Yes, but also getting the stories of the King Bee Pilot and Indig soldiers like Cowboy. Super important that everyone understands the major sacrifices South Vietnamese made to try to stop the evil communists.
This is an amazing podcast. The enthusiasm with which Tilt speaks of his mates is admirable. The excitement in Jack's attitude is palpable. Thank you gentleman, excellent.
Hear John's stories a hundred times. Always learn something new. Still in awe of what they did. Can anyone who has briefed an operation, imagine what the bosses would say after you gave them a SOG OP Plan? They'd probably just stare at you then transfer you! WTF. So sad those brave souls were not returned home. I know they've tried to go back, some with their own money, to recover the remains but my heart brakes. Thanks Jack you and John have a great feel for each other, the conversation moved fluidly and was fantastic to listen to. Stay healthy everyone.
I was at a gun show in Pasadena Texas, back in the 90s. I had a fatigue shirt on with a Mac V Sog patch on it, and a guy that looked like John , tall skinny guy. Came up to me and asked me if I new what that patch meant. ''' I am a Vietnam era Vet.'' Well I had no idea. He was a little bit mad. He sead I should take the shirt off. I told him that would not work. I was still looking at the stuff in the show and I had my Mother with me. He was trying to tell me about the SOG ,but I was to stupid to listen. But once he new I had served in the USARMY, well he combed down. I wish I new then what I know now. That was a hero right there and I did not know it. He should have slap the shit out of me, and sead Soldier you need to wake up. Thank you for your Everything John....
Jack, i know im late to the party but i found this looking for more of Tilts interviews from listening to Sog Cast. You Sir are an awesome interviewer. I love you manner. Your channel has a new fan. Thank you for your pod cast, and THANK YOU for your service to our country. Army 83- 86. 63d, We had 98% Vietnam combat vets, mostly 101st CIB vets, trained us. They were awesome. Imo, we couldnt have been trained by better men. We loved them. Thanks again. 🇺🇸 Salute 🇺🇸
@20:00 We were camping one weekend in a area of the North Carolina mountains for my cousins birthday (May 31st) and a group of four or five Army guys came walking out of the woods. This area is one of the most remote in Western North Carolina. Basically between Grandfather Mountain and Lenoir where you can drive over 30 miles on nothing but gravel roads.The area we were in is called Rock House Creek and its between two gravel roads on a forests service road that requires a 4x4 to reach. They were doing some kind of training and said they had 4 more days before they were supposed to be picked up. We fed them all the hot dogs and hamburgers they could eat and packed up everything we had left and sent them off the next morning very hung over and well fed.
I think John Plaster had the first book out on SOG in 1993. That was the end of their 20 yr secrecy agreement IIRC. After that we had several fire fighters talk about their SOG time never previously known. Plaster, Nick Brockhausen and Lynn Black all have great books.
Loved the conversation. Bought John’s books after listening. One small issue I have is you say the gov’t gave us our rights, couldn’t be more wrong. Our rights are granted by God and it is the government’s job to protect them, not take them away.
True… The government was only formed to protect the ppl and protect those rights… My my, how that’s changed… So many veterans of the past that spilt blood for our flag would be rolling in their graves. Hell, if the founding fathers were time warped to present day, they’d be arrested within an hour. Probably for open carry, among other things…
Jack you need to get John Plaster, SOG recon team leader, Sniper Instructor and author of a couple definitive books on SOG. The other very interesting interview would be Stephen Moore(author of "Uncommon Valor: The Recon Company that Earned Five Medals of Honor and Included America's Most Decorated Green Beret" on for more SOG stories.
It’s unfortunate that their missions had to remain secret for so long; 150% casualty rate, 50% chance of being KIA and a 1 to 150 (?) kill ratio. These are some bad ass men. So glad to hear these stories. Thanks to John for the SOG interviews and you Jack for get ting his story out there to the masses.
