And also, before the Mulan animated version was even released, China released its own live action version around the 70s-early 90s around there. It actually told that version, along with showing a more blunt side linguistically speaking. It was pretty good when I saw it :). I recommend it :).
Haha, i am amused by your understanding that “Mulan buys one thing in the south, the other thing in the north.....” In fact, as a Chinese who studied this poem in my middle school, i want to say the ole traditional Chinese cannot be translated in the modern way as the modern Chinese. You cannot translate word by word, in fact it’s a kind of special expression usage which means “in order to buy all she wants, Mulan made great effort by going all places she can to look for those items”, but not “buy exactly item 1 in place A, item 2 in place B.”
I think I know, why Mulan bought the stuffs from different markets. In China (and several other east countries) the directions got 1 animal: The black turtle of the north The red bird of the south The blue dragon of the east And the white tiger of the west. In my opinion, the reason why she bought stuffs from different directions, is because she tought, the four guardians will protect her Edit: this comment didn’t age well.
That is an good explanation! But as a Chinese, I think that is not the reason though. The reason why all four directions were all mentioned was simply for the lines to rhyme with each other, it's a song after all...
Actually, we studied the ballad in school, and it was simply to emphasize how far she had to go and how determined she had to be to be prepared for war. That was a good theory though, sorry for debunking it...maybe you’re still right, but that’s what my teacher said
The idea of the hares is that if you lift up a female hair by it's ears, it will freeze in terror. The male hare, however, will struggle. When they run there is no difference. The idea of multiple markets was to cover her tracks according to my calligraphy teacher, even though there are few proper settled markets set up around that time (most permanent markets come up around the Song). By the way, "10 000" can also simply be used to mean 'a lot'
You want messed up, look at the origin of Sleeping Beauty, the story of The Sun, Moon, and Talia. Read it close to a toilet, so you don't mess up your underwear.
Why does everybody (lgbtq+) want her to be a transgender or a lesbian? Why not just let her be a tomboy? A tomboy is a woman/lady that has masculine aspects and likes things that are stereotypically associated with men/boys, but is still sexually attracted to men/boys. She can also have a masculine appears, but doesn't necessary have to. I actually prefer tomboys over what society and traditional norms (stereotypes) says a lady ought to be. To me, a more is than just a phase; it's a permanent lifestyle and choice. So this is the kind of lady I desire for me. Great video. Keep up the good work. ---------------------------------------------------------------- with love from a nerdy/reasonable Christian.
batmanfanforever08 it's because there's a lack of good lgbtq+ représentation people create these theories to make their own representation, it can and is taken over board by some but is ultimately a harmless attempt at seeing themselves represented in mainstream media
+Danandbands, I always disliked when people interpret her like that because I wanted to see myself in her. I wasn't lesbian but I'd act and dress as a boy lol. I also dislike the idea that the way someone acts means you know what their sexuality is. Gives room to stereotyping.
Idk if I'd go so far as to say she was a tomboy, although nothing was wrong with it. She wanted to be the perfect version of femininity, she didn't protest to the cultural expectations of her- she just wasn't good at it. She chose to join the army not because she preferred swinging a sword or doing masculine things(She is actually disgusted by the habits of men)- she did it to save her father. She had selfless motivation in the sense she wasn't seeking out to be her "true self" but to risk everything she cared about and her own well being to protect her father and all of China. Merida, I would say, is very much a tomboy.
To a chinese person, going to war without getting your parent's blessing is unthinkable. So while Disney's mulan is a good american story, it's not a chinese story. It's a valley girl in chinese costume. That would be like if Japan made a movie about Jesus where he is a used car salesman. I'm sure no Christians would complain about a movie that completely misrepresents christianity and christian culture. Clearly Disney just thought "how do we tap into chinese audience and make more money?" Instead of "How do we make a movie about a strong woman that saves a country and educate the public about another culture accurately?"
no, it's not a children's version of Mulan story. It's a valley girl version of an american story. Replace Mulan with Jennifer and the setting with Los Angeles, then it would be culturally accurate. To say it's mulan is just ignorant. How about this, make a movie call "life of george washington" where George is a pirate that over throws the queen of england and rules north america as a king. Would that qualify as "children's version of george washington?" I definitely would call that version of george washington stupid, inaccurate and total garbage.
Y’all are really trying to argue that Mulan is a lgbtq? 💀💀 I’m bi , and I can tell you now that she’s not part of it AT ALL . The only reason she dressed as a male was to protect her father and fight in the war if the army allowed women in 10000000% sure she wouldn’t have dressed as a man . And yes , there is a problem with lgbtq people trying to make straight characters gay , if you want representation that bad make a damn character yourself 🤦🏽♀️ .
