Hey everyone, THIS is the type of video I feel most proud to put out. Going over the vision, skills, and techniques to make better photos. I really hope you enjoy it, and if this is the type of video you'd like to see more of, please let me know by hitting the like button on the video!
This was really great, Robert! I'd love to see more of these kind of "breaking down the shot" videos. Super helpful and inspires me to be more creative in my own work.
Excellent! A perfect example of how a professional takes a question from a client (about the number of flashes) and then digs in deeper to see what the client is really asking and wants, then applies the appropriate process. Well done!
@@robhallphoto Definitely! And for these types of Videos, I really suggest you show us more than you show yourself talking. I hope that doesn't sound rude -- but this video was way too much of you talking, despite your obviously having filmed the production process and it would've been nice to see step by step, as you described it (especially in photoshop & lightroom), more than the brief flickering before going back to your head talking. Because you didn't show the process so much as describe it orally, I really wouldn't be able to learn or follow your steps, as a newbie. But showing more visually step by step would've demonstrated it in an easy to learn kind of way. Keep in mind, most of us are visual learners -- although your verbal teaching is admirable.
I know right. There's so many great photographers out there that just haven't mastered lighting yet. I think once you master lighting and Adobe Photoshop using Composites you'll be unstoppable!
Robert, you're amazing ! Thank you for sharing your technique, and your love of making photographs. I always look forward to your Godox stuff, and then you throw in an amazing tutorial like this ! I wish I could hit the like button more than once ! 👍😊
excellent thank you! I'm trying for the first time an orchestra photo for our high school. I hope it works! Did you just stay in the same spot that you took the room composite to take the individual photos?
That's very much appreciated Ricardo! I think my channel is really geared towards professional photographers and those that use lighting, which are both small niches of the massive photography community. I'm not really influenced to make content simply to grow my following, I just talk about the things important to me and hope it benefits like-minded individuals.
There's thousands of channels for camera and lens reviews. But Robert is my trusted source for lighting, technique, and soft box reviews. I greatly appreciate your tutorials and effort. 🙏
I love this, some links to your kit don't work, but this video is great, who would've thought a setup this complicated can be presented so achievable. Thanks Rob!!!
Robert, great information. From the initial request for the shoot to explaining it through the process and obtaining the results is an awesome contribution to the photographer. Sharing the video is an inspiration to the creativeness of the photographer who loves photography. Thank You!
Good stuff. Thank you. Would you mind sharing the commands used to get the different exposures to come up as separate layers in the same photoshop image?
Excellent video on your composite, Robert! It also shows the versatility of your Godox AD200 kit. As others stated, I too, would like to see a breakdown of your post-processing. Thanks again for your inspirational work!
Glad I caught this. I was really impressed in general, but one thing you did made it stand out even more - adding the four lights to create a believable light source. I really need to learn more!
Excellent Robert. You have made what I consider to be a near-impossible shoot look simple. I'm sure it's not but confidence in what you can achieve enables you to do near impossible things. More like this please.
Nice work, and well explained - thanks! I’d been thinking about trying this with a much larger group of around 50 people. Do you think this could work by compositing small groups of say four or five people at a time? Would you do anything differently than you did here?
Yeah you could definitely do this lighting independent groups of people. I would just be extremely cautious about making sure groups don't intersect one another, otherwise that complicates the selection process (unless you don't mind more stringent masking). If I got to go back the only thing I would have done differently in this photo is not had anyone sitting. At least not on the middle step. That sticks out a bit to me and gives the appearance of floating. The student sitting on the far step seems more grounded since you see the feet on the floor.
Wow. That was really amazing. You're a mad genius. Thank you for putting in the time and effort to share your methods to making this image. Really, really cool.
Great video! Thanks for all the great content you produce. Maybe I missed it in the video, but when capturing these composites are you pre-focusing your camera or focusing and re-composing with each person? It seems like the camera remains set in one position but if using DSLR with cluster focal points it would seem prefocusing is the answer. I’m assuming that’s why you used f/8
Yeah I discussed in video. Narrow aperture, pre-focused on front-most subject then double checked that the DOF was deep enough the render the furthest person sharp. Then manual focus (or in my case, just don't refocus as I use BBF) for the entire capture process.
