The line isn't very clear and I definitely agree- cops die in every saw film basically. What I think he's trying to say is "Jigsaw didn't have it out for cops *specifically*." Anyone who Kramer didn't think appreciated thier life or pissed him off in one way or another (because lbr some reasons ppl got tested were tenuous at best) got slung into a torture trap. If that person was a cop, then a cop went into a torture trap. But when he was following his own ethos that he spoke about so much (and there was a fair amount of time he was just a straight up hypocrite)- he wasn't targeting cops just *because they were cops*. This copycat was exclusively going after ""dirty cops"", that was their whole deal. I think that *that* is what they were trying to say- albeit communicating it rather poorly.
It had such a good premise - put Chris Rock and Samuel L. Jackson in a “Saw” film and have them act like you would expect. This was one of the rare movies that ended and I think I said “you gotta be fucking kidding me” when the credits began to roll. There was a halfway decent attempt at including BLM/cops commentary in there, but it didn’t entirely work either. Really disappointing, there could have been a great movie in this but it just felt like such a limp attempt where the premise deserved a better film.
@@CHRISPYakaKON I heard it was proposed to be a trilogy, but dunno if that will still happen or not. I was so frustrated by the ending (first of all, I dunno why Rock’s character didn’t just play along and say he was gonna do what he was being asked to do, even if he didn’t plan to follow through with it). And then the abrupt finish really sullied everything that came before it. I think I liked what they were TRYING to do with it, but I don’t think they really succeeded at it. I’d watch a sequel to it still, but I wish they did more with what they had in Spiral itself, instead of trying to build a new franchise out of it.
Yea I watched it last night and you can tell Chris Rock was having the time of his life doing this movie. I liked that it was kinda flashy amd cheesy. I enjoyed it.
The second interaction w the character I yelled at the screen “THEY DID IT” & unfortunately as usual I was correct. It’s difficult for me not to guess this kinda stuff way too early. The very very few times. I actually get a truly unexpected twist I get so excited bc it just doesn’t happen anymore. 😔😔 but I did enjoy Chris Rock & of course SLJ…..they are always awesome in anything they do.
With the BLM movement and everything going on…I believe the ending could’ve been WAY better and they could’ve gone so many other directions than a shoot out caused by the police…I know it was a setup and all but I saw this at the Drive-In theatre and literally everyone drove off the lot so fast when the credits began 🤣 we were all mad as hell 🤣🤣🤣
It was a hairpin actually, not the cuff's key. Though, it intrigues me if Shenk really wanted Zeke to saw his hand off or anticipated the hairpin as per his partner's cunning intuition.
Chris was at his best in the film in that one sequence when he and his new partner were talking about the hurdles of marriage life as a cop. He felt the most natural there. Any other time, he was really straining. Geez, those sequences when he's raising his voice almost comes off more comical because he is just so stilted when doing that..... Will give the movie this much: this is a much better idea for the franchise than doing some Kramer Prequel or trying to get another person to legit take up the legacy.
thank you.. big fan of saw. i was kind of hoping for more from spiral but was let down cuz nobody had a chance to love their trap. its likejust shoot them
------------------------------------------------------------ SPOILERS BELOW IF YOU DIDN'T WATCH THIS WHOLE VIDEO ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This movie was...ok to me. Fine for what it was. But it's soul problem lies in the fact that it tries so hard to point you away from the partner as the big bad that it gives away the fact that it was him by forcing a fake-out killing for no reason. The partner was too new to have done anything corrupt so "killing him" made NO SENSE to the storyline. Even the writers themselves had no real way to explain it so they mute the tape audio and give no flashback to the "death". They could have just as easily had another cop who was, say, running a protection racket and was strong-arming the butcher shop when it was still a toy shop which forced it to go under. Now you have a reason for the killing to happen there, a person to kill, and it even gets to be symbolic because the person was a cop who gets skinned like a pig in a butcher shop that used to belong to the person they drove out of business...a business tied to Chris Rock's past. The partner could have continued to play the part until the reveal at the end at the same moment in the story and nothing needed to change. Instead what we're given is a killer who gives himself away at the half-way point and an unexplained skinned man. Seriously, WHO WAS THAT? A random civilian off of the street? A drug dealer? A pimp? Another dirty cop? A cadaver from the morgue? Who knows? Sloppy writing.
