This game is like when McDolanlds serves you a disgusting looking Big Mac but you eat it anyway because your standards were already so low as to go to McDonalds, and it tastes… good? Somehow? Like, yeah, you’re eating a Big Mac and that’s disgusting, and it LOOKED disgusting, no wonder other people refused to eat it. But in a strange way, I’m glad my standards were lower, because it tastes really good!
@@FTChomp9980Which is such a damn shame because if this franchise sells SO well with the low quality they give us imagine if they actually put time into polishing the games.
@@rootbeer543won’t be much of a bump, if anything. They might even sell worse. Pokémon sells based on brand and people hungering for a fix. Not the actual games quality themselves.
@@aintthatapotofeffluck8926I think, as it is now, you’re right. But to say that making a better game in combination with a strong brand wouldn’t do much is fixing your cynicism in the wrong place. I believe if they made a Zelda-level, quality Pokémon video game, it would sell GANGBUSTERS. Would likely break records.
Cannot believe the best part of Scarlet/Violet's "story" (Nemona, Penny, and Arven) were apparently ditched completely for the DLC so they could continue cramming more probably one-note anime trope characters at us.
Idk, I found it pretty funny in hindsight. PC is pokemon champion, Penny and Nemona found out the power of friendship. Arven lost his parent twice in an hour, and is just told to cheer up and walk into the sunset. It's such a tragic ending it loops right around to being funny. Not sure I want that expanded upon, even if poor Arven deserves it.
...Remember when they said they were TOTALLY going to fix the performance issues in this game because they take our feedback "very seriously" or whatever? lol
Pokemon S and V is the first Pokémon game I’ve ever played…and probably the last. It’s so bad. Like, soooo bad. Why even make a game if you’re going to make it literal garbage, like, what’s the point?
Sword and Shield are great games. But they are linear and have too much handholding. Hop isn't a rival to me. A rival should be one that rarely helps you and doesn't kiss your but. Two generations in a row those were our "rivals" : Hau and Hop. There was no linear order to Scarlet and Violet, it was ALL ABOUT exploration. The storylines dealt with real consequences. The storylines of Scarlet and Violet felt fleshed out. Not like the other games. Only Sword and Shield and Legends Arceus seemed to have some resolution to their storylines. The others made us think that was so but not really. You became champion, but were the evil teams disbanded or their leaders thrown in prison? Nope.
@@battlep0t not really a great excuse. They both look generations behind other Nintendo switch games but there is no excuse for how bad the open world runs in Scarlett and violet. Especially when they have more money than almost any other game devolver and still can’t do as a good of a job as some indie developers. Even just look how much better dragon quest monsters looks and runs. It’s still not perfect but so so so much better than SV.
I'd pick scarlet and violet over it given that it has a shred of ambition, but it's still pretty sad that the biggest franchise on the planet looks like this.
It’s much better than part one. The item printer alone is amazing, and the story wrapped up quite well in my opinion so I would say yes, despite all the performance faults, it’s worth it. The overall story of this generation is better than any Pokémon story we have had in years in my opinion and unlike the previous generation where the DLC contributed nothing to the main story, this was quite well done. I can only imagine, however how much better these games could have been as a completed package if they had actually done anything in regards to fixing the performance of the games themselves that they once promised they would, but of course, that was all PR .
In terms of story quality, I feel that only applies to the base game and Teal Mask. It feels like a lot of basic questions about Area Zero and even Terapogos itself went unanswered in Indigo Disk, and the payoff of the Kieran arc just didn’t feel all that satisfying. Also, for an expansion with Terapogos as the hyped-up face, the poor little turtle friend felt kind of like an afterthought.
I think this is gonna be the last Pokémon game I buy. I still love Pokémon in general. But I’m extremely on the fence of any future games by gamefreak. Unless there’s an insane quality improvement in gen 10, I’m just gonna go watch playthroughs of it.
Ditto to that. I'll be watching and reading reviews with a critical eye before I ever buy another Pokémon title again, despite the nostalgia & generalized love of the franchise.
I must admit that originally I wasn´t going to buy this DLC (when Teal Mask came out I did the watching a playthrough instead of playing myself) but the most recent Indigo Disk trailer made me cave a week before it came out :,( I will say Indigo Disk has been pretty fun and the battles being doubles adds a much needed difficulty spike to the game since now your pokemon are forced to stay in battle as opposed to being able to swap them out before the opponent takes out their next mon in single battles. I think the story could´ve been better though, at least I wish they gave more of a resolution to the siblings´ relationship or show that Carmine is going to make more of an effort to stop being an abusive jerk to her brother. But hey, supposedly they have yet to release one more epilogue so...
Tbh i feel like it’ll be the last Pokémon generation they ever put out. Gamefreak’s most likely gonna fizzle out completely due to not caring and not having enough resources to make games past alpha. **I still had a lot of fun with SV tho :)**
The lack of a battle tower facility really made this dlc a let down for me. Also I thought we were gonna spend waaaay more time exploring a new part of area zero.
It seemed really, really promising at first, but they definitely dropped the ball at the last moment with the story. Absolutely bizarre that Kieran's drastic character change was in no way related to the final pokemon in the dex, and they kind of just raised even more questions than answers when it came to Area Zero's mysteries, the paradox pokemon and terastalisation.
well.. at least its probably the pokemon games with best story, like a well writen narrative and not just some events with cartboard characters like the old generations.
@ObrigadaJim if anyone cares about the story, I'd say watch videos on RUclips. I wouldn't spend money on this game or its dlc in it's current state just for the story
the story of black and white is a mess, they had a great starting point, a polical discussion involving animal rights, and yet at the end it goes again like always, the big bad guy that is just is evil for the sake of being evil, they dont even follow the freedom politics talk, its just dropped and all the characters are like i said, cartboard blank slates for text, N does have some develmopment yes and its cool but still small and nothing compared to the way they develope some charcters with layers in the gen 9 games, like the professor and specially kieran and carmine. @@tyleredge5349
Pokémon just isn’t what it used to be anymore. I don’t even get excited for DLCs anymore. I don’t read stories EVER & aside from events, what’s the point of playing. You get on, catch event Pokémon or enter the gift code, & get off. I hate repetition in a game & Pokémon was the ONLY exception I made for that. DRY repetition though is agony 🥱😴 What happened to the days of SouSilver & Emerald where there was SO much to do aside from events. Gold & Silver, Red & Blue, Safari Zones, PLANTING FUCKING BERRIES ALL over the map my God 😩 Battle Frontier. THOSE were the golden days of Pokémon, LONGGGG removed. Legends Arceus was a breath of fresh air though I must admit.
Well the man who created and pushed the Nintendo DS to its limits has been dead for awhile now. If he was still alive he would be pushing the games to the limits and prob have given us better quality games. May he rest in peace.
I still often wonder if DLC is better than a 3rd version. The latter, you have to wait but improvements to QOL and content are made, while the former is picking it up anytime but you're stuck with the same old game despite the small extra cost of new content compared to buying it again
Back then ppl also waited for the 3rd version or just sold the old game to buy the new one so it was even less then now. I live in germany and the game plus dlc is over 100 euro so its like buying 2 switch games. In th3 end the 3rd version was a better deal no matter how much ppl like to pretend or ignore the truth.
What if Pokemon only had one version per-Gen? With multiple save files and all mons are easily catchable. And had all good improvements and features of third versions, remakes, and DLCs?
There's a third epilogue dlc in the game locked behind a keyitem that hasn't been released yet, I watched a playthrough of it (they modded the keyitem in), it looked really good. 😮
Yeah I can look past most of my issues with this game and still have fun playing it… but the world itself is definitely my biggest issue and is what ruins my enjoyment more than anything else. Everything from the poor world design, to the boring, extremely generic looking locations and biomes, to of course just how ugly and unappealing to look at most of the world is. The graphics are lacking, but it’s also just such bad and uninspired design, it truly amazes me it made it out of development with the world being so ugly. The Pokémon look so good too, so it’s such a shame the world is a big empty shell. Nothing takes me out of the game more than how uninterested I am with looking at and exploring the map. 3D Pokémon worlds had better designs all the way back on the N64, and quite a few of the GameCube games not only had better world designs, they also just straight up looked better despite being on vastly inferior hardware. Making a world that looks good and people actually want to explore and interact with should be at the top of the priority list for their next game, but I doubt it will be.
I just saw that there is going to be an epilogue released early January (I think the 11th?). Maybe that will help wrap the story up some. I know this game's performance is pretty terrible, but I still really like it. Admittedly, a game's performance doesn't matter as much to me (as long as it isn't constantly crashing, which hasn't been my experience). I think the story is great and I like the characters (which, other than Legends, I don't really even remember the characters). Hopefully they keep this level of storytelling and the development isn't as rushed on the next game (and they team up with the Zelda folks).
I still think it's crazy that this game manages to nearly overheat my switch. When nearly every other game that should be more demanding... narely a peep. This game turns my switch into a jet engine on startup. Like. Why. Also. I didn't like the game for many reasons like world design, graphic quality, its empty towns, and npcs that just... walk in circles with a line of text above them. And the dlc made almost all of it way more apparent when going around. It sucks cuz it's my first actual pokemon game (I'm not playing the others. Fight me). And I really like the ideas they were trying to implement with pokemon interactions. But it was never fully realized or fleshed out since they rushed it into the ground. I'll just be watching until they realize that their "advertisement" actually matters a lot more.
