Amazing work. Great attention to detail. Just subbed. One friendly note, after 30 mins I really wish there was either different music or no music. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated and will keep that in mind for the future content. Thanks for subscribing too, it really helps us out and motivates us to keep putting in this much work!
@cody_hines thank you for the support we really appreciate it! Also, glad you are enjoying the content we do try to detail every step which takes a lot of time but glad people like yourself are finding value in it! Thanks again for the subscribe!
Yeah this one was the most time consuming project on the van so far for sure. Having never done an audio system like this before I didn’t realize how much effort it was to even do the simple things like running all the audio cables. You definitely end up contorting your body into some weird shapes trying to feed things up behind the dash 😅. Anyways thanks again for the support, we really appreciate it!
Amazing work including CNC manufacturing with the Tormach (I had a 1100 - Series 3 a few years ago and loved it!). What is the application you are using ("body and equipment guide") you mentioned at 22:28 please?. Please continue posting. Your channel will grow without any doubt! Take care.
Wow thank you so much. We really appreciate the kind words!! Yeah the Tormach has been a great tool for prototyping and light production I feel really fortunate to have one! For the BEG this is a PDF from Mercedes that gives general guidelines for upfitters www.mercedes-benz-vans.ca/content/dam/mb-vans/us/upfitter/220523_ARL_Sprinter_907_2022_ENU_fin.pdf Make sure to select the appropriate Model Year! Thanks again.
Thank you! Yes that will be included in our Part 2 of the install! Curious what DSP you are looking at. I think we are going to go with a MiniDSP with Dirac Live! I really like the flexibility of the inputs to output assignment which will help with our MediaMaster integration as well as the auto tuning since I know nothing about manual tuning 😅.
@@moonrakerdesign I was looking at the Sound Control DM-810. From what I could tell the Mini-dsp doesn't have a provision for corrective EQ to account for the head unit. But I do have extensive audio experience in tuning, :) I am also working on designing a box for between the front seats for a 10 inch sub. Based in the east bay, happy to meet up sometime. cheers pf
Hey PF, that’s the other one I was looking at as well. Curious about the MiniDSP not being able to correct for the factory head unit, did you explicitly see this somewhere? Sounds like I need to dig into the details a bit more! Thanks for the guidance and yes always happy to meet up with local Sprinter folks!
@@moonrakerdesign I didn’t see it explicitly stated but i did not see section about it which is stated in the other DSM. I am curious about how to switch between driving mode and camping mode. I have an idea about how but am curious what you have come up with
@@pfaudiozen hey pf, I'm in the same boat as you right now, I have some ideas but nothing pen to paper yet. Lets chat over e-mail about it would love to hear your thoughts here and I can share my plan as well - hello at farrframeworks dot com!
Awesome work brother! Your attention to detail and precision is 2nd to none. Would you happen to know if all sprinter head units would have the rear out available to tap into as you did. I have a 2023 2500 Cargo AWD. By default I only have the front speakers as well. Tapping the front into my amp, getting the rear signal is fader works would be nice. Anyhow, thanks for the great video.
Hey @80spurple thanks for stopping by and the compliments it really means a lot to us!! Yes all sprinters headunits have those outputs for a cargo van if you didn't order EP7 you'll have to tap in with the pins like I did. If you ordered your van with EP7 there an additional dongle under the drivers seat that you can tap into for rear speakers. The only problem when you tap in like I did without the EP7 is you don't have rear fader enabled, it's a SW thing that your local dealer has to enable once you have the rear speaker inputs hooked up. Hope this helps let me know if you have any other questions!
Just a thought!! Have you (I’m sure you have) thought about selling premanufactured speaker adaptors you C&C’d to the public. This requires a whole set of skill set and machinery that would be a huge in investment for the average DIY selfer.
