No tubeless tyres, no cruise control, the next upgrade will probably give more colours, no traction control, messing with quick shift direction, luggage should be optional, needs bigger tank capacity instead of having to pay for after market. If they missed the extra stuff off it would be more appealing in the 9k range, no screen mirror. Why do I say it? Well Himalayan have done it all on a 450cc bike for £6000.
A good looking bike allegedly built for off road but everyone pays £10k then replaces everything to make it usable off road. If Yamaha built it right in the first place also put tubeless on the explore instead of slap dash extras it would get more respect from purchasers. And why one colour when the panel are the same as all the rest
It’s amazing. I did the Yamaha Experience day on one a few weeks back. But getting off my Street Triple and then heading out on a road on one of these it felt baggy and gutless. Amazing fun off road and would love one if I lived in the sticks but for touring I’d rather have a Tracer 9.
To merit the Explore moniker I think it needs the world raid tanks, cruise control, tubeless tyres, option on seats (tall comfort seat for example) And better wind protection, of course that should be reflected in the price.
I don't really need the cruise control but god... What i really need is tubeless tyres. Especially on this explore model where i expect 75% ride on road and 25% in very light terrein.
I've been wanting a T7 for a while... But every time I come back from an epic ride on my Yamaha XT250, I am reminded that I simply wouldn't be able to do the same on T7 (at least with my current size and skill level). And if I can't go too far offroad on it, then it would be mostly used on paved roads, gravel and light offroad trails... at which point I wonder if I need a T7 for that? Anyway, a great bike!
The logic I use: Baseline is 17/17 wheels naked sports bikes. For pavement, and occasional dirt road but mostly avoided. 17/17 bikes on stilts, for better comfort, longer journeys, and a bit more ground clearance for leg room and less risk of smacking a tall object on the ground for the occasional dirt. Flickability is lost due to tall suspension and CG is higher. 17/19 bikes on stilts, for all the same, plus more bumpy and cut up off-paved roads and trails. Emphasis is more paved than not. Tire options open up for knobby stuff. 18/21 bikes on stilts, for destinations and areas purposely unpaved, and using the bike's travel and utility abilities to haul gear to get there. Emphasis is more unpaved than paved.
Presume the handling is better! The original does suffer slightly from the feeling of having to manhandle that big front wheel thru the twisties. Any improvement?
Why is is that sooooo many reviewers only give their overall height when talking about seat height and screen height.....we need to also know the inseam length too.
I am not sure if its really saving you money to buy the explore instead of the standard t7 and upgrade it yourself considering that you can sell your original seat, windshield and shifter. However it will save you some hassle..
Since I'd never venture worse than gravel, prepped roads, or trails that are rather smooth, I'd probably lean more toward a machine with is 75% focused for paved journeying. V-Strom 800 (cast wheels), Triumph Tiger 900GT, Ducati Multistrada V2 S, BMW F800GS, or the like. Basically something with 19-inch front wheel, more road-oriented amenities, sub-1000cc and more power than the 650-690 class offers. Suzuki probably fits that bill better than all the rest for stone-axe reliability and enough simplicity.
I am waiting for 1, it should arrive in July but as I am living in Malta I will only be sure the day that it arrives. I`m riding a Himalayan now and every time I saw a Teneree it made my heart beat a little higher so last month I finally made the decission to order one
Same place as the XT250, FJR1300 ES, and V-Star 250. Honestly, by now the SuperTenere would have to have a complete redesign (ie. new engine) due to Euro5, as it only exists as grandfathered into the Euro5 standards currently. Yay regulations. 🙄
Admittedly, the T7 doesn't really interest me, it's that versatile motor that has been put into so many platforms that I admire, but it's about time that there was an update to fly-by-wire now, suddenly there'll be the option of cruise control and a bi-directional quick shifter. By the way, that vaj jacket....who doesn't want to make themselves comfortable in some vaj😂. Clearly, you couldn't resist, Bob.
