I disagree, SEO is helpful for the users, and all optimizations aim to provide the crawler and indexer with a lot more information so that the user can receive the best content they can. I remember a year or two some websites broke the algorhythm with a lot of articles that contained a question + the year + a lot of topics into a single page. If SEO wasn't adjusted, then spammers would take over the first page of the search results. In general if SEO did not exist, you would have either: 1. links between websites or a website with a lot of links based on category, 2. no such centralization at all, just entering by address. Both of these seem inefficient for me.
@@user-dc9zo7ek5j Not really sure that is true. Now SEO is just up for straight up purchased by the highest bidder and the search engine that shows the results is owned by an effective monopoly. There is a reason why you have to go to the 10th page of results to get anything that isn't a Reddit or Facebook post. Doing actual research on Google was easier in 1998 to get relevant results.
@@user-dc9zo7ek5j I don’t think seo can truely be changed in a way that would stop the spam, sure the lack of adds and ai shit may be possible but the very nature of seo is exploitable
A lot blogs sites were pretty useful back in the day. What really ruined the web was the monetization of blogging as a space and the ever increasing need for people to feel the need to capitalize on their audience obtained through their blogs.
Look, mate, creators are entitled to compensation. You could serve ads on your blog, or ask for tips. You think people would tip you for writing creative and engaging articles? It's the same with open source projects. Everyone wants everything for free, and then complains when devs sell out or monetise. It's that kind of messed up attitude that made web 2.0 what it is.
@@klixikix "creators are entitled to compensation" Not entirely true. You're comparing apples to oranges. Content creators are NOT the same as an Open-source developer. The "messed up attitude" is people believing they deserve money for simply uploading something to the internet, regardless of quality or value.
@@klixikixthe problem is when profit becomes their priority. Many don't care about their content and shove to your face a "subscribe to my newsletter" pop-up and tons of ads before you even start reading.
@@klixikix "creators are entitled to compensation" lmao no they're not. You are part of the problem for believing this. People will say this and then the most substansial "content" they've "created" are reaction streams or daily 10 minute uploads of them recording themselves giving opinions nobody asked for about some current event or e-celeb drama between literally who 1 and literally who 2. I mean it when I tell these people to "get a real job".
@@gusslx Yes, I agree, and unfortunately what rises to the top is usually what can be monetised best. This problem can be solved with paywalls, but as I said - content consumers don't want to pay, so they turn to ad-supported garbage, and the current situation is the result. Just look at how upset some people get at the prospect of having to pay for the content they consume. It really speaks for itself.
Another problem is that when web pages have to be mobile-responsive, that can limit creativity. It sort of flattens out your options when it has to look presentable in several different orientations and aspect ratios.
If you're watching this video and feel nostalgic or miss individual websites, make one. There are tons of free hosts both with and without community features. HTML and CSS are super easy to pick up, and you can make your first site in an afternoon.
"when every site was unique" That's the problem with modern content creation: every genre has been tapped to death. So many gaming channels striving to be the next PewDiePie or Markiplier. So many tech channels trying to be the next LinusTechTips. Most people fail to realize the level of competition it takes to make it big on the internet. And when things don't go their way, they blame the audience.
Blogs didnt have to break the web The fact of the matter is Blogs are REALLY efficient for SEO (Search Engine Optimization), and they doubly work for luring people to click on Amazon Referal Links What actually killed the web was the greed of these blog sites trying to make a quick buck, and the centralization of the web, where 90% of every internet action takes place on Facebook, Google or Reddit. The ability to "Surf the web" is impossible these days. You are simply browsing a single website at this point.
@@iclonethefirst I dunno I find web hosting to be one of my more satisfying purchases. One of my main regrets is that 20 years ago I thought self hosting was a lot harder and more expensive than it is, or was even then, and so I settled for "free" options such as Geocities and later Wordpress. I'm much more at peace with paying for hosting than I am with paying for DRMed content.
One trend I saw emerging recently was the "digital gardens" thing. They closely resemble the early web, a sort of personal wiki put together with hyperlinks with a unique theme.
For as much as I dislike the whole "recommendation algorythm" thing I can think of no alternative. Reddit like up/downvotes suck, and some imageboard style system would crumble in a second if faced with the 30 thousand hours of video uploaded to RUclips every day. Not to mention that it sometimes does wonders: I sure as hell didn't know I wanted to watch and rewatch a one and a half hours long video about queues/lines, but RUclips surely did, and I enjoyed the heck outta it; a true timeless masterpiece.
The solution is decentralization (No. Not like crypto) Right now, every website is fighting to be "THE CENTER OF THE INTERNET". The idea of the "web-like" internet is dead. Back in the olden days of the internet, if you wanted to talk about Final Fantasy you went to a Final Fantasy Forum. If you wanted to talk about something specific, you went to a page specific for that, and often from that page you would find links to other similarly minded pages. These days, you just flip through reddit or some premade content feed. A Central Repository of all internet information There are no true "Gathering spaces for niches" anymore. Those have been taken up by Subredits, Facebook Groups, and Discord Channels. Not only that, much of the internet is borderline impossible to search through these days. With every Google search result being occupied by some "Search Engine Optimized" (SEO) trash trying to get you to spend money on Amazon referral links The old internet was a web of pages linking to other pages, the modern internet is "Come to my site, stay here, don't you move, don't you FUCKING move". Linking to other sources will often give a warning dissuading you from leaving, the exact opposite of the effect of "the Web" The web-like internet is dead.