Well she isn't fitting in the stereo typical female role of her decade... You don't have to be transgender to be lgbtq+. Maybe she is lgbtq+ maybe she isn't, who fucking cares? As if it would be a problem, when people try to interpret things in Disney characters to feel more represented and welcome. (Sorry for grammar mistakes I'm German '\(0•0)/' )
As a Chinese person, hearing a Westerner talk about a poem that you have to study at school is awesome. You nailed most of the details too, especially the last part about the hare.
I've always loved myths, legends, and Disney movies. Seeing Jon explain their origins so humorously makes my day a bit more brighter. Hope he does a video about Robin Hood sometime.
Mulan was likely from ethnic xianbei origin, an already extincted warrior ethnicity in norhern China. Hua(flower) was a common xianbei surname. Mulan was from Northern Wei Dynasty, the ruling class of the dynasty was from the Tuoba branch of xianbei,that was why the emperor was referred to as "khan". During that time, ethnic groups in the central plains were separated into different classes,the xianbeis were classified as the military class, which means whenever wars occured they were the ones to be sent to the frontlines to fight, all able-bodied xianbei men were identified as professional soldiers who were issued with armors,weapons and were required to be professional in martial skills like spear fighting,horseriding and archery, and they were required to pass down these weapons and skills to their male descendants generation after generation.
@@mrpumperknuckles1631 If thats the case and if Mulan is a pro-feminist story and charicter: then by your logic: Mulan is scum. But frankly anyone who would make such a mornic assertion is Manosphere, Incel scum.
MULAN is the 3rd best training montage after THE KARATE KID and all the ROCKY training montages. ROCKY IV's training in Russia (both times) are my favorites,especially the themes songs Hearts On Fire and No Easy,No Way Out.
Love the karate kids movies the 4th one the girl is more of a bad as s than Daniel son. And mieyogy is a super bad ass. And I love when rocky beats the Russian asome.
You've got her motivations for joining the military wrong it's not because she didn't feel like the traditional female role wasn't for her she did it to save her father's life
About that "buying horse at east market, saddle at west market..." It's not the exact meaning of what it's written or that Mulan was hiding her tracks. There is a rhetorical method in ancient Chinese literature called 互文, which means divide a whole piece of meaning into two sentences or phrases(in this case, four), so when you comprehend the sentences that use 互文, you need to complement the meaning of the first and the second sentences, like when it says "John does A stuff here, Paul does B stuff there", it actually means John and Paul do A and B here and there. So it means Mulan bought all equipments in some markets of different locations. There is another one in The Ballad of Mulan: 将军百战死，壮士十年归, which literal translation is : "generals died during a hundred wars, soldiers returned after ten years", but not all generals died and all soldiers survived and went back, so it just basically says after arduous and enduring wars, some of the generals and soldiers died, others returned.
Hi Jon Solo! I am new to your channel, and I completely love it! The history of movies and television, the behind the scenes, everything! I especially like the origins videos because it's so interesting to see what other people have imagined. Thank you for making your channel so amazing!
Just came from the Cinderella video. I knew there must be a Mulan video and was ready to hear some nonsense. But I have to say, this is the most well researched one I have ever encountered on RUclips! You are the only person I watched who ever mentioned Mulan is not a real person based on existing evidence. I truly appreciate your effort in research, not just coming up with some strange, shocking stories to attract viewers. And you are right about the lines about the markets. It is a poetic expression, just to show that Mulan went a lot of places to buy her equipments. And the “10000 miles” is also a figure of speech, showing Mulan has traveled a long distance.
Fun Fact: because in the original poem, Mulan has young siblings. Since Disney wanted her to be an only child, that's why they name the dog, "Little Brother" who also was designed by Chris Sanders who later made Lilo & Stitch
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Dude, don't be a butt-licker, people prefer it when they appreciate their efforts instead of when they follow up like a street dog that was fed spoiled meat.
雄兔脚扑朔，雌兔眼迷离。双兔傍地走，安能辨我是雄雌。🐰We learned this poem in junior high, and if you’re wondering why Mulan was purchasing her gear from 4 different markets separately: this is more of a rhetoric method （修辞手法）called 互文( I don’t know the English term for it), she wasn’t trying to cover her tracks or anything, what the author basically was trying to say is just that she went around to different places to get her full set of gear, cause apparently you can’t find a full set of gear for soldiers at one place I don’t know 🤷♀️
Cuteness & Crafts yeah I told my friends 2 of the stories a school and the guy sitting across from us was like “why the hell are you talking bout” And I said Disney movies and he gave me that look like I was crazy
The part about the he-hare and she-hare is actually to complement each other, to show that there ISN’T much difference between them, and she asked for a camel, not a horse (thought that’s barely even a mistake that matters). But your video was great! It followed how the ballad goes, too! I loved it!
Mulan is my favourite Disney, and the songs are amazing. Really happy the live action will try get closer to original versions but sad we're losing the songs.