They could have made this movie infinitely better if they hadn't revealed who Spiral was so early. Firstly, make it so the partner is missing and is being presented as bait for Zeke by Spiral rather than the blatantly fake death that was in the film. When Zeke walks into that room to confront Spiral after his old partner died, it should have been a TV giving a similar speech about ending corruption before he goes into the room with his dad and the new partner in traps. So he has to choose - save his father and the corrupt system, or save his idealistic partner and start things anew. He picks his dad, but that's the trap, and then his dad is killed by the other cops while Spiral makes a getaway in the elevator, having planted evidence that Zeke was Spiral, setting up a sequel where he's fighting for his innocence. It would have hit all the same beats but revealing Spiral at the last second rather than 10 minutes before would have given us that wham moment we expect from Saw. And Chris Rock was bad. He's an amazing comedic actor but just bad in this. The stupid squinting constipated face whenever he was trying to be serious, and the scene where his old partner murdered that guy looked like it was from a skit show.
I heard that The Village was going to get an R rating because you could hear the main character getting stabbed in one scene so they took the audio of the stab out and got a PG-13 rating. The MPAA is so weird about their ratings.
The movie was meh for me because I view Chris Rock in more of a comedian light, like I couldn't take the movie seriously enough to focus on it at all. In the end it wasn't anything for me to recommend, just something to say "Yeah I watched it".
And blackouts add to the crime. My uncle had a store in South Central Los Angeles and he would always get his shotgun out when the blackouts hit. But it was also the early 90s LA which was like living in the real life Purge every blackout.
I really wish it wasn't connected to The Saw. But other than that it's not that bad. Except for the most obvious twist in the recent years. Also "You Ain't Hard" goes too damn hard
Forgetting the fact that Tobin Bell is way too old to play a younger version of John, he WAS the reason these films worked. If Jigsaw was played by a different actor you likely wouldn't have had a franchise beyond #1 and #2. A younger Kramer would have big shoes to fill.
it's not a bad movie if it wasn't connected to saw or anything, y'know? if it wasn't in the line of the greatest pieces of film ... it would be a banger film to me
I hate this film. I tried watching it twice and turned it off both times (and I had spent money to rent it both times). I seriously thought I was being punked. The opening sequence literally made me think, "Is this supposed to be a movie within a movie? This can't be the real film. Someone is going to yell 'cut' at any moment." I swear to God, that's honestly what I thought. The cast was great but the writing was bad and the acting was wooden (probably because the dialogue was so unnatural). I was just bored and confused. (Confused about how it could turn out so bad when it had so much potential.)
This movie was a breath of fresh air for the series. I had not felt so angry that the antagonist wins since the first saw movie. While the other movies (2-8) had twists they weren’t all that enjoyable. Only good things about the other movies we’re the traps.
I love this movie 😂 I’m a big Saw fan so obviously there’s gonna be some bias but I like the facts that they switched it up. Because people complain if they do or don’t
I enjoyed Chris Rock in a more serious role and Samuel Jackson delivers as usual. The death scenes made my skin crawl and I wasn't surprised to find out who the killer was all along. I'd give the movie a C+. " Wanna play a game?"
I’m glad you brought up his facial expressions they felt very forced and even his walk, I personally don’t enjoy him in more serious roles like this. It’s like having Michael Cera play shaft!
This film had a good premise but was my least favourite saw film. It felt more like a cop film with horror elements than a Saw film as it didn't really follow the vibe of the previous films. Plus the twists were predictable.
The traps in this were rigged which didn’t really make sense, and I thought was Amanda in this movie but like nope. Mega plot twist. And I did not take that well.
