Just remember what the Ninth Sister said in Fallen Order: “Being an inquisitor taught me no set back is too great, once you’ve already lost yourself a limb’s easy.” While this is a different type of injury, we know that inquisitors can still take hits and keep going.
@@dadian803 nah...he'd give *pointed* reminders that pain and anger are springs from which one can draw endless levels of power from...exhibit A, himself. :D
I think the Grand Inquisitor got stabbed in his second stomach. He’ll spend a little while healing, Reva can fabricate an excuse and pretend that he got injured fighting Kenobi. This gives her freedom to pursue Kenobi further without the Grand Inquisitor constantly objecting. When he is healed, they will have a proper confrontation in which Reva is either killed or kicked out of the Inquisitorius.
There is no way in hell that they’re going to retcon Rebels. A lot of important events are in that show. Ahsoka’s second chance to live, the return of Thrawn, the Death of Maul, Bo-Katan getting the Darksaber. Either Grand Inquisitor lost an organ and was healed in the Bacta Tank, or it’s a clone. I’m guessing it’s the former
@@MrSoulreaper42 waiting till the next episode, but there is no way in hell they are decanonizing season 1 of rebels. If they wanted reeva to kill the grand inquisitor they would decanonize the vader comics and some new inquisitor be in charge.
I think the one we’re seeing is a different guy. That would explain the whole melonhead ordeal and why they would spend so much time on makeup when you could just vfx the head so it looks like rebels. Also I hate reva. She is by far the worst part of this show.
@@justinjoestar1902 a shared theory among some of the fans. It would just throw out the Vader comics. Comics will definitely get the short of end of the stick in this multi show push by Disney
@@justinjoestar1902 he's def still alive, my guess is that Reva will say that Kenobi stabbed him and she'll be given full reign to hunt him down while he's healing from his injuries
The grand inquititor getting casually stabbed by an obviously rebellious underling bothers me immensely. Never letting your guard down around potential rivals is like darkside 101
Since when? Plagueis died because he got too fucked up with Palpatine. If anything arrogance is dark side 101 and the GI clearly thinks lesser of Reva and wouldn’t think her capable of killing him or catching him of off guard. Hence the line “Who’s in the gutter now”
Darkside 101 IS getting killed by a treacherous underling or manipulative boss. See: Palpatine, plagueis, tenebrae, lord Kaan (killed by subordinates); and Maul, Dooku, Grievous, almost Vader (killed or nearly killed by their boss). How are you mad that the grand inquisitor fell into a trap even palpatine fell into?
@@uhneeuhnjee1031 Darth Plagueis died in his sleep, Sidius was attacked on his back... The GI was stab in front of his opponent during an argument. I think the difference is pretty clear
Like the other problems that I encountered before, I will just let the revelation come itself. But if this is one of the reasons why the Grand Inquisitor was reassigned to Lothal, I would not be surprise. Little bit, of course. He wouldn't want to be near Reva again and may think working with Tarkin might give him a better chance of survival. Plus, what Reva did to him may led to what he became in the Rebels series. Who knows!
Its more logical that the GI if he ends up surviving would want vengeance and totally destroy Reva with no chance of fighting, man he is THE GRAND INQUISITOR and Reva is a nobody please disney don’t give us another Reva Palpatine / Reva Skywalker
I think GI will be the one that kills Reva. Grand inquisitor is a title given to the most powerful of the group. He needs to prove his worth after this and what better way than to kill his main competitor for the title. Sith only respect power after all
This takes place 5 years before he is assigned to lothal. Also lothal is incredibly important. The Jedi temple there literally has this like cosmic gateway that allows you to fucking teleport and time travel. It’s called the world between worlds and it is the entire reason that the empire came to lothal.
@@JimAirborne25 i am totally sure he was a regular trooper for the 501st , for what i was able to see his armor was just the regular phase 2 with no ARC mods but yeah , i hope to see a clone rebel cell lead by cody and rex help Kenobi and show in live action their remorse for killing their Jedi leaders under the control of the Empire
be careful with that thinking sooner or later they'll said the emperor was part goat hence why he lived the fall down the deathstar reactor and part space whale hence why his body didn't decay in space.. blah blah. You've gotta be very careful how much rope you give Disney it'll use it and end up hanging themselves.
He probably has a shorter head for the same reason Ahsoka had short tendrils in live action -- more practical from a stunt perspective. Also, like Cad Bane he's derived from a stylized animation design--- they're all caricatures and even the humans don't look right. Dooku comes to mind
Sure, but Rebels is far less exaggerated, and his species, the Pau’ans, appeared in Revenge of the Sith, and the Grand Inquisitor is very accurate to the film.
@@MetaFanWing Sure, but the Pau'ans that appeared in RotS just had to stand there, they didn't do any lightsaber fighting or stunts. Head pieces mess with your balance and can be damaged quite easily if they want it to be lightweight. Take for example Thor in the MCU, his first appearance was supposed to be with his comic accurate helmet, however they scrapped it from the film due to multiple issues during stunt work and other scenes. Granted, the Grand Inquisitors head piece would likely be better secured to the actors head's and modern film prosthetics are better than they were 10+ years ago. The design team for Obi-Wan Kenobi who know a lot more than you or me have decided that it was simply impossible and impractical to use a longer head prosthetic. Of course I could be wrong about all this and it wasn't the same grand inquisitor seen in rebels and he instead makes an appearance later in the show with a longer head, better makeup and black eyes.
Stylized animation to real-life, I have no problem with changes in look. But real-life movies to a real-life series?? They already have shown us how his species is supposed to look. Unless someone (in-world) comes along and says he's deformed and that's why he looks like he does, there's just no good reason for that.
Sooo, mostly none of the characters actually look like their animated counterpart. Don't understand why so much fuzz about it. Now, they also say "but we saw his species." Yeah, we saw them, that doesn't mean that everyone is going to look alike. Damn, we as humans can be super different that even sometimes it's funny to think that we are the same species.
@@Aon_Duine What we’re saying is, we’ve seen his species in live-action, and they look very similar to his animation model, ergo, that’s how he should look in live action.
I believe there was a time after rebels when he did return , mostly to do with the line “there are are worse things than death “ I think this is when he learned that
@@GenerationTech Exactly. Because he repeated the same line in the comics, when Vader commanded his spirit to remain basically chained to that abandoned Jedi Temple; the Grand Inquisitor then repeated "Some things are far more frightening than death" as his spirit faded away. So yeah, I think he meant that Vader's power was what he feared more than death.
@@GenerationTech I've always thought he meant Vader, what vader would have done to him after this failure, tortured and brutalized him and made him wish he was dead
After the grand inquisitor fell to his death in Rebels, Vader reanimated him into some kind of sith force ghost, bound to an object, i think it was a sertain set of ruins. So if that is possible, why not survive this minor scratch.....hell be back for sure, putting Reva out of her misery....
Someone in Discord had the explanation that the Grand Inquisitor have died multiple times and he constantly gets resurrected by Vader and Palpatine because he is their Darkside slave. And this would explain his "There are things worse than death" quote.
@@thelieutenant7732 They explain and show what he means in the comics. Vader or Palpatine trap his soul and connect it to a location they want protected. Luke ends up having to fight his spirit.
Disney: Let's kill Grand Inquisitor in Kenobi series. Fans: But he needs to be alive in Rebels season 1. Disney: Somehow Grand Inquisitor returned. Fans: -_-
“On some dark, unknown planet… where heroes need to go on a quest to find him using a rare artifact they have to find. And… stay with me on this… plot twist: he’s secretly building his own Empire with a huge fleet of ships he secretly built… somehow… it’s not important how, really.”
The idea that the after the Grand Inquisitor died and they replaced him with a extremely identical Grand Inquisitor feels way too wild and silly for me. Chances are, it's a fake out. We'll think OOOO HE'S DEAD and then somewhere near the end he'll show up again.
>I find it unlikely that there are 2 of the same species who are both called Grand inquisitor, were former Jedi and have the same markings in the head Its about as unlikely as two humans who are both called Senator, were members of royalty, and wear fancy clothes at formal diplomatic occassions......oh wait, that was Bail and Leia Organa. so yeah, same thing. ('grand inquisitor' is a rank or title - like Moff)
There is always the answer of cybernetics, as Fennic Shand was shot in the gut and had cybernetics put in to keep her alive. Considering that the Grand Inquisitor is a high ranking imperial it isn’t out of the realm of possibility that he got some really good cybernetics put into his injury to keep him alive.
