sure lord of the abyss is overkill for permaspike most of the time but abyssal warrior is absolutely worth it. but even so, lota mostly gets 400k pops even at the end of the track with permaspike added. try it on dark castle or workshop, its really good and when adding a druid toppath its great. get something like bottompath ninja or permacharge in the middle of the map and its gg ez.
For some reason, NK gave Permaspike the ability to keep its spikes whenever you go in and out of the game or retrying last round. But they didn’t gave that same feature to Long Life and Deadly Spikes? No wonder why both of those upgrades feel so unreliable half of the time, unless You have a mid-game option in order to save up for Permaspike of course.
I used it to black boarder glacial trail. I had to buy white hot spikes because for some reason i was losing too many spikes on r99 and died there or on r100. The amd was shared with a abyss warrior so it wasnt 100% uptime. Also bought first strike to kill the bad, its maybe overkill, but I'm not flexing money unspent on a bb run.
idk man i usually agree with your strategies but you did pspike dirty, that thing can easily tank the wole bad on r100 even just with a bbrew and drums, sure lota is overkill to get just for the pierce buff but abyssal warrior is a 7k tower and it makes this 40k one 30% better wich is good value to get just for the buff, no mention of debuffs like glorm or embrid doing wonders for the tower, in the heroes section you didn't even mention striker for his level 8 pierce buff to all towers in range and concussive shell is incredible for stalling but you said that you can chinook the spac around on harder maps and... like... what? At this point why not saying that you can get benjamin on freeplay to continously use lvl3 on the permaspike at the beginning of rounds for more damage, now i get that people have towers that they don't like / use very much (for me it's bombs and mortars) but this video felt rushed like you were on a hurry and said whatever came to mind i love your content but damm if this isn't one of your lows (btw the spac stall on workshop was very good i might try comething like that later)
Yeah you can get abyssal warrior if it doesn’t get in the way of amd but I did talk about how I just don’t like striker jones with pspike. From everything I’ve done with him it’s just way better to not use striker and it seems so pushing out of the way when there’s another hero that just makes things easier. Also Ben is awful to use.
As someone who uses bottom path least out of the spike paths, why would I bother with the full hoot and nannies when just alch buff and stall does the same job for less money and less of my attention? r100 solution + blowback heli(s) + top path druid + Relentless Glue + Alch buff + Permaspike should = Dub any time you would think it worthwhile to bust this thing out, what more do I want or need? Nothing, in fact, as I have already won and just need to play it out correctly. More Buffs dont even make that that much easier, more no micro Stalls do like bottom path boomers/ices as examples. Any Extra buff is literally Extra and not needed, its okay to add it for flavour, but as its not needed to win with any of these stall strats, why bother mentioning it in a tower guide about Winning easily and cheaply in the context of one tower path so you have more room to do that fun flavour on your own? As he's brought it up with both the relavent mermonkey and other spike videos, and in Striker's, mentioning the popular fun flavour for this spike path more than the couple times he already has can border on irritating for everyone, so its fine if he doesnt rehash it yet again for a 3rd or 4th time. If needed he should have a link to the mermonkey video in the description or something so you can easily hear his in depth thoughts on it there, but other than that he is entitled to avoid beating a dead horse as he pleases. Catching the lack of debuffs when they should be a worthwhile mention somewhere is a good find, but besides that you're beating a dead horse he clearly wishes to stop beating himself. Its not that deep bro, its just not.
@@casualmarkit9969 it's just that the other videos felt more complete i'm not asking to go into the deep math to find the strategy that is theoretically 0.01% better and requres you to micro with frame perfect timings, pspike just has a milion and a half sinergies and i would've liked for them to be at least mentioned since chom said at the beginning that this tower can be used both casually and advanced (and he bothered saying the chinook thing that i'm pretty sure was only ever used on post apocalyptic fallout) btw it's kinda funny that you did a three paragraph essay of a response to a comment not even ment for you and end it with "it's not that deep bro"
@@whatdoIsayh3re did you even watch the video? Pspike becomes a powerful backline with good stalling. It's not a dps tower lmao, pair it with stalls and conc to get the most out of it
sure lord of the abyss is overkill for permaspike most of the time but abyssal warrior is absolutely worth it. but even so, lota mostly gets 400k pops even at the end of the track with permaspike added. try it on dark castle or workshop, its really good and when adding a druid toppath its great. get something like bottompath ninja or permacharge in the middle of the map and its gg ez.
good input!
For some reason, NK gave Permaspike the ability to keep its spikes whenever you go in and out of the game or retrying last round. But they didn’t gave that same feature to Long Life and Deadly Spikes? No wonder why both of those upgrades feel so unreliable half of the time, unless You have a mid-game option in order to save up for Permaspike of course.
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"unless you're alch, you don't really use them"
One of my most used strats, permastall superbuffed permaspike
This is a ways to permanently deal with the Bloons....