I miss the days when websites were reasonably hosted in a simple Apache mod_userdir public_html folder on your ISP’s web server. Those really felt like simpler times. The 90s were really fun when all of this was all so new.
I wouldn't say home pages died with blogs but I get your point. It kind of reminds me of MySpace and that was basically how people made their home pages for a while. But when MySpace died there was nowhere to really migrate your homepage unless you were tech savvy and so home pages died once again.
I like your videos a lot, but this one seems to be a bit of an “old man screams at sky” rant to me. If I understood correctly, your main beefs are: 1. The internet being in chronological order. 2. Centralized platforms becoming the norm rather than personal sites. 3. The lack of customizability. About the first point, the amount of content simply grew. It's easy to maintain a non-chronological blog when you have 50 articles or something, but as you write more and create more, things eventually get out of control. And things need to be organized somehow. You have to choose a way to display information, what goes first and what goes later. And for most cases, a chronological order is good at that. It's a good way for people interested in reading what you post to find new content from you when they visit your profiles, and in life, yesterday goes before today and tomorrow comes after today. I sometimes come across these remaining web1 style websites where content isn't organized chronologically, and I just find it difficult and very disorientating to navigate because I can't find what the author posted recently. About the second point, yeah, it would be wonderful if everyone had their personal website, but many people don't have the technological knowledge to maintain a site. These centralized platforms allowed a huge number of people to join the web and share their thoughts, and this wouldn't have happened otherwise. About the third and last point, many sites from back in the day had terrible design, like blinking lights and background gifs. Designs that, honestly, sometimes even invaded your user experience, like a site automatically starting to play a song or using some flashy lights. Hell, if you really go far enough, you could even consider that “oh, in the good old days, there was no CSS, and the internet should be just command line that people access through curl.” I'm not saying that the modern web with clean white/dark design is perfect or that it wouldn't be nice to have more customization options, but I also think people overestimate the importance of such customizability. If anything, the fact you need to download 20MB of javascript to load twitter or whatever, piss me off an infinite amount of times MORE than the lack of customizability element in itself . It's like those people saying “Well, on Linux I can have a totally unique graphical interface tailored to my needs” and most people are simply fine with the default Windows/Mac/Chrome OS graphical user interface. A lot of things ruined the web, but I don't think any of them is what you mention in this video.
The first time I heard of a “weblog” was in the early 2000s in a MacAddict magazine article where they interviewed Wil Wheaton and they showed how to turn your Mac into a web server like Wil did! After getting everything up and running locally, I discovered I had nothing to say. Good times! 😂
Agreed. Wikipedia, research papers, and RUclips accounted for 80-90% of my internet usage, the rest 10% is scrapping through the web for some obscure things-of-interest. My introverted personality is naturally incompatible with social medias.
I have a website written in HTML and CSS, I'm learning backend to make upload contents easier instead of editing the HTML directly. And I do it because it feels good to see your hard work just...works.
To quote from someone I recently heard, RUclips, and the modern internet these days, is just a machine you going to have to keep on feeding it to stay alive and relevant. What's worse is the effects it's done to people, more and more are chasing quantity, over quality, for reasons like clout, and algorithm relevancy. Even to journalism it has affected, title and content has been designed to be over-the-top in the internal A-B testing, to generate higher average interactions.
But when does adversary effect on consumers, and people, ever stop capitalism anyway? At some point, some will realized that you really can't stay relevant forever, much like once you're dead, unless you've achieved a world-changing event that will alter history forever, most probably won't be remembered for too much generations, let alone society at large. In that case, the recency-bias in the algorithm is only a mere distraction that you can choose to avoid by stop being psychologically-dependent on it. Use it just enough to gain the value out of it, be it educational, or entertainment, but be aware not to get too addicted to it.
I only got the tail end of that old school internet, totally miss it. Although, the encyclopedia stuff stuck around... It just mutated into wikis. Which are great and accomplish a lot of the cool things that blogs don't. But of course they have problems. Would love to see a concise history of the wiki and it's effects on Internet culture. I'm glad I came across your channel, always nice to find a good creator amidst the slurry.
2:54 How is not having tools that get stuff done quicker, better and easier than having them. Nowadays, you can still just create your own website in one html file in Notepad. Things have only gotten easier and more intuitive. No more vi just simple Visual Studio Code. The HTML basics that you are describing also haven't really changed.
Finally someone put put fitting words to "my problem with blogs". I was very confused using wordpress for a long time because I expected it to work like a "homepage", with an index or menu for sorting. To this day I think it's a pretty stupid way to do websites... but here we are. A semi-random flow of information. Hard to search, hard to find anything and with the #enshittification of search engines ... impossible to find anything.