Mr Jack Carr i just want to say please dont let the negative comments/reviews get to you and please dont let them influence your writing i have read every brad thor, david Baldacci, vince flyn, jack reacher series books and your books are my absolute favorite and it seems everything the negative reviews hate is what makes the books great the details in how enemys use our weakness as an opportunity and our current landscape in the U.S. brings a major weakness and the technical knowledge and the detail description of equipment and the detailed research on war and military structure and history i dont want to see your style change because the negative Nancy's reviews i love your books and the small bits of knowledge passed through them your books are teir one keep up the amazing work and i will always be a devoted reader and i hope the positive reviews outweigh the negative amazing books cant get enough keep them coming sir
I not only read Tilt in SOF, I scored several good jobs from that magazine. My late Pop worked for The Company and worked with a Great group of Flyers back in some of the same years and ground you walked on Tilt. Airborne!
You can call someone a "man among men" but then you listen to Tilt's stories, and the stories from the guys he served with, and it gives a whole new meaning to the phrase.
Really appreciate you and your podcasts, books. Awesome! One point of contention though, the constitution and the government that purports to defend it does not nor has it ever given us our rights, rather it has defended our inherent God given rights. But I do agree that our government appears to be more concerned with the removal rather than the defense of our rights.
This is history that definitely needs to be heard and documented. The SOG warriors were a different breed of solider then what we have today. All of our solders are great men and very much appreciated, but the SOG warriors saw and did some hairy shit. I have seen all of the podcasts that j could find on them and there stories are top of the line combat. 5 to 7 solders facing anywhere between 200 to 10000 enemy soldiers and coming out alive with a large kill count. An the Intel they gathered, the rescue missions. Godbless all of those men an everything they did.
I like Jim… He did an interview with tilt for sogcast and I seen another one he did with the arma guys… He said he ran over 50 missions between sog and the A teams. And worked for 3 branches of service. Navy, army, and Air Force as a pj… Would love to see more interviews of the wild carrot as well. Please Get him on Jack…
Yeah they did Jim was in ccs and tilt was in cnn never worked together but knew each other and tilt and Idaho was tdy to ccs for the epic thanksgiving mission in November 68
I know Jocko and Tilt are partnering to get these SOG veterans oral/video stories documented but I highly suggest Jack bring them all on as well. It’s enlightening and enjoyable to get a different perspective from your line of questions and interaction. I’d love to see Nick Brokhausen on.
“You shot him, you go fix him!” These dudes where built different man. 😂 but sincerely hats off to these gentleman holy shit, some absolute savages. True warriors.
When the enemy has your six digit coordinates, what is the best course of action?” “Tell them ‘here are my eight digit coordinates, come and get me mf’er.’” MACV-SOG
I’ve seen interviews on everyone of these guys except Lyn Black… Somebody’s (Jack) gotta capture him telling his stories on video! I love you too tilt, but you gotta talk him into an interview.
18:51 im glad I got to know that mans name. In the sog commandos book by John plaster I think, they used a pseudonym (Miguel something). *Graphic spoiler The teams were captured by basically super sappers, extreme communist zealots, who did the jumping out and grabbing like how sog had done to so many NVA. Then they cut open his stomach so his intestines fell out, stuck a flamethrower inside and burned him from the inside out. Then torched the indig as well and left one sog man alive. The many of the guys back at the FOB thought the guy had hallucinated it until a few days later when they found the scorched bodies. These sappers made the guy call for help on his radio, hooked him up to the McGuire rig and sent him on his way. Insane stuff. It's so unfortunate that the majority of the youth will never know these men's names and many wouldn't even care. The country deserves much better for what these men fought for, even if you don't sgree with the war. They wreaked havoc on some teams, whole teams disappearing without a trace and whole teams killed or captured.
