'Baker Mayfield is an average QB' - Shannon on his performance in win vs. Lions I NFL I UNDISPUTED
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- Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2021
- The Detroit Lions gave the Browns all they could handle, but ultimately Cleveland came away with a 13-10 win. Baker Mayfield threw a touchdown pass, but also threw two interceptions as his struggles continued. Following the win, Baker ran off field without shaking hands and did not speak to media afterward. Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe grade Baker's performance against the Lions.
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'Baker Mayfield is an average QB' - Shannon on his performance in win vs. Lions I NFL I UNDISPUTED
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Y'all still haven't talked about Jon Gruden's suing the NFL
Skip best choice u ever made picking Shannon shape as partner cUz u are annoying use same debates every day get millions robbery skip baseless
Skip talked about every single game of Baker’s career BESIDES the Lions game yesterday 😂😂
right lmaooooo
Arguing like a women lol 😂 learn from skip cuz that’s how it’s done ....
The zero win lions
Shannon is right, people want Baker to be elite instead of looking at him for what he is, an average QB
he's not even average. an average qb in the nfl would win more games with that browns team than baker. they have the best running game, best o-line, one of the best receiving corps, they also have the sack leader and a legit defense. dude is no good.
Baker should be the backup to Case
@@asielnorton345 say it again bro
@@asielnorton345 agreed on all but receiving core
He still better than Cam. Cam in his return lost to a QB with two career victories. Over hyped
Skip likes bringing up Shannon’s pre draft opinion on Darnold like he wasn’t all in on ‘Johnny Football’ being a bigger name in Cleveland than Lebron
Who defects more than Drip Bayless
Yeah, that Johnny Football obsession was weird. Never seen so many people sold on a few highlight clips instead of how somebody actually played.
Facts!
@@gregorylagrange that’s jus typical skip. He still think Tebow joe Montana 2.0
Bro. Skip said he'd take Teebow with the ball last over Brady once upon a time lmao
Shannon played football at the highest level and is and always will be a certified champion!
Thank u!! Skip needs 2 understand he's out of his league wt Shannon when it comes 2 football
He's no DK Metcalf tho
💯
@@ejdolo bruh….
He’s a poor mans version of a poor mans Antonio gates tho let’s be honest . Gates Is the goat tight end
“He hasn’t practiced in two weeks”
“I can tell”
Cam wasn’t on a team and has a better QB rating 5 TDS and no INTs
Baker has some of the best weapons in the league and one of the best olines. despite all the help he is still average at best
Baker is playing with a torn labrum and it's clearly affecting his play. As someone that's had a torn labrum and dislocated my shoulder 10+ times, it really blows. Get season ending surgery like he should? Get labeled soft. Gut it out? Get labeled bad. Dude is in a can't win situation because of toxic sports media and fans.
@@TheGuyCalledX bro he’s not good
@@TheGuyCalledX what about last year😂😂😂
@@khavongrant8210 Last year he won the Browns their first playoff game in 26 years….maybe you want a different argument
@@khavongrant8210 last year baker played well especially towards the end of the year. The year before he was horrible.
For me, I feel like he regressed so I don't know. He doesn't look like he'll be an elite qb. Average/mid tier moving forward at best. Hope baker proves me wrong but not looking good that's for sure.
Can't blame OBJ Anymore
No one was. Literally the media made that up and ran with it
We won
@@da2552 wouldn’t consider it a win 😹😹
@@da2552 yall escaped vs a team that hasn't won a game
@@slimetotingz3172 a w is a w
Whenever Skip goes “hmmm” you know Shannon is cooking him in the debate
*sees your point *
Hmmmmm
Mmmmmmm
Skip gives a C for Baker Mayfield, but skip gives Aaron Rodgers a D for that game against the Seahawks with a W
The way Shannon say, "Dangerous" at 9:14.. had me hurtin🤣
Baker: *plays terrible against the Lions*
Skip: “Bakers played well against the Ravens”
The level of goalpost moving Skip gets into when he’s talking about a guy that he supports his otherworldly. This man couldn’t be objective to save his life.
Baker has a great WR core, elite Oline, and an elite running game
No excuses for Baker. Especially not against the pathetic Lions lol
Did you watch the game or any browns game oline has been pathetic wr outside of Landry dookie he made Higgins look good as well dpj
@@kennytpg3529 that's because Baker looks like he doesn't know what he's doing out there
There has to be a point where Skip has to be rational.. it’s just delusional
Lil Wayne should've gave him a "Be Rational" chain instead of Drip Bayless
You ever had an argument with a women? That how skip sounds like so I ain't even mad lol Shannon is the man and skip is the diva
@@TheFury295 Your So Right
Skip plays his part for the show.
