E-Bike Question of the Day ⚡🚴 Would you use the Wabash RT for touring, commuting, gravel riding, or something else? Let us know in the comments below 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼
The cable rubbing is because in Japan the brake levers are reversed. When it is cabled like they originally built it there will be no cable rubbing. In Japan the left side is for the rear brake and the right side is for the front brake.😁
I went to an Ebike specialty shop in Ann Arbor ( HEH ) 3 months ago and tested all the top ebikes back to back - this one stuck out as the best overall - alot of the more popular ebikes are chunkier and heavier - this was very nimble - was on sale too for apprx $2g and came w/ an extra battery!! A great bike!
Hey! I'm wondering, could you tell me some of the other top ebikes they had at the shop?? I'm having a hard time choosing an ebike and I feel an attraction to this one, it'd really help to know other ebikes you tested. Thanks
Thanks for the review! This bike is on sale for $1,679 at Yamaha right now + a free battery. Which seems like an insane deal. Do I add a fourth ebike to the mix? Might be worth adding this one even if I have to get rid of another.
Yep. Just bought a pair of Crosscore RC for $1,200 each with extra free battery and extended 3 year warranty. What a steal! BTW, these models are due for a replacement. The motor is supposed to be 20% smaller and slightly more powerful.
@@lasticonoclast I’m seeing lots of great deals out there that include free shipping, no sales tax for units shipped out of state, further discounts from the dealer, etc. Feels like an incredible deal!
I am thinking of doing it because I have two bikes. a first gen aventon level and a Cannondale topstone 105. So Ive got garbage groupset and buttery smooth shimano 105. Now this has the GRX 6000 groupset which is the equivalent to shimano 105. could this be what I love about my two bikes combined into 1??? Sure seems like it.
I've owned this bike a couple years. Love it! Just a comment on the review, you cannot charge anything off of the display unit. Unless they've upgraded the software, the port is disabled. Works on the Wabash, but not the Wabash RT.
I do really enjoy riding my Wabash RT, but there are los of concerns. I wanted to buy a rear rack, but it's like they no longer make it. In fact, Yamaha does not seem to really want to support their bike community. Their web presence on bikes is not good. The extra battery price is ridiculous. I also can't use normal water bottles or cages. I can't figure out what to do about that. The computer offers no other normal bike computer information other than speed and trip distance. You need another computer to give you other stats (avg speed, max speed, cadence, etc). The mount for the computer is really awkward. It shouldn't be that hard to find a good spot, but it is. It's a great bike but leaves a lot to be desired on these nuances.
Liked the review and got the bike is great, the only problem I have is the paint on the bike, you mention about the cable management that caused the paint to rub off but that's not the whole problem, its the paint quality, the paint easily scratches and chips at least on mine. I suggest you put some frame protection as soon as possible.
Hope Yamaha expands their US Dealer network to more LBSs - that range & tuning is very impressive and I like having the option for another big & trustworthy brand.
I've had gravel bikes for years. I've been looking at the CrosscoreRC which is billed as a city/fitness bike yet the differences are small to this bike. Flat bar vs drop, 27.5 vs 700c, 11x1 vs 9x2, front suspension vs none. Am I missing something? in some cases I'd argue the RC would be a better gravel bike but it's not marketed that way. The Wabash does have some higher spec parts but it's a lot more money.
I have the CrossCore RC and was thinking the same thing. May possibly need to change the tires for more rugged terrain but it looks practically the same build
Thank you for a very nice and detailed review, I have question regarding sizing I am 5 11 and on website it suggest large is the appropriate size, would you please share some insight. I may order this one online , would like to be as accurate as possible. Thank you
John here, I'm also 5'11" and the medium was comfortable for me. The wheelbase is a little on the longer side which I think helped with that, so if you want a "normal" feel maybe go with the medium and if you want a "roomy" feel then go with the large. Hope that helps!
@@ElectricBikeReport thanks a ton. Would love to see your point of view on BMC’s lifestyle e-bike and wabash xompetitors like Canyon GrizlON and Rose backroad AL
How many bikes offer regenerative brakes and also the ability to recharge the battery when pedaling any dual motor bikes recharge one battery when the other is driving. Love is you all and have a blessed day!!
Regenerative braking is rare, as it requires a special and uncommon type of rear hub motor. It's also not that efficient at this point in time, although some new technologies might help to increase that efficiency. Thanks for watching and asking!