His name is Lauri Torni (Larry Thorne when he joined the US army) He was a Finnish soldier when the Soviets invaded Finland in ww2, then joined the German Army to help fight against the soviets.. after ww2 he managed to make it to the US and joined the army and fought against the soviet backed north Vietnam He basically hated the soviets and communism and spent his life fighting against communists
A BIG thank you to you Jack and Jocko for capturing John's stories. They so badly need to be part of documented history.
Yes, but also getting the stories of the King Bee Pilot and Indig soldiers like Cowboy. Super important that everyone understands the major sacrifices South Vietnamese made to try to stop the evil communists.
Mr. Meyer is one of the most motivating individuals on the face of the planet right now.
2 great patriots ! I’m so glad to see jack carr doing his thing ! Keep up the great work !
Well said!!
This is an amazing podcast. The enthusiasm with which Tilt speaks of his mates is admirable. The excitement in Jack's attitude is palpable. Thank you gentleman, excellent.
Five Fucking Stars, I love listening to Tilt. He is a hero of a different age. So cool. Thanks Jack.
Hear John's stories a hundred times. Always learn something new. Still in awe of what they did. Can anyone who has briefed an operation, imagine what the bosses would say after you gave them a SOG OP Plan? They'd probably just stare at you then transfer you! WTF. So sad those brave souls were not returned home. I know they've tried to go back, some with their own money, to recover the remains but my heart brakes. Thanks Jack you and John have a great feel for each other, the conversation moved fluidly and was fantastic to listen to. Stay healthy everyone.
Always like hearing these stories from men like John. Keep them coming. Thanks
A rare opportunity to hear from a living legend.
ABSOLUTE LEGEND
Awesome.
We need more Tilt!
I am so thankful for content like this. Thanks Mr Carr and Mr Meyer.
I was at a gun show in Pasadena Texas, back in the 90s. I had a fatigue shirt on with a Mac V Sog patch on it, and a guy that looked like John , tall skinny guy. Came up to me and asked
me if I new what that patch meant. ''' I am a Vietnam era Vet.'' Well I had no idea. He was a little bit mad. He sead I should take the shirt off. I told him that would not work. I was still looking
at the stuff in the show and I had my Mother with me. He was trying to tell me about the SOG ,but I was to stupid to listen. But once he new I had served in the USARMY, well he combed
down. I wish I new then what I know now. That was a hero right there and I did not know it. He should have slap the shit out of me, and sead Soldier you need to wake up. Thank you for your Everything John....
Jack, i know im late to the party but i found this looking for more of Tilts interviews from listening to Sog Cast.
You Sir are an awesome interviewer. I love you manner. Your channel has a new fan. Thank you for your pod cast, and THANK YOU for your service to our country.
Army 83- 86. 63d, We had 98% Vietnam combat vets, mostly 101st CIB vets, trained us. They were awesome. Imo, we couldnt have been trained by better men. We loved them.
Thanks again. 🇺🇸 Salute 🇺🇸
@20:00
We were camping one weekend in a area of the North Carolina mountains for my cousins birthday (May 31st) and a group of four or five Army guys came walking out of the woods. This area is one of the most remote in Western North Carolina. Basically between Grandfather Mountain and Lenoir where you can drive over 30 miles on nothing but gravel roads.The area we were in is called Rock House Creek and its between two gravel roads on a forests service road that requires a 4x4 to reach. They were doing some kind of training and said they had 4 more days before they were supposed to be picked up. We fed them all the hot dogs and hamburgers they could eat and packed up everything we had left and sent them off the next morning very hung over and well fed.
Jack is a great guy.That was a fantastic interview, such unique men.
I think John Plaster had the first book out on SOG in 1993. That was the end of their 20 yr secrecy agreement IIRC. After that we had several fire fighters talk about their SOG time never previously known. Plaster, Nick Brockhausen and Lynn Black all have great books.
Loved the conversation. Bought John’s books after listening. One small issue I have is you say the gov’t gave us our rights, couldn’t be more wrong. Our rights are granted by God and it is the government’s job to protect them, not take them away.
