ke238 i dont know. most of the time when secondaries get destroyed, that message does not show. if not you would get that message everytime a thunderer shoots HE at you.
@@Sky_Guy the thing is i am pretty sure not all the port side secs are destroyed. you can even see that they are not destroyed. he has the sec health module as well.
The Hannover is supossed to be an H42 so the Main Guns are correct but the Rest is not! H42 90000t, 305m length, 42,5m width, 8x48cm Main Guns, 12x15cm and 16x10,5 cm secondaries, 28x3,7cm and 40x2cmFlak and 6x53,3cm Torps! H44 131000t, 345m Length, 51,5 m width, 8x50,8cm Main Guns, same sec. and same Flak and Torps.
@@carstenstille8503 Hannover looks like a Hood on steroids or an enlarged version of a 1917 battlecruiser design from the Kaiserliche Marine. Wargaming purposely made Hannover so long to make it a Torp magnet. H44 with a width of 51.5 meters would have been rendered nearly invulnerable to torpedoes but a massive target for rockets and bombers.
@@legiran9261 The bulkhead designs on this thing would have been stupid. Maybe you could flood it if you got enough compartments on one side to cause it to list but idk if a ship that wide would list much. The yamato was capsized at nearly 39 meters. But ya a ship that size would be an aircraft magnet.
@@beware3586 H-44's TDS was so ridiculously wide you need at least a Type 93 torpedo to punch a hole in her engineering spaces. Anything less than that would only do crumple damage. Yes if you spam enough torpedoes at a ship it will eventually sink regardless how large it is. H44 was conceived as a paper experiment to see what type of ship was needed to defeat all weapons then in service in late 1943 or early 1944. By that time the Germans weren't aware of the 6 ton Tallboy bomb. As for Yamato's 39 meters beam. The ship had an engineering flaw in her TDS that the engineers were aware of even during construction. But they decided to press ahead anyway because they would have lost 2 to 3 years in construction to correct the flaw. The weakness was the connection between the bottom part of her 410 mm belt and the top part of her TDS back plating which happened to be around the same height as where a torpedo would strike. had Yamato been engineered with a Montana style TDS and construction quality she would have taken a chunk more torpedo hits before she would have sunk..
@@legiran9261 Yamato also had an issue with armor separation. There is documentation that even firing her guns would cause some of the riveting to seperate. I think there was a journal entry from one of the officers concerning this. There is a likelihood that when torpedoes and bombs struck her, her watertight compartments actually separated causing mass flooding.
Is like oh i wanna play with those! But then i remember the subs coming, CVs, new nuke air strikes, spamm of stealth ships, secondaries nefed in the ground, nah no thank you
@@heinzsielmann5952 Uff. Someone wants to be Super precise or what ? :D caliber of Hannover is far bigger than both. But Hannover uses 128mm secondaries. FdG doesn't. Hannover is T10 , FdG isn't. Healthpool is way bigger than FdG s. So its more a GK+ than a FdG. Try harder next time, or don't take comments so seriously 😂😂
Well at least we know the game's collision detection is great, there was no clipping at all by any parts of either ship during that ridiculous collision
Update: first game with Hannover today, 244.7k dmg, 3kills, 2caps, a yugumo killed in dual, then a somers killed dual in end game as well, surviving both fights, and ending with 1503bxp on a defeat killed by enemy Hannover grinding me down (I guess 2 of my teammates was bots or at least 2 extremely passive dd newbies, not sure, but we should have won this). ... in anycases, Hannover is insane, it’s what GK should have been since long (well he was long time ago, but now 406-420mm guns are just not enough). The only thing with this new mode, ending with 245k dmg and 1500bxp on a defeat, and it’s not enough to unlock the tokens needed to play the next game with a SHBB ? That kinda sucks tbh... I know they need players to also use others ships in this new mode, but that kind of result should really give me the free pass for the next game I guess, it’s boring i need to do 2-3 games more before doing it again in a SHBB. Does not incentivise to play a lot imo... but well, that new brawler SHBB is definitely fun, that’s for sure ! 👌😂
HE resistant German BB? what sorcery is this? basically atlanta strapped to each side for secondaries... and boost to range and accuracy activating on certain dmg done? sw33t
They quietly changed it to 14 intelligence reports i think. But more than the amount required, the real problem is the way to earn it. Again not solving the actual problem (well what's new)
Shoulda went with the health boost skill that concealment did you no good and with such a big ship i doubt youll be able to be unconcealed unless you play more cruiser like
Dear Flambino i tryed this Ship in PTS :first game 301k damage (150k Guns, 125k secondaries, 25k fires) 2,5 million tanking, almost gone Yolo and took 3 enemy with me, and next games people complain about how Bad this Ship is, i can understand why
AA on german battleships aren't accurate a lot in main config, i think this ship will not evade that rule, it's pretty hard schedule hybrid config on him and can defend himself from the air and surface same time.
