GK Sir, your breakdown of numbers and how 'legalised' manipulation of the EQ is an absolute eye opener to the 'democracy' we have had. To the Courts.. Yes and the two options?.. Hmmm. Thank you GK and Tindak Msia Delimitation Proposal and HH Lim an CN Ng... Democracy owes a debt of gratitude to you all.
Your solutions are based on moral and ethical grounds of which not all subscribe to. I can only wish there were enough souls in Malaysia that would do so.
Thank you Mr GK sir for explaining all the figures . Amazing this was not challenged before. Happy Deepavali and a happy new year to you and your family
Fantastic report.. to change to one person one vote.. never today can happen to reverse back to a real fair election.. Why? Many will perceive this as taking away benefit for some part of population... 🤦🤦🤦
Ethnic based malapportionment (subtly implied) has been there since 1954 delineation. Only in 1960, when strict rules of Merdeka Constitution was used for redelineation, this was reversed. 1962 amendments annulled the 1960 fair redelineation. Since then ethnic based malapportionment and gerrymandering allowed the incumbent to stay in power until 2018
Thank you Mr GK for this very interesting & informative article. No offense to anyone. May I ask why after the extensive research, no one especially the learned & legal eagles took affirmative action to right the wrong. So what was the purpose of the research.
Thank you for your kind words. Why has it not been done before? Not sure. Perhaps no one thought to look at source of the error. Or even if they did, they may not have had a strategy to overcome it.
@@GKganesan tq for responding. It's very kind & sweet of you. Hopefully some great people will take on this task. Infact, Mr GK it would be fantastic if you do Malaysians the honour sir.
On behalf of Tindak Malaysia, I would like to thank you for citing our past research. We must understand the deviation limits of +/-15% of EQ in our original Merdeka Constitution was clearly worded and specifically refers Electoral Quota for the state. EC up to 1973 had the power to add or delete seats throughout Malaya through the provisions of Merdeka Constitution and 1962 (bad time) amendments. Some individuals interpreted the loose terms of 1962 amendments as +/-33% of Electoral Quota. Tindak Malaysia's recent study debunked such myths of +/-33%. It is important we should aim to reinstate clear, non vaguely worded terms of the Merdeka Constitution. Not using 1962 amendments as some sort of reference for wide limits
In MA 63 : Chapter 3-Parliament, Legislative Assemblies and State Constitutions 8. In Article 45 of the Constitution, in paragraph (b) of Clause (1) (which provides for sixteen members of the Senate to be appointed by the Yang di-Pertuan Agong), for the word " sixteen " there shall be substituted the words " twenty-two ". 9. (i) The House of Representatives shall consist of one hundred and fifty-nineelectedmembers. (2) There shall be- (a) one hundred and four member from the States of Malaya ; (b) sixteen members from Sabah ; (c) twenty-four members from Sarawak ; (d) fifteen members from Singapore. With the exit of Singapore from Malaysia, this gave Sabah and Sarawak 28% of the seats in parliament. Is this guaranteed in the Constitution? How does the EQ relate to this aspect of the MA63? Recently it has been said that the 15 seats for Singapore should have been redistributed to Sabah and Sarawak to ensure that a 2/3 majority is not held by Malaya. This would increase East Malaysia’s representation in parliament to 35%.
There're alot of unconstitutional amendment made over the 60 years period that shifting the goal post. Whoever wins the next GE will not touch it (with ten foot pole) as the damages has been done (I hope not) and beyond repair rather keeping the status quo. Sandakan has less than 12K voters.
Now I understand- I always thought the people deserve the government they voted- not necessarily true when foxes and toads walk the corridors of power. Thank you.
@@GKganesan, Really? IIRC, to change the constitution a 2/3 majority in Parliament is required. At present, Borneo (S&S) has less than 1/3 of the parliamentary seats (about 25%, 56 seats out of 222). That is well below the 33.333333333% needed to block any unfavourable amendments to the constitution. By your logic, one person, one vote will make it even worse, with only about 18% of parliamentary seats allocated to Borneo. And do remember the PDA 74, where Sarawak lost its offshore O&G resources to a federal govt entity, with the revenues sent to develop Malaya, instead of benefiting Sarawak. And the Territorial Sea Act, 2012, reduced to 3 n miles (from 12 n miles). Pray tell me why the states with the most resources should be the least developed? Furthermore, please remember that MA64 is signed between Malaya, Sarawak and Sabah (and obviously Singapore). Of course the people in Borneo are very fearful of the shenanigans in Malaya.
GK Sir, your breakdown of numbers and how 'legalised' manipulation of the EQ is an absolute eye opener to the 'democracy' we have had. To the Courts.. Yes and the two options?.. Hmmm. Thank you GK and Tindak Msia Delimitation Proposal and HH Lim an CN Ng... Democracy owes a debt of gratitude to you all.
Thank you ever so much. It is people like you that reaffirm my faith in continuing with this often arduous task.
Looks like all this while we were practicing pseudo democracy. Good video Mr GK. Happy Deepavali
Thank you Ms Seetha. Happy Deepavali
I'm surprised no one brought a legal challenge in court
As I am!
Your solutions are based on moral and ethical grounds of which not all subscribe to. I can only wish there were enough souls in Malaysia that would do so.
Thank you.