Hey @chunkerbranigen5825 it's a great thought and thanks for taking the time to post this here! I know @DIYVan is making these diyvan.com/collections/sprinter-products/products/pair-of-2019-to-present-sprinter-vs30-cab-door-speaker-adapter-for-6-5-speaker already so not looking to step on their toes. The only thing is their solution is limited to a maximum 2.25" speaker depth. Since I wanted this bigger door speakers (3-1/16" depth) and 3-way component system I had to make these. I have made a few sets as a one off for others looking to install these exact speakers BTW! That is an option if you reach out to me by email hello at farrframeworks dot com. I've also shared the files for a $10.00 donation (takes some time to develop this stuff) if you have access to a router or mill of your own. Thanks again for the feedback, let me know if this helps 🙂
The original speaker wire to the doors isn't great, most normal people probably wouldn't notice the sound difference though. Just make sure the amount of juice you are pumping through isn't limited by the gauge. The crossovers in this case are specific to the focal 3-way speakers to make sure that each one get's the right frequencies not required by the amp.
@@moonrakerdesign Thank you sir Todd! I SPACED..OUT for a second. As the speaker wires come from the amp anyway so yeah, have to run new/quality. Q: Did you have to special tune that amp using the crossovers? or do you merely push the buttons on the amp like in the amp videos?
@@kingofswamis in order to have a real tune you need a DSP inline from head unit to the amplifier. My longer term plan is to add a MiniDSP with DL to have a full tune and full control. It will also allow me to have a Marine headunit in the back of the van to listen to house music while parked of the house battery system. I thought I would be able to get that done sooner but always constrained by the two great variables... time & money 😅
I gotta watch this again, but is it pretty easy to figure out the wires coming out of the head unit? There is an Alpine system in Europe that has a plug-in play but I’m not sure I really want that system. The harness would be nice.
Hey friend. Yeah, it's easy the pin numbers are actually called out int he Mercedes BEG www.mbvans.com/en/upfitter/tech-info/beg page 307 for VS30 vans. If you don't have a cargo van you should already have the wires for the rear speakers too. If not you'll have to add the pins.
How do you control the amp? Or and or when you use your head units equalizer, and put up the + on base/-what does that do? add base to everything like your doors speakers?
The main function of the amp is to take the signal and amplify it, so if you change the signal on your equalizer it will send those signals out. Obviously it will handle sending lower frequencies to the sub but unless you have a crossover to split the signal to component speakers the doors and tweets will also pick those up. I personally think for most people the bad part of the sprinter audio system are the down stream components, simply taking the signals from the head unit and amplifying them to a nice set of speakers has been good enough for me and made the car so much more enjoyable to ride. If you want to get in the weeds then you really need a DSP (Digital Signal Processor) A simply solution would be like a JL FIX-86 or using an amp with a build in DSP. However my long term solution is to add a Mini-DSP with DL - www.minidsp.com/products/car-audio-dsp/cdsp-8x12-dl The added sound quality will be nice, but the major reasons are that I want to run a Marine Deck for the house stereo system so I need to manage a bunch of inputs and then I think I'll actually need to adjust timing between the front and rear speakers since the van is so long. I'm not a audio tuner by any means so have Dirac Live will get me there quicker. Hope this helps.
The reverse editing worked great to get the point across for the removal process. I’ll plug your channel on my van build videos @clarityoffgrid that we’re just getting started on. I’m afraid I haven’t got your machine shop equipment or expertise so compared to yours mine will look like a Jack job but I do have the carpentry skills and tools so will be manufacturing from that. BTW which heater do you have installed? You’re ok I guess having to remove the amp to service the heater?
Hey @mattkramer6512 thanks for stopping by and glad to hear it helped you out and thanks so much for the offer to plug! I'll make sure to sub to your channel and follow along as well! Everyone has their own skills and resources and it's just so great to see people just make the van their own space! I have an Espar D2 under the seat there and I was able to cut back the amp mount far enough that I think I can service it without taking it off, but time will tell when I hit that first service interval. When I do I'll try to remember to come back here and post! Thanks again.
And then, if I’m not gonna do crossovers, how much of that Dash - do I really need to rip apart in order to run speaker wires from the head unit to the amp and from the amp to the door speaks
It's always easier with everything ripped out. But you could easily fish wires from the head unit to the base of the center dash with a small fiberglass pole or something with only removing the headunit if you didn't care how tidy things were back there. There's not enough room really to reach from above to get zip ties and things.