Excellent video and excellent explication of all the work you put in. I’m sure you’ve already delivered the image to your client so this is probably useless info at this point but, to me, the 4 lights on the ledge take away from the leasing lines of the overhead lights. And since the overhead lights can be what explains the rim light on the back of the heads, it doesn’t seem necessary to have them there. But again, just my thoughts. Your work is always incredible.
Thanks for sharing this kind of information. The idea, and its execution were very nice. After looking at the final picture, I could deduce how you did it, however, I admit that you got me with the star lights in the background, because I thought you had just photoshopped them there, and instead you actually created them on location. Am looking forward to seeing your next video. Best wishes.
Genius at work! My day job is School photographer, I shoot groups all the time so this is particularly appealing to me. I do not have the time or budget to replicate this, however I will save this video demo and hopefully have the time and money to perform some day.
Go for it. Give it a try. The only thing you need is a $150 speedlight and a student to hold it. Use a simple umbrella as diffuser and set your camera on a bench or desk. No tripod needed.
Hey Robert, great video here and very instructive. However, with those rimlight, it just seems that the subject are pasted in from different other pictures, like they were cut out.
There's certainly an uncanniness that will be evident to photographers since the lighting qualities are impossible. This is even more clear when the veil has been lifted on the process. It's the same as every movie poster being a composite, or use of CGI in an action flick, or noticing B roll was used to cover up an audio splice during an interview. When you are aware of a process, the process stands out, but for the masses, it's irrelevant.
Nope. I just focused on the first student and made sure the last was still sharp. From there I never adjusted the focus until all assetts were complete
Hi man, great results :) If you allow I have a couple of questions re- the flash: - Were you on manual or on TTL? - How do you handle distance between the bulb and the subject? Again, congrats on the great shot! Best, JM
Manual, always The assistant knew to try and stay the same distance from the subject as they moved. If I had to modify the power a bit because I wanted to alter their position I just brought it up and down 1/3rd stop. Didn't take much adjusting.
Robert Hall Photography lol no, I just got accepted to Oakland and I’m gonna major in photography so I thought it was pretty funny I saw this video lol
Great job but no tripod on a composite shoot! Sheeze why torture yourself like that? Nice results but damm man buy yourself a tripod they don't cost all that much and you'll have a peace of mind.
I have 4 tripods lol. Didn't have to adjust a single shot they all lined up perfectly. I've done it many times before at weddings, on a flat surface, on a light stand or on a monopod. I do recommend it for others but I know how to stay steady without one through experience.
ANOTHER educator/social influencer saying EYE ESS OH!! Come on guys! You're trained in this, it's ISO, a word, NOT an Acronym! You're influencing impressionable young minds here, get it right and stop feeding young Photographers bad habits! Love your vids mate, but sorry, this really grates on me.
From the ISO website: "Because 'International Organization for Standardization' would have different acronyms in different languages (IOS in English, OIN in French for Organisation internationale de normalisation), our founders decided to give it the short form ISO. ISO is derived from the Greek isos, meaning equal. Whatever the country, whatever the language, we are always ISO." So, it is a made up word attempting to make a universal acronym. I've worked with the ISO. Some employees call it Eye Ess Oh. Some say Iso. Both are correct.
