What's the point? Challenge of trying to run rapids as dry as possible through excellent water reading and boat maneuvering. Challenge of using just a single bladed paddle. It's also simply a lot of fun. Several manufacturers (Esquif, Blackfly, Mohawk) are coming out with new designs for short, nimble whitewater canoes that are a blast to paddle.
I’ve paddled just about everything, K1, C1, C2 and even a bit of open canoe. The guy that taught me how to paddle told me “you don’t need to change rivers, change boats”. I stopped paddling whitewater for some years but have started back on a paddleboard. Nantahala Falls never looked bigger
Why did so few of them roll up? I paddle an open 15' old town with a perception seat. Easy to roll, even hand only. Seems like it would save a lot of those swims!
Which runs? It jumps around, but this is the order:of the clips: Butte Creek (first 3 clips), Alder Creek Rapid on the Sandy, Clackamas (tandem flip, yellow Ocoee running Toilet Bowl), Wilson River (Outrage flip), Eagle Creek (Detonator), back to Toilet Bowl, then June Creek section of the Clack (red Ovation), back to Alder Creek Rapid, back to Toilet Bowl, back to the Sandy (red L'edge), Hood River (yellow Phantom), Wilson River (purple Zoom), and finally back to Toilet Bowl.
You kneel. There are foam knee pads for the knees, thigh straps to enable fine control of boat tilt, and an 8-inch high pedestal seat for your butt. Some canoes use a foam bulkhead unit that encases your knees-no thigh strap needed.
I'm going to get a 14 foot mad River canoe I've never done a river in a canoe I want to practice will it sink if I roll and don't have those air bag things?
The air bags limit how much water can get in and stay in the boat, reducing how much of a tub of water your canoe can be when swamped in a rapid. Even more important, when the canoe flips, the air bags keep the canoe floating at the surface. Without them, a flipped canoe will "float" with most of the boat underwater. In a whitewater river with rocks, this creates all kinds of opportunities for the canoe to catch on a rock and even be wrapped around a rock by the current. This can destroy your canoe. The longer the canoe, the more prone it is to being seriously wrapped. A 14-footer is long by today's standards for solo canoes. Many of us now paddle canoes that are around 9 feet and would never think of paddling even them without air bags.
@@mscantlebury thanks yeah I definitely have been watching videos and different tips and techniques I just take it out on the lake right now it's very relaxing and peaceful and yeah if I where to flip it I wouldn't just try and fight it and keeping it upright filling up with water I'd go ahead and make it roll over as quick as I could get under it try and flip it back over or swim it to shore. But I been curious about putting it in the river and how it would work and know what kind of rapids or rivers to avoid. I'd more so would just want to take it down a easy flowing river with small minimal rapids to still kinda have some fun in. I'm not afraid of getting dunked I've kayaked down rivers plenty and have took a swim lol I just don't want to take it down anything where I could loose or damage the canoe and it hurts my dang back to carry that thing on my shoulders I can lift weight I've roofed houses and carried a ton of shingles up a roof no problem it's that piece in the middle hurt my neck and it's big and balancing it was my issue lol
the point is: anybody can run class 3+ in a kayak after one season...it takes way longer, more skill and determination to be able to do that in an open canoe. Finding the dry line in any rapid is the ultimate challenge for any canoeist...
Why does everyone have to remove the sound and play annoying music on videos? I love your footage but I want to hear the water and the people that are there experiencing it, not any kind of music!
Good question. As you saw in this video, I kept the sound in when it was entertaining. But posting 200 whitewater videos, some of them 20 minutes or longer, with just the sound of whitewater would get pretty dull. Most of the time, there's no cheers or other vocal commentary--just the sound of whitewater What's more, sometimes when I'm shooting , there's wind noise and the crappy camera microphone turns that into an irritating ambient sound. Personally, I like it when someone puts in the perfect piece of music to set the tone for a video. I've hunted down and bought music I've heard on other people's whitewater and other sport videos. Unfortunately, we all have different tastes, and some like yourself, would just like the roar of the water. I get it and that's cool.
What's the point? Challenge of trying to run rapids as dry as possible through excellent water reading and boat maneuvering. Challenge of using just a single bladed paddle. It's also simply a lot of fun. Several manufacturers (Esquif, Blackfly, Mohawk) are coming out with new designs for short, nimble whitewater canoes that are a blast to paddle.
I’ve paddled just about everything, K1, C1, C2 and even a bit of open canoe. The guy that taught me how to paddle told me “you don’t need to change rivers, change boats”. I stopped paddling whitewater for some years but have started back on a paddleboard. Nantahala Falls never looked bigger
F'n hilarious song choice. Love it. Also got a kick out of Michelin Man swimming at 2:45.
Happiness is the insurance policy of an Eskimo Roll and a spray skirt. Really good canoeists can escape the swim.