Thrawn's characterization in Rebels was close enough. He makes the point repeatedly during his trilogy that he tends to view people as resources - at least, people he doesn't know well. Part of that may be a harsh reality of the size of the Empire, since it's far too large to care about the overwhelming majority on an individual basis, so sacrificing a few here and there for the greater good may be regrettable but necessary. Part of it also may be a defense mechanism to keep himself on track even when he finds the Empire getting up to some twisted stuff on the down-low, like that time his task force responded to an Imperial facility handling a pipeline of slaves that came under attack by rebels trying to liberate the captives. He found the practice despicable, but his ultimate goals were to guide and improve the Empire from the inside, and above all to avoid the chaotic bloodbath of another Clone War, so taking a stand then and there would have been counterproductive. Besides which, when it came to the factories on Lothal, playing nicely and with a relatively light touch had been tried before by Governor Azadi and Minister Tua, and didn't result in the sort of smooth production the Empire needed. Azadi's administration was corrupt (even if Azadi personally was okay) and tried to frame the mother of future Governor Pryce for embezzlement so the family mines could be sold to the Empire, and Tua tried to go the bread-and-circuses route to keep people pacified because she knew she was way out of her depth running counterinsurgency ops. Neither approach got Lothal's industry to the point Thrawn needed, so Thrawn had to try other options. Spelling all that nuance out for a kids' show, though, would have been a lot to ask, so they stuck to Thrawn giving some effective but brutal Sun Tzu-like lessons.
I think this is a fair point, and I hope that rebels will be a good base to build off of thrawn in live action and maybe show off more of his calm and collected, yet ruthless strategy
My prediction: The Grand Inquisitor will return, and Reva will have one of three fates: Death by Vader (My personal favorite) Death by Kenobi (What I hope to happen) Death by Grand Inquisitor (Feels fitting, but stale)
I can’t stand the 3rd sister. She is so annoying. She’s like a petulant child. Besides her and some of the silly foot chase scenes with Leia, I loved the first 2 episodes.
@@Tanknuggets217 off with her head! (I'd prefer it to be done as quickly as possible, but at the same time, the idea of Vader being the one to kill her is very satisfying so if they were to go that route I'd sit through her tantrums as long as it took)
I don't think Dave would let anyone remove his show from cannon, nor do I think someone like John Favreau would let that slide considering Disney already took a dump on the expanded universe, the Grand Inquisitor must be alive
@@rexlumontad5644 Yeah so far she seems to act very selfish and has 0 patients and isn't particularly good at following orders and her loyalty seems to lay more with herself than the inquisitors.
Seeing the clone veteran in the crowd was definitely a highlight. And may I say that the child playing Leia is spot on. Great casting! I cannot speak to what will happen next regarding the Inquisitors, but I was also shocked when he was stabbed.
"I want control of the Kenobi series, Bob." "Kathleen, we've talked about this. You have your Indiana Jones movie, leave Star Wars alone. It's suffered enough." "Kenobi is the only one of George's characters I haven't remade." "This Florida thing is going to bankrupt the company. The last thing we need is to piss off whatever fans we have left." "It can burn for all I care. And you have more important things to worry about." *slides over a picture of Bob with a Mouseketeer, pile of cocaine, and a bottle of lube* "It's yours." *downs family sized bottle of antacid*
I think that it is the grand inquisitor and he will heal and return to his duties fairly quickly, maybe even in the kenobi show and fighting and killing Reva. That would be awesome.
It would be interesting to de-canonize Rebels considering that Hera was mentioned in Rogue One which was a Disney Star Wars creation and then having the Andor series coming up to solidify it.
It’s pretty easy to explain or speculate subtle differences within a species. They can be just as diverse as humans right? It’s like people complained a newer dewback toy looked too different from the old Kenner one. Well, dewbacks can come in different breeds, just like horses, cows or lizard species in general.
The Grand Inquisitor being stabbed by Reva is the only part of both episodes that triggered a record screech in my head to "Wait wut? Hold up. What the heck is that?!"
Reva impaling the Grand Inquisitor makes no sense. The Grand Inquisitor is far more powerful than Reva who is the least powerful Inquisitor and would sense her betrayal not walk directly into her lightsabre. I don't think there are 'other' Grand Inquisitors or clones because he is only a tool for palpatine not as important as Vader and there was no replacement Grand Inquisitor after he died in Rebels. I actually thought that Reva and the Grand Inquisitor would fight in the hanger and the Grand Inquisitor kills her for her betrayal while Kenobi escapes. Then the Grand Inquisitor and Vader go on the hunt for Kenobi!
Yeah this whole scene was just lame. The fifth brother looks lame. Grand inquisitor looks lame. Reva's stupid overhyped jumping was lame. Idk, disney is just fucking lazy now.
Why did you think Reva will get killed by the Grand Inquisitor? The way the show is written clearly indicates that she will be the main villain hunting down Obi-Wan.
A question I really was unsure about was how did Reva know about the connection between Leia and Kenobi? As far as I know the only ones who know about the Skywalker children connection to Obi wan was the people who were there. It’s almost like she knew that Leia was special to Obi wan but how would she know? I genuinely don’t know that’s why I ask
In some TCW tie in novels, bail and obi wan end up on a big adventure together to destroy some sith artifacts (the book is awful, reads like a hurt comfort fanfic trying to make the two a couple). In any case, after that they became close friends, and bail is let in on some jedi secrets. If reeva was able to find about that, or if the empire suspects bail brought obi wan to coruscant, then it’s reasonable for her to assume that obi might help bail organa if bails daughter goes missing
She saw Leia "Organa" Bail Organa (a friend of Kenobi)'s daughter. I question more how she knew Vader is Anakin... Since he discarded that name on Mustafar. From my knowledge he never used that name properly between Episode 3 and episode 6 and even then he never really referred to himself as Anakin after episode 3. So how does she know that? Ashoka found out through a familiar connection they were kind of like siblings in a way.
I hope the stab was only more sort of a temporary paralysis and the gran inquisitor recovers... Otherwise it would ruin the image of him being this rather powerful being... The shape might have been a little off but i still liked his voice and general appearance... this "killing" would have been too sudden, easy and random...
As a Cub Scout my mother taught me that same thing about arrows and stab wounds. She to “leave the dam thing in” because the shaft will create a dam in the blood flow.
The rest of the Kenobi show will show us if he is dead or not... And Thrawn was one of the things that killed Rebels for me... I really liked Thrawn from the old books.
I’m betting the Inquistor isn’t dead and isn’t going to be at all pleased with Reva when he’s able to get back up. Heck, now that I think on it, this perfect opportunity for Reva. Instead of leaving him in the gutter, she drags him back to her fellow Inquistors, pulling some fake tears and goes “Oh no! Look what Kenobi did to our Grand Inquistor! We must hunt him down and I, the Third Sister, shall lead you to victory!” While Inqui is slowly recovering, Reva hopes to find Kenobi and get promoted, or attempt to arrange an accident for him so he doesn’t wake up from his coma. However that plan goes out the window when he does wake up and tells everyone who exactly stabbed him.
The Jedi at the temple seemed off to me, like they were trying to make them overly acrobatic and the actors were trying too hard. Most blaster deflections and such we've seen have been more wrist movements, while this scene was full body and flips and crap. (Akin to that spin move by one of the mods in the Book of Boba final fight)
If he is dead, and Rebels is officially made non canon…what’s that mean for Maul??? Maul is my favorite character in Star Wars so of course my first thought is about him…
To note Riva, in the initial opening of the show there was a moment when it focused on some younglings doing martial arts training, the camera pulled away from a black girl among the younglings. And who made their escape after their master was slain. Another youtuber speculated that she blames obi-wan for showing up too late to help and that's why she felt such hatred towards him
There was a kid in Rebels season one and he was in the imperial academy on Lothal. Ezra was undercover there and befriended him. The kid said that his sister went through the academy years before him and she disappeared. I was actually hoping that Reva was his sister. But now, Reva is so terrible I'm glad she's just a surviving youngling.
But yet when he died in Rebels, he essentially redeemed himself. He chose to die rather than face Vader for his failure. He said himself, there are far worse things to fear than death. This is not a man who's filled with rage like Maul.
Show: shocking death meant to portray how unhinged the villain is People who watched Rebels: [visible confusion] Sure they **could** explain how the Grand Inquisitor's alive, but that's not the point. The scene immediately undercuts it's own dramatic weight out of apparent sheer ineptitude, with the writers somehow not having basic info from a story they're poaching characters from. Anything they do now will come across as furious backpedaling. There's also this annoying trend where deaths mean absolutely nothing because it's casually undone all the time now. Maul was a grand event that shook up the Clone Wars cartoon, now it's just a fake out.
i agree with a lot of the comments on this video i think that even though he was stabbed in the gut he is probably gonna be alive still because the fifth brother was probably on his way to help the grand inquisitor take out obi wan and if necessary reva so when he discovered the grand inquisitor he probably brought him back to a medical facility and he's healing in a bacta tank well probably see him again in later episodes. but we have to remember there have been crazier things take darth he got cut in half and survived maybe due to his hatred of obi wan but then theres anakin he got his arms legs and hands cut off then was caught on fire and turned into darth vader and we cant forget admiral trench his ship got blown up with him on it and he survived whether this was disney being lazy and not wanting to invent a new character or he actually survived I don't know but we need to remember to keep an open mind and wait for later episodes of obi wan and see if disney tells us how he survives or if he's actually dead
With a plasma blade of about 2000°C you would burn up inside within seconds. The whole lightsaber stab wound survival stuff is mood killing in it's highest degree. Cutting off a limb and cauterising the wound on the go within split seconds while pssing through is likely, but then you would vaporise the surrounding area when stabbing. Maybe I am too old or too realistic, but even when applying the highest order of fantasy in there it is still highly doubtable to survive anything like this....