@@dennirussel While you're researching, delve a little deeper and you'll find out that part of what you said is true, and part is not. Both most certainly are NOT correct. They trademarked their company to a word, which just happens to be in all caps, derived from the Greek yes, not from their original acronym in English IOS. so it is therefore pronounced one way, EYE-SO. A bit more research might be required on your part, if like me you enjoy learning new things :)
@@simianinc Got one, what's your point? Oh wait, I think i've got it. You're suggesting that ME spending MY time correcting someone else who's said something incorrect is a waste of time, and YOU'RE proving YOUR point by commenting on ME wasting MY time correcting someone else who's saying something incorrect. Wow... I think you've really showed me up there! 🤣😂🤣 Nice work bro, you really proved your point there hey! 🤣😂🤣 Altho if you feel i've gotten that wrong, feel free to waste a little more of your time showing me how I've misunderstood or wasted my time and how I should 'get a life' or spend more of my life doing something else..... wow.... I'm getting head spins just thinking about it. Ok... Go! You've got the conch!
Hey, appreciate the reply. Here's what Joseph Martinez, iso Central Secretariat, Sales and Marketing, wrote to me a few weeks ago. "We tend to encourage the pronunciation 'eye-so' or 'eye-zoh'... But if [eye-ess-oh] is more natural for the person who is speaking, we don't have any problem with that."
Hey everyone, THIS is the type of video I feel most proud to put out. Going over the vision, skills, and techniques to make better photos. I really hope you enjoy it, and if this is the type of video you'd like to see more of, please let me know by hitting the like button on the video!
Brlliant. I'd like to see more like this. Thanks for sharing.
Robert Hall Photography Mate this is brilliant ✨
And you SHOULD be proud. I love these. Thanks for your instruction Robert!
Thank you
Yup, brilliant, clear and to the point, this is exactly the kind of videos I like and learn from. Great job, keep them coming.
Excellent portrait of the students, and it tells a story. I bet everyone was happy.
I can't wait to see it in it's finally printed form and how it's perceived by students/staff
Great Job with a simple lighting setup Tnks a lot Robert to share ideas.
This was really great, Robert! I'd love to see more of these kind of "breaking down the shot" videos. Super helpful and inspires me to be more creative in my own work.
Cool. I've been recording a lot of my sessions so I have plenty to share
Thanks so much for giving us a look at your process!
Happy to Daniel, hope it was helpful!
Excellent! A perfect example of how a professional takes a question from a client (about the number of flashes) and then digs in deeper to see what the client is really asking and wants, then applies the appropriate process. Well done!
more stuff like this please! no other youtube channel talking about this pro lighting skills! (not to my knowledge)
It's definitely rare on here and I'm happy to try to fill the gap!
@@robhallphoto Definitely! And for these types of Videos, I really suggest you show us more than you show yourself talking. I hope that doesn't sound rude -- but this video was way too much of you talking, despite your obviously having filmed the production process and it would've been nice to see step by step, as you described it (especially in photoshop & lightroom), more than the brief flickering before going back to your head talking. Because you didn't show the process so much as describe it orally, I really wouldn't be able to learn or follow your steps, as a newbie. But showing more visually step by step would've demonstrated it in an easy to learn kind of way. Keep in mind, most of us are visual learners -- although your verbal teaching is admirable.
I know right. There's so many great photographers out there that just haven't mastered lighting yet. I think once you master lighting and Adobe Photoshop using Composites you'll be unstoppable!
Robert, you're amazing ! Thank you for sharing your technique, and your love of making photographs. I always look forward to your Godox stuff, and then you throw in an amazing tutorial like this ! I wish I could hit the like button more than once ! 👍😊
Excellent video Robert! A concise explanation of how & why you did what you did.
Thanks Chris, can't wait to share more of these
Very nicely put together. Detailed, yet concise. Thanks!
Thanks for the feedback David!
More of this! Perfect length of video as well. Those "unusal" OCF photos are great to get inspiration for. Thanks Robert!
Awesome, glad you enjoyed i'll definitely be making more.
one of the most underrated photography channel out there. nice video!
excellent thank you! I'm trying for the first time an orchestra photo for our high school. I hope it works! Did you just stay in the same spot that you took the room composite to take the individual photos?
I still don't understand how "small" your following is for the amount and quality content you put out. One of my favorite channels, hands down.
