First 1x35 exp rate, then onslaught ultra grind, and now tank for gold... Hm i see a pattern here. But i dont see any news maps, or any steps to make game better.
haha, just compare it with Kpz 07 RH! Kpz constantly can go up to 70 km/h using turbo. The only drawback is 200 damage per shot, but it's compensated by overall DPM and all other values of gun like accuracy, stabilization, aim time and etc. So I think the Kpz 07 RH is much more interesting.
yeah but the kpz is arguably the best tier 8 medium in the game, its pretty broken. This new CS 52 C clearly isnt and that is a positive. Broken prem tanks are a problem
Slightly disappointed that skill did not explore HE shell of this tank. Sure 53mm pen is a bit low, but 410 alpha is so good. For the first game, T92, Bourrasque and Skorpion were all easy targets. Hopefully, skill's later videos will cover this aspect.
I was thinking this as well, scorpion and did't slap a he on it, there were other light tanks buzzing around as well. You don't get all your shots in, but there was no coverage of that part.
Turbo is going to give those speedgrinders the perfect setup to set new records of game over timing on T8, it can go into position quick but it sacrifices too much for it. Still its great to see WG can sell stuff without using lootboxes
People were complaining that LIS doesnt have the same mechanics like tech tree tier X, which basically should be the selling point of the vehicle, so here we go :D After how much time? xD
Dunno man, seems to chew through too many gold ammo for Frontline to be properly profitable. Kinda defeats the point, atleast for me. Maybe if used like once or twice a game at right times.
@rintsi5689 I understand the pen on the standard rounds are meh, but you just gotta be selective in your targets. The maps are huge so there are opportunities to change flanks if you can't make the tank work without having to shoot premium rounds. For the amount of damage out put (250 per shot) for the cost of premium rounds, I can see it not being beneficial as you are pointing out.
@@RyanDyalRealEstate every now and then there is a assembly shop event. Those events mean that you spend a lot of your in game resources to get a tier X tank. For example the Lion and obj 452K. The cheapest way of getting those event tanks is spending free xp which of course cost gold to convert your earned xp on tanks to free xp. So if now wargaming is selling a tank for gold in the shop they make you spend your gold that you already have in your account. So if such a event happens in the nearby future because we are not certain you buy this tank that is extra gold you have to buy to be able to convert xp to free xp if such an event happens in the nearby future
No armor... Low alpha... Speed mode to rush infront with out any support... The bzzz drivers going to love meeting this thing. Or borats double slaping auto aim 700.
I am glad how Wg introduced the tank, however it will have a hard time with competitors on its tier. While on X the CS-63 has its unique advantages, here the power/weight ratio is just good amongst others and apart from nice heat penetration and low silhouette other stats look meh. For randoms? Lack of armour and the fact that gold ammo is much better than standard will be a problem to gain credits. For clan battles? There are better alternatives that will diminish its purpose (imo kampfpanzer 07RH is much better combination of stats), but it is gonna have its niche in the game for sure.
High speed, good camo, high HE dmg…it is heavy with good ramming potential. Sounds like an anti-scout tank that can take early positions. Many games have 3 lights so I know how I will try to use it.
I went and purchased it. 1st battle with 3591 raw dmg, 3 kills. 1262 base exp and Ace. I rush to light tank spots and just beat the sht out of the enemy lights rushing to the same position.
Personally i love this thing, Its fun and hard to play, not broken and you feel accomplished when you perform well, been getting like 3k~ or so average on it, also fun on the new game mode! Using tier 3 mobility improvement, optics and rammer & for second setup vents, stabs, aiming device and it has worked out for me. Good vid as always skill ^^
Upgrade the alpha to 300 for the AP to match the CS-44's gun (that's what this thing uses anyway) and a buff to mobility outside of the turbo mode and it would be more confortable to play. Right now it's crippled intentionaly just to force the usage of the turbo mode and counter light tanks with the puny alpha but good ramming ability!
Dear Skill. I just watched your video about the CS-52 C. Thank you for that. I have one more question: What is that great music that I get to hear at the end of your videos?
