3.24.2 Roadmap Roundup October - Get used to disappointment

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  • Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2024

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  • @Camural
    @Camural  2 дня назад +4

    Roadmap Roundup 30th of October 2024: robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/20252-Roadmap-Roundup-October-30-2024

  • @mabs9503
    @mabs9503 День назад +61

    I can't believe the one thing they ever actually managed to deliver on time and as described was freaking Master Modes.

    • @Casey093
      @Casey093 День назад +30

      The gift that everybody hates... THAT, they could deliver.

    • @hamitron
      @hamitron День назад +6

      @@mabs9503 but it doesn't include proper flight mechanics yet, so missing so much detail....

    • @HardMode..
      @HardMode.. День назад +3

      unfortunately

    • @SolarWindsRider
      @SolarWindsRider День назад +6

      master modes was a copy-paste from SQ42. And even that took them several months to do.

    • @altostratus9342
      @altostratus9342 День назад +3

      @@SolarWindsRider Importing things from SQ42 is what's making Star Citizen look like an arcady console game instead of a space sim.

  • @Lambonights
    @Lambonights День назад +59

    The inflection point got deflected......

    • @altostratus9342
      @altostratus9342 День назад +1

      ...and nobody should be surprised about that

    • @Lambonights
      @Lambonights День назад +1

      @@altostratus9342 Indeed.

  • @UAF_ViVi
    @UAF_ViVi День назад +38

    4.0 is like what.. 8 years late and they still gut the living crap out of it.

    • @Camural
      @Camural  День назад +3

      @UAF_ViVi 4.0 is roughly 7 years too late by now.

    • @19iason19
      @19iason19 10 часов назад

      @@Camuralhow do you calculate this? I want to believe your point but can we the 4.0 plans years ago compare to 4.0 today?

  • @briane4975
    @briane4975 День назад +29

    I logged in with the new patch got my armor and guns, went to buy ammo. Walked out of store and just decided I was done. Logged out. Didn't feel like putting in the time at A18 to get to spaceport and Fly ship somewhere. Eventually I'll do it.

    • @Tekjive
      @Tekjive День назад +3

      Same bro, logged in today, flew my loaner Zeus, cuz the MR is years away :/ flew to one BH mission, logged off in ship, just don’t feel like doing everything I’ve already done 100’s of times prior …content and bugs, how is this that hard …o wait there’s no money in that

    • @ThomasD66
      @ThomasD66 День назад +4

      Haven't logged on since June, just don't have the heart to keep doing the same crap over and over again

  • @fromadhdtodndtomtg
    @fromadhdtodndtomtg День назад +22

    My cheap 2 cents: if they can't figure out server meshing... nothing else matters. If they can't figure out how to maintain a server... then this "game" will never, ever appear.

    • @starbuck5728
      @starbuck5728 День назад +4

      It's not 2 cents. It's almost 800 million. But yes, if server meshing is not working we have no game because it's CR's dream. Btw before PES was introduced server performance was better and the game was actually playable. Can we have that back? No! Because it's not the dream.

  • @N1ghtR1der666
    @N1ghtR1der666 День назад +20

    Honestly expecting anything else at this point would be the crazy part

  • @JagHiroshi
    @JagHiroshi День назад +10

    No surprises there. I was most upset at the thought of the Hornet MK2 Tracker ... after a decade of the MK1 have absolutely no gameplay. Amazing.

  • @rhinous1199
    @rhinous1199 День назад +11

    Welcome to the Verse! Now buy more ships!

  • @arelentlessstudent
    @arelentlessstudent День назад +6

    CIG: Overselling and under-delivering since 2942.

  • @WeekendWarriorLegend
    @WeekendWarriorLegend День назад +7

    I'll get used to not supporting this project instead.
    Hahaha, I predict SC 1.0 will only include one of the other 3 systems and absolutely none of what they said 2 weeks ago that they would need to consider it 1.0, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME announcing things with PowerPoint slides that are 1,000 times(!) bigger, better and more ambitious than ever before. By then, CIG will no longer consist of just entry-level professionals, but of students leading teams of elementary school pupils who will explain us why a PC release was never their intention and that consoles are the future.
    Don't act surprised when that happens!