Since I’ve studied the poem(in Chinese) in middle school, I‘d say the poem is not properly translated. The true ending poem is like this“ both he-hare’s and she-hare‘s feet go hop and skip, and their eyes are both muddled and fuddled.“ It make sense for a person use modern Chinese to confuse this since this kind of grammar are seldom used nowadays.
I love how the emperor’s comment ‘no matter how hard the wind blows, the mountain will not bow to it’ is basically Disney sending the message of ‘of someone is bullying you, just tell them to f*** off’
Newer sunscriber, here! I've been binge watching these videos and I am so impressed. The origins of these stories is absolutely fascinating! Edit: whether they are messed up or not.
Love all the hard work, only gripe that i got is that the music is the same on every video and on repeat for the whole time 🤷🏻♀️😎 still great work and I thank you for taking the time to put em together
I’m Chinese and we actually studied the poem when we were younger. This is how the original Chinese version goes: 唧唧復唧唧，木蘭當戶織。 不聞機杼聲，唯聞女歎息。 問女何所思，問女何所憶。 女亦無所思，女亦無所憶。 昨夜見軍帖，可汗大點兵。 軍書十二卷，卷卷有爺名。 阿爺無大兒，木蘭無長兄。 願為市鞍馬，從此替爺征。 東市買駿馬，西市買鞍韉。 南市買轡頭，北市買長鞭。 旦辭爺娘去，暮宿黃河邊。(btw the river she camped at was the Huang He) 不聞爺娘喚女聲，但聞黃河流水鳴濺濺。(this part you didn’t mention is how her parents cried for their daughter’s return) 旦辭黃河去，暮宿黑山頭。 不聞爺娘喚女聲，但聞燕山胡騎聲啾啾。 萬里赴戎機，關山度若飛。(it’s not as simple as just one sentence but this part descriptively describes the wars she’s had) 朔氣傳金柝，寒光照鐵衣。 將軍百戰死，壯士十年歸。 歸來見天子，天子坐明堂。 策勳十二轉，賞賜百千強。 可汗問所欲，木蘭不用尚書郎。 願借明駝千里足，送兒還故鄉。 爺娘聞女來，出郭相扶將。 阿姊聞妹來，當戶理紅妝。 小弟聞姊來，磨刀霍霍向豬羊。 開我東閣門，坐我西閣床。 脫我戰時袍，著我舊時裳。 當窗理雲鬢，對鏡帖花黃。 出門看火伴，火伴皆驚惶。 同行十二年，不知木蘭是女郎。 雄兔腳撲朔，雌兔眼迷離。 雙兔傍地走，安能辨我是雄雌。 Idk if that’s helpful or not but it’s just a really nice poem and I really like it and I’ve had it proudly memorised since fifth grade :) but honestly it’s just weird hearing you say the translated version lol. Nice video and I’m glad that you’ve shared this Chinese culture.
I love fairy tales so when I came across your videos (two years ago) I was intrigued. You are a handsome guy and a great story teller ;) love watching you!
Mulan was based on a story of a princess in china...who fought because her father was killed by a hian in the act of war... this was before the Great Wall was actually fully built...
So I want to correct some bad translation of original Mulan ballad. In the original story or poem, she does not have actually brother or sister. This bad interpretation of that comes from when she returns to the village. "When Elder Sister hears of Mulan’s return, she stands in the doorway wearing a beautiful dress When Little Brother hears that his sister has returned, He sharpens his knife to slaughter a pig and a lamb.” Brother and sister in this context are best friends in the village from where she from. These are not immediate blood relatives. Because in China we call all close friends our brother and sister even for close cousins. So this can be miss interpreted into immediate blood family when translated to English.
Lucky Sugar Pocahontas was here nickname it meant playful one and she was like 12 and she and John smith had a father daughter relationship then she was send to England years later where she feel in love and dies giving birth to an English colonist son So yeah
Found this channel from Seamus Gorman who spoke about how The Things (another RUclips channel) are stealing other RUclipsrs theories/ videos, they are only changing their videos slightly. Point is is that I just wanted to shout that out because I want people to know, if your subscribed please unsub, Ive watched a few of their vids, and honestly as well as mis informing people, the videos themselves arent even that good.
Their was an *interesting* take on Mulan, I saw on YT some time back. It was in Japanese and she was no fighter, she was an tapestry weaver - wow! I tried to find it again but haven't been able to thus far.
Aidan sucks at games if I’m correct it is assumed that after returning from war she was to be married but her husband to be died and she followed him into the afterlife. However the alternate version is that she didn’t want to be married and when she tried to run away she was killed this the idea that she “killed her sled” by sealing her fate.
She fought for her father’s sake, but when she returned her father was dead and mother remarried. Her mother remarried a wealthy man, and he offered Mulan to become one of his concubines. Mulan would rather die than live with him, so she killed herself.