I'll see myself out
On tracks that only have one exit, it is king.
Glacial trail
LOTA + Permaspike = overrated
LOTA + Carpet of Spikes = underrated
me when lordlandmaster pspike 2mpc
also this tower is really nice as a tower to go for in coop while everyone else does other stuff sometimes
Also you cant skip white hot with just AMD if you freeze moabs and they go into your spike pile.
I used it to black boarder glacial trail. I had to buy white hot spikes because for some reason i was losing too many spikes on r99 and died there or on r100. The amd was shared with a abyss warrior so it wasnt 100% uptime. Also bought first strike to kill the bad, its maybe overkill, but I'm not flexing money unspent on a bb run.
how is the frozen expert map not mentioned in this video?
Oh, I thought the middle crossspath was preferred if you're getting an alch anyways. Was I wrong, is that outdated or something?
I think nerfs have made it so that top crosspath is always a bit better
idk man i usually agree with your strategies but you did pspike dirty, that thing can easily tank the wole bad on r100 even just with a bbrew and drums, sure lota is overkill to get just for the pierce buff but abyssal warrior is a 7k tower and it makes this 40k one 30% better wich is good value to get just for the buff, no mention of debuffs like glorm or embrid doing wonders for the tower, in the heroes section you didn't even mention striker for his level 8 pierce buff to all towers in range and concussive shell is incredible for stalling but you said that you can chinook the spac around on harder maps and... like... what? At this point why not saying that you can get benjamin on freeplay to continously use lvl3 on the permaspike at the beginning of rounds for more damage, now i get that people have towers that they don't like / use very much (for me it's bombs and mortars) but this video felt rushed like you were on a hurry and said whatever came to mind i love your content but damm if this isn't one of your lows
(btw the spac stall on workshop was very good i might try comething like that later)
Yeah you can get abyssal warrior if it doesn’t get in the way of amd but I did talk about how I just don’t like striker jones with pspike. From everything I’ve done with him it’s just way better to not use striker and it seems so pushing out of the way when there’s another hero that just makes things easier. Also Ben is awful to use.
@@Chom_Chomjust place PSI on strong and afk with pspike rather than doing LotA+striker+tryhard stallibg
As someone who uses bottom path least out of the spike paths, why would I bother with the full hoot and nannies when just alch buff and stall does the same job for less money and less of my attention? r100 solution + blowback heli(s) + top path druid + Relentless Glue + Alch buff + Permaspike should = Dub any time you would think it worthwhile to bust this thing out, what more do I want or need? Nothing, in fact, as I have already won and just need to play it out correctly. More Buffs dont even make that that much easier, more no micro Stalls do like bottom path boomers/ices as examples.
Any Extra buff is literally Extra and not needed, its okay to add it for flavour, but as its not needed to win with any of these stall strats, why bother mentioning it in a tower guide about Winning easily and cheaply in the context of one tower path so you have more room to do that fun flavour on your own? As he's brought it up with both the relavent mermonkey and other spike videos, and in Striker's, mentioning the popular fun flavour for this spike path more than the couple times he already has can border on irritating for everyone, so its fine if he doesnt rehash it yet again for a 3rd or 4th time.
If needed he should have a link to the mermonkey video in the description or something so you can easily hear his in depth thoughts on it there, but other than that he is entitled to avoid beating a dead horse as he pleases. Catching the lack of debuffs when they should be a worthwhile mention somewhere is a good find, but besides that you're beating a dead horse he clearly wishes to stop beating himself. Its not that deep bro, its just not.
@@casualmarkit9969 it's just that the other videos felt more complete i'm not asking to go into the deep math to find the strategy that is theoretically 0.01% better and requres you to micro with frame perfect timings, pspike just has a milion and a half sinergies and i would've liked for them to be at least mentioned since chom said at the beginning that this tower can be used both casually and advanced (and he bothered saying the chinook thing that i'm pretty sure was only ever used on post apocalyptic fallout)
btw it's kinda funny that you did a three paragraph essay of a response to a comment not even ment for you and end it with "it's not that deep bro"
@@Chom_Chom yeah i just would have liked some of those to be mentioned in the video
Lord of the abyss slows and buffs are playing on a different patch or something.
Wheres Ben spike?/hj
pspike is usless now. its not permanent and spiked mines are better
Then explain how Spines are B tier while Pspike is A tier on the expert chimps list?
@@yolochip4889 Spines also got nerfed just recently lmao
it lost all of its dps and costs around 40k. you could get a glaive Lord for around the same price and have great dps and cleanup
@@whatdoIsayh3re did you even watch the video? Pspike becomes a powerful backline with good stalling. It's not a dps tower lmao, pair it with stalls and conc to get the most out of it
@yolochip4889 i just miss the og pspike. its just a shell of its former self now.