  • @avon_c6199
    @avon_c6199 День назад +12

    Chris was very clever in his wording back then with "it is our intention" and "hopefully", so he can now point towards it and claim "I never promised you that this will 100% be in the game by that point".

    • @Camural
      @Camural  День назад +16

      @avon_c6199 I didn't think he wording was clever, his wording makes his words have no meaning.
      One cannot promises the world but in the next sentence say: "I am not making a 100% promise"
      Chris' word is as hollow and meaningless as it can be.

    • @hamitron
      @hamitron День назад

      @@Camural There is only so much technically correct"clever" speech someone can project, till those listening find it tiresome.

    • @rolinthor
      @rolinthor День назад +7

      It's not clever. It's just dishonest--the equivalent of telling a patent falsehood while crossing your fingers behind your back. They want the positive vibes of a deadline that seems clear when you hear it live. They want all their RUclipsrs and streamers to make videos with headlines saying "Coming in 12 Months!" (with the full context only briefly mentioned or even left out entirely in the video).

    • @NoxiousButtSpray
      @NoxiousButtSpray День назад

      Just like how Chris and the entire team are "confident" that backers will play Sq404 in 2026.

    • @agonyaunt6325
      @agonyaunt6325 День назад +2

      And the faithful will always point out they never promised anything. But after all these years of failure to deliver on those non-promises, it should be quite clear to anyone that CIG's "plans" aren't worth shit and there is zero reason to get hyped about anything they say.

  • @doctorno3912
    @doctorno3912 День назад +9

    I got sus on his shit around the time cig were talking about the 600i rework with the med bed and the ability to claim lost paid for items.
    So glad I haven't given cig a single dollar since then. Bullshit ontop of Bullshit and not a single word can be trusted.

  • @friendlyspacedragon7250
    @friendlyspacedragon7250 День назад +15

    The good thing about engineering being gone is that we don't get another mistake modes system to frustrate players with something that sounds appropriate on paper but just serves to be a nuisance in the real game.

    • @Camural
      @Camural  День назад +14

      @friendlyspacedragon7250 oh I am sure, engineering game play will be tedious and no fun.
      Running around in the ship and replacing fuses etc.
      BTW: Right now everyone who sneaks into your ship an just steal the fuses that are in the open, not protected at all.

  • @GTOOtt
    @GTOOtt День назад +7

    "Get used to disappointment"
    We play Start Citizen, that's a given.

  • @Biggerfoot
    @Biggerfoot День назад +7

    There just changing the log numbers and saying they added features they did not so they can’t get sued for defrauding investors even tho that’s actually what they are doing is defrauding there investors

  • @fierox88
    @fierox88 День назад +5

    Its like they are allergic to addding actual gameplay. Pyro now looks like a second reshuffeled Stanton. I think thats why they chaged the skymap earlier, as an easy way to make the systems look different from each other. 2024 for me: server meshing testing and the ruination of spacefllight (low speeds + MM).

    • @RN1441
      @RN1441 День назад +2

      Yeah, wrecking the skyboxes with soupy coloured blur seems to be a low skill way of differentiating systems while also limiting pop in problems that their cursed engine has.

  • @tafferinthedark
    @tafferinthedark День назад +7

    I love how you can see Chris making so many pauses thinking really hard on phrasing that hypes the community to get money, but leaving space for plausible deniability later. hahaha
    It's disgusting, I wish the community stopped pretending it isn't.

  • @findingretirement6649
    @findingretirement6649 День назад +8

    In 2023 revenue was barely up from 2022 and it looks like unless CIG scores some huge sales numbers between now and the end of the year revenue will drop in 2024. I hope this is not the beginning of the end. Chris might have squandered his chance to win over continued funding from the gaming community with to many unfulfilled promises and a game that is still for the most part unplayable most of the time or all of the time in one from or another.