Interesting history! I still go back to some old blogs, like Coding Horror I wonder if the development of the web forum may have had some influence as well?
Interesting topic. I found out that I'm actually quite unhappy about my blog. Once it has like 45 pages that are kind of divided into series (which was not obvious when I started it), it became hard to navigate through pages and topics are intermixed, joined together mostly by tags. But no one can randomly find other topics and it's boring. Hell, I remember time where whole Czech internet had like 3 catalogs and created basically small random wiki with awkward topics such as ... let's say research of interesting chemicals for one reason or another, demo scene and programming. But that changed very rapidly. Some catalogs disappeared, major one turned into news server, mail server and great map server that is and always was above google maps for anything, but shopping and car navigation.
i was a little irritated by the video at first but then it made sense as time went on. great video, I keep forgetting how much WordPress impacted everything
Imagine a world in which recommendation algorithms are decoupled from the companies that store those videos or content, meaning it's more modular and you can choose and swap between open-source recommendation algorithms written by third parties or maybe just some single person in their bedroom. You could even have different algorithms for different purposes working with the same content: one that shows the recent most flashy content, one that shows obscure but 'timeless classic' type content. I guess RUclips is already trying something with the 'New to you' section, but that section is pretty bad imo. This is the type of radical ideas that they won't tell you about! I hope my future social score will not be negatively impacted by this comment!
websites still going strong, my only social presence is my webpage and I still get a good amount of interaction, I think the only caveat is that monetizing requires being way more creative than with youtube, especially with personal ones like mine. tho, it's still niche, but the amount of people that are in these circles is probably more than it was back in the day, at least in numbers. can't post links here but it's in my bio
I also built a website when I was around 10 years old, give or take. But mine was based on Super Mario World. Then I gave up (which I shouldn't) because it was too hard to make a good looking site. After that, I would only touch HTML again in a web dev course not to long ago, at 30.
that's why i love tumblr. it has the best ui. most of the blogs i follow has pinned post like an index. domain, tags and archive feature makes it so great. it's my fav platform but sadly they don't have a lot of users compared to other social media platforms.
Really interesting perspective, but I think it has a lot of credibility. The "feed" style webpages are definitely an artifact of wordpress and blog-styled websites, and there's no real reason this should have become the standard. I think the death of internet message boards/forums was caused social media, however. 15 years ago, if you wanted to read or discuss movies, the best place was the imdb message board, hands down, bar none......reddit and discord cannot even possibly compare, they're an absolute joke, and if anyone thinks they are a subsitute, they're low IQ and incorrect.
Why'd I get nostalgic for this even though I first visited the web in 2008. But yes. Im so happy im not the only one who hates all these creativity limiters.
it's just a natural consequence of the number of people using the Internet growing and the amount of information starting to pile up. which is sad tbh.
2 things I literally hate searching for any recipe, its 80% ME AND MY GRANDMA MADE THIS, and seo garbage I don't care, I just want to make patato pancakes and its all cookie cutter sites, its insane. Ad after affiliated link a true distopian nightmare. Second. Gemini capsules should of taken off and I wish they did.
Interesting take, I think this is a small peice of the puzzle but nowhere near the full picture of what caused the centralized web. I certainly think that’s part of it considering that this was sort of the seed for MySpace and Facebook. But that’s like saying message boards killed the internet bc they created Reddit and Twitter, I do think that the iPhone was the true catalyst of current centralized web. But I can see how blogs somewhat laid a foundation for modern social media
to me, not that anyone asked, this sort of individualised internet should return to a mostly niche platform. consider places like tumblr who still keep it alive, while it is certainly watched over outwardly and frequently, those who actually decide to return to that way of living is still a small amount. if you want to go the whole way further and make a neocities now, it has to be traded and shared around, to turn it back into a community. reminds me of an old adage i heard a while back, "it's free to be just someone, but expensive to be yourself."
The blogs, yes. I also think ecommerce plays a massive part in ruining the internet.All the garbage click farming, keyword stuffing, now AI and previously cheap Indian guy generated meaningless slop, just to rank affiliate links or your own store on search engines.