Yes, the jedi died saving younglings. Very heroic. How they put themselves at risk was heroic. Why does that make me so angry right now? Like I wish that's how things happened in there real world. The Jedi wouldn't wait 45 minutes to help the younglings while they were being blasted.
You’re a lot more forgiving of this than I am Alan. I’m of the opinion that the Grand Inquisitor was killed because either Disney is screwing up their own canon out of sheer incompetence, lack of understanding of their own intellectual property and that neither Dave Filoni nor John Favreau are involved in the writing or production of Kenobi. Or that they’ll bring him back in a ridiculous “gotcha, he’s not really dead” trope that seems to be thematic of most Disney Star Wars productions in recent years.
I don't understand how Disney hasn't gave Dave and John the main producers chairs, just like Kevin with Disney. At least the two of them are competent enough to make some really amazing star wars content. Mandalorian was awesome, rebels was great, and clone wars amazing, specially the ending of the series.
*My Personal Theory:* I think Vader will see Reva's potential in exposing Kenobi, I think she'll take this "credit" and vader will give her some type of promotion for finding his old master. I think then Vader will deal with the Grand Inquisitor whilst he heals in a bacta or whatnot but will still give him a chance to lead the Inqusitors being like "Do not fail me again." leading us to his position in rebels where he cannot afford to fail Vader (Leading to his actual death).
My guess is he survive the stab. They rush him back to the Inquisitor base that we saw in the trailer and Reva got arrest by the Storm Troopers, as like what we saw in the trailer where the troopers pointing their guns while inside the base hangar. Grand Inquisitor got his gut replace with the mechanical one just like what happen to Fennec Shand. And that's why we got the skinny version of him in the Rebel series. But that's just my theory. A -game- fan theory.
I actually agree with you, I would tend to think that the Pa' skill sets, etc might make them become Temple guardians in greater numbers than some other species and that there were several who Fell....and the fact that he doesn't even LOOK like the Grand Inquisitor from Rebels makes me feel there is more than one....
The real danger from a stomach wound is the stomach acids as the other organs in your body don't have the protective anti acids your stomach lining would. Also thrawn wouldn't consider someone intentionally making defective equipment for the empire an innocent. He was cold and calculating but no less ruthless when it was needed. A bunch of civilians sabotaging war gear would not but spared his retaliation.
Perhaps the biggest giveaway that this is in fact not the Grand Inquisitor we are looking for is the cape. He would never wear such a dangerous thing. 😁
@@moonshine588 Same.. Cape dragging along on sandy planet & on dirty back alleys in there & possibly on other planets.. Also it's just not generally needed & this Grand Inquisitor isn't one with terrifying looks, skinnier body, longer head & scary yellow eyes. Bleh :/ Still, supporting current & future productions with forever Mickey+ Sub & waiting for Willow series
They messed up big time with the Grand Inquisitor's appearance. There was more or less consistency with the movies, animated shows, and comics. Taller and thinner body, longer head, etc. I was very surprised to see Reva stab him, but of course he's not dead. Just playing it for shock value. Can't imagine how that unfolds with him and Reva.
I thoroughly enjoyed the first two episodes of Kenobi. Even better, it FELT like Star Wars. As far as the Grand Inquisitor went, I was disappointed in how he looked comparative to his character in Rebels. I THINK he didn't die from his wound in the second episode. I doubt Disney made a "mistake" of this level, not with both Favreau and Filoni keeping an eye on things.
TBH I was super sucked into the show watching both episodes back to back but when the Grand Inquisitor got ran through it took me completely out of it. I'm sure the show will continue to be great and I'm REALLY hoping they pull a quick fix to this somehow.
My biggest issue is that this 3rd sister knows Anakin is Darth Vader. Like that kinda makes a big plot hole, his identity was supposed to be a complete secret. Not even Tarkin knew, I mean he was suspicious, but this was not common knowledge.
Exactly..... Disney with no regard for previous lore screwing it up yet again..... i really hoped they wouldnt ruin Kenobi but should have know better!! Im sure theyl treat his character just as badley as they treated previous to push their new one and show how great they are.....GI is the latest victim!
The head could be a stylistic choice, something to do with the art department, or perhaps creative licensing to allow the actor to show more emotion? CGI over practical effects could explain partly Cad Bane.
@@elketerbentzadik which could explain why she knows Anakin is Vader, not exactly a stretch to imagine she actually saw him raiding the Jedi Temple with the clones, who would likely have begun referring to him as Lord Vader by then...but no, it's clearly completely beyond the realms of all possibility that she could know who Vader really is.
@@cptsteele91 This actually works pretty well if she was hiding around the corner or something when the youngling referred to him as "Master Skywalker" shortly before being turned into Padawan Sushi and kept hidden until his call with Palpatine who referred to him as "Lord Vader" - she'd know exactly who he was and who he became
I teared up at the Order 66 scene, especially with what we've seen from Grogu's perspective too... especially after what has happened recently in our country with children... That must have been the absolute most terrifying thing ever, to face that being so young.
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Thanks for bringing this up, glad I’m not the only one super confused about this. Also, anyone know how the third sister would know Vader’s identity? She shouldn’t know that, right?
Outside of Vader himself and Palpatine the only other person I can recall knowing about that was Thrawn (who figured it out for himself - if anyone was going to it would be Thrawn). Not that it should come as any great shock they'd flush yet another piece of lore down the shitter
Pretty sure the Order 66 scene was to set up Reva but it also reminded us of the events that led to the state of the galaxy so it hit two birds with one stone. Also I think the girl with the braided hair is Reva because they didn't need to add dialogue to that scene so I think they did it on purpose.
Thank you Generation Tech. This was bothering me too. I can agree with all the reasons you have come up with. I just hope Disney didn't screw up their own content which you had mentioned. As far as I was aware. All Disney is canon and follows same one long story with each other. I heard it was same character, but I was thinking it was just a different race member.
I think the grand inqusitor is still alive. The head shape only came from the fact that the actors are humans and Disney did bad CGI. It's only a possibility
I don't know if it was just me, but the Inquisitors were very cartoon-ishly "evil" than menacing. Yes, we are early into the series so not I'm gonna hold it against them.
They will just do a Boba and send him to the Bacta Tank. Maybe that's how we end up in the Inquisitor Lair. I have also seen a lot of people getting annoyed by Leia outpacing adults but personally i do not believe it is as big as it is made out to be. 1. Obi Wan is trying to convince he is there to help and by capturing her would make her trust him far less and she would still make equally as much noise via shouting. 2. The contractors in the forest are not trying to harm her as they are trying to lure Obi Wan and not cause a diplomatic issue as it would create a lot of noise in the political world 3. Its for story telling and it ups the stakes. How boring would it be if they just grabbed her easily, shes meant to be the brother of Luke Skywalker Edit: Im not trying to say its perfect as it could easily be improved but im loving this series sooooo much
On the Leia part, you also need her to outpace adults if you want to make an interesting cinematic chase sequence. I feel like they did choreograph it a bit sloppy, with her basically just running behind a tree. And when she did do something clever to try to lose them, the kidnappers comically bumped their head or fell as if it were a cartoon. Seriously, someone needs to download the Hannah Barbara SFX library and turn that sequence into some Looney Tunes shite xD
The kidnapping alone would make a huge political impact (and more so when it was orchestrated by Imperial forces). Also it's a world with freking STUN WEAPONS. Just stun her, bang, done. Also no 10 year old outpaces an adult - that's just biology. And watching a slow, poorly edited chase IS BORING.
My take is that there is more than one Grand Inquisitor. The Grand Inquisitors are the former Jedi Temple guardians, who put the Jedi Padawan through the trials to become knights. The guardians were knowledgeable not both the light- and darksiders of the Force. So when the temple fell, their darkside natures became the most dominant. They became responsible for converting surviving younglings and captured padawans to the darkside to becone Inquisitors.
The Grand Inquisitor and Fifth Brother seem to be hitting the Cafeteria more than the Inquisitor gym. 3rd Sister is so dead after this, how did she knew who Vader was if only Palps and Tarkin knew who he was? Edit: "There are worse things than death."
I was surprised at first but then I thought that he got stabbed low enough that it was a horrible wound and not lethal, just enough that Reva could get him out of the way to claim her prize that he was attempting to steal from her.
Pretty sure that youngling in the beginning running away with her other Padawan friends was reeva and she's referred to as a gutter rat because she was probably living on the streets of courasant after the temple purge
Really the only thing I'd like to know is what her giant beef with Kenobi is. Like why does she loathe him so much? And what does she think he owes her?