We watch him for his delusional comments. 😅😅
They pay him to be delusional....
Skip defends Baker more than he does Dak
Skip Full of Sht
@Scotty Six Seven Oklahoma
Cause Baker is white
@@michael350p6 Shut up
@@michael350p6 Dak is white too, his Mom
The Ravens backup QB looked better than Baker did yesterday
Sad, but true.
Tyler Huntley
Against a better defense too.
I think he may be worse than average. He has a great line, great running backs and good/ great receivers and with all that he is still considered average. You put him behind an average line, average receivers, average RB he's pretty much a backup QB for me.
What great receivers? 🤣🤣🤣 Jarvis has been hurt all season and literally lost them a game with 4 drops/fumbles on 3rd and 4th down in the 4th quarter against Pittsburgh... who else do they have? A speedy rookie who gives up on routes? Rashard Higgins who couldnt get a single other team to sign him in the offseason? DPj is his only good reciever, and hes young and has missed like 5 games this year
@@RickSanchez167 if your reply were true Mayfield still has a very good line and a great running game. With an average receivers. Yet his performance is below average. The only thing funny is your opinion.
Exactly man, all that talent on that team..3 starting TE’s..2 RB’s that are arguably top 10 in the league..had Odell..Has Jarvis..peoples-jones..amazing O line and they still stink..barely hanging on above .500 and my ravens have the 2nd most injuries in the league..16 on IR..literally a junior varsity team out there and we’re 7-3…that’s what an elite QB and the best coaching staff and drafting gets you.
How did they even let this game even get that close? A win is a win but still lol
yeah 13 points aint doing it for me
@@jaymere2166 They doing It for Odell That's his number
@@cjfrm3658 😂😂😂
@@jaymere2166 Baker Below Average His Passer Rating 90 Or Under
Swift broke a big one for 6
Baker didn't feel Dangerous yesterday😂😂😂😂😂
Honestly, if I was Cleveland I would trade for Matt Ryan. He's still has an elite arm, with that ready made team, they become a contender.
That's only if Atlanta eats some of that contract. Too much money for him
Agreed. Atlanta needs to do the right thing and let Matt get one last shot at a ring. He doesn’t have many years left.
@@bernarddeocampo1776 Cheaper than signing Baker to a long term contract.
@@Ryan-zt2xw not with that contract though. It's too heavy for any team to take on
@@deontecallaway4026 not at all. Because the Falcons restructured it, he's about to be owed 48.6 million in 2022 and 43.6 million in 2023, no way cheaper than if they extended Baker
They hardly beat the Lions with Tim Boyle, who at college, threw for 1 td and 11 ints
The man doesn't even belong on a college team let alone an NFL one.
Pathetic skip
Aye aye don't disrespect Tim Boyle 😤🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Boyle honestly better than goofball Baker
Why do you always comment 3+ times in one comment section? You're such a try hard.
This gonna be good. Get the 🍿 ladies and gentlemen
LMAOOO only skip would hype up a win against the winless lions 😂
From Any Topic , I know Skips argument before he EVER opens his Mouth, the deflections and Excuses NEVER Change with Skip .
If they both agreed there wouldn't be a show lol
If they had the ability to recognize talent, the Browns would have never drafted him the #1 overall pick!!! That's facts!!!
Well 31 teams passed on a future MVP so apparently nobody can recognize talent
@@mjf2891 OK, and who's the future MVP?
@@mjf2891 ask why they passed
@@tonycook9291 lamar jackson
tony cook Lamar Jackson
I love skip but sometimes he makes me so mad when he’s so bias his argument for baker jus sucks, baker jus sucks😂
he is Mister Biased soooo why do you love him exactly...?
The funny thing is that Baker is the best QB they've had in a long time. I just think the Cleveland browns are just cursed
@Lenny Son Mykz
Peyton hillis
@Lenny Son Mykz Jamal Lewis sucked on the browns lol
How many people even remember Jamal Lewis played for anyone other than the Ravens?
Scary isn't it where Baker is the best QB you've had in a long time.
Browns Pass in the 2004 draft on Big Ben. Let that sink in. Baker may be the best they had in the last 21 years but he is not going to bring them to the super bowl. he is like Uncle Shay said Ave.
