And yet it at least is just a short fun song and bearable, unlike the horrendous 8 1/2 minute slop that is Why Worry, probably the lamest, most boring song of all time (then again, the worst Dire Straits song will forever be "Les Boy" from Making Movies)
I usually agree with you more, but you named several albums I really like this time. Idea; I wonder if you have material to do "ten albums I shouldn't love, but do."
I never got the appeal of Kid A until I ended up spending a lonely evening in by myself in a hotel bedroom & decided to listen to it as I sat by the window, watching the world go by. It just clicked for me as I observed the people on the street below & the cars going past. They all seemed to be moving in time with the music.
Hmmm cannot agree with you on the wall, saw them play this from end to end it was incredible, love all of it with my favourite line "if you don't eat your meat you can't have any pudding" great line and a practical teaching aid.
@@tozot2 I have not. For me, it’s Springsteens voice. It always sounds like he’s yelling. I listen to him and feel like someone’s dad is yelling at me the entire time. Having said that, there are two songs that I like by him: Tunnel of Love and Pink Cadillac. That’s it.
I'm from L.A. and really loved the first few Eagles albums. It wasn't their departure from country rock and the lack of those wonderful harmonies it was the completely insipid lyrics that turned me off Hotel California. Rich entitled f'd up people complaining about the other rich entitled f'd up people who moved there after them and ruined it. Laughably clueless and pretentious... and way overplayed. Being stuck on the freeway and late for a real job while hearing Life In The Fast Lane on every station was maddening.
All that this has proved is that people have different music tastes - and I say thank God for that. Agree with some of the choices, disagree with others - and there is nothing wrong with the that.
Very true that everyone's tastes are different. Pink Floyd's The Wall has grown weary to me over the years. It went from enjoying the full double album, to tolerating a full listen, to now just picking out the songs I want to hear. I haven't listened to the full recording in a single listen for probably 20 years. A handful of fantastic tracks sprinkled throughout a lot of filler, but for me, it's the previous album Animals that I should love but just don't. It doesn't work for me on almost any level, lyrically or even music arrangements. Taking the classic story of Animal Farm and drawing a completely different conclusion also keeps me from loving that album.
@@drsamurai009 You can like or dislike albums for all kinds of reasons. The Wall is such a huge album that i'd skip huge sections. But there is no doubt its considered a classic, even if we don't care for it. Animals is less a 'classic', for me I listened to it over and over again for god knows how long, and frankly have never listened to either again. But difficult albums are like that, many prog bands I am in awe of the piece and can admire it on many levels but mostly find I listen to poppier stuff. My example is that Anthem by Yes is just a monstrously creative piece of work, but I find myself listening to 90125 over and over, despite knowing its not 'better' and is less originail, though its pretty original for pop. There are people who swear A final cut is their best, but again I listened to it over and over for a shorter period, and haven't again. I like Nick kents pink floyd interview, he goes into detail about why he hates ALL pink floyd after Barrett, particularly after Meddle. Thats likely my favourite.
Yes people have different music tastes, If everyone was the same it would be boring. But having differing opinions make's it boring too because music discussion all tends to be the same, It's almost all -Complaining about music you find overrated. -Whining about music acts selling out. - Trying to put more attention on music you think is underrated, but trust me ,nobody is really interested. The internet is mostly an echo chamber no matter what the subject. I read a quote recently that was so true "most people don't want to hear your opinion, they want to ear their own opinion coming from your mouth"
Great concept. Some of these albums were huge sellers because they are more commercial sounding than other albums by that artist, so ultimately might be less satisfying to true fans of that artist. Or it could just the timing of the release with some of those mid 80s monsters - ie it was the height of the pop video era (Money for Nothing, Call me Al, Sledgehammer etc) which massively boosted sales - plus with the emergence of the CD format and as a result they were massively overexposed. The Wall I’ve never loved it i listen every couple of years as I much prefer Animals or Wish You Were here.
Omg The Wall was so so important to me for decades, I travelled over 1000 miles and paid over 1000 pounds just to hear David Gilmour play Comfortably Numb 😁
i totally disagree.. this guy has no substantial comments about these really good albums. He is an absoultely hopeless critic. who the hekk is he anyway...just random drivel from him.
Totally. I remember giving it a re- listen a few years back and being stunned how bad it is. Many songs are highly annoying. I once thought it was great
@@mbrownie22 true has a good song on it, I actually like sgt P reprise too. Help from my friends not bad, But the filler stuff is diabolical. I can see why George H didn’t turn up much.
I'd definitely rather listen to Revolver or Abbey Road... maybe Rubber Soul, too. Not so much The White Album because it's sort of a slog to get through. They really should've tightened White Album up a bit. To me, it's weighed down by about a dozen tracks of filler.
I totally agree with you about The Wall. It has all the Floyd darkness and pain without the lyricism, sweetness and transcendent beauty of their preceding work. As far as I'm concerned, Animals was the LAST Pink Floyd album. I also agree about Brothers in Arms, Kid A, and Yellow Brick Road. Brothers in Arms is a pretty lame album overall, I would say. I bought it years ago, listened to it once, and never again. I found Kid A to be a total musical collapse after the soaring heights of The Bends and OK Computer. And of course Radiohead never recovered from that fall. In fact their music just kept getting worse. As for Yellow Brick Road, I think it was too diluted and unfocused, and would have benefited (at least musically, if not financially) from having been released as a single album instead of a double. To me, the five albums that preceded it, as well as the two that followed are all better than Yellow Brick Road. I won't speak to Brave or An Innocent Man, as I don't know those albums. Nor will I say much about Pinups, since it's not a very important album, and is not one I've ever heard anyone praise, recommend to me or tell me I should like, let alone love. I've never been a big Peter Gabriel fan outside of Genesis, but I do think So is an extremely strong album, containing some really fine songs. I've also never been a big Eagles fan ... I find them to be elitist and pretentious, and their concert tickets have been unbearably expensive for at least 30 years. So they can kiss my ass. Having said that, I consider Hotel California to be an unreserved masterpiece, beginning to end. As is Graceland, in my view. Unlike The Eagles, Paul Simon is a likeable fellow, and that album was not only profound and beautiful, but also revolutionary. A magnificent work. As for other albums I should love ... but just don't, let me start with The Beatles' Let It Be and Sgt. Pepper. While Abbey Road, the White Album, Revolver, Rubber Soul and Help! are all jewels in the crown of popular music, I think even Magical Mystery Tour is better than Sgt. Pepper. Other albums I'm not crazy about are the Stones' Exile on Main St., Dylan's Blonde on Blonde, Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti (and everything they released after it), David Bowie's Low, Heroes and Lodger, King Crimson's Red, and Boston's debut album, which I loathe (did they release others or just that one?)
Totally agree with all of these with the exception of Pinups and Yellow Brick Road. I also agree with Animals being the last great PF album! Great content as always!
same agree i had pinups on vinyl previous collection animals also last summer bought e hoes cd comp nothing on wall comes close to the dogs suite of course had vinly current reissue ridiculous expensive never see used g.c.
Otherwise, I understand choices well, but I can't find any fault with Peter Gabriel's So. Yes, Melt is probably Gabriel's best solo album, but I also like this a lot.
Interesting list….I was surprised at SO and Yellow Brick (two of my favorite albums)….but all I kept saying to myself is “don’t say Crest of a Knave….don’t say Crest of a Knave!” Lol
Fascinating. These are mostly albums that I have, at some point, loved, then fallen out of love with, and in some cases fallen back in love with. So I can appreciate both sides.
Dire Straits’ “Walk of Life”. Not too long ago I was having one of those days when nothing was going right. Walking into a grocery store later that day, the ghastly keyboard opening to “The Walk of Life” started playing and I let out an inappropriately loud f-bomb. Everyone stared at the crazy man who then wisely decided to forego the shopping and proceeded directly home. Day over. Damn you, Mr. Knopfler! 😆
I would've had the same exact reaction if they'd played that or Money For Nothing.......................CAN'T STAND either one of those!! (But I DO love the Straits, don't get me wrong). Also, never understood how So Far Away wasn't as big a hit as those two....................it's about 10X BETTER!
I agree with all of your choices except Kid-A. For me, it's a beautiful album that works on all levels. I recently binge-watched 'Blake's 7' which was my first viewing since the originals were aired. That show was never as good after Blake (Gareth Thomas) went missing. Cheers.
I still have Kid A rated as a 4.5 star album, but the further I get away from its release date, the more I think it's overrated in the grand scheme of things. If you dig into 1980s and 1990s electronic music, Kid A is not as original as it's made out to be.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 What I find most impressive about Kid A is the way it almost perfectly blends rock and techno. It's something bands like Genesis. U2, R.E.M. and others had attempted in the '80s and '90s but never quite mastered the way Radiohead did it.
@jhillst Boy, I don't hear much rock on Kid A, which is part of why I drifted away from Radiohead a little bit in the '00s. I'm a rock music lover, so when Radiohead stopped writing guitar-based rock songs and went for an electrono-pop sound, it was a change I respected but wasn't head-over-heels in love with. I do agree Kid A is an exceptionally good stab at techno for what had previously been a rock band. But songs-wise, it's definitely not as iconic as OK Computer.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 I like OK Computer and The Bends very much indeed. But for some reason I really engaged with their Kid-A/Amnesiac incarnation. Maybe its the Abstract nature of it. After Amnesiac, I feel they lost something that is hard to qualify. Even so, I do thoroughly enjoy the later albums (except King of Limbs). Cheers.