Thumbs up for not having to spend money on loot boxes to get a new premium tank. If folk dont have tonnes of resources, or can’t afford to spend £100/£150, to guarantee a specific tank in loot boxes, it’s not ideal for the majority of players, so being able to get it with gold is a plus for me! As for the tank, it seems to be a fairly average tank (prob why they are selling it through gold rather than loot boxes). I mean it isn’t OP and it also doesn’t seem like a bad tank. Then again a good player like skillz can make bad tanks look good, then a below average player like me tries it and sucks lol. I just hope they give others a chance of more premium tanks, rather than people with lots of resources or lots of money that can throw it at loot boxes.
The alpha is making the tank a worse shell shell spitter. And the only way to get decent damage is to spam HE at the weakest spot. The alpha needs to be at 280 minimum. Which that would make it much better than it is now. Sure, I don't mind for it to have better view range. It's just the alpha being too low for what it is.
Do you think offering it for gold in the game is to drain currency leading up to the next Assembly shop? Any ideas what the summer Assembly shop tank might be?
@@jeremyts9032 that was the point of my comment, these 2 that replied I don't know why are they like this, how fast can you earn 8k gold in game as an average player. I bet you cant
Most stats are average on this tank. No armor, mediocre dpm (Lets not pretend its "bad" cause it isnt kpz standards.) and below avg dispersion to snipe from long ranges. It has some overlooked things like above avg shell velocity, great heat pen, near top of it's tier camo rating and high He damage for it's calibre. You gotta give up some stats to get a turbo mode to get into your favorite bush quickly before getting spottted on the way there.
@@MaWe263 so you're playing only with gold every game and gaining credits also? how does this work? 1 gold ammo costs like 4-5k? and you do not get 4-5k credits in a game for hitting 1 shot? can you explain the math to me
Aiming unit *might* be more useful, but that's pretty much if you're exclusively sniping. If you want to be able to play more aggressive positions, Vstabs is helpful for considerably reducing your exposure time (because a reduction in bloom is effectively a reduction in time to aim), because the tank's armor is only enough to have the occasional lucky bounce. A 5-9% dispersion buff isn't bad per se, but a 20-27.5% reduction in bloom makes snapshots far more feasible, which helps with connecting shots before the enemy can hit you back.
Since this tank can be bought for gold, what do y'all want to bet you can get this tank with a trade-in when that becomes available? Nice perk I think!
wauw they have time to earn money and come out with new things.. just not time to fix that stupid battlepass window bug. they are claiming they are working on it....
250 alpha at tier 8 in 2024, nope.
Yup, i don't even look at tanks that don't have minimum 320 alpha.
I personally don't care I would prefer if they would go back to lower alphas
T-44 cry inside now hehe 😂
You didn't look at the HE...This tank screams anti LT.
Higher DPM with a touch better gun handling and I'd say its worth picking up.
perfect tank to speedrun to the garage.
Or Hp donator:)
Crazy how they put the seige mode that should have been on all polish tier 8s and 9s but hey why not put it in the premium
in lesta wargaming ru put speed mode to 8 and 9 tree tank
@@skuli8761 Wait, what ? On the RU server, tier 8 and 9 tech tree med have the turbo mode ?
@@yanickgenest1324 next patch will have
@@yanickgenest1324 yep. they buff it also.
CS-52 C ... and the C stands for Credits ^^
No the C means C(rap). 😮
c stands for copro
Players "New maps, fix the MM!"
WG: "The solution: another premium tank"
Players "Oh well..."
Fine I'll do it myself >l:(
They could just put the "improved" ones back to how they were to start IE mountain pass.
MM is fine
@@VirtualLunacy good joke
First 1x35 exp rate, then onslaught ultra grind, and now tank for gold... Hm i see a pattern here. But i dont see any news maps, or any steps to make game better.
Maybe they need to make a map that looks like a wallet.
@@skorpion7132 Thats a great new idea for WG to start selling maps!
haha, just compare it with Kpz 07 RH! Kpz constantly can go up to 70 km/h using turbo. The only drawback is 200 damage per shot, but it's compensated by overall DPM and all other values of gun like accuracy, stabilization, aim time and etc.
So I think the Kpz 07 RH is much more interesting.
Can you buy kpz for gold? Yeah... Different class of tanks.