I'm glad to see a lot of people enjoying the gameplay parts of it, but the story is way too disappointing for me to consider picking it up. Not only are a lot of plot points built up from the base game such as whoever attacked to Arvin week's dog, an extended answer into the truth of Paradox Pokemon, the relationship between Heath, Terapagos, and Professor Sada/Turo, just not mentioned, but things like Carmine and Kieran's dynamic, and the return of the Area Zero trio (Nemona, Penny, Arvin) weren't done to their greatest potential and that kinda sucks, for me at least.
@@TheFunctioningInsomniacAnd that's the thing, which one wasn't specified, and that proceeded to lead to months of speculation on what new Pokemon it could've been, from another legendary paradox Mon like Roaring Moon or a new one entirely like Terapagos. The point is that Arvin's story was deliberately unfinished, which led people expecting it along with the other two rivals (Penny and Nemona) to be expanded upon or at least have some kind of role given how much people liked them in the base game.
Arven himself explained how Masbosstiff got hurt when first diving into Area Zero. Arven along with both Penny & Nemona get extra closure in their arcs through the multiple conversation mini academy stories for them that is unlocked after beating the Ace Academy Tournament. If you be ng Terapigis to the lake in Kitakami you extra story context. Not to mention the journal entries in the Area Zero Stations and the new ones from the new DLC related parts also give much more context. Briar is literally Heath's descendant and her actions are reflection based on how he was treated in the past. Team Star gets even more story after beating the DLC story in Paldea Academy. It's all there and plus another epilogue story that is not "officially" released yet until later in the year, that gives the main characters for both storylines a bit more focus.
Im little bit stuck, beccause I dont know where to go next on Area Zero! No questionmark or anything, so for me its hard to know what to do next.. Any tips? :)
And there is no battle tower, in a DLC that's supposedly centered around battles. I mean, Pokemon was never a really great series (with the exception of the 5th gen, which i really liked), but now that they removed a staple of the franchise, that existed since crystal, theres not really much to do besides shiny hunting and raids. Like there is no challenge at all and when you dont get challenged, the whole experience becomes boring. Why would i care about strong pokemons, when the game is so easy that i can beat it with my starter and a backup pokemon? The battle tower was the only reason for a non competitive player to get deeper into the game systems and try out pokemon. Now its just a boring slog, that doesnt motivate me anymore to go through, because at the end theres no 'reward" that actually tests my skills.
My biggest problem with Pokemon is how short the games are. If I've not deliberately taking my time, I can clear the games in one day, maybe two depending on how much I play. And that isn't very fun. I'd like them to last a bit longer.
Honestly I feel like they could've done more with the DLC. With that said there are some promising mechanics introduced here such as the syncing machine. I just the new area in Area Zero were bigger and we had to explore more with more new Paradox Pokémon to battle. My biggest problem is with Pecharunt. I thought it was in the game already but it's locked away. It took me hours before I found out.
The worst part: fans have told Gamefreak with their wallets that putting out buggy, unfinished Pokemon games is perfectly fine. Now the next gen games will be just as bad or worse.
@@lordmolag45000 Breathe buddy lol Unlike you I'm not telling anyone what to do, just stating my opinion. It's funny how you guys get furious at someone simply pointing out the truth but when Gamefreak craps out objectively bad games you rush to your keyboards to defend the company that duped you.
I loved the blueberry part of the DLC but didn't like the Aero Zero part. The E4 and the Unova References as someone who started with BW were awesome! HOWEVER.... Kieran had a much more realistic defeat and chance at redemption in blueberry before he became a plot piece to set off Terapagos. When you could have used Briar for that! She should have been the bad guy! She has such a bizarre theme compared to the rest of the other characters! Now she is just a nothing character... lmao.
Violet is the only pokemon game that I didnt finish, not sure if I aged or this game just doesn't click with me. I don't even bothered to get the expansion
I'll stick with my Pokémon mmo.. They should have never took away seeing random people online like in wild area in sw/sh that killed it for me.. It's 2024 not 2005! lmao
Yeah the second I saw the background glitching when this video started, I knew I made the right call I not getting this DLC. It would be so easy for them to fix this game but they just don’t want to
Even two versions. Dont make it two games anymore. They gotta go the Arceus direction with mainline games and pace it like Zelda games. I mean seriously, why cant Game Freak take a page off Zelda? Just take your time and put a lot of effort into the development, and it’ll pay off for everyone.
Arceus was the most fun I've had in ages playing Pokemon despite the kind of lackluster environments. Just one complete game, no versions, no paid DLC, interesting story and enough gameplay to feel satisfied. I wish Pokemon went in this direction but it's not as lucrative for them so they probably won't.
SV+DLC felt like the end for me with the games... I love the Pokemon ip but I just hate how the games are treated in terms of quality... I can forgive PLA cause it was something new, a spinoff that was quite engaging and felt a lot different yet something the franchise really needed imo. this is the main line game and should be treated with at least a bit more respect imo. it feels a lot buggier and feels like I am playing something worse than what a ps2 could output in terms of visuals and frame rate. idk how the world's largest grossing IP can't bring up a better performing product than this one to introduce their new Pokemon that will be the marketing for everything new in terms of merch and media. the overall main story was ok for a Pokémon story but I really hated Kieran, the kid's anxiety gave me a headache. even if the new quests reward me unobtainable legendaries from earlier games, I cant help myself to go through this game anymore. I was disappointed by all this tbh.
I'm gonna' go out of the way and be the weird one in the middle: No I don't think Scarlet and Violet are the best games in the series if you just give them the chance. But no I don't think it's a dumpster fire. It's a fire. And there's a dumpster right next to it. But the dumpster itself isn't on fire. Played since Gen 1, played nearly every Pokemon game (skipped a few Mystery Dungeons and Rangers). Fave Gens were 1 and 6. Fave Pokemon is and always has been Hitmonchan. Don't have any hate towards any of the new pokemon designs. Don't got a problem that they keep mixing up the formula - so long as, one day, they bring all of these mixes together into one cohesive game (here's hoping it's in Gen X). Now that we got all that out of the way... If you have Scarlet and Violet: The Indigo DLC is worth it. If you don't: Then it's not. Simple, isn't it? If you care about filling out your pokedex, especially for the following generations: The DLC is very worth it. If you care about building your teams quickly for competitive or casual tournaments, including for following generations: The DLC is very worth it. If you care about story......... I mean....... it's certainly not the worst portrayed story of Pokemon. One can still argue that Sword and Shield was the worst. It depends on your taste. Is the DLC worth it if you've been avoiding Scarlet & Violet all this time? Only if you care about completing pokedexes and prepping pokemon for non-story battles. Why so? Because Scarlet and Violet are built in a way to speedrun catching, leveling, and prepping teams (held items, evs & ivs, moves, etc). And the DLC is much moreso. You can build dozens of teams in a single day, get them to the levels and stats you need them to be, equip them with the right items, and have them ready for any tournament/match you're gearing up for. If you want to casual battle your friends... play Showdown. But if you want to casual battle your friends within more official settings and more solid gameplay-feel, get this game along with its DLC. Also, the amount of pokemon you can catch in this game + DLC is insanely high. You want every legendary for your pokedex? You want every starter? You want those pesky pokemon they decided not to bring over from previous gens (except for alolan meowth and raichu for some reason)...? Get this game and its DLC. It's future-proof. Why not just wait until the next gen to have the same thing + a better experience? Because Pokemon ISN'T KNOWN for bringing its best features into future generations... Pokemon World Tournament, anyone? For all we know, the next Pokemon game can be far more traditional in order to meet the expectations of the TENTH INSTALLMENT OF A LONG RUNNING SERIES... which sounds like an awesome thing... until you consider the fact that traditional means banging your head against eggs over and over and over again just to build a team that you love. Traditional means taking an eternity to build any team for battle. Traditional means sawing your head off in order to complete a pokedex. Traditional = More fun, but far more inconvenient. Not saying that Convenience > Fun... But I am saying that Convenience = Less Headaches. You want less headaches for Gen X? Then it's best to invest in Scarlet and Violet + DLC while the iron's still hot, rather than having to beg people during Gen X to go back to S/V to help you gather Pokemon, mochi, and BP... because frankly, IF Gen X is better than Gen IX: NO ONE WILL WANT TO GO BACK TO GEN IX. If you think dropping down $90 for the sake of convenience is stupid......... wait until you grow up and realize you have a very limited amount of time to do anything. $90 to get rid of hundreds of hours of headaches is actually a very good deal. And if you think that Pokemon's nickle and diming people for how "Pokemon should already be"... No. Ew, no. Pokemon SHOULDN'T be this easy to raise up teams. It's the reason why people think the newer Gens, since Gen 6, have been "too easy". Frankly, if we had Traditional mechanics in Gen 6-forward... if we had Arceus mechanics in Gen 6-forward: We'd genuinely believe that Leon is indeed the strongest champion ever. We wouldn't think Geeta was "Gawd Awful" (maybe just Awful). We wouldn't think that the journeys were lackluster in their challenges. Pokemon SHOULDN'T BE THIS