Skip's biases are hilarious
I find it hilarious how Skip can be objective when it comes to teams he supports, but when it comes to players he supports or roots against, he’s never objective
I wouldn’t say skip is objective when it comes to the cowboys
Trust me he's not even objective when it comes to his teams lol he wears all his emotions on his sleeve & is always going off of gut feelings and intangibles instead of logic and good arguments 😂 and absolutely will refuse to admit he's wrong even when it's right in his face
I remember when Skip said that Johnny Manziel would be a superstar in the NFL
Only skip would get hyped over a win against a winless lions 😂😂
BARELY too. Lol
I forgot they only have 1 tie lol
If you remember how hard Skip use to go for Johnny Football, Jay Cutler and Tebow then his blinders about Mayfield should not surprise you at all.
i live in michigan and i’ve never heard of this boyle guy baker is boyle with attitude
Skip is so loyal, once he latches onto a player he likes. I actually respect it lol. His belief/conviction in and of them becomes so firm he's willing to climb out on a dangerous public limb while millions of people call him naive, and literally doesn't care lol. He'd be a great buddy to have. Also, for the people sleeping under rocks, half the time he just is saying these things to get people worked up, emotionally invested, the work of a professional entertainer. Also Elite at that lol.
crazy how ppl think he’s actually dumb 😂😂
@@khlonevi1133 yeah it's wild!
“I guess he didn’t wake up feeling..dangerous.”🤨
🤣
Keep telling the truth Shannon!!!!
Bro skip bring up these 11 games like they not playing right now 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I gotta give Baker credit for capitalizing on all the commercials and advertising that he’s got, he’s a smart man and understands his time is limited so he’s banking as much as he can. If he’s a starter somewhere in three years I would be surprised.
If he’s a starter at all in 3 years I’ll be surprised
@Clemster I think Carolina was his one opportunity to prove something and he failed. You can blame the coach or whoever, but a lot of times that one opportunity comes and goes and you don’t get another chance.
If they give baker one of those elite qb contracts I swear 🤦🏿♂️
They won’t. Not at this rate.
Skip actually brought up the weather as an excuse. He’s desperate at this point.
I Love Shannon he keep it 💯 all time ❤️
Skip-“Were about to see what the browns are made of” Shannon “Catchin L’s all the way through” I think shannons right here
Skip: He hadn't practiced for 2 weeks.
Shannon: I could tell.
Mic drop.
This show is must see TV
Baker: Head, shoulders, knees, and toes. Knees and toes.
Lol skip is bias towards average players because he is a average analyst
Skip brought up the Detroit Pistons up in a football debate.....😂, it just doesn't stop
When Unc brought up Troy and Stafford in Detroit 🥶🥶 straight facts
Big facts
Case Keenum should be playing fr. Shoulda been the last few weeks.
At this point, it’s better to have a healthy Case Keenum starting than an injured Baker Mayfield.
Unc too funny he said he ain’t wake up feeling dangerous 😂😂😂
Baker is just average and even at that all the other pieces around him need to be near perfect for him to be average I like his attitude but we need someone else if we really wanna go in a deep playoff run
He seems really injured. Keenum should start next week
He’s being very selfish by continuing to play with all of those injuries.
I think right now pressure is on him...last thing I would want in his shoes is to not play...then the backup QB comes in and team wins. ...and gets on a little streak. Kinda like Nick foles..Carson Wentz...and in a contract year too...I'd be out there hobbling too
@@TAHJ1987 Sounds like you hit on the exact thing that might be happening. No reason to play with all those injuries otherwise.
You know when skip says ‘mmm’ non stop he’s getting his excuses loaded up lol
Shannon played hurt and at a high level. That 2000 Raven team played in the most physical division in NFL History. Ravens..Titans..Steelers...Browns...Bengals.
Skip got Shannon with that question at 10:39 😂
Baker been injured since week two this year, he was killing it week 1
That's so true about people WANTING Baker to be a player.
I have done nothing but cheer and support Baker and talk smack on his behalf, and the last few weeks have really done something emotional to us Browns fans...He should be right there with the best QB's in the league...half the time you might aswell just put me out there...
Born and raised in Cleveland (left as adult), so always a Browns fan. I want to love and trust Baker-but now he has to prove it. OK, he’s hurt, I’ll see what he can do when healthy but then decisions must be made.
I don't even watch this show, but the guy in the checkered jacket was kicking science.
Tom Brady is average Baker Mayfield has no business on a Football Field
Thats right Shannon!!!!!
Unc spitting facts
Bro I love skips “hmm” every time Shannon makes a point no matter what the argument is about
Mmmmm
I had 3 legger ...ravens,browns, and niners and I dodged so many fvckin bullets yesterday !!!! 🤣🤣🤣 I could sense it was gonna be a wacky Sunday yesterday 😂😂😂
DANGEROUS 😂
Skip talking about that game last season baker came back when Lamar was out of the game and he knows it . Also Lamar has lost 3 running backs, his all pro corner , lineman, linebacker, and now he has more players on injured reserve. Brandon Williams, his number one safety Deshaun Elliott, Lamar is down to rookies out on the field. And ravens are still managing to win games because Lamar can carry his team .