True… The government was only formed to protect the ppl and protect those rights… My my, how that’s changed… So many veterans of the past that spilt blood for our flag would be rolling in their graves. Hell, if the founding fathers were time warped to present day, they’d be arrested within an hour. Probably for open carry, among other things…
Jack you need to get John Plaster, SOG recon team leader, Sniper Instructor and author of a couple definitive books on SOG. The other very interesting interview would be Stephen Moore(author of "Uncommon Valor: The Recon Company that Earned Five Medals of Honor and Included America's Most Decorated Green Beret" on for more SOG stories.
LEGENDARY Operator
Listening to this today while volunteering at the Welcome Home traveling Vietnam Memorial Wall in the Ozarks .
Another great podcast , a rare man of quality
Just another day in SOG
It’s unfortunate that their missions had to remain secret for so long; 150% casualty rate, 50% chance of being KIA and a 1 to 150 (?) kill ratio. These are some bad ass men. So glad to hear these stories. Thanks to John for the SOG interviews and you Jack for get ting his story out there to the masses.
Mr Jack Carr i just want to say please dont let the negative comments/reviews get to you and please dont let them influence your writing i have read every brad thor, david Baldacci, vince flyn, jack reacher series books and your books are my absolute favorite and it seems everything the negative reviews hate is what makes the books great the details in how enemys use our weakness as an opportunity and our current landscape in the U.S. brings a major weakness and the technical knowledge and the detail description of equipment and the detailed research on war and military structure and history i dont want to see your style change because the negative Nancy's reviews i love your books and the small bits of knowledge passed through them your books are teir one keep up the amazing work and i will always be a devoted reader and i hope the positive reviews outweigh the negative amazing books cant get enough keep them coming sir
Legend. Love this guy. Thanks for everything you do guys.
articles etc,..couldnt get enough❤
Thanks Jack & Tilt for such a great podcast, this was a good one
I not only read Tilt in SOF, I scored several good jobs from that magazine. My late Pop worked for The Company and worked with a Great group of Flyers back in some of the same years and ground you walked on Tilt. Airborne!
All of these men are HEROS❤
Really enjoyed this history lesson that couldn’t be taught any other way.
I sure would like to buy Tilt a beer or two ...what a great American!!!
You can call someone a "man among men" but then you listen to Tilt's stories, and the stories from the guys he served with, and it gives a whole new meaning to the phrase.
Really appreciate you and your podcasts, books. Awesome! One point of contention though, the constitution and the government that purports to defend it does not nor has it ever given us our rights, rather it has defended our inherent God given rights. But I do agree that our government appears to be more concerned with the removal rather than the defense of our rights.
Thanks! RVN 66-67-68. It's nice to finally feel appreciated.
Awesome job Jack...great interview...
Thank you brother...
Legit Hero Thank you Gentlemen
WOW!
Seiko watches...I had one in VN. Lost it a few years after I came home...best watches, never failed
Thank you and as always, shared!
Love this man
loved his book
I love Meyer
This is history that definitely needs to be heard and documented. The SOG warriors were a different breed of solider then what we have today. All of our solders are great men and very much appreciated, but the SOG warriors saw and did some hairy shit. I have seen all of the podcasts that j could find on them and there stories are top of the line combat. 5 to 7 solders facing anywhere between 200 to 10000 enemy soldiers and coming out alive with a large kill count. An the Intel they gathered, the rescue missions. Godbless all of those men an everything they did.
Andrew Arrabito, now John Stryker Myers? Jacks stepping his game up. Next you need to talk to Jim Shorten aka “Wild Carrot” of Macvsog.
