Why Great Manga Have Terrible Endings
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Why Jujutsu Kaisen's ending sucks, and why shonen manga never end well.
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How would you rate Jujutsu Kaisen's ending? Which manga has the best ending?
4/10 at best
pretty sure its leading up to a sequel with the whole kenjaku build up but if they actually wrap EVERYTHING up in 2 chapters.. lets just say there wont be a jjk2 or any upcoming manga from gege after this
@@RodhiShartedHarded sequel wouldn’t change the fact that most ppl think jjk is mid as of current
Me im rating it a 6.9/10 loved it.
I think its pretty overhated tbh, it gave a pretty good conclusion to some of the character, and even tho it hurts to say, Gege did well by keeping Gojo dead. 8/10
That’s why Berserk, Vagabond and Hunter x Hunter are considered the best manga. If there’s no ending, there’s no disappointment.
Lmfao
Lol! Can't have a bad ending if you never end. Love that.
i think any ending will feel dissapointing no matter what it is, in a way having no ending can be the best ending possible, leaving our mind to wonder how would things go if the manga was continued
@@borzafrora good ending doesn't dissapoint just look at chainsaw man part 1
FMA had a great ending
The chapter hasn't even come out and there's already 5 hour video essays about this shit it's so gojover
Well actually all the pages are out already 🤓👆
@@Unknown-ly1zw all 20 pages, not just the 6?
Gege getting published in Shonen Jump was the best and worst thing for Jujutsu Kaisen
It was only for the worse. Ya it got way more popular but if this rushed product is the result of it becoming popular then what was the point
The ending was definitely ass but i enjoyed the journey , just hate the destination 😂
Hahaha
Really well said honestly
JJKs ending has felt like a bus ride home where all the stops are right before your house. Even though you're closer to the end than you were before, the journey keeps getting interrupted every 10 seconds and is taking longer than ever to reach a destination you have seen coming down the road
The message I took is that like gojo, gege wants JJK to be forgotten so he can move onto other things.. he doesn’t wanna be “the strongest”
U have a point. I can see Gege saying "I'm tired of drawing this Albino Haired Bastard"😂
No Heian era flashback
No 5 void generals
No angel backstory
No Sukuna backstory
No Uraume backstory
No uraume backstory
No Tengen backstory
No kenjaku backstrory
No Yuki development
No hakari development
No panda development
Kashimo being pointless
No explanation on culling games barrier
No consequinces of Yujo
No consequinces of Bumgumi being hit by multiple IV.
No proper send off for Gojo
No proper send off for Choso
Asspull deus ex nobara
Megumi gaining balls outta nowhere
Pointless hint of Kenjaku being alive
Usa millitary forgotten
2 major clans are never showed
Heian era clans not explained
No explanation on biding vow
No explanation on black box
No world building.
No yujis parents explaination
@@どて-w9w I mean we know who his patents are, we just dont know anythink bout Jin.
You summed it up perfectly
Let me have my insight on this
On the heian era flashback, it's a big fumble for gege
Idk the 5 void generals ngl
All the backstory you said is pretty much the heian era flashback
I think yuki was just used as a plot device
Idc about hakari not having a development, he's already cool though minus points for not defeating uraume
I guess kashimo was pointless, though I liked his talk with sukuna when he died
I don't really care about the culling games barrier because I forgot about it
I'm 50/50 on yujo, because yeah there should have been a consequence but Rika was just too op again
Megumi should be braindead
Gojo not having a funeral is absolutely atrocious
Choso talk with yuji when dying was the proper send off for me, plus yuji was the only person that cared for him
Deus ex from what I heard is something that is completely impossible to happen but still happens anyways for plot convenience, I don't think nobaras return was deus ex considering Nobara using soul resonance on sukunas finger was always in my mind on the start of shinjuku, I was a Nobara coper, though it still was an asspull
Thought kenjaku being alive was supposed to be a comedic thing because of takabas doing, of wanting to have a partner which he got
Usa military are fodders
Clan wars in jjk Part 2 maybe...? No...? That sucks...
Heian era clans would probably be explained in the heian era flashback
Binding vows were explained but I think your referring to what sukuna had to lose to use a binding vow
Idk about the black box thing, thought it was just used to censor furnace
Jjk phantom parade main characters should have been used in the real jjk man
But if you're talking about other countries, I think it's already explained because the USA didn't even know what curses are, only Japan knows
Gege has severely disappointed me I guess he really wasn't a good writer I thought that he was
While today's JUMP mangaka are struggling to write a single decent finale, NiSiOiSiN wrote three perfect finales for each of the three main characters of Medaka Box.
Man Medaka Box needs a reboot or a new season. 😔
Also he made Monogatari which arguable has my favourite cast ever
Tomodachi Game had a good ending.
That manga is what COTE wishes to be so hard, but fails because it lacks any sort of self awareness and personality
way before the ending i had problems with the series like Kenjaku was taken out way to easily , nothing came of the merger , Nobara coming back after not
doing shit for 50 % of the series as and getting a critical hit out on Sukuna that was unearned , Megumi not living up to his hype , Hakari vs Uraume being skipped , no heian era flashback , Tabakas fight with Kenjaku while entertaining was waste of time , Yuta surviving getting hit by the world slash , Rika magically getting RCT to heal Yuta even though its never been specified or shown that she is shikigami and has RCT before
I found it frustrating that the conditions of binding vows are almost never explained when a character makes one, which they made one all the time during the showdown.
@@thejosh2116it was never really shown in depth outside of Miwa vowing to never swing a sword again, but they were really just a catch-all system that Gege used to explain away Sukuna's changing levels of strength during his fights. We never even once got to see what happens if you break a Binding Vow or if that's even possible for someone like Sukuna himself to do.
yuta never got hit by a world slash? Rika is a cursed spirit (technically) so she's always had the ability to use RCT. Nobara case is silly. Megumi got so fucked at the end, like read 266 it's so goooooooooooooooooood. Heian era flashback is so unnecessary it's crazy.
@@modna9439no? Since when do cursed spirits have rct?
Sorry, but takaba vs kenjaku was the best fight in jjk, I would read an entire manga of them becoming comedians
Funny enough, I talked to my friend, who was into MHA before me, that it feels like this is gonna end in a "We're the greatest heroes," just looking at how they propped up the problems with All Might.
No one man could have carried the weight of the world. Like, in my head there was no way the status quo of having just one person shoulder being number one was gonna happen with how Horikoshi was setting up the characters.