  • @thenegociater3387
    @thenegociater3387 День назад +4

    I really held myself back from purchasing a new cool ship a year ago, promising myself to wait until real progress was delivered. I’m vindicated to date.

    • @RN1441
      @RN1441 День назад

      I closed my wallet in 2014 when they decided to skip the first SQ42 beta deadline so as to not reward bait and switch until they came through on that. Goodness that decision has aged well as their famous vote about getting more and better soon aged like fine milk and it's just been one bait and switch after another since then.

  • @killerbees1199
    @killerbees1199 День назад +4

    Chris Roberts doesn't know how to make videogames. I think he loves designing them and creating parts of them, but doesn't know anything beyond that. He's like a rich genius who makes amazing custom airplanes one bolt at a time reinventing each bolt

    • @heru_ur6017
      @heru_ur6017 День назад +5

      He is and will always be a Movie Director. A crooked one at best.

  • @SRSR-pc8ti
    @SRSR-pc8ti День назад +11

    Fix stability, performance and reliability of SC before adding any new features.

    • @hamitron
      @hamitron День назад +1

      If it is to be considered an end product I agree.
      If it is considered an active development environment, I guess it is fine having periods of instability.
      I do feel it should be considered the end product at this stage, with everything taking so long and players playing something CIG claim is delivered.

  • @the_babbleboom
    @the_babbleboom День назад +5

    it seems the most critical players care more about the games success than CIG (/CR) does who's actually doing all those missteps.

  • @scottthompson7332
    @scottthompson7332 День назад +4

    Unfortunately, this will fail with Chris at the helm.

  • @vulcan4d
    @vulcan4d 15 часов назад +1

    Server meshing was never done for the purpose of gaming. No doubt it was the most difficult thing to do, more, than they expected. It does look like it is progressing but now everything else needs to catch up. They can do it....with time.

  • @What3v3a
    @What3v3a 11 часов назад +2

    My wallet has been closed to CIG since November 2023, I cancelled my subscription and won't be giving CIG anymore funding. I won't be taking part in free product testing (aka evocati), and I won't be promoting the game. I was never someone who "drank the cool aid" so to speak, but I had high hopes that they could achieve some of what was laid out, at the moment I do not have confidence they can achieve half of what was intended and I believe that Chris is incapable of managing the company. His ego and ambition outweighs his technical knowhow and aptitude.

  • @SolarWindsRider
    @SolarWindsRider День назад +2

    1.0 is around the corner. It's just that this corner is on Mars)

  • @emcmanamna
    @emcmanamna 21 час назад +1

    CIG: Putting the con in CitizenCon.

  • @MadIIMike
    @MadIIMike 20 часов назад +1

    CIG's inflection points are "polish and finishing" and "rework" and they play pong with each other.
    Also, cutting things from a roadmap is fine, but if your ambitious systems are summarized in one liners and you even make seperate points for "fire hazard" and "fire extinguisher" then there's really not that much to cut from, is there?

  • @spicyhunter0734
    @spicyhunter0734 День назад

    Speculative inflection point! Some people don't understand that while server meshing is important, there needs to be gameplay features to support having more players and more star systems. Otherwise, all we're just getting stanton +

  • @eoconnor2000
    @eoconnor2000 5 часов назад +1

    It comes down to focus. CIGs primary focus is ship sales. The game is an after thought. I have really tried to play the new content (Master Modes , new inventory sytem etc) and given up as well out of bordom and frustration. It seems like if anything is fun it is nerfed or changed and not for the better. Many content creators continue to give the game a pass instead of telling their audiences the truth like yourself - keep up the good work. You are correct we need to vote for our wallets. All effort is now on IAE and the ship sales to come. Backers need to remember the redeemer , the galaxy and the Corsair when those pretty pictures make us reach for our wallets. Otherwise we are telling Chris we are willing to pay anything for a big ship and nothing to do.