Spiral Dude in pig mask who put dirty cops in traps but instead of giving them a chance to escape he just doesnt Its like hey you have to cut off your fingers or get electrecuted oh also you have 90 seconds to cut them off basically, die or *SUPER DIE*
Do you have any idea how annoying you were calling the legendary Jigsaw “Kramer” over and over again…? If you just carried on The whole video, calling the stars “rock“ and “Jackson“ etc… maybe I wouldn’t have cringed so hard 🙄🧩
The worst part of the movie is where Chris Rock goes “Jigsaw doesn’t target cops!” A cop dies in nearly every movie!
@@NotGettingWhatIPaidForRUclips he did though. He targeted cops and their families in every film. He didn't want to kill anyone, though
Those are just accidental. They didn't get put into the torture room, now did they?
The line isn't very clear and I definitely agree- cops die in every saw film basically. What I think he's trying to say is "Jigsaw didn't have it out for cops *specifically*."
Anyone who Kramer didn't think appreciated thier life or pissed him off in one way or another (because lbr some reasons ppl got tested were tenuous at best) got slung into a torture trap. If that person was a cop, then a cop went into a torture trap. But when he was following his own ethos that he spoke about so much (and there was a fair amount of time he was just a straight up hypocrite)- he wasn't targeting cops just *because they were cops*.
This copycat was exclusively going after ""dirty cops"", that was their whole deal. I think that *that* is what they were trying to say- albeit communicating it rather poorly.
Yeah that’s what I was thinking lol Mathew’s, Kerry, Hoffman, tap, rigg like wtf the screen writers messed up bad there
@@NotGettingWhatIPaidForRUclipsJohn targeted Mathew’s for sure
How about that twist at the end when you find out that you were the one that wass actually being tortured the whole time
It had such a good premise - put Chris Rock and Samuel L. Jackson in a “Saw” film and have them act like you would expect. This was one of the rare movies that ended and I think I said “you gotta be fucking kidding me” when the credits began to roll. There was a halfway decent attempt at including BLM/cops commentary in there, but it didn’t entirely work either. Really disappointing, there could have been a great movie in this but it just felt like such a limp attempt where the premise deserved a better film.
I thought it was fine.
@@tylerlee8531 interesting
I’m hoping that it gets a sequel or two to be able to explore a bit more. I think one movie is enough considering the new take
@@CHRISPYakaKON I heard it was proposed to be a trilogy, but dunno if that will still happen or not. I was so frustrated by the ending (first of all, I dunno why Rock’s character didn’t just play along and say he was gonna do what he was being asked to do, even if he didn’t plan to follow through with it). And then the abrupt finish really sullied everything that came before it. I think I liked what they were TRYING to do with it, but I don’t think they really succeeded at it. I’d watch a sequel to it still, but I wish they did more with what they had in Spiral itself, instead of trying to build a new franchise out of it.
@@MrJagermeister that’s fair. The delay in release definitely didn’t help either
It’s just really nice to see Chris Rock in that kind of movies that’s insane how big of a fan he is.
Yea I watched it last night and you can tell Chris Rock was having the time of his life doing this movie. I liked that it was kinda flashy amd cheesy. I enjoyed it.
@@JamieMarzy yea
My favorite part of the movie is when Veronica’s mom gets her face melted off
The second interaction w the character I yelled at the screen “THEY DID IT” & unfortunately as usual I was correct. It’s difficult for me not to guess this kinda stuff way too early. The very very few times. I actually get a truly unexpected twist I get so excited bc it just doesn’t happen anymore. 😔😔 but I did enjoy Chris Rock & of course SLJ…..they are always awesome in anything they do.
Wow you are so cool and smart. Congratulations!
That trap music dad joke will not be accepted or forgotten 😂😂
With the BLM movement and everything going on…I believe the ending could’ve been WAY better and they could’ve gone so many other directions than a shoot out caused by the police…I know it was a setup and all but I saw this at the Drive-In theatre and literally everyone drove off the lot so fast when the credits began 🤣 we were all mad as hell 🤣🤣🤣
When yung nudy’s you aint hard came out in the begging that was dope!
Just do the right thing and make Tobin bell have a twin brother and make saw go more crazy. This one has brutal kills but not great traps.