0:29 What happened? Srsly? 0:43 I wonder if it's cause people got anoyyed with them cause they wasted their blogs lamenting? No that doesn't make a lick of sense 0:57 Same... I don't get what the hate's for... didn't even know there was any hate actually, kinda got swept by my emotions again agreeing with something I don't understand just to feel connected or something, I hate it, cause I don't even truly care if people got a problem with Nintendo kids... 1:54 FR? Oh right 2:57 Forgot that's where the word blog came from... their reputation has been so stained by Oh damn! What the fuck happened? 4:18 Nice! 4:49 Now we just need to... 4:52 Oh that's the old paradigm? Seriously? 5:06 Fair... 5:23 Yes, the old shit is forgotten as though it were just a simple trend... I say, going off of my experience 5:38 Lol 6:16 Oh 7:46 Rip!!! RUclips really had it coming with those news corporations huh? 8:04 I never knew that! 8:18 Home pages disappeared... 8:35 Dang I miss that... 8:57 Tricky... 9:399:52 Rip interesting blogs... 10:20 Table of contents 10:42 Yeah sunk cost fallacy is pretty applicable with blogs True 11:23 FR 11:4311:52 Annoying as hell! 12:09 Yeah I think how corporations handled the internet is to blame... not commodification, also, damn, I wasn't allowed to use the internet before 2012 cause mah parents... 12:3113:08
bro I love your content but this time I have to downvote, sorry. web2.0 (when users have the power to create content) make databases to have limit, php was born to give power to the people to write code easier than C. yeah wordpress appeared but it is what it is, right? I don't think blogs ruin the web, I think we can not have nice things because it in our nature to break and to corrupt everything. btw, changing the downvote to up cuz it was a nice video in the end
It's also the aesthetic conformity that ruined the web. I absolutely flipping loathe how EVERYTHING is flat, there's no variation, no texture to the UI. I miss when UI themes from the Windows XP days where it was more than just the color you could change, hell, you could make windows that werent even boxes.
The fancy over-customisation was hell on screen readers and accessibility tools though. Not that today's 'responsive' web design is any better - a simple dynamic layout is just as screwed up. There just aren't enough visually impaired people for them to be a demographic worth catering for.
Interesting take, but ultimately all nostalgia for “a better internet” is subjective. The phrase Eternal September dates back to 1993. What if Usenet never gave so much access to new users? Maybe the internet would be better then!
i think social media was the logical path for the internet. Its almost as if it was boubt to happen. If u think about it social media was just made to share things with your friends and communicate, nothing wrong with that. Internet went downhill as soon as people started getting infinite content and algorithms
Hosting a website can be a bit janky to set up, so the appeal of website hosts are definitely justified, but it should've stopped from there. I think JavaScript was another thing ruining the web because it made creating garbage way too easy lol I remain to make my website both modern and stand out.
who knows, maybe the alternative way of the web would be even scarier 💀 you decide, what services you use, what you look for and how you even use the web is there any people who uses global web with their own servers, own traces and routes? or it is still just geeks, like in 90s and 00s? "surface" web with all its shit like tiktok and facebook is modern curse, but it is how it always be in every complex system parasites must exist.
SEO ruined the internet, specifically Google
I disagree, SEO is helpful for the users, and all optimizations aim to provide the crawler and indexer with a lot more information so that the user can receive the best content they can. I remember a year or two some websites broke the algorhythm with a lot of articles that contained a question + the year + a lot of topics into a single page. If SEO wasn't adjusted, then spammers would take over the first page of the search results. In general if SEO did not exist, you would have either: 1. links between websites or a website with a lot of links based on category, 2. no such centralization at all, just entering by address. Both of these seem inefficient for me.
corruption ruined the internet
@@user-dc9zo7ek5j Not really sure that is true. Now SEO is just up for straight up purchased by the highest bidder and the search engine that shows the results is owned by an effective monopoly.
There is a reason why you have to go to the 10th page of results to get anything that isn't a Reddit or Facebook post. Doing actual research on Google was easier in 1998 to get relevant results.
@@user-dc9zo7ek5j Nice try google
@@user-dc9zo7ek5j I don’t think seo can truely be changed in a way that would stop the spam, sure the lack of adds and ai shit may be possible but the very nature of seo is exploitable
"grown-up nintendo kid yells at cloud"
sorry I couldn't resist
A lot blogs sites were pretty useful back in the day. What really ruined the web was the monetization of blogging as a space and the ever increasing need for people to feel the need to capitalize on their audience obtained through their blogs.
Look, mate, creators are entitled to compensation. You could serve ads on your blog, or ask for tips. You think people would tip you for writing creative and engaging articles? It's the same with open source projects. Everyone wants everything for free, and then complains when devs sell out or monetise. It's that kind of messed up attitude that made web 2.0 what it is.
@@klixikix "creators are entitled to compensation" Not entirely true. You're comparing apples to oranges. Content creators are NOT the same as an Open-source developer. The "messed up attitude" is people believing they deserve money for simply uploading something to the internet, regardless of quality or value.
@@klixikixthe problem is when profit becomes their priority. Many don't care about their content and shove to your face a "subscribe to my newsletter" pop-up and tons of ads before you even start reading.
@@klixikix "creators are entitled to compensation" lmao no they're not. You are part of the problem for believing this. People will say this and then the most substansial "content" they've "created" are reaction streams or daily 10 minute uploads of them recording themselves giving opinions nobody asked for about some current event or e-celeb drama between literally who 1 and literally who 2. I mean it when I tell these people to "get a real job".
@@gusslx Yes, I agree, and unfortunately what rises to the top is usually what can be monetised best. This problem can be solved with paywalls, but as I said - content consumers don't want to pay, so they turn to ad-supported garbage, and the current situation is the result. Just look at how upset some people get at the prospect of having to pay for the content they consume. It really speaks for itself.