  • @BGIANAKy
    @BGIANAKy День назад +4

    Camural, in 2023’s citcon. Did you also, like me, believe CIG? That they would make good on the things they hinted to fully promising? That we would get SQ42 released in 2024?
    I went from completely white knighting them to being done with their nonsense.

    • @XeroJin84
      @XeroJin84 День назад +3

      I’ve learned in the past not to trust what they say and to see what they do. I’m pretty sure my daughter will at least be in high school when/if Star Citizen 1.0 happens. She wasn’t even conceived when I put in money for the project. lol
      Fool me once, shame on them. Fool me twice shame on me; but still shame on them.

    • @heru_ur6017
      @heru_ur6017 День назад +6

      Everybody eventually sees what they really stand for.
      Unfortunatly they have enough streamers on their payroll to feed them an endless supply of new unknowing victims.

  • @JazzDNL
    @JazzDNL День назад +1

    They probably want to push 4.0 for IAE, to draw in new players with the free flight? Even their hotfix patch is unplayable server error after server error after .......... ah well you get the picture :)

  • @anonamos6086
    @anonamos6086 День назад +6

    They released a build so terrible that they had to go back an entire patch. I’ve never seen that before.

  • @antimate3386
    @antimate3386 День назад +4

    Did you guys catch what Knebel (largest German SC streamer) said? He's actually HAPPY that CIG cut 4.0 for mechanics and content. What the hell is wrong with this community?

    • @heru_ur6017
      @heru_ur6017 День назад +9

      @@antimate3386 they are in essence paid advertisers, they bring in new money and cig rewards them with ships, which they then "gift" to their subcribers, who have to pay them to subscribe. Nice little grift.

    • @Camural
      @Camural  День назад +8

      @antimate3386 I don't give anything about the Shills, I don't watch their content.
      The Shills are not interested in Star Citizen. The Shills are only interested in how much money they can make on RUclips and from their sponsored content and getting free ships/money from CIG.
      Making Shill content is easy, they just to use CIG's videos and talk to their viewers how fantastic everything is and what great things are coming to Star Citizen soon.

    • @TheLobstersoup
      @TheLobstersoup День назад +4

      @@Camural These people live off their community more than off CIG, so it is actually in their interest that development goes on forever. It's going to help them grow their community. They just have to keep doing the same stuff, so it doesn't rly matter what CIG does or doesn't do.

    • @eoconnor2000
      @eoconnor2000 5 часов назад

      @@TheLobstersoup Also when there is controversy it creates more content. How many videos have been made over the Redeemer, Corsair and especially the Galaxy. Citizencon was just a whole bunch of more promises in order to spur content.

  • @derjadebaum9159
    @derjadebaum9159 День назад +2

    Maybe I'm the only one, but I think the promises for 4.0 were already underwhelming.
    In addition to the ongoing delays.
    And now they even cut the already watered down goals for 4.0.
    Incredible, but cultists things remain cultists things.

  • @brianfury9790
    @brianfury9790 День назад +1

    The inflection point is speculative.

  • @tequila6955
    @tequila6955 День назад +2

    Chris can't even get one system to work. No working game Chris, no money for you.

  • @jamesg6323
    @jamesg6323 8 часов назад

    They reached the speculation point.

  •  День назад

    I don't think he'll ever leave the control of the project to someone else, and that'll probably the doom of it.
    That is, unless investors force it down on him in exchange for a monetary rescue.

  • @stuartburns8657
    @stuartburns8657 День назад +3

    Can anybody list what they've announced, which has both been as described and on time?
    Anybody?

    • @antimate3386
      @antimate3386 День назад +1

      concept sales

    • @sublimehypocrisy
      @sublimehypocrisy День назад +1

      Master Modes...

    • @stuartburns8657
      @stuartburns8657 День назад

      @sublimehypocrisy I've heard different, but I'll take you word and say that's the exception that proves the rule :)

  • @sevn6
    @sevn6 День назад +1

    Still early days boys! Relax

  • @porkorosso7885
    @porkorosso7885 2 часа назад

    Totally agree!