Hi Todd - did you add a separate subwoofer and do something with the center channel? I just disconnected my center channel and added a small sub under the seat and the factory system is halfway bearable! Thinking of upgrading to an Alpine 907 specific speaker system + amp which is only available in Europe.
Hey. I haven’t added the sub yet that’s going in the wall behind the drivers seat. I ended up disconnecting the center speaker because it’s just so bad. The biggest improvement were definitely the woofers in the doors. Added a lot of nicer lows and mids. When you take out the factory speakers you can see why. They are party city quality 🤣
Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment. It's actually not a PITA to get to the heater though. The video angle doesn't do a good job showing the perspective and how much clearance is actually there but with the cut back of the marine board and pushing the amp all the way to the center of the van I have somewhat tight but full access to the heater for service. One of the reasons why I choose this shallower amp. The fact that you still have to take off the passengers seat and everything is more of a PITA in my opinion. So if you are thinking this way you might want to consider and entirely different location for heater mounting. For example in an accessible cabinet somewhere in the rear of the van.
I just got a leftover 2021 144 4X4 same color as yours. I’m a bit behind you in my conversion. I’m in the middle of speaker upgrade now. Having a terrible time snaking fish tape door to the tweeter locations. And can’t get the foam to budge. Any tips? Your videos have been really helpful!
Hey David thanks for reaching out and and congrats on the van! Converting is a lot of work and takes a ton of effort, but it's nice to see things come together and it's super rewarding! For your current issue here it's probably best we chat over email. You can send me a note at hello at farrframeworks dot com with some pictures of where you are trying to go (I assume factory tweeter location) and I can do my best to help you out! Thanks again for stopping by!
@@davidmcbride2235 Awesome so good to hear that!! It's really hard to capture every single detail in these videos so yeah if you ever have any additional questions reach out again and I'll do my best to share my experience! Happy converting!!
It’s made driving and listening to music so enjoyable. I can’t wait for phase II where I add the mini-dsp, sub and rear speakers but just way too busy with other things at the moment.
Hey there, I'm not really sure at this point since I don't have a lot of time to work on the van these days. I'm making slow and steady progress, but can only put in a bout 1/2 day per week due to other things I have going on in life.
@@moonrakerdesign thanks bud . The van looks like it is going to be amazing. Like you we are making a slow process as well but the next couple weeks hopefully will be mostly done
Awesome video! I am upgrading my 20221 VS30 audio right now and you have some really good tips. Looking forward to the next video and hoping that you detail how you are connecting your amp to the factory head unit. I purchased an Alpine R2 A60F which has high level inputs but not sure if this is the best method. Thinking I may add a Fix-86 dsp and feed the amps from there. Curious if you have a better solution or dsp to make the system better. Cheers!
Hey @ese8641 thanks for stopping by and glad the video was helpful even though we are using different HW! Right now I have the speaker level high straight from the head unit to the amp. It actually sounds pretty good like this and way way better than the factory speakers. We can turn it up and it has good sound and clarity. However, you can tell they've modified the signals for the factory speakers especially on certain songs the tweeters get a little out of control. So as you mentioned the next step on the audio system is to put in a DSP. I'm looking at 3 options and we are saving my pennies accordingly. - Option 1: Fix-86 to a TWK-88 - even if I can flatten the signal I still think because of the van is such a big open space I'm going to need the extra tune-ability of the TWK-88 - Option 2: MiniDSP with Dirac Live. I know nothing about tuning so the idea of DL getting me close to where I need to be automatically sounds awesome. This also will allow us to hook up a Media Master in the back of the van to run as our "parked" solution since it has so many configurable ins and outs. - Option 3: I've been seriously considering upgrading to an amp with DSP already built in. They are expensive but it might be a cleaning and more compact solution overall. I've been looking at the AudioControl Products as well as the higher end JL VXI amps. Anyways, I hope this helps. I'm still planning this out long term, but overall the system as is works for us short term while I spend time on some other parts of the van build. So the next video on the audio system might come a bit later!