Oh man I hated Stanley Baxter. The whole lewd pantomime stuff with him dressed up singing innuendo laden songs. Some of the most cringeworthy attempts at comedy I've seen
Ten albums I should love but I hate: 10) Eagles /ST 9) Eagles /Desperado 8) Eagles / On the Border 7) Eagles / One of These Nights 6) Eagles / Hotel California 5) Eagles / The Long Run 4) Eagles / Long Road Out of Eden 3) Don Henley / Building the Perfect Beast 2) Don Henley / End of Innocence 1) Glenn Frey / the aptly titled No Fun Allowed
Couldn't agree more, though my list would have to include most of Bowie's output as well. I realise that makes ne some kind of heretic, but I never understood or realy enjoyed Bowie albums. Some of the singles are fabulous though.
I had the same feelings as you about Kid A initially but I did come to look upon it as their greatest moment, along with Amnesiac. Much as I love OK Computer, those two eclipsed it for me.
Agree with most of this except for “Goodbye Yellow Brick Road” which is by Far Elton’s Best Album, it’s a beautifully recorded epic. He never got near it again!!
Agree - I've never tired of it. I would swap it out on this list for Madman Across the Water. Everyone raves but I think it's the low point of Elton's golden era. That and Caribou, but no-one talks that one up.
Absolutely. I don't agree with a few of the choices, but especially GBYBR. Not only Elton's best, but his best by some margin. Apart from the classic singles, deep cuts such as Harmony and I've Seen That Movie Too, are 2 of my all time favourite songs, let alone Elton Songs. Absolutely epic Album.
@@MrJambug I've Seen That Movie Too is my favourite Elton song. And Harmony is the perfect closer. What an album - from to opening wind chimes to the final "ahhh -Aaaaaaah!"
@@Fuzcapp yep, I didn't even mention the opening salvo of Funeral For A friend and Loves Lies Bleeding. What an introduction!! As you say, from start to finish an absolute classic.
I'm aligned with most of your choices, notable exceptions being The Wall, Brave, and Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, all of which I continue to love. Oh, and I agree with Lebowski.
Agree entirely with your take on "Brothers in Arms".........One of the worst songs ever is "Walk of Life" a truely forgettable homage to John that he probably would have hated too. Making Movies was the pinnacle of this bands life and everything after "Love Over Gold" should never have happened.
@@marktait2371 I've seen the big new live box set on Apple Music and thought "why?". It includes Alchemy and On The Night, plus one great show from the early years with songs from DS and Communique on it. Alchemy for me is distinguished by having the two worst songs from Moving Pictures and lacking the songs I like from Love Over Gold, but it's already a release; they could have found some recordings from the Moving Pictures era when Pick was still in the band and released those instead. I just listen to the Rainbow theatre show (disc 5) and turn off when Phil Lynott comes on with a bunch of generic rock-and-roll covers.
Making Movies had Les Boys, the by far shittiest track Mark Knopfler ever puked out. BiA is fine except for Why Worry, which sucks and Walk of Life which is indeed a bit irritating but harmless fun. Can't go wrong with Ride Across the River, Man's too Strong and the title track though.
I'm not a Brit so I don't know your reference, but I suspect "a rock opera rendering of the Stanley Baxter show" is a pretty savage put down! Agreed on many of these for sure, though I still have a soft spot for Graceland. One of many I have similar feelings about is The Who's Quadrophenia, though I have stretched my tolerance for it over the years, still feel it's patchy and not a masterpiece. I always preferred Kid A to the earlier Radiohead, but what made me like it even more is seeing them perform those songs live in 2001. No matter how odd they sounded at first, they still rocked.
Totally agree with you about Kid A. "Dreary, whiney nonsense" Excellent! However, I totally disagree with Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. I love 70s Elton and this stands along side Tumbleweed, Honky Chateau as his very best
There are two albums that I regularly see in lists of greatest albums of all time that I just don't get..."Trout Mask Replica" by Captain Beefheart and "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea" by Neutral Milk Hotel...I really think that both are incredibly overrated whereas quite a few of my friends disagree with me...but that is the beauty of music and our individual tastes.
Great T-shirt, Barry - one of the very BEST albums of all time! I agree with nearly all of your choices here, especially Billy Joel's 'An Innocent Man', and your sentiments regarding him. I grew up listening to 'Turnstiles', 'The Stranger', '52nd Street' and 'Glass Houses' on repeat, but no-one else seemed to know who I was talking about. Then 'Uptown Girl' was released and suddenly everyone was a fan (but still didn't know his older, better material). An album that I feel I should like, but don't, is Steve Hackett's 'Voyage of the Acolyte'. I try to, but just can't get into it. Maybe I should try again. Same goes for King Crimson's 'In the Court of the Crimson King'. Apart from 'Epitaph', which is sublime, it doesn't do much for me.
I love it too. But, I saw Elton doing the entie album in a concert in Montreal in the 80's and it sounded much better live.... probably the best concert I have ever been to. So, I too think a re-mix of the album must be a good idea.
Agree - I've never tired of it. I would swap it out on this list for Madman Across the Water. Everyone raves but I think it's the low point of Elton's golden era. That and Caribou, but no-one talks that one up.
I fully agree with your appraisal of the wall , even as a young fanboy buying it all those years ago I realised it was overblown amateur opera towards the end, with a few classic floyd gems in there on the earlier sides..
It's all personal opinion of course, but difficult to see how you can write off the whole back catalogues of major bands/artists unless you've listened to all their albums (more than once). Maybe you have, but I would say that the early albums by all three of those acts are much better than the albums that came after they became well known. But perhaps you've listened to all those early albums and still don't like them, in which case - fair enough!
Marillion: Brave. The most misery inducing piece they have ever made - Portishead would sound cheerful by comparison. The only one of the deluxe box sets I didn't buy - and I won't (yet I am normally a completist!)
Anything by the Stones. I like so many of their songs, but every album I've listened to about half of it I could do without. I can kind of see the point with Paul Simon's Graceland, the one release with the demo tracks, I actually prefer some of the demos over the album track.
Totally agree about the Stones. With possibly a few exceptions, their albums are 3 or 4 great songs and a whole lot of filler. I'm not normally a fan of "best of..." albums, but for the Stones, that's the best way to enjoy them.
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. I love Carpet Crawlers, but that's it. I get nothing from the concept, can't relate to it, and coming after SEBTP, it all sounds very 'cold' for want of a bettter description.
Lamb ( a bit like Yes' Oceans & Floyd's Wall ) is an album most prog fans approach with a certain amount of trepidation....... You're spot on with Carpet Crawlers tho - an out and out classic !
I can agree with a lot of this. I see your point about Brothers In Arms, but I do think side two in particular is a great moody rumination on war. An Innocent Man was my introduction to Billy Joel as a kid. And I do enjoy a bit of the doo-wop style so it’s not a problem for me. But I can see how a long-standing fan of his earlier work would not enjoy him becoming so big. I do think the album is brilliantly written performed though with some of his very best vocals. Leave a Tender Moment Alone is just superb. Agree about Pink Floyd.
I'm a huge Peter Gabriel fan and I'm with you on So - Melt/Security/Live are immense albums with a real innovative sound. So has some very good songs but for me I always preferred Security and Us! However, absolutely not with you on Graceland - I first heard that at 9 years old and it is really deeply engrained in me - the rythems and basslines are immense and the lyrical imagery is superb!
I finally got round to listening it recently, hoping for great things only to find it almost unlistenable. I'll probably never play 'Pet Sounds' again.
I bought it once because I read everywhere how great it is. It is not. Never listened to it again. The Beach Boys are very overrated. A few good songs, thats it.
I really got deep into Brave in the mid-90s, because it was so ambitious and sonically dense. There are songs on there that I still love (Runaway, Hollow Man, Falling from the Moon, Made Again) but overall it was hard work. I think I wanted to love it more than I did. When Adraid of Sunlight came out next, it was such a relief. An album of great songs linked by a common theme, but not beholden to it.
Animals has become my favorite Floyd album, nearly tied with Wish You Were Here. But I can safely say that The Wall (both the album and film) changed my life in 5th grade. Hell, it even changed my handwriting--I still sign my t's with sharp slanted flourishes à la Gerald Scarfe.
Animals is their worst of the modern era. Highly over rated by fans. The songs are just ok jam songs, they lack essential vitamins and vigour of their masterpieces. Of which The Wall is one
I love Innocent Man! To me that was the best Joel output - 50's, Gospel, rock n roll, pop, boogie - all there and every song is spot on - the 'best in class' version (stylistically) of each of those genres and affectations...