I don't know why but a heard handmaid instead of handmade XD
@6:44 😂😂😂 that took me 5 seconds to get the reference and I literally was on the floor. Lmao. Ha ha ha. Happy Easter!
Spiral was ridiculous
Funniest part of this movie is when Chris Rock picks up the hand saw to cut off his hand but then finds the key right next to him
It was a hairpin actually, not the cuff's key. Though, it intrigues me if Shenk really wanted Zeke to saw his hand off or anticipated the hairpin as per his partner's cunning intuition.
Chris was at his best in the film in that one sequence when he and his new partner were talking about the hurdles of marriage life as a cop. He felt the most natural there. Any other time, he was really straining. Geez, those sequences when he's raising his voice almost comes off more comical because he is just so stilted when doing that.....
Will give the movie this much: this is a much better idea for the franchise than doing some Kramer Prequel or trying to get another person to legit take up the legacy.
FAM IM SO GLAD SOMEONE SAID SUTTIN ABOUT HIS SERIOUS FACE, put me off the whole movie
a CW version of SAW 😩😩 that’s coded as fuck.
Yes please, more saw
scene when nudys song plays so cool
That awkward moment where the trailer was better than the movie..... Still want a part 2 tho
Kills were brutal but not creative.
Ngl this is the better told saw movies for sure
This movie was great, I can’t wait for the sequal though i do know it can’t be much better than this one, actually made a Saw movie enjoyable
The tongue trap was way worse than the finger trap
Trap music for a trap movie ,lol
I actually loved this movie
Amazing explanation of the movie but I’m I tripping or is there a faint beat in the background in this video
This movie is basically "Everybody hates Chris: Saw Edition", with some BLM sprinkled on it.
Oh boy. Thanks for telling me. Will buy in the bargain bin
Any plans to bring back streams on LME Streams?
thank you.. big fan of saw. i was kind of hoping for more from spiral but was let down cuz nobody had a chance to love their trap. its likejust shoot them
My biggest takeaway from this video is American Psycho TV Series! lol
Please do Barb and Star go to Vista Del Mar
I like Chris rock
Hi
Hold on. So Se7en wasn't a horror film?
I just got an ad for Saw
ghost come outta a toilet? 21 must be thinking bout Harry Potter
*TRAP* Music 🪤
I actually liked this movie.
Soundtrack better than the movie that's for sure.
I’m just tired of these films tbh... it’s overdone and such garbage at this point.
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This movie was...ok to me. Fine for what it was. But it's soul problem lies in the fact that it tries so hard to point you away from the partner as the big bad that it gives away the fact that it was him by forcing a fake-out killing for no reason.
The partner was too new to have done anything corrupt so "killing him" made NO SENSE to the storyline. Even the writers themselves had no real way to explain it so they mute the tape audio and give no flashback to the "death". They could have just as easily had another cop who was, say, running a protection racket and was strong-arming the butcher shop when it was still a toy shop which forced it to go under. Now you have a reason for the killing to happen there, a person to kill, and it even gets to be symbolic because the person was a cop who gets skinned like a pig in a butcher shop that used to belong to the person they drove out of business...a business tied to Chris Rock's past. The partner could have continued to play the part until the reveal at the end at the same moment in the story and nothing needed to change. Instead what we're given is a killer who gives himself away at the half-way point and an unexplained skinned man.
Seriously, WHO WAS THAT? A random civilian off of the street? A drug dealer? A pimp? Another dirty cop? A cadaver from the morgue? Who knows?
Sloppy writing.
this seems like it just wanted to use the saw name with really nothing to do with the actual series
i dont hate spiral but i dont really like it. its ok tho
Didnt enjoy the movie because he will always be Marty the Zebra to me and I could not take him seriously.
THIS WAS A GOOD MOVIE !!!!!!!!!!
Honestly, the only thing i didnt like about this movie was the pig head voice. Completely took me out of it
Chris rock wasn’t good, the storyline what made the movie
Don't bother...
