@@liammeadows9782 the link you supplied is a re-release, Terminator originally came out on the Reinforced record label in 1992, Metalheadz is Goldie's record label that wasn't even founded until 1994.
@@christianvictor827 I could be wrong, but aren't Austin Powers and Dr. Evil found to be brothers via that godawful third movie? If so, your comment still stands accurately somehow.
i was actually there when Goldie invented the wheel. no, not like a wheel up, the first actual wheel. he pointed to a vaguely circular boulder and said "HUEHEHHH". the other cavemen then spent several months chiseling it into a round shape while Goldie ate coca leaves. actually, we lost a lot of men to sabertooth tiger attacks because most of our spear guys were working on the wheel. it all ended up being for naught because when it was finished, Goldie took it to the top of a big hill and rolled it down, where it picked up a lot of speed, launched off a rock outcropping, and knocked out a woolly mammoth on the other side of the valley.
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 yes, he polarised and impoverished the country, but at least he did it in union jack colours. but then, goldie will be goldie.
I don't think so, because if you change the pitch, then the sound is shorter Timestreching allows the pitch to be changed while the sample duration remains the same
Lol Goldie was not the first person to use time stretching and/or an Eventide Harmonizer in the studio on drums or anything else for that matter ( The Eventide Harmonizer which is a studio effect not just a guitar effect, has been around since the 70's, the H3000 was released in 1986 and is a pitch shifter not a time stretcher ) so what he was doing here is not even time stretching. Never mind inventing it. Also FTR the Akai S950 sampler did have time stretching back in 1989 but it was an offline process that took time to compute.
It was Rob Playford (CEO of Moving Shadow Records) who produced anything Goldie did at that time. Its questionable if Goldie would have achieved as much without Rob Playford. No disrespect to Goldie though, without him there would be no Metalheadz Record label or the legendary Metalheadz Sunday sessions at Hoxton Square. Salute to the two legends in the game! Peace, love & respect.
Rob Playford wasn't involved with Goldie then. 92/93 period was Freebase, Mark Rutherford, Dego, Marc Mac and various other people in that role you're talking about. 1994 was when Goldie and Rob Playford's collaboration began.
Since there was no time at the time when Goldie invented time, it can also be said that Goldie is still and always will be inventing time all around us
Markus Rutherford did most of the engineering really so it was probably him who "invented" timestretching... goldie gets so much credit* when he's never been seen actually making music..
@@d_vrdlovec8724 Goldie has kinda admitted in other interviews that he was the guy with the ideas but that his own sound engineering skills are basic so he would work in the studio with guys like Marcus and Doc Scott who truly are world class production guys to help him realise his vision.
The Harmonizer is not time stretch it pitch shifts. In fact Goldie litarally tells you what it does in the video. Time stretching is litarally the opposite, it changes tempo without changing pitch, this changes pitch without changing tempo.
It’s a harmonizer, it changed pitch while retaining the time. So it is in fact stretching a pitched up or down element to keep it in time with the source element
@@mrpesk1 and that's not timestretching. That's pitch shifting. Doesn't matter that it can be an algo which keeps it in tempo, the goal is still pitch shifting, and not timestretching.
Goldie is one of those rare producers who doesn't actually know how to do anything himself. He basically has an "assistant" in the studio and he just tells him what he wants to hear.
@fritz blob and dillinja, Optical and a few more but yes Rob Playford engineered the whole of timeless and most of his early works. In fairness he has never denied it and says his dyslexia makes it impossible to actually do the work. I don't think it takes away from his status. As an example James Brown played nothing but nobody claims Bootsy, Purdie and the JBs made the music
@@leecourtney1225 I warmed up for Goldie in 2003/4 back then he had two metal cases full of dub plates with his famous scrawl on them wish I’d asked him for one but I was too in awe! First thing he did when he came on was turn the monitors up to 11 😂.. I didn’t even think to take a marker for him to autograph my Metalheadz records ffs 🤦🏻
this reminds me of projects I did for school back in 8th grade where you'd cobble together a house made out of lies and get a passing grade for presentation.
Absolutely, the Eventide Harmonizer has been around since the 70's ( the H3000 model was released in 1986 ) and is pretty much a pitch shifter. Real time, time stretching was not possible at all back then. The Akai s950 sampler had time stretching back in 1989 but it was an off-line process.