Do I listen to Elton's GYBR as an old man in 2024? Rarely. Is it bloated. Yes. Was it brilliant at the time? Absolutely. EJ took elements of all the genres swirling around in the early 1970's and presented them to a pop audience. As a kid I was blown away by Funeral. It probably was the first long-form prog song I'd really listened to. The glam of Bennie! The old school rock of Saturday Night! The piano fronted RnB sound! C'mon. That album changed my life, led me right to the sources when i was old enough to steal my own records :-)
Respect for musical creations versus loving the same music is not always the issue. It can be both, either, or neither. Opinions are common. Insight is rare. Thanks for focusing on bringing us more of the latter! Edit: I forgot to include my list of influential albums as you requested. I’ll keep it to three, in chronological order: Naturally by Three Dog Night, perhaps their best and very important personally, and the fabulous group gets no love from critics because they were only hit makers and not hit writers and I always loved them; A Farewell to Kings by Rush, which is not on most lists of greatest Rush albums, but it’s the one that convinced me these guys were truly special and not just competently interesting; and Duke by Genesis, which was the point from which I began to acquire all their past and future albums. There are, of course, several others in my own pantheon of rock music greatness, but this trio were personal pivot points and that perspective always matters.
Music is subjective. Everyone likes different things. You made several great points in your video. Thanks so much for sharing Barry! I look forward to your next video.
For me, I was 9 or 10 when ‘The Wall’ came out. A neighbor who was a little older, maybe 12-13 had a copy and being exposed to mostly top 40 pop I was honestly a little frightened by this music with the heavy themes, strange voices, and sinister sound effects, not to mention the bizarre cover art. I became obsessed with wanting my own copy and did chores for a neighbor until I had enough to buy one. Being so young, I never really could get into it; I couldn’t understand it the way I could understand a 2:30 pop song. But I would force myself to listen to it. And I did over and over again. I never really understood the adult themes back then or really what the album was about and never lost my uneasy fascination with it. Eventually I outgrew my obsession but never lost the fascination. Even as a teen, the album seemed spooky but I did start to apppreciate many of the songs, like ‘Mother’ and ‘Comfortably Numb.’ But again, I never lost the creepy unnerving when listing to, or even thinking about the album. Then RUclips came along and has completely deconstructed it to the point where there is honestly no mystery left to any part of the music, the process of making the music, band dynamics, honestly nothing. This used to be a masterpiece. Now it’s almost an afterthought. Although I love to understand things, but I think that knowing every little detail takes away the mystique to such a degree that it almost ruins it. Sad to say that this is what has happened here in this case, at least for me…
Equally, there are many songs i frickin' hated in their day because of radio overplay. but now I quite like them, since I haven't heard them for a while. I'm thinking especially of the Bee Gees disco period, and ABBA. Also Fleetwood Mac. They all used to grind my gears at the time, but now I quite appreciate them.
None of the albums mentioned above seem to merit the "should love" phrase. One needs to aim for the sacred cows, which I will presently try to do. The following are albums that most everyone loves but which leave me generally cold: 10. Steely Dan, Can't Buy a Thrill 9. Springsteen, Born to Run 8. Carole King, Tapestry 7. Eagles, Hotel California 6. Patti Smith, Horses (or anything else by Patti) 5. The Clash, London Calling 4. ELP, Pictures at an Exhibition 3. Genesis, Selling England by the Pound 2. Neil Young, After the Gold Rush (or, alternatively, Harvest) 1. Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon
Agree on DSotM. It's the one I've tried harder to love than any other album, giving it about a hundred chances over the years, and only because of how I love other PF work. In the end, I love about 20% of it.
@@bitcortex1991 Snap. The first album I bought was Abbey Rd, Beatles. Played it to death. Have a pet theory (no one agrees with😀) that DSOTM was Pink Floyd emulating the production standards of that album, which worked so well because the Beatles agreed to defer to their great producer to pull it off. I think it was a template for Floyd re how to make an album which would break them in America/around the world. I still play Abbey Rd and it still sounds great. I couldn’t understand why everyone but me thought DSOTM was so great. It is a “great” album but it stands on the shoulders of Abbey Rd for me .. making up half its towering greatness 😀
Very commendable list. I may disagree with only one, the Peter Gabriel album. It's a mood and a feel and has its own charm through some of the lesser desirable tracks. But when it's good, it's superb. Definitely can't argue about the Billy Joel and Dire Straits albums. I may also kind of disagree on the Eagles album, but for me that's hit or miss, depending on mood. Nevertheless, I completely have to agree about The Wall. Side 4 does have one worth song, "Run Like Hell", which makes Side 4 hard to listen to, but does pay off in the middle of it and then turn it off once that song is over.
Plus - if you have a good vinyl set-up - yes this reply is from one of the “old school” - Pin Ups really packs a punch ! Anyway, I can see why the reviewer - given the “original” stuff Bowie came up with - could come to the conclusion he has - I suppose it’s “Vivre La Difference !”
So true that Us is Gabriel's best album , I Adore it , saw him in 93 on this tour what a Great Concert!. So true again about the song Walk of Life by Dire Straits, It is most likely the song played on a loop too residence of hell....also on the Wall by Floyd its only Gilmours In the Flesh guitar parts that absolutly floor me, its so grand and epic and the guitar work in Hey You stands out also; there are 3 other great songs on the record the rest is a borefest.
My List are ........ Blackstar - David Bowie Joshua Tree - U2 Appetite for Destruction - G N' R Heartbeat City - The Cars Thriller - Michael Jackson Pet Sounds - The Beach Boys Out of the Blue - ELO The Piper at the Gates of Dawn - Pink Floyd Permanent Vacation [Era] - Aerosmith Born in the USA - Bruce Springstein Purple Rain - Prince Of course. There are others over 50 years.
Don Henley does not like anyone or anything beyond himself. He's a kill joy whom I like to pretend does not exist. May God bless Bernie Leadon and Don Felder, and may Randy Meisner forever RIP.
I try to separate artist from art. Richie Blackmoor was apparently a tremendous prick too, but I still love his playing. But hey, even Beato complains about Henley, along with Metallica, coming after his "What Makes This Song Great" videos breaking down their work.
Agree with all of these except Pin Ups Bowie. I remember when this was released we were told he was leaving the music business and this was his last album. I still enjoy it. With Yellow Brick Road the advantage of listening to vinyl was Side 1 and then Side 3 were the best of the album so these are the main ones I played and missed the rest. Cheers!
The first Stone Roses album. The Clash; London Calling. Pink Floyd; Dark Side Of The Moon. Spiritualized; Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space (and I'm a huge fan of Spacemen 3 and early Spiritualized). Any albums by Led Zeppelin, The Smiths, The Cure, Oasis and Depeche Mode. Don't hate any of the aforementioned just don't have any of it.
I feel the same about the Clash albums. I like "Give 'Em Enough Rope" as it has some real anthems like "Tommy Gun", but "London Calling" leaves me oddly disengaged and needed a few rougher edges. The songs are good, but it seems they should of left some of the songs for "Sandanista".
For context I was 22 years old when The Wall was released. I remember being so excited when I bought it, unwrapped it, put it on the turntable. I have never been so disappointed, so let down by any record as I was by The Wall. There was such a disconnect from the soaring progressive grandeur of all their previous recordings. It was so boring and so disco-tinged that I can still taste the betrayal to this day.
Wow, rarely do I see a Floyd fan mirror this same opinion. But it’s so true, people talk about The Wall like it’s on the same level or even better than Wish You Were Here or The Dark Side of the Moon. I don’t know what they are hearing.
Totally with you on 'Brothers in Arms'. Music for Hi-Fi demonstration rooms. 'So' isn't a patch on Gabriel's masterpiece, his third solo album from 1980, and the brilliant 1982 follow up, but is still a good record. And I agree on 'Graceland' as well. I love listening to music from various African countries but I don't really want it backing Paul Simon. He started writing songs to rhythms at this time which rather dulled the melodic gifts of one of the greatest tunesmiths of all time. Far from a bad record, but not as great as people made it out to be.
If you grew up alone on a desert island and a big crate of albums washed ashore you wouldn't understand the concept of "supposed to like" an album. We're all so prone to pressures of society.
Here's mine The Works-Queen Definitely Maybe-Oasis Anything by Green Day London Calling-The Clash Thriller-Michael Jackson To Pimp A Butterfly-Kendrick Lamar Ram-Paul McCartney A Hard Day's Night-The Beatles Brothers In Arms-Dire Straits The Final Cut-Pink Floyd Hotel California-Eagles
Even though I'm not the target audience I've grown to really like this channel. Hopefully he's just busy going to gigs and longer videos return. If not it's still great. Keep it up 👍
Disagree about Graceland, GYBR and The Wall. Especially The Wall. Who cares if it’s a RW album? It’s a masterpiece. So are Animals, DSOTM and WYWH but that doesn’t mean The Wall isn’t or can’t be.
I am so happy you brought up Kid A.. they made The Bends and OK Computer and then people say Kid A was the masterpiece. I guess my ears just don't hear what others are hearing.
Don’t feel bad about not liking The Wall. Talk about overblown… And it doesn’t help that the hits were driven into the ground by relentless radio play…
I agree about the hits being ruined by overexposure. But I still think the album is brilliant. But I also think it does have more to do with Waters and his subsequent work than it does with Floyd’ previous work. Animals was the last great Floyd album. Certainly my favourite
Mostly agree with you there, and even where I don't I can see where you're coming from. But Pin-Ups is wonderful, and it's no crime to not be quite as good as Aladdin Sane & Diamond Dogs.