I won't add my thoughts about the jjk ending yet, still trying to digest what I read.
I agree with this except the fight against Shigi didn’t echo this. It was just “wait for Deku” nobody had any meaningful contributions to the fight. If they would have all been chipping away at him through the entire course of the fight with everyone making fairly equal contributions I think it would have fit better.
I think people don't understand just how important an ending actually is, especially since the ending of a series is arguably the biggest factor in making a series worth recommending in the future. For example, now that this ending has happened in JJK, I am pretty sure that in the future all it will ever really be recommended for is the fights and nothing more.
Nah, I disagree, people are way more bias than that
I would agree if Bleach didn’t exist, but since it does that’s not what’s gonna happen
For a while people are going to be talking about JJK as if it’s mid and that’s it but I PROMISE you eventually when a new gen anime comes out people are gonna switch up and act like they always loved JJK, I’ve seen this behaviour happen time and time again
People used to say Bleach fell off after the first few arcs then when it started trending and getting popular again people switched up as if they loved these arcs from jump, it doesn’t help that a mappa adaptation of S3 is coming out eventually, if it looks good, people will switch up 🤷🏿♂️
@@RyomenAyeni225bruh no one switched up, almost all bleach fans that got into bleach after TYBW I talked to say the OG anime is underwhelming and Tybw is only worth it. The people who meatride the trash Old arcs always did, they just weren't as vocal before the new seasons.
People are already trashing JJK there I no hope for it after the anime ends
@@Neamio dude you must have forgotten things, the reasons why the people who meatride the old arcs weren’t as vocal is because Bleach wasn’t the popular thing anymore, but now because of TYBW we suddenly love bleach,
I don’t see anybody talking about the old shows flaws anymore
if you had some consistent friends that’s ok, but no as a whole people switched up
Nobody will remember next year ... I dunno if we will get season 3
if anime does come up most of us are going to watch Until Gojo vs sukuna arc.
Most will drop it after ...
Kijau 8 will take all of jjk fans
@@RyomenAyeni225 If it gets A part 2 or New Gen ... Maybe it can have a redemption...
The ending wasn’t bad, but it wasn’t good either. It just left a lot to be desired. That’s why I think it was honestly just a mediocre ending. There’s nothing wrong with that, but at the same time, there’s nothing great about it either
Agreed. While there was clearly a lot missing, I'd still give it like a 6/10 as an ending.
@@ShonenOuji Exactly, Jujutsu Kaisen will always be an 8/10 story in my book. But, the conclusion felt average. Great video btw 👍
@@Just1ndarkI agree people were jumping to conclusions before the full leaks were released. But after they came out I was still disappointed but I felt more at peace because I have a feeling this isn’t the end but I guess we’ll find out.
Then it was bad so many plot holes are you talking about?
Its bad stop the cap bro there so many plot line that never been answered
5:59 Jojo's bizarre adventure is the gold standard for manga endings, no other series (IN MY OPINION) has been able consistently stuck the landing on complexity of the scope and ambition that Hirohiko Araki’s attempted. With each part giving the reader a satisfying conclusion, which is probably the hardest part to write of any manga series. As well as it needs more recognition as Shonen Jump success story when it comes to handling side characters and plot lines/points.
However, I can’t say I necessarily dislike or really hate any manga endings as much as some choose to do, it always comes back to respecting the author/mangaka for me. By trying to understand what they were trying to do with their ending and their limitations to acknowledge the value of the entertainment/interest they have provided me. But some are better than others and I love the endings in JJBA, so I prefer to focus more on appreciating that.
I also love Dungeon Meshi's final arc and ending. It ended as a masterpiece.
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All hail the Devourer of All Things Horrible
Wtf are you talking about, Jojo's is horrible at handling plot lines, it had become so bad there is an entire meme about how "Araki Forgot"
And even if that was not the case One Piece is infinitely better at landing endings to each story arc and its significantly more complex than Jojo cause One Piece is a continuining story.
@@Neamio never cook again
@@garbageposter1775 everything i said is without a doubt true. Its not even opinionated i didnt even say which i like more everynight was just blatant fax
@@Neamio never cook again
I'd rather have them end the manga for good, than continue to Boruto, or whatever Bleach and Nanatzu no Taizai are trying to do.
Worst manga ending ever has to be Usagi Drop or Domestic Girlfriend
As for the best i would say for me it was Three Days of Happiness.
PS: Also Oshi No Ko is going in a bad direction, hopefully its just a bait and it doesen't ruin what they build so far.
What is Bleach trying to do. The manga ended years ago
@@de_maroProbably meant the “Hell Arc” and tbh I wish it happened but it will never. The manga is done, rushed ending but I consider it better than most
Nanatsu no Taizais sequel is actually starting to become way better than its predecessor tho. Four Knights of Apocalypse is criminally underrated.
@@TH3_0N3 maybe Kubo will start doing Hell Arc after TYBW Anime cour 4 ended, I really want to see new look of deceased Captain and Espada
yeah but the ending is still ass
It doesn’t matter what genre of Manga you read, rather it’s Shonen, Seinen,Shoujo or Josei not every manga series is going to have a perfect ending for conclusion and that’s all I’m going to say.
Shonen,shojo, Seinen and Josei are not genres they are demographics the main thing that decides whether a manga is one of them is the magazine they are published in.
@@starknight103 oh my mistake
What is this goofy opinion. Your ending dosent have to be perfect it at least needs to be as good as the story. JJKs story was already garbage, and the ending somehow made it even worse
i mean when you make a good story you're quite literally obligated to at least TRY to make the ending good.
The idea is to avoid pitfalls that end ruining the entire legacy of any manga, anime or fictional show
JJK was ruined the minute Gege forced a tournament arc, this series didn't need it at all and he cornered the story even more by having Sukuna and Gojo be OP
I agree
I remember reading a manhwa called The Breaker. I really hate the ending when the master betrayed his apprentice trust by crippling him to not be able to practice martial arts anymore. He turned his own student that loved and trusted him from zero to hero to zero again. Imagine if All Might did that to Deku. 😢
Do you know that The Breaker has Sequels? As far as I know it's still running
I know. I'm just talking about awful endings for example in this manhwa. I don't like heroes back to zeroes endings.
What best manga, worst endings?
Fullmetal Alchemist, The Fable, Mob Psycho 100, GTO, Parasyte, Flowers Of Evil, are best manga and best endings, what you on? Thats the problem the young only reads shounend and once it ends with the power of friendship winning they trash the manga, you get what you paid for.