Was this before Cher invented autotune? All kidding aside, he is a legend and a visionary. Personally i don’t have a problem with him not doing the actual hands on production. An architect doesn’t build the house either but it wouldn’t look the same without him. That said: Timeless is a masterpiece and on a different level than the rest of his catalogue.
goldie invented gold teeth only, no timestretch gets invented by these people... German and japanes Engineers invented everything a musician plays with.
Think you mis understand the technique that he discovered but agree with in general people should check out musique concrete for really early roots of sampling
@@JlMMEY Yeah, I would definitely like to know if this is true? Sincere question BTW. I'm pretty certain Terminator was the first commercially released example, but I have wondered if anyone else had run breakbeats through before him,
I remember going to a goldie DJ set in a local club with a friend who was a huge fan nearly 20 years ago. My friend had a disposable camera with him on the off chance we got to meet him. We arrived early and sure enough, goldie was right there by the bar, wearing a furry coat if memory serves me right, talking with some guy staring at the stage. Took my buddy a few minutes to build up the courage to approach him to ask for a picture and butter him up with compliments beforehand. Goldie simply told him to fuck himself and turned away lol. No picture😂
Awwww must have been in a bad mood or something. I threw my iPhone on-stage at Ultra music festival and he picked it up, took a selfie, then took a pic of the crowd with me dead bang in the centre. Didn’t get to meet him, but he was my photographer for a moment 🙃
@@aotearoaaudio Damn that's amazing! I'd have that photo on the wall. Yeah not sure what was up that night. Good gig but the interaction with him overshadowed our memory of the night.
I'm guessing from the tone and drastically different outcome from your interaction that you are most likely female. At the end of the day dude's are gonna be dudes. Has been the case since the 5th grade!
Did he invent time stretch if the equipment already existed? Surely he created a new way of using the function on the unit. He invented the new genre style.
"Even though I didn't know who he was, I still asked 'Who is this guy?'." Isn't that how it normally works? I've not found myself asking who a guy is when I already know or remember him. lol
Goldie was well known before the music as a graff writer, and a Bboy .Those who used to go to Rock City in the mid 80s for the legendery bboy battles know him. The UK bboys who moved over to breakbeat hardcore were also well aware of him from the Spraycan art book, and the "Bombin" documentery. He had put in serious work in UK street art culture WAY before any of the rave stuff .He was no johhny come lately.
Goldie is a mate of mine. Known him since the 80’s. He did my 2nd 12” artwork. Plus other band jewellery. An extremely talented brother in many respects. Breaking, graffiti, art, jewellery, DJaying, music… But he didn’t invent time stretching ffs!!🙄
who makes this rubbish?! c'mon...Eventide Harmonizers are not 'old pieces of guitar kit'. even in 1992, the H3000 was as cutting edge as it got for a DSP/FX unit, there's a reason Goldie calls it 'the daddy', because it was (and still is in many respects)! also, pointing out the obvious here, but saying Goldie invented timestretching is just laughable. For a start, this was 1992 meaning the Akai S950 and S1000 samplers were readily available, both of which predate 'Terminator' and both had timestretching, and if you want to go back even further there are even earlier machines like the H910 or EMS that were doing timestretching as far back as the mid-1980's...also, there were guitar pedals that could do timestretched pitching like the BOSS PS-2 released in 1987...people were doing this to vocals, drum breaks, guitars, etc., for years before jungle/d&b. what a load of bollocks, and no hate to Goldie because he isn't claiming to have invented anything...he's just telling the story as it happened. whoever wrote and produced this show was just a lazy bastard who couldn't be bothered to do an hours worth of research on music hardware.
My friend and I used to piss about with tiny loops on a large sample on the Amiga back in 1990 or 1991 and scrolling that tiny 'window' across the waveform, this created the obvious time stretch you would imagine.
He didn't INVENT time stretching, ( you can probably thank Akai for that, their S1000 sampler was I think the first device that had it in a software update). Goldie may well the first person that USED timestretching as an effect on breakbeats.
Time stretching was a feature available as a processing function on the Akai S1000 sampler from about 1990 and used to either change the pitch without changing time or the reverse and was actually used to subtlety pitch the Depeche Mode vocal sample in the Kick Squad track Champion Sound on Kickin Records 1990. Goldie's samples were pitched up in octaves (+12) increments and sound more obviously time stretched and more blatant. Sorry guys, No inventing going on here.. ruclips.net/video/IDn7ZDcx9w0/видео.html
I'm not 100% sure on this point (but pretty sure) - the Akai and other samplers can apply time stretching on samples once they are sampled, while the Eventide Ultra-Harmonizer can time stretch/pitch shift in real time and simultaneously at different rates with live audio. Those are completely different things and can be utilized differently.