@@moonrakerdesign Thanks for the quick reply! I'm going to go your route and try with the speaker inputs before I decide on a dsp. My van has an aux battery under the passenger seat to I am installing the amps in a wheel well cabinet I got from Serg Supply. Keep up the great videos loving the content and your channel!
@@davidbare3138 like the whole pillar fiberglassed and wrapped? Not sure about that it was a ton of work and not sure what people would actually pay for it 😅. If people are interested in trying this on their own though I'd be happy to share the CAD file of the pillar mod I made. You'd have to modify it a bit if you plan on using other speakers though.
Truly amazing work.
Thank you. I really appreciate you taking the time to watch and leave this comment 🙏
Absolutely stellar work
Thank you, we really appreciate it!
Amazing work. Great attention to detail. Just subbed. One friendly note, after 30 mins I really wish there was either different music or no music. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated and will keep that in mind for the future content. Thanks for subscribing too, it really helps us out and motivates us to keep putting in this much work!
Been loving your videos! So frikin informative. Subscribe button has been slapped. Hoping you get boosted on the algorithm 🤙
@cody_hines thank you for the support we really appreciate it! Also, glad you are enjoying the content we do try to detail every step which takes a lot of time but glad people like yourself are finding value in it! Thanks again for the subscribe!
Dude, that’s a serious job!
Yeah this one was the most time consuming project on the van so far for sure. Having never done an audio system like this before I didn’t realize how much effort it was to even do the simple things like running all the audio cables. You definitely end up contorting your body into some weird shapes trying to feed things up behind the dash 😅.
Anyways thanks again for the support, we really appreciate it!
Amazing work including CNC manufacturing with the Tormach (I had a 1100 - Series 3 a few years ago and loved it!). What is the application you are using ("body and equipment guide") you mentioned at 22:28 please?. Please continue posting. Your channel will grow without any doubt! Take care.
Wow thank you so much. We really appreciate the kind words!! Yeah the Tormach has been a great tool for prototyping and light production I feel really fortunate to have one! For the BEG this is a PDF from Mercedes that gives general guidelines for upfitters www.mercedes-benz-vans.ca/content/dam/mb-vans/us/upfitter/220523_ARL_Sprinter_907_2022_ENU_fin.pdf
Make sure to select the appropriate Model Year! Thanks again.
Nice detail on the install. I am about to start on my van. But I am adding a dsp into the mix so I can tune and eq the sound stage.
Thank you! Yes that will be included in our Part 2 of the install! Curious what DSP you are looking at. I think we are going to go with a MiniDSP with Dirac Live! I really like the flexibility of the inputs to output assignment which will help with our MediaMaster integration as well as the auto tuning since I know nothing about manual tuning 😅.
@@moonrakerdesign I was looking at the Sound Control DM-810. From what I could tell the Mini-dsp doesn't have a provision for corrective EQ to account for the head unit. But I do have extensive audio experience in tuning, :)
I am also working on designing a box for between the front seats for a 10 inch sub. Based in the east bay, happy to meet up sometime.
cheers
pf
Hey PF, that’s the other one I was looking at as well. Curious about the MiniDSP not being able to correct for the factory head unit, did you explicitly see this somewhere? Sounds like I need to dig into the details a bit more!
Thanks for the guidance and yes always happy to meet up with local Sprinter folks!
@@moonrakerdesign I didn’t see it explicitly stated but i did not see section about it which is stated in the other DSM. I am curious about how to switch between driving mode and camping mode. I have an idea about how but am curious what you have come up with
@@pfaudiozen hey pf, I'm in the same boat as you right now, I have some ideas but nothing pen to paper yet. Lets chat over e-mail about it would love to hear your thoughts here and I can share my plan as well - hello at farrframeworks dot com!