@@lucidnonsense942gameplay is more important comparison for tank strengths than price
yeah but the kpz is arguably the best tier 8 medium in the game, its pretty broken. This new CS 52 C clearly isnt and that is a positive. Broken prem tanks are a problem
@@lucidnonsense942 nope, but it's still important for those who already own it
@@lucidnonsense942 i got kpz, caliban and 703 (II) for gold. 😄
Slightly disappointed that skill did not explore HE shell of this tank. Sure 53mm pen is a bit low, but 410 alpha is so good. For the first game, T92, Bourrasque and Skorpion were all easy targets. Hopefully, skill's later videos will cover this aspect.
50 HE pen is really low, often doesnt go in.
you need to take a look at Kpz 07 RH... it's better than this one mostly by all parameters except damage per shot
Kpz has 90 pen on he
I was thinking this as well, scorpion and did't slap a he on it, there were other light tanks buzzing around as well. You don't get all your shots in, but there was no coverage of that part.
@@youtubiak 53mm can actually pen much better than you think it can. IMO, 45mm is low which it is on most 90mm and lower guns.
Turbo is going to give those speedgrinders the perfect setup to set new records of game over timing on T8, it can go into position quick but it sacrifices too much for it. Still its great to see WG can sell stuff without using lootboxes
Why not use a Bourrasque for that purpose? As opposed to this "thing" the Bourrasque can actually hit things on the move.
People were complaining that LIS doesnt have the same mechanics like tech tree tier X, which basically should be the selling point of the vehicle, so here we go :D
After how much time? xD
I can see this tank having a strong role in the Frontline mode and perhaps this new Onslaught Light mode.
Dunno man, seems to chew through too many gold ammo for Frontline to be properly profitable. Kinda defeats the point, atleast for me.
Maybe if used like once or twice a game at right times.
@rintsi5689 I understand the pen on the standard rounds are meh, but you just gotta be selective in your targets. The maps are huge so there are opportunities to change flanks if you can't make the tank work without having to shoot premium rounds. For the amount of damage out put (250 per shot) for the cost of premium rounds, I can see it not being beneficial as you are pointing out.
That random dodge @ 11:00 was awesome
Ive done it a lot, just stay still when you know enemy is aiming then randomly move. Feels good
Skiiieeel, they also changed the image for big first aid kit and for the small aid kit. Its looking crispier now😂😂
If its sold for gold they probably want you to spend your gold for new assembly shop event
Explain this before I buy it I have gold left over from New Year
@@RyanDyalRealEstate every now and then there is a assembly shop event. Those events mean that you spend a lot of your in game resources to get a tier X tank. For example the Lion and obj 452K. The cheapest way of getting those event tanks is spending free xp which of course cost gold to convert your earned xp on tanks to free xp. So if now wargaming is selling a tank for gold in the shop they make you spend your gold that you already have in your account. So if such a event happens in the nearby future because we are not certain you buy this tank that is extra gold you have to buy to be able to convert xp to free xp if such an event happens in the nearby future
@@jobveldhuizen7089 Thank you for that. Maybe I will hold off on this one then. See what happens.
4:04 bro honestly I would like to hear it only for one minute haha
No armor... Low alpha... Speed mode to rush infront with out any support... The bzzz drivers going to love meeting this thing. Or borats double slaping auto aim 700.
This is obviously sold, just like the 3for2 bond equipment offer, because they will launch assembly hall / auction later.
I am glad how Wg introduced the tank, however it will have a hard time with competitors on its tier. While on X the CS-63 has its unique advantages, here the power/weight ratio is just good amongst others and apart from nice heat penetration and low silhouette other stats look meh.
For randoms? Lack of armour and the fact that gold ammo is much better than standard will be a problem to gain credits.
For clan battles? There are better alternatives that will diminish its purpose (imo kampfpanzer 07RH is much better combination of stats), but it is gonna have its niche in the game for sure.
High speed, good camo, high HE dmg…it is heavy with good ramming potential. Sounds like an anti-scout tank that can take early positions. Many games have 3 lights so I know how I will try to use it.
This looks loke the perfect prey for BZ176, just like the patton tank. 😂
Cheers!
I went and purchased it. 1st battle with 3591 raw dmg, 3 kills. 1262 base exp and Ace. I rush to light tank spots and just beat the sht out of the enemy lights rushing to the same position.
That speed seems insane, it is a bit annoying to see more medium going faster than a lot of light tanks... Bourrasque and now this one...