Ok guys..people had messed around with technology (and drugs) before hand fair enough and this technique had probably been used before. But had it been used with speeded up breakbeats? Looking back at the time it was good to turn away from the chipmunk vocals and come up with a 'different' out there and experimental sound that dance music needed. Music that was there to be played loud to people on drugs and in that regard he hit the nail on the head. Both him and Scott were obsessed with that darker sound and wanted to take it as far as possible. Musics always about time and place.
had they got time stretch confused with pitch shift ? example of time stretch. AKAI S2000 sampler using a snare sample. the sample is 2 seconds long. you have begin buffer and and end buffer to loop the sample front to end . you move the 2 buffers together so only a fraction of the sample is looping , it will sound like a hum its looping that fast . you move both buffers together across the sample while the sample is looping. it will sound like the sample has been slowed down but it will keep its original pitch . the slower you move the buffers the longer the effect will be. thats time stretch
Considering Robert Playford of 2BadMice fame was behind most of Goldies early productions, it's safe to say he is the inventor, even if incorrectly attributed. Pretty sure timestretching has been around since Musique Concrete and Radiophonic Workshop stuff albeit with tape manipulation, not delay lines and retriggering and scrubbing of sample start position in realtime with a modwheel or whatever was used
@@deanosaur808 i wasn't aware the 1950ies was the "Dark Ages"you learn something new everyday. was just making the point that timestretching has been a thing loooong before electronic dance music of any kind was about considering Goldie is claiming to be the pioneer of an audio manipulation technique that is probably older than him
i remember watching an old vid one night of them 2 in his studio. it was a case of rob playford making something and goldie stood behind him saying " yeah that it " like it was goldies idea. he obviously had alot of input but i think in the early days it was rob playfords musical creativity . a bit like a traditional band the bass player is usually the mastermind and the lead singer or lead guitarist takes all the credit
Goldie had an idea for a tune but it had no context in life at that time so he invented the concept of inner city living and had his personal town planner Rob Halford construct inner cities for him, just for that tune!
I used to DJ in London back in the day I started in 85 when I first heard that track I was like this shit is next level 😂 beat track of that era period !
Recording studios are great for stuff like that, just like Nirvana were playing nursery rhymes with distortion on/off or something similar. I got a Korg Electribe er-1, analogue drum synth. My idea is to use it with some live musicians, wah tapping techno bass (me) and the right place to play it...Brighton? Who the fuck knows what will be the next thing, but this explains drum and bass perfectly...Great video.
Much love to Goldie but what's being described here isn't time stretching. Time stretching is changing the speed of a sample without affecting it's pitch.
@@danxnation2159 no it's not. Get yourself an akai sampler and try applying time stretching to a sample - you'll change the speed of the sample but not the pitch.
@@lost_boy yes, but if you play it at a higher pitch it plays faster, in order to pitch the audio up and it stay the same length you have to stretch it
If you timestretch something to twice it's length and then play it an octave up on the keyboard, you end up with audio playing back the same length of time as it started at but it's been pitched shifted up an octave
Love Goldie, but he's a bit of a tool. If anything, it's Rob Playford who gets the credit for Goldie's entire career. And even then, it's hardly revolutionary.
Развлечения
Metalheadz - Terminator (1992) for anyone who didn't catch what tune they're talking about
Rufige kru not metalheadz
@@codenamenel that's terminator 2
@@codenamenel ruclips.net/video/DPtSmU194U4/видео.html
@@liammeadows9782 the link you supplied is a re-release, Terminator originally came out on the Reinforced record label in 1992, Metalheadz is Goldie's record label that wasn't even founded until 1994.
@@liammeadows9782 ruclips.net/video/BQFXneSROf8/видео.html
Little known fact: Goldie also invented the treble clef, transistors, the equalizer (audio device and TV show) and peer to peer file sharing.
He is also credited for creating the integrated chip, air and the concept of the sandwich.
He's also Björk's dad.
That is his reputation. Pretty much a genius
he also invented Tor and the Silk Road
And the wheel. Don't forget that.
"even though i didn't know who he was, i was like 'who is this guy?'" 😂
Fucking lol
Incredible line.
Bollocks I just wrote this exact comment
I have notified Private Eye
Never a truer word spoken
The only thing Goldie has ever stretched is the truth.
haha...must be fun on planet Goldie. Lets say a 'unique' individual.