She come back from the war only to find her father is pass away. King Khan i think his name is force her to marry him. Not sure what happen in between but she killed herself afterwards.
Blind Babbler I'm Chinese and I've never in my life heard of your version of the story. If it was written by someone it would not be written within a thousand years after the ballad of Mulan
His voice is perfect for these stories
Mabel Pines wow I appreciate that :)
Well im only telling the truth since my rached voice makes me sound like i wanna off myself with a gun.😅😐😶
Mabel Pines TRU
About his voice...
Tell me about it - it's perfect
And also, before the Mulan animated version was even released, China released its own live action version around the 70s-early 90s around there. It actually told that version, along with showing a more blunt side linguistically speaking. It was pretty good when I saw it :). I recommend it :).
Haven't seen that one, but there is a recent one that came out in 2009 and it's pretty cool.
Geeske Horneman Nice. Might check that one out..
What is it called?
I think I saw that one via Amazon prime in Germany. But even there her dad didn't die. Which he did in the origin if I remember right
Around the 70s to early 90s? Lol
Haha, i am amused by your understanding that “Mulan buys one thing in the south, the other thing in the north.....” In fact, as a Chinese who studied this poem in my middle school, i want to say the ole traditional Chinese cannot be translated in the modern way as the modern Chinese. You cannot translate word by word, in fact it’s a kind of special expression usage which means “in order to buy all she wants, Mulan made great effort by going all places she can to look for those items”, but not “buy exactly item 1 in place A, item 2 in place B.”
I think I know, why Mulan bought the stuffs from different markets.
In China (and several other east countries) the directions got 1 animal:
The black turtle of the north
The red bird of the south
The blue dragon of the east
And the white tiger of the west.
In my opinion, the reason why she bought stuffs from different directions, is because she tought, the four guardians will protect her
Edit: this comment didn’t age well.
Réka Varga yup! These animals are very popular in Vietnam, Korea, Japan, and China
That is an good explanation! But as a Chinese, I think that is not the reason though. The reason why all four directions were all mentioned was simply for the lines to rhyme with each other, it's a song after all...
I have read so much Wuxia, that this is actually a great theory. These guardians pop up in almost every Chinese fantasy novel I’ve ever read 😂😂😅
Actually, we studied the ballad in school, and it was simply to emphasize how far she had to go and how determined she had to be to be prepared for war. That was a good theory though, sorry for debunking it...maybe you’re still right, but that’s what my teacher said
徐tom I agree, it basically means she buys the equipments everywhere.
The idea of the hares is that if you lift up a female hair by it's ears, it will freeze in terror. The male hare, however, will struggle. When they run there is no difference. The idea of multiple markets was to cover her tracks according to my calligraphy teacher, even though there are few proper settled markets set up around that time (most permanent markets come up around the Song). By the way, "10 000" can also simply be used to mean 'a lot'
Where d'yu but that dope from
Can we mark this comment higher? Thank you for the insight!
“and after a dope fight scene,”
Mood AF.
I love these series!!! I hope you'll do more origins of other Disney movies!
Yukine! I love Noragami
Mary Jo Sahlin SAME!!!!!
Aww Yukine
There is a version of Mulan that Mulan actaully kills herself.
Starfire that's pretty dark. What is it called? I love dark things.
Aliza Bean I'm not sure and I also like dark things.
Starfire I want to hear that story
Vintage Couture I've been trying to find that verison.
Aliza Bean it’s called Romeo and Juliet...
“Like ‘UGH’ ya know?” LOL
When ever you(Jon solo) posts a video I immediately like it coz I know its gonna be soo good!❤
Zehra sultan right
Zehra sultan same👌😂❤️
Ditto! I can always undo it later if necessary, but have never needed to. Jon rocks!
The title says messed up;
Am I the only one who thinks this isn’t messed up? At all?
Also the thumbnail has nothing to do with the video..
It’s called click bait for a reason
LAYFAYETTE
I only watched this video because of the thumbnail and title bit they are both clickbait
Both the title and the thumbnail are clickbait
You want messed up, look at the origin of Sleeping Beauty, the story of The Sun, Moon, and Talia. Read it close to a toilet, so you don't mess up your underwear.
Why does everybody (lgbtq+) want her to be a transgender or a lesbian? Why not just let her be a tomboy?
A tomboy is a woman/lady that has masculine aspects and likes things that are stereotypically associated with men/boys, but is still sexually attracted to men/boys. She can also have a masculine appears, but doesn't necessary have to.
I actually prefer tomboys over what society and traditional norms (stereotypes) says a lady ought to be. To me, a more is than just a phase; it's a permanent lifestyle and choice. So this is the kind of lady I desire for me.
Great video. Keep up the good work.