EASY. However... it being easy also saves us a lot of headaches... especially for people like myself, who run casual tournaments on a bi-monthly basis. The tournaments I used to run in previous Gens used to be SEASONAL, just to ensure everyone had time to legit-build their teams. Kids without a job would just kind of sit for months, twiddling their thumbs, agonizing for the next tournament because they got done in a single week. While the adults would feel rushed to breed the best teams just so that their time isn't wasted when the tournament starts. With this game + its DLC... everyone can have their team done BY THE END OF THE DAY. So if you want convenience, drop $90 for this game with its DLC. If convenience isn't your forte, or if you're willing to risk to see if they'll bring this level of convenience into Gen X (I do highly doubt that they'll bring the unique Poke Balls gacha machine into it... which is honestly really awesome and I'll miss it dearly), then don't waste your money. Because its story isn't compelling enough to sell it. And if you're here complaining about graphics + performance... calling it "ugly"... I mean.... sure? But Pokemon, outside of Gen 4 and 5 (and the spin-off games), has never looked amazing. If you want a great-looking game... I think it's time for your to move on. Pokemon looks great when it looks great, but you can't bank on it to look great, especially with the current infrastructure of the Pokemon Company + Game Freak + Creatures. The artists and programmers can work their butt off, but let's be frank: Unless the Pokemon Company hires professionals from (outside) major companies, they do NOT have enough time or manpower to make the pokemon game of our dreams. Arceus only worked because they gave the team complete freedom and a loose deadline. You can't expect the mainline pokemon games to ever get that sort of treatment (and btw, Pokemon Company only considers Arceus a mainline pokemon because it sold so well... but let's face it, it's basically a Emerald, Crystal, BW2, OmegaAlpha, SM2... aka: the in-between game a part of the studio creates while the main team works their butt off for the next mainline entry). 5 years IS NOT enough time to build a 3D pokemon game with their current team size. AT LEAST SEVEN YEARS is required now. If you push for the Pokemon Company to change their deadlines from 5 years into 7 or 8 years: THEN you can expect amazing graphics. But as it is... only expect to be disappointed. Not trying to excuse the poor performance of the latest entry. But saying that it's seriously not a factor for people who play it. If it's a factor for you, again: Please move onto better pastures. There's a lot of pokemon-esque games out there now with amazing graphics. Don't die on this hill, man. It's not worth it. The whole purpose of my rant? I skipped out on the Sword & Shield DLC because I didn't particularly enjoy Sword & Shield (I loved it at the beginning... and then I realized how shallow it was and grew to despise it). And I felt confident in my decision to skip out on it due to everyone's clamoring of what they added to the DLC. They were just shouting on and on about catching Legendaries, and Kubfu, and going into those ultra Raids... which... uh... I HATED THE RAIDS IN SW&SH. I have friends to play with, and those Raids caused serious pains in our relationships. I can't stand them. At least in Scarlet & Violet (their Raids are awful too), you're GUARANTEED TO CAPTURE a beaten Raid pokemon. Still horrendous of an experience, but not as infuriating/disheartening. Plus, I'm not really into Legendaries. So... I thought I made the right decision. But, years later, when I looked into what was in the DLC, there were a TON OF OTHER FEATURES I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT BECAUSE NO ONE CARED TO TALK ABOUT THEM. THOSE features I was GENUINELY interested in, not all the crap about Raids. I regretted it after that, but I wasn't exactly in the mood to buy it and beg people to play with me again. Point is... If there's something in the DLC you REALLY like the sound of? The DLC is worth it. There's seriously no guarantee these features will reappear in the next Pokemon game. If you've researched the DLC thoroughly (rather than just listen to other people ramble) and you found there's nothing there for you? Ignore it and move on. Whichever you do, don't brag about Scarlet & Violet (it seriously isn't perfect), nor trash and hate on it (it seriously isn't a dumpster fire... just a fire with a dumpster). Just, you know... live your life, you know? This game isn't worth your worship or your rage.
None of these people even like pokemon games, and none of them understand how games are made. Yes it runs and looks like shit at times, but its a turn based game so doesnt matter that in terms of gameplay. These same people (not actuially fans of pokemon) moaned for years about how pokemon games hadnt evolved and had the same formula as the original gen 1 games and were not open world rpg games yet (even considering they were on the ds lmao) and how they are bad games because of it. When the pushed the hardware and made that game people always said they wanted those same people moan about how the perfoamnce is bad (im sure most of them have never even played on a switch before as SV isnt even that much worse than most other switch games). Hating pokemon games is a circle jerk and none of what these people say are valid criticisms (even alex in this video reviewing this dlc said he hadn't even actually properly played the game and has been one of the loudest people shitting on SV and getting other people who havent played it too also lmao). Honestly I just think these people are idiots that just parrot whatever the see everyone else saying online.
I think its very fair scarlet and violet get criticized for ongoing performance issues, and the storyline is half way there, but its also a kids game so I haven't ever really expected much in that regard. It might be a connected chapter and considered differently when we get other games. They didn't address anything tied to its potential impact on competitive Pokemon which I would like included in a review. The double battles on offer are sneakily well designed. Hoping the effort they put in to make attacks and movement more realistic just becomes the baseline for the next games.
@@Philbyyyy Agreed. Kids games should be fun, pretty, and have a good story. It's what they want, it's what I want, it's what you want. And it's okay to expect things to feel finished.
I liked the double battles, they definitely were a fun challenge compared to me fisning the base game way too easy But its definitely a weak story. Teal Mask had the best overall plot for me, and the writing made me care about Ogerkon and Koraidon alot. Terapagos... i coupdnt care less about. It only shows up at the very end and barely did anything, compared to the other 2 mons who got to be actual characters (also that Ogerpon battle was so damn good)
I never finished scarlet and violet either. After getting to area zero, the glitches and constant flashes started to give me a headache. I was never fully on board with the game anyway. It is a step backwards from Arceus. That game changed the pokemon games in so many good ways and yet they went backwards with scarlet and violet. The next pokemon game needs to be so so much better after the disappointment that is scarlet and violet.
Sword and Shield was a beautiful masterpiece. I hate the visual issues in this game. We could have waited longer. A game that’s major draw is the open world shouldn’t have this much open issues.
Was so disappointed with this one. The main game and the first dlc set up a lot of cool ideas but almost none of them come through in the end. Wasted potential, just as always since Pokémon X and Y. Oh yeah, and the game STILL runs horribly.
Did they fix this game? Is it still falling apart? Edit: Okay watched the review. Looks like it is still shit show. I am playing Cyberpunk 2077 these days and it is blowing me away. Really wished gamefreak to do that kind of come back.
so the first pokemon game i ever played was crystal version back when it was new and i have to say scarlet/violet are my favorite games in the franchise so far. it would be arceus if battling was a bit more heavy.
I really enjoyed Scarlet and Violet but the frame drops and shoddy graphics/glitches really have me on the fence about buying the DLC. I can't play the game for more than an hour or two without getting really nauseous and motion sick, something no game has done to me outside of Virtual Reality titles.
There’s one part of the Savannah biome near the edge with the mud pools that consistently freezes my game 😅 I’ve defended these games so far but god it’s rough…
@@derekosgood3230 Security Breach got a bug patch not long after its release. I don't know where you got this idea that games won't be fixed after their story n' all is done...
I don't get how people are happily playing this game, I really want to finish it because I love pokemon but man the performance is just utter shit, it's really pathetic how they fucked up the game this badly. As for story I've never really been one to follow them because they're so over the top cringe and I'm not here for read test, put voice acting in the games already.
3 weeks later but if you just crave pokemon gameplay and can look past the terrible performance, its worth it. I enjoyed the game overall but it has a lot of issues
The fact area zero got no real expansion downward besides a linear single route cave was tragic. What a waste of the games most mysterious and atmospheric settings… It felt real unlike the rest of the game and its at most 2 hours long and at the very end 😢
Tbh I had higher hopes for Indigo Disc. Story felt short and underwhelming. I also felt shortchanged with the home update. My poor Roserade and others are just wasting away in the box.
All I wanted to know was “did you need to finish the main game to access the dlc?” I didn’t think you were going to answer… but you got me at the end. Great vid! Like and subscribed
The story in the first DLC is the first time I've actually had a pokemon on my team just because of how much I fell in love with them(Ogrepon) and in general the story we've had is more than we've ever had in pokemon history. I just bought a 3ds and replayed black and black 2 and the story while not terrible has not held up as well and was pretty edgy if you aren't a 10-14 year old. The models again have been amazing especially for a lot of the new pokemon they brought in. Honestly while flawed games especially with their performance, this game with the dlc is top 3 for me all time next to platinum, legends arceus and oras. If this game had decent performance I think for most people it'd be top 5 all time with the dlc. That being said the DLC should've been 15-20 dollars at most not 35.