That's very much appreciated Ricardo! I think my channel is really geared towards professional photographers and those that use lighting, which are both small niches of the massive photography community. I'm not really influenced to make content simply to grow my following, I just talk about the things important to me and hope it benefits like-minded individuals.
I agree!
There's thousands of channels for camera and lens reviews. But Robert is my trusted source for lighting, technique, and soft box reviews. I greatly appreciate your tutorials and effort. 🙏
Very cool image and great video Robert!
I love this, some links to your kit don't work, but this video is great, who would've thought a setup this complicated can be presented so achievable.
Thanks Rob!!!
Sorry! which links don't work?
Thanks for the comment though!
You sir, are a Master of Light! I always watch all your vids, but this one is my most favorite!
Great work Robert! The star-like effect of the rear light was achieved through f8 aperture right?
Thanks Robert - And thanks for the all the info. I switched to Godox because of your channel on RUclips and never looked back 👍
Thanks Phillip, so glad my videos helped you decide on gear! Hope it's treating you well.
Excellent video,very clear guiding,great photo,I can't wait do try it out!
Excellent breakdown man! Thanks!
Thanks for watching Chris!
Great video and breakdown of the process. Cheers,
Robert, great information. From the initial request for the shoot to explaining it through the process and obtaining the results is an awesome contribution to the photographer. Sharing the video is an inspiration to the creativeness of the photographer who loves photography. Thank You!
Thanks so much for that feedback Donald.
Great idea and the process is easy to follow. Might try that soon, thanks a lot!
Good stuff. Thank you. Would you mind sharing the commands used to get the different exposures to come up as separate layers in the same photoshop image?
File - scripts - load ifiles into stack - browse - select all files
Robert Hall Photography Thank you!!!
Brilliant job and excellent end result Rob. Really love how you put this together, consider me most impressed! 😊
Thank you very much dunny
Bravo Robert! Excellent work and thank you very much for sharing how it was done.
fantastic job on the photos and it a great looking composite. Furthermore, you explained the process perfectly
This is great! I've been practicing this type of setup but finding it very difficult since I'm a solo shooter.
I've done it solo at a wedding, it's definitely tough. Doing it with only one OCF and a wireless remote makes it easier.
Excellent video on your composite, Robert! It also shows the versatility of your Godox AD200 kit. As others stated, I too, would like to see a breakdown of your post-processing. Thanks again for your inspirational work!
Brilliant content and helpful narrative
Brilliant production, keep them coming!!!
thank you, will do
Robert Hall Photography 🙏
Super tutorial. Please keep'em coming.
Thank you!
Glad I caught this. I was really impressed in general, but one thing you did made it stand out even more - adding the four lights to create a believable light source. I really need to learn more!
Excellent Robert. You have made what I consider to be a near-impossible shoot look simple. I'm sure it's not but confidence in what you can achieve enables you to do near impossible things. More like this please.
Great tutorial, I hope to see more video like this from you, your work is incredible
Outstanding my friend. Rey informative. 👍👍👍
Great video, Rob!
Thanks Will
Awesome job, Robert!! Congrats!
Nice work, and well explained - thanks! I’d been thinking about trying this with a much larger group of around 50 people. Do you think this could work by compositing small groups of say four or five people at a time? Would you do anything differently than you did here?
Yeah you could definitely do this lighting independent groups of people. I would just be extremely cautious about making sure groups don't intersect one another, otherwise that complicates the selection process (unless you don't mind more stringent masking). If I got to go back the only thing I would have done differently in this photo is not had anyone sitting. At least not on the middle step. That sticks out a bit to me and gives the appearance of floating. The student sitting on the far step seems more grounded since you see the feet on the floor.
That is amazing work
Love it, thx!
Fantastic video great image
Thank you
Wow. That was really amazing. You're a mad genius. Thank you for putting in the time and effort to share your methods to making this image. Really, really cool.
Useful! Can you do a more in depth photoshop video of how you stitch them together?
Very well done!