---------------------------------------------------------------- with love from a nerdy/reasonable Christian.
batmanfanforever08 it's because there's a lack of good lgbtq+ représentation people create these theories to make their own representation, it can and is taken over board by some but is ultimately a harmless attempt at seeing themselves represented in mainstream media
Agreed
Tomboy = best whamen 👌💯
+Danandbands, I always disliked when people interpret her like that because I wanted to see myself in her. I wasn't lesbian but I'd act and dress as a boy lol. I also dislike the idea that the way someone acts means you know what their sexuality is. Gives room to stereotyping.
Idk if I'd go so far as to say she was a tomboy, although nothing was wrong with it. She wanted to be the perfect version of femininity, she didn't protest to the cultural expectations of her- she just wasn't good at it. She chose to join the army not because she preferred swinging a sword or doing masculine things(She is actually disgusted by the habits of men)- she did it to save her father. She had selfless motivation in the sense she wasn't seeking out to be her "true self" but to risk everything she cared about and her own well being to protect her father and all of China.
Merida, I would say, is very much a tomboy.
The inclusion of a dragon (Mushu or the "great stone dragon") in Mulan's legendary story definitely improved it.
Mulan was my first disney princess movie i fell in love with as a child. the up coming live action movie better be good.
Its not messed up tho
Theyre both really good stories
Exactly
To a chinese person, going to war without getting your parent's blessing is unthinkable. So while Disney's mulan is a good american story, it's not a chinese story. It's a valley girl in chinese costume. That would be like if Japan made a movie about Jesus where he is a used car salesman. I'm sure no Christians would complain about a movie that completely misrepresents christianity and christian culture. Clearly Disney just thought "how do we tap into chinese audience and make more money?" Instead of "How do we make a movie about a strong woman that saves a country and educate the public about another culture accurately?"
no, it's not a children's version of Mulan story. It's a valley girl version of an american story. Replace Mulan with Jennifer and the setting with Los Angeles, then it would be culturally accurate. To say it's mulan is just ignorant. How about this, make a movie call "life of george washington" where George is a pirate that over throws the queen of england and rules north america as a king. Would that qualify as "children's version of george washington?" I definitely would call that version of george washington stupid, inaccurate and total garbage.
Fun Fact:
Most Chinese students have to *MEMORIZE* the whole poem at some point in their high school curriculum
Its the name of the series..
New to this channel so I subscribe, melt into my couch like a baked potato and binge watch all the videos. Sounds like a good weekend.
She mostly went becuse her father was sick, and would surely die if he went to battle. (In the disney version.)
Sophie80 o this is also accurate for the real life story
Remember seeing this as a kid. Gave me an interest in art and calligraphy as a kid.
Y’all are really trying to argue that Mulan is a lgbtq? 💀💀 I’m bi , and I can tell you now that she’s not part of it AT ALL . The only reason she dressed as a male was to protect her father and fight in the war if the army allowed women in 10000000% sure she wouldn’t have dressed as a man . And yes , there is a problem with lgbtq people trying to make straight characters gay , if you want representation that bad make a damn character yourself 🤦🏽♀️ .
Mulan wasnt lgbt, but shang tho 👀
Well she isn't fitting in the stereo typical female role of her decade... You don't have to be transgender to be lgbtq+. Maybe she is lgbtq+ maybe she isn't, who fucking cares? As if it would be a problem, when people try to interpret things in Disney characters to feel more represented and welcome. (Sorry for grammar mistakes I'm German '\(0•0)/' )
Thank you
You right, Mulan isn’t however Shang be 👀👀
ThatOneAsianBroChick what’re you talking about, I’m referimg to how Shang is bi which is very obvious lol
As a Chinese person, hearing a Westerner talk about a poem that you have to study at school is awesome. You nailed most of the details too, especially the last part about the hare.
I love the way you explain the movie. "Greatest training montage of all time", "dope fight scene" awesome
I've always loved myths, legends, and Disney movies. Seeing Jon explain their origins so humorously makes my day a bit more brighter. Hope he does a video about Robin Hood sometime.
Late squad and not ashamed
Anna-Kay Burke no reason to be ;) thanks for watching
Hello! I'm late but late is better than never! :D
Anna-Kay Burke at least your not a day late
i came just as early as you
Late, late squad member here.
Please do the Princess and the frog next!
Logan DeLuca yesssssss
Princess and the frog!!!
I read a book where the princess took the frog by the leg and swung him around then his leg came off!
Mulan was likely from ethnic xianbei origin, an already extincted warrior ethnicity in norhern China. Hua(flower) was a common xianbei surname. Mulan was from Northern Wei Dynasty, the ruling class of the dynasty was from the Tuoba branch of xianbei,that was why the emperor was referred to as "khan". During that time, ethnic groups in the central plains were separated into different classes,the xianbeis were classified as the military class, which means whenever wars occured they were the ones to be sent to the frontlines to fight, all able-bodied xianbei men were identified as professional soldiers who were issued with armors,weapons and were required to be professional in martial skills like spear fighting,horseriding and archery, and they were required to pass down these weapons and skills to their male descendants generation after generation.
yeah
That’s why Mulan was a natural born fighter. She was in a military family.