Too greedy to give there developers time or recources. Also making a new game/dlc every year that sells itself like nothing else while also having in comparison low production costs is something every company dreams of. I you want change don't buy the games.
the graphics remind me of when black and white came out. it had such a good story and was a good game but the ds did not have the capability to produce the graphics they were aiming for. had it come out on the 3ds the performance would have been so much better.
BW worked with what it had rather well and pushed the limits of the DS (the pixel art was beautiful imo and the 2.5D was exciting for the time), however Scarlet and Violet definitely just feel unoptimized, since other games like Tears of the Kingdom are on the same system and manage to look & run better. I wish I could say it was Scarlet and Violet being too detailed for the console but it definitely doesn't seem that way. Having time to bake really makes a night and day difference.
I really did enjoy Pokemon Violet, spend 130 hours in the game, just got the DLC expansions "Have not been playing the DLC yet" but overall i did enjoy it alot, i havent played a pokemon game since the gameboy advance days, i did how ever enjoy the dragon quest the dark prince alot more i got to say.
Man, I watched this thinking that maybe the time it's been out and the content that's been added means that it was compelling now, but man this still looks so bad. I just hope that the next mainline entry emphasizes polish more, but we've been burnt three times in the switch generation, I'm not optimistic.
How? Its a turn based game bro. Apart from being a bit uneasy on the eyes at times its completely playable. If it was an fps or action game (apex or gta on switch for example) I would agree. People always moaned about how the game hasn't evolved and when they push the hardware they have to the limit those same people cry about it. I think what that starfield dev game out and said recently is very evident in the case of SV (and Pokémon in general). Pokémon isn't the only game on switch with terrible performance and as someone who mostly plays at 144hz on PC, SV's 20fps isn't that much worse than 30fps lmao. Every big game runs like shit on the switch, its a 10 year old entry level tablet. Your smartphone is 5x more powerful.
@@jamescelliers3195 the game stutters, lags, bugs out, crashes... It's just unacceptable for an entry in a hugely profitable franchise to be this bad performance-wise. Not to mention the fact that open world exploration is a huge focus of this particular game, which is immensely hindered by endless technical issues
I've so far resisted buying the DLC because I decided that, while I did have fun playing the game (and still connect online for the 7* raids when I remember), and probably would have fun with the DLC as well, I just can't knowingly pay for content in a game that runs so poorly. I would've accepted performance updates alongside the release of the DLC (better late than never), but even that didn't happen. It's a real shame. I'll not only be skipping the DLC but I'm also going to wait and see some reviews before I decide whether or not to buy the next generation when it releases.
i loved playing through the base game when it came out it was a lot of fun for me but the dlc look rushed and crammed in there to get all the pokemon like u said it feels really bad dlc look really bad
@@tlst94Dlc and third versión disappearing wouldnt be a Bad idea. But remakes? A lot of People didnt have the chance to play the original game (like me Witherspoon 3rd gen) and really enjoyed the remake
the main story and game are so boring that i couldnt even finish it. the poor performance of the game makes it worse. Im real hesitant to buy a $35 dlc
I liked the DLC so far. Could have been worse or better. These tons of graphic issues but as an old gamer since NES im used to this. Not really acceptable for 2023 but still playable. Teal mask story was boring af, but the second part of the DLC is way better and funnier. With lot of end game content. But imo, they should keep their game the old fashioned way. Cause they are really bad at making 3d games, yes the hardware isn’t powerfull but they manage to do games like Mario Odyssey which is run really well, so it can be made right.
EXACTLY! The sole reason for Pokémon to have moved to 3D was because it was popular and got them more money. If they returned to 2D, it could maybe earn them even more money, because 3D has not been very good recently...
The fact that this game chose to remove Trainer, Gym and Elite Four Rematches, add mid DLC, and not fix any of its framerate issues… and the fact that I still go back to Pokemon Crystal after putting it down, means that this game has earned its C+ grade at best. Lots of potential, but so much disappointment. I might be done buying Pokemon games… didn’t even get this one at full price. The only thing that would pull me back in is if they make a Gen 2 remake and do it properly.
Because GameFreak hates building on anything they have to put effort into. I'd go a step further and say that ORAS was their peak. Even without the Battle Frontier, the Pokemon formula was perfected here. It was all downhill from there.
i dunno, maybe it's just me... there's this certain place in the terarium where my game slows/freezes, the area where you find Blitzle and Zebstrika... i'm actually surprised that aside from that, the game runs better.
I got into Scarlet & Violet a bit late and Put in A lot of Hours into Shiny Hunting and the Competitive Scene. When The first DLC Launched I knew right away, But I only just now realized that the Second Dropped. I don’t really play anymore but i’am glad The Indigo Disc Turned out as well as it did!
I'll only play this game once a Switch 2 comes out, hopefully the backwards compatibility has a performance boost. Shouldn't have to seeing as TOTK runs fine but the Pokemon company cares more about profits then quality.
Bro why is everyone hating on the lag… like just enjoy the game for what it is and so what if it’s laggy? You can still have fun! But the only thing I don’t like is how hard it is to get charmander!
This game is like when McDolanlds serves you a disgusting looking Big Mac but you eat it anyway because your standards were already so low as to go to McDonalds, and it tastes… good? Somehow? Like, yeah, you’re eating a Big Mac and that’s disgusting, and it LOOKED disgusting, no wonder other people refused to eat it. But in a strange way, I’m glad my standards were lower, because it tastes really good!
That is accurate since Modern Pokemon is considered the Fast Food of videogames getting hald baked meals instead of restaurant quality.
@@FTChomp9980Which is such a damn shame because if this franchise sells SO well with the low quality they give us imagine if they actually put time into polishing the games.
@RootBear sad thing is they won't I play other Monster Taming games since they outdo anything GameFreak would do bare minimum for.
@@rootbeer543won’t be much of a bump, if anything. They might even sell worse.
Pokémon sells based on brand and people hungering for a fix.
Not the actual games quality themselves.
@@aintthatapotofeffluck8926I think, as it is now, you’re right. But to say that making a better game in combination with a strong brand wouldn’t do much is fixing your cynicism in the wrong place. I believe if they made a Zelda-level, quality Pokémon video game, it would sell GANGBUSTERS. Would likely break records.
Cannot believe the best part of Scarlet/Violet's "story" (Nemona, Penny, and Arven) were apparently ditched completely for the DLC so they could continue cramming more probably one-note anime trope characters at us.
Idk, I found it pretty funny in hindsight. PC is pokemon champion, Penny and Nemona found out the power of friendship. Arven lost his parent twice in an hour, and is just told to cheer up and walk into the sunset. It's such a tragic ending it loops right around to being funny.
Not sure I want that expanded upon, even if poor Arven deserves it.
Have you tried the epilogue?
...Remember when they said they were TOTALLY going to fix the performance issues in this game because they take our feedback "very seriously" or whatever? lol
Actually they said "you'll buy it anyway, but-but we'll try..."
They already have a brand new game ready, Action52 style.
Turns out the games CANT be fixed. Gen 9 will go down in history as the ugliest, buggiest, underperforming games in the franchise
@@Maho3942 Good thing I bailed on the series after Sword/Shield and Legends. lol
Pokemon S and V is the first Pokémon game I’ve ever played…and probably the last. It’s so bad. Like, soooo bad. Why even make a game if you’re going to make it literal garbage, like, what’s the point?
I just fired up shield and it’s crazy how much better that one looks and runs than scarlet and violet.
Sword and Shield are great games. But they are linear and have too much handholding. Hop isn't a rival to me. A rival should be one that rarely helps you and doesn't kiss your but. Two generations in a row those were our "rivals" : Hau and Hop. There was no linear order to Scarlet and Violet, it was ALL ABOUT exploration. The storylines dealt with real consequences. The storylines of Scarlet and Violet felt fleshed out. Not like the other games. Only Sword and Shield and Legends Arceus seemed to have some resolution to their storylines. The others made us think that was so but not really. You became champion, but were the evil teams disbanded or their leaders thrown in prison? Nope.
Sword/Shield are mostly linear outside of the Wild Area though - much easier to optimise than an open world.
@@battlep0t so true
@@battlep0t not really a great excuse. They both look generations behind other Nintendo switch games but there is no excuse for how bad the open world runs in Scarlett and violet. Especially when they have more money than almost any other game devolver and still can’t do as a good of a job as some indie developers. Even just look how much better dragon quest monsters looks and runs. It’s still not perfect but so so so much better than SV.
I'd pick scarlet and violet over it given that it has a shred of ambition, but it's still pretty sad that the biggest franchise on the planet looks like this.
It’s much better than part one.
The item printer alone is amazing, and the story wrapped up quite well in my opinion so I would say yes, despite all the performance faults, it’s worth it.
The overall story of this generation is better than any Pokémon story we have had in years in my opinion and unlike the previous generation where the DLC contributed nothing to the main story, this was quite well done.
I can only imagine, however how much better these games could have been as a completed package if they had actually done anything in regards to fixing the performance of the games themselves that they once promised they would, but of course, that was all PR .
In terms of story quality, I feel that only applies to the base game and Teal Mask. It feels like a lot of basic questions about Area Zero and even Terapogos itself went unanswered in Indigo Disk, and the payoff of the Kieran arc just didn’t feel all that satisfying.