I'll go with .... Uriah Heep - "Abominog" Status Quo - "On the Level" Deep Purple - "Fireball" Sweet - "Desolation Boulevard" (UK version) Eagles - "Hotel California" The Beatles - "The Beatles / White Album" Slade - "Old, New, Borrowed and Blue" Flipping this theme on its head ... albums I shouldn't love, but I do .... The Osmonds - "The Plan" Bruce Springsteen - "We Shall Overcome" The Eagles - "The Long Run"
Agree re The White Album but I like several tracks on it. They bashed it out .. sounds like . Fireball is one of my favourites Gillan loved it Ritchie didn’t. Anything following “In Rock” was going to be perceived as going down a notch.
@@FuzcappDuring my boredom in Covid I created a playlist called the ‘Right Album’ where I cut out all the crap and made it a normal LP length. Was interesting to see most of Paul’s stuff got the chop!
@@AbbeyRoadkill1as the years have gone on, I have found the production to be lacking. It sounds very thin and there are 0 dynamics to it. Granted I'm someone who loves Standing on the shoulder of Giants and how it sounds.
I am a super Gabriel man and SO always felt like "single and ready to mingle" rather than anything more substantial. Great rhythm section work, but ehhhhhh - I was born in 1984 so when this came out I did love this album (thanks mom and dad lol)
Always loved Floyd but in particular the early material, especially obscured by clouds. But The Wall would have been a great single album. As a double? It’s far too heavy going and dull as dish water.
Hate - The Wall (which is a Roger Waters solo album except for Comfortably Numb, the only truly great moment) Dislike - Kid A Indifferent - Pin Ups, An Innocent Man Like - Brave, GYBR, Graceland, Hotel California, Brothers in Arms Love - So
Automatic For The People and New Adventures In Hi-Fi by REM. You won’t find a bigger fan of REM’s ‘80s material than me, so I am a huge fan of REM, and it’s not that I dislike their ‘90s material - I love Out Of Time - and there are songs on Automatic….and New Adventures….that I like, but I’ve just never fully connected with those albums in relation to how highly rated they are. Life’s Rich Pageant and Reckoning are their best albums as far as I’m concerned
Love Automatic but can BARELY STAND New Adventures. Don't get why so many REM fans slobber all over the latter. Way too long and self-indulgent. Glad they eventually redeemed themselves with Reveal.
@@davidl570 Yes - even Michael Stipe has said New Adventures is his favourite REM album, but I've long suspected that is mostly due to the fact Patti Smith is on it. It was their first album after their huge new deal with Warners, and you can tell - the production is huge and so clean that you can practically smell the money coming through the speakers, and for me the result is an overly long, middle of the road, somewhat clinical and soulless album. I wouldn't say it's completely terrible - I quite like So Fast So Numb and Be Mine, and Zither and Electrolite are lovely little tunes, but overall the album has always left me a bit cold, and I've never understood why it's always rated and ranked so highly. Sometimes less is more - I always preferred the earlier REM albums with lower production values, when they were a bit more poetic, arty, mysterious and cryptic, and you didn't even know what Stipe was singing about half the time.
Agree with you entirely on 'The Wall'... my sentiments exactly! The other nine mentioned... (except perhaps for the Bowie and Elton John albums)... have never rung in my musical world whatsoever.
You can get fed up with any album if you play it enough times. We all love the Pet Sounds, Rumours, Sgt. Peppers and Thriller et al but I couldn't play them every single day. It would do my head in!
Hi Barry & I have to say I agree with all of your picks & several of mine are as follows... Genesis - Selling England by the Pound Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn The Beatles - Revolver The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main St The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses The Who - Tommy The Clash - London's Calling Coldplay - Rush of Blood to the Head U2 - The Joshua Tree Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run...
@@Bluepilled-c5tThe videos were awesome. It wasn't just the band standing there and singing. Money for Nothing and Sledgehammer were what music videos could be. I stopped watching MTV around 2001 when I graduated from college. I'm mean no one sits around anymore and waits for the premier of a music video. That is another topic all together; however, you can blame MTV for reality tv.
Of The Wall. "A rock-opera rendering of the Stanley Baxter Show". Sublime.
Parlamio Glasgow.
Dire Straits: Walk of Life…including that irritating “ woo hoo “ your comments are spot on with that track.
Great tee shirt !
I'm a fan and knopfler is a guitar hero of mine, but I just can't stand walk of life, sorry Mark.
And yet it at least is just a short fun song and bearable, unlike the horrendous 8 1/2 minute slop that is Why Worry, probably the lamest, most boring song of all time (then again, the worst Dire Straits song will forever be "Les Boy" from Making Movies)
I usually agree with you more, but you named several albums I really like this time. Idea; I wonder if you have material to do "ten albums I shouldn't love, but do."
Excellent idea.
@@classicalbum K tel vol 22 😀
@@classicalbum I second that! How 'bout it, Barry?
I never got the appeal of Kid A until I ended up spending a lonely evening in by myself in a hotel bedroom & decided to listen to it as I sat by the window, watching the world go by. It just clicked for me as I observed the people on the street below & the cars going past. They all seemed to be moving in time with the music.
It still sucks.
It took ages for Kid A to sink in for me but think that it's fantastic now
I'm a Blake's 7 fan in America and laughed out loud at your little dig there! Your sense of humor is one of the delights of your channel!
I like Blake's 7 as well but I have to agree that OK Computer was an infinitely better album
Help me out. I'm a big fan, too, but I could not make the connection.
Hmmm cannot agree with you on the wall, saw them play this from end to end it was incredible, love all of it with my favourite line "if you don't eat your meat you can't have any pudding" great line and a practical teaching aid.
This is why I love music and your channel. There's always a something fascinating to hear and talk about.
You could add just about any Bruce Springsteen album to this list.
same another skip button for me
Never really understood the appeal of Bruce, but then I’m not American
@@frankmachin5438you don’t have to be American to be bored to the brim by Springsteen 🫤. Although “Down Bound Train” has grown on me
So, you guys never listened to jungleland 😮
@@tozot2 I have not. For me, it’s Springsteens voice. It always sounds like he’s yelling. I listen to him and feel like someone’s dad is yelling at me the entire time. Having said that, there are two songs that I like by him: Tunnel of Love and Pink Cadillac. That’s it.
Interesting - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road is by far my favourite Elton John album, especially the first few songs on side two
Mine too
I'm from L.A. and really loved the first few Eagles albums. It wasn't their departure from country rock and the lack of those wonderful harmonies it was the completely insipid lyrics that turned me off Hotel California. Rich entitled f'd up people complaining about the other rich entitled f'd up people who moved there after them and ruined it. Laughably clueless and pretentious... and way overplayed. Being stuck on the freeway and late for a real job while hearing Life In The Fast Lane on every station was maddening.
got in car today heartsche tonight was on click next channel same never liked hotel or long run
Take It To the Limit was (before the after-comers Felder and Walsh) the end for me. 1-2-3-4 up, 1-2-3-4 down. Talk about "predictable". Spare me.
I agree with the Radiohead stuff.
Most of it, really. Never understood why so many people thought they were the best thing ever.
I have also yet to find anything vaguely interesting in their discography.
All that this has proved is that people have different music tastes - and I say thank God for that.
Agree with some of the choices, disagree with others - and there is nothing wrong with the that.
Ah you don't understand music if you dont share my likes:) Yes, on social media I have to point out that I'm kidding.
This world would be VERY boring if we agreed on everything!
Very true that everyone's tastes are different. Pink Floyd's The Wall has grown weary to me over the years. It went from enjoying the full double album, to tolerating a full listen, to now just picking out the songs I want to hear. I haven't listened to the full recording in a single listen for probably 20 years.
A handful of fantastic tracks sprinkled throughout a lot of filler, but for me, it's the previous album Animals that I should love but just don't. It doesn't work for me on almost any level, lyrically or even music arrangements. Taking the classic story of Animal Farm and drawing a completely different conclusion also keeps me from loving that album.
@@drsamurai009 You can like or dislike albums for all kinds of reasons. The Wall is such a huge album that i'd skip huge sections. But there is no doubt its considered a classic, even if we don't care for it.
Animals is less a 'classic', for me I listened to it over and over again for god knows how long, and frankly have never listened to either again.
But difficult albums are like that, many prog bands I am in awe of the piece and can admire it on many levels but mostly find I listen to poppier stuff. My example is that Anthem by Yes is just a monstrously creative piece of work, but I find myself listening to 90125 over and over, despite knowing its not 'better' and is less originail, though its pretty original for pop.
There are people who swear A final cut is their best, but again I listened to it over and over for a shorter period, and haven't again. I like Nick kents pink floyd interview, he goes into detail about why he hates ALL pink floyd after Barrett, particularly after Meddle. Thats likely my favourite.
Yes people have different music tastes, If everyone was the same it would be boring. But having differing opinions make's it boring too because music discussion all tends to be the same, It's almost all
-Complaining about music you find overrated.
-Whining about music acts selling out.
- Trying to put more attention on music you think is underrated, but trust me ,nobody is really interested.
The internet is mostly an echo chamber no matter what the subject. I read a quote recently that was so true "most people don't want to hear your opinion, they want to ear their own opinion coming from your mouth"
Great concept. Some of these albums were huge sellers because they are more commercial sounding than other albums by that artist, so ultimately might be less satisfying to true fans of that artist. Or it could just the timing of the release with some of those mid 80s monsters - ie it was the height of the pop video era (Money for Nothing, Call me Al, Sledgehammer etc) which massively boosted sales - plus with the emergence of the CD format and as a result they were massively overexposed. The Wall I’ve never loved it i listen every couple of years as I much prefer Animals or Wish You Were here.
