PCGS wants to watch the world burn. 🔥🤬 PCGS grading mistakes
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- Опубликовано: 22 апр 2023
- PCGS grading mistakes made on a recent order
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I just had the same thing happen to me .
Hey there. Just want to cheer with you
I got worse errors on my submissions✌️
@@ghaithalamro2747 I would like to hear your Issues :-))
I used to go with Pcgs I believe they are overrated. They got too big for themselves.
Keep the nickel label bro, that adds value
Buy the Coin not the Holder..😅
I agree. Unfortunately many people want the holder
How do you make money then
These People are anything but PROFESSIONAL !!!💣💥💦💣💥💦💣💥💦👹👹👹👹👹
For that exact reason people with very very valuable coins are hesitant to ship them over. I would rather do a walk in service where the expert from those companies do will grading on the spot in front of me.
I would have lost my shit! Fucking insane
I pretty much did lol
I experienced the same. It like you need to tell them or they don't catch details.
Glad I saw this video before submitting to PCGS! ty
Thanks for watching. I have others that go in to more detail on PCGS. If you want my opinion I’d submit to ANACS first. Then if it comes back a valuable piece, crossover to PCGS. You’ll actually save money since PCGS costs so dang much.
@@rockysramblings I’m new to the coin world.. subscribed
will catch up on the vids. ty
Got a few to slab, not PCGS anymore
I’m sure you requested the varieties and paid for them…but if not then they will not attribute them. I also have a old 1969 mint set that looks to have some environmental issues…. The mint was crap in those years. Good luck. Thanks for sharing.
Yes, I did pay for the attributions. Thanks for watching!
What is attributions?
I think I found the answer on the next video that I watched. So when you go on the website and you can pick specifics about the coin? Like it might be a double die or something
The full steps and the environmental damage I can KINDA SEE them not grading but the rest of them are complete nonsense and exactly why I will be sending my pre 33 gold type set to NGC! Something's been going on with PCGS lately I think they hired a bunch of noobs that don't really have the experience or they only like grading certain coins so the rest of them that comes through the door they just skim over either way it's not professional which is the first letter in Pcgs!
I agree with your analysis completely. Idk what happened but that’s the way it seems to me also.
That’s crazy. I’ll be sure to check out your video. Thank you for showing these quality control mistakes.
Shout out to anacs
I don't want to grade coins to pcgs after watching your videos
Lol neither do I
I have some old pcgs in the rattle holders but I prefer ngc and anacs
Wow what idiots they put a quarter as a nickel
You think it’s intentional in order to control the market or completely unintended?
I think they’re really good at promoting themselves as the best. Personally I’ve been using ANACS since this debacle and I’m more impressed with them. But since PCGS has done a good job of self promotion, everyone thinks they’re the best and ANACS isn’t. PCGS focuses on promotion and money. ANACS seems to still be about coins. And I personally think they keep out a lot of higher graded coins to keep the market high for certain coins.
@@rockysramblings you said it all mate. They’re the house we’re just the players!
Totally agree , they dont really give out 68 or 69 grades anymore, seems like market manipulation to me, I think Ill be using ngc or anacs
Thank you sir.
Nah...the only label varieties if u pay extra...its all in how u fill out the form an pay...thats y u pay attention an get rare coins for the deal..break out,get regraded
I paid for all varieties. In fact they charged me full for those that didn’t receive when they are only supposed to charge half if you don’t receive the variety.
Woooow! They’re not what they use to be!
It's a shame, you spend all that money
Make sure u pay 2 get errors/variety noted or they JUST GRADE EM
@rockyscramblings I am going through the same issues .I sent PCGS Pixs they sent me a message back I can send back in to get regraded .I am sure they will charge me again :-))
Make sure they say free or they will charge you.
Thats why I sell all my coins raw. Lol
I do believe pcgs charges for grading then charges you extra for errors,offset, etc,etc but u have to select it in the order form
I know. I did select it.
Thanks man.. I was just about to send in about 20 coins..