  • @MikePhilbin1966
    @MikePhilbin1966 День назад

    Several... one or two i.e. not SEVEN... which includes THE ESSENTIAL transit refactor. :)

  • @louieavi
    @louieavi День назад

    I put my tail between my legs and upgraded my C1 to the Conni Taurus. After my second ride (3.24.2) I died in the cockpit for some unknown reason and not cant get to my hanger with "We are not able to hand your request at this time" which I had the same error throughout 3.24.1. So frustrating.

  • @Tael71
    @Tael71 День назад

    Question, why was solar burst removed, we had it in Pyro already.. So it worked, just needed to be toned down on frequency...

    • @Camural
      @Camural  День назад +1

      @Tael71 good question. We had solar flares in the tech preview channel last December already.

  • @blacksheepboyz
    @blacksheepboyz День назад

    Epic deflection point

  • @Flax968
    @Flax968 День назад +2

    New patch is broken since citizencon.. and stil dropping my hotdog if i want to eat them

  • @jackreacher007
    @jackreacher007 День назад

    He didn't say whether the curve was going up or down after the "inflection point". Can't say that he's lying!

  • @Power5
    @Power5 День назад +1

    I thought the solar bursts were already in the game. Seen people affected by it in the play tests of Pyro.

    • @Camural
      @Camural  День назад +1

      @Power5 solar bursts were already in the tech preview at the end of 2023.

  • @RedDwarf1
    @RedDwarf1 День назад

    Yep!

  • @xiuhtezcatl8161
    @xiuhtezcatl8161 День назад +1

    deadscam

  • @Sutex0sofar
    @Sutex0sofar День назад +1

    I disliked merry-go-rounds; all you do is go around and around and up and down really slowly. :)

  • @EvilBratwurst
    @EvilBratwurst День назад +1

    theres another "feature" missing.
    Me as a supporter who spends money on SC? Gone.

  • @jamesg6323
    @jamesg6323 8 часов назад

    Just think of all the ISC and SCL videos and write ups they produced in 2024 about all the stuff now not coming in 4.0 and Pyro, what an absolute waste of time and funding😬

  • @oOAendy
    @oOAendy День назад

    Well.. "alot" of features.. fine not all.. but yea.. he never changes with half empty promises..

  • @spaceman221
    @spaceman221 День назад

    What i don't understand the most is why they dropped solar bursts from 4.0 since that is literally pyro's big selling point besides it being the pirate system. It was working way back when they were doing early pyro ptus so wtf happened to it?

    • @sublimehypocrisy
      @sublimehypocrisy День назад

      They probably only made it work with specific ships and left a large number of ships without mechanics to make solar flares affect them.

  • @DevilbyMoonlight
    @DevilbyMoonlight День назад

    Am I the only one that notices the PU turns to shit when the PTU and or the EPTU are running?? last night was one of the worst.

  • @DrunkenCitizen
    @DrunkenCitizen День назад +1

    So it sounds like a lot of tedious distractions won't make it into 4.0. which sounds nice as they didn't really add to the game so much as make it tedious and annoying. Maybe they will provide real game play before adding the stupid stuff?

  • @Eagle6Airsoft
    @Eagle6Airsoft День назад

    Roadmap to a gutted and empty 1.0
    Luckily it will all come in future patches. Right ?

  • @Dirigius
    @Dirigius День назад

    Can vehicles spawn from freight elevators yet?

  • @Atheica-Atheismos
    @Atheica-Atheismos 18 часов назад

    Chris "Star Liar" Roberts... same lies as allways.

  • @dirkk.6573
    @dirkk.6573 День назад

    This m............... How can someone lie so blatantly!

  • @Icarus_789
    @Icarus_789 22 часа назад

    this project is just a constant disappointments and i am not surprised

  • @michaelmacdonell4834
    @michaelmacdonell4834 День назад

    Not sure if you are being ironic - in a way that completely changes the tone and the tenor of the rest of your video - by choosing the most positive film character ever as your thumbnail picture. Oddball is the most Tao individual ever. Disappointment didn't happen to him at all. And he was correct - "we don't need any of these negative waves"

  • @screaminginsilence6560
    @screaminginsilence6560 День назад

    but they made videos!