@@citizenoftheverse4653 I feel you broski! The difference here is that Borat can't ram :)
Left comment for us with your avg after 50 battles. Fitrst session is allways well
@@Vladyslav_Shevchenko 1st session is always well? What a weird remark about wot these days...
@@Scroofies IMO it needs to be 280 alpha. 250 is just way too weird for it to be in.
Did you already mention that - other than 52 LIS - CS-52 C has HEAT for premium ammo?
Personally i love this thing, Its fun and hard to play, not broken and you feel accomplished when you perform well, been getting like 3k~ or so average on it, also fun on the new game mode! Using tier 3 mobility improvement, optics and rammer & for second setup vents, stabs, aiming device and it has worked out for me. Good vid as always skill ^^
This tank would be better with 360 alpha damage
Upgrade the alpha to 300 for the AP to match the CS-44's gun (that's what this thing uses anyway) and a buff to mobility outside of the turbo mode and it would be more confortable to play.
Right now it's crippled intentionaly just to force the usage of the turbo mode and counter light tanks with the puny alpha but good ramming ability!
I would be fine if they would just buff the alpha to 280.
Dear Skill. I just watched your video about the CS-52 C. Thank you for that. I have one more question: What is that great music that I get to hear at the end of your videos?
Whenever an item for gold sale arrives then Assembly Shop is not far behind.
looks like the tech tree cs 52 just whit turbo mode and better turret.
hmm so assembly shop event close?
"Malibu Stacy has a new hat!"
Thumbs up for not having to spend money on loot boxes to get a new premium tank.
If folk dont have tonnes of resources, or can’t afford to spend £100/£150, to guarantee a specific tank in loot boxes, it’s not ideal for the majority of players, so being able to get it with gold is a plus for me!
As for the tank, it seems to be a fairly average tank (prob why they are selling it through gold rather than loot boxes). I mean it isn’t OP and it also doesn’t seem like a bad tank. Then again a good player like skillz can make bad tanks look good, then a below average player like me tries it and sucks lol.
I just hope they give others a chance of more premium tanks, rather than people with lots of resources or lots of money that can throw it at loot boxes.
The alpha is making the tank a worse shell shell spitter. And the only way to get decent damage is to spam HE at the weakest spot. The alpha needs to be at 280 minimum. Which that would make it much better than it is now. Sure, I don't mind for it to have better view range. It's just the alpha being too low for what it is.
In my version of WOT all guns behave exactly like this.
Another tank for collection, not for play mode.
What do you spect for WG ?????🤔
From WG
It's a war thunder style premium, showing off something different instead of better, which is good for the game
WG just want players to use their gold before the incoming Assembly shop
with speed it mihht be good for spotter
If it was ANY good, WG wouldn't dump it for gold
Do you think offering it for gold in the game is to drain currency leading up to the next Assembly shop? Any ideas what the summer Assembly shop tank might be?
He's a submarine, he's a SUBMARINE, He'S a SuBmArInE....!!!!
+-2 mm 250 alpha no armor 2.5 star for gun good luuck against +500 alpa premium and heavys
it can be an ebr hunter
what about new improved equipment deals...worth it? 20k bonds would be erased
This Tank so Good
Turbo mode. Not seige mode.
how is gold not real money, I don't understand?
You can earn gold in the game by competing in tournaments, from clan wars and referral program.
you can gain gold wihout buy it..
@@jk844100 that still does not make it not real money when you can literally buy gold with real money
It is, people say no because you can earn it but in reality most of the people get gold with real money.
@@jeremyts9032 that was the point of my comment, these 2 that replied I don't know why are they like this, how fast can you earn 8k gold in game as an average player. I bet you cant
Has a gun like PZ.SFL. IVC LoL 😂
How can there even be a question in pidgin brain about 250 alpha?
i think WG finaly listened to the players
Is that sarcasm?
@@pavelalex3258 yes
As long as is not OP or broken I think I could cross this one on the list
(Unless for personal reason 💀)
WG trying to loosen the king fu grip on our gold…
this gun should have better platform and gun handling than LIS
CS-52 C is alright, Nothing crazy but not bad
A new tank that isn't in a lootbox? Impossible.
Most stats are average on this tank. No armor, mediocre dpm (Lets not pretend its "bad" cause it isnt kpz standards.) and below avg dispersion to snipe from long ranges. It has some overlooked things like above avg shell velocity, great heat pen, near top of it's tier camo rating and high He damage for it's calibre.