Great video! Thanks for all the great content you produce. Maybe I missed it in the video, but when capturing these composites are you pre-focusing your camera or focusing and re-composing with each person? It seems like the camera remains set in one position but if using DSLR with cluster focal points it would seem prefocusing is the answer. I’m assuming that’s why you used f/8
Yeah I discussed in video. Narrow aperture, pre-focused on front-most subject then double checked that the DOF was deep enough the render the furthest person sharp. Then manual focus (or in my case, just don't refocus as I use BBF) for the entire capture process.
@@robhallphoto thanks!!
This was great. More please, sir!
Thanks for this, Robert. That was awesome.
excellent I'm really liking your work!
Thanks Dave!
Nice work Robert thank you for Sharing, nice photo☺️
Excellent video and excellent explication of all the work you put in. I’m sure you’ve already delivered the image to your client so this is probably useless info at this point but, to me, the 4 lights on the ledge take away from the leasing lines of the overhead lights. And since the overhead lights can be what explains the rim light on the back of the heads, it doesn’t seem necessary to have them there. But again, just my thoughts. Your work is always incredible.
Good work! Thank you for the video which details about this shooting)
Thank you, glad you enjoyed!
And you should be proud, my friend. Amazing work out there.
Informative tutorial.. great 👏🏻
Thank you
Thanks for sharing this kind of information. The idea, and its execution were very nice. After looking at the final picture, I could deduce how you did it, however, I admit that you got me with the star lights in the background, because I thought you had just photoshopped them there, and instead you actually created them on location. Am looking forward to seeing your next video. Best wishes.
Great technique!
Thank you Robert for sharing, very interesting.
Glad you thought so Kevin, thanks for watching
Genius at work! My day job is School photographer, I shoot groups all the time so this is particularly appealing to me. I do not have the time or budget to replicate this, however I will save this video demo and hopefully have the time and money to perform some day.
Go for it. Give it a try. The only thing you need is a $150 speedlight and a student to hold it. Use a simple umbrella as diffuser and set your camera on a bench or desk. No tripod needed.
Hey Robert, great video here and very instructive. However, with those rimlight, it just seems that the subject are pasted in from different other pictures, like they were cut out.
There's certainly an uncanniness that will be evident to photographers since the lighting qualities are impossible. This is even more clear when the veil has been lifted on the process. It's the same as every movie poster being a composite, or use of CGI in an action flick, or noticing B roll was used to cover up an audio splice during an interview. When you are aware of a process, the process stands out, but for the masses, it's irrelevant.
Wow! BRILLIANT!
Hey Rob, Adam form Jamaica here, really a great video...can you give how a more detailed walk-through on the post-production side of things...thanks
would like to see you doing light painting
I love your "Voice actived light stand" . . . Lol.!! 😂
Nice video, thanks!
Very instruktive. Thanks mate.
Robert, did you focus individually on each student for each student shot? Great video and would like to see more.
Nope. I just focused on the first student and made sure the last was still sharp. From there I never adjusted the focus until all assetts were complete
great vid, would love to see more like this
Great Stuff. Thank you
Thank you
Bloody awesome ..,
Very handy video - My little grey cells are now sparking 🤓
Glad it helped, thanks for watching
Nice man, I was wondering how you did this one.
I was pumped to get these details out. Didn't expect it to be this long of a discussion though.
Awesome!
Thanks!
Wow! Thanks a lot for that.
Great video! Subbed.
appreciate it, amazing job!
great! More tutorials of this type, please! :)
First vid of yours that I watched. Subbed. :)
Well I'm glad you found your way here, thanks for subscribing.
I'll try this when I find subject's that are patient enough
Super dope
Hi man, great results :) If you allow I have a couple of questions re- the flash:
- Were you on manual or on TTL?
- How do you handle distance between the bulb and the subject?
Again, congrats on the great shot!
Best,
JM
Manual, always
The assistant knew to try and stay the same distance from the subject as they moved. If I had to modify the power a bit because I wanted to alter their position I just brought it up and down 1/3rd stop. Didn't take much adjusting.