Well, you are right. Other than moral and ethical reasons, what reasons do we have to live and let live?
Well analysed Mr GK.
Thank you.
Thank you Mr Ee
Sharing! Happy deepavali GK and family! 🎉
Thank you
Sir. I have respected your knowledge and expertise for a long time. Tq. Brother.
You opened my eyes
Thanks man
Amazing presentation with abundance of constitutional awareness
Thank you
Thank you Mr GK sir for explaining all the figures . Amazing this was not challenged before.
Happy Deepavali and a happy new year to you and your family
Thank you Mr Gohil
Fantastic report.. to change to one person one vote.. never today can happen to reverse back to a real fair election.. Why? Many will perceive this as taking away benefit for some part of population... 🤦🤦🤦
Thank you fort our views.
Absolutely! We are very much aware of all their tricks. They changed the boundaries to give BN the upper hand since Tun Ms time.
It started in 1962.
Ethnic based malapportionment (subtly implied) has been there since 1954 delineation. Only in 1960, when strict rules of Merdeka Constitution was used for redelineation, this was reversed. 1962 amendments annulled the 1960 fair redelineation. Since then ethnic based malapportionment and gerrymandering allowed the incumbent to stay in power until 2018
Thank you Mr GK for this very interesting & informative article. No offense to anyone. May I ask why after the extensive research, no one especially the learned & legal eagles took affirmative action to right the wrong. So what was the purpose of the research.
Thank you for your kind words.
Why has it not been done before? Not sure. Perhaps no one thought to look at source of the error. Or even if they did, they may not have had a strategy to overcome it.
@@GKganesan tq for responding. It's very kind & sweet of you. Hopefully some great people will take on this task. Infact, Mr GK it would be fantastic if you do Malaysians the honour sir.
Yes Sir
as you have suggested
will the one do the right thing ?
That's the vexing question.
True!
On behalf of Tindak Malaysia, I would like to thank you for citing our past research. We must understand the deviation limits of +/-15% of EQ in our original Merdeka Constitution was clearly worded and specifically refers Electoral Quota for the state. EC up to 1973 had the power to add or delete seats throughout Malaya through the provisions of Merdeka Constitution and 1962 (bad time) amendments. Some individuals interpreted the loose terms of 1962 amendments as +/-33% of Electoral Quota. Tindak Malaysia's recent study debunked such myths of +/-33%. It is important we should aim to reinstate clear, non vaguely worded terms of the Merdeka Constitution. Not using 1962 amendments as some sort of reference for wide limits
You are welcome
In MA 63 :
Chapter 3-Parliament, Legislative Assemblies and State Constitutions
8. In Article 45 of the Constitution, in paragraph (b) of Clause (1) (which provides for sixteen members of the Senate to be appointed by the Yang di-Pertuan Agong), for the word " sixteen " there shall be substituted the words " twenty-two ".
9. (i) The House of Representatives shall consist of one hundred and fifty-nineelectedmembers.
(2) There shall be-
(a) one hundred and four member from the States of Malaya ; (b) sixteen members from Sabah ;
(c) twenty-four members from Sarawak ;
(d) fifteen members from Singapore.
With the exit of Singapore from Malaysia, this gave Sabah and Sarawak 28% of the seats in parliament. Is this guaranteed in the Constitution? How does the EQ relate to this aspect of the MA63?
Recently it has been said that the 15 seats for Singapore should have been redistributed to Sabah and Sarawak to ensure that a 2/3 majority is not held by Malaya. This would increase East Malaysia’s representation in parliament to 35%.
The question is whether MA 63 is higher than the constitution.
Hi sir, good day.. 🙏
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Undoubtedly.
Thank you
Wow those 1/3 voters guarantee the winners. Changes must be made for Proportional representation.
Thank you for your views
There're alot of unconstitutional amendment made over the 60 years period that shifting the goal post. Whoever wins the next GE will not touch it (with ten foot pole) as the damages has been done (I hope not) and beyond repair rather keeping the status quo. Sandakan has less than 12K voters.
True. But the people can do something about it.
Now I understand- I always thought the people deserve the government they voted- not necessarily true when foxes and toads walk the corridors of power. Thank you.
Thank you
Can we go to court over this?
Yea
Tq. Sir
If the one person one vote is implemented the Bornea region will have no safe guard against Malaya changing the Constitution unitarily.
No, that fear has no basis. There are sufficient safeguards in the Constitution to safeguard East Malaysia
@@GKganesan, Really?
IIRC, to change the constitution a 2/3 majority in Parliament is required.
At present, Borneo (S&S) has less than 1/3 of the parliamentary seats (about 25%, 56 seats out of 222).
That is well below the 33.333333333% needed to block any unfavourable amendments to the constitution.
By your logic, one person, one vote will make it even worse, with only about 18% of parliamentary seats allocated to Borneo.
And do remember the PDA 74, where Sarawak lost its offshore O&G resources to a federal govt entity, with the revenues sent to develop Malaya, instead of benefiting Sarawak.
And the Territorial Sea Act, 2012, reduced to 3 n miles (from 12 n miles).
Pray tell me why the states with the most resources should be the least developed?
Furthermore, please remember that MA64 is signed between Malaya, Sarawak and Sabah (and obviously Singapore).
Of course the people in Borneo are very fearful of the shenanigans in Malaya.