It’s pretty clear when the camera shows the Padawans in the Jedi temple the first one you see is a child who looks like Reva. Reva is not originally a street rat, but likely is one of the few younglings who manages to escape Order 66. Likely she survived as a street rat on Coruscant until discovered by one or more of the Inquisitors or Vader himself. As to the Inquisitor, it would be a tie in to Rise of Skywalker, for the Inquisitor to be cloned and might tie into the Bad Batch & Mandalorian as well.
@@bendavis3778 well as it was mentioned in the video it appears that a lot of Jedi temple guards were of the same species which I concur it does appear possible multiple Pau’an existed. And being they’d be the highest ranking Jedi to join the inquisitors could also make sense why they become leaders. As most inquisitors were padawan’s with only one 1 Knight who’s presumed to have been killed by Cal Kestis and 1 former master that was out of the jedi order for years and was also killed on Mon Cala.
I am sorry Allen, I don't watch to see what you are saying but the fact you look like you just woke up or you had a heavy night of drinking. I love it.
Getting impaled through the abdomen above the navel(belly button)as mentioned in this video is not a non-lethal injury. Remember, the aorta runs down the spine below the heart. If they nicked the aorta, there is a chance it could cauterize the wound, although I doubt it due to the intense pressure of this artery. If the aorta is severed completely, that would result in massive bleeding and almost instant death. Of course, this is assuming the grand inquisitor’s internal organ placement is at least similar to a human’s, which is highly likely due to his similar body shape.
I feel like this series isnt the best I mean the story writing isn’t that in depth or interesting. Having Princess Leia be there makes a new hope a little more confusing. Reva is just annoying and stupid. She doesn’t sound like a broken obsessive person she sounds and acts Bad in my opinion and over the top. And her killing the grand Inquisitor from rebels sort of makes the main villain of rebels feel more week especially since it takes about three seasons to beat the guy and this guy is finished on the second episode it just doesn’t make sense. I don’t really like it that much.
@@pepperroni6252 He's supposed to be the strongest Inquistor and in Rebels he was shown to be very intelligent, thus should've seen someone as hot headed and arrogant as Reva would try to stab him if given the chance.
Two scenes stood out the most to me. One was the GI getting stabbed in the gut, the other was the Inquisitor chick (forgot her name) doing that frontflip over a 2-foot gap. It looked so bad.
I’m still confused about the opening scene…. So with the younglings didn’t anakin …. Put them to sleep in the room that they left? So does this mean they went back to the room to… take a nap thanks to uncle annie or is revenge of the smith retconning that part
There are multiple groups of younglings in the Jedi temple, so most likely it's a different group. It also was a different room so they might have went to that other room to hide.
Yeah I'd say "injured, survives, has a convenient excuse not to be in the rest of the series since they apparently couldn't afford Jason Isaacs". Or in other words "he's been put in the fridge"
Tbh based on how they have treated the Grand Inquisitor in comics and now the Obi series, I dont know what is so grand about the Grand Inquisitor. Dude is a punching bag. He was treated better in Rebels.
I know. It's so frustrating. I loved him in Rebels. The scenes with him are the best parts of the first season. Now we've seen Darth Vader and Jocasta Nu disrespect him in the comics, and Reva disrespecting him here. He's no longer the intimidating villain he used to be, and it's sad.
Disney is so good at making us hate black characters. Not cause she's a villain, but because she's so bad at acting (like Finn...). Reva, the new Disney princess.
The Grand Inquisitor will survive but he will lose a lot of weight and his head will become very narrow due to his injuries. 🙃
lol
@@GenerationTech dolphins are sentient you will pay
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
But if you remember from rebels, all his species have narrow heads so that wouldn’t make sense.
That would be great lol
"What are you gonna do stab me?" - Grand Inquisitor's words before losing one of his stomachs
quite possible my last words as well!
He’ll get a prosthetic stomach like Fennec Shand in Book of Boba Fett
@@dachshund_gaming I never thought of that. I think you may be right.
Do Utapauns have multiple stomachs?
@@kvaldez46 They have two.
Just remember what the Ninth Sister said in Fallen Order: “Being an inquisitor taught me no set back is too great, once you’ve already lost yourself a limb’s easy.” While this is a different type of injury, we know that inquisitors can still take hits and keep going.
and perhaps this sets up her becoming like she appeared in Rebels?
Comics even lol! "Training" with Vader is basically the real thing as he cuts them up lol!
@@dadian803 always nonlethally...Lord Vader knows firsthand how much a body can withstand.
@@keenirr5332
Yes or depends HAHAHA! Annoy him and it'll be the real thing or goodbye neck.
@@dadian803 nah...he'd give *pointed* reminders that pain and anger are springs from which one can draw endless levels of power from...exhibit A, himself. :D
If the Grand Inquisitor didn't die from getting poked in the gut, then that's going to make Qui-Gon jinn's death even more sad.
His species has 2 stomach's so at most he's just in a lot of pain, hell Maul survived being chopped in half
I mean Maul* straight up got cut in half
@@theuncommonn00b12 so did admiral trench
@@CT5555_ his ship got blown up after...
@@andrewb639 semantics, half his face and arms got blown off and he still survived.
I think the Grand Inquisitor got stabbed in his second stomach. He’ll spend a little while healing, Reva can fabricate an excuse and pretend that he got injured fighting Kenobi. This gives her freedom to pursue Kenobi further without the Grand Inquisitor constantly objecting. When he is healed, they will have a proper confrontation in which Reva is either killed or kicked out of the Inquisitorius.
She’ll either be killed by grand inquisitor or by Vader
Not sure being kicked out is a option
There is no "kicked out" of the Inquisitors. She is going to die, I am quite sure of it. They are setting her up to be a hated character.
@@coopsauce112 Both would be good
@@coopsauce112 By Vader for sure.
There is no way in hell that they’re going to retcon Rebels. A lot of important events are in that show. Ahsoka’s second chance to live, the return of Thrawn, the Death of Maul, Bo-Katan getting the Darksaber.
Either Grand Inquisitor lost an organ and was healed in the Bacta Tank, or it’s a clone. I’m guessing it’s the former
De-canonize Rebels as a whole? Dont think so. De-canonize season 1? Very possible. Should people wait for episode 3 to judge? Absolutely
@@MrSoulreaper42 waiting till the next episode, but there is no way in hell they are decanonizing season 1 of rebels. If they wanted reeva to kill the grand inquisitor they would decanonize the vader comics and some new inquisitor be in charge.
I think the one we’re seeing is a different guy. That would explain the whole melonhead ordeal and why they would spend so much time on makeup when you could just vfx the head so it looks like rebels. Also I hate reva. She is by far the worst part of this show.
@@justinjoestar1902 a shared theory among some of the fans. It would just throw out the Vader comics. Comics will definitely get the short of end of the stick in this multi show push by Disney
@@justinjoestar1902 he's def still alive, my guess is that Reva will say that Kenobi stabbed him and she'll be given full reign to hunt him down while he's healing from his injuries
The grand inquititor getting casually stabbed by an obviously rebellious underling bothers me immensely.
Never letting your guard down around potential rivals is like darkside 101
just in case they decide to throw you down a reactor shaft ;)
Exactly. It makes no sense and add to the long history of Disney to degrade star war characters in order to exalt the new one that nobody likes
Since when? Plagueis died because he got too fucked up with Palpatine. If anything arrogance is dark side 101 and the GI clearly thinks lesser of Reva and wouldn’t think her capable of killing him or catching him of off guard. Hence the line “Who’s in the gutter now”
Darkside 101 IS getting killed by a treacherous underling or manipulative boss. See: Palpatine, plagueis, tenebrae, lord Kaan (killed by subordinates); and Maul, Dooku, Grievous, almost Vader (killed or nearly killed by their boss).
How are you mad that the grand inquisitor fell into a trap even palpatine fell into?
@@uhneeuhnjee1031 Darth Plagueis died in his sleep, Sidius was attacked on his back... The GI was stab in front of his opponent during an argument. I think the difference is pretty clear
he's not dead he needs to be alive for the first season of Rebels more then likely just injured long enough to not be a key part of the story
Yea definitely right because I think rebels happens like 4 years after this time point ….. unless they are going to retcon the series
@@royjones0824 closer to 7 or 8
Galen Marek/Starkiller (non canon, i know) survives being impaled thru the abdomen by vader, so we know that saber stab wounds are surviveable
@@captainzach6226 no the first season took place five years before ANH. So this series is about five years before he shows up again.
@@captainzach6226 the end of rebels. The start takes place 13 yaeras after the fall of the empire which is 3 years after kenobi episode 1.
Like the other problems that I encountered before, I will just let the revelation come itself. But if this is one of the reasons why the Grand Inquisitor was reassigned to Lothal, I would not be surprise. Little bit, of course. He wouldn't want to be near Reva again and may think working with Tarkin might give him a better chance of survival. Plus, what Reva did to him may led to what he became in the Rebels series. Who knows!