Well I did just him comin out your mum’s flat mate
For me. Tango and ss were dropping bigger bombs at this time.
😂😂
then who invented timestreching YOU ....... HAHA
Goldie was actually the drummer for the Winstons too.
LOL!
LMAO!!! 😂😂😂
Amen, brotha!
Wow the RUclips algorithm has been pushing this video hard after 10 years of just sitting there
TBH I believe a Reddit post kickstarted this random wave of views lol
Gee that's the most outrageous claim since Austin Powers' dad invented the question mark. 😂
Argh - of course I meant "Dr Evil from Austin Powers' dad".
@@christianvictor827 The details of his life are inconsequential.
No Mini Me, we don’t gnaw on our kit-ty.
@@christianvictor827 I could be wrong, but aren't Austin Powers and Dr. Evil found to be brothers via that godawful third movie? If so, your comment still stands accurately somehow.
@@hamupinhere You're absolutely right! Perhaps I'm still in denial about that. 😄
i was actually there when Goldie invented the wheel. no, not like a wheel up, the first actual wheel. he pointed to a vaguely circular boulder and said "HUEHEHHH". the other cavemen then spent several months chiseling it into a round shape while Goldie ate coca leaves. actually, we lost a lot of men to sabertooth tiger attacks because most of our spear guys were working on the wheel. it all ended up being for naught because when it was finished, Goldie took it to the top of a big hill and rolled it down, where it picked up a lot of speed, launched off a rock outcropping, and knocked out a woolly mammoth on the other side of the valley.
FACT
Goldie is the Boris Johnson of the DnB scene
He wish he had that mullet
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 yes, he polarised and impoverished the country, but at least he did it in union jack colours. but then, goldie will be goldie.
@@tomonetruth and you think that just happened in the last few years, aye?
@@mysticnovelbro Early nineties, maybe. I think Timeless was 95.
@@tomonetruth i was referring to the impoverishment of the country, sir.
Is this a piss take lol
muh timestreshn gnosmesayin
He is talking about pitch shifting, time stretch is on the vocal for Dred Bass for example, comes from the Akai sampler
"Whaaaaaaaat deeee tiiiime yoooouuu aaaaaavv thhhhe dreeeead"
I think dred bass was the first track I ever heard time stretched vocals, it's still a great track too
I don't think so, because if you change the pitch, then the sound is shorter
Timestreching allows the pitch to be changed while the sample duration remains the same
Lol Goldie was not the first person to use time stretching and/or an Eventide Harmonizer in the studio on drums or anything else for that matter ( The Eventide Harmonizer which is a studio effect not just a guitar effect, has been around since the 70's, the H3000 was released in 1986 and is a pitch shifter not a time stretcher ) so what he was doing here is not even time stretching. Never mind inventing it.
Also FTR the Akai S950 sampler did have time stretching back in 1989 but it was an offline process that took time to compute.
Winner writes history...as it´s best...
@@docjonesOG just look at the second world war
@@the-np4mr i think, this single comment will go in the wrong direction
@@docjonesOG depends who wins, Godbless
@@the-np4mr better answer.... ^^
It was Rob Playford (CEO of Moving Shadow Records) who produced anything Goldie did at that time. Its questionable if Goldie would have achieved as much without Rob Playford. No disrespect to Goldie though, without him there would be no Metalheadz Record label or the legendary Metalheadz Sunday sessions at Hoxton Square. Salute to the two legends in the game!
Peace, love & respect.
Bomb scare what a fucking track eh!
The Blue note! And you’re right about Rob Playford
Rob Playford wasn't involved with Goldie then. 92/93 period was Freebase, Mark Rutherford, Dego, Marc Mac and various other people in that role you're talking about. 1994 was when Goldie and Rob Playford's collaboration began.
Sunday metalheadz and Monday anohka. Ah the memberberries.
Without Playford millions of kids from the USA wouldn't know about DNB tbth due to the 01.1 mix
Little unknown fact Goldie also created penicillin, television and the bacon butty 🤣
not quite true, he didn't invent the butty but he did invent bacon
Before he invented time stretching it is a well known fact Goldie invented time.
Since there was no time at the time when Goldie invented time, it can also be said that Goldie is still and always will be inventing time all around us
Then he took it back and that's how he made Timeless
I also heard he creates the bodies but he doesn't erase the bodies
You need something to stretch don't you
Pretty sure time-stretching was around in 1988 on the Akai 950 sampler - or did Goldie invent Akai as well?