Omg The Wall was so so important to me for decades, I travelled over 1000 miles and paid over 1000 pounds just to hear David Gilmour play Comfortably Numb 😁
Can't fault your choices. Pretty much spot on.
i totally disagree.. this guy has no substantial comments about these really good albums. He is an absoultely hopeless critic. who the hekk is he anyway...just random drivel from him.
I have always HATED Walk Of Life, but I have always loved certain songs on this album such as Brothers In Arms and Your Latest Trick.
The wall I have always found tedious too.
The only thing I like about The Wall is Gilmour's solo.
I loved it when it came out. Over the years I found it more and more tedious. Now the only songs I still listen to are Comfortably Numb and Mother.
Pretty spot on but cannot agree with Yellow Brick Road and Graceland.
Yeah, I love the sound on YBR. Think it suits it perfectly.
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. Legendary and very important for its time but I rather listen to Revolver or the White Album.
Totally. I remember giving it a re- listen a few years back and being stunned how bad it is. Many songs are highly annoying. I once thought it was great
@@Bluepilled-c5tI mean you are entitled to your own opinion but calling it “bad” is kind of ridiculous, Day In A Life might be their best song ever.
@@mbrownie22 true has a good song on it, I actually like sgt P reprise too. Help from my friends not bad, But the filler stuff is diabolical. I can see why George H didn’t turn up much.
Amen
I'd definitely rather listen to Revolver or Abbey Road... maybe Rubber Soul, too. Not so much The White Album because it's sort of a slog to get through. They really should've tightened White Album up a bit. To me, it's weighed down by about a dozen tracks of filler.
I totally agree with you about The Wall. It has all the Floyd darkness and pain without the lyricism, sweetness and transcendent beauty of their preceding work. As far as I'm concerned, Animals was the LAST Pink Floyd album.
I also agree about Brothers in Arms, Kid A, and Yellow Brick Road. Brothers in Arms is a pretty lame album overall, I would say. I bought it years ago, listened to it once, and never again. I found Kid A to be a total musical collapse after the soaring heights of The Bends and OK Computer. And of course Radiohead never recovered from that fall. In fact their music just kept getting worse. As for Yellow Brick Road, I think it was too diluted and unfocused, and would have benefited (at least musically, if not financially) from having been released as a single album instead of a double. To me, the five albums that preceded it, as well as the two that followed are all better than Yellow Brick Road.
I won't speak to Brave or An Innocent Man, as I don't know those albums. Nor will I say much about Pinups, since it's not a very important album, and is not one I've ever heard anyone praise, recommend to me or tell me I should like, let alone love.
I've never been a big Peter Gabriel fan outside of Genesis, but I do think So is an extremely strong album, containing some really fine songs. I've also never been a big Eagles fan ... I find them to be elitist and pretentious, and their concert tickets have been unbearably expensive for at least 30 years. So they can kiss my ass. Having said that, I consider Hotel California to be an unreserved masterpiece, beginning to end. As is Graceland, in my view. Unlike The Eagles, Paul Simon is a likeable fellow, and that album was not only profound and beautiful, but also revolutionary. A magnificent work.
As for other albums I should love ... but just don't, let me start with The Beatles' Let It Be and Sgt. Pepper. While Abbey Road, the White Album, Revolver, Rubber Soul and Help! are all jewels in the crown of popular music, I think even Magical Mystery Tour is better than Sgt. Pepper. Other albums I'm not crazy about are the Stones' Exile on Main St., Dylan's Blonde on Blonde, Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti (and everything they released after it), David Bowie's Low, Heroes and Lodger, King Crimson's Red, and Boston's debut album, which I loathe (did they release others or just that one?)
Totally agree with all of these with the exception of Pinups and Yellow Brick Road. I also agree with Animals being the last great PF album! Great content as always!
Plus - as I have stated in a reply to another person in this thread - “Pin Ups” sounds absolutely brilliant on my vinyl set-up !
Yellow Brick Road is the big exception here for me. I think that album is as epic as everyone says it is.
same agree i had pinups on vinyl previous collection animals also last summer bought e hoes cd comp nothing on wall comes close to the dogs suite of course had vinly current reissue ridiculous expensive never see used g.c.
Sorry guys I love The Wall. I love Animals, but The Wall it's sheer breadth of musical ideas are a delight to listen to.
Otherwise, I understand choices well, but I can't find any fault with Peter Gabriel's So. Yes, Melt is probably Gabriel's best solo album, but I also like this a lot.
Interesting list….I was surprised at SO and Yellow Brick (two of my favorite albums)….but all I kept saying to myself is “don’t say Crest of a Knave….don’t say Crest of a Knave!” Lol
To be honest there are loads of tracks that I love from different bands,but rarely do I like the whole album.
This.
Totally agree about brothers in arms. Spoiled totally by walk of life and money for nothing
Fascinating. These are mostly albums that I have, at some point, loved, then fallen out of love with, and in some cases fallen back in love with. So I can appreciate both sides.
Dire Straits’ “Walk of Life”. Not too long ago I was having one of those days when nothing was going right. Walking into a grocery store later that day, the ghastly keyboard opening to “The Walk of Life” started playing and I let out an inappropriately loud f-bomb. Everyone stared at the crazy man who then wisely decided to forego the shopping and proceeded directly home. Day over. Damn you, Mr. Knopfler! 😆
I hear ya', nothing more obnoxious than crappy grocery store music after a lousy day!
I would've had the same exact reaction if they'd played that or Money For Nothing.......................CAN'T STAND either one of those!! (But I DO love the Straits, don't get me wrong). Also, never understood how So Far Away wasn't as big a hit as those two....................it's about 10X BETTER!
I also despise that song.
Same thing happened to me in a Walmart recently, but it was "Big Yellow Taxi" which I hate all the more
@@davidl570Love Dire Straits too! Until the Brothers in Arms album that is. Like Mark’s solo work also.
LOL. I always hear it as "Here comes Jonny singin' oldies goldies, be bop beluga baby, what I say".
Walk of life by Dire Straits has been annoying me for years as well haha.. :)
same classic rock channel skip button as fast as possible same ghits cd
Nothing to Radio Ga Ga
'A rock opera rendering of the Stanley Baxter Show'? Top drawer.
I agree with all of your choices except Kid-A. For me, it's a beautiful album that works on all levels. I recently binge-watched 'Blake's 7' which was my first viewing since the originals were aired. That show was never as good after Blake (Gareth Thomas) went missing. Cheers.
I still have Kid A rated as a 4.5 star album, but the further I get away from its release date, the more I think it's overrated in the grand scheme of things. If you dig into 1980s and 1990s electronic music, Kid A is not as original as it's made out to be.
For me the turning point is the new Travis. Help me out. I'm a big fan, too, but I could not make the connection between Kid A and Blake's 7..
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 What I find most impressive about Kid A is the way it almost perfectly blends rock and techno. It's something bands like Genesis. U2, R.E.M. and others had attempted in the '80s and '90s but never quite mastered the way Radiohead did it.
@jhillst Boy, I don't hear much rock on Kid A, which is part of why I drifted away from Radiohead a little bit in the '00s. I'm a rock music lover, so when Radiohead stopped writing guitar-based rock songs and went for an electrono-pop sound, it was a change I respected but wasn't head-over-heels in love with. I do agree Kid A is an exceptionally good stab at techno for what had previously been a rock band. But songs-wise, it's definitely not as iconic as OK Computer.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 I like OK Computer and The Bends very much indeed. But for some reason I really engaged with their Kid-A/Amnesiac incarnation. Maybe its the Abstract nature of it. After Amnesiac, I feel they lost something that is hard to qualify. Even so, I do thoroughly enjoy the later albums (except King of Limbs). Cheers.
Never mind the music, let’s have discussion on The Stanley Baxter Show, I loved that show every Saturday night.
stanley was great,was it on every saturday,i thought he only did lavish,big budget christmas specials
@@elbib2446 Saturday nights, I’m not sure how many seasons it ran for.
@@slinkysurfer Nine seasons, I think. 🧐
Oh man I hated Stanley Baxter. The whole lewd pantomime stuff with him dressed up singing innuendo laden songs. Some of the most cringeworthy attempts at comedy I've seen
Here here. My parents saw him in the 50’s in Glasgow in various stage shows, said he was fantastic/hilarious.
Ten albums I should love but I hate:
10) Eagles /ST
9) Eagles /Desperado
8) Eagles / On the Border
7) Eagles / One of These Nights
6) Eagles / Hotel California
5) Eagles / The Long Run
4) Eagles / Long Road Out of Eden
3) Don Henley / Building the Perfect Beast
2) Don Henley / End of Innocence
1) Glenn Frey / the aptly titled No Fun Allowed
Couldn't agree more, though my list would have to include most of Bowie's output as well. I realise that makes ne some kind of heretic, but I never understood or realy enjoyed Bowie albums. Some of the singles are fabulous though.
@@richardsinger01 He was very talented (and seemed like a nice humble guy) but I could never get into his music. Just never did it for me.