Bro someone should rehost all the geocities sites
I miss them
@@EricMurphyxyzthose where the good days
embrace neocities
@@Chat_De_Ratatoingyeah, isn’t that was neocities was for?
I have a domain which i could use for that.
Another problem is that when web pages have to be mobile-responsive, that can limit creativity. It sort of flattens out your options when it has to look presentable in several different orientations and aspect ratios.
But its much more convenient to open a page on your phone though
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@@RandomGeometryDashStuff for blogs is just easier to read a blog
This approach easiest with a team
You can still be creative, but need css wizard skills to accommodate different breakpoints etc.
If you're watching this video and feel nostalgic or miss individual websites, make one. There are tons of free hosts both with and without community features. HTML and CSS are super easy to pick up, and you can make your first site in an afternoon.
Huh... I did not expect blogging to ruin the web, but men, I miss those days, when every site was unique!
Thanks for the video!
"when every site was unique" That's the problem with modern content creation: every genre has been tapped to death. So many gaming channels striving to be the next PewDiePie or Markiplier. So many tech channels trying to be the next LinusTechTips. Most people fail to realize the level of competition it takes to make it big on the internet. And when things don't go their way, they blame the audience.
Blogs didnt have to break the web
The fact of the matter is Blogs are REALLY efficient for SEO (Search Engine Optimization), and they doubly work for luring people to click on Amazon Referal Links
What actually killed the web was the greed of these blog sites trying to make a quick buck, and the centralization of the web, where 90% of every internet action takes place on Facebook, Google or Reddit. The ability to "Surf the web" is impossible these days. You are simply browsing a single website at this point.
Yeah, once the marketers discovered how to game SEO it was over
Also no one wants to pay for web hosting space. Everybody expects everything for free and ignoring that they pay with their data
@@iclonethefirst I dunno I find web hosting to be one of my more satisfying purchases. One of my main regrets is that 20 years ago I thought self hosting was a lot harder and more expensive than it is, or was even then, and so I settled for "free" options such as Geocities and later Wordpress. I'm much more at peace with paying for hosting than I am with paying for DRMed content.
One trend I saw emerging recently was the "digital gardens" thing. They closely resemble the early web, a sort of personal wiki put together with hyperlinks with a unique theme.
Interesting, it’s kinda sad that they have to slap a trendy new label on it but hopefully it will go somewhere
For as much as I dislike the whole "recommendation algorythm" thing I can think of no alternative. Reddit like up/downvotes suck, and some imageboard style system would crumble in a second if faced with the 30 thousand hours of video uploaded to RUclips every day. Not to mention that it sometimes does wonders: I sure as hell didn't know I wanted to watch and rewatch a one and a half hours long video about queues/lines, but RUclips surely did, and I enjoyed the heck outta it; a true timeless masterpiece.
The solution is decentralization (No. Not like crypto)
Right now, every website is fighting to be "THE CENTER OF THE INTERNET". The idea of the "web-like" internet is dead.
Back in the olden days of the internet, if you wanted to talk about Final Fantasy you went to a Final Fantasy Forum.
If you wanted to talk about something specific, you went to a page specific for that, and often from that page you would find links to other similarly minded pages.
These days, you just flip through reddit or some premade content feed. A Central Repository of all internet information
There are no true "Gathering spaces for niches" anymore. Those have been taken up by Subredits, Facebook Groups, and Discord Channels.
Not only that, much of the internet is borderline impossible to search through these days.
With every Google search result being occupied by some "Search Engine Optimized" (SEO) trash trying to get you to spend money on Amazon referral links
The old internet was a web of pages linking to other pages, the modern internet is "Come to my site, stay here, don't you move, don't you FUCKING move". Linking to other sources will often give a warning dissuading you from leaving, the exact opposite of the effect of "the Web"
The web-like internet is dead.
Was it the defunctland one about Fastpass?
@@bc-cu4on yep, this one.
The subscriptions page on RUclips exists, I have recommendations disabled and I'm doing just fine.
It is getting rare to have a genuine youtuber with his own ideas anymore. Keep doing your thing!
I miss the days when websites were reasonably hosted in a simple Apache mod_userdir public_html folder on your ISP’s web server. Those really felt like simpler times. The 90s were really fun when all of this was all so new.
I wouldn't say home pages died with blogs but I get your point. It kind of reminds me of MySpace and that was basically how people made their home pages for a while. But when MySpace died there was nowhere to really migrate your homepage unless you were tech savvy and so home pages died once again.
I like your videos a lot, but this one seems to be a bit of an “old man screams at sky” rant to me. If I understood correctly, your main beefs are:
1. The internet being in chronological order.
2. Centralized platforms becoming the norm rather than personal sites.
3. The lack of customizability.
About the first point, the amount of content simply grew. It's easy to maintain a non-chronological blog when you have 50 articles or something, but as you write more and create more, things eventually get out of control. And things need to be organized somehow. You have to choose a way to display information, what goes first and what goes later. And for most cases, a chronological order is good at that. It's a good way for people interested in reading what you post to find new content from you when they visit your profiles, and in life, yesterday goes before today and tomorrow comes after today. I sometimes come across these remaining web1 style websites where content isn't organized chronologically, and I just find it difficult and very disorientating to navigate because I can't find what the author posted recently.