Wdym bro Mob Psycho had a great ending. It wasn't my taste but it still works well
Dont forget attack on titan😭
mob psycho is carried by the animation, nice try
@@JayJay-n1dattack on titan has nothing to say about good ending
@@targaryenstandernowaday when an anime has good animation people would say it is carried by animation no matter what even if mob psycho is loved for many other things
I am so sorry MHA fans, I am sorry for laughing at your ending, the one JJK Fans got is way worst💀💀💀
the jjk ending was rly bad but bro that mha ending is 2000x worse
@@iwantherblood Hell Nah, Izuku Working at a McDonald's kinda fits him anyway, BUT SUKUNA SAYING THAT IF HE HAD ANOTHER CHANCE, HE WOULD BE GOOD? OH HELL NAH
Maybe it hurt you, but you didn't understand Sukuna......
@@PicoNewgroundsZ
Jjk fans got karma
@@LittleBeanHere fr, i made fun from mha but hoooly shit we got karma
13:39 Suprisingly horikoshi adressed that he is not goona do that. in chapter 109 or like ending of s3 he adressed that ochaco is not goona confess since they needed to focus on their carrers. My oppinion horikoshi saw potential in ochacos character and didnt do another hinata situation, witch personaly i liked. Now what i also dont understand is why people think deku didnt become the greatest hero. Everyone(Iida, Ochaco, todoroki and more) became great heros because of dekus actions and showing of heroism. Making deku the greatest hero and perfectly puts in summary that being the strongest or no1 in the charts doesnt determine of being the greatest hero, its youre actions
Finally someone who understands what MHA's ending and message actually was.
@@Kyoshomi ok but the ending is still trash though, you can do all the mental gymnastics you want but this is not an ending worth 10 years in the making.
@@LEYTHLEGACY There is no mental gymnastics to it. It was said many times that it isn't about one hero, it's about everyone working together. Everyone knows what Midoriya did, he has a legacy. People complain about him being a teacher, but no one bats an eye when All Might stays a teacher. His friends spent so much time working to make money in order to fund his suit, they never stopped talking. There were 7 chapters of the epilogue, but everyone is only focused on the time skip. So much was explained and showed, but because ships weren't shown and he loses his powers, everyone thinks it's trash. You don't understand Midoriya's character, and he isn't complicated at all. He tells you how he feels. Just because what you wanted didn't happen doesn't make it a trash ending.
@@Kyoshomi Im going to admit something. I think i would had liked to see in the ending a bit more of the time skip for the supporting cast. The whole deal of the pairs is a can of worms that i feel would be dangerous. It felt anticlimatic in some ways but i cant say it was terrible either
atleast MHA's ending did something special, even though many people find it frustrating i think its a very intresting artistic choice and a very unique ending.
jjk's ending just felt bad, the mahtio & sukuna scene was perfect but i think the vast majority of the chapter being literal filler isnt a good way to end any story.
Bro had this one prepared 😭😭
I think there's a couple of other major factors too. Usually by the end of one of these serializations, the mangaka is worn out and ready to be done, so when they see the end in sight, they get tunnel vision on ending it so they can stop drawing for a while.
The other thing is a seeming lack of understanding about the difference between a climax and a conclusion. One major theme for these manga are the battles themselves and the conflict with the villains. So once the big bad is defeated, they feel like there's no more story to write since there's no conflict. Novels understand this better though. A classic example is Lord of the Rings. They don't just have one little scene after the ring is destroyed (spoilers lol), there are about five different epilogues tying up loose ends and answering questions.
I don’t know, I thought Houseki no Kuni and Beastars had great endings. Also, as someone who also reads American comic books this tends to be an issue there as well. The Walking Dead’s original comic ending was very controversial and hated. The Boys’ comic ended was also kind of hated too. So I guess it’s a case of popular series in general?
I didn't hate it, didn't love it.
Was just pretty underwhelming
Mhm mix feelings in my side. I did like Sukuna closure and Yuuji maturing but das it... the other stuff tho...
Yeah it's weird when a series comes to an end a lot of the fan base trash is the ending until years later when a new popular manga comes out they decide to change up the rhetoric and just say it was so great even though when it first ended for the series so many people of the fandom trash that ending. Their opinion change out of nowhere like the first reaction to the ending of a series is full-blown trash it.
I don't get that type of mindset about ending now there's some endings to certain manga that I personally don't like but there's so many things that weren't bad from other series like like the video said like Naruto bleach what they ended I was pretty much satisfied I know the fan base for those particular ones I said they changed the whole conversation about those endings.
I don't get it I really don't get it it's very weird to me
Same. I think people just like hating. They do this for every series. JJK, MHA ans AOT's endings were flawed, but not trash, they were ok at worst and actually had some very good points. And then there's people who talk like they didn't even read the manga.
Eren's sudden transformation into an edgelord who wants genocide never made any sense. When he talked with Armin for the last time, it all made sense. He was just acting like that to be the world's villain so Paradise could defeat him and be the heroes so that the world would stop trying to kill them, it was the only way he saw with the founding titan's power that would allow his friends to have peace. everyone who says that Eren should have gone full 100% are just sick on th head.
And for the love of god, the merger was never going to happen. it was just the consequence if they didn't win the battle against Sukuna. It wasn't a build up for a next antagonist, it was just there to give the final battle stakes. It wouldn't have even made sense. In order for the merger to happen, every player would have had to die, it could only happen if everyone died. Even if the merger could have happened without everyone dying and the good guys fought it, it would have been so ass. You can not have a mindless monster as the final antagonist of the series after fighting Ryomen Sukuna, one of the best antagonists we've had in modern manga, who has been built up since chapter 1. It would just be another Kaguya situation. So people whinning about the merger just pisses me off
@@facundosilveira5535totally agree about the merger, it definitely would’ve been another kaguya.
@@facundosilveira5535 about your aot comment even if he wanted to do an erens acting, actually show it imo. we had no erens pov, and are we supposed to believe that he was lying in his monologues etc. aot had a bad ending for many reasons, but it can also be liked for some reasons. depends what u wanted out of it. but the writing got a lot worse in the end and that is not subjective
@@facundosilveira5535 also another thing to add to your comment about how it should have ended. you are missing a very clear point. isayama was the one who made the world, and underveloped the world building that every country was comically evil and were stated to treat eldians worse than how marleyans who tortured children mind you hated them. so only options for eren and paradis was peace before rumbling enacted or 100% rumbling. its not the fans who wanted him to , it was isayama who poorly built the world that, it was the only possible way. the ending is even more unrealistic and bs for a lot of reasons, and dont even get me started about the eren misaka and ymir thing. Isayama is terrible at writing what he perceives as romance imo. say what u will. but people hating it is very valid.