Was thinking of Anacs or pcg? How's your thought about them
ANACS for sure. You don’t need a membership to send in and they recognize all varieties. Idk what you have hit sometimes the difference between a big money variety and a small money one is hard to see. It’s worth paying the extra $3 for their research feature. They’ll figure out exactly what you have. The way I see it, if you have something worth big money you can always crossover to PCGS to get their slab if you feel the need to.
@@rockysramblings Thank you... appreciate it.. I have. Alot... been collecting for a while.. just never post 📫 anything.. been lagging
@@CopperCowboy333 what’s your favorite one?
@rockysramblings my good buddy has been going with Anacs..and pcg... he prefer Anacs as we'll.. like you said.. though.. if it's a high dollar coun he will send to pcgs or cac
Is NGC better? I know that CAC is the best but I've heard NGC is good too.
I haven’t used either of them yet. I use ANACS now and I’m quite happy with them. But if you’re looking to sell them they don’t catch as high a price but hopefully that will change with time
Yep I had a 76 bicentennial quarter with the DDO and they missed it. I went back and forth with them with no results. Sent to NGC and got it no problem and PCGS would not honor it with refund. It was an AU so was very obvious.
They suck. I’ve switched to ANACS. Haven’t used NGC yet. But I’m very happy with ANACS
rocky koinsolv dip that half it will remove that film then wash it in distilled water pat dry with a microfiber towel then send to ngc or back to pcgs
I’ll look into it! Thanks
You never clean or dip a coin. All real collectors know this
@Joshua well, apparently, you haven't seen how the grading services do restorations on coins..
the product I suggested is for removing PVC from silver/gold or coins and is used a lot behind the scenes.. believe me, it's something that will remove PVC from dmpl morgan coins that would be classified as damaged by pvc and bagged by grading services when you pay over 100$ to restore a coin.
yes, using other products will definitely damage or etch a coin, but koinsolv is basically for PVC and harsh tape removal.
if you worked for coin dealers or in the coin show circuit, you would know about this product. if you don't believe me, ask a dealer on how to remove PVC
Even their own evaluation is different In the first submission they designated it as Questionable color-AU detail but in the second submission that I resubmitted after cracking out they designated it as Cleaned-UNC detail
Use ANACS. I had a PCGS Morgan they called details cleaned. Got it back from ANACS as ms 62 dmpl. Went from a $50 coin to a $250 coin
I think PCGS owes you free grading.. or a refund.
I had to fight with them for 2 months in order for them to refund me the overcharged fees and about 4 months for them to check some of the other coins. They took 5 back, 4 came back what I had suspected them to be. They refused to take back most of them without me paying them to review them. PCGS is a joke
That's why I asked why we should be trusting a grading company who only is interested in making money out of us ?
They charge extra money for putting the characteristics of your coins, full steps extra money for them, double die they charge you an extra fee or you should send your coin to another company to be certified with the extra features. Wait a minute isn't pcgs supposed to be a grading company for collectors? So how come they don't even know how a double die looks like. They are a joke
I have 1977 coin liberty
It doesn't matter if it's in a mint set. Environmental damage is what it sounds like. The coin got damaged by the way it was stored. Environment had too much heat, moisture, etc. It's not always about how the coin is housed.
But the other coins were in the mint package with them and the nickel that was in the same set was straight graded. Seems odd.
@rockysramblings Different metal content. Also, you really just never know how the coins were stored. The one with environmental damage could have been more exposed to stuff while the other coins had coins on top of them. Almost like how those Morgan dollars toned in bags. Part of the coin can touch the bag and toned until there was another coin in the way. That makes only a corner of the coin to be toned. Environment and storage play a huge role. But I do agree with another commenter, it'll probably be able to be dipped off.
that 1987 not haveing steps is all the value thats so crazy
Damn thats a lot of f ups on pcgs's part. Did they ever resolve thses and at least regrade them for you?
They refused to take back most of my complaints. I wanted them to take it all back and double check but they refused. Of course there offer was to “let” me pay to have them reconsider them. Eventually after 2 months of arguing they took back 7, 5 of those they agreed with me on. Others I sent to ANACS. I just did a video on them. Some was a misunderstanding on my part due to them not making things clear on their app about VAMS. And they did pay me back for over billing me for the VAMS, but it took them 2 months and several reminders.
