I really appreciate barbers talking about the business, the industry is polluted with barbers who only wanna show their haircuts online and their fake lifestyles for clout rather than trying to build up the industry for the customer to get a better experience and to give barbers better futures.
Thank YOU for these amazing videos with Bossio and the barber guru! For those of us interested in the business side of barbering like myself, these are 🔥 and very interesting to hear different opinions. Lots of questions answered that I’m sure most of us have thought to ourselves. keep them coming please 🙏
Great video! Definitely changed my perspective on commission WHEN ITS DONE RIGHT!🔥💯 thank you guys for dropping all these gems and giving better insight on the business aspect of the barber industry keep killing it 😤🤙🏽
I've been a barber for 25 yrs. Haircuts were $7 when I started in the industry. Commission shops are good for growing clients and no risk overhead cost. Once you have clients you're in a more opportune spot to make more $ from renting. But when client traffic slows down the risk becomes yours. When that happens, you find out how well you are with $ management. If you didn't put $ aside you are at square one.
People hating on this guy for not being a barber.. why? Is it because he can’t teach you cuts? That’s why he’s paying for your continued education. Is it because he’s never known what it’s like to have a slow week? He’s paying you a minimum for those slow weeks, so I think he understands. A market manager at Walmart has probably never been behind the register, does that mean that manager isn’t qualified to run those stores? If you can run several locations and they all thrive and your barbers are happy, why does it matter?
Also if more commission shops were structured the way joe’s are then alot of people would have a different outlook & opinion on commission shops. I think lack of knowledge & lack of commission shops that are not run the correct way is why alot of barbers are skeptical.
I run a commission based shop. I think what I do is fair. I provide all software & promo. They literally only come in w/the clippers they prefer. I provide razors, neck strips, smocks, capes, enhancements, pomades, oils & etc (that’s what I mean by software) Plus I can get them clippers at wholesale rates.. I require my barbers to work as a team. One barber sweeps, we all sweep each others hair. One cleans, we all clean. One wash & fold towels, we all do it.. 60/40 (barber makes 60) is very very fair!! My overhead & expenses are crazy!! I have to make money or what’s the point?
I own a commission shop too. The overhead is nuts. But we can curate a consistent experience for the clients and that’s very valuable. It’s a brand rather than 10 completely different barbers with different prices and services. But we take care of W2’s, payroll taxes, shop supplies, workers comp insurance, and unemployment insurance. I pay close to 15% in those taxes. And that’s not including credit card processing fees.
Think longevity/future and not the quick money/ and do what you want. Some of you need to learn structure and how a business is ran. Commission allows you to learn and be disciplined….
Those types of shops are usually busy. Take advantage of that because if you’re a good barber with great customer service, hygienic, and talented the customers will follow. Word spreads fast like a disease. I understand that these shops don’t let you share your panhandles to social media platforms or phone numbers and in some cases make you sign a contract which by the way it’s totally BS! You take that contract to the department of labor the day you decide to call it quits and go off on your own in the same city/town. Anything that’s not NOTARIZED IS NULLIFIED. Some make you sign these bogus contracts stating you can’t work within a 5-10 mile radius or in the same city/town for 2 years if you leave their shop LMAO. ITS ALL SCARE TATICS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.
I tried the commissions thing for a few years some years back.. it was pretty busy cool shop… BUT WOULD I EVER DO COMMISSION AGAIN???? NO ILL PASS. Just my opinion.✌🏾✊🏾💈
I’d love to know of these commission shops where they invest in you and teach you… because I haven’t worked in one yet. They throw you on a commission and it’s a turn and burn. It’s quantity over quality
Quantity over quality is the fault of the barber imo. The shop provides the opportunity the barber is providing the service. What kind of experience the customer has is the barbers responsibility for quality work and customer service
@@acox2884you wouldn’t understand if you never worked in one. They want you to rush people in and out because you don’t make any money otherwise they don’t know what a traditional shop is
Are commission barbershops robbing their barbers? ABSOLUTELY! We’ve all heard the saying, “don’t hate the player hate the game” Let me get this out there ASAP! As a Barber you are NOT OBLIGATED to work at a comish, percentage, or salary Barbershop. But it’s a great way to BUILD CLIENTELE when you’re a new Barber or an “EXISTING BARBER” new in the area.
You probably from a state where it's not an obligation. Come to Jersey w that energy and get shut down fast yo. They out hear limiting how much we can make and don't increase wages FOH!