Explore touring bike with no cruise control in 2024? I am still seeing T7 with scratches on swingarm from this ridiculous exhaust hanging idea, only after minor falls :/ 1. Fix the exhaust hanger / subframe issue 2. Add cruise Control for highway days And I think it will be a great bike.
Lack of cruise control is the smallest problem here. You have plank instead of seat, no TC, no QS (this is NOT QS what they offer), tube tires, heavy top bike. This is not bike for year 2024
Want a more road focused ADV with off-road ability but also has cruise control, lane change assist, rear collision warning and blind spot detection? Get a CFMoto 800MT. Also happens to be much cheaper than the Tenere.
Yamaha needs to stop fighting us and install tubeless wheels, a 16t countershaft as standard and a larger fuel tank. Krylon flat black paint isn't very appealing for a touring type machine. How about colors that inspire and not bottom of the shoe colors.
Cable throttle makes cruise a near impossibility, unless the company installed a stand-alone servo motor to tug on another cable turning the manual throttle plates. Otherwise, you need Yamaha to convert the MT-07, XSR700, Tracer 700, and Tenere T7 over to throttle-by-wire including all the usual complexities that come along with that sort of system (and competitors' amenity levels associated with it). It's not nearly as good, but consider an aftermarket throttle lock such as Atlas or Kaoko or Breakaway.
@@ThePresidentofMars It doesnt have TC. Only 3 modes for ABS. From what I know, you cant have Traction control system with cable operated throttle body.
Hold on…at 1:24…the LOUIS brands…did you slip in my favourite heavy rock band as a joke addition?! Or are AC/DC now actually doing bike merch?! In which case I’m on a Highway to Hell with Down Payment Blues but Back in Black!!
Yamaha’s colour schemes of late are poor. Most models have one or at most two colours, and many of them are crap looking. It’s mostly a small number of painted plastic panels so why not offer more colours for the price of a small car? Not sure what the market is for this bike - still very tall, barebones spec and missing the features a grand or two more will get you on its slightly more powerful competitors. The T was a bargain at under £8K but the price hikes has taken it into another group of bikes, and it’s looking poor value for money.
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No tubeless tyres, no cruise control, the next upgrade will probably give more colours, no traction control, messing with quick shift direction, luggage should be optional, needs bigger tank capacity instead of having to pay for after market. If they missed the extra stuff off it would be more appealing in the 9k range, no screen mirror. Why do I say it? Well Himalayan have done it all on a 450cc bike for £6000.
Spot on!!!!!
Couldn’t agree more, absolute rip off
A good looking bike allegedly built for off road but everyone pays £10k then replaces everything to make it usable off road. If Yamaha built it right in the first place also put tubeless on the explore instead of slap dash extras it would get more respect from purchasers. And why one colour when the panel are the same as all the rest
Actually no tubeless wheels and no traction control is a disaster on the road
@@max30888No trc a disaster on the road? 😂
I used the t7 Explore to go from Italy to Senegal through Morocco and Mauritania. Good bike for this kind of tours, never a problem.
It’s amazing. I did the Yamaha Experience day on one a few weeks back. But getting off my Street Triple and then heading out on a road on one of these it felt baggy and gutless. Amazing fun off road and would love one if I lived in the sticks but for touring I’d rather have a Tracer 9.
Would still choose Aprilia Tuareg 660😊
To merit the Explore moniker I think it needs the world raid tanks, cruise control, tubeless tyres, option on seats (tall comfort seat for example) And better wind protection, of course that should be reflected in the price.
I don't really need the cruise control but god... What i really need is tubeless tyres. Especially on this explore model where i expect 75% ride on road and 25% in very light terrein.
I've been wanting a T7 for a while... But every time I come back from an epic ride on my Yamaha XT250, I am reminded that I simply wouldn't be able to do the same on T7 (at least with my current size and skill level). And if I can't go too far offroad on it, then it would be mostly used on paved roads, gravel and light offroad trails... at which point I wonder if I need a T7 for that?
Anyway, a great bike!
The logic I use:
Baseline is 17/17 wheels naked sports bikes. For pavement, and occasional dirt road but mostly avoided.