Goldie gave birth to the Japanese.
@@HenritheHorse lol
@petetestube2904 Goldie invented skinheads.
Markus Rutherford did most of the engineering really so it was probably him who "invented" timestretching... goldie gets so much credit* when he's never been seen actually making music..
are you suggesting it's a Milli Vanilli case , Goldie had the look and someone else had the musical composition production skills
@@d_vrdlovec8724 Goldie has kinda admitted in other interviews that he was the guy with the ideas but that his own sound engineering skills are basic so he would work in the studio with guys like Marcus and Doc Scott who truly are world class production guys to help him realise his vision.
@@patrickwilliams6143 Yeah we all know that. so why the hype over goldie?
The Harmonizer is not time stretch it pitch shifts. In fact Goldie litarally tells you what it does in the video. Time stretching is litarally the opposite, it changes tempo without changing pitch, this changes pitch without changing tempo.
It’s a harmonizer, it changed pitch while retaining the time. So it is in fact stretching a pitched up or down element to keep it in time with the source element
I'm glad someone said it. His tracks do use timestretched breaks, but that's not what he's describing in this clip.
@@mrpesk1 and that's not timestretching. That's pitch shifting. Doesn't matter that it can be an algo which keeps it in tempo, the goal is still pitch shifting, and not timestretching.
@@bontempo1271 Well actually it's pitch shifting using time correction.
Anyway look I take your point. I'm just saying to keep the tempo in tact the harmonizer has to timestretch/compress in order to that. Peace
Goldie is one of those rare producers who doesn't actually know how to do anything himself. He basically has an "assistant" in the studio and he just tells him what he wants to hear.
Aye Rob Playford
lol is this true? Man I want that assistant cause I have a lot of dope ideas that I can't get out
@@gangstaboy9387 Yeah its true. ruclips.net/video/ulUgqzF3HAI/видео.html
@fritz blob and dillinja, Optical and a few more but yes Rob Playford engineered the whole of timeless and most of his early works. In fairness he has never denied it and says his dyslexia makes it impossible to actually do the work. I don't think it takes away from his status. As an example James Brown played nothing but nobody claims Bootsy, Purdie and the JBs made the music
@@leecourtney1225 I warmed up for Goldie in 2003/4 back then he had two metal cases full of dub plates with his famous scrawl on them wish I’d asked him for one but I was too in awe! First thing he did when he came on was turn the monitors up to 11 😂.. I didn’t even think to take a marker for him to autograph my Metalheadz records ffs 🤦🏻
this reminds me of projects I did for school back in 8th grade where you'd cobble together a house made out of lies and get a passing grade for presentation.
If only you knew then that you could get paid to do that for Channel 4!
@@khaldub only if your mates with some rich prick. goldie was and probably still is, a c-nt
Fucking LOL.
Change title to Idris Elba tells lies for 2 minutes straight.
This isn’t time stretching is it? At least not how I know it (the typical granulizing sound without changing pitch.)
Absolutely, the Eventide Harmonizer has been around since the 70's ( the H3000 model was released in 1986 ) and is pretty much a pitch shifter. Real time, time stretching was not possible at all back then.
The Akai s950 sampler had time stretching back in 1989 but it was an off-line process.
It's a realtime process. You two boneheads just don't understand anything about making music people like.
@@noname-ng6sj Neither do you by the sounds of it.
Was this before Cher invented autotune?
All kidding aside, he is a legend and a visionary. Personally i don’t have a problem with him not doing the actual hands on production. An architect doesn’t build the house either but it wouldn’t look the same without him. That said: Timeless is a masterpiece and on a different level than the rest of his catalogue.
She also invented Botox 🤣🤣🤣
goldie invented gold teeth only, no timestretch gets invented by these people... German and japanes Engineers invented everything a musician plays with.
Slick Rick would like a word about the teeth
Goldie fed funky drummer into a piece of audio equipment that was in the studio - what neoteric wizardry! 😂
And that was a corner of a tune to begin with
Goldie just be the loudest.. best to bypass him and talk to the engineers😂
bit of a difference between invent and discover
Goldie also invented Rob Playford, the first ever sampler from a calculator and gaffa tape, and he's great uncle Albert invented electricity.
😂
Your right about Rob Playford
Its amazing that Goldie had chance to do this what with all of the time he was spending on designing the LHC and inventing bread.
