I'm a cohost of the Flying Midwest Podcast, and this is one of our featured segments. We call it the Sectional Showdown and we try to stump each other on uncommon chart symbols. We've used a few of these before, but I definitely have a few ideas for future episodes now!
Thanks for this video! These seemingly endless exceptions and special cases are difficult to learn because they're so rarely encountered (depending on your location.) Ideally, the FAA would catalog these least common circumstances/elements and publish that, so there would be a complete listing. For example, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that there might be some remaining stand-alone DME stations, but I'd have no idea how to find them and I wonder how many pilots know how many there are currently? Similarly, I see in the User Guide that "police zones" exist... where? And a very incomplete search doesn't turn up what they are supposed to be. Also, even more of a nit pick, but for the Marine Lights, it's unfortunate that they chose to capitalize only the first letter of "Fl". "FL" makes sense for Flashing, but the lowercase L looks like the uppercase I, as seen in "Iso" but other text for those map items use all uppercase letters. Please pardon me while I go escort some clouds who are trespassing off my lawn.
I've been flying 25 years and 2,200+ hours and study daily and have some advanced ratings and I'm still learning. Thank you for another excellent video. I'm not too proud to say I did not know some of these symbols!
My first instructor ever had flown about that as well and he told me that "if you're instructor isn't learning and acts like they know everything, get rid of them. They're a bad instructor!" Ego has no place in the cockpit. It's tight enough as is.
In the first example, Crawford, I’m pretty sure the E-W runway circuits are kept south of the field (RP E) while 25-07 runway circuits are kept on the North side (RP 25). This would separate the glider operations from regular traffic and allow safer glider access to the ridge south west of the airport. Let me know if I’m mistaken.
I learned to fly in that area and I remember my instructor covering up the letters “lympic” where it says Olympic Mountains and then asking me what the “circle “ indicated. 🙄
I already figured out the DME because there is a local VOR-DME to me that recently got downgraded. It is definitely one notable change in the chart revision. Before it was DME only, it had a bunch of NOTAMs about dead radials.
There’s a lot of star icons, some dark some are opaque. Some of them mean part-time towers some of them mean pilot control lighting. Sometimes it’s confusing and you have to go back to the index to find out which one that is. Noticed airports with a large star on top of the airport icon. Others I’ve seen in the wording.
At 11:45 when talking about spinning mass you mention "thermal power plants" - that's correct, of course, but incomplete. Hydro pumped storage also provide inertia, along with addressing most of the other issues that inverter-based, intermittent generation/storage systems present. While I very much appreciate how you focused on inverters and how they are improving in this video, leaving out hydro pumped storage, as a proven technology with decades of track record around the world, presented an incomplete view of the topic.
Have encountered some very uncommon airport/airfield markings as well. 10ft Yellow circles at or near runway thresholds indicate presence of arresting cables / gear. Getting a small GA aircraft gear snagged or prop strike on those held above the surface items could get unhealthy and expensive fast... Fly safe!!!
Ah yes! All the obscure stuff your instructor asks you to identify when you get too comfortable.
I'm a cohost of the Flying Midwest Podcast, and this is one of our featured segments. We call it the Sectional Showdown and we try to stump each other on uncommon chart symbols. We've used a few of these before, but I definitely have a few ideas for future episodes now!
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Thanks for an excellent video!
From a former airline pilot, and present instructor.
Thanks for this video! These seemingly endless exceptions and special cases are difficult to learn because they're so rarely encountered (depending on your location.) Ideally, the FAA would catalog these least common circumstances/elements and publish that, so there would be a complete listing. For example, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that there might be some remaining stand-alone DME stations, but I'd have no idea how to find them and I wonder how many pilots know how many there are currently? Similarly, I see in the User Guide that "police zones" exist... where? And a very incomplete search doesn't turn up what they are supposed to be. Also, even more of a nit pick, but for the Marine Lights, it's unfortunate that they chose to capitalize only the first letter of "Fl". "FL" makes sense for Flashing, but the lowercase L looks like the uppercase I, as seen in "Iso" but other text for those map items use all uppercase letters. Please pardon me while I go escort some clouds who are trespassing off my lawn.
Around me... there are a few open squares. They are killing the VOR, but leaving the DME. Thanks for another great vid.
Love these little tidbits! 34 years of flying and I only got one partially right. :-)
I've been flying 25 years and 2,200+ hours and study daily and have some advanced ratings and I'm still learning. Thank you for another excellent video. I'm not too proud to say I did not know some of these symbols!
My first instructor ever had flown about that as well and he told me that "if you're instructor isn't learning and acts like they know everything, get rid of them. They're a bad instructor!"
Ego has no place in the cockpit. It's tight enough as is.
In the first example, Crawford, I’m pretty sure the E-W runway circuits are kept south of the field (RP E) while 25-07 runway circuits are kept on the North side (RP 25). This would separate the glider operations from regular traffic and allow safer glider access to the ridge south west of the airport. Let me know if I’m mistaken.
What a great video!
One of my favorites on the chart… a solid triangle, encircled. 😁
You can see one at 48.08°N / 124.08°W
I learned to fly in that area and I remember my instructor covering up the letters “lympic” where it says Olympic Mountains and then asking me what the “circle “ indicated. 🙄
@@olympiashorts - hahahah… he was one of those ‘special’ CFIs, wasn’t he…
it wasn't rare to see such high altitude G airspace even 20yrs ago.
I already figured out the DME because there is a local VOR-DME to me that recently got downgraded. It is definitely one notable change in the chart revision. Before it was DME only, it had a bunch of NOTAMs about dead radials.
Several of the decommissioned vors in my are converted into dme only stations so I’ve seen those more often now.
There’s a lot of star icons, some dark some are opaque. Some of them mean part-time towers some of them mean pilot control lighting. Sometimes it’s confusing and you have to go back to the index to find out which one that is. Noticed airports with a large star on top of the airport icon. Others I’ve seen in the wording.
nice! And I thought I've seen it all! HAHAHAAH
At 11:45 when talking about spinning mass you mention "thermal power plants" - that's correct, of course, but incomplete. Hydro pumped storage also provide inertia, along with addressing most of the other issues that inverter-based, intermittent generation/storage systems present. While I very much appreciate how you focused on inverters and how they are improving in this video, leaving out hydro pumped storage, as a proven technology with decades of track record around the world, presented an incomplete view of the topic.
wrong video man
Have encountered some very uncommon airport/airfield markings as well.
10ft Yellow circles at or near runway thresholds indicate presence of arresting cables / gear. Getting a small GA aircraft gear snagged or prop strike on those held above the surface items could get unhealthy and expensive fast...
Fly safe!!!