17/17 bikes on stilts, for better comfort, longer journeys, and a bit more ground clearance for leg room and less risk of smacking a tall object on the ground for the occasional dirt. Flickability is lost due to tall suspension and CG is higher.
17/19 bikes on stilts, for all the same, plus more bumpy and cut up off-paved roads and trails. Emphasis is more paved than not. Tire options open up for knobby stuff.
18/21 bikes on stilts, for destinations and areas purposely unpaved, and using the bike's travel and utility abilities to haul gear to get there. Emphasis is more unpaved than paved.
I’m in the exact same quandary about upgrading to a bigger bike!
Was on my list but spent my money on the scrambler xe cruise control and tubeless won the day
Tour conclusion around 8m30s makes is what I expected. Nice but not yet the allrounder the KTM 790 is.
They have to go tubeless with some of these models, same with the Transalp. I think they would sell a lot more if they did.
Fully agree, I would love to get a Transalp but I don't want tubed tyres!
Fully agree. Would never buy another bIke with tubed tyres - 2 flats on an Africa Twin - never again
Presume the handling is better! The original does suffer slightly from the feeling of having to manhandle that big front wheel thru the twisties. Any improvement?
Still not gonna get me off my DR 650
DR is junk on the road .
From this viewers perspective, the lack of cruise control can only be a bonus - definition of getting old I guess…?
Great upload…🤙
Why is is that sooooo many reviewers only give their overall height when talking about seat height and screen height.....we need to also know the inseam length too.
I am not sure if its really saving you money to buy the explore instead of the standard t7 and upgrade it yourself considering that you can sell your original seat, windshield and shifter. However it will save you some hassle..
This is also buying only yamaha, i dont know how the racks work but i wouldnt be suprised if they only work with yamaha boxes
My dream bike
No tubeless wheels,no traction control is a disaster on the road not explorer ..
Since I'd never venture worse than gravel, prepped roads, or trails that are rather smooth, I'd probably lean more toward a machine with is 75% focused for paved journeying. V-Strom 800 (cast wheels), Triumph Tiger 900GT, Ducati Multistrada V2 S, BMW F800GS, or the like. Basically something with 19-inch front wheel, more road-oriented amenities, sub-1000cc and more power than the 650-690 class offers. Suzuki probably fits that bill better than all the rest for stone-axe reliability and enough simplicity.
i'm with you brother..prob the vstrom 800 RE😊
@@AndyPat239 US version is simply "V-Strom 800", but it's the same model.
I want a tenere so bad 😂 especially for winter
I am waiting for 1, it should arrive in July but as I am living in Malta I will only be sure the day that it arrives. I`m riding a Himalayan now and every time I saw a Teneree it made my heart beat a little higher so last month I finally made the decission to order one
@destickert1307 that's brilliant! I hope it turns up on time and you have lots of fun on it 😁👍
Good bike.. good looking..
Best? I think the Tuareg would like to have a word with you.
What about matching locks on the hard bags. We have issues getting them in USA
where is the new Super Tenere?????
Same place as the XT250, FJR1300 ES, and V-Star 250.
Honestly, by now the SuperTenere would have to have a complete redesign (ie. new engine) due to Euro5, as it only exists as grandfathered into the Euro5 standards currently. Yay regulations. 🙄
It would be nice if you did the 7gt next I would like your report on this bike
Admittedly, the T7 doesn't really interest me, it's that versatile motor that has been put into so many platforms that I admire, but it's about time that there was an update to fly-by-wire now, suddenly there'll be the option of cruise control and a bi-directional quick shifter.
By the way, that vaj jacket....who doesn't want to make themselves comfortable in some vaj😂. Clearly, you couldn't resist, Bob.
I hate that longitudinal tft screen. It's irritating.
Explore touring bike with no cruise control in 2024? I am still seeing T7 with scratches on swingarm from this ridiculous exhaust hanging idea, only after minor falls :/
1. Fix the exhaust hanger / subframe issue
2. Add cruise Control for highway days
And I think it will be a great bike.