@@Sntra101 eh, i don't think it is unrealistic for the other countries to be evil or cruel to the eldians. I think it is realistic to a certain point, people in the real world are easy to manipulate into hating each other, nobody is immune to propaganda. Hell, most people don't even need manipulation. Humans are naturally afraid of anything that is different, and that fear grows to hatred.
While a pov of Eren showing that it was all an act would have helped understand why he was doing things, i thing it would have taken away from the twist at the end, which i think it's what Isayama was going for.
I 100% agree with you on this thou, the AOT romance is trash. Mikasa kissing Eren's decapitated head was just weird and creepy, i don't know what he was cooking with that. Even outside of that moment, almost all of Mikasa's characterization is just being obsessed with Eren, i would swear that most of her lines are "Eren". I never really liked here because of that, girl had next no personality. I think they tried to aknowledge that at some point as a character flaw but still, all i got from her was "annoying yandere"
jjk has always been mid with highs of good story telling like Hidden Inventory. It's always been a series about the next fight and nothing else mattered as much. So many intresting ideas in the lore such as the higher ups or the three clans was never explored with any depth and over half the cast is either wasted or just killed off. People just really like Gojo, I mean in the most recent pouplarity poll he had over HALF the votes. Out of 200,000 he had 100,000, it's carzy. So people are just mad Gojo isn't back, if he was they would've liked it more. I'm not trying to hate on jjk to much, but Hidden Inventory and the whole Junpei arc were the best in the series, everything after that was just action and half baked characters since all the good ones were either killed or forgotten about.
Pretty much this,people are trashing jjk right now but the series always had those issues,they overhype shibuya even though many of jjk problems got worse in that arc(too many fights that have underdeveloped characters,almost no character development and wasted potential from nobara to Toji and many other characters).
@@drag0ngam31ng6 if it has highs of good story telling then doesn't that make it good except for the ending and how is having constant action in a battle Shonen a negative
@@isidorodaviddoro1920 But weren't the fights considered good in Shibuya and how were characters underdeveloped in Shibuya if we have clear understanding of what most characters goals are
@@jaystargamelover8785 I don’t understand the first half of your question. As for having action, in jjk it’s just boring fighting. The best battle shonen mix story and character into their action and why battle shonen is so popular because it offers a unique pacing and visual spectacle. Jjk is just like slapping action figures together.
@@drag0ngam31ng6 Then maybe that's why people like JJK you can literally apply slapping action to any Shonen
Where are you getting this information from? Oda hasn't ever said he's been forced to continue to write one piece. Instead Oda always says he came up with an idea and so the story had to be extended. Even with the point you bought Oda has talked about it never did he say he was told to add it or force in any way to extend his story. He chooses himself to extend his story. Your spreading misinformation.
JJK made me like MHA 30% more and Naruto and Bleach endings 100x.
how did bleach end like
@@IrumaA-y8j Very rushed,a lot of the fights felt incomplete,you could see that the author was suffering a lot and just wanting to finish,the final fight was very disapointing but at least he show the world move forward a decade later and let a boruto sequel bait in place while it was kinda bad the artwork was still amazing and the character designs were still on point.
Gege took inspirations from BLEACH a bit "too much" I believe -.-
Can you make another video on fire force? Talk about anything tbf I’d enjoy it
Would have been cooler if Gojo was the only survivor in the end and just have to rebuild everything from scratch, being the most powerful human in the world doesen't mean crap if you have no one to fight.
This is a terrible take
Spanish DBZ fanfic ass
Absolutely terrible idea
@@TheRockerX nah, it fits well a world full of broken characters, instead of the world goes on type of ending.
Naah I would have Sukuna win and start a part two story with old man Yuji.. ( like old man Logan story)
Manga that has End Well:
Fullmetal Alchemist,
Silver Spoon,
Mob Psycho 100,
Soul Eater
Fire Force,
Gin tama,
GTO,
Medaka Box,
Demon Slayer,
Jigokuraku,
Dr. Stone!
On the note of One Piece:
One Piece was actually planned to end after Luffy defeated the 4 emperors and Crocodile as the final villian, it wasn't until Oda (on a whim mind you) introduced the Seven Warlords of the Sea in the East Blue Saga and (again on a whim) the Eleven Supernovas in the Sabaody Archipelogo arc. Oda's own editor have to convince him to condense major arcs, such as how Sanji's Germa storyline originally separate from Big Mom's Whole Cake Island Arc, prior to editors persuading Oda to streamline the story by merging the plot together.
DANG! 0:21 sukana got a BIG ASS neck.
honestly i think it really boils down to the weekly shonen format being utterly unsustainable in the long term. no matter how good an author is, they're bound to burn out, suffer health problems, mental problems, all while the magazine's priority is to keep popular series' running for as long as possible.
of course series do suffer from their own individual problems, and i feel like jjk had a big priority shift where starting with the culling games, it lost a lot of interest in its cast. there would be occasional moments of characters working through their emotions, but largely it treated them mainly as spectacle for action. which i suppose is fine in theory for an action series, but after so many fans grew attached to the series because of the characters and looking forward to seeing where their arcs would go, it really does suck that most of them didnt really go anywhere or didnt get enough attention to develop.
gojo being unsealed from the box is a really good encapsulation of this. he's psychologically the same and shows little emotion at learning one of his students is nearly dead and the other, his own adopted ward, is taken over, brushing it off with a joke about how he'll be fine punching his face in, then fights sukuna for several months real time and dies. while we do get a nice send off with him reuniting with people important to him, it really does feel like the manga just does not care about the relationships and emotions of these characters anymore, and its a big let down for many because thats WHY they liked the series.
Til this day I don’t get how do u build up madara the whole series to just cast him aside for a space alien, terrible plot twist.
Eventhough you said fire force ending is considered as good. But for me, the last arc kinda convoluted at first before coming to the conclusion. So much yapping which make readers lost interest. Clearly tying the 2 stories is the safest way for Ohkubo, rather than going for stand alone series
I could understand this tbh, personally fire force is one of my favorite manga with a really good ending, but I understand how confusing it gets especially with things like PI, how the first soul resonance happens, how adolla is manipulated, etc, but it is things you have to really pay attention to, to understand.
what do you think about the endings of hiro mashima stories ?