That likely helped a bit, but its results weren't much different from the Yamaha CrossCore RC that had a suspension. It's likely a combination of factors, but with 4 different types of sensors, the motor seems more efficient in its draw from the battery.
@@The1Music2MyEars It is a very, very good price. The 2nd battery and extended warranty are icing, which makes it a great price, yes. Anything remotely close would go for around $2800. Though the dealer network for potential repairs is sparse. People are asking why, how they can sell for that price. I'm thinking they just can't get market share and are trying to make a splash, with a rumored new model and motor coming soon.
@@TheRayDog yes I heard about it the 2025 coming soon. Do you think the motor being 20% smaller equates to even less motor noise? Or is it usually the opposite when decreasing size
@@The1Music2MyEarsI would expect a quieter drivetrain if only because that has been a complaint and I'd expect Yamaha to have responded. My guess is the motor is less to blame than the mechanical train. But I haven't heard it in person. Which, since I ordered an RT without the luxury of a dealer nearby to test ride, I'll find out for better or worse soon.
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E-Bike Question of the Day ⚡🚴 Would you use the Wabash RT for touring, commuting, gravel riding, or something else? Let us know in the comments below 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼
Commuting, but with saddle bags and front basket!
Commuting and fun rides.
All of the Above
All & camping
Commuting, will change the wheels 650b Pirelli Angel GT...
Picked up a Wabash and a Moro 07 during the sale. Im good on ebikes for awhile.
Holy smokes! Way to go! That's an awesome combination.
The cable rubbing is because in Japan the brake levers are reversed. When it is cabled like they originally built it there will be no cable rubbing. In Japan the left side is for the rear brake and the right side is for the front brake.😁
Thanks for this! I was curious as to why there was such a difference.
I went to an Ebike specialty shop in Ann Arbor ( HEH ) 3 months ago and tested all the top ebikes back to back - this one stuck out as the best overall - alot of the more popular ebikes are chunkier and heavier - this was very nimble - was on sale too for apprx $2g and came w/ an extra battery!! A great bike!
Hey! I'm wondering, could you tell me some of the other top ebikes they had at the shop?? I'm having a hard time choosing an ebike and I feel an attraction to this one, it'd really help to know other ebikes you tested. Thanks
Great review of the bike. Mine gets delivered tomorrow - fingers crossed we get on well.
Ooooh, nice! Thanks for the kudos, we hope you love your bike!
Thanks for the review! This bike is on sale for $1,679 at Yamaha right now + a free battery. Which seems like an insane deal. Do I add a fourth ebike to the mix? Might be worth adding this one even if I have to get rid of another.
Yep. Just bought a pair of Crosscore RC for $1,200 each with extra free battery and extended 3 year warranty. What a steal! BTW, these models are due for a replacement. The motor is supposed to be 20% smaller and slightly more powerful.
@@lasticonoclast I’m seeing lots of great deals out there that include free shipping, no sales tax for units shipped out of state, further discounts from the dealer, etc. Feels like an incredible deal!
@@Cosmicfadedwhich dealer?
I am thinking of doing it because I have two bikes. a first gen aventon level and a Cannondale topstone 105. So Ive got garbage groupset and buttery smooth shimano 105. Now this has the GRX 6000 groupset which is the equivalent to shimano 105. could this be what I love about my two bikes combined into 1??? Sure seems like it.
I've owned this bike a couple years. Love it! Just a comment on the review, you cannot charge anything off of the display unit. Unless they've upgraded the software, the port is disabled. Works on the Wabash, but not the Wabash RT.
Hey. I had the moro and just sold it. Was looking for something faster on the street for commuting. How is this to ride on street? Singletrack?
I really appreciate your testing and reporting modes. This is giving me excellent data to makes my decision.
That's what we're here for! Thanks for watching.
I do really enjoy riding my Wabash RT, but there are los of concerns. I wanted to buy a rear rack, but it's like they no longer make it. In fact, Yamaha does not seem to really want to support their bike community. Their web presence on bikes is not good. The extra battery price is ridiculous. I also can't use normal water bottles or cages. I can't figure out what to do about that. The computer offers no other normal bike computer information other than speed and trip distance. You need another computer to give you other stats (avg speed, max speed, cadence, etc). The mount for the computer is really awkward. It shouldn't be that hard to find a good spot, but it is. It's a great bike but leaves a lot to be desired on these nuances.
Liked the review and got the bike is great, the only problem I have is the paint on the bike, you mention about the cable management that caused the paint to rub off but that's not the whole problem, its the paint quality, the paint easily scratches and chips at least on mine. I suggest you put some frame protection as soon as possible.