Its more logical that the GI if he ends up surviving would want vengeance and totally destroy Reva with no chance of fighting, man he is THE GRAND INQUISITOR and Reva is a nobody please disney don’t give us another Reva Palpatine / Reva Skywalker
Wouldn't he just kill Reva? She's directly working against him and is a weaker Inquisitor.
He's the GI, his purvue over Reva would not end simply because he's on another planet. And as an aspiring Sith, I'm sure he would want revenge.
I think GI will be the one that kills Reva. Grand inquisitor is a title given to the most powerful of the group. He needs to prove his worth after this and what better way than to kill his main competitor for the title. Sith only respect power after all
This takes place 5 years before he is assigned to lothal. Also lothal is incredibly important. The Jedi temple there literally has this like cosmic gateway that allows you to fucking teleport and time travel. It’s called the world between worlds and it is the entire reason that the empire came to lothal.
Hopefully the clone veteran will return in other episodes and his life will get better
Perhaps he will fight alongside Obi-Wan one last time
I’m curious myself to see who he might be. He was wearing blue accented armor. Means he was an ARC Trooper, or part of the 501st at one time.
@@JimAirborne25 i am totally sure he was a regular trooper for the 501st , for what i was able to see his armor was just the regular phase 2 with no ARC mods but yeah , i hope to see a clone rebel cell lead by cody and rex help Kenobi and show in live action their remorse for killing their Jedi leaders under the control of the Empire
@@JimAirborne25 Actually yes blue armor means that they are apart of the 501ST LEGION.
@@Vicenteprz I don't think its confirmed yet if Cody had his chip removed.
Let's be honest folks, even if an alien species look like us humans, that doesn't mean they share the same anatomy as humans.
his species canonically has two stomachs so ur correct
be careful with that thinking sooner or later they'll said the emperor was part goat hence why he lived the fall down the deathstar reactor and part space whale hence why his body didn't decay in space.. blah blah.
You've gotta be very careful how much rope you give Disney it'll use it and end up hanging themselves.
Think of Kryptonians and Daxxomites. They are pretty much the same just some abilities and weaknesses are switched
Only when it's convenient for the plot.
he's not suppose to look human, thats just the prop designers and actors being lazy
Also to borrow a quote from Family Guy Star Wars.
Grand Inquistor: "THIS ARMOR IS USELESS. WHY DO WE EVEN WEAR IT?"
There is only two known lightsaber resistant metals in the galaxy called cortosis and Mandalorian beskar.
@@JohnSmith-tx1mz And they wiped out all the Mandalorians, with us even seeing that Imperials are able to hand over Beskar to bounty hunters.
He probably has a shorter head for the same reason Ahsoka had short tendrils in live action -- more practical from a stunt perspective. Also, like Cad Bane he's derived from a stylized animation design--- they're all caricatures and even the humans don't look right. Dooku comes to mind
Sure, but Rebels is far less exaggerated, and his species, the Pau’ans, appeared in Revenge of the Sith, and the Grand Inquisitor is very accurate to the film.
@@MetaFanWing Sure, but the Pau'ans that appeared in RotS just had to stand there, they didn't do any lightsaber fighting or stunts. Head pieces mess with your balance and can be damaged quite easily if they want it to be lightweight. Take for example Thor in the MCU, his first appearance was supposed to be with his comic accurate helmet, however they scrapped it from the film due to multiple issues during stunt work and other scenes.
Granted, the Grand Inquisitors head piece would likely be better secured to the actors head's and modern film prosthetics are better than they were 10+ years ago. The design team for Obi-Wan Kenobi who know a lot more than you or me have decided that it was simply impossible and impractical to use a longer head prosthetic. Of course I could be wrong about all this and it wasn't the same grand inquisitor seen in rebels and he instead makes an appearance later in the show with a longer head, better makeup and black eyes.
Stylized animation to real-life, I have no problem with changes in look. But real-life movies to a real-life series?? They already have shown us how his species is supposed to look. Unless someone (in-world) comes along and says he's deformed and that's why he looks like he does, there's just no good reason for that.
Sooo, mostly none of the characters actually look like their animated counterpart. Don't understand why so much fuzz about it.
Now, they also say "but we saw his species." Yeah, we saw them, that doesn't mean that everyone is going to look alike. Damn, we as humans can be super different that even sometimes it's funny to think that we are the same species.
@@Aon_Duine
What we’re saying is, we’ve seen his species in live-action, and they look very similar to his animation model, ergo, that’s how he should look in live action.
I believe there was a time after rebels when he did return , mostly to do with the line “there are are worse things than death “
I think this is when he learned that
I mean that line I think refers to his soul being trapped eternally
@@GenerationTech Exactly. Because he repeated the same line in the comics, when Vader commanded his spirit to remain basically chained to that abandoned Jedi Temple; the Grand Inquisitor then repeated "Some things are far more frightening than death" as his spirit faded away. So yeah, I think he meant that Vader's power was what he feared more than death.
@@GenerationTech I've always thought he meant Vader, what vader would have done to him after this failure, tortured and brutalized him and made him wish he was dead
I think he feared the emperor, but yeah maybe Vader also
After the grand inquisitor fell to his death in Rebels, Vader reanimated him into some kind of sith force ghost, bound to an object, i think it was a sertain set of ruins. So if that is possible, why not survive this minor scratch.....hell be back for sure, putting Reva out of her misery....
Someone in Discord had the explanation that the Grand Inquisitor have died multiple times and he constantly gets resurrected by Vader and Palpatine because he is their Darkside slave. And this would explain his "There are things worse than death" quote.
So is that like new bodies that they transfer his consciousness into or do they just somehow use the dark side and revive his original body
@@thelieutenant7732 probably the first. Would also explain the slight differences between live action version and Rebels version
@@thelieutenant7732 They explain and show what he means in the comics. Vader or Palpatine trap his soul and connect it to a location they want protected. Luke ends up having to fight his spirit.
Snoke is the grand inquisitor confirmed?
@@RudeAndObscene That would actually be so funny, even decades later he's held as a slave to Palpatine
Disney: Let's kill Grand Inquisitor in Kenobi series.
Fans: But he needs to be alive in Rebels season 1.
Disney: Somehow Grand Inquisitor returned.
Fans: -_-
Somehow that sounds so accurate and familiar.
“On some dark, unknown planet… where heroes need to go on a quest to find him using a rare artifact they have to find. And… stay with me on this… plot twist: he’s secretly building his own Empire with a huge fleet of ships he secretly built… somehow… it’s not important how, really.”
Only Poe Dameron can deliver that line with complete and utter disregard to reality.
The idea that the after the Grand Inquisitor died and they replaced him with a extremely identical Grand Inquisitor feels way too wild and silly for me. Chances are, it's a fake out. We'll think OOOO HE'S DEAD and then somewhere near the end he'll show up again.
I find it unlikely that there are 2 of the same species who are both called Grand inquisitor, were former Jedi and have the same markings in the head
>I find it unlikely that there are 2 of the same species who are both called Grand inquisitor, were former Jedi and have the same markings in the head
Its about as unlikely as two humans who are both called Senator, were members of royalty, and wear fancy clothes at formal diplomatic occassions......oh wait, that was Bail and Leia Organa. so yeah, same thing. ('grand inquisitor' is a rank or title - like Moff)
@@keenirr5332 that’s not a good example because Leia was raised by Bail. That would mean the 2nd Grand inquisitor had direct ties to the first
@@Eli-akad i admit its not a great analogy, but then we don't know a lot of senators - human or otherwise - by name.
There is always the answer of cybernetics, as Fennic Shand was shot in the gut and had cybernetics put in to keep her alive. Considering that the Grand Inquisitor is a high ranking imperial it isn’t out of the realm of possibility that he got some really good cybernetics put into his injury to keep him alive.
Thrawn's characterization in Rebels was close enough. He makes the point repeatedly during his trilogy that he tends to view people as resources - at least, people he doesn't know well. Part of that may be a harsh reality of the size of the Empire, since it's far too large to care about the overwhelming majority on an individual basis, so sacrificing a few here and there for the greater good may be regrettable but necessary. Part of it also may be a defense mechanism to keep himself on track even when he finds the Empire getting up to some twisted stuff on the down-low, like that time his task force responded to an Imperial facility handling a pipeline of slaves that came under attack by rebels trying to liberate the captives. He found the practice despicable, but his ultimate goals were to guide and improve the Empire from the inside, and above all to avoid the chaotic bloodbath of another Clone War, so taking a stand then and there would have been counterproductive.
Besides which, when it came to the factories on Lothal, playing nicely and with a relatively light touch had been tried before by Governor Azadi and Minister Tua, and didn't result in the sort of smooth production the Empire needed. Azadi's administration was corrupt (even if Azadi personally was okay) and tried to frame the mother of future Governor Pryce for embezzlement so the family mines could be sold to the Empire, and Tua tried to go the bread-and-circuses route to keep people pacified because she knew she was way out of her depth running counterinsurgency ops. Neither approach got Lothal's industry to the point Thrawn needed, so Thrawn had to try other options.