Also, for an expansion with Terapogos as the hyped-up face, the poor little turtle friend felt kind of like an afterthought.
I think this is gonna be the last Pokémon game I buy. I still love Pokémon in general. But I’m extremely on the fence of any future games by gamefreak. Unless there’s an insane quality improvement in gen 10, I’m just gonna go watch playthroughs of it.
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Ditto to that. I'll be watching and reading reviews with a critical eye before I ever buy another Pokémon title again, despite the nostalgia & generalized love of the franchise.
I must admit that originally I wasn´t going to buy this DLC (when Teal Mask came out I did the watching a playthrough instead of playing myself) but the most recent Indigo Disk trailer made me cave a week before it came out :,(
I will say Indigo Disk has been pretty fun and the battles being doubles adds a much needed difficulty spike to the game since now your pokemon are forced to stay in battle as opposed to being able to swap them out before the opponent takes out their next mon in single battles.
I think the story could´ve been better though, at least I wish they gave more of a resolution to the siblings´ relationship or show that Carmine is going to make more of an effort to stop being an abusive jerk to her brother. But hey, supposedly they have yet to release one more epilogue so...
Tbh i feel like it’ll be the last Pokémon generation they ever put out.
Gamefreak’s most likely gonna fizzle out completely due to not caring and not having enough resources to make games past alpha. **I still had a lot of fun with SV tho :)**
I hope to damn god Pokémon is done. Pokemon is, was, and will be a mistake, both in that it ever got popular and that it went for 25 years.
The lack of a battle tower facility really made this dlc a let down for me. Also I thought we were gonna spend waaaay more time exploring a new part of area zero.
Sigh..came to this video to see if a battle tower got added..battle towers are the only reason to bother playing since everything is painfully easy
It seemed really, really promising at first, but they definitely dropped the ball at the last moment with the story. Absolutely bizarre that Kieran's drastic character change was in no way related to the final pokemon in the dex, and they kind of just raised even more questions than answers when it came to Area Zero's mysteries, the paradox pokemon and terastalisation.
if u pay antention and read every text, they do answer almost all the mysteries
@@ObrigadaJimThere are definitely a lot of things they didn't answer and I'm heavily invested in the lore.
Go the the crystal lake in kitakami after catching terapagos
SV in general are best described as "basic disappointment," so it's unsurprising that the DLC feels exactly the same.
well.. at least its probably the pokemon games with best story, like a well writen narrative and not just some events with cartboard characters like the old generations.
@@ObrigadaJim that’s crazy
This game doesn't touch the story of black and white@@ObrigadaJim
@ObrigadaJim if anyone cares about the story, I'd say watch videos on RUclips. I wouldn't spend money on this game or its dlc in it's current state just for the story
the story of black and white is a mess, they had a great starting point, a polical discussion involving animal rights, and yet at the end it goes again like always, the big bad guy that is just is evil for the sake of being evil, they dont even follow the freedom politics talk, its just dropped and all the characters are like i said, cartboard blank slates for text, N does have some develmopment yes and its cool but still small and nothing compared to the way they develope some charcters with layers in the gen 9 games, like the professor and specially kieran and carmine. @@tyleredge5349
There is actually a secret cutscene that makes the story much better go to the crystal lake in kitakami and take terapagos with you
You don't need to take terapagos there you just need to have it captured. The cutscene does the rest from your boxes.
Pokémon just isn’t what it used to be anymore. I don’t even get excited for DLCs anymore. I don’t read stories EVER & aside from events, what’s the point of playing. You get on, catch event Pokémon or enter the gift code, & get off. I hate repetition in a game & Pokémon was the ONLY exception I made for that. DRY repetition though is agony 🥱😴
What happened to the days of SouSilver & Emerald where there was SO much to do aside from events. Gold & Silver, Red & Blue, Safari Zones, PLANTING FUCKING BERRIES ALL over the map my God 😩 Battle Frontier. THOSE were the golden days of Pokémon, LONGGGG removed. Legends Arceus was a breath of fresh air though I must admit.
Pokémon is a monstrosity whose engine is an MMO that pretends to be a franchise from nine generation of video games.
Well the man who created and pushed the Nintendo DS to its limits has been dead for awhile now. If he was still alive he would be pushing the games to the limits and prob have given us better quality games. May he rest in peace.
“I dont get excited for DLC’s anymore” theres only been 2 bud
Imagine showing a Pokémon fan15 years ago how the Pokémon games today look like. Not as they expected probably.
They’d probably be amazed. 13 years ago, this would have been mind blowing for Pokémon lmao
not really, Pokemon had put out 3d games that played better at that point @@aintthatapotofeffluck8926
13 years ago we had the ps3 so no, they would have compared it to that glitch fest that was the new battlefield XD
@@aintthatapotofeffluck8926 crysis came out in 2007 dude
@@Philbyyyy just because that game existed doesn’t mean it wouldn’t have been impressive for a Pokemon game back then.
I still often wonder if DLC is better than a 3rd version. The latter, you have to wait but improvements to QOL and content are made, while the former is picking it up anytime but you're stuck with the same old game despite the small extra cost of new content compared to buying it again
Back then ppl also waited for the 3rd version or just sold the old game to buy the new one so it was even less then now.
I live in germany and the game plus dlc is over 100 euro so its like buying 2 switch games.
In th3 end the 3rd version was a better deal no matter how much ppl like to pretend or ignore the truth.
How are paying this much? Even if you don't buy it when it is in sale, it costs 94,98€ for the game and the DLC combined.
What if Pokemon only had one version per-Gen? With multiple save files and all mons are easily catchable. And had all good improvements and features of third versions, remakes, and DLCs?
...SV didn't implement a single QoL update. In fact it gets worse every time they touch it
Fans would complain that they didn't have to spend 2× the amount of money
There's a third epilogue dlc in the game locked behind a keyitem that hasn't been released yet, I watched a playthrough of it (they modded the keyitem in), it looked really good. 😮
What?
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I love pokemon, have every game including Violet but this Gen sucked because of performance
My God every time I look at this game I’m blown away by how UGLY it looks
😫 my eyes!
Yeah I can look past most of my issues with this game and still have fun playing it… but the world itself is definitely my biggest issue and is what ruins my enjoyment more than anything else.
Everything from the poor world design, to the boring, extremely generic looking locations and biomes, to of course just how ugly and unappealing to look at most of the world is. The graphics are lacking, but it’s also just such bad and uninspired design, it truly amazes me it made it out of development with the world being so ugly. The Pokémon look so good too, so it’s such a shame the world is a big empty shell.
Nothing takes me out of the game more than how uninterested I am with looking at and exploring the map. 3D Pokémon worlds had better designs all the way back on the N64, and quite a few of the GameCube games not only had better world designs, they also just straight up looked better despite being on vastly inferior hardware. Making a world that looks good and people actually want to explore and interact with should be at the top of the priority list for their next game, but I doubt it will be.
i agree. it's unacceptable.
Same here
Ew
I just saw that there is going to be an epilogue released early January (I think the 11th?). Maybe that will help wrap the story up some.
I know this game's performance is pretty terrible, but I still really like it. Admittedly, a game's performance doesn't matter as much to me (as long as it isn't constantly crashing, which hasn't been my experience). I think the story is great and I like the characters (which, other than Legends, I don't really even remember the characters). Hopefully they keep this level of storytelling and the development isn't as rushed on the next game (and they team up with the Zelda folks).
I still think it's crazy that this game manages to nearly overheat my switch. When nearly every other game that should be more demanding... narely a peep.
This game turns my switch into a jet engine on startup. Like. Why.
Also. I didn't like the game for many reasons like world design, graphic quality, its empty towns, and npcs that just... walk in circles with a line of text above them. And the dlc made almost all of it way more apparent when going around.
It sucks cuz it's my first actual pokemon game (I'm not playing the others. Fight me). And I really like the ideas they were trying to implement with pokemon interactions. But it was never fully realized or fleshed out since they rushed it into the ground.
I'll just be watching until they realize that their "advertisement" actually matters a lot more.
I'm glad to see a lot of people enjoying the gameplay parts of it, but the story is way too disappointing for me to consider picking it up.
Not only are a lot of plot points built up from the base game such as whoever attacked to Arvin week's dog, an extended answer into the truth of Paradox Pokemon, the relationship between Heath, Terapagos, and Professor Sada/Turo, just not mentioned, but things like Carmine and Kieran's dynamic, and the return of the Area Zero trio (Nemona, Penny, Arvin) weren't done to their greatest potential and that kinda sucks, for me at least.
A Paradox Pokémon attacked Arven’s dog, you find that out in area zero
Were you not paying attention to the main game story? Arven’s Mabostiff was attacked by a Paradox Pokémon.
@@TheFunctioningInsomniacAnd that's the thing, which one wasn't specified, and that proceeded to lead to months of speculation on what new Pokemon it could've been, from another legendary paradox Mon like Roaring Moon or a new one entirely like Terapagos.
The point is that Arvin's story was deliberately unfinished, which led people expecting it along with the other two rivals (Penny and Nemona) to be expanded upon or at least have some kind of role given how much people liked them in the base game.