😂😂
lol
Lmao 😂😂
Didn't he invent sliced bread too? 😂
Pitch shifting is not the same as timestreaching tv guy
Reminds me of the mighty boosh "Howard's Note" scene. "I FOUND A NEW NOTE, ALWAYS KNEW IT WAS THERE - BETWEEN B AND C."
That's the "h", as in "b-a-c-h". ;-)
If you get into microtonal music you'll find at least 50 notes between b and c. Not sure which one is Howards one though.
It was pitch shifting
Using a pitch shifter is not time stretching. Goldie used a pitch shifter.
i thought time stretching is when you change the speed with out effecting pitch. are you sure yk what ur talking about
@@trublu5925 Time stretching is what RUclips does when you slow it down. Are you sure YOU know what your are talking about? 😄
Holy Ignorance: Goldie invented time stretching! Doh? Research Musique Concrete and the pioneers of electronics. Sad.
Think you mis understand the technique that he discovered but agree with in general people should check out musique concrete for really early roots of sampling
@@rw8515 what technique? sounds just like regular pitch shifting. and he def wasnt the first to apply it to breakbeats.
@@JlMMEY ahh ok - who was time stretching breaks before?
@@JlMMEY Yeah, I would definitely like to know if this is true? Sincere question BTW. I'm pretty certain Terminator was the first commercially released example, but I have wondered if anyone else had run breakbeats through before him,
1982 extra t's ... E.T boogie 12"
Pretty sure it was time-travelling that Goldie invented.
I remember going to a goldie DJ set in a local club with a friend who was a huge fan nearly 20 years ago. My friend had a disposable camera with him on the off chance we got to meet him. We arrived early and sure enough, goldie was right there by the bar, wearing a furry coat if memory serves me right, talking with some guy staring at the stage. Took my buddy a few minutes to build up the courage to approach him to ask for a picture and butter him up with compliments beforehand. Goldie simply told him to fuck himself and turned away lol. No picture😂
Awwww must have been in a bad mood or something. I threw my iPhone on-stage at Ultra music festival and he picked it up, took a selfie, then took a pic of the crowd with me dead bang in the centre. Didn’t get to meet him, but he was my photographer for a moment 🙃
@@aotearoaaudio Damn that's amazing! I'd have that photo on the wall. Yeah not sure what was up that night. Good gig but the interaction with him overshadowed our memory of the night.
I'm guessing from the tone and drastically different outcome from your interaction that you are most likely female. At the end of the day dude's are gonna be dudes. Has been the case since the 5th grade!
@@erickelm4974 That's what you took from this.. Thinking I'm a female. Let's not bring gender into this, that has nothing to do with what I described.
@@erickelm4974 What the fuck does this even mean? If a woman threw up her phone for him he would’ve just broke it on his head or something?
Did he invent time stretch if the equipment already existed? Surely he created a new way of using the function on the unit. He invented the new genre style.
Yeah, bit of a mislead. I'd say maybe the first of few to discover the technique and put it into play.
No, and samplers did it already in the 80s.
"Even though I didn't know who he was, I still asked 'Who is this guy?'."
Isn't that how it normally works? I've not found myself asking who a guy is when I already know or remember him. lol
Waaaagh
Bollox
Goldie was well known before the music as a graff writer, and a Bboy .Those who used to go to Rock City in the mid 80s for the legendery bboy battles know him. The UK bboys who moved over to breakbeat hardcore were also well aware of him from the Spraycan art book, and the "Bombin" documentery. He had put in serious work in UK street art culture WAY before any of the rave stuff .He was no johhny come lately.
Ooooh graff writer, 🙄... You're hard
@@jamesjameson4566 What? It's just a phrase, you're the one projecting some sort of image onto it.
@@herpyderpy4366 another tough guy 🙄
@@jamesjameson4566 What crawled up yours?
His graffiti was and still is rubbish. Saw the rest of the B-boys but not him - is there any footage of him throwing down online?
Him and Michael Jackson actually collaborated to make the chicken McNugget
Invents? More like he was there when Rob did it...
Goldie is a mate of mine.
Known him since the 80’s.
He did my 2nd 12” artwork.
Plus other band jewellery.
An extremely talented brother in many respects.