@@robhallphotoThank you for the answer :)
@@robhallphoto Did you use the R2 Pro Mark II transmitter for the shoot? How did you like the app functionality?
@@WatchThatFirstStep I've yet to use it with the app because I no longer have an iPhone.
Awesome! I subbed!
Thank you!
I would like to see more about how to do the actual photoshop work of this image. The shooting is easy but the post is a little more confusing to me
FIRE! Nice job *suscribe*
What would you normally charge for an image like this?
Clean Slate!
Great work. I hope the college paid you well for this!
Haha I'm very happy with my compensation there.
Aka there will be more godox stuff!
I was thinking the same! At least enough to pay for one semester's worth of tuition lol
The Glow EZ-Lock 28" Deep Parabolic is no longer available in Adorama :(
Must have been a link change, it's still there, I just updated it!
@@robhallphoto Thx you are the best!
Wow!!!
:) thanks!
I still don't know how you got each image into the picture.
Woooo
w00t
It helps but I'm not sure if it would work. 🤣
Very nice bro.
Hey... I recognize that Oakland grizzlies logo😂
Were you in the library cafe yesterday??
Robert Hall Photography lol no, I just got accepted to Oakland and I’m gonna major in photography so I thought it was pretty funny I saw this video lol
Great job but no tripod on a composite shoot! Sheeze why torture yourself like that? Nice results but damm man buy yourself a tripod they don't cost all that much and you'll have a peace of mind.
I have 4 tripods lol. Didn't have to adjust a single shot they all lined up perfectly. I've done it many times before at weddings, on a flat surface, on a light stand or on a monopod. I do recommend it for others but I know how to stay steady without one through experience.
Informative video, but way too many annoying ads thrown in! Grrr.
If you are shooting manual, with flash and on a tripod, you should be shooting at the lowest ISO.
ANOTHER educator/social influencer saying EYE ESS OH!! Come on guys! You're trained in this, it's ISO, a word, NOT an Acronym! You're influencing impressionable young minds here, get it right and stop feeding young Photographers bad habits! Love your vids mate, but sorry, this really grates on me.
Get a life
From the ISO website: "Because 'International Organization for Standardization' would have different acronyms in different languages (IOS in English, OIN in French for Organisation internationale de normalisation), our founders decided to give it the short form ISO. ISO is derived from the Greek isos, meaning equal. Whatever the country, whatever the language, we are always ISO." So, it is a made up word attempting to make a universal acronym. I've worked with the ISO. Some employees call it Eye Ess Oh. Some say Iso. Both are correct.
@@dennirussel While you're researching, delve a little deeper and you'll find out that part of what you said is true, and part is not. Both most certainly are NOT correct. They trademarked their company to a word, which just happens to be in all caps, derived from the Greek yes, not from their original acronym in English IOS. so it is therefore pronounced one way, EYE-SO. A bit more research might be required on your part, if like me you enjoy learning new things :)
@@simianinc Got one, what's your point? Oh wait, I think i've got it. You're suggesting that ME spending MY time correcting someone else who's said something incorrect is a waste of time, and YOU'RE proving YOUR point by commenting on ME wasting MY time correcting someone else who's saying something incorrect. Wow... I think you've really showed me up there! 🤣😂🤣 Nice work bro, you really proved your point there hey! 🤣😂🤣 Altho if you feel i've gotten that wrong, feel free to waste a little more of your time showing me how I've misunderstood or wasted my time and how I should 'get a life' or spend more of my life doing something else..... wow.... I'm getting head spins just thinking about it. Ok... Go! You've got the conch!
Hey, appreciate the reply. Here's what Joseph Martinez, iso Central Secretariat, Sales and Marketing, wrote to me a few weeks ago. "We tend to encourage the pronunciation 'eye-so' or 'eye-zoh'... But if [eye-ess-oh] is more natural for the person who is speaking, we don't have any problem with that."
I used the same method+mood last week.
For a Math Core band.
Nice, now I have a new genre to look up