Nice line at 1:31. Slicin' across the grain and stylin' that wave train!
Great videography, great music.
Why did so few of them roll up? I paddle an open 15' old town with a perception seat. Easy to roll, even hand only. Seems like it would save a lot of those swims!
Most of them are all over the place. Perhaps, that is where the source of the thrill lies.
I’ve watched it at least six times .... awesome 👏
Mark, Great videos.
Some "really" nice runs, and some good carnage too!...also...love the haystack footage of Toilet Bowl...nice vid.
Lower Cumbria ? Just call yourselves Westmorland.
Better this, than to be a filthy two-blader!
Either way style counts and I am not seeing much here!
the upper west looks like blast and beautiful land as well. southeastern paddler I am.
Which runs? It jumps around, but this is the order:of the clips: Butte Creek (first 3 clips), Alder Creek Rapid on the Sandy, Clackamas (tandem flip, yellow Ocoee running Toilet Bowl), Wilson River (Outrage flip), Eagle Creek (Detonator), back to Toilet Bowl, then June Creek section of the Clack (red Ovation), back to Alder Creek Rapid, back to Toilet Bowl, back to the Sandy (red L'edge), Hood River (yellow Phantom), Wilson River (purple Zoom), and finally back to Toilet Bowl.
Is that Columnar basalt geology on the Hood River then? wild looking
1:30 Beautifully done!
ignorant question but - how do you sit in these?
You kneel. There are foam knee pads for the knees, thigh straps to enable fine control of boat tilt, and an 8-inch high pedestal seat for your butt. Some canoes use a foam bulkhead unit that encases your knees-no thigh strap needed.
Cool shots what river or rivers were theses runs?
I never get tried of watching your videos.
I'm going to get a 14 foot mad River canoe I've never done a river in a canoe I want to practice will it sink if I roll and don't have those air bag things?
The air bags limit how much water can get in and stay in the boat, reducing how much of a tub of water your canoe can be when swamped in a rapid. Even more important, when the canoe flips, the air bags keep the canoe floating at the surface. Without them, a flipped canoe will "float" with most of the boat underwater. In a whitewater river with rocks, this creates all kinds of opportunities for the canoe to catch on a rock and even be wrapped around a rock by the current. This can destroy your canoe. The longer the canoe, the more prone it is to being seriously wrapped. A 14-footer is long by today's standards for solo canoes. Many of us now paddle canoes that are around 9 feet and would never think of paddling even them without air bags.
@@mscantlebury thanks yeah I definitely have been watching videos and different tips and techniques I just take it out on the lake right now it's very relaxing and peaceful and yeah if I where to flip it I wouldn't just try and fight it and keeping it upright filling up with water I'd go ahead and make it roll over as quick as I could get under it try and flip it back over or swim it to shore. But I been curious about putting it in the river and how it would work and know what kind of rapids or rivers to avoid. I'd more so would just want to take it down a easy flowing river with small minimal rapids to still kinda have some fun in. I'm not afraid of getting dunked I've kayaked down rivers plenty and have took a swim lol I just don't want to take it down anything where I could loose or damage the canoe and it hurts my dang back to carry that thing on my shoulders I can lift weight I've roofed houses and carried a ton of shingles up a roof no problem it's that piece in the middle hurt my neck and it's big and balancing it was my issue lol
Not a ton of shingles at once bud packs lol about 60 to 90 pounds a pack and have carried rubber weighing about 400 pounds but with 3 people.
Mama told me there’d be days like this, there’d be days like this my mama said
the point is: anybody can run class 3+ in a kayak after one season...it takes way longer, more skill and determination to be able to do that in an open canoe. Finding the dry line in any rapid is the ultimate challenge for any canoeist...
Do it while you still have knees
just watched it again:))))
What is the point in chosing canoes for white water?
they're canoes and you get to look like a whitewater jedi with your one paddle.
For me was my back, I couldn't sit and paddle a kayak, and canoes are just way cooler
Not a canoeing video so much as a swimming video.
Anthyrhing above class 3 is really pushing it.. class 4 MAY be possible with a spray deck and an expert paddler, but not likely
Why does everyone have to remove the sound and play annoying music on videos? I love your footage but I want to hear the water and the people that are there experiencing it, not any kind of music!
Good question. As you saw in this video, I kept the sound in when it was entertaining. But posting 200 whitewater videos, some of them 20 minutes or longer, with just the sound of whitewater would get pretty dull. Most of the time, there's no cheers or other vocal commentary--just the sound of whitewater What's more, sometimes when I'm shooting , there's wind noise and the crappy camera microphone turns that into an irritating ambient sound. Personally, I like it when someone puts in the perfect piece of music to set the tone for a video. I've hunted down and bought music I've heard on other people's whitewater and other sport videos. Unfortunately, we all have different tastes, and some like yourself, would just like the roar of the water. I get it and that's cool.