Rave Master's is good! Fairy Tail's is decent but far from perfect. Edens Zero's is alright but had a lot more potential.
@@ShonenOuji Eden Zero's is garbage
The thing is half of these are shonen manga and shonen manga just have a Disney ahh ending (where mc lives happy) cuz shonen jump mostly forces it
Just finished the last chapter this was really fucking sad.
Plotholes
Rushed Fr
Geto/takaba chilling in a cafeteria??
Kenjaku lore
Hakari vs sukunas assistance (it just ended with oh well Sukuna died GG) literally watched jjk because of hakari NOTHING
i only enjoyed the fights but thank god after 250 I wasn’t interested anymore because of sukuna gettin black flashes and binding vows
6/10
Spoilers for Tokyo Revengers.
The problem with Tokyo Revengers wasn't that there was another arc. The final arc was clearly intended to exist before and wasn't just written because the manga was popular. The actual problem with the final arc is that it kinda ended out of nowhere AND we got a Disney ass ending where everyone's lives were spared and everything ended happily ever after. Even some of the most vile people in the series (Like Kisaki and South) were redeemed.
Tokyo Revengers is 278 chapters long, and for like 270 of those chapters its a good manga. It just needed another 10-15 chapters to explain some things better, and to instead have a more bittersweet ending where some characters are dead, but the goal of the protagonist is still met.
TR was my first manga, and it makes me sad that it had such a crappy, rushed ending. I heard that Ken Wakui was forced by Kodansha to wrap everything up, which would make sense I guess because he is now working under Shonen Jump writing his new manga, Astro Royale (Which I've heard mixed things about, but haven't read it myself)
1:00 Might be a Hot Take, but I don't think the MHA ending is as awful as people make it out to be, especially compared to JJK's conclusion.
Is it a perfect ending? Not really, I wish Horikoshi did some things differently but it's not terrible. It's just an ok ending.
You got the One Piece situation all backwards. The story blew up because Oda himself watned to draw more. Editors actually try to trim it where they can. Punk Hazard was supposed to be two arcs, one set in a fire island and the other on an ice island, but the editor convinced Oda to smash them together and make it into a single islansd that's split into a fire and ice half. The Tontatta tribe was supposed to be an arc too, until the editors suggested Oda make it a part of Dressrosa.
Oda has previously attributed the extended length to a couple of factors. One of them is that he wants to draw more and gets carried away. Another is that his characters start acting on their own and take detours from the main storyline. Lastly Oda's stated one of the bigger reasons he's so much past his initial plan is that he realized that the side characters need motivations to join the crew or support Luffy, which can be seen in how much attention and screentime starts to be given to each subsequent crew member. With Zoro it was a matter of reaching an agreement, meanwhile for Franky, Brook etc. we got multi chapter flashbacks, several fights and a strong presence ove r the course of two arcs.
While i dont like fan service in stories and endings that dont fit the overall themes of main stories, I do think that if an author doesnt have a clear idea of how to finish a series, it never hurts to let themselves be somewhat guided by fan input. I’m not saying gege should have brought everyone back to life and had them all have a dance party at the end, but by the last few chapters you could really feel that Gege did not want to write the story anymore. It felt like he kept throwing ideas and lore at the wall trying to bide time until the 5 chapter limit was up. I really dont think it would have hurt the ending to adjust it with fan expectations in mind. I feel as if many authors get caught up in the pride of wanting to subvert expectations at the expense of writing a solid piece of entertainment. Had Gege wrapped up or answered some long term lore and character questions in the last 5 chapters, i believe this ending would have much better reception. Instead we wasted a whole chapter on explaining simple domain, recapping the fight we spent more than a year reading, and a new random mission for the main trio. I wouldnt be surprised if Gege did this things specifically to spite what fans wanted out of the ending. Either way, an ending like this will be the ending of jjk FOREVER, and we all agree it could have been handled better.
Tr final arc was never the problem .i remember that story was at its peak in that arc . everyone were talking about it . The problem with that manga was the ending . The last two chapters if I'm being specific .
It was literally like someone kidnapped the author in the middle of the climax and now some random ppl have to finish everything in 2 chapters.
Kaguya ISN’T the ending of Naruto tho
You're missing the point. Kaguya is the reason why the ending ended the way it did.
@@wolvekrome2475 the final was Naruto vs sasuke and Sasuke’s goals were already set before kaguya showed up. The Last also takes place before chapter 700 so again….Kaguya was NOT the ending of the series
@@Carlisle-mn3fv I agree lol. Kaguya was the final arc ending but the series ending was Naruto vs Sasuke which I personally liked. I think that's why even though pple hate on Naruto it's still acknowledged as overall good.
kaguya was the final climax and build up it was an ass pull of all ass pulls and led to naruto feeling underwhelming and shit, the naruto vs sasuke fight was just an epilogue fight
This is the worst Shonen ending of all time😂😂
Jjk being the worst is an overstatement, but i agree jjk isnt really that good people talk to
AOT still clears
@@booker-d123🤖
@booker-d123 At least AOT told a complete story, people were just unsatisfied with the result. JJK on the other hand had a satisfactory result with incomplete plot points and character journeys.
Maybe it's not a great manga
Bleach at least is heaving a second chance with the anime corrections and addictions on TYBW
If murder wasn't a crime, gege would have been dead from making such ending.
8:55 i like the video but aots ending was god awful, it wasnt even about him being edgy or not, its that the ending had so much not explained and stuff that contradicted existing information or plot points set up but not paid off
Not to mention how they butchered Ymir
On paper this ending at first seemed terrible and in so many ways it is regarding the speed in which it moved. BUT, if you really think about what it means symbolically, and what these last few chapters have been trying to convey the ending is honestly better than you think.
I was upset about a few things after leaks, especially with no mention of who that geto look alike was but then again the story has been trying to tell us it doesn’t matter. The ending to me is simply trying to convey that these characters have the strength to chose there own path, regardless of where the story took them, in the end they all got a chance to chose where they want to go.
Sukunas path to me was especially interesting to me as on paper he should never have any doubt in his beliefs, but then again his beliefs on talent, strength, and love have been shattered multiple times in his fight against the sorcerers. He was so arrogant to these concepts and because of his own pride and selfishness he automatically assumed he understood what these concepts meant. But true talent isn’t just being born with talent because there are those who’s potential can out shine there’s. True strength isn’t just being born with strength, the strength to forgive and face one’s self is also strength. And true love isn’t just as plain as to say you love someone, as seen by yuji love can be shown through empathy and guidance.