I"m with you...I am NOT an Eagles fan. I do like Joe Walsh though......he always puts on a great show.
@@richardsinger01 Hunky Dory is the only Bowie album worth listing to.
RDRRR
I had the same feelings as you about Kid A initially but I did come to look upon it as their greatest moment, along with Amnesiac. Much as I love OK Computer, those two eclipsed it for me.
Agree with most of this except for “Goodbye Yellow Brick Road” which is by Far Elton’s Best Album, it’s a beautifully recorded epic. He never got near it again!!
that and captain fantastic think was the last with dee davey nigel bernie together im.the one had a different writer forget who
Agree - I've never tired of it. I would swap it out on this list for Madman Across the Water. Everyone raves but I think it's the low point of Elton's golden era. That and Caribou, but no-one talks that one up.
Absolutely. I don't agree with a few of the choices, but especially GBYBR. Not only Elton's best, but his best by some margin. Apart from the classic singles, deep cuts such as Harmony and I've Seen That Movie Too, are 2 of my all time favourite songs, let alone Elton Songs. Absolutely epic Album.
@@MrJambug I've Seen That Movie Too is my favourite Elton song. And Harmony is the perfect closer. What an album - from to opening wind chimes to the final "ahhh -Aaaaaaah!"
@@Fuzcapp yep, I didn't even mention the opening salvo of Funeral For A friend and Loves Lies Bleeding. What an introduction!! As you say, from start to finish an absolute classic.
I'm aligned with most of your choices, notable exceptions being The Wall, Brave, and Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, all of which I continue to love.
Oh, and I agree with Lebowski.
"The plane has crashed into the Goddamn mountain, Mr. Lebowski!!"
Agree entirely with your take on "Brothers in Arms".........One of the worst songs ever is "Walk of Life" a truely forgettable homage to John that he probably would have hated too. Making Movies was the pinnacle of this bands life and everything after "Love Over Gold" should never have happened.
Save for the two title tracks of Brothers In Arms and On Every Street. Otherwise agree.
funny i was driving yes. romeo and juliet came on hadnt heard in a long time alchemy new reissue super expensive but arms we never liked
@@marktait2371 I've seen the big new live box set on Apple Music and thought "why?". It includes Alchemy and On The Night, plus one great show from the early years with songs from DS and Communique on it. Alchemy for me is distinguished by having the two worst songs from Moving Pictures and lacking the songs I like from Love Over Gold, but it's already a release; they could have found some recordings from the Moving Pictures era when Pick was still in the band and released those instead. I just listen to the Rainbow theatre show (disc 5) and turn off when Phil Lynott comes on with a bunch of generic rock-and-roll covers.
Making Movies had Les Boys, the by far shittiest track Mark Knopfler ever puked out. BiA is fine except for Why Worry, which sucks and Walk of Life which is indeed a bit irritating but harmless fun. Can't go wrong with Ride Across the River, Man's too Strong and the title track though.
I'm not a Brit so I don't know your reference, but I suspect "a rock opera rendering of the Stanley Baxter show" is a pretty savage put down! Agreed on many of these for sure, though I still have a soft spot for Graceland. One of many I have similar feelings about is The Who's Quadrophenia, though I have stretched my tolerance for it over the years, still feel it's patchy and not a masterpiece.
I always preferred Kid A to the earlier Radiohead, but what made me like it even more is seeing them perform those songs live in 2001. No matter how odd they sounded at first, they still rocked.
I like almost all of these albums. I believe three are excellent.
Totally agree with you about Kid A. "Dreary, whiney nonsense" Excellent!
However, I totally disagree with Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. I love 70s Elton and this stands along side Tumbleweed, Honky Chateau as his very best
There are two albums that I regularly see in lists of greatest albums of all time that I just don't get..."Trout Mask Replica" by Captain Beefheart and "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea" by Neutral Milk Hotel...I really think that both are incredibly overrated whereas quite a few of my friends disagree with me...but that is the beauty of music and our individual tastes.
I'm with you. After many many listens I've come to respect those two albums, but I will never love them.
With you on TMR. I returned it. Much prefer Safe as Milk
For douchers only. Both albums.
Great T-shirt, Barry - one of the very BEST albums of all time! I agree with nearly all of your choices here, especially Billy Joel's 'An Innocent Man', and your sentiments regarding him. I grew up listening to 'Turnstiles', 'The Stranger', '52nd Street' and 'Glass Houses' on repeat, but no-one else seemed to know who I was talking about. Then 'Uptown Girl' was released and suddenly everyone was a fan (but still didn't know his older, better material). An album that I feel I should like, but don't, is Steve Hackett's 'Voyage of the Acolyte'. I try to, but just can't get into it. Maybe I should try again. Same goes for King Crimson's 'In the Court of the Crimson King'. Apart from 'Epitaph', which is sublime, it doesn't do much for me.
Agree with this list with one exception: Yellow Brick Road. Love that one.
I love it too. But, I saw Elton doing the entie album in a concert in Montreal in the 80's and it sounded much better live.... probably the best concert I have ever been to. So, I too think a re-mix of the album must be a good idea.
Agree - I've never tired of it. I would swap it out on this list for Madman Across the Water. Everyone raves but I think it's the low point of Elton's golden era. That and Caribou, but no-one talks that one up.
Yeah I’m a massive fan of ‘Funeral for a friend /Love Lies Bleeding’ ‘Grey Seal’ - like so many, better as a single LP?
I fully agree with your appraisal of the wall , even as a young fanboy buying it all those years ago I realised it was overblown amateur opera towards the end, with a few classic floyd gems in there on the earlier sides..
AC/DC Back in Black
Eagles Long Run
Any Aerosmith album
Any Springsteen album
Any Radiohead album.
More than ten but what can you do?
It's all personal opinion of course, but difficult to see how you can write off the whole back catalogues of major bands/artists unless you've listened to all their albums (more than once). Maybe you have, but I would say that the early albums by all three of those acts are much better than the albums that came after they became well known. But perhaps you've listened to all those early albums and still don't like them, in which case - fair enough!
Rocks is killer
@@stevenhenry5267 exactly
Marillion: Brave. The most misery inducing piece they have ever made - Portishead would sound cheerful by comparison. The only one of the deluxe box sets I didn't buy - and I won't (yet I am normally a completist!)
I'm really not a fan of ok computer, thom Yorke needed twenty minutes on a bouncy castle.
Anything by the Stones. I like so many of their songs, but every album I've listened to about half of it I could do without. I can kind of see the point with Paul Simon's Graceland, the one release with the demo tracks, I actually prefer some of the demos over the album track.
Totally agree about the Stones. With possibly a few exceptions, their albums are 3 or 4 great songs and a whole lot of filler. I'm not normally a fan of "best of..." albums, but for the Stones, that's the best way to enjoy them.
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. I love Carpet Crawlers, but that's it. I get nothing from the concept, can't relate to it, and coming after SEBTP, it all sounds very 'cold' for want of a bettter description.
Should've been a single album, and the story it's based around (written in the album's jacket) isn't all that interesting or compelling.
Hairless Heart shines the best tune. Otherwise a mediocre album. Gabriel left rightly after the tour says it all.
Lamb ( a bit like Yes' Oceans & Floyd's Wall ) is an album most prog fans approach with a certain amount of trepidation.......
You're spot on with Carpet Crawlers tho - an out and out classic !
I can agree with a lot of this. I see your point about Brothers In Arms, but I do think side two in particular is a great moody rumination on war.
An Innocent Man was my introduction to Billy Joel as a kid. And I do enjoy a bit of the doo-wop style so it’s not a problem for me. But I can see how a long-standing fan of his earlier work would not enjoy him becoming so big.
I do think the album is brilliantly written performed though with some of his very best vocals. Leave a Tender Moment Alone is just superb.
Agree about Pink Floyd.
Yellow Brick Road is a classic IMO,
I'm a huge Peter Gabriel fan and I'm with you on So - Melt/Security/Live are immense albums with a real innovative sound. So has some very good songs but for me I always preferred Security and Us! However, absolutely not with you on Graceland - I first heard that at 9 years old and it is really deeply engrained in me - the rythems and basslines are immense and the lyrical imagery is superb!
Nowhere is it written anyone has to love anything. I still don't "get" Pet Sounds.
I agree. It's a "classic", but one of the dullest albums I've ever listened to.
I finally got round to listening it recently, hoping for great things only to find it almost unlistenable. I'll probably never play 'Pet Sounds' again.
@@HoundPig I think "The SMiLE Sessions" is much more interesting, IMO.
I bought it once because I read everywhere how great it is. It is not. Never listened to it again. The Beach Boys are very overrated. A few good songs, thats it.
"Wouldn't It Be Nice" is the only song I like on that album.
I really got deep into Brave in the mid-90s, because it was so ambitious and sonically dense. There are songs on there that I still love (Runaway, Hollow Man, Falling from the Moon, Made Again) but overall it was hard work. I think I wanted to love it more than I did.
When Adraid of Sunlight came out next, it was such a relief. An album of great songs linked by a common theme, but not beholden to it.
I agree Floyd animals was their last great album.
Absolutely correct!
Animals has become my favorite Floyd album, nearly tied with Wish You Were Here. But I can safely say that The Wall (both the album and film) changed my life in 5th grade. Hell, it even changed my handwriting--I still sign my t's with sharp slanted flourishes à la Gerald Scarfe.