About the second point, yeah, it would be wonderful if everyone had their personal website, but many people don't have the technological knowledge to maintain a site. These centralized platforms allowed a huge number of people to join the web and share their thoughts, and this wouldn't have happened otherwise.
About the third and last point, many sites from back in the day had terrible design, like blinking lights and background gifs. Designs that, honestly, sometimes even invaded your user experience, like a site automatically starting to play a song or using some flashy lights. Hell, if you really go far enough, you could even consider that “oh, in the good old days, there was no CSS, and the internet should be just command line that people access through curl.” I'm not saying that the modern web with clean white/dark design is perfect or that it wouldn't be nice to have more customization options, but I also think people overestimate the importance of such customizability.
If anything, the fact you need to download 20MB of javascript to load twitter or whatever, piss me off an infinite amount of times MORE than the lack of customizability element in itself . It's like those people saying “Well, on Linux I can have a totally unique graphical interface tailored to my needs” and most people are simply fine with the default Windows/Mac/Chrome OS graphical user interface.
A lot of things ruined the web, but I don't think any of them is what you mention in this video.
Forgot to mention that information gets stale quickly unless it's related to academics.
I miss the old Internet it felt like the Internet was magical back then
The first time I heard of a “weblog” was in the early 2000s in a MacAddict magazine article where they interviewed Wil Wheaton and they showed how to turn your Mac into a web server like Wil did! After getting everything up and running locally, I discovered I had nothing to say. Good times! 😂
me reading documentation of programming tools and Wikipedia.... why does this old internet sound so familiar
Agreed. Wikipedia, research papers, and RUclips accounted for 80-90% of my internet usage, the rest 10% is scrapping through the web for some obscure things-of-interest. My introverted personality is naturally incompatible with social medias.
Take me back 25 years man 💔
I like this style of video, and it works when looking at the views of your thinkpad video. Thanks for the quality content
I have a website written in HTML and CSS, I'm learning backend to make upload contents easier instead of editing the HTML directly. And I do it because it feels good to see your hard work just...works.
First video that I've been interested to watch in awhile, thanks for the watch
that cigar website looks like a quality and timeless website to be fair to geocities.
To quote from someone I recently heard, RUclips, and the modern internet these days, is just a machine you going to have to keep on feeding it to stay alive and relevant.
What's worse is the effects it's done to people, more and more are chasing quantity, over quality, for reasons like clout, and algorithm relevancy. Even to journalism it has affected, title and content has been designed to be over-the-top in the internal A-B testing, to generate higher average interactions.
But when does adversary effect on consumers, and people, ever stop capitalism anyway?
At some point, some will realized that you really can't stay relevant forever, much like once you're dead, unless you've achieved a world-changing event that will alter history forever, most probably won't be remembered for too much generations, let alone society at large.
In that case, the recency-bias in the algorithm is only a mere distraction that you can choose to avoid by stop being psychologically-dependent on it. Use it just enough to gain the value out of it, be it educational, or entertainment, but be aware not to get too addicted to it.
I only got the tail end of that old school internet, totally miss it. Although, the encyclopedia stuff stuck around... It just mutated into wikis. Which are great and accomplish a lot of the cool things that blogs don't. But of course they have problems.
Would love to see a concise history of the wiki and it's effects on Internet culture. I'm glad I came across your channel, always nice to find a good creator amidst the slurry.
bro for real thanks for everything your the goat, without your channel i would probably abandoned my online privacy
Came for the polybar configs, stayed for the video essays
2:54 How is not having tools that get stuff done quicker, better and easier than having them. Nowadays, you can still just create your own website in one html file in Notepad. Things have only gotten easier and more intuitive. No more vi just simple Visual Studio Code. The HTML basics that you are describing also haven't really changed.
Finally someone put put fitting words to "my problem with blogs".
I was very confused using wordpress for a long time because I expected it to work like a "homepage", with an index or menu for sorting.
To this day I think it's a pretty stupid way to do websites... but here we are.
A semi-random flow of information.
Hard to search, hard to find anything and with the #enshittification of search engines ... impossible to find anything.
Man you are the only person who i enabled the notification for it.
I was never there, but i yearn for the early, simpler, more personal internet. Forget monetisation, that is the root of all problems.
Interesting history! I still go back to some old blogs, like Coding Horror
I wonder if the development of the web forum may have had some influence as well?
Interesting topic. I found out that I'm actually quite unhappy about my blog. Once it has like 45 pages that are kind of divided into series (which was not obvious when I started it), it became hard to navigate through pages and topics are intermixed, joined together mostly by tags. But no one can randomly find other topics and it's boring.