I had two DDs sitting at 8km from me in the open, while I was in a full secondary build Hannover. Even with the skill procing I didn't do jack shit to those DDs.
We're you experiencing game lag, low fps, or high ping? If that's the case, tracers and shells love to disappear. If not, this is blatant hyperboly. I played 9 games in Hannover with full secondary build etc and with the fire adjustment thing you get at least pre-rework dispersion, and if RNG loves you you can get US BB secondary dispersion when skill is active. In short, what you're saying is near impossible, especially if they're stationary.
So if these super battleships are 100 times better than any battleship we have ever had on this game. That means its 1% as powerful as the worst CV in the game....;-) Because they cannot be hit back when they attack.
you mean something like a super Kremlin with 557mm guns, of course 12 of them. The rear turrets are (OF COURSE) 360 degree, in 20 second turning turrets AND with with Hannover secondaries, radar and super heal :D
@@Lc4Hunter Nope, it's actually a nuclear super cruiser that is an carrier for jet planes and helicopters and armed with ship-to-ship and ship-to-air missiles. The name would be Kuznetsov and it's actually build and operated. Pray to what ever God you find that W-ee G-eee never introduce it to the game.
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Snapps not Vodka. Hannover is based on the H1 design. German design.
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@@knightworld3019 Looks to be the H-43.
Developer: "What should we do for secondaries?"
WG: "Base them on the Atlanta"
Developer: "...but the Atlanta doesn't have secondaries?!"
WG: "Did I stutter?"
Narrator: "And so, our hapless developer slapped an Atlanta to either side of the Hannover and called it a day"
I laughed
Lmao
Players: WG please fix the endless HE spam!
WG: We heard you and will sell you a HE resilient ship!
Players: that's the opposite of what we want!
Hanover：I have the best resilient armor for HE and AP，what I really afraid of is torps
*Enters Conquerer
Thunderer more like.
lol the bajie tried to team kill the satsuma for his bad driving and got it reflected back on himself XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Yeah right, Imagine WG will introduce super carriers next. DDs are gonna love that so much.
Don't we alreadt have FDR?
@@shikikan6345 wait for the super dds. they are 2m long onl, have 500m concealment and 10sec 20 torps reload. next step of bullshit is right around the corner.
A little Shinano would be great :D
@@debilus7921 The irony is that Shinano was not a very good carrier. It was certainly not better than Taihou in any respect beyond sheer tonnage. Despite her size, Shinano couldn't carry more planes than a normal fleet carrier--and she was slower than them regardless.
@@Raptor747 just because Japan lost their ship too fast which makes them rush to get this super carrier done
18:24 "Port secondary armament destroyed" - fun and engaging experience huh
pretty sure that is a bug
@@exarex9697 I would suppose that means one of the secondaries got knocked out
@@joey_f4ke238 i dont know. most of the time when secondaries get destroyed, that message does not show. if not you would get that message everytime a thunderer shoots HE at you.
@@exarex9697 The message appears when _all_ secondaries on that side were knocked out.
@@Sky_Guy the thing is i am pretty sure not all the port side secs are destroyed. you can even see that they are not destroyed. he has the sec health module as well.
Design H44: 345 meters armed with 8 x 508 mm guns.