Awesome work brother! Your attention to detail and precision is 2nd to none. Would you happen to know if all sprinter head units would have the rear out available to tap into as you did. I have a 2023 2500 Cargo AWD. By default I only have the front speakers as well. Tapping the front into my amp, getting the rear signal is fader works would be nice. Anyhow, thanks for the great video.
Hey @80spurple thanks for stopping by and the compliments it really means a lot to us!!
Yes all sprinters headunits have those outputs for a cargo van if you didn't order EP7 you'll have to tap in with the pins like I did. If you ordered your van with EP7 there an additional dongle under the drivers seat that you can tap into for rear speakers.
The only problem when you tap in like I did without the EP7 is you don't have rear fader enabled, it's a SW thing that your local dealer has to enable once you have the rear speaker inputs hooked up.
Hope this helps let me know if you have any other questions!
Bro..u are a pro
Hey Luis, wow, thanks a bunch I really appreciate it. Definitely still learning and @CarAudioFabrication was super helpful for this one!
Just a thought!! Have you (I’m sure you have) thought about selling premanufactured speaker adaptors you C&C’d to the public. This requires a whole set of skill set and machinery that would be a huge in investment for the average DIY selfer.
Hey @chunkerbranigen5825 it's a great thought and thanks for taking the time to post this here! I know @DIYVan is making these diyvan.com/collections/sprinter-products/products/pair-of-2019-to-present-sprinter-vs30-cab-door-speaker-adapter-for-6-5-speaker already so not looking to step on their toes. The only thing is their solution is limited to a maximum 2.25" speaker depth. Since I wanted this bigger door speakers (3-1/16" depth) and 3-way component system I had to make these.
I have made a few sets as a one off for others looking to install these exact speakers BTW! That is an option if you reach out to me by email hello at farrframeworks dot com. I've also shared the files for a $10.00 donation (takes some time to develop this stuff) if you have access to a router or mill of your own.
Thanks again for the feedback, let me know if this helps 🙂
Is the original speaker wire to the doors poop?
And then with that amp, I heard you don’t need crossovers? 🤷
The original speaker wire to the doors isn't great, most normal people probably wouldn't notice the sound difference though. Just make sure the amount of juice you are pumping through isn't limited by the gauge. The crossovers in this case are specific to the focal 3-way speakers to make sure that each one get's the right frequencies not required by the amp.
@@moonrakerdesign Thank you sir Todd! I SPACED..OUT for a second. As the speaker wires come from the amp anyway so yeah, have to run new/quality.
Q: Did you have to special tune that amp using the crossovers? or do you merely push the buttons on the amp like in the amp videos?
@@kingofswamis in order to have a real tune you need a DSP inline from head unit to the amplifier. My longer term plan is to add a MiniDSP with DL to have a full tune and full control. It will also allow me to have a Marine headunit in the back of the van to listen to house music while parked of the house battery system. I thought I would be able to get that done sooner but always constrained by the two great variables... time & money 😅
I gotta watch this again, but is it pretty easy to figure out the wires coming out of the head unit? There is an Alpine system in Europe that has a plug-in play but I’m not sure I really want that system. The harness would be nice.
Hey friend. Yeah, it's easy the pin numbers are actually called out int he Mercedes BEG www.mbvans.com/en/upfitter/tech-info/beg page 307 for VS30 vans. If you don't have a cargo van you should already have the wires for the rear speakers too. If not you'll have to add the pins.
How do you control the amp? Or and or when you use your head units equalizer, and put up the + on base/-what does that do? add base to everything like your doors speakers?
The main function of the amp is to take the signal and amplify it, so if you change the signal on your equalizer it will send those signals out. Obviously it will handle sending lower frequencies to the sub but unless you have a crossover to split the signal to component speakers the doors and tweets will also pick those up.
I personally think for most people the bad part of the sprinter audio system are the down stream components, simply taking the signals from the head unit and amplifying them to a nice set of speakers has been good enough for me and made the car so much more enjoyable to ride.
If you want to get in the weeds then you really need a DSP (Digital Signal Processor) A simply solution would be like a JL FIX-86 or using an amp with a build in DSP.