Mulan was awesome even before women started to become independent!
LadyCeag840 mulan was the best story! Feminist are scum
Mr PumperKnuckles Well aren’t you a drop of sunshine.
Those anti-feminist Incel morons are the truely messed up things xD
@@mrpumperknuckles1631 If thats the case and if Mulan is a pro-feminist story and charicter: then by your logic: Mulan is scum.
But frankly anyone who would make such a mornic assertion is Manosphere, Incel scum.
MULAN is the 3rd best training montage after THE KARATE KID and all the ROCKY training montages. ROCKY IV's training in Russia (both times) are my favorites,especially the themes songs Hearts On Fire and No Easy,No Way Out.
Safiya Smith blasphemy!! 😋 it's really good, you should check it out.
Nora Kanama No.
How about Gohan's training with piccolo when he was younger?
Love the karate kids movies the 4th one the girl is more of a bad as s than Daniel son. And mieyogy is a super bad ass. And I love when rocky beats the Russian asome.
‘The Ballad of Mulan’ is actually an epic poem (i.e. a very long poem).
You've got her motivations for joining the military wrong it's not because she didn't feel like the traditional female role wasn't for her she did it to save her father's life
i'm literally binging every jon solo video and liking them all,his voice is literally a amazing storyteller's
The original story is much more innocent than the disney one though 😂😂
Jon is the most amazing person ever and is completely underrated.
Thanks Jon for the cool and informative video. I've always loved Disney's Mulan.
yesssss Mulan, Pocahontas and Ariel is my yam! Their stories and personalities are very inspiring and something to strive for.
You are really good at telling stories, or retelling. I am not confused, you move in a good time line, I feel at a good pace as well.
17th! Keep up the great work Jon! Love Mulan! She is a big inspiration to me
I love these messed-up origin videos so much, and I am especially fond of the story of Mulan, so I was really happy to see this!
About that "buying horse at east market, saddle at west market..." It's not the exact meaning of what it's written or that Mulan was hiding her tracks. There is a rhetorical method in ancient Chinese literature called 互文, which means divide a whole piece of meaning into two sentences or phrases(in this case, four), so when you comprehend the sentences that use 互文, you need to complement the meaning of the first and the second sentences, like when it says "John does A stuff here, Paul does B stuff there", it actually means John and Paul do A and B here and there.
So it means Mulan bought all equipments in some markets of different locations. There is another one in The Ballad of Mulan: 将军百战死，壮士十年归, which literal translation is : "generals died during a hundred wars, soldiers returned after ten years", but not all generals died and all soldiers survived and went back, so it just basically says after arduous and enduring wars, some of the generals and soldiers died, others returned.
I am amazed that you know so much about Chinese ancient literature.
Hi Jon Solo! I am new to your channel, and I completely love it! The history of movies and television, the behind the scenes, everything! I especially like the origins videos because it's so interesting to see what other people have imagined. Thank you for making your channel so amazing!
Are you and han solo related at all?
Just came from the Cinderella video. I knew there must be a Mulan video and was ready to hear some nonsense. But I have to say, this is the most well researched one I have ever encountered on RUclips! You are the only person I watched who ever mentioned Mulan is not a real person based on existing evidence. I truly appreciate your effort in research, not just coming up with some strange, shocking stories to attract viewers.
And you are right about the lines about the markets. It is a poetic expression, just to show that Mulan went a lot of places to buy her equipments. And the “10000 miles” is also a figure of speech, showing Mulan has traveled a long distance.
There is even a poem about Mulan and we have to learn it during secondary school in HK.
Fun Fact: because in the original poem, Mulan has young siblings. Since Disney wanted her to be an only child, that's why they name the dog, "Little Brother" who also was designed by Chris Sanders who later made Lilo & Stitch
Hope you like this episode everybody! Don't forget to SMASH that LIKE button so we can reach our biggest goal yet... 5,000 likes! :D
EDIT: Aaaaand you did it! 5,000+ likes in less than 24 hours. My mind is officially blown.
Jon Solo lolololololololo love you
Jon Solo can I get a shout out
love your videos
Yes it time to run some childhoods
Can you do a messed up origins about a Christmas movie / story
"Sit back, relax, hit that link button and enjoy" My fav line :)
You dont need to tell us to live a like
Ohn Bass that is true
Ohn Bass leave*
Dude, don't be a butt-licker, people prefer it when they appreciate their efforts instead of when they follow up like a street dog that was fed spoiled meat.
I love that opening melody. So good.