Hannover: 355 meters armed with 8 x 483 mm guns.
Wargaming WTF?
The Hannover is supossed to be an H42 so the Main Guns are correct but the Rest is not!
H42 90000t, 305m length, 42,5m width, 8x48cm Main Guns, 12x15cm and 16x10,5 cm secondaries, 28x3,7cm and 40x2cmFlak and 6x53,3cm Torps!
H44 131000t, 345m Length, 51,5 m width, 8x50,8cm Main Guns, same sec. and same Flak and Torps.
@@carstenstille8503 Hannover looks like a Hood on steroids or an enlarged version of a 1917 battlecruiser design from the Kaiserliche Marine.
Wargaming purposely made Hannover so long to make it a Torp magnet.
H44 with a width of 51.5 meters would have been rendered nearly invulnerable to torpedoes but a massive target for rockets and bombers.
@@legiran9261 The bulkhead designs on this thing would have been stupid. Maybe you could flood it if you got enough compartments on one side to cause it to list but idk if a ship that wide would list much. The yamato was capsized at nearly 39 meters.
But ya a ship that size would be an aircraft magnet.
@@beware3586 H-44's TDS was so ridiculously wide you need at least a Type 93 torpedo to punch a hole in her engineering spaces. Anything less than that would only do crumple damage. Yes if you spam enough torpedoes at a ship it will eventually sink regardless how large it is. H44 was conceived as a paper experiment to see what type of ship was needed to defeat all weapons then in service in late 1943 or early 1944. By that time the Germans weren't aware of the 6 ton Tallboy bomb. As for Yamato's 39 meters beam. The ship had an engineering flaw in her TDS that the engineers were aware of even during construction. But they decided to press ahead anyway because they would have lost 2 to 3 years in construction to correct the flaw. The weakness was the connection between the bottom part of her 410 mm belt and the top part of her TDS back plating which happened to be around the same height as where a torpedo would strike. had Yamato been engineered with a Montana style TDS and construction quality she would have taken a chunk more torpedo hits before she would have sunk..
@@legiran9261 Yamato also had an issue with armor separation. There is documentation that even firing her guns would cause some of the riveting to seperate. I think there was a journal entry from one of the officers concerning this.
There is a likelihood that when torpedoes and bombs struck her, her watertight compartments actually separated causing mass flooding.
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I thought this game mode wouldn't CV's in it, since it was meant to be what if the world didn't go down the CV path
Cvs would always be viable even if the world didn't invest so many
I can't wait for the Russian/Soviet line to feature a "year of design" CV with ICBM's for secondary armament.
i hope they replaced manual secondaries with accuracy adjustment, this is good idea the longer secondaries shoot the often they hit.
You can have both you know.
Is like oh i wanna play with those!
But then i remember the subs coming, CVs, new nuke air strikes, spamm of stealth ships, secondaries nefed in the ground, nah no thank you
Secondary on this ship are actually nice they do there job and then when you get range buff to 14 it’s a thing of beauty
7:24 i love how the Flag disapears the moment you went back to Port LUL
I was expecting for the guns to sound more awesome........
I guess we could dream.
Yea Hannover need Shikishima gunsound.
I was expecting bigger guns on a "super battleship."
I guess the gimmick is the secondaries. Which is cool if you can live and actually hit stuff.
510mm not big enough?
@@trololoev The Hannover has 483 mm though?
@@kaltaron1284 well, this is still not a small gun.
Doesnt matter. EVERYTHING above 459 mm is big enough to overmatched 32 mm armor. Next border is 38 mm but even with 510mm u cant overmatch it
@@trololoev Just correcting your number. And it's not the biggest so small by comparison. ;)
Forgetting to mention the 35mm areas of the ship, which Shiki and Satsuma can pen it.
You can click on their name tag when selecting a secondary battery priority target which is easier than clicking on the ship itself btw
This consumable should be standart for the German battleships... would be so mutch fun!
It's Flamus favorite ship, it's Speeeesssshhhhhuuuulllll
Hannover is GK 2.0 , it's absolutely lovely.