Spelling all that nuance out for a kids' show, though, would have been a lot to ask, so they stuck to Thrawn giving some effective but brutal Sun Tzu-like lessons.
I think this is a fair point, and I hope that rebels will be a good base to build off of thrawn in live action and maybe show off more of his calm and collected, yet ruthless strategy
My prediction: The Grand Inquisitor will return, and Reva will have one of three fates:
Death by Vader (My personal favorite)
Death by Kenobi (What I hope to happen)
Death by Grand Inquisitor (Feels fitting, but stale)
I can’t stand the 3rd sister. She is so annoying. She’s like a petulant child. Besides her and some of the silly foot chase scenes with Leia, I loved the first 2 episodes.
I'm so sorry but there's no way in hell he died that easily
@@asaknight321 I hope you’re right.
Third sister is absolutely annoying
@@Tanknuggets217 off with her head! (I'd prefer it to be done as quickly as possible, but at the same time, the idea of Vader being the one to kill her is very satisfying so if they were to go that route I'd sit through her tantrums as long as it took)
More will be revealed in later episodes.
The Dark Side is a pathway to many things some would consider unnatural.
I don't think Dave would let anyone remove his show from cannon, nor do I think someone like John Favreau would let that slide considering Disney already took a dump on the expanded universe, the Grand Inquisitor must be alive
Man I was expecting a lot more from the grand inquisitor. Still love the show
Guess they needed to get him out of the way for their crap new character.
@@juliajuanafernandaalvarez1456 It would be funny to see Rava get her just desserts
@@rexlumontad5644 I guess it´s already safe to say she will be killed by Oci Wan or Darth Vader at some point in the show.
@@juliajuanafernandaalvarez1456 Agreed. She would bite off a lot more than she can chew.
@@rexlumontad5644 Yeah so far she seems to act very selfish and has 0 patients and isn't particularly good at following orders and her loyalty seems to lay more with herself than the inquisitors.
I highly doubt the grand Inquisitor is dead
Seeing the clone veteran in the crowd was definitely a highlight. And may I say that the child playing Leia is spot on. Great casting!
I cannot speak to what will happen next regarding the Inquisitors, but I was also shocked when he was stabbed.
I don’t think he is dead
That would retcon rebels and they wouldn’t have down that
*done
retcon*
You would think that, but don’t forget Kathleen Kennedy exists
@@koro_kokoro what’s that supposed to mean ?
@@tytebben it means there is nothing in Star Wars that woman cannot ruin, it’s her talent
I love the mental gymnastics we're all having to use to keep Disney star wars alive.
"I want control of the Kenobi series, Bob."
"Kathleen, we've talked about this. You have your Indiana Jones movie, leave Star Wars alone. It's suffered enough."
"Kenobi is the only one of George's characters I haven't remade."
"This Florida thing is going to bankrupt the company. The last thing we need is to piss off whatever fans we have left."
"It can burn for all I care. And you have more important things to worry about."
*slides over a picture of Bob with a Mouseketeer, pile of cocaine, and a bottle of lube*
"It's yours."
*downs family sized bottle of antacid*
I think that it is the grand inquisitor and he will heal and return to his duties fairly quickly, maybe even in the kenobi show and fighting and killing Reva. That would be awesome.
It would be interesting to de-canonize Rebels considering that Hera was mentioned in Rogue One which was a Disney Star Wars creation and then having the Andor series coming up to solidify it.
Hera was not only mentioned, the Ghost is actively part of Scarif, and they get 1 or 2 kills in the background
@@tk-6967 The ghost was in the rise of skywalker too. Probably being flown by Jacen Syndulla.
Not to mention the recent canon Squadrons game which has Hera actively appear, or the various Disney Canon books she's in
And even the Ahsoka series is seemingly continuing the Rebels series
Sabine is in Ahsoka.
It’s pretty easy to explain or speculate subtle differences within a species. They can be just as diverse as humans right? It’s like people complained a newer dewback toy looked too different from the old Kenner one. Well, dewbacks can come in different breeds, just like horses, cows or lizard species in general.
Well, as the Grand Inquisitor himself said, “Some things are worse than death”
The Grand Inquisitor being stabbed by Reva is the only part of both episodes that triggered a record screech in my head to "Wait wut? Hold up. What the heck is that?!"
I hated it so much.
Reva impaling the Grand Inquisitor makes no sense. The Grand Inquisitor is far more powerful than Reva who is the least powerful Inquisitor and would sense her betrayal not walk directly into her lightsabre. I don't think there are 'other' Grand Inquisitors or clones because he is only a tool for palpatine not as important as Vader and there was no replacement Grand Inquisitor after he died in Rebels. I actually thought that Reva and the Grand Inquisitor would fight in the hanger and the Grand Inquisitor kills her for her betrayal while Kenobi escapes. Then the Grand Inquisitor and Vader go on the hunt for Kenobi!
Yeah this whole scene was just lame. The fifth brother looks lame. Grand inquisitor looks lame. Reva's stupid overhyped jumping was lame. Idk, disney is just fucking lazy now.
Why did you think Reva will get killed by the Grand Inquisitor? The way the show is written clearly indicates that she will be the main villain hunting down Obi-Wan.
A question I really was unsure about was how did Reva know about the connection between Leia and Kenobi? As far as I know the only ones who know about the Skywalker children connection to Obi wan was the people who were there. It’s almost like she knew that Leia was special to Obi wan but how would she know? I genuinely don’t know that’s why I ask
She knew of the connection between Kenobi and Bail Organa. That would be look uppable because of Kenobi's connection to the Senate.
They only looked at Leia as a senator's daughter
Its LAZY story writers.
In some TCW tie in novels, bail and obi wan end up on a big adventure together to destroy some sith artifacts (the book is awful, reads like a hurt comfort fanfic trying to make the two a couple). In any case, after that they became close friends, and bail is let in on some jedi secrets. If reeva was able to find about that, or if the empire suspects bail brought obi wan to coruscant, then it’s reasonable for her to assume that obi might help bail organa if bails daughter goes missing
She saw Leia "Organa" Bail Organa (a friend of Kenobi)'s daughter. I question more how she knew Vader is Anakin... Since he discarded that name on Mustafar. From my knowledge he never used that name properly between Episode 3 and episode 6 and even then he never really referred to himself as Anakin after episode 3. So how does she know that? Ashoka found out through a familiar connection they were kind of like siblings in a way.
I hope the stab was only more sort of a temporary paralysis and the gran inquisitor recovers... Otherwise it would ruin the image of him being this rather powerful being... The shape might have been a little off but i still liked his voice and general appearance... this "killing" would have been too sudden, easy and random...
As a Cub Scout my mother taught me that same thing about arrows and stab wounds. She to “leave the dam thing in” because the shaft will create a dam in the blood flow.
The rest of the Kenobi show will show us if he is dead or not...
And Thrawn was one of the things that killed Rebels for me... I really liked Thrawn from the old books.
In Kenobi the Grand Inquisitor looks 699 years old and in Rebels he looks like 30 chuck Norris in a way
Yea he definitely needs to be just injured at this point to continue story to Rebals storyline, otherwise they really have messed up.
I’m betting the Inquistor isn’t dead and isn’t going to be at all pleased with Reva when he’s able to get back up.
Heck, now that I think on it, this perfect opportunity for Reva. Instead of leaving him in the gutter, she drags him back to her fellow Inquistors, pulling some fake tears and goes “Oh no! Look what Kenobi did to our Grand Inquistor! We must hunt him down and I, the Third Sister, shall lead you to victory!”
While Inqui is slowly recovering, Reva hopes to find Kenobi and get promoted, or attempt to arrange an accident for him so he doesn’t wake up from his coma. However that plan goes out the window when he does wake up and tells everyone who exactly stabbed him.
She didn't cut off his mouth, he can just tell the other Inquisitors that she tried to kill him lol
@@LordVader1094 not if he’s in a deep coma for a spell.
Or Vader shows up all pissed cause she tried fightin Kenobi. To which the dark lord does what he pleases and beheads her.
@@tigershark1313 To quote a certain demon from a Disney film about a Greek hero, "You mean *if* he finds out."
The Jedi at the temple seemed off to me, like they were trying to make them overly acrobatic and the actors were trying too hard. Most blaster deflections and such we've seen have been more wrist movements, while this scene was full body and flips and crap. (Akin to that spin move by one of the mods in the Book of Boba final fight)
Maybe she was using Ataru form of lightsaber combat.
The Grand Inquisitor is giving me live action Cat in the Hat vibes
If he is dead, and Rebels is officially made non canon…what’s that mean for Maul???
Maul is my favorite character in Star Wars so of course my first thought is about him…
they wont make rebels non cannon. theyre still working on another season.