Hell, I remember time where whole Czech internet had like 3 catalogs and created basically small random wiki with awkward topics such as ... let's say research of interesting chemicals for one reason or another, demo scene and programming. But that changed very rapidly. Some catalogs disappeared, major one turned into news server, mail server and great map server that is and always was above google maps for anything, but shopping and car navigation.
No background music, or flashy edits. Just a dude talking. This is nice
And no asking to like, comment and subscribe.
i was a little irritated by the video at first but then it made sense as time went on. great video, I keep forgetting how much WordPress impacted everything
Imagine a world in which recommendation algorithms are decoupled from the companies that store those videos or content, meaning it's more modular and you can choose and swap between open-source recommendation algorithms written by third parties or maybe just some single person in their bedroom.
You could even have different algorithms for different purposes working with the same content: one that shows the recent most flashy content, one that shows obscure but 'timeless classic' type content. I guess RUclips is already trying something with the 'New to you' section, but that section is pretty bad imo.
This is the type of radical ideas that they won't tell you about! I hope my future social score will not be negatively impacted by this comment!
websites still going strong, my only social presence is my webpage and I still get a good amount of interaction, I think the only caveat is that monetizing requires being way more creative than with youtube, especially with personal ones like mine. tho, it's still niche, but the amount of people that are in these circles is probably more than it was back in the day, at least in numbers.
can't post links here but it's in my bio
I want to add more stuff to my homepage... but idk what to share
i still maintain my own site with just pure html, css, and vanilla JS lol. it's just more fun that way.
First blogs and later react devs destroyed what was a cool experience back in the day.
I also built a website when I was around 10 years old, give or take. But mine was based on Super Mario World. Then I gave up (which I shouldn't) because it was too hard to make a good looking site.
After that, I would only touch HTML again in a web dev course not to long ago, at 30.
Right now, websites are platforms which HAVE content. Back in the the day the sites WERE the content...
best tech youtuber i have ever seen
that's why i love tumblr. it has the best ui. most of the blogs i follow has pinned post like an index. domain, tags and archive feature makes it so great. it's my fav platform but sadly they don't have a lot of users compared to other social media platforms.
Really interesting perspective, but I think it has a lot of credibility. The "feed" style webpages are definitely an artifact of wordpress and blog-styled websites, and there's no real reason this should have become the standard. I think the death of internet message boards/forums was caused social media, however. 15 years ago, if you wanted to read or discuss movies, the best place was the imdb message board, hands down, bar none......reddit and discord cannot even possibly compare, they're an absolute joke, and if anyone thinks they are a subsitute, they're low IQ and incorrect.
so many uploads recently wow
Back on that content grind
@@EricMurphyxyz nice but just remember your own video about being online
Why'd I get nostalgic for this even though I first visited the web in 2008.
But yes. Im so happy im not the only one who hates all these creativity limiters.
0:00 how mom thinks what the internet looks like
it's just a natural consequence of the number of people using the Internet growing and the amount of information starting to pile up. which is sad tbh.
2 things
I literally hate searching for any recipe, its 80% ME AND MY GRANDMA MADE THIS, and seo garbage
I don't care, I just want to make patato pancakes and its all cookie cutter sites, its insane.
Ad after affiliated link a true distopian nightmare.
Second.
Gemini capsules should of taken off and I wish they did.
is what comes with mass adoption of anything , and the masses are dumb
0:03 bro did u turn indian for a sec there ?
😁
Make videos for/on windows pls
right on point we all just need some grass at this point
I still find some nice homepage sites, and I love them, always have been... If anyone has more libraries of such nice old sites, please share ❤
„Blogs have destroyed the internet“
*Uploads to youtube*
Congrats, your comment is equivalent to the "We should improve society somewhat" comic
@@RadikAlice h no the twitter marxists found be. How dare I pointing out contradictions lol
SEO and doomscrolling content are the worst part of the internet now.
Its all just money-grubbing brainrot at this point.
bring back the BBS. Ain't nothing like a good message board
Nice video, I sent you this kofi thing :)
Thanks, really appreciate the support!
I love your videos
Interesting take, I think this is a small peice of the puzzle but nowhere near the full picture of what caused the centralized web.
I certainly think that’s part of it considering that this was sort of the seed for MySpace and Facebook. But that’s like saying message boards killed the internet bc they created Reddit and Twitter, I do think that the iPhone was the true catalyst of current centralized web. But I can see how blogs somewhat laid a foundation for modern social media
to me, not that anyone asked, this sort of individualised internet should return to a mostly niche platform. consider places like tumblr who still keep it alive, while it is certainly watched over outwardly and frequently, those who actually decide to return to that way of living is still a small amount. if you want to go the whole way further and make a neocities now, it has to be traded and shared around, to turn it back into a community. reminds me of an old adage i heard a while back, "it's free to be just someone, but expensive to be yourself."
Eric Murphy try not to make good takes challenge: Impossible Challenge.
Upload more Murphy
"ssshhhhh!!! Eric posted a new video."
An alternative way was never an option. People are still people
I miss when the internet was the wild west...