This disgusting toxic idea that shop owners should only charge enough to cover expenses and never make a profit is HORSE SHT. If you stick your neck out on the line and put in $75k into remodeling a space and outfitting the place with all the equipment, you’re damn right you deserve to make a return on your investment. PERIOD. As a commission shop owner, I blatantly refuse to hire anyone who even remotely exhibits that mentality.
Commission, Percentage, Salary all fall in the same category. All the same b/s and I’m not knocking any owner, your shop you’ve worked hard to get yourself to ownership level your rules and God Bless. Remember owners might also have a little more overhead than others or greed so that’s where the decision of becoming a percentage, salary or commission shop comes into play. Especially in big market cities like NY, Boston, Miami, LA, Chicago and etc. Some owners are better than others and give you incentives here and there and that’s cute, if you’re a new barber. If you’ve been in the game for more than 3 years and you’re still at one of the 3 types of shops I mentioned earlier you’re not a driven individual! A barber is supposed to have a hustler go getter mentality. But I guess we’re not all built the same.
This dude keeps saying barbers are unprofessional. Last time I checked we have a barber license. He doesn’t even cut hair and I believe he isn’t a licensed barber so where does barber guru come from he is a financial guru if that . There is hair cutters that cut without one but aren’t really looking long term. And do mess it up for the rest of us . I was commission when I started transitioned to booth rent and making much more And have paper trail .
Commission should be 50% for seasoned barber. beginners 40% with a chance to grow. Long term employee goes to 60%. This has been standard practice for yrs. Lesson 101 how to keep good barbers in a shop for a longer length of time. Treat them fair.
Anyone saying commission robs the barbers, y’all need to crunch the numbers and the value of having paid sick and vacation time. Having someone else take care of your taxes. Having someone else provide workers comp and unemployment insurance. Having someone else pay for disability insurance and an possible health/dental/vision insurance. Those things are unheard of in the industry.
His pay stubs are consistently showing guys making 90,000 to over 100,000 dollars a year and guys in this comment section are still talking about them being robbed. Crazy times.
THIS. As a commission shop owner, I reinvest a crap ton of my profits into renovations, finishes, tools, stations, chairs, tech, marketing, advertising, etc. so I can keep my staff busy all the time always in demand. My bottom net profit is no where near what people think. But owners have to make money. Otherwise what’s the point? We’re the ones who stick our necks out to create a spot for employees thrive.
Anyways these owners reap all the benefits! At what cost did you make that 1700 to 2K for the week. Cutting 70+ customers a week at let’s say at $40 minimum you do the math 70x40= $2800 a week Percentage Shops/Comimision * 50/50= $1400 (not including tips) you just got $1400 taken from you in one week • 60/40= 1680 (not including tips) you got taken $1120 for the week. • 70/30= 1960 (not including tips) you got taken $840 for the week Booth average is 250 but with these numbers you’ll be more than happy paying 400 a week anywhere. •Salary shops pay on between $125-$165 a day depending on your barbering skills Let’s say $150x7 days a week= $1050🤮 but you cut up 70 customers for the week(10 a day) at $40 minimum $2800-1050= $1750 the owner made off of you that one week.
Listening to this guys business model i realize he's never barbered. Compared to the old model, hes way complex with it. It can be way more simple and less expensive and more beneficial to all involved. Too many shops like this we all might as well be working at Walmart. Chain gang great clips. In reality if you're a barber with clients find another barber to split rent. Just sayin
In NJ and alot of states booth rent is illegal so that being said Yes 100% the commision is robbing barbers and slutting out our talent for way longer than is necessary.
I disagree with the commission based Barbershop Model that Formula is ONLY for the Shops Owner I've been a successful Barber for 12 yrs & all 12vyrs I've been a Chair Rental Barber & yes some owners don't Improve the shops or invest in the Barbers Education but I left corporate jobs so I can be my own BOSS even in someone else's shop... that means I pay taxes, Buy my supplies Have an LLC , paid for my own Education outside of Barber school & I've been taking care of my family for 12vurs of my career is it hard yes but chair rental has worked for me until I decided I'm done & mind you I started Barber school alot older than moat of these young cats...just my Opinion
I really appreciate barbers talking about the business, the industry is polluted with barbers who only wanna show their haircuts online and their fake lifestyles for clout rather than trying to build up the industry for the customer to get a better experience and to give barbers better futures.
Thank YOU for these amazing videos with Bossio and the barber guru! For those of us interested in the business side of barbering like myself, these are 🔥 and very interesting to hear different opinions. Lots of questions answered that I’m sure most of us have thought to ourselves. keep them coming please 🙏
Marvy , brotha you have great energy keep the great work i can tell your truly passionate about this!