@@rockysramblings damn bro that really sucks but then again I'm not surprised by their response when they asked for you to pay more money for something they should fix and make complimentary. These grading companies seem to almost manipulate the market values with some of the grades the give to coins that don't deserve the grade and then mess up on things like having that 5c label on a 25c piece. Overall this is a good video and definitely gives good insight on the ugly side of what can happen when submitting coins even for someone who's done it multiple times!
So what will you do w/the obvious errors? Wreck ‘em out and get them re-graded elsewhere? Damn shame, man. Thanks for putting this out there. Aloha
I’m still talking to PCGS about it. The obvious ones they said they’d fix. The less obvious ones they are being difficult about.
Horrific!! Called them 6 times always calling at begining of their work hours and am put in a call back qune. tell me they eill call me back !! And never do. what the hell are they doing over there!! csn't evrn get a nember ship or have important questions answered. 07/25/2023 and 5 dates before !! That is horrendous!!
Yes you don't get a proper viewing of your coin I stopped using pcgs . It a shame they don't doo do diligence on each coin they are rushing through the process...
The half dollar with environmental damage happens with heat I believe. I've had some that happened before
I’m not sure how it would have happened as it was in a plastic pack with others that I sent in and they got straight graded.
If you got them from someone that didn't store them properly, heat would get trapped though the plastic creating a toned effect. I have a 2018 Innovation dollar that has never been opened out of the case with the same effect.
Why the heck is everyone mad at pcgs
Becasue they charge the most, claim to be the best and then they make simple mistakes like the ones I go through in the video. That’s me anyway. Idk about others.
Okay I guess pcgs is not that good
did you submit them as varieties? like "full steps" "ddo". if not then they won't do it automatically, there's an uncharge for it. there's no excuse for that quarter being labeled as a nickel though, that's just embarrassing.
Yes I did pay for the variety feature
@@rockysramblings was this all to a "nearby representative" of pcgs? or did you send them in to the main place? if it's to a rep, then you should report it to the main place to prevent other people the same issue as yourself. I'm sure the main place would redo your coins no problem + varieties.
I think I screwed up…. I just bought a membership to PCGS. Then, I saw your video, subscribed to your channel, and I’m thinking maybe it’s best to see if I can get my membership refunded.
Sorry to burst your bubble 😅 I would try for that if you can.
They certainly are bitting off more than they can chew!!
Bro, you can't be upset about getting a quarter with a nickel description
Why not? Lol it’s wrong
My ,1969s had double die but they didn't say that ms64/😢
You can still get environmental damage from a mint set🤦🏼♂️
How? When all the other coins were fine
Send to Anacs and see if you get the doubling
It is only 12 dollars with no attribution cost
@@SilverMonsterCoind Is it really?? I have a whole bunch I need graded
@@parrotsandmore7446 if it is one of their recognized varieties
@@SilverMonsterCoind I have a 1948 penny with a 4 over a 2. So that one would be a discovery coin. Do they take those?
@@parrotsandmore7446 you will need to ask if it is one of their standard varieties.
I sent in a 1884-o Morgan it was graded NGC I broke it out sent in they said it was cleaned uncalculated talk about a waste of time and money they robbed me
I was trying to look up true views it took me a half hour lol I kept getting error page
They’ve got multiple issues with their company over the last year
@@rockysramblings have you ever looked at the coins from 1700s they do have amazing photos of them Jack lee's 1893 S MS 67 Morgan is glorious i have a lot of bad luck 🤦♂️
Thier page says a timeout occurred of course lol when u really want to look something up that's when u cant
Can u confirm website is messed up
PCGS cannot even tell the difference between a real multi struck quarter and a counterfeit. I submitted a quarter that was pulled from a Philadelphia mint bag from the actual Philadelphia mint while at my Uncles home in Pennsylvania in 2004 and I remember him pulling that quarter out in a handful of quarters finding one other minor error in the whole bag. The quarter he found and held onto for 19 years became mine. A quadruple struck Florida state quarter. I submitted it to PCGS 38 days ago only to get a message congratulating me that my coin was on its way. Click the link.... says counterfeit. PCGS mean perfect coin grading scam. I'll stick with NGC and keep my money in Florida.