Im EARLY I can't believe it I love Jon and now that my notifications are on for his channel I came early😃
I love YOU! Glad you're here :D
Jon Solo omg I saw that you commented back and cried you are my all time fave youtuber thank-you your videos make my day and your comment made my life
When I was a kid, I was really amazed by Mulan's bravery compared to the Disney princesses.. until now, she's been my inspiration.
5:45
Mic drop? Huh...
"DID YOU SEE MY BAG? DID YOU SEE MY BAG IT'S HELLA TROPHIES AND IT'S HELLA THICK."
once you hyungwon you can't hyungwout 😂I was looking for your comment.
I am suprised a foreigner actually got the story right! Thank you!
"Until the sequel"
*has shade been thrown?*
😂🤣
雄兔脚扑朔，雌兔眼迷离。双兔傍地走，安能辨我是雄雌。🐰We learned this poem in junior high, and if you’re wondering why Mulan was purchasing her gear from 4 different markets separately: this is more of a rhetoric method （修辞手法）called 互文( I don’t know the English term for it), she wasn’t trying to cover her tracks or anything, what the author basically was trying to say is just that she went around to different places to get her full set of gear, cause apparently you can’t find a full set of gear for soldiers at one place I don’t know 🤷♀️
This one was not messed up at all compared to the other ones :3
Cuteness & Crafts yeah I told my friends 2 of the stories a school and the guy sitting across from us was like “why the hell are you talking bout”
And I said Disney movies and he gave me that look like I was crazy
It would have been more messed up if she at least was executed at the end.
The part about the he-hare and she-hare is actually to complement each other, to show that there ISN’T much difference between them, and she asked for a camel, not a horse (thought that’s barely even a mistake that matters). But your video was great! It followed how the ballad goes, too! I loved it!
Jon Solo: mic drop
Me: “mic, mic bungee”
Literally found this channel last night, or early hours this morning. Love it can't stop watching.
Before I watch every video I like it, you dont need to ask.😅😊
Great video! And Mulan was one of my favorites growing up.
"Greatest training montage ever!"
Mulan is my favourite Disney, and the songs are amazing. Really happy the live action will try get closer to original versions but sad we're losing the songs.
I always enjoy the mest up story's better!!
Mulan was my favorite Disney movie. ❤️
Can you do The Princess and the Frog next?
Beautiful
Why is Jon solo so cute?? 😂😏
Great video! Mulan is my favorite disney movie.
2:14 that’s called DRAG my dude
I stayed up all night watching a large amount of these videos😁
Jon Solo: *Mic Drop*
immediately thinks of BTS
Since I’ve studied the poem(in Chinese) in middle school, I‘d say the poem is not properly translated. The true ending poem is like this“ both he-hare’s and she-hare‘s feet go hop and skip, and their eyes are both muddled and fuddled.“ It make sense for a person use modern Chinese to confuse this since this kind of grammar are seldom used nowadays.
Do the Frozen orgin story
there's no such thing and who gives a shit about that fucking movie right now?
What's wrong with movie
The Programmer of video games Frozen is based off of the Snow Queen written by Hans Christian Anderson in the 1800's. So yea...there is a such thing.
I love how the emperor’s comment ‘no matter how hard the wind blows, the mountain will not bow to it’ is basically Disney sending the message of ‘of someone is bullying you, just tell them to f*** off’
Please do Aladdin
Fatima Guevara yes
I love jon solo so much he makes my love for dark origins not feel so bad, plus he puts so much life in the story and tells them amazingly ❤️❤️❤️
I love this so much bro just 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
5:45
This guy: Mic drop
Me being the A.R.M.Y that I am, I literally screamed XD
5:44 MIC DROP MY ARMYS! Lol why am I here?
Newer sunscriber, here! I've been binge watching these videos and I am so impressed. The origins of these stories is absolutely fascinating! Edit: whether they are messed up or not.
17th Comment. Woohoo Mulan!!!
Valndrisa Valkina hi
crazy video
This is my favorite series of videos EVER! Love your videos!
Dude!! TheThings literally stole your video! Do something!!!