However my long term solution is to add a Mini-DSP with DL - www.minidsp.com/products/car-audio-dsp/cdsp-8x12-dl
The added sound quality will be nice, but the major reasons are that I want to run a Marine Deck for the house stereo system so I need to manage a bunch of inputs and then I think I'll actually need to adjust timing between the front and rear speakers since the van is so long. I'm not a audio tuner by any means so have Dirac Live will get me there quicker.
Hope this helps.
The reverse editing worked great to get the point across for the removal process. I’ll plug your channel on my van build videos @clarityoffgrid that we’re just getting started on. I’m afraid I haven’t got your machine shop equipment or expertise so compared to yours mine will look like a Jack job but I do have the carpentry skills and tools so will be manufacturing from that. BTW which heater do you have installed? You’re ok I guess having to remove the amp to service the heater?
Hey @mattkramer6512 thanks for stopping by and glad to hear it helped you out and thanks so much for the offer to plug! I'll make sure to sub to your channel and follow along as well! Everyone has their own skills and resources and it's just so great to see people just make the van their own space! I have an Espar D2 under the seat there and I was able to cut back the amp mount far enough that I think I can service it without taking it off, but time will tell when I hit that first service interval. When I do I'll try to remember to come back here and post! Thanks again.
And then, if I’m not gonna do crossovers, how much of that Dash - do I really need to rip apart in order to run speaker wires from the head unit to the amp and from the amp to the door speaks
It's always easier with everything ripped out. But you could easily fish wires from the head unit to the base of the center dash with a small fiberglass pole or something with only removing the headunit if you didn't care how tidy things were back there. There's not enough room really to reach from above to get zip ties and things.
Hi Todd - did you add a separate subwoofer and do something with the center channel? I just disconnected my center channel and added a small sub under the seat and the factory system is halfway bearable! Thinking of upgrading to an Alpine 907 specific speaker system + amp which is only available in Europe.
Hey. I haven’t added the sub yet that’s going in the wall behind the drivers seat. I ended up disconnecting the center speaker because it’s just so bad. The biggest improvement were definitely the woofers in the doors. Added a lot of nicer lows and mids. When you take out the factory speakers you can see why. They are party city quality 🤣
Hope you don't have diesel heater issues. That's quite a pita to get to. Especially in the cold.
Thanks for stopping by and taking the time to comment. It's actually not a PITA to get to the heater though. The video angle doesn't do a good job showing the perspective and how much clearance is actually there but with the cut back of the marine board and pushing the amp all the way to the center of the van I have somewhat tight but full access to the heater for service. One of the reasons why I choose this shallower amp.
The fact that you still have to take off the passengers seat and everything is more of a PITA in my opinion. So if you are thinking this way you might want to consider and entirely different location for heater mounting. For example in an accessible cabinet somewhere in the rear of the van.
I just got a leftover 2021 144 4X4 same color as yours. I’m a bit behind you in my conversion. I’m in the middle of speaker upgrade now. Having a terrible time snaking fish tape door to the tweeter locations. And can’t get the foam to budge. Any tips? Your videos have been really helpful!
Hey David thanks for reaching out and and congrats on the van! Converting is a lot of work and takes a ton of effort, but it's nice to see things come together and it's super rewarding!
For your current issue here it's probably best we chat over email. You can send me a note at hello at farrframeworks dot com with some pictures of where you are trying to go (I assume factory tweeter location) and I can do my best to help you out!
Thanks again for stopping by!
@@moonrakerdesign The pics and video you gave me totally helped me out.
@@davidmcbride2235 Awesome so good to hear that!! It's really hard to capture every single detail in these videos so yeah if you ever have any additional questions reach out again and I'll do my best to share my experience! Happy converting!!
Again, great job with detailed video! Any chance on purchasing a pair of the A pillar Mid-range and tweeter speaker adapter mounts you machined up?
Those are 3D printed and glassed in! If you shoot me an email at hello at farrframeworks dot com I can share the .stl files.
I’d love to hear your setup.
It’s made driving and listening to music so enjoyable. I can’t wait for phase II where I add the mini-dsp, sub and rear speakers but just way too busy with other things at the moment.