Great video! Definitely changed my perspective on commission WHEN ITS DONE RIGHT!🔥💯 thank you guys for dropping all these gems and giving better insight on the business aspect of the barber industry keep killing it 😤🤙🏽
💯 Barbers are not charging enough.
I've been a barber for 25 yrs. Haircuts were $7 when I started in the industry. Commission shops are good for growing clients and no risk overhead cost. Once you have clients you're in a more opportune spot to make more $ from renting. But when client traffic slows down the risk becomes yours. When that happens, you find out how well you are with $ management. If you didn't put $ aside you are at square one.
More lives with Joe! 💎💎💎💎
People hating on this guy for not being a barber.. why? Is it because he can’t teach you cuts? That’s why he’s paying for your continued education. Is it because he’s never known what it’s like to have a slow week? He’s paying you a minimum for those slow weeks, so I think he understands. A market manager at Walmart has probably never been behind the register, does that mean that manager isn’t qualified to run those stores? If you can run several locations and they all thrive and your barbers are happy, why does it matter?
Also if more commission shops were structured the way joe’s are then alot of people would have a different outlook & opinion on commission shops. I think lack of knowledge & lack of commission shops that are not run the correct way is why alot of barbers are skeptical.
I run a commission based shop. I think what I do is fair. I provide all software & promo. They literally only come in w/the clippers they prefer. I provide razors, neck strips, smocks, capes, enhancements, pomades, oils & etc (that’s what I mean by software) Plus I can get them clippers at wholesale rates.. I require my barbers to work as a team. One barber sweeps, we all sweep each others hair. One cleans, we all clean. One wash & fold towels, we all do it.. 60/40 (barber makes 60) is very very fair!! My overhead & expenses are crazy!! I have to make money or what’s the point?
I own a commission shop too. The overhead is nuts. But we can curate a consistent experience for the clients and that’s very valuable. It’s a brand rather than 10 completely different barbers with different prices and services. But we take care of W2’s, payroll taxes, shop supplies, workers comp insurance, and unemployment insurance. I pay close to 15% in those taxes. And that’s not including credit card processing fees.
Think longevity/future and not the quick money/ and do what you want. Some of you need to learn structure and how a business is ran. Commission allows you to learn and be disciplined….
Those types of shops are usually busy. Take advantage of that because if you’re a good barber with great customer service, hygienic, and talented the customers will follow. Word spreads fast like a disease. I understand that these shops don’t let you share your panhandles to social media platforms or phone numbers and in some cases make you sign a contract which by the way it’s totally BS! You take that contract to the department of labor the day you decide to call it quits and go off on your own in the same city/town. Anything that’s not NOTARIZED IS NULLIFIED. Some make you sign these bogus contracts stating you can’t work within a 5-10 mile radius or in the same city/town for 2 years if you leave their shop LMAO. ITS ALL SCARE TATICS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.
Your ignorance is painful. Non competes are binding with or without notarization. Non compete law suits almost ALWAYS go in favor of the salon.
I tried the commissions thing for a few years some years back.. it was pretty busy cool shop… BUT WOULD I EVER DO COMMISSION AGAIN???? NO ILL PASS. Just my opinion.✌🏾✊🏾💈
Could you explain why not bro? Any advice you got for someone like me who’s 2nd year going into 3rd?
I’d love to know of these commission shops where they invest in you and teach you… because I haven’t worked in one yet. They throw you on a commission and it’s a turn and burn. It’s quantity over quality
Quantity over quality is the fault of the barber imo. The shop provides the opportunity the barber is providing the service. What kind of experience the customer has is the barbers responsibility for quality work and customer service
@@acox2884you wouldn’t understand if you never worked in one. They want you to rush people in and out because you don’t make any money otherwise they don’t know what a traditional shop is
Are commission barbershops robbing their barbers? ABSOLUTELY! We’ve all heard the saying, “don’t hate the player hate the game”
Let me get this out there ASAP! As a Barber you are NOT OBLIGATED to work at a comish, percentage, or salary Barbershop. But it’s a great way to BUILD CLIENTELE when you’re a new Barber or an “EXISTING BARBER” new in the area.
You probably from a state where it's not an obligation. Come to Jersey w that energy and get shut down fast yo. They out hear limiting how much we can make and don't increase wages FOH!
I don’t think you watched the stream at all. If you did it all went over your head
@rafsoto24 I just meant as far as that particular comment goes that we ARE obligated.