Breaking, graffiti, art, jewellery, DJaying, music…
But he didn’t invent time stretching ffs!!🙄
Samplers had this feature way before Goldie even made his first beat and pitching isn't exactly time stretching is it?
the dumb media their woke narratives
Yep. No time stretching. just pitching
@@SRL001 it is stretched otherwise the sound wouldn't be in sync with the rest of the track and would be playing a lot faster
Cool spinal tap deleted scene
who makes this rubbish?! c'mon...Eventide Harmonizers are not 'old pieces of guitar kit'. even in 1992, the H3000 was as cutting edge as it got for a DSP/FX unit, there's a reason Goldie calls it 'the daddy', because it was (and still is in many respects)!
also, pointing out the obvious here, but saying Goldie invented timestretching is just laughable. For a start, this was 1992 meaning the Akai S950 and S1000 samplers were readily available, both of which predate 'Terminator' and both had timestretching, and if you want to go back even further there are even earlier machines like the H910 or EMS that were doing timestretching as far back as the mid-1980's...also, there were guitar pedals that could do timestretched pitching like the BOSS PS-2 released in 1987...people were doing this to vocals, drum breaks, guitars, etc., for years before jungle/d&b.
what a load of bollocks, and no hate to Goldie because he isn't claiming to have invented anything...he's just telling the story as it happened. whoever wrote and produced this show was just a lazy bastard who couldn't be bothered to do an hours worth of research on music hardware.
My friend and I used to piss about with tiny loops on a large sample on the Amiga back in 1990 or 1991 and scrolling that tiny 'window' across the waveform, this created the obvious time stretch you would imagine.
The psychedelic bands from the 60s 70s 80s etc had used this sort of technique just in a different way.
He didn't INVENT time stretching, ( you can probably thank Akai for that, their S1000 sampler was I think the first device that had it in a software update). Goldie may well the first person that USED timestretching as an effect on breakbeats.
Didn't Rob Playford produce and engineer all of goldie's music?
idk why dont u ask him
Time stretching was a feature available as a processing function on the Akai S1000 sampler from about 1990 and used to either change the pitch without changing time or the reverse and was actually used to subtlety pitch the Depeche Mode vocal sample in the Kick Squad track Champion Sound on Kickin Records 1990. Goldie's samples were pitched up in octaves (+12) increments and sound more obviously time stretched and more blatant. Sorry guys, No inventing going on here.. ruclips.net/video/IDn7ZDcx9w0/видео.html
I'm not 100% sure on this point (but pretty sure) - the Akai and other samplers can apply time stretching on samples once they are sampled, while the Eventide Ultra-Harmonizer can time stretch/pitch shift in real time and simultaneously at different rates with live audio. Those are completely different things and can be utilized differently.
But, surely Goldie invented the Akai S1000 sampler! 😝
Ok guys..people had messed around with technology (and drugs) before hand fair enough and this technique had probably been used before. But had it been used with speeded up breakbeats? Looking back at the time it was good to turn away from the chipmunk vocals and come up with a 'different' out there and experimental sound that dance music needed. Music that was there to be played loud to people on drugs and in that regard he hit the nail on the head. Both him and Scott were obsessed with that darker sound and wanted to take it as far as possible. Musics always about time and place.
“Time stretching” cracks me up. Dude put a drum machine through a a harmony effect. Wow this is science
had they got time stretch confused with pitch shift ? example of time stretch. AKAI S2000 sampler using a snare sample. the sample is 2 seconds long. you have begin buffer and and end buffer to loop the sample front to end . you move the 2 buffers together so only a fraction of the sample is looping , it will sound like a hum its looping that fast . you move both buffers together across the sample while the sample is looping. it will sound like the sample has been slowed down but it will keep its original pitch . the slower you move the buffers the longer the effect will be. thats time stretch
If you haven’t heard before, listen to time stretch by bass nectar
Goldie seems like he would be a nitty menace on too much MDMA 🤣
Considering Robert Playford of 2BadMice fame was behind most of Goldies early productions, it's safe to say he is the inventor, even if incorrectly attributed. Pretty sure timestretching has been around since Musique Concrete and Radiophonic Workshop stuff albeit with tape manipulation, not delay lines and retriggering and scrubbing of sample start position in realtime with a modwheel or whatever was used
Fuck me, no need to go back to the dark ages 😅 surely you can find examples from a year or two earlier 🤷
@@deanosaur808 i wasn't aware the 1950ies was the "Dark Ages"you learn something new everyday. was just making the point that timestretching has been a thing loooong before electronic dance music of any kind was about considering Goldie is claiming to be the pioneer of an audio manipulation technique that is probably older than him
i remember watching an old vid one night of them 2 in his studio. it was a case of rob playford making something and goldie stood behind him saying " yeah that it " like it was goldies idea. he obviously had alot of input but i think in the early days it was rob playfords musical creativity . a bit like a traditional band the bass player is usually the mastermind and the lead singer or lead guitarist takes all the credit
That's pitch shifting, not time stretching.