Not really Hannover 4*2 Guns, G.K 4*3 Guns.
Hannover is more like FDG 2.0
@@heinzsielmann5952 Uff. Someone wants to be Super precise or what ? :D caliber of Hannover is far bigger than both. But Hannover uses 128mm secondaries. FdG doesn't. Hannover is T10 , FdG isn't. Healthpool is way bigger than FdG s. So its more a GK+ than a FdG.
Try harder next time, or don't take comments so seriously 😂😂
@@Seppe1106 FDG is by far better then G.K so its more a FDG 2.0 for me...
So its back to how the game used to be, before they nerfed the 13.5 range of yamato 2nd, except you dont have 13.5 all the time. More gimmicks
This ship + GL must be crazy
Where can I see the thumbnail of this video?
Wait did the captain of your ship ask for vaseline right after sinking the DD.... what did you do.... flam needs to keep it PG
Play teir 10 they said! Enjoy super battleships they said!
Reality: chaos
The cool thing is that iam from Germany and i live in Hannover :)
Can't wait for the upcoming russian super BBs
I haven't played in a while, with BBs like these coming out I have to wonder if there is really still a role for cruisers.
Well at least we know the game's collision detection is great, there was no clipping at all by any parts of either ship during that ridiculous collision
That thing look nasty, no doubt about that 😂
Update: first game with Hannover today, 244.7k dmg, 3kills, 2caps, a yugumo killed in dual, then a somers killed dual in end game as well, surviving both fights, and ending with 1503bxp on a defeat killed by enemy Hannover grinding me down (I guess 2 of my teammates was bots or at least 2 extremely passive dd newbies, not sure, but we should have won this).
... in anycases, Hannover is insane, it’s what GK should have been since long (well he was long time ago, but now 406-420mm guns are just not enough).
The only thing with this new mode, ending with 245k dmg and 1500bxp on a defeat, and it’s not enough to unlock the tokens needed to play the next game with a SHBB ? That kinda sucks tbh... I know they need players to also use others ships in this new mode, but that kind of result should really give me the free pass for the next game I guess, it’s boring i need to do 2-3 games more before doing it again in a SHBB.
Does not incentivise to play a lot imo... but well, that new brawler SHBB is definitely fun, that’s for sure ! 👌😂
I wonder when we'll see the American counterpart, based on Tillman IV-2, which makes up for lack of caliber with sheer number of guns (15 18”)
Make a Vermont with a 30sec reload to the main guns that would be it.
@@jayvee8502 I was aiming for something with historical weight behind it.
Hannover, build her for FULL secondaries, slap FP on as the one defense skill and use the main guns just for extra dacka.
HE resistant German BB? what sorcery is this?
basically atlanta strapped to each side for secondaries...
and boost to range and accuracy activating on certain dmg done?
sw33t
This super BBs are nothing to Dutch air strikes. It will be devastated.
Really wish all german bbs had that secondary thing
It is really dumb, they should at least let you charge it and activate later when you are actually in a brawl
They quietly changed it to 14 intelligence reports i think. But more than the amount required, the real problem is the way to earn it. Again not solving the actual problem (well what's new)
Just change it so that you have to win, maybe then people will not yolo right in. 🤔
"extremely resilient to HE", funny but I find it burns quite nice when it hose it down with my Daring
But its still resilient to he, not burning
HE and fires are two different things.
Cant wait to see the ship named Dora Gustav 2x4 800mm
I wonder what these things will cost and type of resource they will end up going with
It’s long past time all National tech trees have the same over match as yammy . They should add a new tier 11 to the game
Must be H42 base, cause H43 + 44 designs had a double torp belt - which would have been nice. Would made a Shima cry :-D
In the future: 125K HP, after the battle "fire dmg 120K"
Is Hanover H-44?
Why no Super Heavy AP for the memes?
Is this not a H44 Class just renamed? Technically the H in H44 could stand for the Hanover...
the dumb post-battle result bug in live server is still kept even in PTS....Lmfao wg
Why 128mm secondaries instead of the standard 127mm?