@obsidianbarber223 my cousin owns a shop in Jersey City brother. Booth rental
@@dipsetomar yea people still do it lowkey
This disgusting toxic idea that shop owners should only charge enough to cover expenses and never make a profit is HORSE SHT. If you stick your neck out on the line and put in $75k into remodeling a space and outfitting the place with all the equipment, you’re damn right you deserve to make a return on your investment. PERIOD. As a commission shop owner, I blatantly refuse to hire anyone who even remotely exhibits that mentality.
Joe G is the horse you lead to water but he doesn’t drink
Commission, Percentage, Salary all fall in the same category. All the same b/s and I’m not knocking any owner, your shop you’ve worked hard to get yourself to ownership level your rules and God Bless. Remember owners might also have a little more overhead than others or greed so that’s where the decision of becoming a percentage, salary or commission shop comes into play. Especially in big market cities like NY, Boston, Miami, LA, Chicago and etc.
Some owners are better than others and give you incentives here and there and that’s cute, if you’re a new barber. If you’ve been in the game for more than 3 years and you’re still at one of the 3 types of shops I mentioned earlier you’re not a driven individual! A barber is supposed to have a hustler go getter mentality. But I guess we’re not all built the same.
Ive never seen a barbershop offer sick pay vaca pay or healthcare. Thats dope
This dude keeps saying barbers are unprofessional. Last time I checked we have a barber license. He doesn’t even cut hair and I believe he isn’t a licensed barber so where does barber guru come from he is a financial guru if that . There is hair cutters that cut without one but aren’t really looking long term. And do mess it up for the rest of us . I was commission when I started transitioned to booth rent and making much more And have paper trail .
Commission should be 50% for seasoned barber. beginners 40% with a chance to grow. Long term employee goes to 60%. This has been standard practice for yrs. Lesson 101 how to keep good barbers in a shop for a longer length of time. Treat them fair.
No percentage is fair. You have to pay tax on your half after being taxed before it
Anyone saying commission robs the barbers, y’all need to crunch the numbers and the value of having paid sick and vacation time. Having someone else take care of your taxes. Having someone else provide workers comp and unemployment insurance. Having someone else pay for disability insurance and an possible health/dental/vision insurance. Those things are unheard of in the industry.
Being a barber and knowing how to recruit and build a business are two seperate things. No offense a lot of non serial entrepreneurs commenting m…
His pay stubs are consistently showing guys making 90,000 to over 100,000 dollars a year and guys in this comment section are still talking about them being robbed. Crazy times.
THIS. As a commission shop owner, I reinvest a crap ton of my profits into renovations, finishes, tools, stations, chairs, tech, marketing, advertising, etc. so I can keep my staff busy all the time always in demand. My bottom net profit is no where near what people think. But owners have to make money. Otherwise what’s the point? We’re the ones who stick our necks out to create a spot for employees thrive.
Anyways these owners reap all the benefits! At what cost did you make that 1700 to 2K for the week. Cutting 70+ customers a week at let’s say at $40 minimum you do the math
70x40=
$2800 a week
Percentage Shops/Comimision
* 50/50= $1400 (not including tips) you just got $1400 taken from you in one week
• 60/40= 1680 (not including tips) you got taken $1120 for the week.
• 70/30= 1960 (not including tips) you got taken
$840 for the week
Booth average is 250 but with these numbers you’ll be more than happy paying 400 a week anywhere.
•Salary shops pay on between $125-$165 a day depending on your barbering skills
Let’s say $150x7 days a week= $1050🤮 but you cut up 70 customers for the week(10 a day) at $40 minimum $2800-1050= $1750 the owner made off of you that one week.
@@dipsetomar nice breakdown
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Listening to this guys business model i realize he's never barbered. Compared to the old model, hes way complex with it. It can be way more simple and less expensive and more beneficial to all involved. Too many shops like this we all might as well be working at Walmart. Chain gang great clips.
In reality if you're a barber with clients find another barber to split rent. Just sayin
In NJ and alot of states booth rent is illegal so that being said Yes 100% the commision is robbing barbers and slutting out our talent for way longer than is necessary.
I disagree with the commission based Barbershop Model that Formula is ONLY for the Shops Owner I've been a successful Barber for 12 yrs & all 12vyrs I've been a Chair Rental Barber & yes some owners don't Improve the shops or invest in the Barbers Education but I left corporate jobs so I can be my own BOSS even in someone else's shop... that means I pay taxes, Buy my supplies Have an LLC , paid for my own Education outside of Barber school & I've been taking care of my family for 12vurs of my career is it hard yes but chair rental has worked for me until I decided I'm done & mind you I started Barber school alot older than moat of these young cats...just my Opinion
If you decide to open a shop, you’ll change your tune very quickly.
@@myyt3824just because you want to make money off another man’s back doesn’t mean he does