All this to say jjk ending to me on a symbolic note was great. The problems are still there ofc w the crazy pacing but I can still say gege wrapped up the theme of jjk in a great way
Only the sukuna parts is good, nothing else outside it
Copium
because they're under shonen jump
i don't think this a general trend most Shonen manga as alot of them to have good endings Katekyo hitman reborn , Beelzebub , Gintama , Toriko , Yu Yu Hakusho , and Assassination Classroom , and Fullmetal Achiemist
The trend is only for what this guy considers “great” manga. And after watching the whole video I get the feeling he hasn’t read anything outside of popular new gen manga. For example he clearly had no idea what he was talking about when he brought up one piece. And even his talks of bleach and naruto’s ending sounded like he was just reading the sentiments he found online about them instead of his own personal feelings about them.
@@davidrojas8210 Shounen Ouji a parrot
Didn't Togashi straight up give up on Yu Yu Hakusho because of his health issues? Fans have been complaining about how rushed the ending was for like a decade.
@@TheRockerX actually he gave up on it because he grew bored of it. He didn’t like the direction the story went in so he ended it.
"People think the manga ending is bad because they can't read the manga or watch anime carefully"
:- me (wise man)
Re-read the manga NOW!
Watch how one piece ends and there will be no "it fell off"😢
I doubt one piece will have a bad ending due to it being the only relevant popular shounen around,also because Oda is passionate about the ending and the final war arc for one piece
I personally see one piece continuing for 5+ years if not more
don't expect too much
@@silongbalay820ain’t even glazing but yk it’s gonna be peak when we have like 20+ major players and we don’t even know like 40% of one piece’s world history and with the success of one piece’s franchise we could see it being milked like db
Well, keep your hopes in check cause it will ruin you. I love one piece, but I want to keep it in check.
I don't think it's ending will end up all that good tbh, it'll most likely be decent at best. I might be proven wrong though
Edens zero had a terrible last arc
I like that arc more than most people, but I still agree that it was less than I was hoping for.
@@ShonenOuji terrible is an understatement. Mashima fumbled really hard.
Really?omg i don't know what is wrong with mangaka and their bad endings
Bleach’s ending was rushed though. Kubo even admitted that.
He was sick and Shonen executives gave him a limited amount of time to finish the series cause the sales were dropping.
Dragon Ball ending was perfect. I know, unfortunately, Super exists, but the manga still ended in 1995 and didn't come back for 20 years.
Both Super and GT ruined what could've been a perfect shonen ending
I agree that they're bad, but I don't think they've ruined anything, since you can still read the manga/watch the anime and the ending is still there. Also, GT at least is pretty fun to me, knowing that it's not canon
@@kermitwithamustache3885
Shit taste
6:25 whoa, that was a lot of misinformation. Oda had the idea of the Four Emperors long before he thought of the Seven Warlords (not the other way around like you suggested). In fact, he's stated that creating the Warlord system is what caused the story to accidentally grow so large in scale. He never received any pressure from editors to artificially extend One Piece at the five-year mark
Grand Line Review even has an entire video explaining it called "This Is Why One Piece Is So Long"
The thing about jjk is that the ending wasn’t terrible its just that the world building in jjk had so much potential and creativity to just end as a typical character wakes up at the final moment for mc to get a opening to win.
I would also like to add that this already happened in shibuya with yuji and todo feels kinda copy and paste to me just my opinion tho
People love to blame "your expectations" alot of the time for any issue when alot of the time. While granted their is a lot of shitty head cannon offten these expectations are set up buy the author.
Sticking with the jjk example people were very quick too throw hakari under the bus to defend the jjk ending since he had not yet been super relevant too the plot. But this ignores the fact (partially because people have brain rotted themselves with agenda) that Gege hyped him up as being comparable to the previous mc for the entire story, potential to surpass gojo, the best domain feats at the time that werent sukuna, and beating the previous strongest of an era. These are all thing gege hyped the readers up with its the same principle of chekovs gun.
But people love to shift all that blame too the readers when ever it comes time to defend. Imo once an author introduces a story element/character they are obligated to give it some sort of conclusion. Dont introudce 20 characters with long really cool emotional fight in some big tournament arc if they arent going to actually be utilized(naruto for example). If you only want to actually focus on a small cast of characters take lessons from csm part 1 (part 2 might be fine too idk i havnt read it). Thiers a reason you dont see people complaining about the side cast performance in it despite them being significantly less screen time and its because he knew not to treat them like a way bigger deal than they actually were.
Idk, I thought the ending was fine. Everytime I read what "fans" think would make a better ending, it sounds like fanfiction garbage. Gojo coming back out of nowhere, the merger wiping out humanity and Yuji being the sole survivor, Sukuna winning the final battle. Just truly garbage tier ideas that don't really make sense given the context of the story.
I'll give my two cents - the final chapter was phenomenal, the ending wasn't
What would you say helps the final chapter stand out from the ending overall?
@@ShonenOuji this last chapter in my opinion was what the last 3 should've been, most people can forgive incomplete plot lines or unresolved themes, not to say they should be ignored by the writter since they have investment too, but yeah, most people will forgive it to some extent atleast it they get emotional payoff from the characters, which this chapter gives, atleast to me, the Sukuna part genuinely hit and the Gojo part broke my heart, the last 2 chapters made me feel next to nothing, because I didn't care about so many of the characters like the sugar guy or Charles the manga guy, but regardless, I can say that JJK atleast left on a high note, I hope Gege does even better on whatever he's doing next
I agree, the chapter itself wasn't really bad, but the chapters before this opened up more questions instead of answering some loose ends like what an ending should actually do.
I kind of liked the Sukuna part of the chapter but Gege didn’t set it up well enough. It’s weird just to see him switch up like that. I would’ve liked to see him act like he doesn’t care with his bored face but still chooses to become anew. Not having a Sukuna Heian era flashback took away from that ending.
The Sukuna backstory should’ve been fleshed out before Yuji’s Domain or it should’ve hinted at why Sukuna truly didn’t like Yuji.
Besides that, the ending was relatively trash. After 266 it became horrible. At least it wasn’t like Naruto where once the war arc began it became a shit show.
Woah buddy I think you made quite the odd conclusion there about one piece. First off the editors had nothing to do with Oda extending the length of one piece, that was his own choice. And also he was originally planning on having luffy beat the 4 emperors not the 7 warlords. He created the warlords system at the last minute when he introduced mihawk and that choice of his was what extended one piece. And the only reason there was 7 was just because he thought that number 7 sounded the coolest. Oda’s editors barely have a say in anything.