I haven’t used NGC, but I’ve pretty much switched to ANACS. I’ve been very happy. They recognize all varieties, they’re cheaper and just as good at grading. Most my orders have come back within a month also. I’m over 5 months in on my finally submission to PCGS and still no return.
@rockysramblings I'll have to give ANACS a try on some coins. I know they recognize all varieties that NGC and PCGS doesn't. And I have A LOT of them.
@@SquirrelXLaunches No membership required either.
Ngc you go
I have one jeferson nickel year 2000 and one dime i wanted to sell help me please.
PCGS
👎🏻
Ngc is king
Haven’t used them but I’m pretty happy with ANACS so far
It is possible to have environmental damage in a mint set if it was stored in a bad environment.
The thing is they graded a nickel from the exact same set.
@@rockysramblings Some metals may be more reactive than others. Just guessing. You did make some valid points in general, I think. PCGS should do better but they did have a backlog. Maybe they are rushing things more to catch up and making more mistakes.
@@bingo7799 I think that’s what is happening. One of their customer service people told me they did hire a bunch of new people. Either they didn’t get trained well, we’re lazy, or they just pushed it through. Labeling a quarter a nickel is pretty weak lol.
@@rockysramblings I find all the grading companies frustrating at times. I just about swore off NGC a few years ago, now I'm not real happy with PCGS and don't like ANACS holders. It's almost enough to make a person just give up on submissions but I probably won't. Glutton for punishment, I guess.
@@bingo7799 glutton for punishment is the name of the submission game lol. I have only used PCGS so far. I do like the NGC holders more and I don’t like ANACS holders either but my thoughts behind it are that they’re cheap. So I’m considering using them as a filter. To very what I “think” something is. If it doesn’t match what I was hoping I don’t lose as much $. If it meets or exceeds and I want to get it in my PCGS registry then I can cross it over and HOPEFULLY PCGS will agree with ANACS’ grade. 🤷🏼♂️
They only grade good if they are selling it! I’ve seen them grade double dyes that you can’t even see with magnification, yet if you send one with obvious doubling they won’t mark it😡
Protecting their top coins from the little guys it seems
@@rockysramblings bingo!
That’s sucks.
Because you have to notify them of the error and pay the extra $65 error fee.
@@creativity.studio4967SHEBOIGIN!!! If you merely submit coins and your SHEET OF PAPER WITH THE SUBMISSION , DOES NOT SPELL OUT THE VARIETIES OR ERRORS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE ATTRIBUTED, you are basically pissing up a rope. Did you join the highest membership, call first and speak with a Grader and build a nice rapport with him/her?? There are ways?!!!!
As you can see the graders aren't s as good a they would have you believe.
I watched this video by error.
Thanks anyway
@@rockysramblings LOL.That was just a joke.
@@donaldinnewmexico I wasn’t sure 😋
You must work for PGCS
Selling the 25/5 ?
Probably not at this time.
Waste of money.
Wow sad
Dang Butch. He is no good at grading.
Did you pay for the tributes?
Yup
Is ncg better
I haven’t tried them but I’ve heard good things. I use ANACS now and I’m very happy with them.
@@rockysramblings good to know. About to grade a bunch of
That’s horrible
🙄🤨🧐🤯😩 not cool!
Use ngc anacs is pretty bad too
I’m happy with ANACS so far
All I ever hear, "PCGS doesn't make mistakes." "PCGS is the only reputable coin grading company." "I won't use ANACs or NGC."
I’m here to SHOW that they make mistakes lol
That's why I check all graded coins. I've found error coins that they did not see
So is ANACs a more trustworthy grading site?
New to this, wanna be safe
NGC Is The Shit
Haven’t tried them yet