Look at a new crosscore, paint was already dull by the pedals. Yamaha are hugely on sale right now
I would like to see info on the battery recharge procedure. Can you recharge without removing the battery?
Hope Yamaha expands their US Dealer network to more LBSs - that range & tuning is very impressive and I like having the option for another big & trustworthy brand.
Since ebikes have noise, I think you should compare noise level between off and on, and the different settings without talking 😊
I've had gravel bikes for years. I've been looking at the CrosscoreRC which is billed as a city/fitness bike yet the differences are small to this bike. Flat bar vs drop, 27.5 vs 700c, 11x1 vs 9x2, front suspension vs none. Am I missing something? in some cases I'd argue the RC would be a better gravel bike but it's not marketed that way. The Wabash does have some higher spec parts but it's a lot more money.
Huge sale on yamaha ebikes
I have the CrossCore RC and was thinking the same thing. May possibly need to change the tires for more rugged terrain but it looks practically the same build
Tapered headtube?
Has anyone who bought a sale bike received the second battery? Wondering how long it takes.
I am interested to buy the Wabash RT. I am 1,70 mt (5' 7''') tall, what size do you recommend? Thanks and congratulations for the video.
I 5'7", too. I was leaning towards Medium. Have you found a solid answer to seen one in person?
has more to do with your inseam length. not your height I am 5 foot 6 but my inseam is an insane 26" so small for me absoutely.
What route are you riding?
Thank you for a very nice and detailed review, I have question regarding sizing I am 5 11 and on website it suggest large is the appropriate size, would you please share some insight. I may order this one online , would like to be as accurate as possible. Thank you
John here, I'm also 5'11" and the medium was comfortable for me. The wheelbase is a little on the longer side which I think helped with that, so if you want a "normal" feel maybe go with the medium and if you want a "roomy" feel then go with the large. Hope that helps!
Did you feel like you were putting more weight on your hands in this riding position?
Compred to similar styles bikes, no.
@@ElectricBikeReport thanks a ton. Would love to see your point of view on BMC’s lifestyle e-bike and wabash xompetitors like Canyon GrizlON and Rose backroad AL
İ will buy 1 of Wabash today insallah. After my exprience ı will write here good or bad.
I don't know how on earth the small fits anyone 5' 1" with a 30.7" standover height.
With tires like that and a top tube placement straight across it'll always be tough for shorter riders to mount without really leaning the bike over.
How many bikes offer regenerative brakes and also the ability to recharge the battery when pedaling any dual motor bikes recharge one battery when the other is driving. Love is you all and have a blessed day!!
Regenerative braking is rare, as it requires a special and uncommon type of rear hub motor. It's also not that efficient at this point in time, although some new technologies might help to increase that efficiency. Thanks for watching and asking!
ı loved this bike. ı wish ı could have 1 Wabash.
It's a great ride!
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Not having suspension is why bike has great range
It has a lot to do with how light the bike is and how efficient mid drive motors are.
That likely helped a bit, but its results weren't much different from the Yamaha CrossCore RC that had a suspension. It's likely a combination of factors, but with 4 different types of sensors, the motor seems more efficient in its draw from the battery.
Complaints about cable rubbing are silly, c'mon. Throw a piece of rubber tape on the frame, done.
Looks to be a nice bike but, 48 lbs is too heavy.
Rule of mtb/gravel, each 5 lb less weight costs $1k. A 33 lb high end e-gravel is going to be $5k.
@@TheRayDogwhich means the $1679 sale it's known right now is a steal, right? 😅
@@The1Music2MyEars It is a very, very good price. The 2nd battery and extended warranty are icing, which makes it a great price, yes. Anything remotely close would go for around $2800. Though the dealer network for potential repairs is sparse. People are asking why, how they can sell for that price. I'm thinking they just can't get market share and are trying to make a splash, with a rumored new model and motor coming soon.
@@TheRayDog yes I heard about it the 2025 coming soon. Do you think the motor being 20% smaller equates to even less motor noise? Or is it usually the opposite when decreasing size
@@The1Music2MyEarsI would expect a quieter drivetrain if only because that has been a complaint and I'd expect Yamaha to have responded. My guess is the motor is less to blame than the mechanical train. But I haven't heard it in person. Which, since I ordered an RT without the luxury of a dealer nearby to test ride, I'll find out for better or worse soon.