That why full metal will always be the best. It managed to create a satisfactory ending
Mob psycho > fma
@@guesta9822 gotta lay off the drugs
@@blackvalio4060 not on drugs 😁
My two favorite Manga of all time are jjk and Naruto both are awesome works and have such awful endings and I still love both and for ever will hype the highs it's just sad how those stories ended 😢
Id say manga is getting worse cuz the big 3 was good for a long duration of time then the new shit that’s comin out now be flopping half way threw the story
MHA’s ending was…just okay. I guess it stayed in line with its themes and did the bare minimum of what an ending is supposed to do, but it was just so unsatisfying given everything we’ve seen on Deku’s journey
As for JJK’s ending, I haven’t caught up on the manga, but the fact that I haven’t seen not a single person defend JJK’s ending is very telling 😭. Because I saw people defending MHA’s, AOT’s, Tokyo Revengers’s, Naruto’s, Bleach’s endings, etc, but for JJK? Crickets😭
It's still fresh for jjk. You will see there will be People who also like this ending.
As a jjk fan, if we look at an objective standpoint the ending wasn't terrible. It was just an average ok ending. But jjk have a lot of haters so because the ending is objectively not good enough they will trash the manga.
People are already defending it once they got the context lol.
@@donrog5035 Mainly when the ending will be animated, it will be like AOT, most people will actually love it
@@MrMetaVal Maybe.
gege just rushed out of writing jjk, theres no relationships at all, and no further explanation
Bruh I dont know how all of you Gege glazers actually saying this ending is "OK" WHEN WE DIDN'T EVEN :
1. NOT GETTING YUJI'S DOMAIN EXPLANATION. That's like not knowing anything about ichigos bankai or Deku's quirk. !
2. How the fuck does sukuna have 4 arms and whats the deal with his body and those mouths ??!!
3. The whole gojo thing felt like an ass pull, Like I get not having huge funeral but not even going to his grave !!.
4. Sukuna conclution in one page !! while we get like half a chapter of shadow style BS !!
5. Was it kenjaku with takaba !!??
6. Is the culling game over or not ??
7. What about the eradication of one ENTIRE MAJOR CLAN ??
8. What about the barriers [how long will the remains keep them up]
9. What about the entire world knowing about cursed energy
GEGE SAID FUCK THAT I want to write what miva and the npc character's feeling about this, and write about shadow style.
"U can do as many stunts in the air as u like but it wont matter if you dont stick the landing". jjk just dropped from a solid 8 to a solid 5 IMO
2- Sukuna absorved his twin in the womb, that's where his two sets of everything come from.
Yea JJK was really just mid at best. The power system tried to do way too much, shit got hella wordy and really just uninteresting. Too many things were stated in retrospect, and just felt like ass pulls.
Best Manga and bro is talking about JJK which is like a 6/10 at best
There's alot of manga that end with a satisfying conclusion,not jjk
trust in my glorious king Fujimoto part 2 will have a good ending
In short the authors get rushed and overwhelmed so they end it on a rushed note
the image in the background is my wallpaper lmao
I recommend you people reread the manga, the message is there.
rurouni kenshin the original run has one of the best endings!
Couldn’t be fullmetal just saying
We need to hope that at least One Piece will have great ending.
Woaaahhh jjk sneak in the great manga section?? 💔
Can’t wait for One Piece trash ending :D
As a One piece, I can't argue with that...... "Save the Shounen, Oda"
I'll be there to shit on it 🤝
Oda already has the ending planned out. He’s had it planned out for over a decade now, trust that oda won’t fumble the ball.
won't happen. sadly.
Oda Sensei, please don't disappoint...
i swear if oda fumbles
one piece has been running for 30 years oda is like Kentaro Miura he wants perfection in his story so he will deliver
nah naruto ending wasn't bad
the ending was pretty mid. 8/10 manga 2/10 ending
7/10 animation and fights kinda carry
how is 2/10 a mid ending? the ending was awful imo,on par with the 2003 fma ending of ruining a really good story with an ass ending
I don't remember anybody was praising Naruto and Bleach's ending. While they're a lot more forgiving to them now, they still acknowledge that the endings are super flawed. Same will be with JJK and MHA. And I feel JJK was already getting hate way before the ending was announced. People were already pointing out the failures of JJK's characters.
I feel like your observation of the reactions are quite surface level. Yes, the general complaint of these endings are the characters and rush plot. But what other criticisms can you give aside from those? Usually bad endings always boils down to those two. But the devil is always in the details. People had that exact complaints for Tokyo Revengers' ending and I don't think anybody would defend how dumb it was. Same can be said with Yuyu Hakusho's ending. Another possible usual complaints would be dragged out plot and overstaying welcome like God Of Highschool. But that issue is literally the complete extreme opposite ends of the "rush plot" complaint.
Also, I never was onboard the train of Eren should be this gigachad edgelord train and always view him to be pathetic. Still dislikes the ending of AoT. Expectations from fans is one thing, but like you said with Deku and Ochaco, expectations written and set by the author is another. Also, there's also the problematic writing with Eren in general that has nothing to do with him being a Wuss.
nah naruto ending is good it's even ranked high up there in best shonen endings
To One Piece, Jojo's, Black Clover, Loser Ranger, Kaiju No. 8, Sakamoto Days, Kagurabachi, and Dandadan Authors... Take your Time, don't go to Far, Eat Well, Sleep Well, Study Well, Plan Slow and Steady, and End your Works before the Fans, Editors, and Yourself Ruined your Works.
Well, there is a reason Araki switched from weekly to monthly chapters for Jojo lately
For me,
MHA: 8/10
JJK : 4/10
only 10 views? Damn you fell off
Only 1 ranger? Damn you fell off
people like to say that using "the mask" argument for eren disregards his character devlopment but this is not true because after eren and the survey corps return to paradis after the marley invasion, eren begins behaving this edge lord way out of nowhere. that isnt character devlopment, that's a complete character switch. him crying and breaking down completely fits his actual character. just because its cringey does not mean its bad
Eren's reasons are flimsy. He even said that he did not know why he did it (and what he does say, he gaslights armin regarding the book). It fails to convince me that a person that would go on to kill 80% of humanity doesn't have a solid reason for it. Bro is a bonafide school shooter.
