In James chapter 5, verse 10 and 11 said this about Job 10 Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience. 11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy. So James is saying more than one prophet was telling this story about Job . I have been trying to find out who wrote it also because its very exact in what happened even in heaven between God and satan or who every the other spirit was . My question is are they any other storys with conversations between God and other not living entities in the Bible that no one knows who wrote it ?
The passage you quoted was saying the prophets were examples of those who endured suffering. Job is an example of a prophet which is given in the text.
More than one prophet was telling this story about Job? Where did you come up with that? I see that James is simply using Job as an example of faithfulness to God in times of suffering…….
*Make this Make sense* *1. Job was righteous and God still allowed evil upon him???* yet God then in Psalms 91 says "10 no evil will befall you, no plague will approach your tent. 11 For He will command His angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways. (So which is which, God can allow Evil upon man or not)????? 2. How was Satan in heaven if he was cast down from heaven?? 3. If Satan was in heaven so evil can exist in heaven??? 4. If Satan was in heaven So there can be evil in the presence of God??? 5. So God had a bet with satan to harm a righteous man, kill his kids and his animals to prove a point to satan????? 6. So Job was supposed to be happy because he got new children????? 7. Can new children alleviate the pain of losing his previous children.???? 8. If being righteous can get you in trouble with God, then why be righteous???? And yes I do believe in the resurrected Christ and cherish his salvation on the cross but this book called Job has alot of contradictions to the nature of God.
This answer is unsatisfactory. It seems to conflate inspiration and revelation, and reduces the human element to that of a recorder of prophecy rather than an actual writer. Yet, in Luke's gospel he plainly states that he is setting forth an account that he researched, which shows that, in this case at least, he wrote as a man who gathered information from sources to compile his gospel. So here is a book which defies this type of explanation.
Could it be that the Devine guidance doesn’t work the same in every case ? Could it be that God works through natural processes of individuals like Luke researching information about the life of Jesus and in that research God guided Luke to arrive to the content of his Gospel ? Why we must assume that God Must work the same way for every biblical writer ?
@@crazymandavy i think you thesis is because there was a priori research that therefore there is not Devine inspiration taking place. That my understanding of your position. Did I get it right ?
Nobody can date this book. This book was completely invented, just like the book of Ester. Otherwise you would have need a stenographer to keep all these long tirads and explanations about God of 4 people thousands of years ago. God wouldn't commit a sin against Job to satisfy Satan. God would have just rebuke Satan. It's invented, just like the trinity, trans-subtancetuation, purgatory...
So, we ha e a book with no athourship whatsoever. The book of Job is an allegory and there is NO PROOF that it is devine whatsoever. The book of Job clearly had more than one author. In one oart it says the earth hangs on northing, which is correct, then elsewhere it says the earth sits on pillars which is incorrect. The book of job is not devone inspired and there is no proof that it is.
Job 9:6 Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble. Last time I checked pillars exist and are a thing that Earth has and they would in fact shake in an Earthquake. Nothing in the passage suggests Earth sits on pillars. I don't know why people are retarded when it comes to the book of Job but please shut up if you don't know what pillars and earthquakes are.
Thank you so much for this! So helpful
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In James chapter 5, verse 10 and 11 said this about Job
10 Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience.
11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.
So James is saying more than one prophet was telling this story about Job . I have been trying to find out who wrote it also because its very exact in what happened even in heaven between God and satan or who every the other spirit was .
My question is are they any other storys with conversations between God and other not living entities in the Bible that no one knows who wrote it ?
The passage you quoted was saying the prophets were examples of those who endured suffering. Job is an example of a prophet which is given in the text.
More than one prophet was telling this story about Job? Where did you come up with that? I see that James is simply using Job as an example of faithfulness to God in times of suffering…….
@@nicholascarter6543 Who is telling the story about God and satin ? Who did God tell the story to ?
You have not answered the question. Who Recorded the Conversations in the Book of Job??
That's what I want to know also .
*Make this Make sense*
*1. Job was righteous and God still allowed evil upon him???* yet God then in Psalms 91 says "10 no evil will befall you, no plague will approach your tent. 11 For He will command His angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways. (So which is which, God can allow Evil upon man or not)?????
2. How was Satan in heaven if he was cast down from heaven??
3. If Satan was in heaven so evil can exist in heaven???
4. If Satan was in heaven So there can be evil in the presence of God???
5. So God had a bet with satan to harm a righteous man, kill his kids and his animals to prove a point to satan?????
6. So Job was supposed to be happy because he got new children?????
7. Can new children alleviate the pain of losing his previous children.????
8. If being righteous can get you in trouble with God, then why be righteous????
And yes I do believe in the resurrected Christ and cherish his salvation on the cross but this book called Job has alot of contradictions to the nature of God.
Behold, this we have searched out; it is true. Hear, and know it for your good.” Job 5:27 the word "we" who are they.?
Job's friends. Did you even read the book?
This answer is unsatisfactory. It seems to conflate inspiration and revelation, and reduces the human element to that of a recorder of prophecy rather than an actual writer. Yet, in Luke's gospel he plainly states that he is setting forth an account that he researched, which shows that, in this case at least, he wrote as a man who gathered information from sources to compile his gospel. So here is a book which defies this type of explanation.
Could it be that the Devine guidance doesn’t work the same in every case ?
Could it be that God works through natural processes of individuals like Luke researching information about the life of Jesus and in that research God guided Luke to arrive to the content of his Gospel ?
Why we must assume that God Must work the same way for every biblical writer ?
@@StrivingMen And? What has this got to do with what I wrote?
@@crazymandavy i think you thesis is because there was a priori research that therefore there is not Devine inspiration taking place.
That my understanding of your position.
Did I get it right ?
Nobody can date this book. This book was completely invented, just like the book of Ester. Otherwise you would have need a stenographer to keep all these long tirads and explanations about God of 4 people thousands of years ago. God wouldn't commit a sin against Job to satisfy Satan. God would have just rebuke Satan. It's invented, just like the trinity, trans-subtancetuation, purgatory...
So, we ha e a book with no athourship whatsoever. The book of Job is an allegory and there is NO PROOF that it is devine whatsoever.
The book of Job clearly had more than one author. In one oart it says the earth hangs on northing, which is correct, then elsewhere it says the earth sits on pillars which is incorrect. The book of job is not devone inspired and there is no proof that it is.
Job 9:6 Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble.
Last time I checked pillars exist and are a thing that Earth has and they would in fact shake in an Earthquake. Nothing in the passage suggests Earth sits on pillars.
I don't know why people are retarded when it comes to the book of Job but please shut up if you don't know what pillars and earthquakes are.
You give theory but zero good evidence