Back in my day
bold statement
not this one tho 0:37
You know I'm always bringing the hot takes
Interesting video.
Next video "how Eric Murphy ruined my youtube discipline streak"
The problem is every human wants a quick buck.
I still read
The blogs, yes. I also think ecommerce plays a massive part in ruining the internet.All the garbage click farming, keyword stuffing, now AI and previously cheap Indian guy generated meaningless slop, just to rank affiliate links or your own store on search engines.
Dark web blog sites are cool
0:29 What happened?
Srsly? 0:43
I wonder if it's cause people got anoyyed with them cause they wasted their blogs lamenting? No that doesn't make a lick of sense 0:57
Same... I don't get what the hate's for... didn't even know there was any hate actually, kinda got swept by my emotions again agreeing with something I don't understand just to feel connected or something, I hate it, cause I don't even truly care if people got a problem with Nintendo kids... 1:54
FR? Oh right 2:57
Forgot that's where the word blog came from... their reputation has been so stained by
Oh damn! What the fuck happened? 4:18
Nice! 4:49
Now we just need to... 4:52
Oh that's the old paradigm? Seriously? 5:06
Fair... 5:23
Yes, the old shit is forgotten as though it were just a simple trend... I say, going off of my experience 5:38
Lol 6:16
Oh 7:46
Rip!!! RUclips really had it coming with those news corporations huh? 8:04
I never knew that! 8:18
Home pages disappeared... 8:35
Dang I miss that... 8:57
Tricky... 9:39 9:52
Rip interesting blogs... 10:20
Table of contents 10:42
Yeah sunk cost fallacy is pretty applicable with blogs
True 11:23
FR 11:43 11:52 Annoying as hell! 12:09
Yeah I think how corporations handled the internet is to blame... not commodification, also, damn, I wasn't allowed to use the internet before 2012 cause mah parents... 12:31 13:08
youre at 69.4k subs OMG
I have a website. I just simplified it because most visitors use smartphones.
I guess you never played Runescape.
But your own website is a blog too?
bro I love your content but this time I have to downvote, sorry.
web2.0 (when users have the power to create content) make databases to have limit, php was born to give power to the people to write code easier than C. yeah wordpress appeared but it is what it is, right?
I don't think blogs ruin the web, I think we can not have nice things because it in our nature to break and to corrupt everything.
btw, changing the downvote to up cuz it was a nice video in the end
i will save the web
So sad :(
Certainly a future with far less mental health issues.
The irony of someone with _that_ profile picture saying this. Comedy writes itself sometimes
@@RadikAlice uhm... ok... I guess
It's also the aesthetic conformity that ruined the web. I absolutely flipping loathe how EVERYTHING is flat, there's no variation, no texture to the UI. I miss when UI themes from the Windows XP days where it was more than just the color you could change, hell, you could make windows that werent even boxes.
The fancy over-customisation was hell on screen readers and accessibility tools though. Not that today's 'responsive' web design is any better - a simple dynamic layout is just as screwed up. There just aren't enough visually impaired people for them to be a demographic worth catering for.
Interesting take, but ultimately all nostalgia for “a better internet” is subjective. The phrase Eternal September dates back to 1993. What if Usenet never gave so much access to new users? Maybe the internet would be better then!
This is just nostalgia *erking
True
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Social media platforms and their algorythms are the pits. It's so bad they're feeding you content you aren't even subscribed to anymore.
So blogs ruined the internet, but the first thing on your page's nav bar is a BLOG? Welcome to yet another episode of Eric's hypocrisy.
It's not hypocritical at all.
i can still criticise hamburger helper and eat it too, relax
@@kuwandak how is it not, he's complaining about something while doing it himself.
i know i was thinking the same thing i guess he should have at least mention it in the video or pin comment that he himself has it on his website.
The main argumen for the title is only 2 minutes of the video. This video could be just a 5 minutes one.
Blogging didn't ruin the web. It was corporations trying to turn a profit.
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Meh, eric I'm not much younger than you and use glorious Fedora Linux but honestly it's hard to disagree with you on this stuff.
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i think social media was the logical path for the internet. Its almost as if it was boubt to happen.
If u think about it social media was just made to share things with your friends and communicate, nothing wrong with that.
Internet went downhill as soon as people started getting infinite content and algorithms
Hosting a website can be a bit janky to set up, so the appeal of website hosts are definitely justified, but it should've stopped from there. I think JavaScript was another thing ruining the web because it made creating garbage way too easy lol
I remain to make my website both modern and stand out.
who knows, maybe the alternative way of the web would be even scarier 💀
you decide, what services you use, what you look for and how you even use the web
is there any people who uses global web with their own servers, own traces and routes? or it is still just geeks, like in 90s and 00s?
"surface" web with all its shit like tiktok and facebook is modern curse, but it is how it always be in every complex system
parasites must exist.
Tumblr.
bro you're just old, get with the times, tik tok is the future of development
It's crazy how everything bad in this world millennials are the ppl responsible for it lmao