Naruto ending was never bad, the kaugya thing was the biggest complaint. But the actual ending of naruto vs sasuke was actually fine. Naruto becoming hokage was great.
nah it’s horrid
a pretty good answer to this question. and having these last two videos back to back show to you have your planning figured out cause as a fan I was not expecting that 😁.
Anyway guess I'll expand on the series mentioned in this list. No disagreements on FF and I still haven't picked up on Gintama yet but based on what I've heard that sounds right. (Probably never reading TR but also sounds right from what I've heard). AoT really was one super controversial ending & I think a lot of people forget the controversies of the Big 3 endings. Though I will say in the case of AoT, one of the refreshing aspects looking back is I felt a lot of people disavowed the series if they hated the ending and as big fan of the series, it was nice to have people making less noise about my series. Cause at it's popularity, the fandom was quite a cesspool. As for the series that just ended, again I feel your general answer is on point. MHA felt lackluster while JJK made some weird choices near the very end. Personally as MHA was wrapping up I just wanted it to be over as I already wasn't a fan of the trajectory of things, but JJK on the other hand kept me guessing till the very end. For that reason I think JJK has the better ending. However I will say that MHA had a more definitive end with less left over. Though both did have big things left over: the merger for JJK & the quirk singularity for MHA. Now I'd like to bring some comparison points.
Now I understand you only have some much time per video but there were a couple series I'm surprised didn't get brought up. Big one being Demon Slayer. Another series that ended with a whimper. While ending was definitive like MHA, it also picked the strangest way to end the series like JJK. Considering how close to the end the series was when the anime blew up, likely also affected by popularity. Mashle almost certainly was as well since iirc the mangaka said the series was ending soon but then had to take it back. The bigger series I was expecting you to mention this video was Dr Stone and Edens Zero. Cause they both are good examples of planned endings & they're major series you've covered on the channel. The former was slightly hampered by fan expectation, but outside of Ginatama & Haikyuu, was one of the better shonen jump series endings. Edens Zero on the other hand felt like a long drawn out conclusion with the final arc and major exposition dumping near the ending. Dr Stone had the advantage of a follow up on it's final plot hooks. However I don't think any of these series were quite as vocal about their endings as those listed in the video (except maybe Demon Slayer). Maybe be due to popularity due to the their respective anime adaptations.
Last big point I wanted to bring up was anime. Because as you mentioned Bleach is now more enjoyed because of the TYBW arc anime. MHA controversy aside, I've heard people watching the anime are enjoying it. Maybe the spectacle of the anime will help people remember the series fondly. Similar thing may happen for Demon Slayer. However going back to Bleach, this maybe a chance for JJK to have some corrections made before it finishes adapting the series. Seems unlikely for Dr Stone with only one more season left. EZ at most could maybe fix pacing issues. It may not be possible for all series, but I think that while anime only endings have ruined some adpation in the past, in the future maybe it'll be their salvation.
tl;dr I can agree with most of what was said in the video. While I like JJK & it's ending a bit more, MHA did an ok job at making a conclusive finale. Though both had major unresolved things. I had expected a few more examples of popular series endings, including planned ones like Dr Stone & EZ along with unplanned ones like Mashle & possibly Demon Slayer. But my big thing is that I hope many more series get their TYBW anime redemptions.
Demon Slayer's ending isn't unplanned wtf. DS is already one of the most planned out series and that goes double for its ending, which was built up to incredibly well. It was the perfect ending that wrapped everything up super well, no loose ends, all arcs and themes resolved wonderfully. It isn't really strange that it ended when it did. Yeah, it could have been milked for years and years, but Shonen Jump seem comfortable to let authors end their manga naturally nowadays when it is their time, so it's great that newer authors are doing just that instead of dragging it out for 1000 chapters.
Thanks man! Honestly so happy to see you enjoying these videos as much as you have. And yeah it just came down to a time thing. Dr. STONE I didn't mention just because it would have been more examples of what I was basically saying already. I also would loved to have talked about Dragon Quest, but just not enough time.
@@natalimoina hey I'm glad you liked it. For me the Muzan fight kinda dragged and the very last bits of the series where we saw the far future felt uneeded. My speculation is these issues came by prolonging the very last part of the series just because of how huge the anime was. But it seems you're a hardcore DS fan and I will admit that most of it felt well planned out. So I'm happy to give you the benefit of the doubt that despite my own grievances with the series that it was still planned to always be like this
@@partyjams yeah bro you didn't cook on that one. The theme of demon slayer was always sacrificing the now for the benefit of the people you might not even get to see. So the future being bright but with the story of the demon slayers being relegated to being just an urban legend is such a poignant but fitting ending.
Sukuna winning would be a better ending honestly
Would go against everything the series built up to. The ending would’ve been good if the execution wasn’t rushed.
Bro you’re overgrazing the hell out of jjk with that title. One of the best manga? 😂 I’m sorry but it’s really not. It having a bad ending was predictable off rip and only kept going on a downward trajectory till that point. Characters like gojo and nobara were a clear sign that gege messed up very early on. In a battle oriented story you should never have side characters with abilities that can easily kill the final opponent. It’s a bad writing choice that can and will destroy your narrative. And obviously making the final opponent overly powerful and unbeatable to your protagonist is also an extremely bad choice. It’s also never a good idea to have your protagonist remain weaker than literally every other cast member all the way up till the final battle’s final moments. I hope gege learned from his mistake and that whatever he does next he will use his newfound experience to avoid creating another gojo situation.
“Why Great Manga have Terrible Endings”
Are we reading the same title?
@@thanurs jjk is not a great manga. It’s a barely average manga.
@@davidrojas8210 I’m telling you that what you said was the title and what the title actually is are 2 completely different things, I didn’t say a thing about the manga
@@thanurs i think you're missing my point by like a country mile. i know what the title says and i'm talking about what the title implies. the title implies that jjk is a great manga with a terrible ending and i'm saying that jjk is an average manga at best with a terrible ending. a very predictable average manga with an easily predictable terrible ending. i don't know why you're struggling to understand that.
@@davidrojas8210 No, I completely understand your point, I’m not struggling to comprehend your opinion at all 🤷♂️
Im just struggling to understand how you wrote the comment basing it on a statement the creator of the video didn’t make… I don’t think you understand that I’m not at all talking about your opinion, but the wording of your comment
But now it seems like you’re understanding that he said it was a great manga and not “one of the best”
Let me just say though that saying jjk is a “great manga” doesn’t necessarily imply the person who said that thinks it’s one of the best. He could’ve been referring to its success over the past few years.
Y'all should've expected the quality of the ending when chapter 269 happened💀💀💀