You gotta give up some stats to get a turbo mode to get into your favorite bush quickly before getting spottted on the way there.
Last time i checked gold still costs money skill, unless you get it free like you do.
you only get into minus with credits, when you are trash.
@@MaWe263 so you're playing only with gold every game and gaining credits also? how does this work?
1 gold ammo costs like 4-5k? and you do not get 4-5k credits in a game for hitting 1 shot? can you explain the math to me
U can earn gold in the game by competing in tournaments, from clan wars and onlsaught also iirc
@@nicoladegani2257 but what about them lines that R so long Please ! putz
@@jgold2813 what?
I can't find it on the EU server. What is up with that??
The only good things about this tank is the HE pen and ramming light tanks. The gun handling is awful and the ammo rack gets penned every shot
Balanced tier 8 premium with decent mechanic for gold? What is WG doing? Where are the loot boxes and super tank?
This tank benefits more from aiming unit than stabs IMO, the gun doesn't bloom that much but base dispersion of .37 is horrible
Just install the reticle mod and keep stabs it's way better
@@quaydenthoma2965 The reticle mod doesn't improve your tank's accuracy, that would make it an illegal mod
Aiming unit *might* be more useful, but that's pretty much if you're exclusively sniping.
If you want to be able to play more aggressive positions, Vstabs is helpful for considerably reducing your exposure time (because a reduction in bloom is effectively a reduction in time to aim), because the tank's armor is only enough to have the occasional lucky bounce.
A 5-9% dispersion buff isn't bad per se, but a 20-27.5% reduction in bloom makes snapshots far more feasible, which helps with connecting shots before the enemy can hit you back.
reminds me more of a pz mutz
Seems to be a solid tank good balanced i have fun with it and still its no dumb op tank. And you can get it for gold only good work WG this time.
But skeeeel, you must've forgotten that Gold is harder to get nowadays lmao
Isn't it a bit early
How can you say going 50 without "siege" mode is "meh" lol
i believe this tank is simply for ramming lights and borats.
Balanced tank. Noice
"You are using a CS-52 C. It can be destroyed in 2 shots by a BZ176"
now that i got Lis they release her brother...
ty for review i dont have to buy it :D
Laughs in LIS
Since this tank can be bought for gold, what do y'all want to bet you can get this tank with a trade-in when that becomes available? Nice perk I think!
No armor, 250 alpha, average (at best) penetration and ofc shitty aimtime.. Unless it comes with a cloaking device I don't see it as a viable tank.
Skill? Where Kittita? Stop hiding the cat.
CS-52 C = Casual Striker 52 "Crap"
Full reward equipments, premium consumable, bad ass crew, and 2.15 aim? xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Call it 50 quid in real money because really who has that amount of gold sitting around.
This tank is far worse than CS-52 Lis, the only good thing is the siege mode (which also destroys your reticle while moving)
Well at least it isn't another bz. borrat, progetto... then again they are selling it for gold so why would it be?
type59 with turbo is much much better not gonna lie
65km/h
Not to mention pref, matchmaking.
Honestly feels like the game will shut down and now they just trying to get all the money they can.
Skieeeeel, Day 7 of asking for SU-122-44 video, its been 3 years, maybe it should be rerated??
Looks like even wargaming isn't ballsy enough to charge direct money for a tank with these low stats
Can't pen e100 or maus turret with that heat. Forget the others. Gl with t10 mm looks bad Man
its new sta
It looks better than the cs 53
I will stay with cs52-lis
Low accuracy, low pen, low DPM, low damage, no armour....
And they want 8k gold for this? Why, because it's fast? Nah...
What are you talking about? They are selling it for gold and not for money?! Only that 99,99% of the players buy gold with money.
Still too much gold in the game from XMas boxes.
I'd still rather play t-44-100 over this
10:24 - yeah... for 250 average dmg. Even my grandma slaps harder with her flp-flops lol xD
gsor 1010 better in terrain speed
i feel like you will hate this tank with passion
Image this think is same tier like BZ176….
How much gold does it cost?
wauw they have time to earn money and come out with new things.. just not time to fix that stupid battlepass window bug. they are claiming they are working on it....
siege mode?
250 alpha? fuck no
I would rather play borat
polnish midscout on tier 8 my definition :D no thanks wg :D