@@jimmybowman6294 Where did you hear this?
@@eliminator1472 they announced it a few years ago now
@@jimmybowman6294 But Filoni literaly said there wont be s5.
@@saytam_ar as of when
To note Riva, in the initial opening of the show there was a moment when it focused on some younglings doing martial arts training, the camera pulled away from a black girl among the younglings. And who made their escape after their master was slain. Another youtuber speculated that she blames obi-wan for showing up too late to help and that's why she felt such hatred towards him
There was a kid in Rebels season one and he was in the imperial academy on Lothal. Ezra was undercover there and befriended him. The kid said that his sister went through the academy years before him and she disappeared. I was actually hoping that Reva was his sister. But now, Reva is so terrible I'm glad she's just a surviving youngling.
I think he may go the Maul route and his hatred is what keeps him alive
But yet when he died in Rebels, he essentially redeemed himself. He chose to die rather than face Vader for his failure. He said himself, there are far worse things to fear than death. This is not a man who's filled with rage like Maul.
@@stevensanna3651 I mean I wouldn’t wanted to face a disappointed Vader.
Show: shocking death meant to portray how unhinged the villain is
People who watched Rebels: [visible confusion]
Sure they **could** explain how the Grand Inquisitor's alive, but that's not the point. The scene immediately undercuts it's own dramatic weight out of apparent sheer ineptitude, with the writers somehow not having basic info from a story they're poaching characters from. Anything they do now will come across as furious backpedaling.
There's also this annoying trend where deaths mean absolutely nothing because it's casually undone all the time now. Maul was a grand event that shook up the Clone Wars cartoon, now it's just a fake out.
i agree with a lot of the comments on this video i think that even though he was stabbed in the gut he is probably gonna be alive still because the fifth brother was probably on his way to help the grand inquisitor take out obi wan and if necessary reva so when he discovered the grand inquisitor he probably brought him back to a medical facility and he's healing in a bacta tank well probably see him again in later episodes. but we have to remember there have been crazier things take darth he got cut in half and survived maybe due to his hatred of obi wan but then theres anakin he got his arms legs and hands cut off then was caught on fire and turned into darth vader and we cant forget admiral trench his ship got blown up with him on it and he survived whether this was disney being lazy and not wanting to invent a new character or he actually survived I don't know but we need to remember to keep an open mind and wait for later episodes of obi wan and see if disney tells us how he survives or if he's actually dead
With a plasma blade of about 2000°C you would burn up inside within seconds. The whole lightsaber stab wound survival stuff is mood killing in it's highest degree.
Cutting off a limb and cauterising the wound on the go within split seconds while pssing through is likely, but then you would vaporise the surrounding area when stabbing.
Maybe I am too old or too realistic, but even when applying the highest order of fantasy in there it is still highly doubtable to survive anything like this....
Yes, the jedi died saving younglings. Very heroic. How they put themselves at risk was heroic. Why does that make me so angry right now? Like I wish that's how things happened in there real world. The Jedi wouldn't wait 45 minutes to help the younglings while they were being blasted.
Finally, a true good guy with a lightsaber
They don't go into the temple to help their own padawans and then proceed to stand outside either-
Yeah I’ll still say Cad Bane looked like that because again he’s an old man he ain’t gonna look the same after 20+ years
You’re a lot more forgiving of this than I am Alan. I’m of the opinion that the Grand Inquisitor was killed because either Disney is screwing up their own canon out of sheer incompetence, lack of understanding of their own intellectual property and that neither Dave Filoni nor John Favreau are involved in the writing or production of Kenobi. Or that they’ll bring him back in a ridiculous “gotcha, he’s not really dead” trope that seems to be thematic of most Disney Star Wars productions in recent years.
I don't understand how Disney hasn't gave Dave and John the main producers chairs, just like Kevin with Disney. At least the two of them are competent enough to make some really amazing star wars content. Mandalorian was awesome, rebels was great, and clone wars amazing, specially the ending of the series.
*My Personal Theory:*
I think Vader will see Reva's potential in exposing Kenobi, I think she'll take this "credit" and vader will give her some type of promotion for finding his old master. I think then Vader will deal with the Grand Inquisitor whilst he heals in a bacta or whatnot but will still give him a chance to lead the Inqusitors being like "Do not fail me again." leading us to his position in rebels where he cannot afford to fail Vader (Leading to his actual death).
I hope that the recent Leak is going to be wrong. :)
I think he’s alive. They wouldn’t retcon Rebels. Rupert Friend did a fabulous job.
My guess is he survive the stab. They rush him back to the Inquisitor base that we saw in the trailer and Reva got arrest by the Storm Troopers, as like what we saw in the trailer where the troopers pointing their guns while inside the base hangar.
Grand Inquisitor got his gut replace with the mechanical one just like what happen to Fennec Shand. And that's why we got the skinny version of him in the Rebel series.
But that's just my theory. A -game- fan theory.
I actually agree with you, I would tend to think that the Pa' skill sets, etc might make them become Temple guardians in greater numbers than some other species and that there were several who Fell....and the fact that he doesn't even LOOK like the Grand Inquisitor from Rebels makes me feel there is more than one....
He looks like what I expected the live action GI to look like and it's consistent with the comic too. Pretty sure same guy
The real danger from a stomach wound is the stomach acids as the other organs in your body don't have the protective anti acids your stomach lining would.
Also thrawn wouldn't consider someone intentionally making defective equipment for the empire an innocent. He was cold and calculating but no less ruthless when it was needed. A bunch of civilians sabotaging war gear would not but spared his retaliation.
Perhaps the biggest giveaway that this is in fact not the Grand Inquisitor we are looking for is the cape. He would never wear such a dangerous thing. 😁
I literally yelled "No capes!" While watching.
@@moonshine588 Same.. Cape dragging along on sandy planet & on dirty back alleys in there & possibly on other planets.. Also it's just not generally needed & this Grand Inquisitor isn't one with terrifying looks, skinnier body, longer head & scary yellow eyes. Bleh :/ Still, supporting current & future productions with forever Mickey+ Sub & waiting for Willow series
They messed up big time with the Grand Inquisitor's appearance. There was more or less consistency with the movies, animated shows, and comics. Taller and thinner body, longer head, etc.
I was very surprised to see Reva stab him, but of course he's not dead. Just playing it for shock value. Can't imagine how that unfolds with him and Reva.
I thoroughly enjoyed the first two episodes of Kenobi. Even better, it FELT like Star Wars. As far as the Grand Inquisitor went, I was disappointed in how he looked comparative to his character in Rebels. I THINK he didn't die from his wound in the second episode. I doubt Disney made a "mistake" of this level, not with both Favreau and Filoni keeping an eye on things.
TBH I was super sucked into the show watching both episodes back to back but when the Grand Inquisitor got ran through it took me completely out of it. I'm sure the show will continue to be great and I'm REALLY hoping they pull a quick fix to this somehow.
I still think he's an amazing villian
My biggest issue is that this 3rd sister knows Anakin is Darth Vader. Like that kinda makes a big plot hole, his identity was supposed to be a complete secret. Not even Tarkin knew, I mean he was suspicious, but this was not common knowledge.
Exactly..... Disney with no regard for previous lore screwing it up yet again..... i really hoped they wouldnt ruin Kenobi but should have know better!! Im sure theyl treat his character just as badley as they treated previous to push their new one and show how great they are.....GI is the latest victim!
The head could be a stylistic choice, something to do with the art department, or perhaps creative licensing to allow the actor to show more emotion? CGI over practical effects could explain partly Cad Bane.
Also, the Grand Inquisitor looks like the Dollar Store version in Kenobi... so... IS He the same race still? Who knows...
Correction: the Third Sister (Reva) WAS a former Jedi. _Star Wars: The Dark Side_ establishes that all Inquisitors are former Jedi.
Second Sister was a Padawan
I think it's pretty obvious she's the girl from the intro.
@@elketerbentzadik which could explain why she knows Anakin is Vader, not exactly a stretch to imagine she actually saw him raiding the Jedi Temple with the clones, who would likely have begun referring to him as Lord Vader by then...but no, it's clearly completely beyond the realms of all possibility that she could know who Vader really is.
@@cptsteele91 This actually works pretty well if she was hiding around the corner or something when the youngling referred to him as "Master Skywalker" shortly before being turned into Padawan Sushi and kept hidden until his call with Palpatine who referred to him as "Lord Vader" - she'd know exactly who he was and who he became
I teared up at the Order 66 scene, especially with what we've seen from Grogu's perspective too... especially after what has happened recently in our country with children...
That must have been the absolute most terrifying thing ever, to face that being so young.
It's Fantasy; don't tell you are one of those Twitter people that wanted a Trigger Warning on the Kenobi series.
@@travishillsthedarkangelbun504 oh eww you're a white supremacist piece of shit lame ass loser, gotcha. Take a look at this guy's channel, outwardly promoting that he believes in white nationalism. That's fucking disgusting my guy. Grow up.