Arven himself explained how Masbosstiff got hurt when first diving into Area Zero. Arven along with both Penny & Nemona get extra closure in their arcs through the multiple conversation mini academy stories for them that is unlocked after beating the Ace Academy Tournament. If you be ng Terapigis to the lake in Kitakami you extra story context. Not to mention the journal entries in the Area Zero Stations and the new ones from the new DLC related parts also give much more context. Briar is literally Heath's descendant and her actions are reflection based on how he was treated in the past. Team Star gets even more story after beating the DLC story in Paldea Academy. It's all there and plus another epilogue story that is not "officially" released yet until later in the year, that gives the main characters for both storylines a bit more focus.
Im little bit stuck, beccause I dont know where to go next on Area Zero! No questionmark or anything, so for me its hard to know what to do next.. Any tips? :)
And there is no battle tower, in a DLC that's supposedly centered around battles. I mean, Pokemon was never a really great series (with the exception of the 5th gen, which i really liked), but now that they removed a staple of the franchise, that existed since crystal, theres not really much to do besides shiny hunting and raids. Like there is no challenge at all and when you dont get challenged, the whole experience becomes boring. Why would i care about strong pokemons, when the game is so easy that i can beat it with my starter and a backup pokemon?
The battle tower was the only reason for a non competitive player to get deeper into the game systems and try out pokemon. Now its just a boring slog, that doesnt motivate me anymore to go through, because at the end theres no 'reward" that actually tests my skills.
My biggest problem with Pokemon is how short the games are. If I've not deliberately taking my time, I can clear the games in one day, maybe two depending on how much I play. And that isn't very fun. I'd like them to last a bit longer.
One day? Two days? Lmao that all you do is play games all day?
Honestly I feel like they could've done more with the DLC. With that said there are some promising mechanics introduced here such as the syncing machine. I just the new area in Area Zero were bigger and we had to explore more with more new Paradox Pokémon to battle. My biggest problem is with Pecharunt. I thought it was in the game already but it's locked away. It took me hours before I found out.
Same! I guess it’ll be an event later but I definitely thought it’d be in the dlc
No shit, they could have done A LOT more lmao
They essentially did as little as possible...
The worst part: fans have told Gamefreak with their wallets that putting out buggy, unfinished Pokemon games is perfectly fine. Now the next gen games will be just as bad or worse.
Then don't buy it. It doesn't matter what other people do with their money. You don't have to do it because we do.
And im one of them😊
Cool and you go and buy the new game and dont tell ppl that they cant hate shitty unfinished games.
OK, let the fans decide what they want. They're the ones playing the games, not you.
@@lordmolag45000 Breathe buddy lol
Unlike you I'm not telling anyone what to do, just stating my opinion. It's funny how you guys get furious at someone simply pointing out the truth but when Gamefreak craps out objectively bad games you rush to your keyboards to defend the company that duped you.
I loved the blueberry part of the DLC but didn't like the Aero Zero part. The E4 and the Unova References as someone who started with BW were awesome!
HOWEVER....
Kieran had a much more realistic defeat and chance at redemption in blueberry before he became a plot piece to set off Terapagos.
When you could have used Briar for that!
She should have been the bad guy! She has such a bizarre theme compared to the rest of the other characters! Now she is just a nothing character... lmao.
Briar is no different to someone like Sonia. She’s just there to dump the lore. No reason for her to suddenly be evil out of no where.
Sonia was a boring character though, and I get not anyone has to be mega battlers, but what was briar doing imo.@@Critical_HitZ
Violet is the only pokemon game that I didnt finish, not sure if I aged or this game just doesn't click with me. I don't even bothered to get the expansion
I like how this channel will actually criticise Nintendo games when they are so broken and, in this case, crap.
I'll stick with my Pokémon mmo.. They should have never took away seeing random people online like in wild area in sw/sh that killed it for me.. It's 2024 not 2005! lmao
Yeah the second I saw the background glitching when this video started, I knew I made the right call I not getting this DLC. It would be so easy for them to fix this game but they just don’t want to
What if third versions, remakes, and DLCs never existed? And if all their cool features and improvements existed sooner in earlier installments?
Even two versions. Dont make it two games anymore. They gotta go the Arceus direction with mainline games and pace it like Zelda games. I mean seriously, why cant Game Freak take a page off Zelda? Just take your time and put a lot of effort into the development, and it’ll pay off for everyone.
Arceus was the most fun I've had in ages playing Pokemon despite the kind of lackluster environments. Just one complete game, no versions, no paid DLC, interesting story and enough gameplay to feel satisfied. I wish Pokemon went in this direction but it's not as lucrative for them so they probably won't.
@@zoruasnivy Why did Tajiri Satoshi want to make Pokemon so tedious?
SV+DLC felt like the end for me with the games... I love the Pokemon ip but I just hate how the games are treated in terms of quality... I can forgive PLA cause it was something new, a spinoff that was quite engaging and felt a lot different yet something the franchise really needed imo. this is the main line game and should be treated with at least a bit more respect imo. it feels a lot buggier and feels like I am playing something worse than what a ps2 could output in terms of visuals and frame rate. idk how the world's largest grossing IP can't bring up a better performing product than this one to introduce their new Pokemon that will be the marketing for everything new in terms of merch and media. the overall main story was ok for a Pokémon story but I really hated Kieran, the kid's anxiety gave me a headache. even if the new quests reward me unobtainable legendaries from earlier games, I cant help myself to go through this game anymore. I was disappointed by all this tbh.
PLA isn’t a spin off.
PLA may as well be a spinoff even if it is marked as part of the timeline.
I'm gonna' go out of the way and be the weird one in the middle:
No I don't think Scarlet and Violet are the best games in the series if you just give them the chance.
But no I don't think it's a dumpster fire. It's a fire. And there's a dumpster right next to it. But the dumpster itself isn't on fire.
Played since Gen 1, played nearly every Pokemon game (skipped a few Mystery Dungeons and Rangers). Fave Gens were 1 and 6.
Fave Pokemon is and always has been Hitmonchan. Don't have any hate towards any of the new pokemon designs. Don't got a problem that they keep mixing up the formula - so long as, one day, they bring all of these mixes together into one cohesive game (here's hoping it's in Gen X).
Now that we got all that out of the way...
If you have Scarlet and Violet: The Indigo DLC is worth it.
If you don't: Then it's not.
Simple, isn't it?
If you care about filling out your pokedex, especially for the following generations: The DLC is very worth it.
If you care about building your teams quickly for competitive or casual tournaments, including for following generations: The DLC is very worth it.
If you care about story......... I mean....... it's certainly not the worst portrayed story of Pokemon. One can still argue that Sword and Shield was the worst. It depends on your taste.
Is the DLC worth it if you've been avoiding Scarlet & Violet all this time?
Only if you care about completing pokedexes and prepping pokemon for non-story battles.
Why so? Because Scarlet and Violet are built in a way to speedrun catching, leveling, and prepping teams (held items, evs & ivs, moves, etc). And the DLC is much moreso. You can build dozens of teams in a single day, get them to the levels and stats you need them to be, equip them with the right items, and have them ready for any tournament/match you're gearing up for. If you want to casual battle your friends... play Showdown. But if you want to casual battle your friends within more official settings and more solid gameplay-feel, get this game along with its DLC.
Also, the amount of pokemon you can catch in this game + DLC is insanely high. You want every legendary for your pokedex? You want every starter? You want those pesky pokemon they decided not to bring over from previous gens (except for alolan meowth and raichu for some reason)...? Get this game and its DLC. It's future-proof.
Why not just wait until the next gen to have the same thing + a better experience? Because Pokemon ISN'T KNOWN for bringing its best features into future generations... Pokemon World Tournament, anyone? For all we know, the next Pokemon game can be far more traditional in order to meet the expectations of the TENTH INSTALLMENT OF A LONG RUNNING SERIES... which sounds like an awesome thing... until you consider the fact that traditional means banging your head against eggs over and over and over again just to build a team that you love. Traditional means taking an eternity to build any team for battle. Traditional means sawing your head off in order to complete a pokedex. Traditional = More fun, but far more inconvenient.
Not saying that Convenience > Fun... But I am saying that Convenience = Less Headaches.
You want less headaches for Gen X? Then it's best to invest in Scarlet and Violet + DLC while the iron's still hot, rather than having to beg people during Gen X to go back to S/V to help you gather Pokemon, mochi, and BP... because frankly, IF Gen X is better than Gen IX: NO ONE WILL WANT TO GO BACK TO GEN IX.
If you think dropping down $90 for the sake of convenience is stupid......... wait until you grow up and realize you have a very limited amount of time to do anything. $90 to get rid of hundreds of hours of headaches is actually a very good deal. And if you think that Pokemon's nickle and diming people for how "Pokemon should already be"... No. Ew, no. Pokemon SHOULDN'T be this easy to raise up teams. It's the reason why people think the newer Gens, since Gen 6, have been "too easy". Frankly, if we had Traditional mechanics in Gen 6-forward... if we had Arceus mechanics in Gen 6-forward: We'd genuinely believe that Leon is indeed the strongest champion ever. We wouldn't think Geeta was "Gawd Awful" (maybe just Awful). We wouldn't think that the journeys were lackluster in their challenges. Pokemon SHOULDN'T BE THIS EASY.