Wolverhampton invented time stretching 😂
Goldie invented graffiti , break dancing AND Drum and Bass...oh and Yoga
Goldie invented gold. His name was mad confusing at first.
It's blown me away that the timestretch in terminator wasnt used on a s950 or any Akai sampler.
what tune is playing at 1:08????
Metalheadz - Terminator (1992)
It's a few mins into the song, hope that helps
@@liammeadows9782 thank you bro!
@@mysteryY2K no problem
Goldie was ok but come on he was the dnb pinup for the 90s. He was a jungle Robbie Williams.
The British put such basic people on a pedestal. Did the same with Oasis & Radiohead. Booooooorrrnggg.
Hearing Terminator first time at a rave was a ‘moment’ ✨
Goldie had an idea for a tune but it had no context in life at that time so he invented the concept of inner city living and had his personal town planner Rob Halford construct inner cities for him, just for that tune!
He's a true pioneer - he invented guerilla street art and coined the term 'graffiti' for it.
I used to DJ in London back in the day I started in 85 when I first heard that track I was like this shit is next level 😂 beat track of that era period !
Recording studios are great for stuff like that, just like Nirvana were playing nursery rhymes with distortion on/off or something similar. I got a Korg Electribe er-1, analogue drum synth. My idea is to use it with some live musicians, wah tapping techno bass (me) and the right place to play it...Brighton? Who the fuck knows what will be the next thing, but this explains drum and bass perfectly...Great video.
Much love to Goldie but what's being described here isn't time stretching. Time stretching is changing the speed of a sample without affecting it's pitch.
But if you pitch it up and play it faster you have to stretch it in order for it to keep its original length. Pitch shifting is time stretching
Braindead take.
Do some basic research on delay lines.
@@danxnation2159 no it's not. Get yourself an akai sampler and try applying time stretching to a sample - you'll change the speed of the sample but not the pitch.
@@lost_boy yes, but if you play it at a higher pitch it plays faster, in order to pitch the audio up and it stay the same length you have to stretch it
If you timestretch something to twice it's length and then play it an octave up on the keyboard, you end up with audio playing back the same length of time as it started at but it's been pitched shifted up an octave
Rob Playford....the man that never existed.
Proper track, perfect example of “ahead of its time”
That has absolutely nothing to do with time stretching.
That part of Terminator just adds panic and suspense. 👌🏾
Goldie is such an awesome Drum & Bass legend.😃👍
His invented Time Stretching like Ali G became President
Love Goldie, but he's a bit of a tool. If anything, it's Rob Playford who gets the credit for Goldie's entire career.
And even then, it's hardly revolutionary.
He's a massive tool. Ask someone who had to deal with him.
0:38 I do not follow his explanation, it sounds like he is talking about multiple guitar notes simultaneously which would be a chord.
decachord
But he knew who Bricktop was.
not the first record he pretended to make
the way DJs just use mouth noises to describe what they are doing is the best. 1:08
Goldie invented turning a knob
can't mix to save his life
LOL! "Goldie" did nothing. Rob Playford is the man.
nice one :) respect to Rob Playford and Goldie
What show/documentary is this taken from?
how clubbing changed the world...
Then Roni Size came out with a tune called Time Stretch using Time Stretching smh
You got the ideas but you use a ghost producer to do these things for you
Not a ghost producer. An engineer.
Man, the feeling of this music
All i see is him in the movie Snatch saying "a whattonite?" 😂
Is that what he says?? Thank you I always wondered wtf he was on about, I still don't get it 🤣
no the nameless japanese engineers that built all the machines he worked on invented time stretching ..he just fucked with it first.
Goldie крутой конечно , спасибо ему за Timeless
Lol... was being done at least 10 years before someone else did it for him.....
Goldie sitting in front of a painting of Goldie makes Common and his neatly trimmed beard look humble.
What is the tune in background when Goldie is speaking
Terminator... The tune they're talking about.
Amazing how goldie invented music
Name of documentary? 😮
how clubbing changed the world ;-)
Legendary business!! So creative!! It can't be overlooked!!!
come on breh, the amen loop was never timestretched it was just pitched up