I enjoy The Wall but I agree it's not a true Floyd album.
Animals is their worst of the modern era. Highly over rated by fans. The songs are just ok jam songs, they lack essential vitamins and vigour of their masterpieces. Of which The Wall is one
I put it at Wish You Were Here.
I love Innocent Man! To me that was the best Joel output - 50's, Gospel, rock n roll, pop, boogie - all there and every song is spot on - the 'best in class' version (stylistically) of each of those genres and affectations...
Do I listen to Elton's GYBR as an old man in 2024? Rarely. Is it bloated. Yes. Was it brilliant at the time? Absolutely. EJ took elements of all the genres swirling around in the early 1970's and presented them to a pop audience. As a kid I was blown away by Funeral. It probably was the first long-form prog song I'd really listened to. The glam of Bennie! The old school rock of Saturday Night! The piano fronted RnB sound! C'mon. That album changed my life, led me right to the sources when i was old enough to steal my own records :-)
Terrrific analysis man
Respect for musical creations versus loving the same music is not always the issue. It can be both, either, or neither. Opinions are common. Insight is rare. Thanks for focusing on bringing us more of the latter!
Edit: I forgot to include my list of influential albums as you requested. I’ll keep it to three, in chronological order: Naturally by Three Dog Night, perhaps their best and very important personally, and the fabulous group gets no love from critics because they were only hit makers and not hit writers and I always loved them; A Farewell to Kings by Rush, which is not on most lists of greatest Rush albums, but it’s the one that convinced me these guys were truly special and not just competently interesting; and Duke by Genesis, which was the point from which I began to acquire all their past and future albums. There are, of course, several others in my own pantheon of rock music greatness, but this trio were personal pivot points and that perspective always matters.
I like just about every album up to wind and wuthering more than selling England!
Music is subjective. Everyone likes different things. You made several great points in your video. Thanks so much for sharing Barry! I look forward to your next video.
For me, I was 9 or 10 when ‘The Wall’ came out. A neighbor who was a little older, maybe 12-13 had a copy and being exposed to mostly top 40 pop I was honestly a little frightened by this music with the heavy themes, strange voices, and sinister sound effects, not to mention the bizarre cover art. I became obsessed with wanting my own copy and did chores for a neighbor until I had enough to buy one. Being so young, I never really could get into it; I couldn’t understand it the way I could understand a 2:30 pop song. But I would force myself to listen to it. And I did over and over again. I never really understood the adult themes back then or really what the album was about and never lost my uneasy fascination with it. Eventually I outgrew my obsession but never lost the fascination. Even as a teen, the album seemed spooky but I did start to apppreciate many of the songs, like ‘Mother’ and ‘Comfortably Numb.’ But again, I never lost the creepy unnerving when listing to, or even thinking about the album. Then RUclips came along and has completely deconstructed it to the point where there is honestly no mystery left to any part of the music, the process of making the music, band dynamics, honestly nothing. This used to be a masterpiece. Now it’s almost an afterthought. Although I love to understand things, but I think that knowing every little detail takes away the mystique to such a degree that it almost ruins it. Sad to say that this is what has happened here in this case, at least for me…
I've never cared for Peter Gabriel's stuff after Genesis. Those were wonderful albums.
This is a relevant list, I share much of the same feelings about these albums. Loved the channel already but this video stands out ….
Some of these are just so over played on radio that what I once loved is now hatted.
That's one way to muffle 'em out!
Equally, there are many songs i frickin' hated in their day because of radio overplay. but now I quite like them, since I haven't heard them for a while. I'm thinking especially of the Bee Gees disco period, and ABBA. Also Fleetwood Mac. They all used to grind my gears at the time, but now I quite appreciate them.
Now you should do a list of ALBUMS I SHOULD HATE... but just don't. If ya want. Love the channel
None of the albums mentioned above seem to merit the "should love" phrase. One needs to aim for the sacred cows, which I will presently try to do. The following are albums that most everyone loves but which leave me generally cold:
10. Steely Dan, Can't Buy a Thrill
9. Springsteen, Born to Run
8. Carole King, Tapestry
7. Eagles, Hotel California
6. Patti Smith, Horses (or anything else by Patti)
5. The Clash, London Calling
4. ELP, Pictures at an Exhibition
3. Genesis, Selling England by the Pound
2. Neil Young, After the Gold Rush (or, alternatively, Harvest)
1. Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon
Agree DS of the Moon 🌙
Love Selling England and ELP
LOVE ‘Selling England by the Pound’ and IMO ‘Can’y buy a thrill’ is a masterpiece. Not a weak track. But hey, art is entirely subjective.
Selling England and After the Gold Rush... interesting choices, to each their own.
Agree on DSotM. It's the one I've tried harder to love than any other album, giving it about a hundred chances over the years, and only because of how I love other PF work. In the end, I love about 20% of it.
@@bitcortex1991 Snap. The first album I bought was Abbey Rd, Beatles. Played it to death. Have a pet theory (no one agrees with😀) that DSOTM was Pink Floyd emulating the production standards of that album, which worked so well because the Beatles agreed to defer to their great producer to pull it off.
I think it was a template for Floyd re how to make an album which would break them in America/around the world. I still play Abbey Rd and it still sounds great.
I couldn’t understand why everyone but me thought DSOTM was so great. It is a “great”
album but it stands on the shoulders of Abbey Rd for me .. making up half its towering greatness 😀
Very commendable list. I may disagree with only one, the Peter Gabriel album. It's a mood and a feel and has its own charm through some of the lesser desirable tracks. But when it's good, it's superb. Definitely can't argue about the Billy Joel and Dire Straits albums. I may also kind of disagree on the Eagles album, but for me that's hit or miss, depending on mood. Nevertheless, I completely have to agree about The Wall. Side 4 does have one worth song, "Run Like Hell", which makes Side 4 hard to listen to, but does pay off in the middle of it and then turn it off once that song is over.
I love Pinups. Apart from See Emily Play, every track is better than the original.
Plus - if you have a good vinyl
set-up - yes this reply is from one of the “old school” - Pin Ups really packs a punch ! Anyway, I can see why the reviewer - given the “original” stuff Bowie came up
with - could come to the conclusion he has - I suppose it’s “Vivre La Difference !”
So and Brothers In Arms both got a lot of perks by reviewers who said these were must haves on CD.
I won't say that...but I will say that it's one of my favorite Bowie albums to listen to.
I just love Pin Ups, I play it often. The band is just so tight, great album!
ahree see emily play kinda nothing but the rest is pretty good
So true that Us is Gabriel's best album , I Adore it , saw him in 93 on this tour what a Great Concert!. So true again about the song Walk of Life by Dire Straits, It is most likely the song played on a loop too residence of hell....also on the Wall by Floyd its only Gilmours In the Flesh guitar parts that absolutly floor me, its so grand and epic and the guitar work in Hey You stands out also; there are 3 other great songs on the record the rest is a borefest.
My List are ........
Blackstar - David Bowie
Joshua Tree - U2
Appetite for Destruction - G N' R
Heartbeat City - The Cars
Thriller - Michael Jackson
Pet Sounds - The Beach Boys
Out of the Blue - ELO
The Piper at the Gates of Dawn - Pink Floyd
Permanent Vacation [Era] - Aerosmith
Born in the USA - Bruce Springstein
Purple Rain - Prince
Of course. There are others over 50 years.
Agree on Blackstar - sympathy vote. If Bowie hadnt passed away I think that album would have been viewd as a load of tripe!
good list
Joshua, Appetite and Piper... should be LOVED!!!
last summer i bought a 2cd set aero. ultimate collection got for cd1 never listened to 2
Yeah…totally agree on Joshua Tree, Purple Rain and Thriller. Never got Prince for some reason, and never liked U2 beyond the very early days
"A rock opera rendering of The Stanley Baxter show", Now that's a good one.
All I hear about The Eagles is how Don Henley does not like fans singing or playing his songs ,so thats a red flag .
The problem with Don Henley is his obsessive sense of self-importance.
Don Henley does not like anyone or anything beyond himself. He's a kill joy whom I like to pretend does not exist.
May God bless Bernie Leadon and Don Felder, and may Randy Meisner forever RIP.
And of course he often mimes to his own voice in concerts nowadays. Maybe he should sue himself?
I try to separate artist from art. Richie Blackmoor was apparently a tremendous prick too, but I still love his playing. But hey, even Beato complains about Henley, along with Metallica, coming after his "What Makes This Song Great" videos breaking down their work.
Pretty capitalistic of him
Agree with all of these except Pin Ups Bowie. I remember when this was released we were told he was leaving the music business and this was his last album. I still enjoy it. With Yellow Brick Road the advantage of listening to vinyl was Side 1 and then Side 3 were the best of the album so these are the main ones I played and missed the rest. Cheers!
I didn't know you were _supposed_ to like Pin Ups. I aways thought of it as a cool Bowie covers album that nobody likes.
I have not played it in decades, perhaps time to try again. It is no sacred cow, it is OK to consider it not a sacred cow.
The first Stone Roses album. The Clash; London Calling. Pink Floyd; Dark Side Of The Moon. Spiritualized; Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space (and I'm a huge fan of Spacemen 3 and early Spiritualized). Any albums by Led Zeppelin, The Smiths, The Cure, Oasis and Depeche Mode. Don't hate any of the aforementioned just don't have any of it.