However... it being easy also saves us a lot of headaches... especially for people like myself, who run casual tournaments on a bi-monthly basis.
The tournaments I used to run in previous Gens used to be SEASONAL, just to ensure everyone had time to legit-build their teams.
Kids without a job would just kind of sit for months, twiddling their thumbs, agonizing for the next tournament because they got done in a single week. While the adults would feel rushed to breed the best teams just so that their time isn't wasted when the tournament starts.
With this game + its DLC... everyone can have their team done BY THE END OF THE DAY.
So if you want convenience, drop $90 for this game with its DLC.
If convenience isn't your forte, or if you're willing to risk to see if they'll bring this level of convenience into Gen X (I do highly doubt that they'll bring the unique Poke Balls gacha machine into it... which is honestly really awesome and I'll miss it dearly), then don't waste your money. Because its story isn't compelling enough to sell it.
And if you're here complaining about graphics + performance... calling it "ugly"...
I mean.... sure? But Pokemon, outside of Gen 4 and 5 (and the spin-off games), has never looked amazing. If you want a great-looking game... I think it's time for your to move on. Pokemon looks great when it looks great, but you can't bank on it to look great, especially with the current infrastructure of the Pokemon Company + Game Freak + Creatures. The artists and programmers can work their butt off, but let's be frank: Unless the Pokemon Company hires professionals from (outside) major companies, they do NOT have enough time or manpower to make the pokemon game of our dreams. Arceus only worked because they gave the team complete freedom and a loose deadline. You can't expect the mainline pokemon games to ever get that sort of treatment (and btw, Pokemon Company only considers Arceus a mainline pokemon because it sold so well... but let's face it, it's basically a Emerald, Crystal, BW2, OmegaAlpha, SM2... aka: the in-between game a part of the studio creates while the main team works their butt off for the next mainline entry). 5 years IS NOT enough time to build a 3D pokemon game with their current team size. AT LEAST SEVEN YEARS is required now. If you push for the Pokemon Company to change their deadlines from 5 years into 7 or 8 years: THEN you can expect amazing graphics.
But as it is... only expect to be disappointed.
Not trying to excuse the poor performance of the latest entry.
But saying that it's seriously not a factor for people who play it.
If it's a factor for you, again: Please move onto better pastures. There's a lot of pokemon-esque games out there now with amazing graphics. Don't die on this hill, man. It's not worth it.
The whole purpose of my rant?
I skipped out on the Sword & Shield DLC because I didn't particularly enjoy Sword & Shield (I loved it at the beginning... and then I realized how shallow it was and grew to despise it). And I felt confident in my decision to skip out on it due to everyone's clamoring of what they added to the DLC. They were just shouting on and on about catching Legendaries, and Kubfu, and going into those ultra Raids... which... uh... I HATED THE RAIDS IN SW&SH. I have friends to play with, and those Raids caused serious pains in our relationships. I can't stand them. At least in Scarlet & Violet (their Raids are awful too), you're GUARANTEED TO CAPTURE a beaten Raid pokemon. Still horrendous of an experience, but not as infuriating/disheartening. Plus, I'm not really into Legendaries. So...
I thought I made the right decision. But, years later, when I looked into what was in the DLC, there were a TON OF OTHER FEATURES I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT BECAUSE NO ONE CARED TO TALK ABOUT THEM. THOSE features I was GENUINELY interested in, not all the crap about Raids. I regretted it after that, but I wasn't exactly in the mood to buy it and beg people to play with me again.
Point is... If there's something in the DLC you REALLY like the sound of?
The DLC is worth it. There's seriously no guarantee these features will reappear in the next Pokemon game.
If you've researched the DLC thoroughly (rather than just listen to other people ramble) and you found there's nothing there for you?
Ignore it and move on.
Whichever you do, don't brag about Scarlet & Violet (it seriously isn't perfect), nor trash and hate on it (it seriously isn't a dumpster fire... just a fire with a dumpster).
Just, you know... live your life, you know? This game isn't worth your worship or your rage.
None of these people even like pokemon games, and none of them understand how games are made. Yes it runs and looks like shit at times, but its a turn based game so doesnt matter that in terms of gameplay. These same people (not actuially fans of pokemon) moaned for years about how pokemon games hadnt evolved and had the same formula as the original gen 1 games and were not open world rpg games yet (even considering they were on the ds lmao) and how they are bad games because of it. When the pushed the hardware and made that game people always said they wanted those same people moan about how the perfoamnce is bad (im sure most of them have never even played on a switch before as SV isnt even that much worse than most other switch games). Hating pokemon games is a circle jerk and none of what these people say are valid criticisms (even alex in this video reviewing this dlc said he hadn't even actually properly played the game and has been one of the loudest people shitting on SV and getting other people who havent played it too also lmao).
Honestly I just think these people are idiots that just parrot whatever the see everyone else saying online.
I think its very fair scarlet and violet get criticized for ongoing performance issues, and the storyline is half way there, but its also a kids game so I haven't ever really expected much in that regard. It might be a connected chapter and considered differently when we get other games. They didn't address anything tied to its potential impact on competitive Pokemon which I would like included in a review. The double battles on offer are sneakily well designed. Hoping the effort they put in to make attacks and movement more realistic just becomes the baseline for the next games.
"Its a kids game" is no excuse for the crap graphics and performance.
@@Philbyyyy Agreed. Kids games should be fun, pretty, and have a good story. It's what they want, it's what I want, it's what you want. And it's okay to expect things to feel finished.
I've played tons of games for kids that had actually competent stories
I liked the double battles, they definitely were a fun challenge compared to me fisning the base game way too easy
But its definitely a weak story. Teal Mask had the best overall plot for me, and the writing made me care about Ogerkon and Koraidon alot. Terapagos... i coupdnt care less about. It only shows up at the very end and barely did anything, compared to the other 2 mons who got to be actual characters (also that Ogerpon battle was so damn good)
I have both games. But I don't know which dlc to get and I'm guessing it all depends on the paradox legendary pokemon. Which ones are better ?
I never finished scarlet and violet either. After getting to area zero, the glitches and constant flashes started to give me a headache. I was never fully on board with the game anyway. It is a step backwards from Arceus. That game changed the pokemon games in so many good ways and yet they went backwards with scarlet and violet. The next pokemon game needs to be so so much better after the disappointment that is scarlet and violet.
Sword and Shield was a beautiful masterpiece. I hate the visual issues in this game. We could have waited longer. A game that’s major draw is the open world shouldn’t have this much open issues.
Was so disappointed with this one. The main game and the first dlc set up a lot of cool ideas but almost none of them come through in the end. Wasted potential, just as always since Pokémon X and Y.
Oh yeah, and the game STILL runs horribly.
Truly a shame, all those plot points set up from the base game no go basically nowhere and now, even more questions are raised
Did they fix this game? Is it still falling apart?
Edit: Okay watched the review. Looks like it is still shit show. I am playing Cyberpunk 2077 these days and it is blowing me away. Really wished gamefreak to do that kind of come back.
so the first pokemon game i ever played was crystal version back when it was new and i have to say scarlet/violet are my favorite games in the franchise so far. it would be arceus if battling was a bit more heavy.
I haven’t played the game since finishing it on the first month. Are the technical issues resolved or at least somewhat improved?
No. Technical issues continue to get worse with each update
They have not implemented any QoL updates
I really enjoyed Scarlet and Violet but the frame drops and shoddy graphics/glitches really have me on the fence about buying the DLC. I can't play the game for more than an hour or two without getting really nauseous and motion sick, something no game has done to me outside of Virtual Reality titles.
There’s one part of the Savannah biome near the edge with the mud pools that consistently freezes my game 😅 I’ve defended these games so far but god it’s rough…
not buying anything until they patch the performance issues
I guess you aren't buy it because the game and story are done now.
@@derekosgood3230 Security Breach got a bug patch not long after its release. I don't know where you got this idea that games won't be fixed after their story n' all is done...
I completed the pokedex and have the shiny charm is this worth it even if it was free?
Which one do I buy first indigo or teal?
Teal lol . Gonna buy it rn .
🤦♂️ just realised the both came together I thought it was gonna be like sword and shield I’m dumb
@@CKeys333 same lol I thought they were split lol
I don't get how people are happily playing this game, I really want to finish it because I love pokemon but man the performance is just utter shit, it's really pathetic how they fucked up the game this badly.
As for story I've never really been one to follow them because they're so over the top cringe and I'm not here for read test, put voice acting in the games already.
Hope pokemon Z-A is a complete game where you don't have to buy $30 DLC to complete the Pokedex or add whatever wasn't in the game
Guys, any opinion on wether it's worth it or not to buy Pokemon SV in 2024 and why (or why not). Huge thanks to you all!
3 weeks later but if you just crave pokemon gameplay and can look past the terrible performance, its worth it. I enjoyed the game overall but it has a lot of issues
Thanks for you answer mate!! I'll give it some thought@@trippy5519
@@luisnm01 The game isnt perfect but if you love Pokemon its fun and worth buying
The fact area zero got no real expansion downward besides a linear single route cave was tragic.