Skipp out here tryna change the narrative from Odell the Cloud being Bakers downfall to now his 8:50 commercials and Contract 😂.
As a Browns fan I agree with Shannon
So for Baker, when he stinks it up, it’s injuries but when he plays well, it’s his greatness. Skip is a joke.
Shannon had to add in the Dolph “Uh Huhh”🙏🏼
Towards the end there talking about Matt Stafford Shannon had himself bout e'nuff of Skips ****
Before Skip had his turn he said "hmm" or "mmm" like 20 times.
Sling Blade
I noticed that to. That was so weird lol
Skip: well i at least have to give him a c
Shannon: 🗣FOR WHATTTT 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Skip: “ I don’t know one “
Shannon: “ I know he’s not very good “
😂
I am a Browns fan and agree 100% with Shannon.
I seen so many qbs in Cleveland. It makes me appreciate Baker a little. I don't think he's elite but I just can't remember any qb good in Cleveland since I been watching football. Baker makes Cleveland at least not a team we know is gonna lose. He at least gives them a chance.
Baker getting to the NFL has been a Cinderella story, but it's midnight and most of the time he's a game manager. He has a run game and weapons to throw to, and one of the top defenses. When Aaron Rodgers played hurt in 2018, Cobb and Allison missed multiple games. Other than Adams he was throwing to a bunch of rookies in Valdez-Scantling, St. Brown and Lazard. The defense was injury plagued, and when healthy they were subpar. Yet Skip didn't give Rodgers a break like he's giving Baker.
I’ve been saying this. Baker needs a dominant run game in order to look great. He’s a lot like Ryan Tannehill to me where as long as the run game is eating they’ll look great but if that’s gone than and you have to rely on their arm they’ll look average. I get every QB needs a run game to an extent but when you have the best RB duo in the league carrying a lot of your weight it’s different.
Everything you said isn't based in reality. There were plenty of games in 2020 (before he was injured) when he balled out while the running game averaged less than 4 yards per carry.
@@kazokadas Look how much was though. Look back at last years playoffs when Patrick Mahomes was taken out with an injury and Baker Mayfield had the fourth quarter to seal the game for the Browns. He laid an egg. Dude has never even passed for 4000 yards in a season and he’s never had 30 passing TDs. There’s no indicator to say that Mayfield is elite in any way shape or form and his stats are completely reflective of a run based offense with him game managing. There’s nothing wrong with that either. It’s just fans do him a disservice painting him to be a great QB when he’s just average and needs a great team around him for him to look good.
@@isaiah1931 He averages some of the most air yards/attempt in the league. That is not what a game manager does. A game manager throws short passes to eat the clock and keep the game in control with multiple safe first downs. So stop with the game manager talk.
Baker was a top 10 QB last year, that is great. Baker was rated as the #2 QB in the NFL last year over the final 12 games. That is great. He has been injured this year.
If you watched the game against the Chiefs you would know that multiple drives sputtered because of dropped passes.
Shannon: He's ave-rage-uh
Baker is a good QB who when everything is clicking, can be pretty great. He’s in that middle tier of QB’s you CAN win with, cuz at times he has been a great game manager. But in a season like this when nearly every big name on the team has been hurt, he’s just not gonna lift you up. Which is what #1 picks are supposed to be, but that ain’t reality. So while Baker probably deserves more benefit of the doubt, there’s a few QBs that Cleveland will likely gun for that CAN lift them up when things are going wrong
#1 picks aren't supposed to go out there with a torn labrum, fractured shoulder, 2 hurt knees and a hurt foot and lift a team up. I don't know where you heard that narrative.
He friggen sucks. So much hype over him. Saying he’s average is doing a disservice to the other average QBs
The man has multiple injuries and yet he still goes out there and plays
I dont think I have seen toughness like this in a while. Maybe the rest of the team should take a hint and get tougher.
The back up for Cleveland for me would have had to play another game after that win in same with cowboys
I'm convinced Skip Bayless day drinks after seeing this.
Shannon: I guess he didn't wake up feeling........... DANGEROUS 🤨
People are so bias that they hate the truth, BOTH OBJ AND Baker are average or below average.
Sweep it under your LeCarpet😂😂😂😂 skip funny asl
Skip trying to argue baker into the HOF.🤣
I love unc….
"Clevelend" 0:01 😂
Skip: I gotta at least give him a C
Shannon: FOR WHAT !
😂😂
Everything Shannon Sharpe said in this video is straight facts period point blank
Lol 😂 Shannon is the best thang to happen to sports tv ever
What does skip always say
"Sports is the only job you have to keep updating your resume, what have you done for me lately"
*subject turns to baker*
"Look what happened in the last 11 games last year" 🤣🤣
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