Lack of cruise control is the smallest problem here. You have plank instead of seat, no TC, no QS (this is NOT QS what they offer), tube tires, heavy top bike. This is not bike for year 2024
Is that jacket called a Vaj? Oh dear.
I once wore a “vaj” and got a kid out of it .😂
Japan… the original T7 has always been capable if you know what you’re doing. Buy basic and then evolve the machine. The MotoKenko T7 is for Japan.
Can it be equipped with crash bar?
Want a more road focused ADV with off-road ability but also has cruise control, lane change assist, rear collision warning and blind spot detection? Get a CFMoto 800MT. Also happens to be much cheaper than the Tenere.
Yamaha needs to stop fighting us and install tubeless wheels, a 16t countershaft as standard and a larger fuel tank. Krylon flat black paint isn't very appealing for a touring type machine. How about colors that inspire and not bottom of the shoe colors.
Why on Earth don’t they give you the double tank??
No cruise control?
Baffling
It needs ride by wire throttle in order to have cruise control and/or traction control.
@@mnap89 im pretty sure the normal model for 2024 has traction control
Cable throttle makes cruise a near impossibility, unless the company installed a stand-alone servo motor to tug on another cable turning the manual throttle plates.
Otherwise, you need Yamaha to convert the MT-07, XSR700, Tracer 700, and Tenere T7 over to throttle-by-wire including all the usual complexities that come along with that sort of system (and competitors' amenity levels associated with it).
It's not nearly as good, but consider an aftermarket throttle lock such as Atlas or Kaoko or Breakaway.
@@ThePresidentofMars It doesnt have TC. Only 3 modes for ABS.
From what I know, you cant have Traction control system with cable operated throttle body.
Just another example of ridiculous bike prices
Do not call this... something... "Quick Shifter". To go up with gear you do not need any 'quick shifter'. The deal is to reduce gear.
Honda transalp is much better value. Shame it doesn’t have cruise and tubeless tyres
like it we can't have it. I have 2022 std model
Hold on…at 1:24…the LOUIS brands…did you slip in my favourite heavy rock band as a joke addition?! Or are AC/DC now actually doing bike merch?! In which case I’m on a Highway to Hell with Down Payment Blues but Back in Black!!
I just think the T7 in all its carnations are all long in the tooth now, come on Yamaha make a T9
Just with a low centre of gravity, tubeless tyres and decent fuel range.
@@_hold_the_line_Looks like it’s a BMW then🧐
if you want tubeless, it's possible to upgrade aftermarket. For the cruise control....humanity can survive without it...
Needs a 200lb diet, a kick starter, a 23" front tire, cruise and heated windshield.
Never needed cruise control in 53 years, another expensive electronic thing to go wrong , what next ? Lane assist 😂😂😂
Long highway miles?
@@MrNick99 used to do 500 miles in a day , while in the services , stop every 150 approx for fuel , food and relax stop , over 22 years 😊👍👍
Love my Cruise control on my Tiger 800. I would not buy a bike without it. However, we are all different so I respect your view, even if I disagree
If they put tubeless wheels and cruise control I would trade it for my trusty super tenere 1200
Sorry not for me
Next bike please ✌🏻
No cruse control no deal.
Yamaha’s colour schemes of late are poor. Most models have one or at most two colours, and many of them are crap looking. It’s mostly a small number of painted plastic panels so why not offer more colours for the price of a small car? Not sure what the market is for this bike - still very tall, barebones spec and missing the features a grand or two more will get you on its slightly more powerful competitors. The T was a bargain at under £8K but the price hikes has taken it into another group of bikes, and it’s looking poor value for money.
please give us tubless wheels Yamaha 🙄
why is everone looking for tubeless ? are ye fixing punctures yourselves?
Too high
Old people version
Too heavy, (70KG heavier than promised), top heavy, not enough fuel capacity. Disappointing.
Outdated motorcycle. Plank instead of seat, no TC, no QS (this is NOT QS what they offer), tube tires, heavy top bike.