Love all the hard work, only gripe that i got is that the music is the same on every video and on repeat for the whole time 🤷🏻♀️😎 still great work and I thank you for taking the time to put em together
Found you from "The Things" and decided to follow you instead. 😁 hope you don't mind! Lol
I’m Chinese and we actually studied the poem when we were younger. This is how the original Chinese version goes:
唧唧復唧唧，木蘭當戶織。
不聞機杼聲，唯聞女歎息。
問女何所思，問女何所憶。
女亦無所思，女亦無所憶。
昨夜見軍帖，可汗大點兵。
軍書十二卷，卷卷有爺名。
阿爺無大兒，木蘭無長兄。
願為市鞍馬，從此替爺征。
東市買駿馬，西市買鞍韉。
南市買轡頭，北市買長鞭。
旦辭爺娘去，暮宿黃河邊。(btw the river she camped at was the Huang He)
不聞爺娘喚女聲，但聞黃河流水鳴濺濺。(this part you didn’t mention is how her parents cried for their daughter’s return)
旦辭黃河去，暮宿黑山頭。
不聞爺娘喚女聲，但聞燕山胡騎聲啾啾。
萬里赴戎機，關山度若飛。(it’s not as simple as just one sentence but this part descriptively describes the wars she’s had)
朔氣傳金柝，寒光照鐵衣。
將軍百戰死，壯士十年歸。
歸來見天子，天子坐明堂。
策勳十二轉，賞賜百千強。
可汗問所欲，木蘭不用尚書郎。
願借明駝千里足，送兒還故鄉。
爺娘聞女來，出郭相扶將。
阿姊聞妹來，當戶理紅妝。
小弟聞姊來，磨刀霍霍向豬羊。
開我東閣門，坐我西閣床。
脫我戰時袍，著我舊時裳。
當窗理雲鬢，對鏡帖花黃。
出門看火伴，火伴皆驚惶。
同行十二年，不知木蘭是女郎。
雄兔腳撲朔，雌兔眼迷離。
雙兔傍地走，安能辨我是雄雌。
Idk if that’s helpful or not but it’s just a really nice poem and I really like it and I’ve had it proudly memorised since fifth grade :) but honestly it’s just weird hearing you say the translated version lol. Nice video and I’m glad that you’ve shared this Chinese culture.
LETS GET DOWN TO BUSINESS
*TO DESTROY*
YOUR CHILDHOOD
I love fairy tales so when I came across your videos (two years ago) I was intrigued. You are a handsome guy and a great story teller ;) love watching you!
Can you do one on jasmine?
Did you know she was originally Chinese?
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/Aladdin
Loved this one man! Thanks for interacting with fans on twitter. 👊🏼
Mulan was based on a story of a princess in china...who fought because her father was killed by a hian in the act of war... this was before the Great Wall was actually fully built...
So I want to correct some bad translation of original Mulan ballad.
In the original story or poem, she does not have actually brother or sister. This bad interpretation of that comes from when she returns to the village.
"When Elder Sister hears of Mulan’s return,
she stands in the doorway wearing a beautiful dress
When Little Brother hears that his sister has returned,
He sharpens his knife to slaughter a pig and a lamb.”
Brother and sister in this context are best friends in the village from where she from. These are not immediate blood relatives.
Because in China we call all close friends our brother and sister even for close cousins.
So this can be miss interpreted into immediate blood family when translated to English.
The different markets represent the God's or such of the north,south,east,and west. There's dragons and things. So yeah.
I love your videos!!! Iv watched like 3 videos about the true stories!!! I SUBSCRIBED MAN!!!YOU DESERVE IT!!!
Sit back, relax, hit that like button, and BE A MAN! Love that song!
Hi I'm a new subscriber!!! I am addicted to your amazing content, especially the messed up origins!!!
Pocahantas?
Totally agree
Lucky Sugar yass
Lucky Sugar Pocahontas was here nickname it meant playful one and she was like 12 and she and John smith had a father daughter relationship then she was send to England years later where she feel in love and dies giving birth to an English colonist son
So yeah
Vintage Couture I read somewhere she was 8 when she met John Smith
The greatest training montage created
👏🏼👏🏻👏🏾👏🏽👏🏿
Found this channel from Seamus Gorman who spoke about how The Things (another RUclips channel) are stealing other RUclipsrs theories/ videos, they are only changing their videos slightly.
Point is is that I just wanted to shout that out because I want people to know, if your subscribed please unsub, Ive watched a few of their vids, and honestly as well as mis informing people, the videos themselves arent even that good.
Their was an *interesting* take on Mulan, I saw on YT some time back. It was in Japanese and she was no fighter, she was an tapestry weaver - wow! I tried to find it again but haven't been able to thus far.
I thought she killed herself in the original
Aidan sucks at games there is a story about that
Aidan sucks at games if I’m correct it is assumed that after returning from war she was to be married but her husband to be died and she followed him into the afterlife. However the alternate version is that she didn’t want to be married and when she tried to run away she was killed this the idea that she “killed her sled” by sealing her fate.
She fought for her father’s sake, but when she returned her father was dead and mother remarried. Her mother remarried a wealthy man, and he offered Mulan to become one of his concubines. Mulan would rather die than live with him, so she killed herself.
She come back from the war only to find her father is pass away. King Khan i think his name is force her to marry him. Not sure what happen in between but she killed herself afterwards.
Blind Babbler I'm Chinese and I've never in my life heard of your version of the story. If it was written by someone it would not be written within a thousand years after the ballad of Mulan
Dude you just have such a calming voice..
Do Pocahontas
Love the vids keep up the amazing work as always