Chris rock the legend known for giving all his girlfriends a black eyes ? Yeah not a positive role model for anyone
Sam was useless in this film sorry yo lol
We get it... the movie is horrible
hopefully the directors cut is a lot better cuz the movie was ass
That movie is a disappointment. 😔
shittiest movie!!! he should've never even taken a part on it the first place lol. glad i didn't watch it
Terrible film. They made it way too obvious who the bad guy was.
Movie was garbage..
It's really hard not seeing Chris Rock as anything but a zebra...
FACTS! lmao
And it's hard not seeing an eye patch on Samuel L Jackson
Immature
Wow, go watch his standup, or his ribs scene from I’m Gonna Get You Sucka! or Juice, in which he plays a crackhead. Tupac and Omar Epps Star in it.
😭
Everyone is talking about the ending but as hard as I tried I couldn’t stay engaged, so kinda glad I can watch vids like this
same tbh
you missed nothing lol...its so lame
Spiral Explained in 10 words:
Marty the Zebra fails to stop revenge scheme against cops...
They could have made this movie infinitely better if they hadn't revealed who Spiral was so early. Firstly, make it so the partner is missing and is being presented as bait for Zeke by Spiral rather than the blatantly fake death that was in the film.
When Zeke walks into that room to confront Spiral after his old partner died, it should have been a TV giving a similar speech about ending corruption before he goes into the room with his dad and the new partner in traps. So he has to choose - save his father and the corrupt system, or save his idealistic partner and start things anew. He picks his dad, but that's the trap, and then his dad is killed by the other cops while Spiral makes a getaway in the elevator, having planted evidence that Zeke was Spiral, setting up a sequel where he's fighting for his innocence.
It would have hit all the same beats but revealing Spiral at the last second rather than 10 minutes before would have given us that wham moment we expect from Saw.
And Chris Rock was bad. He's an amazing comedic actor but just bad in this. The stupid squinting constipated face whenever he was trying to be serious, and the scene where his old partner murdered that guy looked like it was from a skit show.
Then, in the other side, Logan or Dr. Gordon find out about what the Jigsaw copy cat has done.
Yeah. By the time they didn't show how Schenk had to suffer, it was basically saying that he was the killer
I heard that The Village was going to get an R rating because you could hear the main character getting stabbed in one scene so they took the audio of the stab out and got a PG-13 rating. The MPAA is so weird about their ratings.
Chris Rock being a Saw fanboy is something i never knew i needed
i genuinely really liked Spiral :))
Me too, it was entertaining. Didn’t need to be more than that.
@@SceneWins it’s third best for me behind the first two films
i just closed my eyes and pretended that he was marty
Lol same. I couldn't take the character serious cause all I heard was Marty.
@@sir.buttersworth that's more of you guys problem I agree it's difficult at 1st but you get over it eventually
The movie itself was meh, but I really enjoy Chris Rock in movies. I'm really 50/50 on this one.
The movie was meh for me because I view Chris Rock in more of a comedian light, like I couldn't take the movie seriously enough to focus on it at all. In the end it wasn't anything for me to recommend, just something to say "Yeah I watched it".
The ending was really a "WTF" for this movie. When the credits rolled I was like "Oh hell nah. This has to be a joke."
Same
Is it really that implausible?
@@mrflipperinvader7922 I think it's the fact that it just ends on a big cliffhanger.
@@NumaanTahir This movie is a fucking disgrace to the Saw franchise
Oh good it wasn't just me.
the weather comment makes sense cause crime does go up during a heatwave. heat makes people bonkers
And blackouts add to the crime. My uncle had a store in South Central Los Angeles and he would always get his shotgun out when the blackouts hit. But it was also the early 90s LA which was like living in the real life Purge every blackout.
I really wish it wasn't connected to The Saw. But other than that it's not that bad. Except for the most obvious twist in the recent years.
Also "You Ain't Hard" goes too damn hard
I don’t like when ghouls come out me toilet either Mr.21
Oh how I wish this was an Uzumaki movie
They're planning on doing a Kramer prequel? How? What part of his past haven't we seen at this point?
The homicidal preschool era 😳
@@TheBatBoy you mean home alone ?
Whatever they decide to add in at any given moment with the way this franchise is written lol.