I like Jim… He did an interview with tilt for sogcast and I seen another one he did with the arma guys… He said he ran over 50 missions between sog and the A teams. And worked for 3 branches of service. Navy, army, and Air Force as a pj… Would love to see more interviews of the wild carrot as well. Please Get him on Jack…
Jack, I luv ya, your such a great talent man. I appreciate you, God Bless you for your 20 Yrs. Of Service : 🔥20 yrs “ IS A BIG DEAL “ Thank you !
Great Podcast! I’ve never heard or read if John knew James Shorten-Jones, another hero. They surely know each other now, but did they in Vietnam?
Yeah they did Jim was in ccs and tilt was in cnn never worked together but knew each other and tilt and Idaho was tdy to ccs for the epic thanksgiving mission in November 68
These guys know they made it in the podcast game when tilt is a guest!
Wow 😳
Let’s go!!!
Incredible books
I know Jocko and Tilt are partnering to get these SOG veterans oral/video stories documented but I highly suggest Jack bring them all on as well. It’s enlightening and enjoyable to get a different perspective from your line of questions and interaction. I’d love to see Nick Brokhausen on.
Excellent interview!!!. Thanks for not spreading the ignorance that the idiots rely on .
Love this
ENJOY ALL
“You shot him, you go fix him!” These dudes where built different man. 😂 but sincerely hats off to these gentleman holy shit, some absolute savages. True warriors.
Sabaton did a song about Larry Thorne called "Soldier of three armies"
When the enemy has your six digit coordinates, what is the best course of action?”
“Tell them ‘here are my eight digit coordinates, come and get me mf’er.’” MACV-SOG
I’ve seen interviews on everyone of these guys except Lyn Black… Somebody’s (Jack) gotta capture him telling his stories on video! I love you too tilt, but you gotta talk him into an interview.
Lynne has said he won’t do interviews
@@DLo336 I know… That’s why I said they need to talk him into it… lol…
But hey, to each their own…
@@benyoung552 I’m with you, I would freaking love to hear his stories. I heard he was writing a book but idk if that true or not
Awesome 😎
Legend
Epic!
Just found you through the Mike Glover pod, wanted to find out if you have done a pod with tilt. You have. My mannnn.
Tilts the man !
It would have been great if he had Richard Marcinko on his before he passed away .
I was with CCC from 68 through 69
Do a podcast with Mark Donaldson vc !!!
18:51 im glad I got to know that mans name. In the sog commandos book by John plaster I think, they used a pseudonym (Miguel something). *Graphic spoiler
The teams were captured by basically super sappers, extreme communist zealots, who did the jumping out and grabbing like how sog had done to so many NVA. Then they cut open his stomach so his intestines fell out, stuck a flamethrower inside and burned him from the inside out. Then torched the indig as well and left one sog man alive. The many of the guys back at the FOB thought the guy had hallucinated it until a few days later when they found the scorched bodies. These sappers made the guy call for help on his radio, hooked him up to the McGuire rig and sent him on his way. Insane stuff. It's so unfortunate that the majority of the youth will never know these men's names and many wouldn't even care. The country deserves much better for what these men fought for, even if you don't sgree with the war. They wreaked havoc on some teams, whole teams disappearing without a trace and whole teams killed or captured.
MACV-SOG
When you absolutely positively have to have someone killed by 9am the next morning.
I too and my family are Also members of the navy federal credit Union Is well over 40 years
And Thailand.
Did he just say there was a Nazi soldier that ended up in American SF and fighting in Vietnam?
His name is Lauri Torni (Larry Thorne when he joined the US army)
He was a Finnish soldier when the Soviets invaded Finland in ww2, then joined the German Army to help fight against the soviets.. after ww2 he managed to make it to the US and joined the army and fought against the soviet backed north Vietnam
He basically hated the soviets and communism and spent his life fighting against communists
Tilt!!
Hay Jack Carr!!! You Tadpole?! All yeeee Seals, look alike too a, Hungary Bull-Shark?! In Freash Water!
Mentorship! Thank you John. Thank you Jack.
❤-🇦🇺🏴☠️
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