Standard German guns were always 128mm instead of 127mm. British, American, and Japanese guns were the only ones that used 127mm as a standard.
What does PTS mean again?
"Public Test Server"
@@Myomer104 ah ok thx
Shoulda went with the health boost skill that concealment did you no good and with such a big ship i doubt youll be able to be unconcealed unless you play more cruiser like
13:30 - it'll buff out :)
So this is basically the H-43...
Dear Flambino i tryed this Ship in PTS :first game 301k damage (150k Guns, 125k secondaries, 25k fires) 2,5 million tanking, almost gone Yolo and took 3 enemy with me, and next games people complain about how Bad this Ship is, i can understand why
You lucked out, is that simple.
17:00 NOOO you jinxed it, now wargaming is gonna nerf all secondaries again
AA on german battleships aren't accurate a lot in main config, i think this ship will not evade that rule, it's pretty hard schedule hybrid config on him and can defend himself from the air and surface same time.
Why wasnt this the Tech trees Tier ten
I had two DDs sitting at 8km from me in the open, while I was in a full secondary build Hannover. Even with the skill procing I didn't do jack shit to those DDs.
We're you experiencing game lag, low fps, or high ping? If that's the case, tracers and shells love to disappear. If not, this is blatant hyperboly. I played 9 games in Hannover with full secondary build etc and with the fire adjustment thing you get at least pre-rework dispersion, and if RNG loves you you can get US BB secondary dispersion when skill is active. In short, what you're saying is near impossible, especially if they're stationary.
Mandatory youtube engagement comment.
Fair trade take 2 torpedos, biotch slap DD.
hannover first game 370k damage and 662 secs hits
Yolo for 2 hours, then play the ship once, with people who are yoloing for 2 hours.
2 minutes ago? I can take it. Hello everybody have a great day!
Where is the GK gone
Wargaming you monsters....
When GK isn’t enough
Idk why but when I read Hannover, I thought it was vietnam or something.
Satsuma seems to be the weaker of the two by a large amount. Everyone with any level of comprehension knows about the Yamato/Musashi cheek weakness.
Which shouldn't be on the Satsuma since it shouldn't be a Yamato hull.
Thanks , for showing us how a muppet plays the Hanover.
So if these super battleships are 100 times better than any battleship we have ever had on this game. That means its 1% as powerful as the worst CV in the game....;-) Because they cannot be hit back when they attack.
Late to the party but isn't this just a really obese FDG with reload booster?
I like Satsuma more
50mm deck armor makes hannover WEAKER than Kremlin. But hey, its a "super BB" PepoClown ..
Well, I like the guns, but the ship itself is too big.
WG allway do it . Make a new ship so good and fix old ship to bad. They want we by new ship . See this 2nd too good and GK 2nd miss so much :v
If you think thats bad-ass, wait till you see the russian super battleships..:P
you mean something like a super Kremlin with 557mm guns, of course 12 of them. The rear turrets are (OF COURSE) 360 degree, in 20 second turning turrets AND with with Hannover secondaries, radar and super heal :D
I believe they are called a battlestation or death star my friend
@@Lc4Hunter Nope, it's actually a nuclear super cruiser that is an carrier for jet planes and helicopters and armed with ship-to-ship and ship-to-air missiles. The name would be Kuznetsov and it's actually build and operated. Pray to what ever God you find that W-ee G-eee never introduce it to the game.
@@dominges Juggernaught?
Been enjoying war on the sea and the dope new rebellion mod for star wars empire at war than this shit.
Thank God i dont play anymore warships....
Hello beautiful people!
I wish you fair winds!
Just don't be down wind savvy?
Say what you want about Hannover, until WG does the same for Russians it's fine I think
probably
most likely
perhaps
aight it really ain't fine
Super Lenin would be fun to play against as long as she has a punishable broadside
@@thepaperbagmask Kremlin has a punishable broadside
-Totally not a WG spy I swear
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oh look, more rot from WoT
Who's ready for Super CV's?
It is shiter, Flambass... It is a German ship. Stop shilling, now.
TTS is a nutshell.