  • @Unknown_Calrissian
    @Unknown_Calrissian День назад

    😂😂😂😂😂

  • @bartasbxx
    @bartasbxx День назад

    So they remove functionality to reduce bandwidth. How could they ever have NPC AI or any working AI without instancing? :D

    • @jackinthebox301
      @jackinthebox301 День назад

      Engineering bandwidth. They're saying they don't have enough software engineers to support releasing all the features at the same time. 1000+ employees at a video game studio and they don't have enough coders?

    • @Camural
      @Camural  День назад +2

      @jackinthebox301 CIG has around 100 people working in marketing alone.
      CIG has a lots of artists, making all the eye candy and cool cinematic for Chris.
      CIG doesn't have many experienced good coders and not enough software engineers.
      CIG also has a lot of young and inexperienced people, because this is what you get when you pay below industry standard.

    • @bartasbxx
      @bartasbxx День назад

      @@jackinthebox301 That's not what they mean when they say bandwidth. Is about how all that would effect the server performance. All those extra things the server would have to keep track of and send to players would kill the servers. That's why the NPC crew isn't possible to do and that's why instanced content become a thing they are now going to do. They cannot do it the way they pitched it. But it's okay because at least this way we might get a game one day.

    • @jackinthebox301
      @jackinthebox301 День назад

      @@bartasbxx Sorry, mate, you're not right on this one. They absolutely mean the number of people available to fix bugs. The engineering focus is on Server Meshing and having to support all the other features that were supposed to be in 4.0 would slow down the fixes for it.

    • @jackinthebox301
      @jackinthebox301 День назад

      @@Camural I've never heard the 100 people in marketing figure before. If that's accurate that is a GIANT waste of backer funds. 100 people is upwards of $10 million per year in workers compensation. Outrageous.

  • @blacksheepboyz
    @blacksheepboyz День назад

    Gone(tm)

  • @astralnut6313
    @astralnut6313 День назад

    If you complain on spectrum you get banned

  • @TheAngriestGamer.
    @TheAngriestGamer. День назад +6

    i hate engineering and fire fighting. so im glad they are gone and hope they wont come back.
    replacing fuzes and fighting spreading fires mid combat does NOT sound fun.

    • @Power5
      @Power5 День назад +2

      Fires sound good in concept. But the fact that our space ships that are made of futuristic metal will be burning is non sensical. Or maybe in the infinite wisdom of ship manufacturing the companies made the interior walls of the crusader hercules series from flammable material. Some of them are only military transport ships, so why would something doing hot drops in combat zones need to be fire resistant?

    • @TheAngriestGamer.
      @TheAngriestGamer. День назад +4

      @@Power5 why arent their automated fire suppression systems? why cant we just vent compartments?
      but to top it all of. it doesnt sound fun or particle to be doing that mid battle the enemy is just going to keep blasting you. + theirs no way to recharge fire extinguishers, or repair damage so whats the point of all this junk? and replacing fuzes is the dumbest most boring thing i have ever seen.

    • @Power5
      @Power5 День назад

      Agree on the fuses. We already have components to change out, fuses make zero sense. As for fires, besides catching the walls and floors on fire, I could see an engine room being enflamed during battle. This happens on our boats today, just ask the NZ navy chick who ran an ocean floor mapping boat into a reef that was on the ocean floor. Enemy doesn't give a time out because they may have caused a fire.
      Also fire extinguishers will recharge on their holder so long as life support is functioning. At least that is what I remember hearing during that talk.

    • @eoconnor2000
      @eoconnor2000 5 часов назад +2

      The sad thing is they are pushing multiplayer gameplay on larger ships and removing anything that would make that gameplay remotely interesting. Why would I want to be a player on someone else's ship when I can buy my own ship and be the captain. OH! thats the point.