When is part two coming out would love to see that
Hey there, I'm not really sure at this point since I don't have a lot of time to work on the van these days. I'm making slow and steady progress, but can only put in a bout 1/2 day per week due to other things I have going on in life.
@@moonrakerdesign I know the feeling? Would love to chat about a few things if you have time
@@teamultimateexposurewillia7310 Sure thing send me a note at hello at farrframeworks dot com.
did you have any problems with the engine whining noise when the speakers are off when the engine is running?
Confirmed this morning, no issues. With the engine on and the speakers off there’s no whining sound or any other sound coming from the speakers!
What did you use for your rear speakers
Hi there I'm putting these in www.crutchfield.com/p_091PS165FS/Focal-PS-165-FSE.html?tp=106
@@moonrakerdesign thanks bud . The van looks like it is going to be amazing. Like you we are making a slow process as well but the next couple weeks hopefully will be mostly done
@@moonrakerdesign and just tied into the same amp for the front
@@teamultimateexposurewillia7310 Yes you can see in my Electrical Phase II video how I ran the speaker wires to the back of the van.
Awesome video! I am upgrading my 20221 VS30 audio right now and you have some really good tips. Looking forward to the next video and hoping that you detail how you are connecting your amp to the factory head unit. I purchased an Alpine R2 A60F which has high level inputs but not sure if this is the best method. Thinking I may add a Fix-86 dsp and feed the amps from there. Curious if you have a better solution or dsp to make the system better. Cheers!
Hey @ese8641 thanks for stopping by and glad the video was helpful even though we are using different HW! Right now I have the speaker level high straight from the head unit to the amp. It actually sounds pretty good like this and way way better than the factory speakers. We can turn it up and it has good sound and clarity. However, you can tell they've modified the signals for the factory speakers especially on certain songs the tweeters get a little out of control. So as you mentioned the next step on the audio system is to put in a DSP.
I'm looking at 3 options and we are saving my pennies accordingly.
- Option 1: Fix-86 to a TWK-88 - even if I can flatten the signal I still think because of the van is such a big open space I'm going to need the extra tune-ability of the TWK-88
- Option 2: MiniDSP with Dirac Live. I know nothing about tuning so the idea of DL getting me close to where I need to be automatically sounds awesome. This also will allow us to hook up a Media Master in the back of the van to run as our "parked" solution since it has so many configurable ins and outs.
- Option 3: I've been seriously considering upgrading to an amp with DSP already built in. They are expensive but it might be a cleaning and more compact solution overall. I've been looking at the AudioControl Products as well as the higher end JL VXI amps.
Anyways, I hope this helps. I'm still planning this out long term, but overall the system as is works for us short term while I spend time on some other parts of the van build. So the next video on the audio system might come a bit later!
@@moonrakerdesign Thanks for the quick reply! I'm going to go your route and try with the speaker inputs before I decide on a dsp. My van has an aux battery under the passenger seat to I am installing the amps in a wheel well cabinet I got from Serg Supply. Keep up the great videos loving the content and your channel!
@@ese8641 Awesome, I would love to hear how everything goes!! Thanks again we really appreciate it.
When the next vid?
Hey thanks for stopping by, the response to ese8641 above I think sums up the answer to this best! Let me know if you have any other questions!
@moonrakerdesign Your build videos are Awesome. Are planning on making any of your additions like A speakers for sale?
@@davidbare3138 like the whole pillar fiberglassed and wrapped? Not sure about that it was a ton of work and not sure what people would actually pay for it 😅. If people are interested in trying this on their own though I'd be happy to share the CAD file of the pillar mod I made. You'd have to modify it a bit if you plan on using other speakers though.
@moonrakerdesign looks rad and I am sure sounds excellent. Looking forward to see you did for a sub and back half of the van.
@@moonrakerdesign Great work, i´m doing the same now. Would you please share the CAD file? Also for the distance Ring in the door? Wrote you a mail?
Shout out to ben svastorm 👊🫡
The true hero in this story ✨