What a waste of the games most mysterious and atmospheric settings… It felt real unlike the rest of the game and its at most 2 hours long and at the very end 😢
Tbh I had higher hopes for Indigo Disc. Story felt short and underwhelming. I also felt shortchanged with the home update. My poor Roserade and others are just wasting away in the box.
Making it across the finish line with 2 broken legs
Alex laughing when he almost says you take on the bbl
All I wanted to know was “did you need to finish the main game to access the dlc?”
I didn’t think you were going to answer… but you got me at the end. Great vid!
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My god the graphics are truly abysmal.
The story in the first DLC is the first time I've actually had a pokemon on my team just because of how much I fell in love with them(Ogrepon) and in general the story we've had is more than we've ever had in pokemon history. I just bought a 3ds and replayed black and black 2 and the story while not terrible has not held up as well and was pretty edgy if you aren't a 10-14 year old. The models again have been amazing especially for a lot of the new pokemon they brought in.
Honestly while flawed games especially with their performance, this game with the dlc is top 3 for me all time next to platinum, legends arceus and oras. If this game had decent performance I think for most people it'd be top 5 all time with the dlc. That being said the DLC should've been 15-20 dollars at most not 35.
Wouldve been better if they didn't split into 2 parts the dlc and made the whole thing into a regions instead an island or huge academy dome
For a similar amount of money you can buy Witcher 3s Blood and Wine DLC, or Monster Hunter Rise's Sunbreak DLC.
Main thing that interests me is what new pokemon you can catch.
why do they keep making dlcs, just make it an update
Why the fuck can't this company make a good fucking game?? Wtf is going on
Too greedy to give there developers time or recources.
Also making a new game/dlc every year that sells itself like nothing else while also having in comparison low production costs is something every company dreams of.
I you want change don't buy the
games.
Meanwhile Dragon Quest Monsters dropped a QoL update. Only took 3 weeks.
Still waiting on one for pokemon... a year later...
Good lord this game looks awful.
the graphics remind me of when black and white came out. it had such a good story and was a good game but the ds did not have the capability to produce the graphics they were aiming for. had it come out on the 3ds the performance would have been so much better.
BW worked with what it had rather well and pushed the limits of the DS (the pixel art was beautiful imo and the 2.5D was exciting for the time), however Scarlet and Violet definitely just feel unoptimized, since other games like Tears of the Kingdom are on the same system and manage to look & run better. I wish I could say it was Scarlet and Violet being too detailed for the console but it definitely doesn't seem that way. Having time to bake really makes a night and day difference.
I really did enjoy Pokemon Violet, spend 130 hours in the game, just got the DLC expansions "Have not been playing the DLC yet" but overall i did enjoy it alot, i havent played a pokemon game since the gameboy advance days, i did how ever enjoy the dragon quest the dark prince alot more i got to say.
Man, I watched this thinking that maybe the time it's been out and the content that's been added means that it was compelling now, but man this still looks so bad.
I just hope that the next mainline entry emphasizes polish more, but we've been burnt three times in the switch generation, I'm not optimistic.
Its so frustrating that a triple A company like game freak cant make a game that even looks visually good in a VIDEO like its actually so annoying
I really don't blame you for still talking about the game's performance. It negatively affects every second of what would otherwise be a great game!
How? Its a turn based game bro. Apart from being a bit uneasy on the eyes at times its completely playable. If it was an fps or action game (apex or gta on switch for example) I would agree. People always moaned about how the game hasn't evolved and when they push the hardware they have to the limit those same people cry about it. I think what that starfield dev game out and said recently is very evident in the case of SV (and Pokémon in general). Pokémon isn't the only game on switch with terrible performance and as someone who mostly plays at 144hz on PC, SV's 20fps isn't that much worse than 30fps lmao. Every big game runs like shit on the switch, its a 10 year old entry level tablet. Your smartphone is 5x more powerful.
@@jamescelliers3195 the game stutters, lags, bugs out, crashes... It's just unacceptable for an entry in a hugely profitable franchise to be this bad performance-wise. Not to mention the fact that open world exploration is a huge focus of this particular game, which is immensely hindered by endless technical issues
I've so far resisted buying the DLC because I decided that, while I did have fun playing the game (and still connect online for the 7* raids when I remember), and probably would have fun with the DLC as well, I just can't knowingly pay for content in a game that runs so poorly. I would've accepted performance updates alongside the release of the DLC (better late than never), but even that didn't happen. It's a real shame. I'll not only be skipping the DLC but I'm also going to wait and see some reviews before I decide whether or not to buy the next generation when it releases.
I'm waiting for the performance patch before buying the dlc.
So I won't buy it ever.
I don't think they will. They're already working on the next game they can rush out for the Switch's successor.
They need to release Switch 2, i play at friend and games are laggy af. Instead of Oled they should add better APU and Ram...jesus its laggy.
i loved playing through the base game when it came out it was a lot of fun for me but the dlc look rushed and crammed in there to get all the pokemon like u said it feels really bad dlc look really bad
What if third versions, remakes, and DLCs never existed? And if all the good things about them were in the original paired versions?
@@tlst94Dlc and third versión disappearing wouldnt be a Bad idea. But remakes? A lot of People didnt have the chance to play the original game (like me Witherspoon 3rd gen) and really enjoyed the remake
Is the dlc co op?
Why do people think this is a bad dlc😢
35 bucks bro in a Game that it's 60 bucks pure shit
Your right
the main story and game are so boring that i couldnt even finish it. the poor performance of the game makes it worse.
Im real hesitant to buy a $35 dlc
I liked the DLC so far. Could have been worse or better.
These tons of graphic issues but as an old gamer since NES im used to this. Not really acceptable for 2023 but still playable.
Teal mask story was boring af, but the second part of the DLC is way better and funnier. With lot of end game content.
But imo, they should keep their game the old fashioned way. Cause they are really bad at making 3d games, yes the hardware isn’t powerfull but they manage to do games like Mario Odyssey which is run really well, so it can be made right.
EXACTLY! The sole reason for Pokémon to have moved to 3D was because it was popular and got them more money. If they returned to 2D, it could maybe earn them even more money, because 3D has not been very good recently...
I had lag and stutter to when i was playing
but it's maybe to because of everyone playing at the same time
The fact that this game chose to remove Trainer, Gym and Elite Four Rematches, add mid DLC, and not fix any of its framerate issues… and the fact that I still go back to Pokemon Crystal after putting it down, means that this game has earned its C+ grade at best. Lots of potential, but so much disappointment.
I might be done buying Pokemon games… didn’t even get this one at full price. The only thing that would pull me back in is if they make a Gen 2 remake and do it properly.
I’m with Alex, I’m just jaded 🤣
Merry Christmas.. 🎄🎅..enough said for this comment section.
Looking forward to this, really enjoyed The Teal Mask, especially the additional pokemon quests.
6/10 seems waaaaaaaaaaay too generous.
They were at there peek with mega’s. Why did they abandon success to “try some new.”
Because GameFreak hates building on anything they have to put effort into.
I'd go a step further and say that ORAS was their peak. Even without the Battle Frontier, the Pokemon formula was perfected here. It was all downhill from there.
i dunno, maybe it's just me... there's this certain place in the terarium where my game slows/freezes, the area where you find Blitzle and Zebstrika... i'm actually surprised that aside from that, the game runs better.
It actually runs worse
@@SlimeBlueMS I would say it is slightly better *in most places*, it just in the few instances its not it is worse. Have you even played it?
And thats a total experience of €95:)
Pokemon legend Arceus should've had the Dlc, not S&V.
Just be thankful you didnt buy the wrong DLC pack like i did.... £72 😢
I got into Scarlet & Violet a bit late and Put in A lot of Hours into Shiny Hunting and the Competitive Scene. When The first DLC Launched I knew right away, But I only just now realized that the Second Dropped. I don’t really play anymore but i’am glad The Indigo Disc Turned out as well as it did!
I don't know if it turned out well or if pokemon fans just don't care about the quality lol
I long for the day Pokemon comes to PlayStation/Xbox
The worst thing about all this is that they had the audacity to charge £32 for this DLC, Yep am definitely glad I skipped this DLC.
I thought I was watching a game from 1999 but no. This was the dlc for a game in 2023…..
I'll only play this game once a Switch 2 comes out, hopefully the backwards compatibility has a performance boost.
Shouldn't have to seeing as TOTK runs fine but the Pokemon company cares more about profits then quality.
Thank you for the wonderful review! You just saved my money! :)
5:59 FRAMEDEROPS
Sold this game for some of my money back within 2 weeks. Garbage. The kids can have it as they are impressed by shiny things.
Take terrapagos to the crystal pool in kitakami… you’re welcome
What’s the closest Pokemon switch game that’s like the classics?
lets go is a remake of gen 1 its the closest youll get
Pretty much gotta pay for safari zone 😂😂
Bro why is everyone hating on the lag… like just enjoy the game for what it is and so what if it’s laggy? You can still have fun! But the only thing I don’t like is how hard it is to get charmander!
Where in GameFreak's mind playing another paid content at 15 fps with stuttering is fun? 😑