The Grand Inquisitor doesn't die he just gets on Weight Watchers and his head shrinks. Also Darth Kennedy cares not for timelines in the Dark Side.
I was shocked when the grand inquisitor died because I enjoyed Star Wars rebels so much and didn’t want to see it become a legends category
Thanks for bringing this up, glad I’m not the only one super confused about this.
Also, anyone know how the third sister would know Vader’s identity? She shouldn’t know that, right?
Outside of Vader himself and Palpatine the only other person I can recall knowing about that was Thrawn (who figured it out for himself - if anyone was going to it would be Thrawn). Not that it should come as any great shock they'd flush yet another piece of lore down the shitter
Pretty sure the Order 66 scene was to set up Reva but it also reminded us of the events that led to the state of the galaxy so it hit two birds with one stone. Also I think the girl with the braided hair is Reva because they didn't need to add dialogue to that scene so I think they did it on purpose.
Thank you Generation Tech. This was bothering me too. I can agree with all the reasons you have come up with. I just hope Disney didn't screw up their own content which you had mentioned. As far as I was aware. All Disney is canon and follows same one long story with each other. I heard it was same character, but I was thinking it was just a different race member.
Dave Filoni seems to love screwing over the comic and novel writers, has anyone else noticed? I can't wait for the fans to turn on him
I think the grand inqusitor is still alive. The head shape only came from the fact that the actors are humans and Disney did bad CGI. It's only a possibility
I don't know if it was just me, but the Inquisitors were very cartoon-ishly "evil" than menacing. Yes, we are early into the series so not I'm gonna hold it against them.
Well that holds true to how they were portrayed in rebels
They're supposed to be. They're a bunch of fallen Jedi psychopaths out for blood under Darth Vaders leash
Alan talking about how the Grand Inquisitor was jabbed in one of his stomachs and the pain he felt
The Music:
They will just do a Boba and send him to the Bacta Tank. Maybe that's how we end up in the Inquisitor Lair.
I have also seen a lot of people getting annoyed by Leia outpacing adults but personally i do not believe it is as big as it is made out to be. 1. Obi Wan is trying to convince he is there to help and by capturing her would make her trust him far less and she would still make equally as much noise via shouting. 2. The contractors in the forest are not trying to harm her as they are trying to lure Obi Wan and not cause a diplomatic issue as it would create a lot of noise in the political world 3. Its for story telling and it ups the stakes. How boring would it be if they just grabbed her easily, shes meant to be the brother of Luke Skywalker
Edit: Im not trying to say its perfect as it could easily be improved but im loving this series sooooo much
Sister*
On the Leia part, you also need her to outpace adults if you want to make an interesting cinematic chase sequence. I feel like they did choreograph it a bit sloppy, with her basically just running behind a tree. And when she did do something clever to try to lose them, the kidnappers comically bumped their head or fell as if it were a cartoon. Seriously, someone needs to download the Hannah Barbara SFX library and turn that sequence into some Looney Tunes shite xD
The kidnapping alone would make a huge political impact (and more so when it was orchestrated by Imperial forces). Also it's a world with freking STUN WEAPONS. Just stun her, bang, done. Also no 10 year old outpaces an adult - that's just biology. And watching a slow, poorly edited chase IS BORING.
My take is that there is more than one Grand Inquisitor. The Grand Inquisitors are the former Jedi Temple guardians, who put the Jedi Padawan through the trials to become knights. The guardians were knowledgeable not both the light- and darksiders of the Force. So when the temple fell, their darkside natures became the most dominant. They became responsible for converting surviving younglings and captured padawans to the darkside to becone Inquisitors.
Like is it a retcon or did Disney forget rebels and there own comics
He's not dead because we have the Ahsoka show which pretty much comes from rebels
Neither, he's just injured.
Reva: you’re alive? How is this possible?
Grand Inquisitor: DOUBLE STOMACHS SON
The Grand Inquisitor and Fifth Brother seem to be hitting the Cafeteria more than the Inquisitor gym.
3rd Sister is so dead after this, how did she knew who Vader was if only Palps and Tarkin knew who he was?
Edit: "There are worse things than death."
I was surprised at first but then I thought that he got stabbed low enough that it was a horrible wound and not lethal, just enough that Reva could get him out of the way to claim her prize that he was attempting to steal from her.
Pretty sure that youngling in the beginning running away with her other Padawan friends was reeva and she's referred to as a gutter rat because she was probably living on the streets of courasant after the temple purge
Really the only thing I'd like to know is what her giant beef with Kenobi is. Like why does she loathe him so much? And what does she think he owes her?
I felt like the Grand Inquisitor is someone completely different. I highly suspect that a replacement, matching the Rebel's design will come by
HOPE SO. *Fingers Crossed to seeing more Skinny like character & terrifying as shown in Comics & Rebels animated series*
It’s pretty clear when the camera shows the Padawans in the Jedi temple the first one you see is a child who looks like Reva. Reva is not originally a street rat, but likely is one of the few younglings who manages to escape Order 66. Likely she survived as a street rat on Coruscant until discovered by one or more of the Inquisitors or Vader himself.
As to the Inquisitor, it would be a tie in to Rise of Skywalker, for the Inquisitor to be cloned and might tie into the Bad Batch & Mandalorian as well.
I don’t think he’s dead.
Or alternatively that could be a different grand inquisitor?
Who just so happens to be the same species, have the same eye color, and the same cybernetics? No, I'm pretty sure he's the same one
That was his *big boned* brother we never knew about, not the same guy we know from Rebels!
@@bendavis3778 well as it was mentioned in the video it appears that a lot of Jedi temple guards were of the same species which I concur it does appear possible multiple Pau’an existed. And being they’d be the highest ranking Jedi to join the inquisitors could also make sense why they become leaders.
As most inquisitors were padawan’s with only one 1 Knight who’s presumed to have been killed by Cal Kestis and 1 former master that was out of the jedi order for years and was also killed on Mon Cala.
I am sorry Allen, I don't watch to see what you are saying but the fact you look like you just woke up or you had a heavy night of drinking. I love it.
1st may the force be with you
Getting impaled through the abdomen above the navel(belly button)as mentioned in this video is not a non-lethal injury. Remember, the aorta runs down the spine below the heart. If they nicked the aorta, there is a chance it could cauterize the wound, although I doubt it due to the intense pressure of this artery. If the aorta is severed completely, that would result in massive bleeding and almost instant death. Of course, this is assuming the grand inquisitor’s internal organ placement is at least similar to a human’s, which is highly likely due to his similar body shape.
I feel like this series isnt the best I mean the story writing isn’t that in depth or interesting. Having Princess Leia be there makes a new hope a little more confusing. Reva is just annoying and stupid. She doesn’t sound like a broken obsessive person she sounds and acts Bad in my opinion and over the top. And her killing the grand Inquisitor from rebels sort of makes the main villain of rebels feel more week especially since it takes about three seasons to beat the guy and this guy is finished on the second episode it just doesn’t make sense. I don’t really like it that much.
good job on your commentary towards the end
They made him a joke
How so?
He got the ol' Grievous treatment lol
@@pepperroni6252 He's supposed to be the strongest Inquistor and in Rebels he was shown to be very intelligent, thus should've seen someone as hot headed and arrogant as Reva would try to stab him if given the chance.
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 not following you, he can intelligent and still get surprised
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 What if it was part of his plan?? OooOooOoh
Two scenes stood out the most to me. One was the GI getting stabbed in the gut, the other was the Inquisitor chick (forgot her name) doing that frontflip over a 2-foot gap. It looked so bad.
I’m still confused about the opening scene…. So with the younglings didn’t anakin …. Put them to sleep in the room that they left? So does this mean they went back to the room to… take a nap thanks to uncle annie or is revenge of the smith retconning that part
There are multiple groups of younglings in the Jedi temple, so most likely it's a different group. It also was a different room so they might have went to that other room to hide.
They dont have to be the same group of learners, couldve been another room in the temple. Any number of scenerios
Definitely a different group of younglings and a different room
It's probably just another room.
Dude its probably just a different group of younglings man
Yeah I'd say "injured, survives, has a convenient excuse not to be in the rest of the series since they apparently couldn't afford Jason Isaacs".
Or in other words "he's been put in the fridge"
Tbh based on how they have treated the Grand Inquisitor in comics and now the Obi series, I dont know what is so grand about the Grand Inquisitor. Dude is a punching bag. He was treated better in Rebels.
I know. It's so frustrating. I loved him in Rebels. The scenes with him are the best parts of the first season. Now we've seen Darth Vader and Jocasta Nu disrespect him in the comics, and Reva disrespecting him here. He's no longer the intimidating villain he used to be, and it's sad.
Disney is so good at making us hate black characters.
Not cause she's a villain, but because she's so bad at acting (like Finn...).
Reva, the new Disney princess.
And people who defend woke crap