I feel the same about the Clash albums. I like "Give 'Em Enough Rope" as it has some real anthems like "Tommy Gun", but "London Calling" leaves me oddly disengaged and needed a few rougher edges. The songs are good, but it seems they should of left some of the songs for "Sandanista".
For context I was 22 years old when The Wall was released. I remember being so excited when I bought it, unwrapped it, put it on the turntable. I have never been so disappointed, so let down by any record as I was by The Wall. There was such a disconnect from the soaring progressive grandeur of all their previous recordings. It was so boring and so disco-tinged that I can still taste the betrayal to this day.
Wow, rarely do I see a Floyd fan mirror this same opinion. But it’s so true, people talk about The Wall like it’s on the same level or even better than Wish You Were Here or The Dark Side of the Moon. I don’t know what they are hearing.
@@ThinWhiteLuke For me it's their best album. But it helps that it is a double album.
Totally with you on 'Brothers in Arms'. Music for Hi-Fi demonstration rooms. 'So' isn't a patch on Gabriel's masterpiece, his third solo album from 1980, and the brilliant 1982 follow up, but is still a good record. And I agree on 'Graceland' as well. I love listening to music from various African countries but I don't really want it backing Paul Simon. He started writing songs to rhythms at this time which rather dulled the melodic gifts of one of the greatest tunesmiths of all time. Far from a bad record, but not as great as people made it out to be.
Yeah good analysis
Eh, I don't LOVE Graceland but I do like it. I'd take it over The Rhythm of the Saints anytime.
If you grew up alone on a desert island and a big crate of albums washed ashore you wouldn't understand the concept of "supposed to like" an album. We're all so prone to pressures of society.
"We're all prone to the pressures of society" Not me when it comes to music. Society can fk off.
Here's mine
The Works-Queen
Definitely Maybe-Oasis
Anything by Green Day
London Calling-The Clash
Thriller-Michael Jackson
To Pimp A Butterfly-Kendrick Lamar
Ram-Paul McCartney
A Hard Day's Night-The Beatles
Brothers In Arms-Dire Straits
The Final Cut-Pink Floyd
Hotel California-Eagles
The Clash has never done shit for me.
Even though I'm not the target audience I've grown to really like this channel. Hopefully he's just busy going to gigs and longer videos return. If not it's still great. Keep it up 👍
Disagree about Graceland, GYBR and The Wall. Especially The Wall. Who cares if it’s a RW album? It’s a masterpiece. So are Animals, DSOTM and WYWH but that doesn’t mean The Wall isn’t or can’t be.
That T-Shirt looks ace
Great album cover that as you probably know it’s on seconds out by Genesis 👍
@@pipandkitty2004 I do. It works great on a black T-Shirt though
I am so happy you brought up Kid A.. they made The Bends and OK Computer and then people say Kid A was the masterpiece. I guess my ears just don't hear what others are hearing.
Don’t feel bad about not liking The Wall. Talk about overblown… And it doesn’t help that the hits were driven into the ground by relentless radio play…
I agree about the hits being ruined by overexposure. But I still think the album is brilliant. But I also think it does have more to do with Waters and his subsequent work than it does with Floyd’ previous work. Animals was the last great Floyd album. Certainly my favourite
Mostly agree with you there, and even where I don't I can see where you're coming from. But Pin-Ups is wonderful, and it's no crime to not be quite as good as Aladdin Sane & Diamond Dogs.
I bloody love Pin-Ups. For starters, Bowie's sexed-out no-messing on I Can't Explain blows the knickers off The Who's rushed, fumbling ecru original.
I'll go with ....
Uriah Heep - "Abominog"
Status Quo - "On the Level"
Deep Purple - "Fireball"
Sweet - "Desolation Boulevard" (UK version)
Eagles - "Hotel California"
The Beatles - "The Beatles / White Album"
Slade - "Old, New, Borrowed and Blue"
Flipping this theme on its head ... albums I shouldn't love, but I do ....
The Osmonds - "The Plan"
Bruce Springsteen - "We Shall Overcome"
The Eagles - "The Long Run"
Thank goodness someone else put The White Album on their list. I felt like I was committing heresy. I still like Slade's Old New Borrowed and Blue.
Agree re The White Album but I like several tracks on it. They bashed it out .. sounds like .
Fireball is one of my favourites Gillan loved it Ritchie didn’t. Anything following “In Rock” was going to be perceived as going down a notch.
@@FuzcappDuring my boredom in Covid I created a playlist called the ‘Right Album’ where I cut out all the crap and made it a normal LP length. Was interesting to see most of Paul’s stuff got the chop!
Yeah the White Album, like many have suggested in the past, should’ve been a single LP - too much dross
Really appreciate your nuanced opinions on these albums!
What's The Story Morning Glory...an absolute slog. It actually angers me it was so successful. 😂
I love it!
There are a couple-three songs on it that have grown stale for me. But for the most part, I still like that album.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1as the years have gone on, I have found the production to be lacking. It sounds very thin and there are 0 dynamics to it.
Granted I'm someone who loves Standing on the shoulder of Giants and how it sounds.
Agree with The Wall. I'd include Pet Sounds for sure and the Who's Tommy.
Radiohead. Will never get the fascination with this boring band.
You are not alone, trust me.
I am a super Gabriel man and SO always felt like "single and ready to mingle" rather than anything more substantial. Great rhythm section work, but ehhhhhh - I was born in 1984 so when this came out I did love this album (thanks mom and dad lol)
Always loved Floyd but in particular the early material, especially obscured by clouds. But The Wall would have been a great single album. As a double? It’s far too heavy going and dull as dish water.
Wrong. Superb songs on that album
@Mambojambo157 wrong! the wall is garbage 🗑
Dish Waters, yeah sure
Hate - The Wall (which is a Roger Waters solo album except for Comfortably Numb, the only truly great moment)
Dislike - Kid A
Indifferent - Pin Ups, An Innocent Man
Like - Brave, GYBR, Graceland, Hotel California, Brothers in Arms
Love - So
Automatic For The People and New Adventures In Hi-Fi by REM. You won’t find a bigger fan of REM’s ‘80s material than me, so I am a huge fan of REM, and it’s not that I dislike their ‘90s material - I love Out Of Time - and there are songs on Automatic….and New Adventures….that I like, but I’ve just never fully connected with those albums in relation to how highly rated they are. Life’s Rich Pageant and Reckoning are their best albums as far as I’m concerned
Love Automatic but can BARELY STAND New Adventures. Don't get why so many REM fans slobber all over the latter. Way too long and self-indulgent. Glad they eventually redeemed themselves with Reveal.
Love both Pageant and Reckoning.
@@davidl570 Yes - even Michael Stipe has said New Adventures is his favourite REM album, but I've long suspected that is mostly due to the fact Patti Smith is on it. It was their first album after their huge new deal with Warners, and you can tell - the production is huge and so clean that you can practically smell the money coming through the speakers, and for me the result is an overly long, middle of the road, somewhat clinical and soulless album. I wouldn't say it's completely terrible - I quite like So Fast So Numb and Be Mine, and Zither and Electrolite are lovely little tunes, but overall the album has always left me a bit cold, and I've never understood why it's always rated and ranked so highly. Sometimes less is more - I always preferred the earlier REM albums with lower production values, when they were a bit more poetic, arty, mysterious and cryptic, and you didn't even know what Stipe was singing about half the time.
Same here. 5 stars everywhere when it came out. Heard "Ebow the Letter" and I'm like, what is this garbage? Rest of the album wasn't any better.
I think Automatic is the only Warner Bros album that comes close to their IRS stuff. 100% agree with you on everything else tho.
Agree with you entirely on 'The Wall'... my sentiments exactly! The other nine mentioned... (except perhaps for the Bowie and Elton John albums)... have never rung in my musical world whatsoever.
‘Blake’s 7’ fans 😂😂
You can get fed up with any album if you play it enough times.
We all love the Pet Sounds, Rumours, Sgt. Peppers and Thriller et al but I couldn't play them every single day. It would do my head in!
Wrong. Reign in Blood. Have listened to it more than any other album, still love it.
Hi Barry & I have to say I agree with all of your picks & several of mine are as follows...
Genesis - Selling England by the Pound
Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn
The Beatles - Revolver
The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main St
The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses
The Who - Tommy
The Clash - London's Calling
Coldplay - Rush of Blood to the Head
U2 - The Joshua Tree
Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run...
Good list. Coincides in several instances with mine. But I forgot "Tommy." I may have to go back and revise.
I am slightly concerned how much I agree with you.
MTV and their music video is what made Brothers In Arms and So popular.
People being mindless and being told what to like made it popular
@@Bluepilled-c5tThe videos were awesome. It wasn't just the band standing there and singing. Money for Nothing and Sledgehammer were what music videos could be. I stopped watching MTV around 2001 when I graduated from college. I'm mean no one sits around anymore and waits for the premier of a music video. That is another topic all together; however, you can blame MTV for reality tv.
@@Bluepilled-c5t There's not much to don't like. But some people find it boring and I understand them.
@@Bluepilled-c5tthat’s the very reason pop music exists
@@michaelwills1926 quite possibly. Seems to be the consistent factor over the years