Forgetting the fact that Tobin Bell is way too old to play a younger version of John, he WAS the reason these films worked. If Jigsaw was played by a different actor you likely wouldn't have had a franchise beyond #1 and #2. A younger Kramer would have big shoes to fill.
it's not a bad movie if it wasn't connected to saw or anything, y'know? if it wasn't in the line of the greatest pieces of film ... it would be a banger film to me
It was nice having a Saw film that didn’t have a convoluted plot trying to retcon and connect to the other movies
Yeah, it stands on its own just fine
Yea that was cool. You could watch this not having seen any Saw movie. I think the franchise is about to get a lot of new fans to watch Saw
also something that made Saw Saw, but this is preference
I hate this film. I tried watching it twice and turned it off both times (and I had spent money to rent it both times). I seriously thought I was being punked. The opening sequence literally made me think, "Is this supposed to be a movie within a movie? This can't be the real film. Someone is going to yell 'cut' at any moment." I swear to God, that's honestly what I thought. The cast was great but the writing was bad and the acting was wooden (probably because the dialogue was so unnatural). I was just bored and confused. (Confused about how it could turn out so bad when it had so much potential.)
This movie was a breath of fresh air for the series. I had not felt so angry that the antagonist wins since the first saw movie. While the other movies (2-8) had twists they weren’t all that enjoyable. Only good things about the other movies we’re the traps.
I love this movie 😂 I’m a big Saw fan so obviously there’s gonna be some bias but I like the facts that they switched it up. Because people complain if they do or don’t
I enjoyed Chris Rock in a more serious role and Samuel Jackson delivers as usual. The death scenes made my skin crawl and I wasn't surprised to find out who the killer was all along. I'd give the movie a C+.
" Wanna play a game?"
I’m glad you brought up his facial expressions they felt very forced and even his walk, I personally don’t enjoy him in more serious roles like this. It’s like having Michael Cera play shaft!
Lol “trap” music
i think junji ito lost his touch with this new movie. this aint nothing like his previous works.
This is a terrible movie.
It was dumb but I still really enjoyed it! Bring me like 10 more of these movies I don't care.
This film had a good premise but was my least favourite saw film. It felt more like a cop film with horror elements than a Saw film as it didn't really follow the vibe of the previous films. Plus the twists were predictable.
Yea as soon as his partner said "im lucky to be your partner" i knew it was him.
Yeees more LME videos.
Are you going to make videos for Pig and Reminiscence
This movie could've revived a dead franchise, but it drove the final nail in the coffin.
I think that was Jigsaw. This was more like someone kicking the coffin to check if they was ok.
The traps in this were rigged which didn’t really make sense, and I thought was Amanda in this movie but like nope. Mega plot twist. And I did not take that well.
Spiral
Dude in pig mask who put dirty cops in traps but instead of giving them a chance to escape he just doesnt
Its like hey you have to cut off your fingers or get electrecuted oh also you have 90 seconds to cut them off basically, die or *SUPER DIE*
just watched this movie with my family we were laughing the whole time
That's how my friends and I watched The Conjuring 2 in high school
I hope Gordon comes back
That's what I thought Spiral was gunna be.
Do you have any idea how annoying you were calling the legendary Jigsaw “Kramer” over and over again…? If you just carried on The whole video, calling the stars “rock“ and “Jackson“ etc… maybe I wouldn’t have cringed so hard 🙄🧩
Comment cops for character names is crazy
I watch Saw for the same reason I watch Home Alone. The traps.
Hes kinda method so he insisted on sleeping with my mother 😂😂😂
i thought the movie was good i was like :0
I thought this was gonna be a Junji Ito live action film
That was my first thought too!
A what…..?
@@Malik_Maverick a Junji Ito live action film
Why do I feel like this movie came out years ago?
It was called Seven back then.
@@JamieMarzy ? What are you talking about?
@@callmevarez867 Watch Seven with Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman. This movie is very VERY VERY similar.
Shots him then throws rock at target lol
First again yay
nope it was mrjagermeister
I watched space ninja video on Riverdale right before this, I died laughing
Almost forgot this film came out .